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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 7-22-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Pappy Day.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven ninety
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  Speaker 2: two one FM. Glad to be with you on another
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  Speaker 2: beautiful day here in Salt Lake City. I got duped,
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  Speaker 2: I got fooled. I got bamboozled by the weather this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Last night, thunderstorm rain, much needed rain. As we like
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  Speaker 2: to say, once he hit like age thirty eight, you
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  Speaker 2: do that thing where you walk out anytime there's precipitation,
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  Speaker 2: you walk up to a window, you put your hands
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  Speaker 2: on your hips. Yep, we need this, We needed the rain.
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  Speaker 2: We needed this. Or you know, as we've found out,
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  Speaker 2: if you're thirty four and have that's when you have
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  Speaker 2: your first child. Yeah, also that that's when you start.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you grew up in Saint George and like
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  Speaker 2: every day you're like, we don't have enough water. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if you grew up in Saint George don't have enough water,
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  Speaker 2: with the ominous fear of drought looming over every decision
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  Speaker 2: you ever make, then maybe that changes it. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful little thunderstorm last night up at my house, the
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  Speaker 2: wind was whipping around aggressively for a short time, got
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  Speaker 2: a nice little dousing of rain, and then this morning overcast, cloudy,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a breeze. I'm like, oh wow,
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  Speaker 2: might be in the eighties today, might be a nice
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  Speaker 2: little respite from this insane heat. And then I walked
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  Speaker 2: out of my house to drive down to the studio
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh wow, it's it's hot and
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  Speaker 2: humid now because of the rain last night. So in
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  Speaker 2: any case, it's still a wonderful day to be in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Utah.
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  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day to be here on the home
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  Speaker 3: of the Utes.
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  Speaker 2: And we're we're being hurried along by the choices of
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  Speaker 2: journalists in our market to write pieces on specific players.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to hold off on my over unders.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to make it all the way until August
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  Speaker 2: to start my over unders for this Utah football.
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  Speaker 3: Team, and we'll be interspersing him.
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  Speaker 2: I got a bunch of numbers I want to explore,
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  Speaker 2: talk about whatever, but I wanted to wait. And now
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  Speaker 2: it feels like I've got to do at least the
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  Speaker 2: way Sean Parker one, because there's a good piece in
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  Speaker 2: KSL dot com about Wayshan Parker feeling like he you know,
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  Speaker 2: he came up just short of his thousand yard goal,
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  Speaker 2: and there's some some suggestion there that he feels like
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  Speaker 2: he may be let down Utah fans. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: any U Tough fan feels let down by way Sean
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  Speaker 2: Parker's performance last year. He he could have made He
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  Speaker 2: could have made his thousand yard goal with you know,
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  Speaker 2: another three or four carries, But as it stands, he
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  Speaker 2: has yet to achieve a thousand yard season officially in
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  Speaker 2: college football. One hundred and forty nine carries, nine hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty one yards, six point six yard average, six
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns last year in his first year as a Yet
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  Speaker 2: he also had three receiving touchdowns on thirteen receptions. So
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  Speaker 2: selective use of way Sean Parker as a pass catcher
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  Speaker 2: out of the backfield, but he was effective there. Fourteen
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  Speaker 2: point two yards per catch is about as good as
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  Speaker 2: it gets. He had that one. I feel like it
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  Speaker 2: was a seventy yard or sixty or seventy yard screen
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  Speaker 2: pass right, a little wheel route that yeah, that excuses
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  Speaker 2: numbers just a little bit, but that that helps the
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  Speaker 2: fourteen yards per catch average when he only had thirteen
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  Speaker 2: catches At the.
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  Speaker 3: End of the day.
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  Speaker 2: There was a conversation that really took half the season
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  Speaker 2: last year about whether or not, you know, way Shawn
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  Speaker 2: Parker was the bell cow back, whether or not they
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  Speaker 2: were even gonna go with the Bell cow back. And remember,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I have to remind people that Jason
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  Speaker 2: Beck really skews very heavily into the run aspect of
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  Speaker 2: the offense. That's that's his strengthened scheme, and obviously Jim
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  Speaker 2: Harding was hugely instrumental in that as well. And both
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  Speaker 2: of those guys, they really created a nice little, nice
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  Speaker 2: little duo, especially in the run scheme they run the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: It all helps. It doesn't necessarily help a running backs
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  Speaker 2: totals when your quarterbacks run also.
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  Speaker 3: But way Shawn Parker was.
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  Speaker 2: Given the keys to the kingdom a little bit late
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  Speaker 2: in the season by a lot of people's estimation. And
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham especially always had kind of a prove it
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  Speaker 2: to me mentality when it came to well, any position,
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  Speaker 2: but when it came to is his ball distribution, his
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  Speaker 2: touch distribution, you almost don't get to in your first
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  Speaker 2: year like show up and just be yep, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: get the ball a bunch you have to represent in
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  Speaker 2: a four game sample a five game sample, a six
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  Speaker 2: game sample, you have to represent that you are reliable.
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  Speaker 2: And the number one thing is you can't fumble the ball.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta hold on to the football. And if you
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  Speaker 2: have any inkling of ball security issues during the preseason
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  Speaker 2: during camp, now it's gonna take you definitely six games
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  Speaker 2: before they really hand it to you reliably and consistently
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  Speaker 2: after that. The other thing to consider, oh see is yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's been Kyle Whittingham's mo but also Jason Beck. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't he didn't leave anything the mystery. His very first
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  Speaker 2: press conference he said, I like to see what I
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  Speaker 2: have and then and you know, design the offense. Design,
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  Speaker 2: you know, call plays around that, design an offense around
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Paraphrasing, of course. So that also
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  Speaker 2: suggests that the beginning of the season he wasn't sure
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  Speaker 2: who is who is number one running back was gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't know, and he probably didn't know until a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks in that hey was Shawn's that guy.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see if Kevin mcgiven.
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  Speaker 2: You've said a lot of other people said he's a
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  Speaker 2: similar mindset as a as an offensive coordinator, as a
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  Speaker 2: play caller, other than he he likes to rely on
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  Speaker 2: the past, probably a little bit more than Jason Beck does.
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  Speaker 2: But I will see what his mentality is. Does he
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  Speaker 2: already know who his guys are gonna be and lean
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  Speaker 2: on those guys right away or is he gonna let
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  Speaker 2: things play out like Jason Beck likes to do well.
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  Speaker 2: I think he also comes in with the luxury of
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  Speaker 2: being like, well, I know what I have in way
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  Speaker 2: Shawn Parker, because you can cut the film on of
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  Speaker 2: way Sean Parker in a Utah FOT Paul uniform and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this guy at this level, at this school has been excellent,
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  Speaker 2: and that changes all of the questions I'm about to ask.
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  Speaker 2: All right, you can do it on Twitter at Real
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  Speaker 2: OC Sports. You can weigh in on the text line. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I think people are more active on the text line.
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  Speaker 2: I have demonetized my my Twitter account. There's no like
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  Speaker 2: I don't have the check mark because I refuse to
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  Speaker 2: pay for it. I thought you were going to say
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  Speaker 2: you don't, you don't have the tip the tip link.
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  Speaker 2: I should put it all that all of us put
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  Speaker 2: on there, even though no one I have it up
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  Speaker 2: there as a joke. No one's ever tipped me I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna start putting a tip link on there, all right,
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  Speaker 2: But when I put up poll questions now they get
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  Speaker 2: seen by like fourteen people because I get apparently I'm
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  Speaker 2: not I'm not correctly handling algorithm manipulation. But in any case,
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  Speaker 2: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred, I
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  Speaker 2: have set some over unders for way Sean Parker specific
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  Speaker 2: The season is right around the corner. There are certain
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  Speaker 2: things that you got to do before camp. This is
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily one of them. But there's an interesting piece
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  Speaker 2: on Wasshan and his his performance from last year, his
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  Speaker 2: thoughts about his performance from last year in inks on
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  Speaker 2: KSL dot com. So I just I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: a good time to talk about Wasshan. We obviously had
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  Speaker 2: a good conversation with him down at Big twelve Media
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  Speaker 2: Days that is available at ESPN seven hundred sports dot com.
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  Speaker 2: You can find it in the on demand section of
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  Speaker 2: the ESPN seven hundred app. Was Shan, Lance, Holtzklaw, All
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  Speaker 2: these guys were really really interesting to talk to. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: with Wasyshan last year one forty nine for nine to
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  Speaker 2: eighty one and six touchdowns. That's rush stats. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: leave his receiving stats out for now one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty nine carries.
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  Speaker 3: I think most of us expect more.
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  Speaker 2: More from him than that, Okay, because he's more established
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  Speaker 2: here at the university, even though it is a new
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, and there's a couple of guys that are
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  Speaker 2: going to be campaigning and dividing those carries, and even
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  Speaker 2: though the offensive coordinator is not a guy who has
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  Speaker 2: as much of a reputation for indexing heavily to the
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  Speaker 2: run as the last coordinator had. And I think another
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  Speaker 2: thing that affects this very drastically for Utah and for
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  Speaker 2: was Shawn Parker specifically, is there's not certainty around the
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  Speaker 2: offensive line. In fact, there's a pretty heavy dose of
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  Speaker 2: uncertainty around the offensive line. Now, obviously the coaching staff
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  Speaker 2: knows more about what they've got than we do. Fall
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  Speaker 2: camp is going to let them, probably for a week
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  Speaker 2: or ten days, figure out a pecking order and a
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  Speaker 2: hierarchy of who starts where, and then they're just going
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  Speaker 2: to be like, all right, let's run our offense. And
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  Speaker 2: you start with a game where you will be able
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  Speaker 2: to run your offense. You'll be able to just kind
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  Speaker 2: of like vanilla basic principles. This is what our offense
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  Speaker 2: is the framework of our offense, and you're going to
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  Speaker 2: do your best to kind of put things in place
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  Speaker 2: and get a real competition sense of it. But as
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  Speaker 2: we always talk about, your best idea starts to take
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  Speaker 2: shape in week two, and then in week three beyond
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  Speaker 2: and then obviously beyond that. And you can't sleep on
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  Speaker 2: the week three opponent because that's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl for Utah State and it's not necessarily for
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  Speaker 2: the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of dynamics here.
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  Speaker 2: When you talk about setting a number for carries for
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  Speaker 2: way Sean Parker.
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  Speaker 3: That'll of the brothers. Oh see, don't sleep on it.
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  Speaker 2: I have set on. I looked at last year's stats
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  Speaker 2: right in the Big twelve Conference, and I took the
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  Speaker 2: I took the carries, the number of carries for the
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  Speaker 2: top five rushers in the conference, and then I averaged
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  Speaker 2: those out. Okay, and this is where my first over
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  Speaker 2: under number for Wasyshawn Parker.
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  Speaker 3: I think gets a little bit crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Because when you average out the top five carries the
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  Speaker 2: top five touches for rushing attempts.
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  Speaker 3: I then decided to take out a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I took out Connor Wegman because I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I I don't quarterback carries don't really factor into my comparisons.
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  Speaker 3: For Wasyshawn Parker right.
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  Speaker 2: LJ. Martin had two hundred and thirty six carries for
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  Speaker 2: BYU last year. That is a workload man. Cameron Dickie
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  Speaker 2: at Texas Tech had two hundred and nine touches. Dean
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  Speaker 2: con Honors at Houston had two hundred touches. You had
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  Speaker 2: three guys in the conference with over two hundred touches.
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  Speaker 2: Carson Hanson at Iowa State and Ralik Brown at Arizona
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  Speaker 2: State were about They were one eighty eight and one
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  Speaker 2: eighty six apiece. Joe Jackson at Kansas State at one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty nine, Texas Tech's second leading rusher, had
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  Speaker 2: more carries than way Shawn Parker did. Bryson Washington at
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  Speaker 2: Baylor had five more carries than way Shawn Parker did.
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  Speaker 2: So I give you context here because when we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about the expectation of a bell cow back, right, even
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  Speaker 2: if you're taking the average of the top five guys,
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  Speaker 2: that would be an increase of roughly fifty touches on
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  Speaker 2: the ground for way Shawn Parker over the course of
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  Speaker 2: the season. The actual it's one ninety seven. If you
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  Speaker 2: average out the top top five running backs in terms
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  Speaker 2: of their touches in the run game only, it's one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and ninety seven carries. Wasyshan had one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty nine last year. So I set my over under
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  Speaker 2: on way Shawn Parker carries at the University of Utah
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  Speaker 2: this season at one ninety six point five. Does he
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  Speaker 2: hit the average of the top five guys last year? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Or no?
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  Speaker 2: If you take the under, maybe not quite. That's still
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  Speaker 2: top ten in the conference. If you take the over,
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, yeah, that's really a bell cowback. Now, to
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  Speaker 2: keep adding context to this, you look at the guys
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  Speaker 2: who had more carries than him. LJ. Martin at BYU
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  Speaker 2: was the bell cowback. They had a really good backup
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  Speaker 2: when he was healthy. Their their second option in the
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  Speaker 2: running back room at BYU high quality when Shiona Muan
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  Speaker 2: company were healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Right, They also ran.
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  Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeyer a lot. Bear Bachmeyer had a lot of carries,
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  Speaker 2: but LJ. Martin was the offensive player of the year.
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  Speaker 2: He was the definitive cornerstone of a BYU offense last
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  Speaker 2: year and one of the better offenses, one of the
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  Speaker 2: better teams in the conference, had a trump card where
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  Speaker 2: they could just hand the ball to LJ. Martin. They
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  Speaker 2: had a pretty good offensive line, they had an elite
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  Speaker 2: running back and they said, all right, we'll trust you.
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  Speaker 2: Two hundred and thirty six times, he still averaged five
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  Speaker 2: and a half yards of carry. He ended up with
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  Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: On the ground.
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  Speaker 2: And where does he rank in the most carries in
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  Speaker 2: the conference last year? LJ was number one? He was
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  Speaker 2: number one, He was number one. Now it's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of carries. Now you look at Texas Tech. Texas Tech
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  Speaker 2: did not have last year except against Utah. They did
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  Speaker 2: not have a quarterback that they wanted to run the
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  Speaker 2: ball with a lot, right, So they split their carries
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  Speaker 2: between two running backs that combined ended up with on
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  Speaker 2: air math is always a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: They ended up with.
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  Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty three carries. And you said Dicky
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  Speaker 2: was over two hundred, right, Dicky was two nine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Son one hundred and fifty and one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: five for Jacoby Williams. Yeah, Okay, that both of those
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  Speaker 2: guys got more than way Sean that's both of them.
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  Speaker 2: They had two guys. Yeah, that's surprising. Dicky was quietly
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  Speaker 2: a really good offensive player for Texas Tech. Though I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I feel like he got he didn't get
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  Speaker 2: as much shine as as he should have, and he
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  Speaker 2: had like a two hundred something yard game even.
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  Speaker 3: He led the conference in rushing touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was a load last year, uh
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  Speaker 2: for Texas Tech. So that doesn't surprise me. It does
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  Speaker 2: surprise me that you said Jacoby Williams was the number two,
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  Speaker 2: that he got over one hundred and fifty carries as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they really leaned on the run. They leaned on the aggressively.
