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3 Guys Before The Game - Blacked Out (Episode 511) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  If we were following the theme of the title of the show, we'd be
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  all wearing black. Three guys before the game title blacked out. Episode number
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  They presented him with the ball before the game. You know the ceremony
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  thing. Oh yeah. He didn't dribble it, did he? He didn't?
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  right, let's jump in about a dozen hours. Removed or so from West
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  Virginia's date against the Pitt Panthers the Backyard Brawl, episode one ninety of that
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  series, which began in nineteen hot six. Well continuing theme for the old
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  Golden Blue. Uh, if we just scored games and said win lose at
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  halftime, West Virginia would be right there. But they play the full forty
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  minutes and again the Mountaineers run out of juice. Pitt never got cold the
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  entire night. You looked at the numbers after the first half and you said,
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  you know, chances are they're not going to shoot like that again from
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  three Noah. The three was the storyline. We broke that down for you
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  earlier this week with the Senator and spreads on stats. They were a rim
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  three point team. They don't do anything in the middle. They let those
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  threes blow away and they set They equalled the most ever by an opposing team
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  against WVU with sixteen, and individually, Henson equals the record by most by
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  an opposing player. He had nine threes Previously. Tamar Slay from Marshall did
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  it and CJ. Massenberg did it five years ago when he played for a
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  really good Buffalo team. Coach by Nate Oates, who's now down there at
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  the Universe of Alabama. They had a really good team, so hoppy,
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  el Senatore, let us begin pull it apart. Well, I'm looking forward
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  to the stats from spreads on stats. I'll just start with this. I
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  was thinking a lot about this game and about this team so far this year,
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  and one of my favorite sports books of all time is My Losing Season
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  by Pat Conroy. Right also wrote the great Santini I think right and Prince
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  of Tides, and he wrote about one of his years playing basketball at the
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  Citadel and they had a losing season. It was very traumatic, and one
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  of his quotes from that book is losing tears along the seam of your own
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  image of yourself. It's a mark of shame that causes internal injury but no
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  visible damage. I mean, that's a pretty harsh view, but it tells
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  you how competitors, and at this level, Brad, they're all competitors,
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  how difficult it is for competitors when you're losing. And they're going to be
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  a lot of law losses this year for this basketball team, and a lot
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  of it is through no folds of their own. I don't think it's not
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  like lack of effort. It's just and Tony we were talking on my coffee
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  clatch earlier today where it's as though the other guy got eight cards and you
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  got five cards and you're just short, you're shorthanded, and you know a
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  cooka cook is back, but he's going to be limited. You don't have
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  raykwon battle. Jose Perez is averaging thirteen points and five rebounds at Arizona State,
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  So so many things are stacked against you. And I would hope,
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  Brad that Mountaineer Nation would actually sort of embrace this team and say, we
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  know it's going to be long, we know it's going to be a struggle.
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  We'll be there with you. We're not going to get down on you.
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  We'll help you through this because it's going to be a slog Yeah,
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  and I think so far they have been. I thought that was a pretty
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  good crowd last night for the weeknight game, and that at first half had
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  its moments where it reminds you of how special that building can be when you're
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  in that rivalry. And I thought some of the pregame videos were were really
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  good and captured the essence of that rivalry and you broke the black uniforms back
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  out again. I thought it was really exciting there for a while. And
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  yeah, you just ran out of gas against a team that listened in pitt
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  We talked about it on Monday. They are high variants. They love to
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  shoot threes, and when you get them on a night when they're making them
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  and you can't affect change and Hinson just keeps backing up on you and making
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  shots, you're going to lose to that team. That's how they're gonna be.
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  There's gonna be some nights when they don't make their shots and you're gonna
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  have a chance to beat them. Last night was just not one of those.
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  Tony, to your point, we talked about that rim in three rate.
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  Eighty one percent of their shots last night were either at the rim or
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  from three, and most of that was from three. Western needed a pretty
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  good job of keeping them off the rim. They they made shots. They
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  made shots. It's as simple as that. I got a couple more stats
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  I'll give you here in just a minute. The other part, I'll say
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  you mentioned it. They're in a dry by. I thought that moment last
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  night when a cook a cook returned to the floor was pretty awesome. Sure,
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  that was pretty neat how that crowd reacted and seeing him be able to
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  get back out there from what you saw the last time you saw him laying
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  on that floor in his scariest situations, you can have to see him return
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  last night in that ovation he got was pretty neat. Yeah, absolutely true.
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  You know, we talk about the bench and we talk about the lack
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  of a bench and productivity for WVU. Last night, Pitts bench outscores West
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  Virginia twenty five to three, twenty five to three. You take a look
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  at the minutes from their bench and I'm just doing super math in my head
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  here, but they it's fifty one sixty. They got seventy six minutes off
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  of their bench, seventy six minutes, and West Virginia got thirty four.
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  So there you go. And then you mentioned, I mean one of the
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  best performances I've seen inside the coliseum by an opposing player in Blake Hinson.
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  I mean, the way he shot the ball was Andrew Wiggins esque, Antonio
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  Daniels esque, and he came in for bowling green in the n I T
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  game. Massenberg that I mentioned, I mean, very rarely does a guy
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  come in and just get so hot that it is Wow. That was an
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  NBA shooting performance. He took a couple with his heels on the logo there.
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  He only had what one non three at least late in the game,
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  it was one non three. What he finished he finished with They took four
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  non threes. Yeah, but how many shots did he make that were non
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  threes? One one that wasn't a three? Yeah, And that's what he
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  did was shoot threes. The other part of that for for West Virginia,
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  we talked about Pitt's rebounding ability and especially how difficult they made it on teams
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  to offensive rebound. So a couple of keys, you're gonna hear me reference
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  throughout the whole season. You want to go spreads on Stats, Not yet,
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  because I've got a whole the direction preview will be spreads on SATs.
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  Wrap up here a little bit. We put the Conley name under this,
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  or we can they can. The JV edition of Spreads on Stats is brought
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  glass that goes official. No, not official, I go aheas hard to
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  see a different different screen here, it's smaller. So if you're going to
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  struggle from the floor with which West Virginia does you know just what were they
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  three of sixteen from three point land that's three to twenty three of twenty so
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  sixteen percent, yeah, sixteen percent there. So it's that's gonna be tough.
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  You've got to find other ways to score. So one of those is
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  going to be at the free throw line. West Virginia has been top ten
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  this year in getting points at the free throw line. Well it did last
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  night as well. That worked. You were plus ten at the line,
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  you were you made sixteen of eighteen, So that part worked. The other
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  challenge was just going to be on the on the offensive glass and Pitt one
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  of the best teams in America defensive rebounding. West Virginia did not get its
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  first offensive rebound until nine minutes to go in the first half, had just
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  five for the game and only turn that into six second chance points. So
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  that's the recipe for disaster right there. You couldn't find another way to score
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  and they're making threes on you. That's very difficult. Wes Virginia was good
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  at the rim. We told you Pitt's opponents could get to the rim and
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  score seventy percent of the time they were shooting coming in. West Virginia very
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  good inside twelve of fifteen eighty percent. But it just wasn't enough because you
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  couldn't make any three point shots. So that's going to be a key moving
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  forward. Can West Virginia get offensive rebounds against teams? And can they continue
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  to get to the free throw line until somehow And maybe that's kerk criesa coming
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  back. He'll help your shooting a little bit. That gives you one more
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  shooter on the outside. But that's going to be a big challenge and struggle
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  for this team all year. This stat sheet, if you break it apart,
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  it's got a lot of things that make you go like whoa, whoa,
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  whoa, that's just aberrations. How about Pitt zero second chance points?
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  None? Now? Why none? Because they made their shots right right?
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  If you would have said that going into the game, you go like,
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  oh, no way, Yeah, they didn't have a lot of shots at
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  the rim. It was just the story for them was simply three points.
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  You give up sixteen three pointers in a game. You're probably not going to
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  win that game. Then that's just what happened. That's the easy handicap there.
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  You know what, also was a surprise just watching the game and you
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  you've already busted then, But isn't it surprising you that only four players from
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  pitt made a three point shot? You know what? Because it seemed like
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  me that they had nine guys make at least one. You had the two
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  brothers right the minutes to figure out their brothers, I'm like, why is
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  that guy's all over the place? Like, I just looked like, what's
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  that? What's that guy? He's all over the place himself? Hey man,
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  that'd be hor they'd be Jorge Diaz Graham and uh Guillermo Diaz Graham.
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  Did you have trouble with that? No, not really. I just look
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  at their number. But they're identical, one seven foot one six eleven.
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  They they're identical coming into the game, coming into the game. They each
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  had five three pointers on the season. And late in the game, the
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  brother passed it on the wing and his brother cut and I mean that it's
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  a special moment. That's a special moment. But it seemed to me like
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  they had nine different guys make threes, but they only had four. Yeah,
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  and the da his Graham brothers each hit a three pointer. Their their
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  freshman point guard. Bub Carrington's pretty good. He's got he got chance,
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  got a chance because he's one of those guys. He had a really good
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  game size and just size and controls it like he was controlling what was happening
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  as a freshman, like all decide when I'm gonna drive, when I'm gon
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  shoot, When'm gona give it to Hins, and when I'm gonna real I'll
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  handle this. I got it. He was. He was really good.
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  His dad is a AAU legend guy in the Baltimore area. He created Team
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  Mellow, Carmelo's Carmelo Anthony's team, and another Baltimore whatever deal. So he's
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  like a basketball guy. But his size. Now, I'm not saying he's
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  gonna be, but he's got Haliburton esque skills as far as that length goes,
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  and totally controls the floor. Yea freshman controls to do that. Yeah,
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  he controlled the game. I mean, freshman aren't supposed to be able
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  to come out and just run the thing. Flip back over to West Virginia
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  for a second, Quinn Sleazinski again, good scoring night for him. Jesse
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  Edwards, they did what they did. Your third or last night was Ofrey
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  and Nevey. So he showed you a couple of things. On the offensive
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  side. Has to get more comfortable pulling the trigger on a three when he
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  has it. I think that's one of the things you saw last night from
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  West Virginia. They're gonna have to let it fly. I know they're not
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  hitting threes and that starts to get in your head from a confidence standpoint,
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  but they were, especially at the end of the game, Tony passing on
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  some open threes that they just simply have to take. Seth Wilson, He's
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  got to pull the trigger. He's got to take more shots. He's a
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  guy that can make him o. Frey's got to have that confidence to be
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  able to put the three in there. Second part mentioned to Cook a cook
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  coming back in, which was really neat to be expected. His conditioning is
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  not anywhere close to where it needs to be, so he could only go
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  literally a couple minutes at a time. But you could see Tony. I
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  thought that a short burst there. Defensively, he can help this team.
