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Ep. 516: Huntin' Ducks and Bussin' With The Boys · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,
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  Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listeningcast.
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  Speaker 2: You can't predict anything.
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  Speaker 1: dot com. F I R S T L I T
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  Speaker 1: E dot com. Uh, when I was is she not?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Phil? You can record this. You just started now and
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  Speaker 1: you just started it, and I want to first I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say we're joined today by the host of Busting
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  Speaker 1: with the Boys on the Barstool Podcast Network, Taylor Curtis Lewin.
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  Speaker 4: How do you like to say, Taylor Lawan, But my
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  Speaker 4: whole life it's all good.
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  Speaker 3: New ground comeback. Yeah, just churching it up, dirt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you only got a little something.
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  Speaker 1: And uh will earl Oh my god, this makes you
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  Speaker 1: sound pretentious.
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  Speaker 3: William earle.
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  Speaker 1: Yes was like, give me some of that money. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Oh what was? I had two things because just before
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  Speaker 1: the show started we were talking about rock and roll,
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  Speaker 1: and we're talking about when your song if you're a
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  Speaker 1: rocker like you'r Nirvana or Pearl Jam or whatever, like
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  Speaker 1: so you're cool like a long time ago, and then
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  Speaker 1: one day you wake up in your classic rock and
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  Speaker 1: and that being disconcerting. And I was going to point
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  Speaker 1: out in talking about how adaptable classic rock is. The
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  Speaker 1: f M station where I grew up, ninety four point
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  Speaker 1: five K would do now and then they would do
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  Speaker 1: that like thousand Greatest Rock Songs, which is you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's like a thing that brings the country together.
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  Speaker 1: But kl Q would jump in and do an editorial insert,
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  Speaker 1: so you know it's gonna end like for weeks, you're
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  Speaker 1: driving down the road knowing this is gonna land at
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  Speaker 1: Stairway to Heaven. But they would add number two, put
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  Speaker 1: in Uncle Ted's Fred Bear Fred.
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  Speaker 3: Is a Jam.
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  Speaker 1: They would they would stick that in just to stick
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  Speaker 1: it to the man and say it's no stairway to Heaven,
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  Speaker 1: but it's definitely better than hate Jude.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Hey, Fred Bears a Jam? Now, yeah, that's like
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  Speaker 3: the first Hunting song I grew up listening to.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's funny when VHS right, You're like, oh
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  Speaker 5: that it's hunting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want.
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  Speaker 1: To learn more about this Fred Bear guy, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have we gotta hang tight a minute. What
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  Speaker 1: did we gotta do? Right off the top of the
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  Speaker 1: bat And you guys might like this we're doing this
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  Speaker 1: year we let our We used to license music for
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  Speaker 1: the end of the show. You guys do that with
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so now do you just ended? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Got this little riff.
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  Speaker 3: I think a guy named Drew Dixon did it for us.
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  Speaker 3: One we use now is from Ernest. Yeah, Ernest.
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  Speaker 4: Ernest came on the bus and he had did a
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  Speaker 4: little acoustic jam and put it together.
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  Speaker 3: That's the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: But that little guitar riff at the end, I'm pretty
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  Speaker 4: sure it was like Drew Dixon, who was like, guys
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  Speaker 4: a singer songwriter in Nashville have been working in the
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  Speaker 4: like a tin roof to bar on d Mumbrian Street forwever.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have to license that every year, you just
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  Speaker 1: got it.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't know about it at first because Quicker City
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  Speaker 3: Nighthawks was the very first one.
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  Speaker 1: We would use.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then do you hear about all the copyright
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  Speaker 3: and stuff? And then we tried to mess with him,
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  Speaker 3: but then they didn't want to mess with us. But
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  Speaker 3: then when we kind of became popular, they wanted to
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  Speaker 3: come back, and we're kind of like, oh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta gotta get in when we get in
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  Speaker 4: good Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, point being uh we are. We had licensed to
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  Speaker 1: a song that no one really liked it, but it
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  Speaker 1: just meant something to me. And then we let the
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  Speaker 1: license expire and we told our audience that from now on,
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  Speaker 1: we're only gonna outro with music that they write and
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  Speaker 1: send in. So it's just gonna be never ending runs
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  Speaker 1: of musicians that wrote music for us and sent it in.