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  Speaker 2: And again they had kind of like two guys. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't give some carries to the quarterback. Let's have like
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  Speaker 2: an athletic tight end who does these end a round
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  Speaker 2: things where all other things being equal, in an ideal world,
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  Speaker 2: Utah's offense is gonna have some of that. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna. So this is why I'm asking the question
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  Speaker 2: about way Shaw Parker's carries, and I'm still setting it
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  Speaker 2: pretty high. He would be a top five carries offensive
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  Speaker 2: touches in the run game, specifically in last year's Big
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  Speaker 2: twelve and probably again in this year's Big twelve. If
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  Speaker 2: he's pushing two hundred carries. But you have not one
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  Speaker 2: but two quarterbacks who can run the ball. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: they're both gonna play quite a bit. That's the indication
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  Speaker 2: we got. That's what I saw and you saw in
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  Speaker 2: the in the media viewing sessions we got to see
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  Speaker 2: in spring. I expect them both to play quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: You have.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Bray, who is kind of the home run threat,
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  Speaker 2: thunder and lightning. He's the lightning I think in that package.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, you'll probably catch it a lot,
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  Speaker 2: a lot more than was Sean. But he's gonna run
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  Speaker 2: it quite a bit too. You've got the Chavez Soto
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  Speaker 2: kid who came in in the transfer portal, who they
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  Speaker 2: saw some things during spring that they really liked out
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  Speaker 2: of him. Right. Hunter Andrews is someone who's going to
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  Speaker 2: be involved in the run game. Do you remember just
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  Speaker 2: how many yards he would just he just ate up
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  Speaker 2: turf every time they handed it off to him last
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  Speaker 2: year before he was out for the season after a
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  Speaker 2: couple of games. I cannot wait to see Hunter Andrews
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  Speaker 2: for a full season. He had nine yards per rush
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  Speaker 2: last year now only thirteen, only thirteen touches in the
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  Speaker 2: run game. But that's something they're going to use. So
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  Speaker 2: I think even though I'm the one who set the number,
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  Speaker 2: eight seven seven three five to three zero seven hundred,
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  Speaker 2: Morgan on the text line says over on everything, okay,
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  Speaker 2: But I think that he also says he's got extreme
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  Speaker 2: Crimson goggles, which we appreciate from Morgan from Eagle Mountain,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, So so you know, holding out the
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  Speaker 2: flashing the U in Utah County shout out to you, Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm taking the under one carries for Wasshan Parker
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  Speaker 2: because I think that Utah ideally wants to spread the
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  Speaker 2: love around a little bit. And I think that unlike,
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  Speaker 2: for example, Texas Tech in the red zone when they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to punch it in, they were giving it to
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  Speaker 2: one of those two running backs, Utah when they're in
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  Speaker 2: the red zone and wanting to punch it in. Let's
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  Speaker 2: say it's you know, first and goal from the nine
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  Speaker 2: yard line and it takes you three plays to get
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  Speaker 2: to the end zone. I think was Shan probably gets one.
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  Speaker 2: I think Bird probably gets one. I think Hunter Andrews
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  Speaker 2: probably gets one. It's not just like, Okay, let's let's
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  Speaker 2: pound this in with Wasshan over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I think now he's a hammer, and he's a guy
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  Speaker 2: who's willing to be able to do that for you.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't want to put words in Kevin mcgibbn's mouth,
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  Speaker 2: but I think the versatility of running options for the
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  Speaker 2: University of Utah is going to mean that way Shan
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  Speaker 2: gets fewer than that top five average from last year,
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  Speaker 2: fewer than one hundred and ninety six and a half carries,
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  Speaker 2: which would put him outside of the top five in
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five touches total. I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it would be a good bet to say,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: for entertainment purposes only, of course, to say he's going
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: to get more than he did last year, though I
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: think I think it's absolutely I thought about setting in
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: it one forty nine and a half just to say
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: is he going to get more? But it's too easy.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: If he's healthy, he's definitely going to get more than
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: he did last year. I would say at least one
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy. Don't you think I would think so?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: And by the way, again, I like to add context
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: all these things. One hundred and seventy touches last year
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: in the run game would would have put him number
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: seven in the conference, So right in the middle basically,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: if you're talking about about starting running starting running backs. Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: so I'm taking the under on the overall carries for
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: was Sean Parker.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say touches.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say carries because he's gonna get some touches
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: in the past game. Again, we don't know exactly how
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that's gonna look like. The article at KSL dot com
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and a lot of the conversations people were having with Wasshan,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: including us go listen to it at ESPN seven Art
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Sports dot Com was like, man, you were so close
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to one thousand yards. He's not shy about saying he
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: wants to break a thousand yards. He is the type
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of running back who's talented enough to hit one hundred
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: to hit a thousand yards. I think that a thousand
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: yards is a foregone conclusion for a healthy was Sean Parker.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I think that there's no doubt about it. That's assuming
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a couple of things right. Last year, he had six
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: point six yards per carry, I think that that number
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: goes down a little bit this year, not because of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: way Sean, but because the offensive line that Utah brings
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: back this year is newcomers, is new starters. I gotta
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: give credit where it's due to the Alex Erison's of
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the world and the uh the Zaraway Williams of the world.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Those guys have a lot of reps.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: But it's a different animal when you're a first time starter,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: when you're an every down type player, and there's position
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: battles we're gonna be talking about as camp approaches and
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: during camp. On this offensive line, I would imagine that
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: we get probably six plus different starting combinations for the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: offensive line, maybe five. I don't think that it's gonna
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: be set in stone at all.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Is that your next over under?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I should have that. Just that just popped into my bets.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned in August for that overunder. But I think
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: that's six point six yards of carry. Part of that
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: is the more carries you have, the more you regress
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to the mean. Right, Yeah, you're you're If you're leading
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the conference in touches on the ground and you've got
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: five yards plus, that is stellar.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: That is incredible.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: If you're leading the conference in carries and you're still
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: over six yards.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: That's bananas. That's like, that's other worldly.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: If he's got two hundred yards or excuse me, two
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: hundred touches at six yards of carry, that's a big
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: year for wy Shawn Parker. It's a massive year for
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: was Shawn Parker. It's a massive year for the Utah offense.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: So I decided to cut it and kind of stick
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: in the middle here. So let's assume that he's like
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: at Washington State he was five point four yards of carry,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: At Utah he was six point six yards of carrying.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: If we kind of even it out and we just
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: round it to five point nine yards per carry, and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: we assume that he's gonna be somewhere between one forty
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: nine fifty touches on the ground and one hundred and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: ninety six touches on the ground.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Because I'm making the under.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Right and I go with something like James said, like
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy touches, Are we comfortable with making
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that our estimate?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Way Sean Parker?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And if he so at five point nine yards per carry,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy carries is how many yards is
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that for the season? Well, I want you to do
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the math in your head. It puts him just over
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you had your phone out, I thought you were. I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: thought you had your calculator out. I did. I was
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: lying too, you should So one hundred and seventy touches
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: at five point nine is one thousand and three yards
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: just over it. Wow that I would have guessed that
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: many yards per carry, and one seventy is not a
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: small amount of touches.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Not a small man carry seven.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I would have thought that would have been like eleven hundred,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: twelve hundred yards. That's wow. So okay, So I just
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: accidentally came up with the ideal. You know baseline, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: just carries, and you did with with the yards per carry. Well,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and this is this is why doing the over unders
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: for me is so much fun because you could kind
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: of plug him in and be like, all right, is
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: that realistic? And you do it based on precedent for
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the player. You do it based on precedent in the conference,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: precedent with the offense, precedent with you know what we
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: know about certain people around this individual, right, And then
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you're like, cause, if I said, okay, he's going to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: get one hundred and seventy touches and he's gonna have
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: six point six yards per carry, just like he did
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: last year. Let's look at that one hundred and seventy
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: touches times six point six, that's an eleven hundred yard season.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: That's eleven twenty two. Yeah, that's that's now. Now that's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: we're talking about him being a first team All Conference
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: running back. That puts him where Cameron Dickey was last
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: year from Texas Tech as the number two rusher in
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the conference. So if he could maintain his average, by
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the way, the best average for like action will Bell
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: cow type backs or consistent running backs the right amount
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of sample size in the conference, the best average was
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Releak Brown, who had one hundred and eighty six attempts,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: so way up there in attempts, and he had six
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: point one yards per carry. He was He was a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: beast for Arizona State last year, and it was a
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: reason why there was so much hype about them, along
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: with Sam Lovett, so much hype about them being able
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to repeat as conference champions because they lost Cam Skataboo.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: But Asu was like, we brought in another guy who's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: really good too, and he he showed it last year
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: for ASU, even though they did worse than what they
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: would have wanted. And by the way, Leak Brown gets
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to leave Arizona State with a pretty serious gripe about
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: this stat. Okay, one hundred and eighty six touches, six
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: yard average, eleven forty total yards. How many touchdowns do
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: you think Leak Brown had for Arizona State last year? Okay,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: so based on your tone, I feel like it's less
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: than you'd expect. But I'm just gonna base just on
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: those numbers. I would's that's a double digit touchdown season.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: He had fast ten. Yeah, that's four touchdowns. That's twenty
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: twenty four Utah rushing touchdowns. Like that's wow. He had
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: four touchdowns. Releak Brown had four touchdowns. Now back to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: way Sean Parker. This is another over under I want
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: to set before we get to Brian Duncith, who's going
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to talk a little soccer with us. We'll recap the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: World Cup, we'll discuss RSL's return to action MLS action.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I should say they had their international friendly against Burnley
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: FC last week, but this is where it counts again
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: for the Claret and Colebalt.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: But I know you're.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Excited about it because you're a newly minted actual soccer fan.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I graduated from being a casual to like an actual Yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I'm hardcore, but but you're real. I dare not put
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: myself in the category of hardcore supporter, all right. I'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: not playing drums and standing up the whole game. You're
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: not Andy Larson. I'm not Andy Blarson, all right. So
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: back to the touchdown total. This is ultimately this is
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: probably the most important of the totals for way Sean Parker.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I know for him, the over a thousand yards thing
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: is that something that matters a lot for Utah football tuddies.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: That's what matters.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: How many trips to the end zone do you have
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: when you get down in the red zone?
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: What is your percentage? Well, it's really good.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: If you're good at running the football, you have to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: punch it in. Yeah, And I would me personally to OC.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I would prefer my Bell Cow running back to have
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: one hundred yards on the season and like ten touchdowns,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: which is obviously not ever gonna happen. Then have a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: guy then have a Releak Brown type season. Almost twelve
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: hundred yards and have four touchdowns, four touchdowns, touchdowns or
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: what matters? The yards don't matter. There's a lot of
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: guys empty calories right, a bunch of yards and they
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: don't get in the end zone. And sometimes it's their fault,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and sometimes it's the fault of the offensive coordinator or
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the offensive scheme or something else taking the ball out
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of the hands of kind.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Like that when you're near the goal line.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But last year twenty twenty five, Cameron Dickey has already mentioned,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: had fourteen rushing touchdowns to lead the conference in rushing touchdowns.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: LJ.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Martin, the offensive player of the year from BYU, he
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: had twelve. Connor Wegman, the Houston quarterback, had eleven. Bear
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Bachmeyer had eleven. Is this right? Yes?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Nickarry Rodgers had eleven for Utah.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the touchdown goal line guy. Shout out
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to nickcarry Rogers. Devin dan Pierre had ten, Bird Fickland
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: had ten. Yeah, that was that's a banana's stat with
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Bird fick So thirty one rushing touchdowns for the University
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: of Utah between those three players, between your running back
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: in the red zone basically and two quarterbacks, how much
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: how many did you already say any Washan had? Way
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Shan had six six rushing wasy Shan had six rushing touchdowns.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: He also had three receiving touchdowns. If you go back
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to his Washington State days, he had a handful of
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns there as well. He had four rushing touchdowns there.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: So career wise, he has scored ten rushing touchdowns. Nine
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and a half is the number? Does he get double
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: digit rushing touchdowns or not? That is my whole question
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: for way Shawn Parker. The thousand yard game, the number
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: of touches he actually gets in the run game. That's
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: more of a team question than a way Shan question
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. And then does he get in the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: end zone ten times? Does he join Devin Damp, does
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: he join Bird Fickland? Does he join the Nacarry Rodgers?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Are these the types of numbers that we could expect
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: from Wasyshaun Parker. You're not a bell cow back if
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: you don't have ten touchdowns like Relik Brown was. Take
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Brown was their bell cow down there at Arizona State.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: He didn't have ten touchdowns. That was an injustice done
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: to releak Brown. That that is something that's an asterisk
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that takes away from what he accomplished as an individual.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Big guy, by the way, Like he's bigger than Wasyshaun Parker.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken like that, you would think that
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: he would have.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Been their red zone.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Let's punch it in guy too. Yeah, realik Brown, he's
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a big boy. He's he's at Texas now, Oh okay,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I realize he's still at eligibility. He's two hundred pounds,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: so not that much bigger. But like was he was
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: he tall or something? He's a he's similar build. He's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: actually not bad. I must have been picturing someone else
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: when I said when I was thinking about him, Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: we'like Brown. Wow. At Texas he's listed at one ninety three,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: so maybe they trimmed him up a little bit. Maybe
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: he's so he's not as big as I as I
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: was picturing someone else. All Right, we gotta take a
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: break here. Those are the over runners. I'm sitting nine
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and a half. Does he get double digit touchdowns? Does
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: he get over a thousand yards? Does he average top
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: five and carries for the season. Is he gonna be
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: one of those types of backs for the University of
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Utah Wayshawn Parker good article at KSL dot com talking
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: about how he feels like he let people down. Wayshawn,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you didn't, but I think he is a much bigger
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: part of the offense this year for the University of Utah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to Donny next.