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  He blocked two shots, had another one where he's in the middle of the
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  lane. Carrington drove baseline, would have normally gone up, did not opted
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  to drive under the basket pass it out because of a cook. Three pointer
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  was missed. He got the rebound and went the other way. So blocked
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  two, altered one. And how many minutes did they credit a cook with
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  four seven seven and a half? So two blocks and one for sure altering
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  of a shot and he runs the floor. You know what else he did
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  well? This surprised me for a big entry. It had a great entry
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  pass that one down on your side on the on the right wing. Got
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  it in there very effortlessly and easily. That's that's encouraging because Jesse Jesse Edwards
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  has tight windows to get it into. But there are times when he gets
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  guys on his button, his back that you have got when he shows you
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  have got to get it to him quickly to allow him some space to work.
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  I thought a cook had a nice entry pass o Freey Devey had one
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  too. The Harlem globetrotters between the legs hoppy, I've never seen that his
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  defender he threw it between his defender's legs on the bounce into Edwards. Yeah,
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  that's foreign. A lot of foreign guys like would just gone behind the
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  back between the guy's legs on an entry pass. You know, O Free
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  is feeling his way through. But I like what you see again as a
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  freshman, because he has no fear. He will stick his face in there
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  and goes hard. He goes hard. That's all you can ever ask for
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  at this point. But he's got to shoot it better. He was one
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  of five from three, finished with four rebounds. He had three assists,
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  He only had one turnover. He did block a shot, and he gave
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  you thirty five minutes. But you know, for example, Seth Wilson,
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  Seth played twenty two minutes. He has to shoot it more than three times,
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  way more. Simply, simply put way more. You got to shoot
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  it more than three times. You have to put it up to the rim.
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  That's that's your job is to shoot it up to the rim. Shoot
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  the ball. And he had some that were open looks that he's got a
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  pull on that he that he wavered for a second and then kicked it around.
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  He's got to take the If they don't go, they don't go.
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  But you have got to be able to take some shots because he's a guy.
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  We've seen this from him. He can get hot, hit three,
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  four, five in a row. Seth Wilson, You're right, cannot have
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  a game where he only gets three shots up. You know. The other
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  weird part of this whole thing is and while we say that we interrupting you
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  over there, you just why do you say my coffee clatch? You're the
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  guy who thinks coffee. This has become a coffee clatch. Well, I
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  mean usually you like, don't pour it till like one of us is talking
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  or something. You're just on your back ports. You know what I'm drinking
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  as am I game game day grind from Mountaineer Roasting. It'd be nice to
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  share. Take it. You got a cup, I got a little bit
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  left in Actually don't have a car. Why don't you mix this in there
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  with your merrilax? By the way, Resti's off topic, but Rusty is
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  making more of that as we record. Yeah, it'll sold out again,
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  second sold out? Yeah I know, I know. So yeah, it's
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  really good, really good. Anyway, I didn't mean throw your train of
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  thought off there as you're pouring your call. So here's here's a thing to
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  keep in mind. While we say shoot the ball, shoot the ball,
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  shoot the ball. If things were normal, they were, but you also
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  have to put this. They're also being told run the clock through so that
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  we don't get into a track meet. So you've got this give and take
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  of because you don't have a bench, because you can't get in up and
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  down games, you're asking guys not to play the way that they normally would
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  play. And perhaps that is why guys are not pulling the trigger when they
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  normally would, because they're trying to get the clock down to shorten the game.
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  There's, yeah, there's some of that, but you could see last
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  night was an exempt. There were there were some shots later in that game
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  when the bench was saying, guys, you gotta you gotta let that fly.
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  It's quite apparent. Yeah, and you don't know when Caresa comes back,
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  how that changes. Well, he's gonna make more. He's gonna he's
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  gonna put the ball. This is what he's going to do. He's gonna
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  put the gut ball in guy's hands and shoot ready positions. That's what he
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  can do. They're gonna be able to he will run offense, he will
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  get it to you will you pull the trigger, and then obviously we'll make
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  it. Talk to a guy who was really good today, not in basketball
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  anymore, but was a really, really good player. He said, this
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  game's really really hard. When you can't put it into the hoop, everything
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  changes. And I think it's a combination right now that these guys are struggling
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  with their confidence, yes, therefore not pulling the trigger in addition to trying
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  to run an offense that squeezes the clock down because that's not normally the way
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  that they play. So I think a couple things with the crease of one.
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  You're right on the passing, but guys are also going to have to
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  finish, because there's nothing more frustrating than when you make good pass after good
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  pass after good pass and they don't finish. Pretty soon, you're just gonna
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  say, I'm not giving it to you. I will not pass to you.
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  I'm just gonna shoot it. He'll make some threes too. We keep
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  talking about him as a pass first and distributor. He can also shoot it
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  to what six threes a game last year Arizona. So he'll shoot. Here's
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  the other part. I think that Cresa can help you in and I think
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  Josh is going to try and find this balance because he's done it in some
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  games. But you can't do it every game. You've got to find some
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  transition opportunities to steal some easy buckets, yes, because you're always better.
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  When your offense is struggling and you struggle in the half court, the one
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  thing you can do is try and beat them down the floor before they set
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  up on you. So I think when you get Crisa, who's more comfortable
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  pushing, you're going to have to find a way to steal a couple possessions
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  per game, and Josh knows that he's done that on a few occasions.
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  You've been able to get some easy transition buckets. Yeah, but last night
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  they only had four steals and Pit only had six turnovers. Six turnovers,
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  jeez, So you're not going to get those free opportunities. But you're exactly
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  Is it as bad as the uh as you'd think? What what do you
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  think he's doing? Drexel? I was gonna do Drexel. What do you
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  think I'm gonna do well. I thought we were still doing Pitt. No,
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  I think I've moved on from Pitt Solid gave you a couple numbers.
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  I think we moved By the way, you're wearing Drexel colors. Aren't you
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  wearing Mountaineer colors? Also Drexel is true? That is true. Yeah,
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  and I've got the blackout glasses ready, do it Drexel preview? Hopey.
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  Yes, here's the first thing I would say to you. Yes, don't
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  sleep on the dragons here, right, don't sleep on them. They they'll
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  burro over, They'll burn you if you sleep on the dragon. Oh,
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  I get it. Yeah, you have a couple of dad jokes here the
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  last two previous Just beat villain over, correct, just beat villanover. Had
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  a tough game against Princeton. I watched that Princeton game the other night against
• 26:30
  in Princeton. I don't sleep on Princeton. Some point down the wall,
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  see ranking is Yeah, they they ate, they're legit. They were eight
• 26:37
  in that ranking. I know that it's only in the rankings, but they've
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  got they got some guys. I was really impressed with Princeton. That's neither
• 26:41
  here nor there. Don't sleep on Drexel here, they're calling cards their defense.
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  They're thirteenth nationally right now in effective field goal percentage. They were third
• 26:51
  going into that Princeton game. So this is a really good defensive team,
• 26:53
  their top thirty and three point field goal defense getting a West Virginia team that
• 26:59
  is strug going to score, So keep an eye on that. I'll come
• 27:02
  back to it in a minute. They have a six to ten guy in
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  the middle, Amari Williams, who is their conference's preseason player of the Year.
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  So as you would expect with a big guy in the middle, especially
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  at the mid major level, teams do not shoot well at the rim against
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  them, just fifty six percent. So much like we talked about Hoppy going
• 27:18
  into Saint John's, this is a fun big guy matchup here, Amari Williams
• 27:21
  against Jesse Edwards. Inside. They play really slow as well, a controlled
• 27:26
  pace for them that theoretically helps West Virginia, but the challenge with that is
• 27:32
  going to be limited possessions, which forces you offensively to be more efficient.
• 27:37
  We know that's part of where West Virginia struggled this year. So what do
• 27:40
  you go back to? What have we talked about? If you're West Virginia.
• 27:42
  You got to find a way to get to the line against this Drexel
• 27:45
  team. They don't give up a ton of fouls, but you got to
• 27:48
  get there against the line and score, and you got to find a way
• 27:51
  to get on the offensive glass. So the Dragons are a little better than
• 27:55
  the national average when it comes to their opponents getting to the lines. WV.
• 28:00
  You recently played Saint John's and pitt Those were two teams that didn't put
• 28:03
  teams on the line a lot, and West Virginia found a way to get
• 28:07
  there. So that's what you've got to do again. And that's really going
• 28:08
  to come from two areas. It's going to be Edwards and it's going to
• 28:11
  be Slazynski drawing contact. Both of those two players, Edwards and Quinn are
• 28:18
  top ten percent nationally in fouls drawn on two point attempts. So those are
• 28:22
  the guys you want foul Do you want them to get to the line they're
• 28:25
  shooting the free throws. Well, that's got to be a big part of
• 28:27
  this game plan for West Virginia in an area to score points. The other
• 28:32
  area where West Rgians to get on is the offensive glasses. We talked about
• 28:34
  Drexel's been very good at keeping teams off of the glass. Top fifty percent
• 28:38
  nationally in defensive rebounding are the Dragons. They're a real veteran team too.
• 28:45
  That I mean, it's going to be a really good team. I mean
• 28:47
  Zach Spiker, their coach, Morgantown native, is a friend of ours.
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  So I realize at times we can be a little biased. I'm not in
• 28:52
  this case. They're really well coached, know what they need to do to
• 28:55
  win. Veteran guys have confidence because they just beat Villanova. This is a
• 29:00
  team that's going to come in here and not say, oh, we're happy
• 29:02
  to be playing a power five here. This is a team that's going to
• 29:03
  come in and say, you know what, we think we might have the
• 29:06
  better team here. We're going to win this game. So West Virginia's going
• 29:08
  to have to play and have a bounce back game here and find a way
• 29:11
  to get some buckets somewhere against a team that's really good defensively. Yeah.