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  Speaker 1: So this one I like so much that I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to just outro it. I want to intro the outro.
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  Speaker 4: Both you do a quinin Tarantina situation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're starting.
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  Speaker 1: At watch watching moment. We're gonna intro the outro. Are
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  Speaker 1: you ready? Phil?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta pulled up.
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  Speaker 1: Phil is gonna let's hear it, Philly. M guys sent this.
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  Speaker 3: In, wrote it just for this.
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  Speaker 5: That's like young guns.
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  Speaker 6: That surprised me.
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  Speaker 1: Wait for the elk bugle, though, you wait for the
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  Speaker 1: elk bugle.
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  Speaker 6: God may.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, there it is, dude. I'm telling you what you
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  Speaker 1: turned off?
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  Speaker 5: Now Phil, it's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: Hot tip brandy musicians man throwing out bugle into your metal.
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  Speaker 1: It's like with cooks, throw a little butter in her.
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  Speaker 1: You throw some elk bugles into your music and you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be kicking ass. Who's that?
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  Speaker 7: This is by Jesse Collins, who's a local Boson, Montana resident.
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  Speaker 7: He's from here. And in case you were not able
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  Speaker 7: to decipher the lyrics, the lyrics are hunting, fishing, cooking, conserving,
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  Speaker 7: and then the next one live to hunt to live,
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  Speaker 7: and then the last line, which we something near and
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  Speaker 7: cut before anyone could hear it is fresh set of
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  Speaker 7: eyes finds more beans.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to open a Christmas present real quick.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's behind you.
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  Speaker 3: That's from It's not even.
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  Speaker 5: For those of you who forgot to get on the
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  Speaker 5: YouTube version.
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  Speaker 1: Here, this is a huge Can you open it? You
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  Speaker 1: work opening? It's sure, we listen. Listeners of the show
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  Speaker 1: remember when we participated.
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  Speaker 5: Now this is great. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: So listeners of the show will remember when we had
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  Speaker 1: some some pale some anthropologists on the show. We participated.
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  Speaker 1: Cal was there? Who all was there? Cal Clay in
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  Speaker 1: this room?
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  Speaker 5: Grin was there?
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  Speaker 1: Max Maximilman Krinn was there. Uh We we participated in
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  Speaker 1: and in butchering a buffalo with stone tools in cooperation
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  Speaker 1: with anthropologists and archaeologists and a palaeontologist from uh. It
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  Speaker 1: was it was Texas, Texas. Why why am I struggling
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  Speaker 1: so much?
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  Speaker 5: I thought the Ohio State Southern.
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  Speaker 7: Methodist s m U and then Kent State Universe, Kent.
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  Speaker 1: State University, Oregon State University, and we participated in a
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  Speaker 1: project of we butchered. We were we were expert butchers
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  Speaker 1: and butchered a buffalo with stone tools replicas of ice
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  Speaker 1: age tool assemblages. And this present came in the mail.
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  Speaker 7: It's very delicate.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, do you have any idea what this is?
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  Speaker 1: I really don't.
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  Speaker 2: Really, it's gonna take time.
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  Speaker 3: This end is brittle.
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  Speaker 5: Taylor, you can't help. We've already been over this. Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: Is the don't rip the wrapping paper person.
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  Speaker 4: I like to save the anticipation.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Steve, you want to grab the which.
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  Speaker 5: Is a great way to think about that because I've
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  Speaker 5: never thought about it that way. Like what you like
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  Speaker 5: is that.
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  Speaker 3: Christmas you get to.
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  Speaker 4: Spend that extra Okay, this might be that thing I really.
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  Speaker 1: Want So this is from the Kent State University Experimental
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  Speaker 1: Archaeology Lab.
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  Speaker 4: The Golden Flashes and many apologies to people who are
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  Speaker 4: listening and not watching.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta get on the YouTube train for those.