• 31:55
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• 31:57
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• 32:00
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• 32:07
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• 32:10
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• 32:19
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• 32:21
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• 32:26
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• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Wow, I'm fantastic.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Man, it's been a while. I hear you might have
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: been converted full time now into an aficionado after twenty
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: years of you and I know in one another.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Ficionado might be a bit of a stretch, but I am.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I have found a love for soccer through the World Cup.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Through and this might make sense, it might not. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: think through watching more hockey and the way that those
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: sports find some similarities and some translation when it comes
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: to setting up goals and the movement of the puck
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: versus the movement of the ball, I think, yeah, that
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I have become a real fan of soccer. Like it's
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: not oh, this is on, I'm going to change it
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to something else. It's like, wow, let me see how
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: this thing plays out. And yes, shamelessly, the World Cup
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: did it for me. But it feels good to be here.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Dunny, Well, I'm glad. I'm glad. I'd give you a
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: big old bear claw hug if I could. But yeah, listen,
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: that was that was the part of all of this
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: at the moment that you know, for us, I always
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: equated soccer soccer players in that kind of category of
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: like punk music and skateboarding where they kind of always
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: had their lanes and they were going to run independent
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: upon any of the you know, the conversations that surrounded
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: the quote unquote major sports in the United States. But
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: I think once we knew that the US was going
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: to be hosting in conjunction with Mexico and Canada, with
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: all due respect, the World Cup, what I kept saying
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: to you and a lot of other people was that
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: this was an opportunity to kind of take a hold
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: of the emotion that we as kind of US sports
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: fans have and redirect it into the Summer Olympics, the
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: Winter Olympics, and then understanding that, you know, showcasing this
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: type of tournament in the United States take away, you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: all the conversations. I'm not naive to the costs associated
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: with it. It was still an amazing product. And having
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: been a part of the World Cup in Mexico up
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: until the game I did with France in the round
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: of sixteen over in Philadelphia, Man, you could really feel
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: the power of what this World Cup meant to the
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: fans around the world and specific to the individual markets
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: that were lucky enough to host games.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really neat to see, not just the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: games themselves, but exactly what you're talking about, the fact
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that these cities got to kind of showcase who they
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: are their communities to the rest of the world, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the fact that you know, these fans from all over
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: the world descended upon in some cases like kind of
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: random spots like Kansas City is not a Kansas City
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: is not a place all respect to Kansas City. Kansas
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: City is not a place that if you're living in Germany,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: or you're an English person or you're someone from Argentina,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it's not going to be your first destination, you know
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: what I mean. But when in Salt Lake is that
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: way too. I wish we had an opportunity to host
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: some World Cup games because, like some of those other places,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: people would have been blown away by the reception they got,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: by the beauty of the surroundings all that kind of stuff.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: But it was it was a very much of a
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: feel good thing.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Well, so, I guess because we're already talking to World Cup,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: we could stay on it for a second. The the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: showing was what I thought, like, I'm not a genius here,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: but the predictive model we put out there was like, yeah,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: they'll probably make it to the elimination rounds. I got
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit more optimist I think when they won
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the group but I don't know that they make it
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: out of the round of sixteen. I don't know if
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: this is realistically a contender. I think some of us
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: changed our expectations at least a little during pool play,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: but you ended up out where a lot of people
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: thought you would be out. The manner in which you
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: lost to Belgium was hurtful for some people. The balligan
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: controversy beforehand, I think soured some folks on the whole thing.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: But this is where we sort of expected.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Tmosa to be in. Some of us expected Tmosa to
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: be here.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Did they overperform, underperform, or just perform?
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: For Dunny, I would say that they overperformed in the
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: group stage, but then they ended up performing as expected.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: And listen, we do this thing where we talk about favorites.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: So the United States was never going to be a favorite.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: They were going to have a huge opportunity based on
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: the schedule, based on the host the hosting apparatus, like
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: we saw with Mexico and Canada, that they were going
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: to have the opportunity to be pretty comfortable, not have
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: to have a crazy amount of travel, and with the
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: expanded format, get an extra day or two in terms
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: of rest and recuperation versus what we saw on Tatar.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: Are we disappointed. I don't think a disappoint is the
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: right word for me in particular. I think what we
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: realize is that this idea of development, this idea of
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: making the game more accessible, this idea of continuing the
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: education component from the youth level, from the coaches, all
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: the way up to the highest level. You know, domestic manager,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: American manager, if you will, North American manager, if you will,
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: that all these things are important. But in the midst
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: of all of this, and having been around Marico Pochatino
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: and the usman's national team for the past three and
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: a half years, I'll be back with them in September
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: and October over on Turner, you know, there's still a
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know if mit Chi's most the right kind
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: of way to describe it, but there still is like
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: this internal kind of battle, the combativeness. I call it
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: the dune. Step three is the joke that we have
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: Max and I on the call, and I'm sorry the
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: win thacking up down here I just got to southern California.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: You know. The but the other but the other part
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: of this is that you know, there's a game within
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: the game, and you know, we'll use Argentina as a
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: perfect example the game within the game. In the final
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: ten minutes against England, they were able to manipulate into
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: their favor. Now, they never were able to do the
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: same against Spain because Spain was kind of a different level.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: There were just one step higher. And you know, all
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: the whispers and conversations surrounding whatever is happening with Argentina
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: right now, you know, we'll continue to continue to hover
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: around because we're talking about Lionel Messi. We're talking about
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: Argentina and the potential win back to back COPEA Medicas
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: and back to back World Cup trophies.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: But the differentiator sometimes is, you know, the way you
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: approach a game, and it's different. And I'm not saying
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: ones better than the other, They're just different. So back
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: to the US, listen, I think there's a lot to
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: continue to build upon. I think the disappointment always egotistically
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: hovers around. Hold on a second, why is the United
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: States not a major player? Why are they not a
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: quote unquote dominant force in world football, and the reality
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: is that we still have steps to go. And having
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: been a guy that joined the league in nineteen ninety
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: seven and been a guy that has watched you know,
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: four or five different groups of people pontificate the right
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: way for the US to continue to build that one
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: day they're going to win the World Cup. I mean,
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of nations with a lot of infrastructure
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: that fall really really short of lifting that World Cup
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: trophy and have much more experience in the US. So
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: while we're still in our infancy, I think it's it's
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: not I think it's naive not to suggest that there's
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: still plenty of room for growth, both on and off
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: the field.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I have appreciated the way that our collect of disappointment
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: has made people look at the system that builds toward
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: a US men's national team and question whether or not
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: we're doing it right. I think that that conversation spills
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to all little league sports, all club sports right now,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and I think that the World Cup was a great
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: way to start that conversation because beyond just being able
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to compete with England, there's a lot of issues. You're
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: more aware of this than I am. I'm sure your
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: your kids are in that age. You've got boys that,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, are in this world, right, my.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: Man, I spent twenty seven thousand dollars on youth soccer
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: alone last year.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: So that's not a real number. Hold on, hold on, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: that cannot be a real number.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, when you talk about all three boys, you talk
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: about club soccer, you talk about travel, you talk about
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: from gas to food, to a hotel to you know,
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: rental cars, to ubers to all that stuff. Yeah, it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: it's and my kids are going to be seventeen in
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: two weeks, fourteen and eight.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: So yeah, it is unfortunately real number. So when people
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: and listen, I've got friends that have, you know, kids
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: in cheer. I have friends that have you know, volleyball
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: guys that you know, friends that are in baseball, friends
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: that you know all of this. It's it's not a
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: it's not a conversation cheerpoint unique to just soccer. And
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: the reality is, let's just dumb it down. Who's paying
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: for it, who's paying for the coaches, who's paying for
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: the referees, who's paying for the field time? I mean,
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: you know, my kids go to my boys go to
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Skyline and they can't even get on a soccer field
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: anymore without the idea of having to jump a fence
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: because you know, everything's been closed off, everything has been
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: made more difficult. That's not a Skyline problem, that's more
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: of a general US problem. But the access, the ability
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: all of these things, there's there's major challenges. And to
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: suggest that it can all be solved, you know with
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: one simple conversation, I think is incredibly naive. Now does
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: there need to be help and a collective understanding and
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: approach of you know, how can we how can we
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: start this and how can we create at younger ages
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: and hope that maybe two or three cycles down the line,
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: we're looking at the next group of Western mckenneis and
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Christian Pallistics and Tyler Adams and you know, Chris Richards,
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: you know that's the idea. But I'm also young enough
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: to remember that when we failed to qualify for twenty eighteen,
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: everybody said burn US soccer to the ground. They did
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: so probably two to three times if we're being honest.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: And still there's a great cycle of players coming through
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: and RSL's you know, lucky enough to be able to
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: watch the Xavi Ragoso and Diego Luna real time and
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: talk about you know, young kids that are thriving quote
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: unquote in an American system with hopes and ideas and
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: dreams of maybe one day plan on Tuesday and Wednesday
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: nights in the Champions League over in Europe.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Well, you just mentioned r RSL guys, So I'll use
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that as an opportunity to transition to a return to
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: MLS play tonight for URSL in Los Angeles against LAFC.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Headed into the international break, third in the Western Conference standings,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: they showed good form the other night at America First
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Field against Burnley in a friendly. What do you expect
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: from this second half? What do you expect from this
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: team after the break?
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah? My hope is and again they did get a
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: couple of scrimmages in and Burnley probably being the most
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: high profile both on and off the field. My hope
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: is that and talking to Pablo and talking to the
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: coaching staff that you know, they were able to dissect
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: and digest and prepare for everything that they thought wasn't
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: one perfect and start thinking about defensive shape and movement
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: and reliance upon Hafacker, brawl and all of these things
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: that come into play and then dial in the details
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: because a lot of times, as you know in any sport,
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: you know in certain name, here the devil is in
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: the details. So I think for the group, first and foremost,
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: you got to pick up right where you left off,
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: and that means a result gown to be the most stadium
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: tonight against lifc Ellie.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I see it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: Coming off a three nil win in ul traffico the
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: other day in the return to play, the MLS will
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: take it from here commercialism and absolutely smashed the Galaxy
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: and did so where the Galaxy seemed comfortable and in
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: control with a lot of possession. But for real, felt Lake, listen,
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: I think it's you've got to start with a monster mentality,
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: and then I think it's about the details, both on
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: and off the ball and the evolution of this team.
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: What I would love to see is them being more
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: comfortable with leads, and by that I mean when they
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: do get the lead, not feeling as though they have
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: to be Patient's not the right word, that they have
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: to feel comfortable in. Okay, that's probably a little too risky.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Let's go back. Let's play out the opposite side. That's
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: the evolution of this group. I want to see swagger.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: I want to see confidence. I want to see this
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: group say, hold on a second, nobody respects us. We
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: love being the underdog. We love kind of living in
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: the moment of Jason christ and Garth log Away in
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: two thousand andine MLS Cup champions you know, runs to
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: an US up and Cup final, runs to a Confee
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: Cap Champions League Final, all of that, That's what I
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: want to see. The continuation. And by the way, to
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: your point, you know, three consecutive results heading into the break,
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: I think kind of made everyone feel good. But now
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: I just still think there's work to be done on
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: the roster, and first and foremost the work to be
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: done tonight before heading up to Portland at the weekend.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: How much do you think being left off the US
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: men's national team affects Diego Luna especially?
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. You know, I've tried, and I'm
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: not trying to be flipped and not trying to answer
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: your question. Listen, I think Diego has got a monster mentality.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: He has bet on himself when nobody else has believed
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: in him. I've got at spot for Diego. I think
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: the world of him. I've been lucky enough to spend
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: a couple of moments and have some conversations with him
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: that just really, you know, reaffirms my opinion of what
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: I had before to where he is now. Listen, I
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: think we all got to be incredibly disappointed, right because
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: there's so many moments where I was looking at that
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: game and thinking, God, having a guy like Diego pop
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: on to the final twenty minutes would have been an
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: incredible burst of energy. I was never given any clear,
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: clarified reason for why he did not make the team,
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: especially because he was so utilized in the build up
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: to the World Cup. But now from the conversations I've
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: had around the team to be able to hear where
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: he's at, seems like he's incredibly focused. He's vowed in,
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: and much like what happened when he missed out on
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: the Olympics, he's going to use his motivation. But I mean,
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: let's be honest, it really does suck that he missed
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: out on this opportunity to represent the US inside the US.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does suck, And I look forward to the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: next four years from now when he's playing on the
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Iberian peninsula, and I think will be a key part
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: of that US men's national team because it feels like
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: an eventuality that he ends up breaking through in the
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: next cycle.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Is that a fair opinion?
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would hope, So, I would hope. So, I mean,
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: US Soccer has a huge decision on their hands. Former
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: LAFC head coach Steve Tarundelo, who walked away from the club.
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: He was just named the Olympic team head coach. So
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: that's step one. Step two is you've got to figure
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: out this dynamic with Marisa Pactino. And I thought that
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: he would immediately leave and take whatever high profile job
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: was out there, And it seems like maybe the goalposts
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: moved just.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: But in any way, I could see a guy like
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: maybe bj Callahan at national FC as an American head
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: coach that I think they would do him really, really
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: well with the national team.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll wait to see how the big picture stuff
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: plays out tonight. We just hope for an RSSEL result
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: against LAFC. Donny appreciate your time and your expertise, my friend.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Thank you as always brother, good shot with you.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: As Brian done Seth one of the best in the business.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: We're lucky to have him here in Salt Lake City.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And look no further than when they're having national soccer conversations,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: when they're looking for national voices to call World Cup
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: games and things like that. Our guy who lives right
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: up there in Olympus Cove, who's got kids in those
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: skyline boundaries like he is on that stuff. We're very,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: very lucky to have Donny as one of the voices
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: of soccer here in our market. I heard him on
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: ESPN Radio given World Cup insight during World Cup play,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: which was a first for me. They typically stay with
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: their own. ESPN typically says we got we got guys
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: for everything. I mean, they got a leski. They got
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot less guys now with all
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: these layoffs, but it was it was cool to hear
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Dunny even as you know, doing what he does on
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: our show on the national shows as well. So yeah,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: shout out to him, all right. Was it foreshadowing or
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: was it anonymous mistake? An announcement for an introductory press
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: conference and Lebron James heading somewhere question mark. We'll get
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: to that in the Sean O'Connell show. ESPN seven m.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: You were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Murdoch Hunting Studio of ESPN seven hundred.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: And sometimes things happen in sports, in news, in life,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: and you watch them happen and you go, oh, man,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that's a bummer. Somebody's losing their job over that. Somebody's
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: getting fired over that. Right, Like we've seen this. You
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: go to a concert and the pyrotechnic display fires off
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: at the wrong time, there's some sort of malfunction with
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the platform that elevates the artists onto the stage or
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: lowers them out of the rafters or whatever it is,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: and you're like, man, somebody's getting fired over that. That sucks.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: And ultimately, in most of these situations you just move on.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Things continue, Right, somebody's getting fired over this one. The
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Miami Heat, you heard about this in James's update. The
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Miami Heat posted a link to a scheduled live stream
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: for July twenty seventh, so five days from now, on
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: its YouTube channel, and the title was Lebron James Introductory
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: press Conference. They're just predicting the future, O see that's
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: now going on now. A Miami Heat spokesperson said that
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: was just an error, because of course it's all hands
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: on deck. We were preparing, we were getting ready for
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the potential outcome where we have to schedule this press conference,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: and we're like, you know, making sure that the moving
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: parts are going to work, that they're there. The social
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: media department, which there's like you know, there's your team president,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: there's your ownership, there's your coach, there's your social media.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: People in NBA circles are usually really really sharp, oftentimes younger,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: oftentimes looking for the edge, looking for the thing that'll differentiate,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: looking for the thing that'll make them unique in the
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: NBA circle. Right, it's a it's a job for creatives
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: who are also.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: A little bit tech savvy.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: But the hey, this was just totally an accident feels
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: thin to me. And the reason it feels thin is
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: because everyone who works at that level in an NBA
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: social media department, where it's your job to schedule something
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: like this, knows what a zoomlink is about, knows how
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: to post something to the to the YouTube live. It's
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: probably not the redundancy the double checking that you need
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: to have.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: This If this is a.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Spoiler on Lebron has already made a decision, wants to
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: announce it on his own terms, and some intern in
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Miami leaked to the news first. That sucks. And if
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: you're somebody like Sham's Charanya who, it's like your whole
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: thing is getting these scoops and being first, and and
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: the world finds out because of an actual accident, someone
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: just being like, yep, yep, we're doing this on the
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: twenty seventh. Oh darn it. I wasn't supposed to put
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: that up yet. It's probably some poor sap sitting at
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: a desk being like, man, I'm gonna get out ahead
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: of this. So when Boss comes to me and says, hey,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: we need to make sure we have a link for
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: the live presser, I can say, already done, Boss, you
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: don't even have to ask me. And guess what did
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: it without you asking? Guess what? I'm not gonna forget
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: to hit live because I scheduled it. Scheduled it already there.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Oh crap, that's it's it's public schedule. People can see
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: that on the calendar. That's out that's out there. Oh no,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: so here's another layer to the story. Oh see, I'm
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: not sure you know about this. I'm not sure he
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: came across this. I came across it this morning. They
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: apparently just hired a social media guy in like May. Okay,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: so this guy might and you know, there's no confirmation,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: but this guy that made this mistake air quotes mistake
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: might have just been hired. Can you imagine you probably moved. Yeah,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: you're getting settled down on South Beach. You're you're not
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: living in a fancy place as the social media person.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: It's an expensive city. You got your two bedroom high
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: rise condo that you're renting, maybe a studio, and you're
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: just like, all right, I'm feeling good, baby, NBA team.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of heat on us South Beach.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Let's go, Oh, what's that? I'm fired? I hope, I
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: hope not keeps his job. I never wish for a
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: person to lose job. It's a scary, terrible thing when
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: you lose your job. This one of those things though,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: when you look at it, right, when you see the story,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: you're just like, oh, someone's getting fired over that Fourth
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: of July fireworks all lit at one time and barge explodes.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, somebody's Yeah, somebody's losing their job over this.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I hope this is a forgivable one, though, because especially
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: if this is like they've been told by by Rich
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Paul or whichever one of Lebron's people, Lebron themselves say, hey,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: we're I'm going with you guys where you know it's
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna announce it. We're announcing a couple of days. Yeah, sure,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Monday's great for the press conference. Hopefully if that's the case,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: it's forgivable. They're like, okay, fine, at least at least
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: you didn't put it out there, and then we gotta
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: have egg on our face because he's going somewhere else.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: But we shall see. This could be I've also heard
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I heard Dan Patrick hypothesize that maybe he's not going
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: to Miami, but he was like, it's curious that the
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: date they felt comfortable putting July twenty seventh as the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: date for this, Like, have teams been told that he's
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna know by then?