• 29:15
  So, as Brad said, full disclosure, Zach is our boy. Zach
• 29:21
  has been on this show and I've known him literally since I first came to
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  Morgantown, and he was about this tall and he would sit across the way
• 29:30
  from me at Morgantown High School. I would do the game up in the
• 29:33
  crow's nest and his brother Timmy, who played at Purdue and then at Washington
• 29:38
  you and I said, Zach, you're me my statistician. So he's a
• 29:42
  little kid. And he would come up and climb up the ladder at halftime
• 29:45
  and tell me how many three pointers Morgantown had made, and I say,
• 29:48
  thank you very much. And so we've known him all along. And he
• 29:53
  started in the business with Greg Marshall at Winthrop. Got a job, a
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  non paid job at Winthrop out of college, and I'll give you the story.
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  So he's looking to get into the business, drives with the late Gary
• 30:08
  McPherson, who was an assistant, longtime assistant at West Virginia. Gary takes
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  him to the final four Indianapolis, and he says, I'll just I'll introduce
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  you to people. So he just takes him around. It just takes them
• 30:21
  all over the place and just Coach Mac is just now I want you to
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  meet and I want you to meet now this is this guy, and this
• 30:26
  is this guy. So Zach, Zach finds a way through all these introductions
• 30:30
  to get in with Greg Marshall at Winthrop. He goes down like no money
• 30:33
  for the job, but they say, this is what we'll do. You
• 30:36
  can work at this car wash and rock Hill. It's a weird business.
• 30:41
  You can work at this got a job for you. He works at this
• 30:45
  car wash and rock Hill like half the day, then runs over and starts
• 30:49
  to get in like just doing stuff for the folks at Winthrop. John Beeline
• 30:55
  a couple of years later, gets the job here. John Beeline got more
• 30:59
  calls about Zach Spiker. You gotta this Spiker kid. You gotta get this
• 31:00
  Spiker kid. You gotta get this Spiker. So giant ah fie. Yeah,
• 31:04
  fine, I've heard more about Spiker than I've heard about Tyrone Sally.
• 31:08
  So he brings him up and basically he's like a support staff guy at West
• 31:14
  Virginia, but like smart cat that he is. Like when West, he
• 31:18
  couldn't be on the floor right, So what he would do is he'd he'd
• 31:21
  go in the he would go up in the stands well while mountaineers were practicing,
• 31:26
  and he had a little leather little another book and he would write down
• 31:29
  every single drill, every single set the whole thing because like bee Line doesn't
• 31:33
  give his stuff up like you're asking Beeline for like the recipe to Coca Cola.
• 31:37
  Like bee Line's not giving his stuff up. John's is like, noh,
• 31:41
  we're gonna do with my stuff, right. So then through relationships,
• 31:45
  John gets them with Steve Donahue. Steve was at Cornell and and they have
• 31:52
  a great run. Zach becomes his lead assistant. And if you remember in
• 31:56
  twenty ten when West Virginia goes to the Final four, Corner now had a
• 32:00
  fantastic team. They're in Syracuse with us. They were really really good.
• 32:05
  So they had made it to the Sweet sixteen that year. So Zach was
• 32:07
  content. He was just gonna stay at Cornell for a bit. And then
• 32:10
  in October of his last year at Cornell, phone call, they fire Jim
• 32:17
  Cruz, who was the head coach at Army right when practice is going to
• 32:21
  start and they offer the job to Zach. Zach goes in bad situation.
• 32:27
  They just fired the coach. You can imagine that these guys are like,
• 32:30
  well, who's this guy? Goes in first head coaching job and puts that
• 32:34
  thing together, wins and wins and wins, ends up winning more games than
• 32:37
  coach k Or and Bob Knight at Army. At Army, which is hard
• 32:42
  to win, I mean really super hard to win, because when you recruit
• 32:45
  there, you say, and we need We'll give you four years, and
• 32:46
  plus you have to give us five more years. You know what his pitch
• 32:50
  was. His pitch was and get the best education in the world. Sure,
• 32:53
  zachk So, I mean that doesn't appeal to every basketball player, but
• 32:57
  appeals to some. That is, that is something you can recruit to which
• 33:00
  other schools cannot, no question. So he wins there. Drexel job opens.
• 33:05
  Drexel was like flat lining, like they had nothing going on there.
• 33:07
  It was had cooked. He gets in there, this is his eighth year,
• 33:13
  and he builds, he builds, he builds, he builds, and
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  you can just watch the ladder. And a couple of years ago he gets
• 33:17
  him into the NCAA tournament, one of his conference tournament when the tournament got
• 33:22
  the automatic bid. And now he's in year eight and got a good team.
• 33:27
  He's got a good team, good solid team that could be anywhere in
• 33:30
  that you know, one, two, three in that league. Delaware is
• 33:32
  really good right now. But really good. So that's him and as you
• 33:37
  said, extremely well coached. He's learned from extremely bright minds. Has never
• 33:42
  been at a place yet where it's easy. I mean, it ain't easy.
• 33:46
  He's a hard job coach so far. It ain't easy at Cordnell,
• 33:50
  it ain't easy at Army, and it ain't easy at Drexel. One day
• 33:53
  I pray that he gets into a place that truly like is committed to do
• 34:01
  it, and that they may come for him, you know, but that's
• 34:06
  where he needs to get. But he's a hard he's a hard place coach
• 34:08
  right now. So that's that's that's who he is, and he works it.
• 34:13
  So one thing for them. So a couple of things. I think
• 34:15
  if you're looking from an angle from West Virginia, that you want to stay
• 34:19
  around and stay in this game and have a chance to win it. Late
• 34:21
  I mentioned their pace is fairly slow, not a ton of they don't force
• 34:24
  a ton of turlers defensively, even though they're very very good defensively, shots
• 34:28
  are going to be hard. And then they they don't shoot the three extremely
• 34:31
  well, or at least haven't this year, and that's one of the parts.
• 34:34
  They've got some guys that can make shots. So at some point during
• 34:37
  the year they're going to have guys get hot. If you're West Virginia,
• 34:39
  you just hope it's not Saturday, because if they get hot and guard you,
• 34:43
  they're really tough out. But so far they've struggled from three. So
• 34:46
  I think it's just in comment upon West Virginia, you've somebody's got to mix
• 34:50
  some outside shots, whether that's Josiah Harris when he's open or Seth Wilson has
• 34:54
  to be able to make and assist with Quinn and Jesse Edwards scoring, it
• 34:59
  just can't be those two again, But that's going to be the matchup to
• 35:01
  watch. Those two have to score and then is there somebody else that can
• 35:05
  come along and make some shots. Yeah, all right, so we'll see
• 35:07
  how it all unfolds. If you were to say one thing that West Virginia
• 35:13
  absolutely must do and one thing absolutely Drexel must do, what would they be,
• 35:17
  Well, West Virginia is And again this I don't mean this to be
• 35:21
  a cop out. They've got to find a way to make a few more
• 35:22
  three point shots. They just simply do. Because right now you just see
• 35:27
  the attention Edwards gets when the ball goes in and he is drawing a lot
• 35:30
  of fouls as I just mentioned, but you've got to be able to make
• 35:34
  those shots when he kicks it back out to you. That is first and
• 35:37
  foremost, And I think the Drexel side would tell you the same. I
• 35:40
  mean, they know they're going to guard. They're going to do a good
• 35:43
  job at that. If that Drexel team starts to make some shots from outside
• 35:46
  the perimeter, they are really dangerous because they can get to the lane.
• 35:50
  Most of their work is done inside the lane. If they start to get
• 35:52
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• 35:55
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  Don't know yet who is or who isn't playing? I think uh I
• 42:09
  should say this. The lean from what I'm hearing is you're gonna be pretty
• 42:15
  good shape. But again, who knows. Hello from Hurricane. Really enjoying
• 42:21
  watching three guys. Hoppy's not the only one with a party line. Still
• 42:23
  using Hoppy, Hoppy Hoppy for our first down communication. I'm going to the
• 42:27
  mail bowl. My son lives in Winston saying I'm perfect fit for me.
• 42:29
  Remember eating mayonnaise sandwiches as a youngster. Also make it a point to carry
• 42:34
  monogrammed hanky. Keep up the great work, Fred McPherson, not from McPherson,
• 42:37
  Kansas. Thank you, Fred. Look at that's in his house.
• 42:45
  You do not think it's operational, but that's in his house. An old
• 42:47
  phone. Texter, Hi, Alice, this is James Bickerton from four Longs
• 42:52
  in One Shorts. Can you please connect me with mister Kirchill Shorts. Thank
• 42:58
  you? That might be my highlight of the year. Texter, just finished
• 43:01
  watching the pod on the YouTube's. As a kid growing up in Bridgeport,
• 43:06
  our phone in the basement was a party line. You had to listen to
• 43:07
  the ring combo to know if the call was for you so you could answer
• 43:09
  it. I guess by now that it's forty eight years ago. Also,
• 43:14
  when I dress up, I always have a hanky. Was told what happens
• 43:17
  if you see a beautiful woman crying If you get a handkerchief, you swoop
• 43:21
  in, You save the day. Well played, nice, Thanks, Thank
• 43:23
  you very much, Sir Walter Raleigh. Based on these alone, I have
• 43:27
  officially aged out. See you the nursing Home, Hoppy, the real Nick,
• 43:31
  the Greek from Bridgeport now Living. That's good gives a shout out to
• 43:37
  our own Chris Claihorn for getting him to watch the program. So thank you
• 43:39
  to Chris Texter Cee Ellen Clarksburg. I'm writing in support of my fellow j
• 43:45
  school grat, Hoppy, who received unwarranted harassment over his use of a party
• 43:49
  line on the most recent episode. I'm a year older than Hoppy. It
• 43:53
  grew up in Fairmount. We had a single party phone. Then when you
• 43:58
  picked it up, the receiver and the operator answered number please and first grade.
• 44:01
  The nice lady from CMP Telephone came to our school to teach us the
• 44:05
  latest cutting edge technology rotary dial phones. Meanwhile, my relatives and enterprise had
• 44:12
  a four party line. Their ring signal was four rings each about one second
• 44:17
  in length and separated by about one second. I can recall my aunt picking
• 44:21
  up the phone and, upon finding the line in use by a neighbor,
• 44:23
  saying, Benny, get off the line. I've got an important call to
• 44:28
  make. And I can remember my cousin talking on the party line when she
• 44:31
  heard the unmistakable click of someone else from the party line picking up the phone
• 44:36
  and eavesdropping on the call. That usually led to, hey, you get
• 44:38
  off my call. They had a party line in the early nineteen seventies,
• 44:43
  Oh the good days. By the way, that is exactly how it worked,
• 44:45
  exactly. You know. It was frustrating on those rotary dials though.