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  Speaker 1: Well do you think it sounds good that this loud
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  Speaker 1: paper noise to people at home?
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  Speaker 5: I love it. I think it creates intrigue. People will
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  Speaker 5: get online to see what's bubble wrap?
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  Speaker 1: Come hang out with my kids. I'll put you in
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  Speaker 1: a big room full bubble wrap, and you guys can
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  Speaker 1: just have a home.
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  Speaker 5: See you four hours later.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think anything broke.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be a.
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  Speaker 5: Spear, right, Well, we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that says a happy news spear. And now I
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  Speaker 1: remember saying I wanted some spears. Oh my goodness, there's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be some bloodshed in this room.
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  Speaker 8: There there are maybe eight different layers of wrapping papers.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you did a good job. Well, I didn't realize
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  Speaker 7: it was gonna take this long.
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  Speaker 1: You got a free towel out of it.
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  Speaker 5: A couple of free towels.
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  Speaker 1: I don't go shower up.
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  Speaker 7: All right, Steve, I think you should do the honors.
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  Speaker 5: When we're no I'm watching, We're gonna get those towels
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  Speaker 5: in the auction house oddities.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, look at that.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are doing great work.
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  Speaker 4: Get a Christmas gift.
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  Speaker 3: Noodles.
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  Speaker 5: You guys got it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm enjoying watching my present be open.
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  Speaker 1: We got we got new towels, we got new pool noodles.
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  Speaker 3: This is really ship I should have at least partially.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Krin does some good producing and some poor producing,
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  Speaker 1: and this would be in the this would be in
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  Speaker 1: this is not a four point five or.
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  Speaker 4: The explanation.
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  Speaker 7: Can you're so close? Yeah, sorry audience for my terrible producing.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe lay over that song again.
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  Speaker 6: You can probably still play an end.
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  Speaker 5: These pool noodles, for folks who don't haven't happened on
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  Speaker 5: this trick yet, are super awesome for pre building h
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  Speaker 5: any sort of fishing rig with a leader.
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  Speaker 1: And just just to keep people entertaining while we open this.
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  Speaker 1: If you're if you got pre rig mooching rigs, you
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  Speaker 1: can stick your banana sinker in the end, right, stick
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  Speaker 1: your banana sinker in the pool new and then wrap
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  Speaker 1: the mooch leader around that pool noodle and fasten the
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  Speaker 1: hooks into it. So I think it more.
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  Speaker 6: Self to talk about the pool noodles are also good
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  Speaker 6: for floating too.
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  Speaker 1: I see that, I can see that.
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  Speaker 7: Some pools present is revealed a couple of good walking sticks.
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  Speaker 1: This is you right here, package you.
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  Speaker 5: And snoop, snort, stink, damn it. The whole role is.
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  Speaker 2: Be careful now.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be sharp.
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  Speaker 5: I think for the amount of time it took to goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that is badass, ladies, and John, that was worth
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  Speaker 1: the way.
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  Speaker 7: These are Clovis point tip hunting spears by Metton and
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  Speaker 7: a former student. The points were hafted by a former
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  Speaker 7: student of his, Michael.
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  Speaker 5: Wilson Holy Cats.
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  Speaker 7: Two of them are English flint, procured by him from
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  Speaker 7: the White Chalk Cliffs of southern England.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: And then the third one is Georgetown chirt from Texas.
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  Speaker 7: It's the same kind of shirt we used in the experiment,
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  Speaker 7: and the wood is a pine treated pine shaft.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you guys really well. So you're the
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  Speaker 1: ones I'm thinking about when I think about just want.
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  Speaker 3: Just he's looking at you. The game.
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  Speaker 1: Is ribs man, Max.
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  Speaker 5: Can I see that that big hoss there?
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Gonna keep working down our list.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody ask you to move that spear that you leaned
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  Speaker 5: right in front of the camera.
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  Speaker 1: Fellow, this is the part of this is part of
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  Speaker 1: this part of the show where we we do listener comments. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Fella wrote in says twenty twenty three, is this is
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  Speaker 1: more bad producing? Good producer would have gone in there
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  Speaker 1: and wrote was. But this was.