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Is that what's going on here? Maybe?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: But more likely is they have been told, yeah, he's coming,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: that that's when I'm ready to make the announcement. Because
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: it is there is a specific date on there. There
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: is also the possibility that the team was just like, hey,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: get ready, we might have to like make sure you know,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: especially if it's a new social media guy. Yeah, like
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: you said, make sure you know how to do the
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: live length thing. It was just like, I need to
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: put a date on this. I'll put the twenty seventh
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: because that makes sense. I guess even though that's a Monday,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: isn't it a Monday? Yeah, that's next Monday. Something to
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: keep in mind though, Ocie is the Chalms and Chris
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Haynes is one of the one of the NBA insiders
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: who breaks who's been breaking free agent news and trade news.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Those guys break the news and then it's usually a
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: couple of days, maybe a week, maybe longer before we
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: actually have the team the team, he's signed the papers
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: and okay, now we can officially introduce you in a
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: press conference. So if July twenty seventh is real, like, okay,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: we expect to be able to have the press conference
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: for Lebron as the Miami Heat on July twenty seventh.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I would expect the news to come out.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow that he's decided to sign with him, because you
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: need time for him to actually sign. The dotted line.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: You need time to you know, get him to Miami,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: schedule everything. There's logistics to having an introduction press conference
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: that I'm not completely aware of, but I assume that
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: takes a little bit of time. Well, we'll getting There's
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: that hard because you're just private plane, right can take
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: off in land whenever the bleep they wanted to like,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: but you're right there are there are actually maybe there's
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: personnel or on vacation that they're like, you need to
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: be here for the press conference they got to get into,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: so you got to You gotta give a couple of
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: days a buffer. At least. There are certainly some layers
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: to the onion here. I hope, I hope that. First
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: of all, I hope he doesn't end up in Miami.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: To me, that's the least interesting of the possible destinations
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: for him. I know Lebron is not making this decision
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: based on my preferences here, but him going back to
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Miami does not interest me. Eight seven seven three five
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred Do you care?
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: Is there?
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Are you like? I want?
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to see Lebron end up in
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Cleveland with Donovan Mitchell closing it out at the place
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: where it all started for him. I've settled on that
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: being the most desirable outcome here, since he's not going
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: to try and elevate the Utah Jazz to championship caliber,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Like all right, fine, go to Cleveland then Miami. It's
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: like we've seen that before. I also don't like the
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: idea so Yannis. One of the things that I really
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: liked about Giannis when he was in Milwaukee is Yannis
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: stayed out of the billionaire boys club, like, hey, team
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: up with me, Team up with me, team up with me.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: He's a competitor who wanted to beat the guys that
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: were all squatting up, like, let's get an all star
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: team put together. Now he had he had some good support,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: but it was very clearly he was this alpha, alpha,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: alpha player, and everyone else was supporting cast. It didn't
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: seem much fired at Chris Middleton. Geez, yeah, I mean
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Drew Holliday again calling in angry. Now they can and
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: because neither of them can even make a remote case
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Brook Lopez splash Mountain ever heard of him, that they
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: were on the same level as Jiannis was so like,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I like that about Giannis, right, I think there's even
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: responses of him being asked about it, where he was
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I don't I don't need that. I
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: want to beat everybody, and you don't. You don't like
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Lebronis you know you don't like that? I don't like
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: this ability? Does it suggests that they're dating?
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: I don't like.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Also, if he ends up in Miami, which I told you,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I've always been admire of Miami, so I would be
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: happy with it. That's would be my personal preferred destination
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: for him. But that aside, if he ends up in Miami,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: like Dwayne Wade, why are you helping the team you
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: played for? Do you have an ownership stake in the Heat? No,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you have an ownership steak in.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: The Utah Jazz. Come on, man, it's a trail.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Anyway?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: To the social media intern slash whoever who accidentally posted
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: that link, because it either was just a complete hypothetical
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: fake thing, or it was a spoiler alert that nobody
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: in your organization wanted. I hope you keep your job. Sincerely,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to and I do think
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: this means that Lebron James is actually going to Miami,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: but we'll see all right, I got to take another break,
• 1:01:02
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  Speaker 2: In a world keep side pushing me all right? Got
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: a little official conference email from the Big Twelve here
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: on the Sean O'Connell Show. The Big Twelve Conference has
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: their twenty twenty five twenty twenty six Athlete of the
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Year awards, and each institution puts a female nominee out
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: and a male nominee out for their Athlete of the Year.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Probably no surprise here that the nominations coming from the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: University of Utah are avery nef Utah Gymnast who finished
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six season ranked number three nationally in
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: the all around, tied for number eight on vault, eleven
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: on beam, twelve on bars. She won the all around
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: title and the beam title in Corvallis. She actually beat
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Jordan Childs, an Olympian, in the all round to qualify
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: for the NCAA Championships. Just an incredible representative of Utah athletics.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Avery nef is the Utah Female Athlete of the Year nominee. Again,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: You're you're trying to You're putting these people up against
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: the rest of the conference, against the BYU nominee, against
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: the Baylor nominee, against the Texas Tech. They're being released alphabetically,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: so I guess that means West Virginia is the only
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: one that does not have their nominees public. Yet Baylor
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: and BYU and all of those B schools were first.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: The male Athlete of the Year and I think probably
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Utah's best chance to win it here is Spencer Fano.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Why do I think he's Utah's best chance to win
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: it on the big twelve front? I could be brain
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: farting here. I don't think I am like last year.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get a Big twelve Athlete of
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: the Year when you've got Colorado with a Heisman Trophy winner.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: But if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. This
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: is one of those things you probably can tell. I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: didn't put a ton of forethought into as to make
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: a bold claim. But I don't remember any other Big
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: twelve athlete winning winning the Big National award. Did a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Jada Bonsa win Player of the Year in college basketball?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: He did not. He didn't win Big Twelve Player of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: the Year either.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: He was I believe Freshman of the Year maybe Okay,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: nationally he was certainly in the Big twelve, I think,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: and again, please let me know. Seven seven three five
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred. But the Outland Trophy is a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: very prestigious honor. It's not quite a Heisman Trophy, right,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: It's up there, though, it's on that next tier with
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: the Davey O'Brien and the Doak Walker and all that stuff.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: And Spencer Fano was a unanimous First team All America.
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  Speaker 2: He won the Outland Trophy. He was the Big twelve
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Offensive Lineman of the Year. Polynesian College Football Player of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: the Year. He's already got this trophy case full of honors,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: and maybe Big Twelve Athlete of the Year could be
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: added to it. So you want to re you want
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: to hear AJ's accolades, just to compare from the basketball. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: consensus first team All American consensus not unanimous. True, So
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: first Team All American consensus not unanimous.
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  Speaker 3: He was the Julius.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Irving Small Forward of the Year, which, okay, they didn't
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: even know that award existed, and neither did you be
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: honest with yourselfs he was All Big twelve first team.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Big twelve Freshman of the Year doesn't say Freshmen of
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: the Year nationally, so didn't win that award. He did
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: lead Antawa Division one in scoring at almost twenty six
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: points per game, and then he was number one overall pick, which,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: if we're being honest, should not count on this because
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have anything to do with him as a
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Big twelve player. But sure, okay, so I think I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: think your biggest contender. I think if you're Spencer Fano
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: and you're sweating this out, which, knowing what we know
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: about Spencer Fano, he's not sweating this out at all.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I think Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech is probably.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Your biggest competition.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I think that aj Debonsa would be number two in
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: that regard. So if if Fano is the put in
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: fight terms right, he's got the belt, he's the heavyweight champion,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: then Jacob Rodriguez is the number one contender. Honestly, Devons's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: number two contender is what you're saying. Honestly, Jacob Rodriguez
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: might have the belt and Spencer Fano might be the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: number one contender here because I think defensive player of
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: the Year in all of college football someone who played
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: and anchored one of the best defenses in all of
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: college football, and of course had all the field goods,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: you know, the pr the great story of the wife,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: the helicopter, military helicopter.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: Pilot, and all that kind of thing.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: I think that Jacob Rodriguez is probably like he's probably
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: the favorite.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: He's probably the favorite. So yeah, just to your point, Big.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Twelve Defensive Player of the Year also unanimous All American.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: He won the Lombardi Award, the Beneric Award, the Buckets Award,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: and the Bronco Negerski Trophy. Yeah, he won like every
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: trophy that the linebacker can win. You basically cannot win
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: a Heisman troll as a linebacker.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: Everything else that he can win, he took home one.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: He was he wasn't a Heisman finalist, but he got
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of Heisman votes too, Like, yeah, you're right.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: As prestigious as the Outland Trophy is, that's just one
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: of the national trophies, right. Jacob Rodriguez also won the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: most prestigious defensive trophy out there award out there for
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: college football, the Chuck Chuck betten Eric Award, and then
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: three other trophies that go to the linebackers national awards,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: and they're not obscure like the Julius Irving Small Forward
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: of the Year when it comes to basketball.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Right, these are ones we've heard of. Nobody even knew
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: This might be a hot take, This might be unpopular
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: in the state of Utah, right. I don't have a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: lot of love for Texas Tech. I don't like their
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: new money kind of like throw it around and flex
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: on everyone sort of thing that they've got going on
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: right now. However, Jake Rodriguez I think was one of
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: the good things about Texas Tech. He was a transfer,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: but he was a transfer kind of pre Cody Campbell
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: throwing money at everything. He wasn't a guy that was
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: bought for Texas Tech. And he just was an excellent
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: player and he had a great story. And he's one
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: of those guys that, even though you hate the team
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: he plays for, you like the way that he plays football.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: So again, that's probably not something anyone wants to hear.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: We all want to see Spencer Fanal win the Big
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Twelve Athlete of the Year. That would be really great.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: I think that no one would say that he has
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: no chance. No one would say it's a robbery. If
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Jacob Rodriguez doesn't get it, or if Spencer Fnal doesn't
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: get it, I think they are the two lead candidates
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: based on what we know about And by the way,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: for the Big Twelve, all respect to the non football
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: athletes and the non basketball athletes that are their schools nominees,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: but it just behooves the Big Twelve to put a
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: football player in that position. I think that Jane headen
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Gren from BYU, who is the long distance runner at
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: BYU national champion, right gotta be. She owns a couple
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: of world records. Yeah, she's gotta be the shoe in
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: for the women's award, right. Avery Knapf has a good
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: has a good chance for that. But yeah, the Jane
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Heena Grin Eaeden Grinn is good should win that one.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Nigrie Canaday also the just put Texas Tech Softball on
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: the map, the great pitcher for them.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Those are probably the top three for the women's side.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: I would think, hey, all respect to you, Ms Kennedy,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: did you ever did you ever pitch fifty one innings
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: in a fifty six inning doubleheader? Yeah? If you did,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: then I don't I don't think you're very good if
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: you If you never did that, excuse me if you didn't,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're very if you never did that.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: We're not a pressed.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, Sorry, shout out to the Creighton picture in nineteen
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: ninety one. That's whoever whoever that create picture. Was sorry
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: that we don't know your name because we're bad at
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: our especially because Amy said her name in the interview yesterday.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: You softball coach j Amy Hogho joined us yesterday to
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: reminisce about that fifty six inning doubleheader. She said her name,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: and it just left both of our brains. So okay,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: if you heard about that. If you're Spencer Fano and you, uh,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: you've got one spot on the mantle, okay, because the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Final family's big, all right, the Final Family. They've got
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of kids. They've got a lot of people
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: that need equal recognition. Mom and Dad are not gonna
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: elevate you above your siblings just because you happen to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: win a couple of these awards. But let's say they've
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: got the mantle above the fireplace, and each kid's greatest
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: accomplishment is going up there on that mantle. If you're
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Spencer Fano and they're just like, hey man, you get
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: to put one on the mantle, you decide which one
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: goes up there. Are you doing the Outland Trophy, your
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: unanimous first Team All America plaque? Are you doing your
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Big twelve Offensive Lineman of the Year, You're Polynesian College
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Football Player of the Year award? Which one are you
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: putting up there? It's got to be the Outland Trophy? Right.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: If you're Jacob Rodriguez, same question. You've got all of
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: these awards this year, like a ridiculous laundry list of
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: things that you won, Nagirsky Trophy, the Buttckuss Award, the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Lombardi Award, the Benerica Award, Unanimous All America Big Twelve
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. You only get one spot
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: on the mantle because the rest of that mantle is
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: taken up by your wife's military medals. All right, what
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: are you putting up there? I mean, prior the Betneric right,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: defensive Player of the Year for the for the whole,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: for all of college football.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: I mean potentially a butt.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Kiss is also a prestigious award because people know the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: name Dick Buckets, that that name has endured.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: But probably the betn Eric.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Award, well, the Nigirsky Award is the same thing. Oh
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: was that also defensive player? The best defender? And yes,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: basically all right he won this kid, he also won
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: the Lombardi Award.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: I think that one might be the newer of the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: of the group.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Hold on this right, Let's see the Lombardi Award first
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: award in nineteen seventy. Okay, never mind, not that new. Okay,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: this this is so annoying. All right, this is wildly frustrating. Okay,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Lombardi Awards qualifications right now, it's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: the best college football lineman of the year.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: No, it isn't be a down lineman.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: And to end either on offensive defense setting up no
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: further than ten yards to the left right of the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: ball at the time to snap, or you can it
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: could be a linebacker on defense, setting up no further
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: than five yards deep from the line of scrimmage. You
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: must not come from the offensive backfield. You must not
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: be a blocker or a receiver. So it's it's literally
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: only for linemen. And then they added linebackers. Okay, fine,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: linebackers can win it. Why did they do linebackers? That
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: very dumb.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: It's very dumb. That should have been Spencer Vanos Award too.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: That's that's frustrating.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway, now we're mad about an award we didn't even
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: know we should be mad about. Oh see, the Butckus
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Award is given to the best linebacker. And there's a
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: high school, college and Professional Buckets Award every single year,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: which I love. It's really wondering who was the do
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: you have they pulled up? Who was the high school
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: and pro guy? Okay, the pro one was Jack Campbell.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: This year of the Detroit Lions all right, shout out
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: and the high school winner of the Buckets Award was
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Tyler Atkinson of Grayson High School in Loganville, Georgia. Ah. Cool.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: I love that you get a high school national award.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: That's the coolest part of that. Buckets Award is pretty