• 44:49
  Ho about when you got to like one of the last couple of numbers and
• 44:51
  your finger slips and it didn't go all the way and you got to restarting.
• 44:54
  You know, I have nightmares about that, having to restart on the
• 44:59
  Yeah, I have to re art and you can't die. I'm trying to
• 45:00
  die and you were not patient. I assume your whole life just like you
• 45:04
  are now so here in a hurry in yeah, yeah, jeez. Nate
• 45:07
  from Morgantown has a situation Scopes spreads and mister Walter Hagen, first time text
• 45:15
  her this weekend, I'm driving to our nation's capital to watch my beloved Dolphins
• 45:20
  and former mountaineer David Long continue their dream playoff rush. Side note, I
• 45:23
  would love his spreads on stats about the sneaky good season that David's having for
• 45:28
  Miami. While driving, I instructed my girlfriend that I had to listen to
• 45:30
  a couple of episodes of Three Guys to catch up on during the drive,
• 45:35
  and she had to put her ear pods on if she didn't want to listen
• 45:38
  to those folks that she calls the Three Crazy Guys. About thirty minutes into
• 45:43
  the episode, she looks over at me, pauses the podcast, and says,
• 45:45
  what are you doing? I had no idea what she was talking about
• 45:52
  and replied nothing. She proceeded to ask what the clicking noise coming from my
• 45:57
  mouth was. Apparently I have begun up consciously echoing your clicks and adding my
• 46:02
  own where I feel necessary. I take it back. This has now made
• 46:10
  my year. You guys have conditionally trained me to click on command, and
• 46:15
  without my knowledge. I'm not sure whether I am impressed or concerned either way,
• 46:21
  and love the show and everything you're doing. Looking forward to getting to
• 46:23
  Charlotte a couple of weeks. Let's go Nate for Morgantown real quick. David
• 46:30
  Long, he's having a pretty good year. Yeah, he'll hit you.
• 46:32
  Defensive grade seventy one. How about his rush defense grade ninety two. That's
• 46:37
  what they always said. Remember when he was here, he was a great
• 46:39
  run stopper. One last thing, Second on the team. Get Scott and
• 46:44
  report Nate second on their team. Remember that metric that PFF does called stops.
• 46:47
  It constitutes a failure for the offense in which defenders responsible. Second on
• 46:52
  their team is David Long from Miami. So there you go, Nate.
• 46:55
  Three guys, the BCSCFP has never been about crowning and champ If that would,
• 47:00
  they'd use a system similar to what the fifty States have for high school
• 47:04
  football. Heck, even the NCAA has got a D two D three junior
• 47:07
  college football. The BCSCFP more of a combination of a battle of the network
• 47:12
  stars in professional wrastling. Sorry, but the final three games of the season
• 47:15
  do not have any interest for me, Texter. Could you, three guys
• 47:19
  please comment on the wv women's basketball team. They're sure off to a good
• 47:22
  start. Also, driving back from Ranson after visiting our daughter for Thanksgiving and
• 47:27
  made a stop at the Kroger on Suncrest. So that's Gucci Kroger, just
• 47:30
  to pick up some kercheval but alas they were sold out. Of course they
• 47:35
  will have none for four months. What what because they're not going to be
• 47:38
  around here. It still has not arrived on tapp in Parkersburg that I found.
• 47:43
  I'll continue efforting, hoping in twenty twenty four, I've got an opportunity
• 47:45
  at sample. Signed Kathy from Washington, West Virginia. It's Wood County,
• 47:50
  Thanks Kathy. Women's basketball, I mean Mark Kellogg as good as advertised and
• 47:57
  and his women are playing exceptionally well. Eight no, I think is it?
• 48:01
  Eight? Beat Penn State nationally raided nickname, ran him off the floor
• 48:06
  at the coliseum, lined up, stole the ball from him doing doing both
• 48:09
  things well, guarding extremely well. That defense has been fantastic, but also
• 48:13
  scoring. So they've they've got to going hoppy. I tell you those analytics,
• 48:16
  I use the charts I live. There's red and green. You can
• 48:19
  see it from where you go. That's a lot. You're struggling to find
• 48:22
  the red. And they're smart Kellogg and crew off to a great start.
• 48:25
  JJ Quinnerley having a great, great start as well. I might do that
• 48:29
  women's game on Sunday. Really really yeah, as your the normal play by
• 48:34
  play, Junior's out there doing that soccer. If the soccer team wins on
• 48:37
  Friday, he's going to stay there in Louisville and do the Monday championship.
• 48:42
  Well, then I hope that you are doing the gay touch means he stays
• 48:45
  in West Virginia's playing for the Natty. Absolutely, Uh, Texter, leave
• 48:50
  Hoppy alone about the hanky. I also use them. Get him on his
• 48:52
  political drama, not his style. On my flight to Minneapolis this week,
• 48:58
  I got some weird looks after laughing now loud during three longs and two shorts
• 49:01
  and Santa's Boot. Thank you, three guys, West and Lake popular Santa's
• 49:07
  boot decorations. Like Tony was completely flummoxed by that. I go with Santa's
• 49:13
  boot. How about this one? Adam from Melbourne, Australia, who wrote
• 49:20
  in is it true that if West Virginia beats North Carolina and the Bowl,
• 49:23
  North Carolina returns James o'conquo and he's immediately eligible for conference play. It'd be
• 49:29
  great. I'll tell you this. I bet you old James. I don't
• 49:32
  know what he probably wishes he was here right now. You ain't getting a
• 49:37
  whole lot of tick. He's not with the heels. Uh. Texter says,
• 49:40
  I have to come to Hoppy's defense. I grew up in Nicholas County.
• 49:45
  When my then high school girlfriend who's now my wife, began dating in
• 49:47
  nineteen seventy eight, our family was part of a four home party line.
• 49:52
  Now we had progressed beyond hand cranked phones, but Hoppy and I didn't have
• 49:55
  the luck to grow up in such cosmopolitan air. He is like Lackawana,
• 50:00
  New York, or West des Moines, Iowa. True. Thanks, I'm
• 50:04
  by pe one Dad. Well here, pee one Dad. Let's get a
• 50:07
  fact. I'm not from Lackawana. Ron Jaworski's from Lackawana. I'm from Lockport,
• 50:13
  home of the Erie barge cadeal Now, real quick, I am from
• 50:15
  West Mooines, major city hub. Had no idea what you guys are talking
• 50:19
  about with this stuff, but did receive some texts this from one of my
• 50:23
  college buddies. Went to a college in a little more rural area where brought
• 50:28
  my horizons with people around the state of Island that I interacted. One of
• 50:30
  my very good buddies. This is Tommy, who's in who lives in Iowa
• 50:35
  City now played baseball with me in college. Sent me these pictures that are
• 50:40
  one. They were in his family farms home on his side of the family.
• 50:45
  This particular picture is his father in law and mother in law. They
• 50:50
  also had the phone and hoppy. He wanted me to tell you. Tommy,
• 50:52
  a loyal listener to the program, wanted me to let you know his
• 50:54
  father in law was three shorts if you'd like to call, he's three shorts.
• 51:00
  So had him in Iowa too. Who knew? You know what?
• 51:04
  Bring him up? Where do you think that came from? Three shorts?
• 51:06
  Wring somebody up? Look at this beautiful, so Tommy said. When they
• 51:09
  moved off. When his family moved, his parents moved off the family farm,
• 51:14
  Tommy's grandparents moved into their house. They took their phone like that had
• 51:17
  it in their home for a long time as a decoration slash antique. No,
• 51:22
  you went, he's your college buddy. Yeah, and he listens to
• 51:24
  this religiously seriously. Yeah done, miss an episode. He's not a Mountaineer
• 51:29
  fan though, well I think he's kind of become one. Now, no
• 51:31
  Iowa Hawkeye fan first, but loves the Mountaineers too. Now, yeah,
• 51:35
  it listens all the time. So unbelievable this show. So he wanted to
• 51:37
  get your back. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you
• 51:40
  Ton and me for not knowing about what that was. Does does he ever
• 51:44
  come to the Iowa State games when the Mountaineers play there. I don't think
• 51:46
  he'd want to be seen in names he's an Iowa guy, but he's a
• 51:50
  big supporter of three guy. He might come see you, Okay, like
• 51:53
  to meet him? What's his name, Tommy? Thank you, Tommy,
• 51:57
  Tom Caniebel quite frank. We will give him a full name. Shotiebel Kniebel's
• 52:00
  son, No Canie buld Oh buh buh Tom Caniebel Hey, three guys love
• 52:05
  listening to Hoppy with handkerchief in hand talking about growing up with Alexander Graham.
• 52:08
  Pell I was surprised for all the takes on the bull positive approach. Everyone
• 52:13
  gets a trophy out. Look about the ball games. There's not another sport
• 52:16
  that celebrates anything other than champions conference or national. Just to confirm it's all
• 52:22
  a money grab, right, Alan Morgantown. I remember the first call we
• 52:24
  got, Watson, come here, I need you, Uh, Texter.
• 52:30
  I made a short pit stop at the Fayetteville Sheets and was horrified when I
• 52:35
  glanced at the restroom stall door saw written in red lipstick for a good time
• 52:39
  call Hoppy one nine three long, two shorts, two shorts. That's a
• 52:45
  that's an awesome moment this year, Texter. Gentlemen, normally I'm not with
• 52:50
  the hobster. But according to statistical data, the handkerchief market is growing at
• 52:53
  four point eight percent a year. So it looks like the market is favoring
• 52:58
  Hoppy. Love this show and gets me through. Look it there it is,
• 53:00
  in all seriousness. That is the graph on handkerchiefs up four point eight
• 53:05
  percent. That's what happens. I mean, you get four people to order
• 53:07
  one this year and you're up quite a bit. Okay, go ahead,
• 53:13
  no never mind, no no no, what, no, no say it.