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  Speaker 7: A quote from the guy. He wrote in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: You would a good producer would have wrote sick sick
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  Speaker 1: after that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, as I say, it's got toppy with a writer.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three is considered this is a listener thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is a good question. Twenty twenty three is considered
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  Speaker 1: a masked year where acorn product acorn, where acorn production
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  Speaker 1: and other nut trees have upwards of five times their
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  Speaker 1: typical production. I've never seen anything like the amount of
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  Speaker 1: acorns produced this year. I would love to hear the
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  Speaker 1: crew discuss their thoughts on the impact of a masked
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  Speaker 1: year on dear harvest. He says, not to take his
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  Speaker 1: word for this. Deer harvest across the Midwest this year
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  Speaker 1: is way down, and the only consistent common theme I
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  Speaker 1: can find is that it's a mass year. I've hunted
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  Speaker 1: the same fields in central Wisconsin for twenty years and
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  Speaker 1: always see twenty to thirty deer out every night about
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  Speaker 1: an hour before sunset. And this is the first year
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  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing hardly any coming out to feed in
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  Speaker 1: the fields. But when you go through the woods, you
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  Speaker 1: jump all kinds of deer. I'll buy that if you.
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  Speaker 5: I think Pat Dirkin wrote it up. I think Michigan's
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  Speaker 5: one of the states that's us pretty significant hunter decline.
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  Speaker 5: Hunter participation decline for this season. So that's a reason
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  Speaker 5: for he can't have a lot of deer dying by
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  Speaker 5: hunters if there's not a lot of hunters out.
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  Speaker 1: There, huh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then as we talked about, you want some real
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  Speaker 5: patients and sit in a tree and watch nothing happen.
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  Speaker 5: Get out of your tree, man.
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  Speaker 1: What are they attributing the decline?
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  Speaker 5: Well, if it's a really significant number, if you go
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  Speaker 5: back to like I think there's a peak sometime in
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  Speaker 5: the nineties, early nineties.
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  Speaker 1: Not the COVID pandemic, No.
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  Speaker 5: Like a significant peak. You'll have to eat old Padnerkins article.
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  Speaker 5: I think he wrote it up for the Meat Eater
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  Speaker 5: dot Com. I will a little little website you might
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  Speaker 5: be familiar with I.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I could say about this what he's what
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  Speaker 1: he's talking about is you'll find that people have a
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  Speaker 1: tendency because people that are driving to work, driving around,
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  Speaker 1: you see deer in a field. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys are gonna like they just instinctively are gonna go
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  Speaker 1: sit the field edge.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's just why I'm go sit the edge of the
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  Speaker 1: field and wash the field because I see deer out
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  Speaker 1: in the field. So yeah, the fact that there's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of food would I'm trying to say, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that there's a ton of food in the woods would
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  Speaker 1: absolutely affect all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: They don't have to expose themselves because there's plenty of
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  Speaker 5: food undercover.
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  Speaker 1: They don't need to take risk. Talk talk to Clay.
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  Speaker 1: When I was when I was saying acorns and not acorns,
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  Speaker 1: I was goofing on Clay. You talked to Clay about
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  Speaker 1: when it is a good master here because well, he
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  Speaker 1: likes to talk about it because it gives them more
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  Speaker 1: chances to say acrons.
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  Speaker 8: This is a Clay conversation. Yeah, it really likes and
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  Speaker 8: have a lot of fun with that.
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  Speaker 1: He likes any conversation that involves acrons.
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  Speaker 6: Clay successful on one of these years.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know that he's always looking for
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  Speaker 1: a tree that's rain and acorns.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, is it?
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  Speaker 7: Is it kind of like nationally across the country or
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  Speaker 7: it's a certain area this.
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  Speaker 1: Man, this is I don't I'm just reading.
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  Speaker 3: This so I'm trying to keep up. So there's an
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  Speaker 3: over there's a surplus of acorns out there, and the
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  Speaker 3: deer is staying in the trees and not out of
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  Speaker 3: the field.