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: cool is that you get to say I'm the best
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: linebacker in the whole nation in high school and you
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: didn't like when you're at the high school level, you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: don't know how you compare to the rest of the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: country necessarily, So that's cool that there's a way to say, yeah,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I'm better than everyone else.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Now they have those you know, under Armor All American Games,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: they have the what's the other big Army Navy or
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: the Army All American Game. It's true, like there are
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: ways to measure now that you didn't have back in
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: the day. But it still just feels like it feels
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: like it's a lot it's still a lot harder to
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: know where you stand. And so it's schooled that the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Buckets Award has done that for so long. High school
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: winners of the Buckets Award, Uh, they just started giving
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: this one to high school players in two thousand and eight.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Mantitayo was the first winner.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Jalen Smith won it, Ray kwon, McMillan won it, Malik
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Jefferson won it, Nikobe Dean won it, Justin Flow won it.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know Drake Bowen, Sammy Brown, Christian Jones, or
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Tyler Atkinson. Those are the last four that. Yeah, there
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: hasn't been a Triple Buckus winner yet, has there? There's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: not been a triple Buckuts winner that they won it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: in high school, high school, college. The high school ones
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: makes sense too new, it's not even been twenty years.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Even the pro one hasn't been twenty years yet. Okay,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: So the college is the one that's been a really
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: long time. And let's see, do we have anyone who
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: won it in college? Jack Campbell won it in college
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: and now is a pro IOWA linebacker, Detroit Lions linebacker.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: So good for him? Is that the only one he's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: got the double? Let's see here? I feel like, did
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Eric Kendricks win it as a pro?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: He did not, not yet? Okay, so yeah, I think
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: that's it.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I think that he might be the Oh Patrick Willis, Yeah,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Patrick Willis as in college and as a pro. Shout
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: out it's my guy, all right, makes sense. I could
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: spend a lot of time on these weird obscure awards. Man.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: I so we were. I was talking to you a
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: little bit off Aerrow.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: See if we were to rank the schools with the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: most with the best tandem women's and men's Big Twelve
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Athlete of the Year, Texas Tech probably wins that too,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: right with Kennedy.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: And Kennedy was the college player of the year.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Right, I think Soanity and Jacob Bradriguez. Let's see, she
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: was the co Big Twelve Pitcher of the Year. She
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: was actually only second team All American this year. She
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: really so, she's just she's a name. Then I guess
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought she was a first team All
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: American Player of the Year type Top one hundred most
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Influential Athletes of twenty twenty six by Times Magazine.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: That's not true.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: It's not that.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: She was not the college player of the year. So yeah, I.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Think Utah's got a good case with avery nef really
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: good women's nominee. She's only a sophomore. By the way,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: She's an incredible year for the Red Rocks. And then
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Spencerfano Top ten NFL draft pick and Autland Trophy winner, right,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: like that that's really good byus. Is obviously really good.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: You got a national champion in track and field, and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: you've got aj Debontsa. People know who Aj is. As
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: far as like high profile those that might be the
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: top three. Of course we haven't heard from West Virginia yet.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe not just kidding, sorry chance, Sorry, yeah, I mean
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: those are the ones that are up there, and no surprise,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: those are kind of the uh. I think that's a
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: good reflection on the kind of year that Utah Athletics
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: had though this year, even though we're disappointed a little
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: it was a great season for Utah. Were disappointed a
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: little bit that they didn't get to the Big Twelve
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Championship Game and beyond, and but like you gotta feel
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: good about it.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: No, you're exactly right. This is this is a reflection though.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: It's you had elite, elite, elite athletes right on these
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: teams that unfortunately did not achieve everything that we thought
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: they could achieve. Red Rocks left out of the finals
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: for the first time in fifty years, and UTI did
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: not making it.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: The Big Twelve Championship Game.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Despite the individual excellence of Avery nef Spencer Final and
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: obviously more than just those two, but those are the headliners,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: and we're conveniently we're not going to talk about running
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: nuts basketball when we when we talk about this, they're
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: they're growing.
• 1:21:13
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  Speaker 2: This is the hero's welcome that I would want. This
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  Speaker 2: is the hero's welcome that I would need if I
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: had won a World Cup for my country. Spain knows
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: how to do it when it comes to celebrating a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: World Cup. Specifically, they did the parade right away, right
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: There was no next week joker rolling his eyes because
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: he wants to go back to Serbia to play with
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: his horses. They were like, no, We're like, you're gonna
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: get on your plane after you celebrate in New York
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: and we will be having a parade twenty eight hours later.
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  Speaker 3: That's how they did it in Spain.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Nobody had to go to work, nobody had to go
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: to sleep, Nobody in the country was expected to be
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: productive at all. The entire nation showed up to celebrate,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: even if you weren't in the capital city, even if
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: you weren't in And then here's the other beauty of it, right,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: the team does the parade where everyone's all in one place,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: and then Spain sent all of the players to where
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: they're actually from, to their hometowns. Go celebrate in your hometown,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: get your heroes welcome in your home town.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: That is wonderful.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: That's something that happens from it. Like on an informal basis,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: when we're talking about Super Bowl championships and we're talking
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: about NBA Finals and things like that, everyone gets to
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: take the Stanley Cup for like a weekend, right and
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: they bring it back to their hometown. You got to
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: do it on a national level. Well, Spain did that
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: for the World Cup. And this is the hero's welcome.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: I would have wanted so Fabian Ruiz and Haave and
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: I love the fact that he's just become one name
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: a singular moniker Hobby. They're from a place in Spain
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: called Los Palacios via Franca, Okay. On Tuesday, they went
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: back to their home, their hometown effectively. And this is
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: a tradition, not a long standing tradition, but a tradition
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: that goes back sixteen years now. The first guy from
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: this area to win a World Cup for Spain was
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: back in twenty ten. His name was Jezus Navas Okay.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: And apparently this region is famous for its tomatoes, for
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: growing tomatoes. So Ruiz gets his weight in tomatoes, his
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: body weight in tomatoes. Hobby gets his body weight in tomatoes.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: They literally brought him to the town square. They put
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: him on a scale and how much do you weigh?
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: Ruiz was one hundred and eighty five pounds. Hobby was
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: only one hundred and fifty pounds. Hey tiny, that's little
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: man Spence. Check its size, right, I think even Spence
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: weighs more than that. Uh so this is probably closer
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: to the one eighty. Yeah, this is in Andalusia, in
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: the south of Spain, and they're like, this is what
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: we're famous for. So you get one hundred and eighty
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: five pounds worth of tomatoes. You get one hundred and
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: fifty pounds worth of tomatoes. Also, if I'm Hobby, I'm
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: mad because I'm just like, give me more tomatoes.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: Because I'm smaller, I need more more. I need to
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: work up to one eighties.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: And they're gonna be like, if you eat one hundred
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: and eighty pounds of tomatoes, you're gonna die. Okay, Now
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: it's a hilarious gift. What in the bleep can you
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: do with one hundred and eighty five pounds of tomatoes?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Think about that? Make lots of like Eddy sauce.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: I guess I hope you're making spaghetti, sauce and salsa
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: and tomato tomato soup and everything else. You know how
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: long it would take to go through one hundred and
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: eighty five pounds of tomatoes. Much longer than you would
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: be able to like, actually, I mean, I guess when
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: you're a World Cup winner for Spain, you can just
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: take them to your favorite restaurant and be like, make
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: me all the stuff. Yeah. They they probably probably has
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: a personal chef or a team chef and be like,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: here you go, I got tomatoes for you. This is
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: This would be such a cool thing to do though,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: for every champion, Like you know, we were just talking
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: about the when Spencerfano gets his Outland trophy, right and
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: he comes back to the University of Utah and they're
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: just like, hop on that scale, Bud, you have three
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: hundred and nine pounds of pie, pizza, fry, sauce. I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: really can't know. It's like, nope, that's what you get.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: What kind of pizzas you want? Three hundred nine pounds
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: of it from the pie or whatever. AJ DEBATSA, you're
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: the number one overall draft pick. Come back to Provo
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: Eyu Creamery ice Cream. AJ, you're about two hundred and
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: thirty five pounds. We're gonna give you two hundred and
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: thirty five pounds of by of caramel cone of Graham Canyon. Absolutely,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: that's a great I would take the I would take
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: two hundred pounds of Graham Canyon. I would probably eat
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: two hundred pounds of Gram Canyon in one sitting. I'd
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: have to. I'd have that conscience, the Jimmy cricket in
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: the back of my head going, you should share that,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: You should share that. No, I'd be I'd be hoarding it,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: like smouging Lord of the Rings, just like sitting on
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: a mountain of it. I will not park. Actually, I'm
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: actually a little bit. I'm actually a little bothered now
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: when I made a triumphant return from New York City,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: Oh no, with my PFL belt in hand, why wasn't
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: anyone like, hey, hop on a scale and we'll give you.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: We need to recreate this. We'll give you two hundred
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: and thirty pounds of fry sauce. Next time you come
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: back from a PFL trip, have your belt with you.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Now that I think about it, I should have saved
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: this for Friday. This is a grievance I had Yeah.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Why did Sandy, Utah, my beloved hometown.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Jordan High School?
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Why were they not just like, here's two hundred and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: twenty five pounds of beats? Why did that happen? Why
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: aren't we doing this for everybody? If you had your choice,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: would of a Utah thing? Would it be you're waiting
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: fry sauce? Would it be beats? Because the beat digger?
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: We would it be? Why do I have to choose?
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Why can't I have something else? Okay? Why can't I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: have them all?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: Because, like you know, it's kind of like, all right,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: you just ruined the bit.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's kind of like I you know, in the
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: World Cup you can you can represent the country you
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: live in, the country you were born in, or that
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: your parents.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: Or your parents were born in.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Right, So like, why can't it Sandy, the place that
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: raised me? Right? You got to give me something. The
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: beats come from Sandy, The beets come from Sandy. Okay,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: I live in Salt Lake City now, So just I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: guess give me salts, Give me to me salts, right,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Utah ran shrimp U tall, you give me a bunch
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: of fry sauce? Right? I could go back to where
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: I was born in Minnesota and they have to give
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: me something what would be a Minnesota thing? Ice? So, uh,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: you ever had Lando Lakes butter? Yeah? Lakes.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Lando Lakes butter is the thing that you get in
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: the stores here.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because butter's easy to ship. Lando Lakes chocolate milk
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: is otherworldly, is it? So you would get you would
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: ask for the chocolate milk. Yeah, I mean that's what
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: I would go for. Everyone in Minnesota would be like,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: we've never heard of you. I have no idea that
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: you're from here. Fun facts, fun story. When I made
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: my UFC debut, this is back in twenty fourteen, I
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: guess first fight I head in the UFC, a newspaper
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: from Minnesota called me. Oh. It was just like, hey,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: we want to do something on you because you're from Minnesota.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Because in your bio for where you're born for the UFC,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: they ask where you're born and where you're fighting out of. Oh,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: so they're two different things, right presenting Minnesota and Utah.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: So I just answered the question. Honestly, I was born
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: in Cottage Grove, Minnesota. Is that right outside of the
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Twin Cities? Okay? I was wondering if that's one of
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: the suburbs. It's like, yeah, suburb of Saint Paul. I'm like,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: so this is where I was born, but where I'm
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: from where i'm fighting out of. What I'm really representing
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: is is I actually chose Salt Lake City, Utah instead
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: of Sandy, Utah because people have heard of Salt Lake right.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: So Anyway, this guy calls me and he's just like, yeah,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: we want to do an article on you because you're,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: you know, a Minnesotan fighting the UFC. And I was
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: just like, I'm not a Minnesotan, dude. I lived here
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: when I was eight. I moved to Utah when I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: was nine years old. He's like, oh, well, it says
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: you're from Cottage Grove. I'm like, it says I was
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: born in Cottage Grove. You didn't you so did the
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: did the peace? Ever?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: It made It was literally a conversation, just like oh,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: so you're not like you don't live here. I was like, no,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: I live in Utah. I haven't lived in Minnesota since
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: I was nine years old. And I was like, all right,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: never mind. I just I'm curious, Like, because moving when
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: you're nine, you have plenty of memories of what it
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: was like living in Minnesota.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: You could have given him something.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: I could, I guess, but it's like.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: But it's but it didn't feel true to you, it.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Is, well, it didn't. I think it probably didn't feel
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: true to him, being like, yeah, that's the last time
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: he was here. He was nine, and we somehow shaped
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: him into a UFC fighter, you know what I mean?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: That's true. They're probably just like, so do you remember
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: what your second grade teacher was like, she's the one
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: who inspired me to be UFC at the Hillside Elementary School?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Shout out to the Hillside Hornets, who then inexplicably changed
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: their mascots from Hornets to Hawks at some point. Why
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: tell me why hornets are not an offensive mascot? Why
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: did you change the hawks? Just more generic? That's weird,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: dumb grievance against Hillside. We're going to early grievances anyway.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: That's that's what I have. We don't have show Friday
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: because because of Pioneered Day. So, I mean, I guess
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: gravance isn't any time we just just setting them in,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: just shout them out, throw them at us.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that I would either I think
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: that I would go with fry sauce. Okay for me,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: But that's a ridiculous amount of fry sauce. I wouldn't
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: want to actually have that much to know to know
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: what to do with it. I guess maybe if they're
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: in individual packages, think of it, that's easily manageable. The
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: storage thing becomes a problem. You and I are both
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: big guys, right, Yeah, Hobby's got one hundred and fifty
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: pounds of tomatoes from Spain. Even that's too much. I
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: would un like another eighty pounds of tomatoes. Yeah, I
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: would be I'll just say a lot more. Like we're
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: in a situation here where storage becomes a problem. Now,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: it's why the ice cream thing, if you're from Provo,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: it's why the BYU cream or anything. It's good because
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: it goes in the freezer. It's supposed to be in
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: the freezer. Yeah, just buy another deep freeze. I learned
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: because bringing back a bunch I didn't have to buy
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: another deep freeze. But bringing back a bunch of fish
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: from Alaska, Yeah, I learned that. The other people in
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: the group that we went with, they're like, oh, it's
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: only one hundred and fifty bucks to get like just
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: a regular sized deep freeze, so that a couple of
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: people bought another deep freeze because they needed more storage.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, well it's actually that's actually not bad.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: It's not bad, so you gotta root for it. So
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: if you got the ice cream, if you got that
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: that ridiculous amount of ice cream just one hundred and
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: fifty bucks, you got an ice cream deep freeze. I
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: think that was it. Wettal I think one of our
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: famous utes was like super into Dippin' Dots, so Dippin'
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: Dots sent him like a Dippin' Dots freezer. If I'm
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: not mistaken, I like me some Dippin' Dots. I would
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: I would be I wouldn't be mad at that. I
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: think there was like a sponsorship situation going on.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: I think it was Wettle. Maybe we're gonna have to