• 53:16
  This show's stopping if you don't say, all right, I just said,
• 53:20
  if you're dressed up. But Brad's just gonna say you still just have
• 53:22
  a handkerchief, I mean, just still just having a tissue. Yeah,
• 53:24
  so that when you're dressed up, you put the pot. You don't use
• 53:28
  that square decoration. It's not used, I understand. And again, I
• 53:32
  mean most everywhere. I don't know that I've really ever been shut out of
• 53:36
  tissue. When I need a little tiss, you can find it. I
• 53:38
  mean they also make little packs of Kleenex. Now if you'd like to actually
• 53:42
  carry that. Yeah, reality of it is this reality of it. But
• 53:45
  I do have this again, there's always yes, I always have something with
• 53:50
  one. Is it laying around there? Why is it laying around? Is
• 53:52
  it have you used it yet? Yeah? And you just laid there on
• 53:54
  the tabletop. That's not defensible. It's yeah. If I if I sneeze
• 54:02
  in it like you do, it doesn't go back in my pocket where other
• 54:06
  people have accents. It goes in the garbage. And that's why I wipe
• 54:08
  the table. Do you spray down your handkerchief between uses handkerchief? No?
• 54:15
  I don't, Sir hamidam walking text? Oh Nam, I see her crying?
• 54:22
  Would you like to use my used handkerchief that I blew into? Listening
• 54:28
  to episode five ten, the argument with Brad and Hoppy over the hankies,
• 54:31
  I've been searching forward on episode eight hundred dot com, I know how to
• 54:37
  settle the winning debate. For the love of everything I have been searching for.
• 54:39
  Put them on the damn site and see how fast they sell out.
• 54:44
  I'll keep looking, though they won't be there by my fortieth birthday December the
• 54:47
  tenth to get them by Christmas. Also, Hoppy would be the same age
• 54:52
  as my dad, if my dad was still here, and I remember him
• 54:54
  talking about a party line and how my grandparents had the same number since he
• 54:58
  was a kid until my grandmother past a few years ago. But never have
• 55:01
  I heard of. Three longs and two shorts is a number. One of
• 55:04
  the funniest episodes. Keep up the great work. That's Jeff in Lumberfool Jeff,
• 55:07
  as you probably heard earlier, efforting on trying to get the hanky on
• 55:10
  the site. It's such an unusual request the supplier doesn't even put them up.
• 55:15
  It's options apparently, is the supply going to meet to demand? Texter
• 55:22
  Charlie from Midlothian would like to give a shout out and say hello to the
• 55:25
  Mitchells. I met Charlie and Martha during the April Live event. If you
• 55:29
  go to episode four sixty on youtubes following that event. Our picture is what
• 55:34
  first appears. See there's Charlie holding the microphone, and there it is Charlie
• 55:37
  and Martha to his to your right on the picture, and they're sitting in
• 55:44
  My answer to my question from Monday's podcast, Look closely at charlie shirt.
• 55:46
  It says Mount Everest base Camp. That's where he climbed. Yeah, that's
• 55:51
  a whole. And you know Martha Mitchell hoppy as you well know huge in
• 55:53
  Watergate. You remember John Mitchell's white Sure, yeah, I mean but that
• 55:59
  was Martha Mite was mobbed. Is that Sob next to Charlie looking horrified white?
• 56:04
  What's SOB's problem right there? Yeah? For those watching David Sob is
• 56:07
  to the left of the picture. That's the guy that made textual healing and
• 56:10
  spreads on stats and he does look like Charlie is just announcing that he's a
• 56:15
  member of the Communist Party or something over there. Come on, Sob.
• 56:22
  I love Sob. He's funny as hell. Andy every time he comes up
• 56:25
  to you just got a one liner when he sees you. Texter, Hello,
• 56:30
  three guys, My daughter and I went down a Disney cruise over Thanksgiving.
• 56:32
  While in Grand Caman, we decided to give swimming with the Dolphins a
• 56:37
  try. While waiting in line for our turn, we started talking to the
• 56:39
  couple in front of us. Where were they from? Fairmont? Of course,
• 56:44
  without even thinking, I said, there's always a West Virginia connection.
• 56:46
  I enjoy the show. I look forward to it every week. Crystal and
• 56:49
  Morgan to question, Yeah, Faye and Fayetteville Tony. The guy that Oscar
• 56:52
  Davenport replaced in the a ninety six Gator Bowl was Chris Keldorf. He said,
• 56:59
  I can't remember from year to ear which toats in the attic have Christmas
• 57:02
  lights in them, but for some reason I still remember that. Hey,
• 57:06
  you know, going back, here's a funny story. We were talking about
• 57:09
  Zack Spiker earlier, Yeah, earlier in nineteen ninety six. At that Bowl
• 57:14
  game, Zach was my spotter. Oh really, and Zach is a huge
• 57:19
  Mountaineer fan. And Chad Johnston threw an interception far sideline that was intercepted by
• 57:27
  dre Bly, who went on to play in the league and was a great
• 57:30
  player. Zach got so pissed that he never spotted it, like he just
• 57:37
  turned around and just like, and I'm going like, who got it?
• 57:44
  Who intercepted? The ball is intercepted? I still say to him this day,
• 57:46
  when are you going to point to the board to tell me there was
• 57:49
  dre Bligh. You know you can't have emotional spotters. No, your spotters
• 57:55
  have to be absolutely flatliner. Remember the judge danger. Yeah, he'd get
• 58:00
  all emotional. Hey, he not a good spotter. My son, Michael
• 58:05
  perfect spotter, doesn't care. Hey, just like this. He'd been around
• 58:12
  long enough, he knows the heartbreak. Yeah, I wonder I hope that
• 58:15
  that Zach has is able to have a moment in the colisseum, right,
• 58:21
  Brad. I mean before the game where he just kind of thinks, looks
• 58:24
  around and thinks, I hope so, but you don't. I upe so
• 58:27
  too. But he's he's a coach, so he's crazy. So he's all
• 58:29
  tight, right, worried about what defense west forig he's gonna throw out and
• 58:31
  what offense he counter's with. So that'll pribe be hard for him. But
• 58:34
  you're right, pretty neat, really a neat moment for him to be back
• 58:37
  here, having being a little kid in this area, be able to bring
• 58:39
  a team back in here to play in that building. Yeah. So do
• 58:43
  you know how many times as a little kid, his dad would go in
• 58:45
  there, turn the lights on, and Timmy and Zach would get shots off.
• 58:49
  Oh really, just grew up inside of there, grew up inside of
• 58:52
  there. Absolutely. Now if he wins the game, he needs to do
• 58:54
  a Bobby Bowden. I have no joy. There was no joy now.
• 58:59
  I wanted to win the game, but I have no choice. No joy
• 59:01
  now, I understand that there was no joy in beating the mountain. That's
• 59:05
  from Bobby, bids U, p One, Jason and Tulsa. Remember we
• 59:12
  taped that show with him. We did a Mountaineer Magazine episode with him.
• 59:15
  Were you there? Yeah, oh yeah, I want't to miss that.
• 59:16
  I didn't do anything for it. I just showed up and sat the back
• 59:19
  because I wanted to see it. Remember, And he got done, and
• 59:22
  one thought you were gonna do it again. No, the MSN crew thought
• 59:27
  they were gonna see MSN crew for years. About the stupidest thing I've ever
• 59:34
  seen. Like sometime one time a million years before, like they did an
• 59:39
  interview and there was like a hit on the tape or something got botched.
• 59:44
  So they would always like do the interview twice. So we get Bobby Bowden
• 59:47
  in there, and we do the interview with Bowden, and I mean it
• 59:51
  wasn't like sure. There was probably like six seven. Bobby was in no
• 59:53
  hurry to leave. Yes, so he was fine six seven eight minutes and
• 59:57
  they go okay, we got okay, and then they start is like,
• 1:00:00
  and now we're going to do it again. He went, he said,
• 1:00:05
  excuse me, wait, go ahead. Wait, But he would have because
• 1:00:08
  here's the thing. He came in the back and we had remember Billy as
• 1:00:12
  trooper that was with him forever right right here, Billy state Florida state tripper,
• 1:00:15
  that was with him all the time. He was in the back talking
• 1:00:17
  us. He came back there and signed things for at least four times as
• 1:00:22
  long as it took to do the interview. I mean, Bobby was no
• 1:00:23
  hurry. He was great, Now you want to do it again? Now
• 1:00:29
  we just did it, but you want to do it again now. I
• 1:00:31
  wishing coaching I could do that. If I don't like that play call,
• 1:00:35
  I just do that. I want to run that one again. He was
• 1:00:38
  fun. We were one of the bowl games, I guess was that bowl
• 1:00:42
  game where we went to practice, and you know anymore, everybody's so tight
• 1:00:45
  about everything right, and went up to the si D and said, now,
• 1:00:50
  is there some point we could talk with coach Paladin because after the practice
• 1:00:52
  whatever. He goes, well, he's right over there. You can just
• 1:00:55
  go ask him right now, like he was the best. You know.
• 1:01:00
  Also, the old school guys were so much more accessible. Yeah, Dean
• 1:01:08
  Smith, I'm in college wes Syracuse is playing North Carolina and Dean Smith got
• 1:01:16
  a team. I mean we're talking Kenny Smith. I mean, dude,
• 1:01:21
  well, guess what shocker he had a team. I gotta go to the
• 1:01:24
  rest. I be possible if we coach Smith. He goes like, yeah,
• 1:01:32
  I'll send him over, like North Carolina's warming up, like he Dean
• 1:01:37
  Smith walks over. I'm in the stands, like, come does that?
• 1:01:44
  Luke connor seca, Oh, Luke connes sect comes over, like puts his
• 1:01:47
  arm around you while you're doing the interview. Tom Osborne, I've told the
• 1:01:51
  Osborne Store interviewed him in a station wagon driving over from his office to the
• 1:01:54
  State of Like nowadays, these guys are so full of themselves, Like you
• 1:02:00
  got to get seventy two forms through the sid who's got to run it through
• 1:02:05
  thirteen people and then his handler. But you know what the and I know
• 1:02:08
  there are more demands on their time now than before. But at the same
• 1:02:12
  time, Tony, you've told those stories so many times. But you to
• 1:02:15
  you and anybody else that they treated like that, which was probably everybody,
• 1:02:20
  they say, Oh, man, Tom, he's a great guy, and
• 1:02:22
  he's been a great guy because they took a moment. Yeah, they took
• 1:02:25
  a moment with you which was which was incredible. You want to do it
• 1:02:29
  again? I wish I could do that again. I call that play.
• 1:02:32
  Let me do that again. You need those helmet out? Do you have
• 1:02:35
  more now? Are there more that you need? Time? He was the
• 1:02:37
  absolute best. He was a treasure. He was a treasure. Never never
• 1:02:42
  again. Guys. You always tell us to go to go for good times,
• 1:02:46
  go to Gomart. Well I did just that at the Gomart located in
• 1:02:51
  the Cancun, Mexico, on my way to destination. It was a good
• 1:02:52
  look there it is Gomart and can Con in attendance. How about that.