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  Speaker 1: This is an actual thing here.
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  Speaker 3: This is a real thing. No.
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  Speaker 1: No, what I'm saying is bumper crops of acorns is
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  Speaker 1: a real thing. Have you have you ever heard with
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  Speaker 1: with you ever heard of the thing predator swamping? No,
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  Speaker 1: So if you look at wildlife populations that are very
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  Speaker 1: singed and when they reproduce, the thinking is one of
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  Speaker 1: the advantages of being very synchronized is that the abundance
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  Speaker 1: of food overwhelms predators and some of that stuff is
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  Speaker 1: gonna Like if lay a big group of ground nesting birds,
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  Speaker 1: they all lay at the same time, some of them
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  Speaker 1: are going to survive predation. But if you were to
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  Speaker 1: if they were going to all lay over the course
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  Speaker 1: of two months and you had a population of predators
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  Speaker 1: pursuing those eggs. It's like they have a greater chance
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  Speaker 1: of just finding them because it's a slowly rolling out
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  Speaker 1: food source. So they use this term predator swamping, meaning
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  Speaker 1: animals that get in a big group and all drop
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  Speaker 1: their young at once. Then predators will get some, but
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  Speaker 1: they'll the animals, the babies will quickly be up and
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  Speaker 1: running about and it's a higher it's more likely to survive. Okay, trees.
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  Speaker 1: We had a guy sitting in the seat you're sitting in,
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  Speaker 1: well all right, a forester, and he came on and
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  Speaker 1: explained to us was that guy's name. He's a good guest,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Snyders. He came on and explained to us that
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  Speaker 1: they find something similar occurs in populations communities of trees
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  Speaker 1: where the oaks will for whatever reason now and then
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  Speaker 1: just totally kick ass and predator swamp the acorns. And
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  Speaker 1: you can go into stands of mature trees and find
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of those trees as old as they
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  Speaker 1: are have the same birthday, meaning there's years that are
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  Speaker 1: just really good. They drop so many acorns, and then
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  Speaker 1: you get a bunch of recruitment. You get a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of oak recruitment because deer didn't eat all the damn things.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you follow them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not something I've picked up through observation.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: This was just explained to me.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: So out here. Elk or like the example that I
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: think makes the most sense to people. Elk calves first
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: forty eight hours on the ground most susceptible to predation.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Then basically every minute past that forty eight hour mark,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: they're more and more capable of getting up and hauling
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: ass and running away. So if you think about making
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: a tackle, right, every tackle takes that pursuit, angle, impact, recovery, reset,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: and do it all over again.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: It all takes time. So all the predators are out
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: there trying to make these open field tackles on these calves,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: and that all takes time and of it. You know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: they all can't be tackling everyone at the same time.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Got you changes.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: A angles change, and there's more of them. There's balls
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: popping up and everything.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: This viewer who wrote this, and he's talking.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: About acorns, he used acorns.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Sorry, is this is it a big deal? Is this
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: as a problem?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Well, he like many, like many good outdoors me, he's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a curious student of the woods, and so he's just
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I think he's just curious. I think that that I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: think that it would be a big deal if you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: found that you had a really low deer harvest, because
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it would be is it that there's no deer around?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Or is it that something else changed? But worth worthy
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of discussion. But I think that he's just throwing it
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: out there. But it brings up this this issue I'm
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: thinking of, is just backing it up by this idea
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that that masting trees will seem to like you don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: imagine two different trees are talking to each other, you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, I don't know how they how
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: it becomes decided by a stand of oh, that it
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: becomes decided that this year is the year we're all
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: going to just rain down acorns. I have no idea.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I'd love to understand it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: On the successful hunter side of things, there are groups
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: of hunters that will, for whatever reason, be more happy
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: complaining about the fact that there's so many acorns in
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: the woods that the deer won't come out of the
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: woods and that's why hunting sucks this year. For whatever reason,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: that is more satisfying to them than changing their stand
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: location to be in the woods.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: That makes sense, right, I love to complain.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, it's probably the people that are complaining about this,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: or probably the people that didn't harvest the deer this