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: ask him where.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: It was, like, yeah, we got a dippin Dots freezer
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: and they stock us up with Dippin' Dots. That's awesome.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: I'd be on board with that absolutely. The kids, obviously kids,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: your kids would love it because every kid loves dippin' dots,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: all right. Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: What quint essential Utah thing would you want given to
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: you as a prize, but it's based on your weight. Yeah,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: here's another one that not necessarily one that I would ask,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: but that I know is a I've learned recently is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: a quintessential Utah thing. So pastrami, okay, is at the
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: pastrami burger. Yeah, in particular is apparently, like if not
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: invented in Utah, that's one of the things that Utah
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: is known for for whatever reason. That's why you go
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: to any local burger chain and they've got a pastrami burger.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: That's why. Yeah, I don't know that I would want
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: that my weight in that, but that's another can food
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: candidate that you could get, Like that's a Utah thing.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe just pastrami, maybe pastrami burgers. I don't know. Trying
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: to think we got to be known for more than
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: just fry sauce. I mean, two and thirty is pounds
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: of dirty soda is actually dirty. It's not that much
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: dirty soda really dirty, So dirty soda would definitely be
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: one that we'd be known for. So that's like, so
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: this is what do we have like four things that
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: we're thinking of. We've got fry sauce, We've got pistrami
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: slash pastrami burgers, we have dirty soda, and we got
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: like pie pizza. If you want to really stretch, you
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: got you know what though, Oh, here's mine, here's mine. Okay,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: And again, I don't know why this didn't happen for
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: me when I won my PFL championships. So Utah's famous
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: for fossils. We got a lot of dinosaurs. Yeah, okay,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: I want two hundred and thirty pounds worth of fossil,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: like real like real dinosaur fossil fossil that you know
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: how much you can buy because you've looked at this.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: I'm a big fossil hunter. I'm a big fossil collector.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: How much would just like on the low end of
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: what you've seen people who collect real dinosaur fossils. Yeah,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: how much would two hundred twenty pounds of that? Well,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: it depends on what it is, right, So, like, uh,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: let's say, so alisaurus. You know what an alisaurus is.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: There's one in the in the airport. There's an alisaurus. Yeah,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: Jim Madison, I I think is the genus or the whatever.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: So like one of those, let's say, just a scar
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: is like one hundred grand, so that would weigh about
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: because it's a rock. Yeah, now it's a fossil, so
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: that's fair. Just give me an alisaur's skull. All right,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: let's go. You know what we need to do. We
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: need to go to Saint George, go to the Dinosaur
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Tracks Museum, the Discovery Site Museum, and be like, Okay,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: I won something. These guys got the tomatoes for World Cup.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: I need I need a fossil from the Dinosaur Track Museum.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: If you extracted me one square of a dinosaur track
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: of like hard and stone, maybe two, that's probably enough.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: That's like two.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: Hundred pounds worth of me.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: Two hundred and thirty pounds worth of like you could
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: match my body weight with a couple of dino tracks.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: I'd be very happy with that. I'd be totally satisfied.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: You and I are kindred spirits with that. I think
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: that'd be the coolest thing ever. That'd be the greatest
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: thing in the world. And actually it has become a problem.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: At those dinosaur dance floors, as they like to call them,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: where you can find dinosaur tracks, people will go in
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night. They will excavate them, they
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: will steal them. There's a huge black market for fossils.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know if everyone's aware of this. I've seen
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: Jurassic Park dominion. You know I'm aware Jurassic World dominion.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, Jurassic World dominion. All right, we're really off
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. Wrapping things
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  Speaker 2: up here before we get to Tony Parks. Wrapping up
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: our number two, I should say, before we get to
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: Tony Parks at the top of our number three. This
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: is something I probably should have fit into the Daily Dump,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: but we were too busy ranting about fry, sauce and salt.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: So we all know the name Woods as it pertains
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: to golf. Most of the time you're talking about Tiger.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: His son, Charlie is starting to carve out his own
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: little place right now as an amateur. He's seventeen years old,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: and he had a situation this weekend where he's trying
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: to qualify for the US to make the cut at
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: the US Junior Amateur Okay, somebody's phone went off during
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: his backswing.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: And it was not a It was not like a
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: ringing of the phone.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: It was I think someone taking a picture and doing
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: you know how like your digital camera on your phone
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: will tell you I just took the picture with that
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: fake shutter sound. Yeah, they had the sound on. They
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: had the sound on right in the middle of his backswing.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: Did he freak out? He chunked his chip shot okay,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: and then he had a long birdy attempt. He did
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: acknowledge the disruption, as I think is the right thing
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: to do on a golf course, even when you're like
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: a pro, and certainly if you're just an amateur. He
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: kind of like expressed his frustration, like why did that happen?
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: I have never been in any kind of high stakes
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: golf situation ever in my life. I don't know how
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: distracting it truly is, but I think it does distract people.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: I know it distracts people enough that Jerry Rice had
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: someone talking his back swing at a at a at
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: a tournament recently and he chased the guy down. Did
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: you see that?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: I missed that, Jerry.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: People get big mad on the golf course when there's
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: noises that distract them while they're trying to swing. It's true.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of those like hilarious slash obnoxious videos
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: of people who get the air horn out and they
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: go to golf courses and we're just like random old
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: guys are out in their foursome. They'll wait till you
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: in your back swinging, and then everyone gets mad at
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: him and comes chasing after him. It's like a prank video. Yeah,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: someone throws a golf club at him. I don't encourage
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: anyone in doing that. Don't do that. That's mean, it's classless,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: it's bad behavior. Sometimes it is a little bit funny.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but in this case, right, there's a.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: Kid who's trying to like something happened in the US Junior Championship.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: He's already got an immense amount of pressure on his shoulders.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: He's Tiger Wood's son for crying out loud, and you're
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna make it harder for him. Yeah, he's
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: gonna be a senior in high school next year. He's
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: committed to play golf at Florida State. Okay, not Stanford. Interesting,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: he's ranked number nine, number nine in his class in
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: the American Junior Golf Association standings. So he's not exactly Tiger,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: but he's a good golfer. He's a really good golfer.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Florida State apparently becoming a golf powerhouse.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: They got the number one golf recruit in the nation
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: to commit and the number nine in Charlie Woods.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: All right, so Florida State golf powerhouse.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: Tech text line helping us out with Utah foods that
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Utah is known for in a couple of these, like
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: we're gonna feel stupid for not thinking of them. Oh
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: see funeral potatoes. I would, I would, I would take
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: my weight in funeral potatoes. I won't. Something significant, absolutely,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: Jello and Crumble cookies have come in. Yes, hoverse Okay,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: this one from forty two to seventy one. This is
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: really good. Crumble Cookies KFC. Because the first ever Kentucky
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Fried Chicken was open here in Salt Lake City. Black
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: Rifle Coffee. Shout out to our guys at Black Rifle.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: They founded the company here in Salt Lake City. Good
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: friends of mine.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: Kodiac Cakes. I love me some Kodiak cakes.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: That one would be the most practical, Yeah, because they
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: come in that box, tightly sealed, good storage.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: Kodiac cakes.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: If you gave me two hundred and thirty pounds a
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: Kodiac cake mix in my family, that's like a year tops.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: We eat a lot of Kodiac cakes in my house.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Because I realized that was a Utah company. So that's cool. Okay,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: so Kodiak cakes. I'm gonna get in trouble with my
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: own family here. Truefreu. You're familiar with True Fruit. Yeah, Truefreu,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Utah company. True I could get two hundred and thirty
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: pounds of True Frew. I probably could get that anyway. Yeah,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: but that's uh. I like that. I like the suggestions
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: coming on the text line.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: Derek, our guy, Derek, regular Texter. We love you, Derek.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: Thank you for always chiming in.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: He says, give me Aggie blue Man ice cream, which
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: also a great choice there.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: Funeral potatoes would be a great one.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine they're just like, here's two hundred plus
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: pounds of cheesy potatoes. Figure it out. Absolutely, and Mike,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: I'd want it in all the varieties. I'd want the
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: cornflakes on top. One, I'd want the I'd want the
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: scalt potatoes one, I'd want the hash brown one.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: How about a two hundred and thirty pound cougartail, just
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: a gigantic one made donut just as big as you.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: That would be bad. This is maybe my favorite one.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: This is so good. Okay, you come back. You're the
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: returning champion. You're victorious. Like the Spanish players, they get
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: tomatoes because they're from a place famous for tomatoes. Here's
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty pounds of tomatoes. Here's one hundred
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: and eighty five pounds of tomatoes. In my case, about
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty pounds right out of tomatoes.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: We're not famous for that in Utah. This is so good.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Cad on the text line says just one word bees,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: just congratulations. Here's two hundred and thirty pounds of bees. Like,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, not honey, I have not prepared
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: for this, honey, A lot more practical. No bees, here's
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: a giant hive of bees. Oh no, that would be
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: really good, Kate, thanks for the laugh. That would be
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: an excellent localized prize.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: All Right, we're overtime.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: Our number three begins with Tony Parks, will talk a
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: little bit basking of bees. Yeah, speaking of bees, the
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: voice of the bees. And there's there's interesting things happening
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: in baseball right now. James Peterson has been trying to
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: force me to talk about one streak that's going on
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. We're gonna do our best to
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  Speaker 2: avoid talking about it, even with the baseball guy Tony Parks.
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  Speaker 2: On next Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred ninety one
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  Speaker 2: FM ME.
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  Speaker 5: You attuned to the Shan O'Connell Show for the Murdoch
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  Speaker 5: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred at ninety two one af.
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  Speaker 1: AMS kids, Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show for
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  Speaker 1: hour number three.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in our good friend, the voice of the Salt
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  Speaker 2: Lake Bees, the voice of a lot of other things
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  Speaker 2: around the state as well Tony Parks.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show again, sir. How are you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm a proud alum of the Hillside Hawks. By
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  Speaker 4: the way, that was not the same Hillside Hawks, but
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  Speaker 4: you and I both went to Hillside, just at different
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  Speaker 4: parts of the Globe's.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
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  Speaker 4: That's really interesting, strange things that you brought up. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, wait what. I was like, well, that that
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  Speaker 4: is really very The fact that they even changed it
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  Speaker 4: to that name makes it even crazy. But hey, you
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  Speaker 4: know I always do always do. We have a great teacher?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Was that a Was that an elementary school.
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  Speaker 2: Thing for you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So it totally blew my mind when you said that,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, wait what, And then I realized, yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: were in a great state of Minnesota, so not the
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  Speaker 4: same place, not.
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  Speaker 3: Quite not quite the same all right?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Wild The world is small, even when it's not small,
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  Speaker 2: there's these little connections everywhere. How goes the B season, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I mean we're in the thick of it. This is
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: summertime baseball. This is like the good feeling, the nostalgia,
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  Speaker 2: all of it rolled up in one You got good weather.
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  Speaker 3: Although last night wild. So yeah, how's it going.
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  Speaker 4: It's been great, man. I mean, this team offensively, I
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  Speaker 4: think has been a ton of fun to watch lately.
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  Speaker 4: Four games in a row now they've had a double
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  Speaker 4: digit number of hits. You know, all different parts of
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  Speaker 4: the lineup are now a serious threat to do something.
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  Speaker 4: The bottom third of the lineup has had some really
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  Speaker 4: practic performances since coming off of the All Star break,
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  Speaker 4: and so it's been fun, man. I mean, George Clausen
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  Speaker 4: is a dynamic rising star as a pitcher. We've always
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  Speaker 4: known that he has electric stuff, but the big question was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, can he put it together and locate more consistently,
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  Speaker 4: And well he's been able to do that, and he's
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  Speaker 4: taking no hitters into the seventh and he's had five
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  Speaker 4: quality starts in his last six and eleven strikeouts in
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  Speaker 4: his last start. So like, now starting to see some
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  Speaker 4: of these guys that you know when you were hopeful
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  Speaker 4: for them early in the year, they're starting to flex
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  Speaker 4: in a really big way. And so a guy like
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  Speaker 4: claus and a guy like Tyron Paris, and then Pablo Reyes,
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  Speaker 4: the guy who you're familiar with obviously having been there.
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  Speaker 4: He was with the Yankees and the Mets and now
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  Speaker 4: he's with us, So right now, it's they're a really
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  Speaker 4: fun team to watch. And so as far as player development,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: so many guys got called up. You were wondering, you know, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: what's this next group going to look like? And one
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  Speaker 4: good thing for the Angels is they've started to produce
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  Speaker 4: a little more organizational depth than what they've had in
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  Speaker 4: the past, and that's been a good thing for the Beasts.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to jump around too much, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go kind of all over the place with
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  Speaker 2: you on on baseball because we don't have it. We
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  Speaker 2: don't have a ton of baseball people to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: We're coming off of a Major League Baseball All Star
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  Speaker 2: break where I thought they did a really good job
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  Speaker 2: with the home run derby. I thought that game the
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  Speaker 2: All Star Game itself, throwing in like the sand Lot
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  Speaker 2: nostalgia thing for another Utah connection it was.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they did a really good job with it.
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  Speaker 2: And all these professional leagues, as you're well aware, are
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  Speaker 2: trying to make sure that their All Star showcases are
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  Speaker 2: still appealing to the fans. Our television friendly but also,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a reason to get yourself out to the ballpark,
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  Speaker 2: and I felt like Major League Baseball really hit on
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  Speaker 2: something with a modified home run derby formatt speating that
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  Speaker 2: thing up a little bit, and you know, the drama
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  Speaker 2: that it came down to the final swing doesn't hurt.
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  Speaker 3: But what were your thoughts on All Star Weekend?
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  Speaker 4: I think All Start Weekend was really fun. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times people would like or hate a
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  Speaker 4: home run derby or the game in and of itself,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm with you. I think one thing Baseball has
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  Speaker 4: done a great job of really over the last seven
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  Speaker 4: or eight years or so, is they started to wake
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  Speaker 4: up to the fact that, look, you've got to find
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  Speaker 4: unique ways to bring in the audience. Now. We don't
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  Speaker 4: need to make it small time. We don't need to
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  Speaker 4: yuck it up and do something really crazy and bizarre
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  Speaker 4: to kind of make it look like a laughingstock, but
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  Speaker 4: to find something how do we make sure that this
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  Speaker 4: is as entertaining as posible while it also makes it
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  Speaker 4: the best for competition. And so while they're tweaking with things,
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  Speaker 4: it's been good because for a little while there you
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  Speaker 4: could sense a shift that needed to take place. Oh see,
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  Speaker 4: and you can feel it. I know you're a baseball guy,
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  Speaker 4: you could kind of feel it where you had the
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  Speaker 4: purest standing there going just leave the game alone. The
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  Speaker 4: game's fine, and everybody else went. It's actually not like
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  Speaker 4: there's there's some advancement here. There's some improvement needed. And
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  Speaker 4: while you didn't need to somehow, you know, turn it
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  Speaker 4: into a circus show. You could make improvements like they've made,
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  Speaker 4: Like you can't just hold the ball for you know,
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  Speaker 4: twenty minutes as a pitcher, you can't take forever. You
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  Speaker 4: have to throw. Now you have like there's different parts
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  Speaker 4: of the game now moving it in a good way.