• 1:03:00
  I did not know that they had branched out overseas. It may be a
• 1:03:04
  different color combination, it may be a different logo and it may be a
• 1:03:07
  different store, but nevertheless it's go Martin can Coon. So here we go.
• 1:03:10
  They went to a wedding in attend. Let's pictured above three fellow three
• 1:03:15
  guys listeners. So you got Dougie Fresh who invites us all the time into
• 1:03:17
  Myrtle Beach, Bill the mayor of Evansdale, and the de facto listener my
• 1:03:22
  bride Hannah signed by Nate in the canaw Awesome graduations are awesome. I remember
• 1:03:30
  can Coon there and uh just gorgeous, just beautiful. Texter Tony Brad and
• 1:03:36
  Oliver Wendell Douglas. I grew up on an eight party line in Tolcott,
• 1:03:42
  two shorts and along on one second. You keep saying that wrong. It's
• 1:03:45
  talk it? Are you thousand percent sure? Yeah? I'm on thousand percent
• 1:03:49
  sure because I was stopped at the game last night and told to point it
• 1:03:52
  out today when you mispronounced it? How do I say it? Talk it?
• 1:03:54
  Excuse me? Talk it? Get the yellows there, talk it?
• 1:03:58
  Where was it? Tim West Virginia, Noel, talk it? Talk it
• 1:04:04
  correct. I'm gonna talk about crock it correct? That fine? Yea,
• 1:04:08
  yeah, there you go. I always had to know color wand ask him
• 1:04:12
  two longs in a short. No, he's two shorts in a law.
• 1:04:15
  Two shorts in the law. Oh God's wrong number? My bag? Uh?
• 1:04:26
  Wayne, And they're excited. They jump up, they get a call.
• 1:04:30
  They actually heard the ring correctly. Wayne and Clarksburg talk it talk it
• 1:04:36
  Hey, three guys. Jim from Preston County. I just finished episode five
• 1:04:40
  to ten. Wanted to say, First, I've got a three Guy's original
• 1:04:42
  hoodie. It's holding up great. I also recently purchased the efforting to shirt
• 1:04:46
  and it's great. I wanted to weigh in on the hanky debate. Brad
• 1:04:49
  chastis hoppy for not using tissues in place of the hanky, but then he
• 1:04:54
  had no tissues himself. Planning on the paper tiles being available wherever you go
• 1:04:58
  is not better than planning on having an option available if needed. Second,
• 1:05:00
  Santa's boot, What the ever loving hell? And lastly, a three Guys
• 1:05:05
  Hall of Fame statement. Three guys in a short? That was our number?
• 1:05:10
  What an episode? We gotta do that T shirt? Yeah? Three
• 1:05:12
  longs in the short. I mean, everybody's busy with the holidays, but
• 1:05:14
  don't worry. Efforting three longs in a short. You could, you know,
• 1:05:16
  Tony, given what you said, you could pull out like a chocolate
• 1:05:19
  reindeer and say, oh, look it's a chocolate cow. I tell you
• 1:05:27
  that those reces have not been good that Martha and Charlie gave us, because
• 1:05:30
  we've been picking on those all week, hounding them. You know how many
• 1:05:31
  calories are in three of those things? I don't don't worry about it.
• 1:05:34
  I guess what three boots, three little boots, probably probably two fifty.
• 1:05:42
  I think it was like one one five. But last night I got a
• 1:05:44
  bag of M and m's, you know how many? You know how many
• 1:05:45
  calories? And a bag of peanut m and ms at the coliseum fifty four
• 1:05:49
  fifty, like a bag of those surprisms prior to broadcast, because that would
• 1:05:55
  be a chocolate thing, a peanut dust. You get those peanuts or the
• 1:05:58
  worst. I'm always I've always looked down on that I do. He laughs
• 1:06:01
  that off. I laughed that I don't do popcorn, but I will do.
• 1:06:06
  You'll do Penis. Don't scare. He just takes your bag, opens
• 1:06:12
  it and just drinks it like he's drinking out of there. You won't eat
• 1:06:14
  himduring the game. No, I don't know. Uh, here's something.
• 1:06:16
  This confirms what I thought. There are hankies involved with railroad employees. Here
• 1:06:21
  we go picture, Please look right there. Petticoat junction. Boys. I
• 1:06:30
  think that's a perfectly fine use for a hanky. Now do they blow their
• 1:06:33
  nose in it and put it right back on their neck? I would do
• 1:06:35
  everything with it. They it and use it to wipe and if you're changing
• 1:06:40
  the oil, you put it on the car so you get a grin.
• 1:06:42
  It's for everything, everything. Multipurpose hanky. Absolutely. If they want to
• 1:06:45
  rob the train later, they just pull it up over there. Whatever,
• 1:06:49
  it's multi use. Does this mean that Ted and Warrington who ripped me last
• 1:06:54
  time? He owes me an apology? That is railroad? It's evan because
• 1:07:00
  if you couldn't tell by the red they got the railroad hats on right,
• 1:07:01
  that's Tallahattan clearly denotes, clearly denotes at their Railroad's the name of that Petticoat
• 1:07:08
  junction? What was the train? That something? Cannonball? Well, he's
• 1:07:11
  asking us who did you like better, Bobby Joe, Betty Joe or Billy
• 1:07:15
  Joe. I felt like I was uncle Joe, This podcast is unbelievable.
• 1:07:20
  Tony, I have to take up for Hoppy with the three long, two
• 1:07:24
  short rings. I remember going to my grandparents in Old Town, Maryland when
• 1:07:28
  I was little. They had a party line and when it rang, you
• 1:07:30
  answered, if the correct combo of rings halfy? Are you good? I
• 1:07:32
  remember I remember my grandmother complaining because she could hear the lady that lived over
• 1:07:38
  the hill and breathing while she listened in on the call. Any chance of
• 1:07:43
  three Guys episode from Charlotte for the ballgame? If so, I'll be there
• 1:07:45
  Jr. From Cumberland. Oh so good. I think we struck a chord,
• 1:07:50
  a large chord, like a harp, the whole thing. I would
• 1:07:57
  love to do a three Guys episode at the bowl game. I'll be there.
• 1:08:01
  Dumb and Dumber aren't going to be there, so it'll make it difficult
• 1:08:05
  to do, but I would love to have done one. That would be
• 1:08:09
  fun. We just we got too much going on. Man. You got
• 1:08:12
  Bowl games on the twenty sixth, Yeah, we got Yeah? What do
• 1:08:15
  we have thirteen of them? Fifteen of them? Something like that. National.
• 1:08:17
  I was thinking if we could get you flying, to get your flown
• 1:08:20
  down there, on the twenty six We could do one about noon on the
• 1:08:24
  twenty sixth, that'd be good, but you gotta have all game twenties.
• 1:08:28
  We might have on twenty. Bet you do. I just got day by
• 1:08:30
  day and bull c if you well, we need a plane down and back,
• 1:08:33
  so you got to work on that. We get you if we can
• 1:08:35
  get a plane. We could and there's no game. I'd figure that out.
• 1:08:40
  But you have to get a plane. I understand, get you back
• 1:08:43
  and forth. He said that, like it's Alan Uber. Oh don't get
• 1:08:45
  a plane. I'm just saying, you know, if you listen, it
• 1:08:53
  is not out of the realm of possibility that our listeners. Right now,
• 1:08:57
  you're going to get a phone call and you're going to go like, if
• 1:08:59
  you guys want to plan on get you back and forth on the twenty sixth,
• 1:09:01
  you know that could happen. I've told you my plane story, right
• 1:09:04
  No lord, No, well wait a second. Based on your last response
• 1:09:09
  about the phone, here comes Well, this guy named Orville and his brother
• 1:09:12
  were there and they said, here, just jump off this hill. I
• 1:09:15
  went out and I helped with the wing. So this was years ago.
• 1:09:20
  Took my horse and carriage over there. To assemble the plane. The red
• 1:09:27
  Baron and I were. I said, Amelia, don't take off now,
• 1:09:32
  I don't think the weather's right. That's better than the story. Just mister
• 1:09:40
  Lumberg, please come back, just to God. Let's spend hours today on
• 1:09:46
  a Drexel scout and all we're doing is talking hankies and train guys, what
• 1:09:54
  was your story? Years ago? I was invited to this event in Arlston
• 1:10:00
  and I didn't really want to go, and I said, I'll go if
• 1:10:03
  you fly me down like big timing. Sure I've told you this, didn't
• 1:10:08
  I I don't think so they said, okay, oh god, okay,
• 1:10:12
  wow, fly down. I'm gonna fly out. So I show up at
• 1:10:15
  the airport. Here's this tiny little Piper cub. I get in the back
• 1:10:19
  like a pilot. I'm in the back. How long does it take to
• 1:10:21
  drive to Charleston? Two hours? Took an hour forty five. Yeah,
• 1:10:29
  that's true. Work on a plane. We need to I don't want to
• 1:10:31
  be a remote control. Here's the deal, guys, here's a deal.
• 1:10:35
  I'll help you like you want when you do ask for a plane, so
• 1:10:40
  you don't get into that situation you always go. You go like Okay,
• 1:10:43
  I need a plane, two pilots at the least turboprop, king air.
• 1:10:48
  If not, I need a jet. You got to qualify it. Here's
• 1:10:51
  what happened, that's why you're getting us a plane. Here, I've had
• 1:10:55
  that happen to me. Oh yeah, you remember the year the Vinny testa
• 1:10:58
  already came in here and ran us off the field. Absolutely do. I
• 1:11:00
  think they scored seventy that night. John McKinney, the late John McKinney,
• 1:11:04
  who was our MSN engineer and I at that time we were broadcasting car races.
• 1:11:11
  Yeah, that's right, car races. And so the plan was a
• 1:11:15
  guy says, i'll fly you guys. We said, we got a game.
• 1:11:17
  He said, I'll bring a plane up and we'll fly you over to
• 1:11:19
  the race that night to Winchester, Indiana. Oh my gosh, get on
• 1:11:27
  the plane at Morgantown Airport. Again, I'm so young, so naive,
• 1:11:30
  so stupid. One pilot, single engine plane. Get in enough room for
• 1:11:35
  me to sit, and then John McKinney sat in the co pilot's seat.
