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Tolerating Intolerance · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, ninth day of January. I'm Wes. Thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me a lot to cover a lot going on.
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Speaker 2: First and foremost prayers for the people of California as
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Speaker 2: that mess continues to get worse with wildfires raging. The
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Speaker 2: last time I guess a fire of this caliber in
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Speaker 2: the Pacific Palisades nineteen thirty eight, if I'm looking at
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Speaker 2: the correct info there. So it's happened before, but it's
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Speaker 2: been a long time and it is absolutely devastating that area,
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Speaker 2: and it has become a little bit of a of
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Speaker 2: those things where this is where it starts to get complicated.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm a strong advocate for not politicizing
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Speaker 2: things as especially not as they're going on. I'm not
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Speaker 2: typically on the side of that, and because this is
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Speaker 2: currently going on, I understand anyone who would say that
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Speaker 2: maybe it shouldn't be happening, but look, the people that
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Speaker 2: are most impacted directly, Holmes burn lives lost. There's no
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Speaker 2: place for politics when it comes to what they're dealing
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Speaker 2: with the reality here is that there has been a
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Speaker 2: few things that possibly could have prevented this or that
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Speaker 2: possibly could have made it not so severe. And that's
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Speaker 2: some of the questions that I guess that will continue
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Speaker 2: to be asked as we move forward with this. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: the first priority is, you know, trying to get this
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Speaker 2: thing contained and trying to cut back on any more losses,
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Speaker 2: most importantly on lives lost, and then you know, secondly
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Speaker 2: property and all those sorts of things. So let's talk
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Speaker 2: a little bit about the mayor. Let's start with the
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Speaker 2: mayor because a lot of questions are being asked about
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Speaker 2: the mayor. I guess where she's been, Questions about why
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Speaker 2: she was out of the country, I guess. But let's
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Speaker 2: go back a year ago, where, according to reports, she
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Speaker 2: cut the budget for the fire department significantly. Significantly the
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Speaker 2: money was moved apparently. According to reports, it says for
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Speaker 2: the twenty three twenty four fiscal year, LA budgeted eight
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Speaker 2: hundred thirty seven million for the La Fire Department, which
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Speaker 2: was about sixty five percent the size of the budget
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Speaker 2: for the homeless population, which was one point three billion.
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Speaker 2: So I guess money was money for the fire department
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Speaker 2: was reduced by seventeen million, and I guess increased to
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Speaker 2: help the homeless population. There will be questions about that.
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Speaker 2: There will be questions of accountability about that. Would having
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Speaker 2: a stronger fire department, How much would that seventeen million
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Speaker 2: have made a difference in fighting the fires? And how
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Speaker 2: much is the seventeen million actually benefited the homeless population
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Speaker 2: that has grown and grown and gotten worse. So that's
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Speaker 2: the first question that I think people are asking. The
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Speaker 2: second question then comes to the governor, and that's where
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Speaker 2: you get Trump involved. And Trump has been taking shots
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Speaker 2: at Gavin Newsom. And basically this comes down to a
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Speaker 2: situation of the water supply that is needed in other
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Speaker 2: parts of the state being restricted, restricted access to I
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Speaker 2: guess farmers, restricted access to some of the city's larger
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Speaker 2: cities like Los Angeles. So questions about whether or not
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Speaker 2: that water would have been able to somehow prevent this
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Speaker 2: from getting so bad, would have been somehow helpful in
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Speaker 2: fighting I don't know. I don't know exactly how all
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Speaker 2: of this comes into play. We know that there's been
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Speaker 2: a battle going on with water in California. There's been
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Speaker 2: issues of hey, we have to grow all for almond milk,
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Speaker 2: and things like that that's been one of those battles
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Speaker 2: that's been going on there, and even folks on the left,
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Speaker 2: there are some critics on the left that say that's
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Speaker 2: ridiculous and it needs to be distributed around the state
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Speaker 2: and not just to some specific causes are really green causes.