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  Speaker 4: And obviously ABS has been a good thing, and so
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  Speaker 4: replay has been a good thing. But now to have
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  Speaker 4: something like that happen too, I sat back thinking, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, they're always finding ways to evolve in advance,
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  Speaker 4: and that's nothing but a good thing for a league.
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  Speaker 4: It was really starting to lose some attention from a
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  Speaker 4: number of different fans of different eras. So when you
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  Speaker 4: said I like that, you asked me about that, because
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  Speaker 4: that was the first thing I thought of. It was
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  Speaker 4: great that it was dramatic and fun in terms of
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  Speaker 4: how it turned out, and obviously I was rooting for Schwarmer,
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  Speaker 4: but it was just cool to see, you know, unique
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  Speaker 4: advancements to try and make this fun but also to
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  Speaker 4: make it great for competition.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting because I think that American sport when baseball has,
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  Speaker 2: you know it, it's stars and it's prominent place, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's important that some of those stars be Americans.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm glad it's a very international game now. I
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  Speaker 2: love that the Caribbean nations have really populated a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these rosters, obviously show Heeo Tani and these other
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  Speaker 2: Japanese stars. I like that global field to the game.
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  Speaker 2: That's unique and something that wasn't as prevalent when you
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  Speaker 2: and I were kids coming up with baseball. But I
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  Speaker 2: do think that I do think that it's important that
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  Speaker 2: you know, in this new era as we swing into it,
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  Speaker 2: that there are American stars as well, that they are like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that representation matters for everybody the including the
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  Speaker 2: kids that you know, we're at one point like guaranteed
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  Speaker 2: that they were going to tune in and see someone
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  Speaker 2: that looks and sounds and acts like them and from
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  Speaker 2: a culture that they're familiar with. American stars have kind
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  Speaker 2: of fell behind the pace in recent years. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think that that's gonna that pendulum swings back a little
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  Speaker 2: bit with some of the young talent in the league
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's great to have America Spurs.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that that hurts the game in any way.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the game has really started to flex
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  Speaker 4: in a good way in terms of some more youth
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  Speaker 4: now getting involved, and that's been positive to me. While
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  Speaker 4: I think what you say is valuable, I think it's
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  Speaker 4: it's every bit is important that authenticity exists with your
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  Speaker 4: smart players, and I think we're watching that in some
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  Speaker 4: other sports leagues. You know, when it always looks like
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  Speaker 4: it's a show, when the show is always getting in
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  Speaker 4: the way of the game. When you know there's so
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  Speaker 4: much more to what you're doing than going out and competing,
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  Speaker 4: that's fine. But when it turns into a circus that
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  Speaker 4: everything you do has to be a screaming match on ESPN,
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  Speaker 4: I think people are starting to turn away from that.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, at least for me as a fan,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, Man, can we just talk about the forty
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  Speaker 4: five and ten? Do we have to talk about everything else? No,
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  Speaker 4: let's talk about the forty five and cent now why
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  Speaker 4: it's historic, why it's cool, why it's great, and so.
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  Speaker 4: One thing that is starting to happen, and I think
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  Speaker 4: it's been a positive for the game, is the authenticity
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  Speaker 4: in the stars. One of the biggest reasons why you
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  Speaker 4: love Pedro Martinez, it wasn't it wasn't an American. He
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  Speaker 4: was authentic and one of the reasons why you engaged
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: to watch him, whether you liked him or hated him.
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  Speaker 2: He was authentic.
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  Speaker 4: Everything paid a big poppy David Ortiz, who was authenticity
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  Speaker 4: to him and it made it so great. That's what
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  Speaker 4: made it so fun. That's what made the rivalry is good,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: is because Pedro would say something and he meant it,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: and he was such a competitor and you couldn't wait
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  Speaker 4: to tune in to watch him, whether you liked him
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: or hated him. Authenticity is something that I think you know,
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  Speaker 4: especially in this new era that we're moving into with
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 4: pro sports, college sports, all of that. I think the
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: college fan, the first sports fans, the biggest thing they
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: want to know, am I watching something that's real in
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 4: terms of who they are as a competitor, what they
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: think and feel, and how they want to go out
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: and win for my team or even if I don't
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: like them. Part of what made I thought the NBA
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: in the nineties so great was the authenticity Charles Barkley.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: I hated him, but man, I love how real he
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: wants and you couldn't hate. You couldn't help but to
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 4: watch and root against him or for him or whatever
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: it was, and you liked or hated different athletes. I
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: think that's now going to be a really big help
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: up at the game of baseball going forward. Is they
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: kind of have this next echelon of stars, and I
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: think they can make it for, you know, a really
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: exciting future.
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  Speaker 3: Tody Parks is our guest here on the show.
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  Speaker 2: On Candle Show. He's the voice of the Salt Lake Bees,
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  Speaker 2: who tonight are the dirty Sodas because it's dirty Soda
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  Speaker 2: night at the ballpark.
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  Speaker 3: Three dollars three dollars swig drinks.
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  Speaker 2: Do you how hard is it to call them the
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: dirty Sodas when you're used to calling them the Bees
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  Speaker 2: and vice versa.
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  Speaker 4: If you get very hard, it's very hard. And I'm like, guys,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: when I say the Bees, you know what I mean?
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: We know everybody knows, right and so we'll have some
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: fun with it. And then when I say the Dirty
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: you know, but I don't think the Dirty Sodas things
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 4: as hard as it is saying Utah, because I've been
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 4: following this team, salt Lake.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Utah.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: That's actually the harder part is because I'll look up
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: at the scoreboard as I'm doing it, and I don't
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: see Salt Lake. I see Utah, and so then I
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: have to like revert my mind and it starts twisting.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, that first game, i'd maybe say the first
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: two games I ever had with the Dirty Sodas, that
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 4: was actually the challenging adjustment for me. That's interesting, but
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: I've met it's been, but it's been fun. Man like.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 4: Thing I like about the Dirty Soda is one original two.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 4: It connects to the State three. It's got the touch
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 4: of minor league without moving into small time. Right, We're
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: not going to be the Dirty Sodas forever. Like No,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 4: that's just a one night thing with a funny mascot,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: a really cool, family friendly promotion, and it just kind
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: of lightens things up a bit. The players actually like
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: that it's a bit of a change up from what
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: they're normally doing. So they get a kick out of it.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 4: When the dirty Sodas win, I like to give the
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: victory a dirty Soda name, right, And so we all
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 4: come in with that and it just kind of personalizes
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: and humanizes a little more of what we're doing. So
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 4: for the fans that come out on Wednesday nights, it
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: is a different it's a different sort of feel and
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: a fun way, and your family is gonna love it.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: I need to bring the girls out there.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: I need to come to a Dirty Soda live because
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: we consume a lot of dirty soda in the O'Connell household.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: And I actually I'm with you. I love the I
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: love the branding. I love the it is minor league
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: baseball in a not like campy way.
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  Speaker 3: For me, it's like, yeah, this is what it's supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be.
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  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be connected to something unique about your community.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: So maybe I'm just a fool for branding, but I'm
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: into it.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: And this is a random aside.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you and I have really talked
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: about this yet, but banana ball, you're a baseball purist, right,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: You're you're a hardcore sports fan, and banana ball is
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: not a major league baseball product. It's I don't even
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: think it's a competitor of Major League Baseball. It's a
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: complete showcase, random, family friendly, crazy thing. And I just
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: you know, your dad and you got the young kids
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: who are into stuff like this, and it is a
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: sports at least adjacent form of entertainment.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on banana ball?
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 4: I think it's cool that they have something unique and different, right,
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you go into it expecting the normal
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 4: baseball game, you're gonna be disappointed. If you go into
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 4: an understanding it's there's the unique differences you're talking about it,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 4: you Burger appreciate it, right. They're excellent with their marketing,
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: they're excellent with what their fan connection, and now they
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 4: really just go deep into how do we make sure
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 4: there's fan engagement, fan connection, all of that, and clearly
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: it's Yeah, it's a totally different thing from the game
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 4: that you know, we like to just watch in a
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: competitive sense. Once you enjoyed it and you understand what
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 4: it is, then you can appreciate why it's you neque different.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, yeah, if any of the family
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: was like I really want to go to that, I
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 4: would do what it takes to go and enjoy it
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: and actually appreciate a different style of entertainment. There's nothing
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 4: wrong with that at all. And so while some people
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: have been hating on that early, I think maybe can
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: come around and be like, Okay, it is what it is.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 4: I can appreciate that. So entertainment's entertainment and you can
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 4: just sit back, RelA smile, and have a good time.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: At the opposite end of the spectrum, when we're talking
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: about the pure entertainment fun, low stakes, et cetera, is
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: something that may or may not be looming for Major
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: League Baseball that I know you're aware of, with you know,
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: an anticipated lockout potentially with the you know, a collective
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: bargaining agreement coming where the two sides are separated by
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: just a vast gulf of difference of opinion here on
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: everything from you know, a hard salary cap potentially to
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: contract linked maximums, all these things. It feels like, while
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: baseball is I think winning some goodwill with the things
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: we already talked about, with adjusting the timing and adjusting
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: the clocks and you know, and leaning into some of
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: the fun stuff and pace of play and whatnot. Now
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: you're getting into the business of baseball potentially halting some
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: of that momentum, and you're you're, you know, daily in
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: the mix with a bunch of guys who are climbing
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: this ladder and hope to be part of Major League
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: Baseball rosters sooner than later, and as affected or more
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: affected by these rule changes than the people who are
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: already in the league and have already made their big
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: money and things like that. So two part question, I
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: suppose what is the conversation like right now around minor
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: league baseball pertaining to, you know, the looming work stoppage
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: potentially and how affected are these guys by it?
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can be very affected by it.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 4: You know, workstoppages are never good thing. The one thing
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 4: I think about, too, is we were you know you
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 4: and I obviously remember the strike in ninety four and
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 4: how likes strange that was and how weird it works
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 4: because of the stops in the late part of the
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 4: year that was August twelve, that's never over and ever
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: since then, what you see now in the off seasons,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 4: when everybody's putting it together, it's usually anoven hour, might
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 4: even be a delayed start of the year. No matter
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 4: how far apart they are, they usually find something that
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: works at some point to where the season is not lost,
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 4: maybe as part of it, you know, a week, maybe
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: even a month and worse, but usually the two sides
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 4: find something that eventually works, and that's what you're hoping for.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 4: This is.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately we lost Tony's phone. Sounded like a decepticon tech
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: static electricity. Maybe big thanks to Tony for hopping on
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: love ourselves some Tony parks here.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: It is time for us to take a break.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: So we'll just text him and let them know thank
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: you for coming on after the disconnect there after the
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: phone dropped. But that's a conversation that's going to continue
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: but for months and months and months potential work stoppage
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball if owners and players, owners and
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: the players Association can't get back closer to the same page.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: Right now, everyone expects that before the twenty twenty seven
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: season there will be an owner instituted work stoppage. I
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: think that would be disastrous, terrible timing for baseball. I
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: think baseball, like a lot of sports right now, are
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: experiencing a positive upswing. Women's sports are having this I
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: think that college sports are on shaky ground right now.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: I think that's some of the pro sports where it's
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: all about business, and you know it's about business they're doing. Okay,
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: you don't want to see a work stopp I want
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: to see any erosion of the positivity that has surrounded
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: baseball professional baseball in recent months. But that is something
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: that could happen and might maybe is more likely than
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: not to happen. And we'll talk about it with Tony
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: Parks the next time he jumps on with us. It
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: is Dirty SODA's Night out at the ballpark, So if
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: you're anywhere near daybreak or you want to get yourself
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: down to daybreak, three dollars swig sodas and should be
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: a great night out there as they take on the
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: Omaha storm Chasers once again. All Right, we just got
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: some junk mail and it was kind of an open secret,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: but it's now official. I'll tell you what's in the
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: junk mail. Official Utah football email from Keeler mcjenkin. Next
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred ninety twofm A.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 5: You were listening to a Sean O'Connell show from the
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: Murdoch hundred Studio of DESPN seven hundred and ninety two
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  Speaker 5: to one app ad.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: We need a junk mail sounder.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. We have a breaking news sounder,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: we need one for junk mail, which is official Utah
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: football email from Keeler mcjenkin, Assistant Athletic Director for Strategic Communications.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: He's the football sid Keeler McJunkins shout out to you.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: The email came in today and like I said when
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: I teased it before the break, it's kind of been
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit of an open secret. People have made
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: reference to this being a strong possibility for this year.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: I think his own son accidentally leaked the information in
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: an interview. Potentially, but very excited for our guy. Eric
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: Weddle will be a Utah Football Ring of Honor inductee
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: this season. The former All American will be inducted at
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: the September twelfth home game versus Arkansas. Friend of the program,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: frequent guest of the show, personal friend of mine, Utah, Captain,
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: Utah stud Utah All Everything, has represented the program as
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: well as anybody could. I mean Alex Smith rightfully was
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: the first inductee to the Ring of honor and his
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: accomplishment Heisman Trophy finalists, All American himself like no one
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: there's it's all above approach. The onfield stuff for Alex
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: Smith has leaves nothing wanting. He was an undefeated quarterback
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: for one of the all time great Utah football teams.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: Weddle was on that team. Weddle was a huge part
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: of that team. Eric Weddle has been a better ambassador
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: for Utah football than virtually every other player in the
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: program's history. On the national level, nobody has waived the
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: Utah football flag as aggressively with as much class as
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: Eric Weddle has in the last couple of decades. You
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: can make arguments about whether or not that the players
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: have been more prominent. Steve Smith has been on TV
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: and talked a bunch about football in general. It is
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: known that he is, of course a former ute Even
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: Steve Smith Senior has not been as vocal in his
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: like stumping for the greatness of Utah football as Eric
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: Weddle has for all these years. So pretty great to
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: see our guy who was a formidable, talented every position
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: they put him out there at running back, punter, holder, safety, corner, nickel.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: He did it all man.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: He was really, really great and was one of the
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: best defensive players on one of the best defenses that
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: Utah's ever fielded twelve to zero number four final ranking
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: for that Fiesta Bowl season, and he then went on
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: to win back to back Mount West Conference Defensive Player
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: of the Year awards in five and six. He was
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: an All Conference pick four times first team those years
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: where he was the defensive player of the Year, he
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: was a freshman All American. He holds the Utah career
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: record for forced fumbles, second all time in interceptions with eighteen,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: and of course he scored touchdowns. His final Utah stats
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: are two hundred and seventy seven tackles, twenty two and
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: a half tackles for loss, ten sacks, eighteen interceptions, twenty
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: three pass breakups, nine forced fumbles, six fumble recoveries, including
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: two of those return for touchdowns. He rushed fifty two
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: times for two hundred and fifty nine yards and six touchdowns.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: He returned fifty two punts for four hundred and eight
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: yards and even threw two complete passes forty three yards
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: total one touchdown. So that will bring the twenty twenty