• 1:11:41
  We take off sounded like I was inside of a wind turbine, and I
• 1:11:47
  went like whoa. So we go up, we go above the interstate,
• 1:11:54
  and now we're on the interstate and we're running even with cars. We're running
• 1:12:00
  even with cars, and I'm going like, we're not moving like I think
• 1:12:04
  the cars like, and we're gonna we're riding down to the Interstate with them.
• 1:12:09
  But the thing is, we don't have wheels. We're just up in
• 1:12:11
  the air. It takes us like seven hours to get to Winchester, Indiana,
• 1:12:15
  and McKinney is smoking cigarettes. Oh gosh, you want to talk about
• 1:12:24
  helpless. Another one on that is Jack Fleming when he was doing the Steelers
• 1:12:29
  had a Mountaineer game here and he needed to get to New York for a
• 1:12:35
  Jet Steelers game. Like it was early Sea. I was exhibit. So
• 1:12:41
  Mike Parson says like, yeah, I'll get your plane, Jack Fleming.
• 1:12:45
  You know, Flemy was beautiful. He tell the story. I go to
• 1:12:47
  the airport, Now, where's my plane? Same thing like Parsons had got
• 1:12:53
  him like something that looked like two wings, a tire in an engine,
• 1:12:58
  and Flemy would not let it go. Jack. Jack was just going,
• 1:13:01
  you know Parsons. Parsons put me Now. Jack was a navigator in the
• 1:13:08
  war. Yeah, yeah, I've shut out. We've landed in a tree
• 1:13:11
  in France. Yeah, and like you said at Parsons. So anyway,
• 1:13:15
  the long story is that is when you ask for a plane specify Texter about
• 1:13:24
  three times a year for many years, as our best friends who had stayed
• 1:13:27
  with us over the weekend, we're going to their car to leave. We
• 1:13:29
  would stand on the front porch. They would look back at us and say
• 1:13:31
  thanks for having us. My wife would say thanks for being had, and
• 1:13:35
  the context of a home victory would have a little bit of an edge.
• 1:13:39
  Nevertheless, that's our suggestions, thanks for being had, Doctor Jeff and Charleston
• 1:13:43
  Texter. First time, long time, I love the pot. I grew
• 1:13:46
  up in Seneca Rocks, now living Cornelius, North Carolina. I still own
• 1:13:49
  land in Pendleton County. I think our community was one of the last communities
• 1:13:53
  in the United States to get dial phones. In the mid seventies. Our
• 1:13:56
  number was four shorts. In the long I know exactly what hoppies talking about.
• 1:14:00
  My grandma would get up in the middle of the night to listen into
• 1:14:01
  a party line. Call up the phone. Right. This whole story is
• 1:14:05
  usually the one i'd tell where there's an icebreaker and you have to tell something
• 1:14:09
  interesting about yourself anyway. I can't wait to watch the World Champions beat the
• 1:14:13
  Tar Hills and Charlotte. My daughter just graduated from you NC and May.
• 1:14:15
  So that's where you got all the gossip. You didn't have Facebook, like
• 1:14:17
  you didn't now you just got a Facebook. Yeah. Now you get up
• 1:14:20
  on your party line. Yeah yeah, so somebody said, get off,
• 1:14:24
  get off the line. Who's that breathing? A longtime listener from Pennsylvania,
• 1:14:29
  lifetime WVU fan thanks to my alum stepmom Becky. My older brother Joe returned
• 1:14:34
  turned me out of this podcast a few years ago. He moved to Saberton
• 1:14:36
  after meeting my sister in law at the Wendy's there and never came home again.
• 1:14:43
  I enjoy the banner among you three as much as the sports. I'd
• 1:14:45
  like to propose that Tony be required to speak at least once per episode as
• 1:14:50
  Sean McDonough. It makes me laugh so hard every time. Thanks for all
• 1:14:55
  the laughs, guys. If you were the three amigos, who would be
• 1:14:57
  Chevy Chevy and Martin? Chevy, Martin and Steve. Josh, you should
• 1:15:01
  do Sean every show. I agree, Josh. I don't know, eh,
• 1:15:08
  Ryan from Hurricane Wonderful Place, Why just why West Virginia is located in
• 1:15:14
  the eastern time zone and he's mad about when they released the bowl graphic,
• 1:15:18
  they put the stupid bowl time in four thirty Central. He's right, I
• 1:15:23
  don't know. How do we backslide there? Yeah? I thought that was
• 1:15:26
  fixed, so whomever had been doing it for the regular season was on vacation
• 1:15:30
  and they had to slide somebody else in there that didn't get the memo.
• 1:15:33
  I wrote the note to the guy that got it fixed, and I haven't.
• 1:15:39
  He's efforting. Athletic director chimed in on that as well. Yeah,
• 1:15:41
  I did see the athletics. It wasn't happy. Yeah, I wasn't happy.
• 1:15:45
  Written now, Rental, he'll get it way in we'll fix it.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah, he won't get involved. Help us. I have a really good
• 1:15:54
  line. I'm not going to use it now, but if they don't get
• 1:15:56
  it fixed, and I'm going to use it. Okay. Hey, guys,
• 1:15:58
  wondering your thoughts on the theory of the NCAA blackballing West Virginian transfer decisions
• 1:16:02
  because of former WV running back Sean Alston's lawsuit that he won in the Supreme
• 1:16:06
  Court over the NCAA Gestapo. I think that might be a huge stretch.
• 1:16:16
  Texter scopes spreads and hanky boy Connor from Charlotte here. After listening to every
• 1:16:23
  episode since twenty seventeen's Virginia Tech Preview, I figured it's probably about time to
• 1:16:28
  send you a text with you guys visiting the city I currently call home.
• 1:16:31
  I figured I throwed a few food recommendations in South Park. Little Mama's Italian
• 1:16:40
  in Supperland in Plaza Midwood was recently righted the best new restaurants in America.
• 1:16:45
  While pricey, it's an incredible dining experience. So Supperland and Plaza Midwood.
• 1:16:50
  Workman's Friend in Plaza Midwood, more laid back Irish pub ps. I hope
• 1:16:56
  the coaching staff and the trust work hard to keep Nico around. Having one
• 1:17:00
  more year of Gigi and then transitioning to Nico after Garrett's gone. We give
• 1:17:02
  us four to five years of consistent, high level quarterback play. Just a
• 1:17:09
  thought from someone who doesn't know much about anything. Cheers, boys, Merry
• 1:17:12
  Christmas. Appreciate you. Texter. Let me start by saying thank y'all for
• 1:17:18
  thank you for all you do and keeping us lost and transplanted West Virginians up
• 1:17:24
  to date on everything in West Virginia sports. I'm not much of a Texter,
• 1:17:27
  but I wanted you all to know how much you guys mean to me
• 1:17:30
  and my family. I listened to every episode of Three Guys as well as
• 1:17:33
  sports Line. I've lived in southern California for about twenty five years. I've
• 1:17:36
  spent the last twenty four trying to get home. I'm from Point Pleasant and
• 1:17:42
  I've been raised to love West Virginia sports and the state in general. The
• 1:17:45
  point of the text was to maybe help Hoppy clarify what I think he meant
• 1:17:48
  when asking about how much was in our collective. I think the better question
• 1:17:51
  to ask would be how do we stack up against other schools in Big twelve
• 1:17:56
  or Nashally. I know we are not going to be on the same level
• 1:18:00
  is some Big tens in secs. I'm just wondering if we're on a similar
• 1:18:02
  level to the rest of the conference. Also tell Brad that I grew up
• 1:18:09
  during the Mothman era and i lived in Point Pleasant for my first twenty five
• 1:18:12
  years, and I've never seen or heard from the Mothman and I, of
• 1:18:15
  course still have land in Mason County. Thanks again for all you guys do.
• 1:18:18
  Keep up the good work. Thanks Chuck from SoCal originally from Point Pleasant,
• 1:18:25
  Thanks for listening to answer your question in collective Moneies, West Virginia is
• 1:18:34
  in the upper half among the other big twelve schools. How do you know
• 1:18:39
  that? I was told that by the people that know, and we'll do
• 1:18:45
  this in an upcoming episode. But so far, so good on that front.
• 1:18:47
  You've had some key guys say they're coming back. Wyatt, Mile m
• 1:18:51
  Thomas, Remac, Brandon Yeates, Cole Taylor, Trotter I think is a
• 1:18:56
  really interesting one. The freshman that was injured this year, I think can
• 1:18:58
  be really good. So Trailon Ray recently just announced some Wow, that's a
• 1:19:01
  huge good start there, especially Brad. When you look at some of these
• 1:19:04
  other schools, like top name quarterbacks, just immediately out, yeah, there's
• 1:19:09
  some that's the one position. The Texter mentioned the quarterback position there, And
• 1:19:12
  isn't it nice because told you on this program, Yeah, isn't it nice?
• 1:19:15
  You had a guy that had an elite season in Garrett Green and you're
• 1:19:18
  sitting here as West Virginia fans not worrying about what's going on in the portal
• 1:19:21
  with the quarterback, right, don't worry about it. Huge. He made
• 1:19:25
  that announcement here did I said? Told him right here, sitting in this
• 1:19:27
  chair, told him. Isn't that nice? Yes? Absolutely, you're just
• 1:19:32
  worrying about quarterback. Yeah, and not just a guy like well he started
• 1:19:36
  last year now hopefully takes a step forward this year. But that just guy
• 1:19:40
  was elite this year. And school's top tier schools. Now they'll get players
• 1:19:44
  because they have money and their time in their top schools, but they're looking
• 1:19:47
  for quarterbacks. West Virginia's got some players coming in this weekend. Portal people
• 1:19:51
  really visits. Got about a half a dozen seven people visiting some portal people
• 1:19:56
  coming in. Oh really yeah, you got any info on it? I
• 1:20:00
  just gave it to you. Heavy on the defensive side. Yeah, well
• 1:20:03
  you need that. Jane Duncan and Ryan from scott Depot right in. I
• 1:20:09
  wanted to give my mother a grandmother I should say I wanted to give my
• 1:20:11
  grandmother a birthday shout out. She's a huge fan, never misses an episode.