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: year's Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Normally I go out the first weekend and the first morning,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: this is what happens. And it didn't happen this year.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: So something is majorly wrong.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Guy wrote in this is a good one. You want
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to talk about stuff that matters. I'm waiting while I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: was asking them, no, when you said that to someone,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you're not asking them no, was the guy wrote in. Now,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: we we've covered on and off the the ins and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: outs of New Jersey experimenting with a bear hunt. They
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: had a bear hunt, they lost a bear hunt. They
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: got the bear hunt back, thank goodness. They have the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: highest density I think of any state bears per unit
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: of space of any state. But this guy said, there's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: a professional harasser. There's a woman and she has a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: little posse of people. She does adjacent to a large
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: block of state land where guys will hunt, and she'll
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: she and this little anti hunter posse will go out
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and harass hunters who are coming out of the woods
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: with a bear, and this guy says him and his
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: buddy got a bear. They they put it on a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: log Indian style, he says with his fern, like tying
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it feet down to a log. When I've done that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in the past, I find it sways in a very
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: irritating fashion. If you're ever out there doing this, get
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: two logs. Put one over each of your shoulder, because
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: when you put it on one log, it just starts
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: to get Yeah, it's like a pendulum. They hike it
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: out four miles and low and behold. They run into
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a group of people and so he says that we
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: do what you're doing any hiking trail and we go
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: how you guys doing today, and then proceeded to just
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: get harassed and then docks. You guys know what that means.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: I keep seeing the word pop up. I don't know
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: what it means.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: So they the this, this this posse of anti hunters
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: doxes them because they get their licensed plight numb and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: there are images that they can put on social media.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: They reached out to a game warden who said that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: they would look into it, and he's like, what can
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: someone do. That is just that's just cat that is
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: categorically illegal. I mean even New Jersey. Even New Jersey
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: has a hunter harassment law. You can't if someone's legally hunting,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: it's illegal to come up and annoy them or harass
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: them or try to molest their hunt. It's just like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: it's just illegal. If this is true. I'm just taking
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: us at face value. If this is true and someone
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: said blew you off, like, oh, I'll take a look
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: into it, it's just it's just it's not it's if
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it's as presented, it's just a it's just a thing
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: where that you can't do that that's illegal, that should
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: not happen to you.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: Maybe hunters in each state should get to know and
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: read the codified anti hunter laws in their respective states.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Antment harassment laws, yes.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Because it is like a stupid wording thing, right, like
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: these people didn't interfere with the hunt. They just harassed
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: them when they came out of the woods with the bear,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: which you know may not make it by the eyes
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: of the law of people the way it's written.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would continually be posting pictures of bear ham
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: smoking and bear chili and talking about the amount of
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: people you fed with that bear.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I like that cal Yeah, doctor Randall, what did you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: determine about the quail article?
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: I was waiting for the uh the payoff?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: There? Did you who scratched it out?
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: I just removed it because we seem to have skipped it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: But I want to say a thing of interest from
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the Yeah, there's this article we're taking a look at.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: It's about Tennessee's quail comeback and AI, and the article tries,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: in very tenuous fashion, in my view, to link the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: use of AI with a quail comeback and I, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the relationship is not how would you put it, there's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: no correlation.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: However, it's an interesting thing to do surveys to try
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to locate quail which have been which are their numbers
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: are doing a little bit better in Tennessee. In certain
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: places in Tennessee, as some people know, and many people
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: in the South, have experienced Bob White quail numbers or
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: have been at just depressingly low levels across a lot
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of the traditional range. Too many, too many reasons why
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to name them all? Some people point to fire ants,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: some people point to fire suppression. What am I missing?