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Speaker 2: If you're pushing for almond milk, it's because you're trying
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Speaker 2: to cut back on the cows and the cow farting
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Speaker 2: and all that as far as the environment goes. So
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Speaker 2: this is a layered thing. That's the reason that you're
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Speaker 2: starting to hear all of this, and it sounds like
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Speaker 2: it's being politicized, and it's a fair question. These are
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Speaker 2: both fair questions to ask. I don't know that you
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Speaker 2: can put in a quantitative amount, like how does the
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Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars having an impact away from the fire department.
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Speaker 2: I would assume we go a long way with seventeen
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Speaker 2: million in a fire department. I would also assume that
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Speaker 2: you could probably get more, especially in this type of crisis,
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Speaker 2: you could probably And I know it's Monday morning quarterback.
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Speaker 2: We've said before about COVID. I said this repeatedly radio
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Speaker 2: and here I've said this so many times about COVID.
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Speaker 2: No one really signed up for it. Nobody knew they
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Speaker 2: were getting into a pandemic situation. Anybody in leadership, they
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Speaker 2: wanted to be in leadership, but they didn't necessarily say
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Speaker 2: we are going to be expecting something like this to happen.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody could really know that this
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Speaker 2: was coming at this level. But you would also know
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Speaker 2: that there have been wildfires before. We've had wildfires at Hawaii. Recently,
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Speaker 2: we've had wildfires in California. This is not completely unheard of.
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Speaker 2: So I would think the seventeen million dollars, there should
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Speaker 2: be some amount of accountability. Will there be Probably not.
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Speaker 2: I would think probably not, And I think too well,
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Speaker 2: especially if you can prove some sort of And I'm
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Speaker 2: trying to be really generous right now, because this isn't
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Speaker 2: me saying let's politicize it. It's just me saying, look,
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Speaker 2: leadership sounds like made some bad decisions, and I think
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Speaker 2: that it's time for voters in California to do what
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Speaker 2: the rest of the country just did, wake up and realize, Look,
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Speaker 2: this isn't working. What we're doing, what we're trying to
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Speaker 2: do isn't working, and there's got to be something better.
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Speaker 2: Are they ever going to wake up to that? No?
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Speaker 2: Probably not. It's not possible for them to just snap
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Speaker 2: out of it and to make the point. And this
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Speaker 2: will transition over to the next thing I was going
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Speaker 2: to talk about is the Bill Maher's podcast that he
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Speaker 2: does where he doesn't really try to talk about politics. Yes,
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Speaker 2: that's the goal is for it to not necessarily be
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Speaker 2: a political show. But he had John Cryer on in
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Speaker 2: this interview to sit down this conversation, if you will,
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Speaker 2: because it's really a conversational sort of podcast. It's not
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Speaker 2: so much overall like, hey, let's grill you on your
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Speaker 2: views on politics. But that's kind of what it turned into.
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Speaker 2: They started talking about a few things and basically Mark
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Speaker 2: kind of saying that wokeism was the reason that Trump
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Speaker 2: won the election. John Cryer didn't seem to agree with that.
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Speaker 2: He thought it was more about inflation, maybe immigration. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. There were a few areas in there that
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Speaker 2: he was you could tell he wanted to say more,
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Speaker 2: but he seemed a little intimidated is not the right word.
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Speaker 2: He seemed more like he was kind of reserving himself
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Speaker 2: because it was almost that feeling of you're in someone
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Speaker 2: else's house and you don't want to, you know, start
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Speaker 2: throwing glass. You don't want to start smashing up wine
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Speaker 2: glasses in someone else's house. Maybe that's sort of how
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Speaker 2: it felt. But there were things you could tell that
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Speaker 2: he wanted to say, and he made little comments under
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Speaker 2: his breath. But I think Mar got off on the
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Speaker 2: wrong foot to begin with because he had forgotten that
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Speaker 2: he and Crier had met, because Crier had been on
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Speaker 2: his old politically and correct show, and Cryer did see.