• 1:20:15
  We had her birthday party at the Three Guys Gomart Ballpark. Well,
• 1:20:19
  congratulations Jane and Ryan, thank you for listening, and Grandma a very very
• 1:20:26
  happy birthday to you, Hoppy. My aunt and uncle lived in Logan County,
• 1:20:31
  the town of Switzer. My uncle worked in the coal mines. I
• 1:20:33
  can remember their phone having three longs into shorts. As you mentioned, their
• 1:20:38
  phone number was five to five J two, and their ring was of course
• 1:20:41
  unique to their number. So that's a no, no unusual if you grow
• 1:20:45
  up in that time. I was born in forty eight, so probably six
• 1:20:48
  or seven when we were down there, and being that young, you used
• 1:20:51
  to make the mistake early and if anytime the phone ring, I'd pick up
• 1:20:56
  the phone, and of course it'd always be for someone else, until I
• 1:20:59
  learned that every one on the party line had their own unique ring tone.
• 1:21:02
  So stick stick it to him, Hoppy. A lot of people supporting you
• 1:21:06
  appreciate that. A lot of people have, you know, fond memories of
• 1:21:11
  that. Professor Vinnie weighs in on the Great hanky debate. Research shows that
• 1:21:15
  handkerchiefs are less hygienic than tissues, and every time you blow your nose,
• 1:21:17
  you're piling on a fresh germ. The snot stops the virus from drying.
• 1:21:21
  Out, Hence it lives longer. The extra moisture can even help it grow.
• 1:21:26
  Yuck, Sorry, Hoppy, this one's going down in history with the
• 1:21:30
  Dolorean, Microsoft Zoom and New Coke king Rob from resting. It's been a
• 1:21:39
  hot minute since I've had a chance to text, although I've still never missed
• 1:21:42
  an episode I look forward to each week. Forget episode eight hundred, I'm
• 1:21:45
  thinking a thousand. I've lost my place. I'm boxing around. Where are
• 1:21:51
  we anyway? I was visited by the Mothman last night. He threatened me
• 1:21:55
  if I didn't start a Rayquon Battle petition. So here we go. You
• 1:22:00
  got a petition out there. I think the best thing that's happened in Raycon
• 1:22:04
  Battle is Rayquon put that video out. Excellent. Yeah, it furthers my
• 1:22:10
  belief. I've said this many times, So further's my belief that there should
• 1:22:13
  be a vehicle for those people to present their case life. Yeah, when
• 1:22:16
  it happens, even if it's Zoom related. Hearing it directly from him,
• 1:22:19
  he did a wonderful job of outlining there, Oh that was a good video.
• 1:22:25
  Willie g not the earl of lf you giving Tony a freeline for the
• 1:22:29
  Mayo Bowls scene Center WVU got miracle whipped in Houston. Let's hope we don't
• 1:22:33
  get duked in Charlotte. On another note, I guess West Virginia dodged a
• 1:22:41
  bullet or got screwed, depending on which side of the trust the climb you're
• 1:22:45
  on. When stoops of Kentucky got rudely nicked from the Texas A and M
• 1:22:48
  job search, I love the pod. Hope we have at least eight hundred
• 1:22:56
  three guys. Longtime listener, First time Texter had to share this story in
• 1:23:00
  Seattle for work Wednesday. Pop into a pub to grab some dinner, watch
• 1:23:03
  the backyard brawl. Ask the bartender turn the game on. He says,
• 1:23:09
  oh, West Virginia, my daughter lives there where she turns out she goes
• 1:23:12
  to Marshall finished high school in Charleston at GW which was also just happens to
• 1:23:17
  be my alma mater. Even on the other side of the country, there
• 1:23:20
  is always a West Virginia and apparently a George Washington connection signed by Grant and
• 1:23:27
  Richmond, East Virginia by the way of Charleston. Always Texter, I'd like
• 1:23:33
  to propose a new offseason football segment where you rank the top five football players
• 1:23:38
  you've ever seen over each of your careers in various categories, but not obvious
• 1:23:43
  categories like top five quarterbacks. I'm thinking more like best hands, most athletic,
• 1:23:48
  fastest, strongest, most intelligent, most quirky, superstitious, most likely
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  to irritate a coach, biggest joker. Basically, things that aren't as simple
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  as listening the top five players, but require a deeper review into the program
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  than the average fan gets. Hope to hear some of your insights into these
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  given how close each of you have been to the program over the years.
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  JD Southern Coalfields, we could do something that'd be a good summer one.
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  M Clyde and Fairmount give hopy a break. I was born in a shack
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  in a holler in Upshire County in nineteen fifty and five. I'm a WVU
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  fan, winner lose, anyone can cheer for a winning team. We need
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  to support all of our sports teams and give these young people a reason to
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  play their hearts out. Clyde and fhairmah same age as I am awesome.
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  Let me also just throw this out here as a disclaimer. Yeah, a
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  couple people, you know, just various wherever I'm running around, think that,
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  like when we bust each other on this program, or Brad yells at
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  Hoppy or Hoppy, like we actually, I'll just say this once, we
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  actually like each other. We have fun with each other. What you see
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  when we do this is exactly the way it is when we're not on the
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  air. True, that's what it is. And so I think sometimes people
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  like take stuff like, no, we're just we're just having fun. Right
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  if we didn't kid, we wouldn't love you. Just you just broke the
• 1:25:18
  aura of or what some tension, the creative tension. Some people come up
• 1:25:24
  to me sometimes and they go like some people go like, I just kept
• 1:25:27
  that. They get and they get on that and he's mean and he's been
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  like, no, no, dude, we're just we're just breaking. I'm
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  just breaking. That's it. Well never mind, hmmm, what No,
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  it's it's one of my life theories. And whenever I say this, it's
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  like, oh, okay, you're trying to create differences between men and women.
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  Is that? I think this is primal. I think that guys when
• 1:25:49
  guys are together, and I think this goes back to prehistoric days and they
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  and guys. Since if there's three guys in a sense of weakness on one,
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  then two are going in. I think that's how it is. And
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  I think that we don't do that, like we aren't stabbing each other with
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  homemade knives, but kind of figuratively we are. I think that's what it
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  is. I think it's a holdover. I think it's a great point.
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  And I don't know if it's just me. You can t go in.
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  That's what happens, like if you're on Tony and either either I'm either either
• 1:26:28
  I'm gonna back Tony and we'll try to back you into a corner, or
• 1:26:31
  I'll come with you and we'll see if we can take Tony down. It's
• 1:26:35
  that's how it is now, You're right, And I didn't know if that
• 1:26:39
  was and I didn't know if that was just me or the way that I
• 1:26:43
  was, the way that I was raised. That's but like where I come
• 1:26:45
  from, man like it is absolutely you just crush people and you have fun
• 1:26:51
  doing it. And I think a lot of people are a gas by that,
• 1:26:57
  but I think it's more male. Oh yeah it is, Oh yeah,
• 1:27:00
  it is. Yeah. Jeff and Scott Depot. I don't necessarily agree
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  that depth is the entire problem. If we had a couple more players,
• 1:27:11
  people would be saying we have to shorten rotation problems talent. We're playing four
• 1:27:15
  and five guys major minutes that a best should be getting a handful. I'm
• 1:27:19
  not saying they are not good guys and they stuck it out, but there
• 1:27:23
  may be a reason they didn't go elsewhere. Right now, we have two
• 1:27:26
  guys playing that should be seeing major minutes fire away, Jeff and Scott Depot.
• 1:27:34
  Here's man, that's what I would say, Jeff. It's hard and
• 1:27:41
  it's going to get harder. Yes, it is, gentlemen, Chris and
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  Mariata. Like the great musician Prince God rest his soul, Hoppy has officially
• 1:27:48
  become a symbol. Did you see he put the symbol though, Yeah,
• 1:27:55
  the symbols there. That's right. That should probably be the T shirt.
• 1:28:00
  Yeah, that should be it' that's a great if you know, you know,
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  yeah, that's really good. Well done, Chris. Even though the
• 1:28:10
  outcome wasn't what I wanted. Texters says, I had a great time at
• 1:28:14
  my first Blackout game, ran into Coach Hunter twice and spreads not once,
• 1:28:18
  not twice, but three times that right. Stopped at the Gomart and Bridgeport
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  on my way home, filled up with gas, grabbed a few coke zeros
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  and yes to re size Christmas trees for the trip home. Apparently he didn't
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  pick up any Santa Boots, No boots. Thank you Spreads for the recommendation.
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  Signed by p One Jennings, who also uses a handkerchief for handling sinus
• 1:28:39
  issues. Jennings and I had a nice talk. Wanted to make sure he
• 1:28:42
  was at the game by himself, heading back to Charleston by himself. I
• 1:28:45
  wanted to make sure he knew to get caffeinated up for the right. Yeah,
• 1:28:47
  you gotta just stay awake there late night going back. So the longmower
• 1:28:50
  boys weren't in with them, didn't see him. No, they weren't with
• 1:28:53
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• 1:29:10
  so the mountaineers world champion Mountaineers on Tomorrow, Friday take on the Clemson Tigers
• 1:29:20
  to try to get to the national Championship Game College Cup, and we strongly
• 1:29:26
  support Mountaineers soccer and coach Stratford. Since Hoppy hired him, we are efforting
• 1:29:33
  and fingers crossed that they get that victory tomorrow and play on Monday in the
• 1:29:40
  Championship. We talked to Rin about an extension. You call right up and
• 1:29:45
  say, listen, Ren, I know you're a little bit new to the
• 1:29:46
  area. I hired him. I made the hire on Stratford, and I
• 1:29:50
  I want all things good for Dan. He did think the athletic director's eyeing
• 1:29:57
  something there. Yeah, that's a guy who want to keep right. Yes,
• 1:30:00
  a great shot, Yeah done, a great shot. All right,
• 1:30:01
  we're back on Monday. We'll recap wvu's soccer to that point, and we
• 1:30:05
  will also give the recap on a Drexel the next week's final exams, and
• 1:30:11
  so West Virginia won't play again until you Mass in Springfield the following Saturday,
• 1:30:15
  and then finally Kirk ca Resa comes back. That'll do it. We be
• 1:30:20
  done. No, don't forget Episode eight hundred dot com Final Chance Here for
• 1:30:25
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• 1:30:28
  stuff in. Celebrate Christmas the way that it should be with popcorn, coffee,
• 1:30:33
  coffee, efforting T shirts and as soon. Okay, hank maybe we'll
• 1:30:39
  have the hankies ready for our Valentine's edition. Dave says we can't find them.
• 1:30:42
  Well, we'll find them, Dave. Let me say, box them.
• 1:30:45
  We can find them. You can, Yeah, Tony's just got individually
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• 1:30:49
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