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Changes in trapping oh, too.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Many mid size Yeah, a lot of mid sized predators
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: because fur prices have been so low.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And on and on.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: They just talking about guys. Research is being to put
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: AI to use. Every time you read about AI, you
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: feel like, oh my god, it's so scary. They're coming
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: from my job. But here they're using AI to go
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: out and take recordings, just recording ambient sound. Right, So
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you can place a recording device out in some habitat
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and it records all the ambient sound. You imagine, well,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: what are you going to do now? You hire some
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: grad student to listen to tens of thousands of hours
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: of ambient sound recordings to be like, oh, there's one
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I heard a quail, right, and then log where it
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was and when it was. And these researchers are able
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to take all of this. They got forty some listening devices.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: They're able to take all of that and use AI
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to scrub out and identify the sounds of quail.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: And so it makes a case that this gives them
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: a better understanding of or it's a more useful way.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: To closer to actual population.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but it doesn't actually explain how it causally impacts it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Doesn't say how quail or recovering?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Right was the fun? Well, yeah, this brings up one
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: of my favorite things about media, And I could say
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: this in media, the headline that really over promises.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, are you aware of the story. I've done
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: a bunch of work with Pheasants Forever and quail Forever
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: and greatly respect the organization. And when you're around they
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: employ hundreds, literally one hundreds of biologists at that conservation organization,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: and when you're around a group of these the story
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: always pops up. In the spring, they do a lot
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: of nesting surveys. They try to get a general population survey,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: and then they can submit those numbers and then the
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: state can change the harvest regulations for those individual species. So,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: like Steve was saying with quail, trying to listen for quail,
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: well they also listen. They do visual counts with pheasants,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: and they used to team up with all their world
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: a lot of that today.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: They used to team up with a lot of rural
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: mail carriers, okay and so, and they have these very
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: specific that sly do this very specific criteria of at
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: this time in the morning, you drive this stretch your
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: own and you drive it this fast, and then you
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: report either what you see in the case of pheasants,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: or what you hear. And in this case, the famous
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: kind of study that they talk about, or the instance
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: rather is on rough grouse because they get out and
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: they and they drum and they display sounds like you're
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: trying to.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Start an old lawnmoarder. I can do it perfectly ready.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: No, that's not it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: It's more like this co to get focus together in
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: the zone like flow state.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: No, it's like it's like, no Max had it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: So I want to say this is northern it's either
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: Michigan or Minnesota. I apologize for mixing the m states
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: up there, but it's Michigan or Minnesota. And you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: thirty year career of a rural male route carrier.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: That's a that's such a I never thought of that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: This is a genius thing to do. I'm always impressed
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: when how long you had a shop, He's like, I've
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: been driving his rolls for twenty years. You've seen a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: lot est.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the counts are always dismal, dismal, dismal, dismal.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: First you be like, do you hunt pheasants? Because if
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you hunt pheasants. You don't get to participate. You're not
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the real carrier nothing I have seen nothing, not one
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: shocking help you there.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: Are, and then come around next time and have a
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: banner pheasant year.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: This particular dude just flat out couldn't hear it was
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: just freaking death. Could not hear that. Yeah, and so
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: you hear that story often in that circle. So that's
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: where AI cam cam come in handy and eliminates the uh,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: the bias.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: You can call it a little quality control.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you a quick story, nothing to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: do with any of this, but I keep thinking about it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: As Clay was talking to a this don in Arkansas.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Is this family's old guys and they really had just
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: their long run of killing giant bucks, and other people
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: would just get jealous and pissed. And so what you're doing.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: You're jealous of someone, you start like rumors about them.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And Clay says, one of these old guys, you know
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of people say that you killed all those
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: bucks at night, And the guy says, you know how
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: hard it is to kill one of those bucks in
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the daytime? Can you imagine doing it in the dark.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: That's pretty funny.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Here's a big news. Are we doing this right? We're
• 32:17
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• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the Meat Eater, Fish and Game Cookbook, which big best seller.
• 32:30
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• 32:32
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• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Would you say it's bad when there's a sophomore effort?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Is that always negative?
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: And it's it's kind of a test. It's you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: like a ban will put out a record it's great,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: and that's like, well, let's see how their second one
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: and goes.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: I think this is I think that's just a I mean,
• 32:50
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• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like a benchmark for the sophomore.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Just I think it's just like an order, you know, like.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Order got it. So it's not like passingerudgment. Yeah. I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: feel like I read like like the sophomore album didn't do.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Well what they call it to fall separate.