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: six Ring of Honor will now have it be Eric Weddle,
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: Ron McBride, Roy Jefferson, Alex Smith. We talked about this
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: when the concept of the Ring of Honor was announced
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: and we saw what the criteria were for, you know,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: getting into the Ring of Honor. We knew eventually Eric
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: Weddle's name would be up there on the side of
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: the building deservedly, so we talked about how you got
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: to get Ron McBride in there as soon as you can,
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: You got to get Roy Jefferson in there as soon
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: as you can, right, And so it's like it's kind
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: of like and maybe this is the plan. We'll see
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: where they're kind of going like modern day old school
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: back to modern day. And there's a bunch of other
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: guys who deserve to be in.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: In these same conversations.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: But you cannot say that Eric Weddle is not an
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: obvious pick for this Ring of Honor. And September twelfth
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: against Arkansas, it'll be great to see him. I know
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: that when I reference the fact that I think that
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: you know, his somebody might have already leaked this information.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: I think that I think that his son might have
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 2: referenced the fact that he was going to be in
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: Utah for a Ring of Honor induction or that second
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: week of the season. So that must be a I
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: wonder if that's a bye week for Rancho Bernardo and
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: that's why it's happening that weekend.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: That'd be convenient if it was right.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up right now, and so so
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: Gage Weddles, same as the the Heat social media guy,
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: is that we're saying.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 3: No, we're not saying that.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: Let's see leaking, leaking the information just a little bit early.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think I know what's happening here. Wow,
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: is this real? I should know this kind of stuff,
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: but it's hard to stay on top of every single thing.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the Rancho Bernardo High School football schedule.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: They play Saint Augustine, they played Brawley, they played fory Pines.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: Their game it's not a bye week. Their game on
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 2: September eleventh is against Westlake in Utah. Oh, Westlake out
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: there in Saratoga Springs, all right, So that's in their
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: pre region pre I mean, in a preseason or is
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: that right? In the I think it's I think it's
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: kind of like they're doing what BYU and Arizona are doing.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 3: They got it.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: They got a non region or whatever, non district game
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: right in the middle. They've got like a I think
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: because Tory Pines and Brawley, I think both are district
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: games for them are region games, and so they're getting
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: to that early. And then they got a break with
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: Westlake nine to eleven. Okay, well, you know what. Either way,
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: he got perfect sense. Maybe he got tipped off well
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: before the season schedule was figured out, right, he was told, Hey,
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: we gotta do this. It's got to be in September.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: And so he worked with the school right in the
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: middle of what would be district or region whatever they
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: call it in southern California that part of the season.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: They said, let me, let me schedule a game in
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 2: Utah so that I can be there for this Ring
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: of Honor thing. Maybe that's what happened.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 3: Pretty cool.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 2: So, uh yeah, if you are a gigantic Eric Weddle fan,
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: like so many Utah fans are, you could watch him coach,
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: you could go watch his son, who's obviously a big
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: time target for Utah football and recruiting, and then on
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: the twelfth you could watch him play against Arkansas.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: That'd be fun.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: We're just we now are just now by mentioning that
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: they're playing in Westgate, we just up that attendance like.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: Tenfold.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: Right, You're welcome whatever school district Westlake is in. Do
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: we know, James off the top of your head. It's
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 2: not Alpine, is it. I'm going to find is that
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: even a school? I think that's one of this that
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: sounds like, oh, James five hundred, James Peterson, I am.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: I am so woefully uninformed about the school districts up here,
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: by the way, I know Davis, I know Salt Lake City. Granted,
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you when the bound where the boundary
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: is starting end for these things because I peaked in
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: high school and those were the glory days for me.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: I stayed so dialed in on high school everything, high
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: school sports for a long time, and then it just
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: slips away from you. There's just too much. I don't
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: even know every school in Utah anymore. They've built so
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: many of them. I mean, I didn't know all of
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: them in the entire state. One's like Wassat's Front, you
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: know for sure. And then and and like you could
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: kind of like if someone threw a random school at me.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: I would look like, oh yeah, okay, that makes sense.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: You'd say, oh, yeah, that's there, Like that's that area, yeah, right,
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: Like I think I know where that is. Now, there's
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: so many of them. Crimson Cliffs, that's in Saint George. Yeah,
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: what part of St. George? Washington? Okay, Washington Fields, Yeah, good,
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: that still counts as Washington.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, Washington. You're good.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: You're good. I feel like I'm under pressure now, right.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: But like that's a pretty new school. That's the newest
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: one in southern Utah. Anyway. Yeah. The only reason I
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: know about that one is because one of my old
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: teammates and good friends is these kids go there. Oh okay,
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: shout out to the Shaheen family. A lot of a
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: lot of Saheens in the Saint George area. Yeah, and
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: one of the one of the many, very good. So anyway,
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: there's there's five high schools in the Saint George not HRK,
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: not counting Hurrican Like in the actual Saint George metro area.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 3: There's five.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 2: Now there's five now, okay, now wild When I was
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: in high school, I'm pretty sure there were two, uhs,
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: there would have been three snow Canyon was Okay, so
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: it was snow Camp Canyon was was new at that point.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: Dixie and pine whatever, pine View, pine View like the
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: like the lake, yeah, but but nothing lake, but nothing
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 2: to do with the lake. I I didn't even know
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: about pine View Lake until the lake pine View till recently.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 3: It's a reservoir, reservoir whatever.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: Come on, And uh I knew the high school and
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, like, hold on.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: Why is it? I know why. I know why it's
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: called pine.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: View High School in Saint George because of pine the
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: view of Pine Valley Mountain.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that makes sense. I don't know why
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: it's pine View up here.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: I think because when you're on it, you're looking at
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: a mountain full of pine trees.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You know they're draining it right now,
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 3: are they really?
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: I was just there a few weeks ago, Fourth and
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 3: July weekend.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a pipeline in the bottom of it that
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: needs repair, and so they're just letting the water run
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: out of it.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 3: That's why it was so shallow a few now. I
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: don't know, I didn't notice.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna I haven't been up there in a
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: few weeks, but it's like it's gonna be gone most
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 2: of it's they're draining, like there's gonna be like a
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: third of the water left. That's that's nuts. But I
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: mean it's a reservoir, so you can just do that.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: You can do that. And here's the other thing, right
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: is like, Okay, so let's say we have a couple
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: of dry winters. So now Piney's just gone for a while. Yeah,
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: that'd be crazy because you need you need precipitation to
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: refill it after you complete the repair and then you
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: shut the dams again.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 3: Let's hope that doesn't happen.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: That can't happen. No, We've had some dry winters though,
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: so it absolutely could. Uh.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 3: I want to go.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: I want to get a metal detector. Ah, and I
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 2: want to go walk the lake bed. You know, you
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 2: want to be one of those people, Yeah, one of
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: those weirdos you see out there. They usually have heavy
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: see if you find something valuable.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they have.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of the times they're they're wearing like
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: an excess amount of anti sun clothing and sunblock. You know. Yeah,
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be out there for hours, Like I'm gonna
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 2: be out here forever. I gotta get protected here and
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 2: I stay protected. I'm looking for lost treasure. I'm not
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 2: trying to get Carsonoma. Yeah, anyway we went. That's twice.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 3: Now we've gone really far off the Yeah.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: We apologize. Resident BYU fan Darren saying happy for Eric.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: Would only thing he would do different as a BYU
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: fan would be to have the have his Ring of
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: Honor induction during the BYU game, which is at Rice
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: Ecles this year. That would have been perfect, but it
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: probably does not work with Eric's with Wettel's schedule, is
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: probably what that is.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 3: And they they like to do it early in the
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: season too.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: Well, that's playoff time for high school football and his
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 2: team will be in the playoffs.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they they.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 2: Want it in September, so that the so that his
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: name is up there for basically the whole season. That
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: so that's the other reason there. But yes, other than that,
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, what would be better than a Ring of
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: Honor induction at the BYU game and on well else,
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: he's humble. All these guys that are actually good at stuff,
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: they're very humble. But how awesome is it that you
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: get to look up on the side of the stadium
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: that you played in and your name.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: Is there forever. How cool is that?
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: It's so cool. It's man next to another, next to
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: another teammate. Yeah, next to one of your teammates. Come on, man,
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: it's just great that you guys. You guys made like
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: college football history together. You were the first bcs busters,
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 2: the first in today's terms, group of five team to
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: play in a big time New Year six Bowl game
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: to be invited to do that. You undefeated, first, first
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: undefeated season in Utah football history, right, at least for
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 2: a twelve game season.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for a twelve game season.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: Certainly, I'm sure there's one way back in the sixties
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: or something and you.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 3: It's you and another teammate.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: And obviously there were a few more, including coach Mack
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: that last year too, but like the two beside.
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  Speaker 3: Coach Mack's a big name too.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: But the two of the three biggest names on there,
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: you and and a teammate Alex Smith from that team.
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  Speaker 3: Like pretty cool? How cool was that?
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: Good job by the selection committee getting it done and
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: making it happen this year. Eric Weddle going into the
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor the week of Arkansas's visit, so so
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 2: no pressure, no pressure, curt Uts, but you better win
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: that damn game. So you so utes fans, you get
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: to watch at all time greats name get put on
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 2: the stadium forever right, part of an historic team like
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: I just like I just talked about there, and you
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: get to see them kick an sec S team's ass
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: at home.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 3: Bo How what could be better?
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  Speaker 4: Pow?
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  Speaker 2: All right, gotta take our final break. We'll come back
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  Speaker 2: with a four pack of tickets to the sneak preview
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  Speaker 2: of the End of Oak Street. We're doing it on
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  Speaker 2: August tenth. Details are available at ESPN seven hundred sports
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  Speaker 2: dot com. Movie comes out on the fourteenth. It's Anne
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  Speaker 2: Hathway Ewan McGregor. August tenth is the screening. I've got
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  Speaker 2: a four pack of tickets to give away. Next on
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  Speaker 2: The Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven ninety two one FMD.
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  Speaker 5: This is by Sean O'Connell show. You were home of
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  Speaker 7: Amy lit nirvana for you here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's give away these tickets or pack of
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  Speaker 2: sneak preview to the End of Oak Street, starring Anne
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: Hathaway and Ewan McGregor. There are dinosaurs in this movie,
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. I don't know a lot about it,
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: but I know there's dinosaurs in it. And it's we've
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  Speaker 2: we've not really had outside of the Jurassic Park Jurassic
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  Speaker 2: World franchise, we have not had any successful dinosaur movies.
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: It's true. There was the one sixty five or sixty
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  Speaker 2: five million years ago or whatever something that was yeah,
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  Speaker 2: with Kylo Ren was in it, whatever, that that was
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  Speaker 2: really good.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see it, but didn't get a lot of notoriety.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe critics that fancy themselves knowing movies a lot better
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  Speaker 2: than I do panned it.
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  Speaker 3: But I liked it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. That's like the only other one that I think
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  Speaker 2: I've enjoyed besides like the cartoons you had, like you
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: have like the Disney Land before Time Yeah, Land before
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: Time Out. They're up to like fifteen of those now. Yeah.
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: I got a Lamb Before Time graphic tea for Father's Day. Okay,
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: I wear it all the time. The good Dinosaur is
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 2: something is it underrated? It's pretty good. Dinosaur remember the
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: one with AlIdar in it? Yeah, also underrated, also pretty good. Yeah,
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 2: it's fine. That was a Disney movie too, right, it
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: was Disney movie. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I say it doesn't count. No, And I say I
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 3: don't like that.
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  Speaker 2: They they did the whole dinosaur thing, like, let let
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 2: prehistoric mammals be their own thing. They didn't cross over dinosaurs. Yeah,
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: you don't have to make a bunch of movies where
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: now there's dinosaurs in them too. And he got the
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: isn't the New Paw Patrols got a dinosaur in it?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know about that.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: There's a really cool cartoon on I think it's on
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  Speaker 2: Disney Plus called Dino Ranch. It's a great concept where
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: dinosaurs and humans co exist and they the dinosaurs are
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: like the the horses. They don't they don't eat the humans. No,
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: they're like working together. It's like it's like a Wild West,
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 2: but with dinosaurs in it. Anyway, End of Oak Street's
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: got dinos in it. I think that they're the enemy.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: I think that there's like the you know, they're the antagonists.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: I think you're trying to survive the dinosaurs. Forgot in
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: this movie. I forgot what end of Oak Street was about.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing the trailer now that you said there's dinosaurs,
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: and it's like, at the end of the street you
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: you cross into a different where there are crazy things
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: like dinosaurs allegedly.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's gonna be a fun one.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: August tenth is the screening a family four pack, although
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: viewer discretion advice. I think it's like a PG thirteen here,
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: so don't take your little kids to it. Maybe eight
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: We just talked about this.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: Eric Weddle's career interceptions total at the University of Utah
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. If
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: you know that answer, will give you a four pack
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: of tickets for the sneak preview. Love love to get
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 2: you out there to watch there's a It feels cool
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: getting to see a movie before everyone else gets to
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: see a movie, even though it's like not hyper exclusive
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: because all you have to do is listen to the
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show and win your tickets, right, it feels
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: cool to be like I already saw that. What it
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't come out until next week.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 3: I know, yeah, gotta be cool like me, and it's
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 3: see it first.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: I know a guy, I know a guy. I listened
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: to a guy. Yeah. I The only time I've seen
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: it screening was earlier. It was in the maybe it
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 2: was late last year, the new Now You See Me. Okay,
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 2: you saw that, so it was cool seeing it before
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: everyone else. I didn't. I didn't hate the movie. I
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: didn't think that it needed to be made. I guess
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: is the way to put it. Oh, but it was.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: It was pretty good. Can I give you a Can
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: I give you just a wild report? There's no movie
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: that needs to be Yeah, that's true. Need is none
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: of it. They're all in a sense that like Now
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: You See Me, the first one was a really unique,
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: cool concept, and then the other two was like, well,
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 2: now it doesn't These ones aren't as unique because you're
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: just doing what you did and it's not like the
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: other series that you've had where he's like, I don't know,
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't come out of the same way I came
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 2: out with the out of the other Jurassic parks for example,
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 2: Jurassic Worlds. For so most of my play, most of
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: my movie watching now is done on airplanes. Yeah, because
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: I have to travel so much for the PFL, and
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: I will deliberately not see a movie in the theater,
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 2: knowing I'm eventually going to see it on an airplane.
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 3: Got a trip here in a couple of weeks. Yeah,
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 3: And the.
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: Way I judge movies now is almost did it keep
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: me awake on the airplane? Okay? Because if it's a
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: good movie, I'll stay awake. It's not a good movie,
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: I'm falling asleep ten minutes in. Okay, that's that's logical.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 2: And now you see me seven or whatever it was.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: I watched the first ten minutes. I have no idea
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: what happens, So you're probably right. I don't know if
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