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Speaker 2: He took it okay, but you could tell he was like,
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Speaker 2: we've met before. I was on your other show a
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Speaker 2: couple times. And Mar had the I think valid excuse
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Speaker 2: of you know, I had thousands of people on that show. Sorry,
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Speaker 2: you know, But still you would think there would have
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Speaker 2: been some discussion somewhere with someone, Hey was he ever
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Speaker 2: on the show? But anyway, that wasn't really the main
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Speaker 2: source of the grief. What it ultimately came down to
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Speaker 2: was conversations about tolerance and intolerance, and basically Mar was
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Speaker 2: talking about neighborhoods like in London, where you know, people
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Speaker 2: are like women are being screamed at and shouted down
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Speaker 2: because they're you know, showing their legs like they're wearing
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Speaker 2: a dress in London and there's you know, neighborhoods with
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Speaker 2: a high Islamic population and they're they don't like the
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Speaker 2: fact that women are showing their their legs and screaming
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Speaker 2: things and shouting of saying, you know, threatening type things
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Speaker 2: at them for doing it. And Mar wanted Crier to
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Speaker 2: say that that was that was wrong, and Crier sort
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Speaker 2: of admitted that, but he said, you know, in general,
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Speaker 2: that shouldn't take place in society. And he's like, well,
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Speaker 2: you know, we have neighborhoods all over the world of
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Speaker 2: groups and you know, they sort of do their own
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Speaker 2: thing and we should respect that. And Mar was kind
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Speaker 2: of taking the stance on no, no women should have freedoms.
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Speaker 2: The women, even in their religion in our countries that
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Speaker 2: are free should have freedoms. And that was ultimately the dispute,
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Speaker 2: and you could tell Crier was trying to be this
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Speaker 2: very open and very tolerant person, and Mar was saying,
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Speaker 2: that's where we went wrong, is that we have this
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Speaker 2: constant feel to be a need to be tolerant, even
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Speaker 2: of intolerance, and that's what those people were that are
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Speaker 2: treating women that way in London and in parts of America,
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Speaker 2: they're intolerant, and that we shouldn't be tolerant of their
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Speaker 2: intolerance and their incomes the discussion because to me, as
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Speaker 2: much as I want to say, yeah, you tell him,
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Speaker 2: Bill Maher and I'm certainly not on the side of
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Speaker 2: John Cryer on this, I think if you're going to
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Speaker 2: live in a country that has freedoms and your religious restrictions,
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Speaker 2: your religious intolerance doesn't allow you to function in that society,
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Speaker 2: then maybe you should think about going somewhere where you
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Speaker 2: can kind of fit in. Maybe you should think about
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Speaker 2: going somewhere where there's religious law instead of governmental law.
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Speaker 2: It's just it would make things easier for you. And
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Speaker 2: the question becomes when people come to a country like
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Speaker 2: that and decide that they want their God, their religion,
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Speaker 2: their faith to dictate how the government will run, and
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Speaker 2: that that's the only way for it to work, you
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Speaker 2: might have some problems. There could be a bit of
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Speaker 2: a problem with the way the government is run. Right.
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Speaker 2: Don't you see where that could get complicated? Don't you
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Speaker 2: see where that could cause some issues when you have
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Speaker 2: people that I don't know, maybe even a kind of
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Speaker 2: revolutionary about it doesn't always work because, you know, for
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Speaker 2: the tolerant. Because we talked about this back when Katar
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Speaker 2: was hosting the World Cup and people said, well they
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Speaker 2: got to allow, you know, somebody to express their disgust
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Speaker 2: with that country's feelings on homosexuality. Well, you're there in
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Speaker 2: their their place. This is their country, this is the
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Speaker 2: way their government works, and they're telling you that you
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Speaker 2: can't show up there and where your rainbow wrist bands. Now,
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Speaker 2: is it understandable that someone might say, hey, we have
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Speaker 2: freedom where we come from, but do we get to
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Speaker 2: tell them what their freedoms should be? I mean that
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Speaker 2: sounds a little bit like, I don't know, colonization. When
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Speaker 2: you show up with your ideas and you tell someone
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Speaker 2: this is what it's supposed to be. That's kind of colonizing,
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Speaker 2: isn't it. So If these people are in London or
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Speaker 2: parts of the US and telling women that have you know,
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Speaker 2: non Muslim women, they can't dress the way they dress,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of the same thing, isn't it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: is that any different than going to Katar and saying, hey,
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Speaker 2: I'm a gay soccer player. My cousin's brother sister is
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Speaker 2: a lesbian and I'm going to be able to wear
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Speaker 2: a wristband it's got a transflag on it while I
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Speaker 2: play soccer and we want to take a knee at
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Speaker 2: the start of the game, and the country hostings like, no, no,
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Speaker 2: you can't do that, right, You're we're not going to
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Speaker 2: allow you to do that. So that's part of it.
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Speaker 2: But then there's also this other thing, this lack of
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Speaker 2: tolerance that people do. And I'm not going to equate
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Speaker 2: a Qatar with anybody like in the US. Maybe that's
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Speaker 2: part of a faith or denomination that doesn't necessarily believe
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Speaker 2: that homosexuality is okay. They have a more traditional view
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Speaker 2: of it and they say that it's wrong, and you
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Speaker 2: think about it. We've had celebrities or I don't know,
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Speaker 2: Baker's priests, pastors, yeah I don't want to do a
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Speaker 2: gay wedding, or a celebrity that says, yeah, I go
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Speaker 2: to that church. Well that church is against homosexuality. Well,
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Speaker 2: I personally don't have a problem with it, but that's
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Speaker 2: the church I go to. That's come up with one
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Speaker 2: celebrity who's very much an A list celebrity who people
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Speaker 2: have said that he goes to a church that believes that,
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Speaker 2: and it's not even the church he goes to. Chris
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Speaker 2: Pratt has taken a beating for a good chunk of
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Speaker 2: his career over this, and he's like, I don't know
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Speaker 2: what you're talking about. But even if he did, why
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Speaker 2: why don't we have issues with that? If that's what
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Speaker 2: his belief structure is, it's not apparently because he says
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Speaker 2: it's not. But you know, so why should we try
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Speaker 2: to force anyone to do something that they don't want
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Speaker 2: to do. If we have Muslim men in London screaming
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Speaker 2: at women that they have to wear pants, and Bill
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Speaker 2: Maher is saying, well, they should have the freedom to
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Speaker 2: do whatever they want to do. They should wear the
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Speaker 2: clothes they want to wear, not pants, but you know,
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Speaker 2: cover their legs up. Well, then why can't a celebrity
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Speaker 2: go to whatever church they want to go to. Why
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Speaker 2: can't a baker decide I don't want to be a
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Speaker 2: part of your wedding. I don't agree with that. This
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Speaker 2: is my personal belief. I'm not going to tell you
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Speaker 2: what to do. I just don't want to participate. Goes
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Speaker 2: back to what I've said to you for years. My
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Speaker 2: basic tenets of conservatism for me. You do whatever you
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Speaker 2: want to do, just don't try to involve me. Don't
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Speaker 2: force me into the game, don't force me into the conduct,
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Speaker 2: don't force me into being a participant. Good for you.
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Speaker 2: You go live your life. You go do what you
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Speaker 2: need to do. You get out there and be the
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Speaker 2: best you that you can be, or the best whoever
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Speaker 2: you've decided you want to be that you can be.
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Speaker 2: That's fine, go do it. But I don't have to participate.
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Speaker 2: I don't have to be involved. And it's this kind
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Speaker 2: of thing that is a big part of what happened
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Speaker 2: in the election. And I think Bill Maher is right
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Speaker 2: about that. I do think there's a lot of frustration
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Speaker 2: with the lack of common sense and the lack of
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Speaker 2: what feels like right and wrong as far as how
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Speaker 2: we treat each other. But it's just interesting that I
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Speaker 2: don't know that either one of them really understands what
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Speaker 2: I don't eat an excessive amount of pickles, but I
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Speaker 2: do like them. I think they're a good quick snack.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes if I have like a maybe like a turkey sandwich.
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Speaker 2: I might put pickles on the side. Now it's not
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Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily going uber healthy with it, because I
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Speaker 2: do often put a little bit of like ranch dressing
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Speaker 2: there that I'll dip in there. It's sort of like
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Speaker 2: having fried pickles without having all the grease. I like pickles.
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Speaker 2: You may have also heard me discuss that I like
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Speaker 2: to take my like spaghetti and meatballs, and I like
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Speaker 2: to put you know, sliced pickles on top. I do.
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Speaker 2: It's good. I enjoy it. I like like a meatball
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Speaker 2: sub with pickles. I like lettuce pickles on my meatball sub.
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Speaker 2: So I like a salad if I have spaghetti and meatballs,
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Speaker 2: but I could just sprinkle the lettuce on top and
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Speaker 2: eat it and put the an I off and put
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Speaker 2: the pickles right on there, and it's great. I love it.
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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of pickles. I don't eat an excessive amount,
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Speaker 2: glitter and pickles MC and it's got to be edible,
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Speaker 2: by the way, still not going to be as good
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Speaker 2: as spaghetti and meatballs with pickles on top. I'm just
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Speaker 2: telling you. I know that to be a fact, because
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Speaker 2: it doesn't change the taste of it. It just looks nice.
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Speaker 2: Recent paul about New Year's resolutions, One of the most
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Speaker 2: popular resolutions for the New Year was to read more books.
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Speaker 2: May sound like a very attainable goal, but recent trends
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Speaker 2: say not so fast. A new Gallop poles that American
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Speaker 2: readers finished about twelve point six books during the past year,
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Speaker 2: the lowest number since nineteen ninety. It's about two or
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Speaker 2: three fewer books than they read between twenty one and
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. The reason for the decline in book reading
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Speaker 2: is most likely due to Americans finding other way to
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Speaker 2: entertain themselves. That's another way of saying scrolling through video shorts,
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Speaker 2: that's exactly what that is. Because I mean, I think
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Speaker 2: the point when I saw my mom doing that, I went, Okay,
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Speaker 2: this is now hitting the broad spectrum of generations, right,
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Speaker 2: just scrolling through videos, and my mom's not sending as
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Speaker 2: many to me as I send to other people, but
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Speaker 2: she's been sending them to me as well. And I
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Speaker 2: love it. I'm all for it, but I think that
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Speaker 2: might have something to do with it. All right, The
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five a diet, if you're trying to have
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Speaker 2: that as a resolution, may may be coming to an
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Speaker 2: end soon. Girl Scout Cookie season has officially begun. The
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Speaker 2: one hundred twelve year old organization has an important message
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Speaker 2: to fans of Girl Scouts s'mores and tote yas toast yas.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I left off the s BYM and Bulk
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Speaker 2: this year because they're going away. Girl Scouts often make
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Speaker 2: changes to the cookie lineup, and after an evaluation of
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Speaker 2: current offerings, they've decided to drop those two flavor toast
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Speaker 2: Ya's and s'mores in order to make room for new innovations.
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Speaker 2: Fans of the classic flavors like thin mints, samoas, tagalongs,
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Speaker 2: you've got nothing to worry about. Those aren't going anywhere
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Speaker 2: at all, So just take a breath. Unless you're a
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Speaker 2: big fan of s'mores and the toast yas. I don't
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Speaker 2: know that I've ever had a toast yas, never even
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Speaker 2: heard I mean, I guess I've heard of it, but
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Speaker 2: you know I'd mispronounced it. That's how not in the
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Speaker 2: no I am on that. And finally, a so relating
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Speaker 2: to resolutions, if you want to make your resolution stick,
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Speaker 2: experts say that you basically make a family member or
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Speaker 2: friend aware. New survey says forty five percent have done that,
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Speaker 2: and that puts some accountability so you don't get off track.
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Speaker 2: They say a resolution buddy will help you achieve your goals.
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Speaker 2: Whether it's a friend, a partner, maybe your kid, somebody
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Speaker 2: that's going to be there to help keep you in check.
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Speaker 2: That's a good strategy. I think, eat more pickles on
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Speaker 2: your spaghetti and meatballs. I promise it's good. I promise
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Speaker 2: you think it's weird. I know you're judging me right now,
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Speaker 2: but it's really good. It just like a meatball sub.
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Speaker 2: That'll do it. Get some garlic bread involved. Oh, it's
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Speaker 2: really good. That'll do it. For this Thursday edition of
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