• 33:10
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• 33:14
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• 33:18
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• 33:22
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• 33:30
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• 33:34
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• 33:41
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• 33:48
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• 33:50
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• 33:55
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• 34:13
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• 34:16
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• 34:20
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• 34:24
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• 34:26
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• 34:30
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• 34:32
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• 34:43
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• 35:03
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• 35:14
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• 35:16
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• 35:17
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• 35:21
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• 35:31
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• 35:33
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• 35:36
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• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Hell, Yeah, I didn't mean that, would you say? April
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: twenty ninth, I gotta get that for the old man
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• 36:26
  Speaker 3: You don't have to start pushing this even more a
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: month before Father's Day.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna push it heavy. This is just a
• 36:31
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• 36:34
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• 36:35
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• 36:46
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• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Really m hmm, like just in case there was a fire, or.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: We're doing some of the stuff in the summer, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and and just because of various issues. But I'm saying
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: that's the kind of cookbook this is.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: They also make fire photography.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of ways to burn your fingers.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: That should have been the subtitle. Well, let me give
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you a couple for instances, how to take a we
• 37:11
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• 37:17
  Speaker 1: how to cook venison shoulders, venison legs in a half
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of an oil drum. How to put whole ducks and
• 37:26
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• 37:32
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• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of birds roasting on sticks around the fire. But also
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: how to throw a kick ass catfish fry so rick
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: really technical stuff that like that requires a lot of
• 37:46
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• 37:51
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• 37:55
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• 37:57
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• 37:58
  Speaker 3: This is it. What's your favorite Uh? What's the most
• 38:01
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• 38:03
  Speaker 1: My favorite one in there isn't even in there, but
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: there's pictures of it in there. Is no It's like
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: one of those things you can't really it's not really
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a recipe, but it's the thing you talk about. There's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: two because they both involved contraptions that I like a lot.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: When where I grew up, it was you would you
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: would like if you got married, if your kid graduated
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: from high school, if you turn forty, you would throw
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: a pig roast. You would host a pig roast where
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you take a whole hog and and you know, put
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the apple in its mouth and cook the pig. Yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: so we do. We have a great little welded up
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: contraption for doing that and talk about that. But it's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: not so much a recipe, it's like a it's a
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: procedure for a recipe. One of my favorite things is
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: if you ever go down when you're in Mexico, particularly
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: down the Yucatan peninsula, and you see that they're making
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: those tacos l pastor where they have that that vertical
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: spit meat the meat rock. Ye, a vertical spit mounted
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: with lakelayers of mounted with layers down there. It's like
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: layers of pork and a pineapple sits on top of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the spit and there's a vertical heat source and so
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: it spins and then they cut tacos out of that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: So that sounds incredible.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: No, that's really cool. Tacos l pastor. And I have
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: my buddy Ronnie made me my own one when I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: got married, and that very uh, it's called a trompo,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and that very trompo I aftermarket rigged it with a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: motor so you don't have to turn it by hand.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: But that very trompo is in the book. And it's
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: how to make your own tacos l pastor so you
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: can be like Mexico and have a sweet taco party
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: with what we use deer meat. Deer meat on a
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: vertical spit. It's incredible looking, it's a real sight. It's
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: got a eye appeal.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: And then didn't make the book just depends.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: On that that's in the book. That's very detailed description
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: in the book. Roast is like it's like it's just
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the thing you got to talk people through.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a process, right, yeah, the.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Whole is it? Seventy five pounds is two hundred pounds? Yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: phenomenal book. All right, we return to our guests now,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Will Taylor, how do you guys want to talk about
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: your careers, your other careers, your pre col Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, ball, we can talk. We can talk ball.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: We went to ball.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't then you feel bad the whole time, like, man,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: we were pretty worthless and all these huntings.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a level of like, uh,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: because you get you guys are doers, Like I think
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: of us as like animals that live in houses and
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: that our parents got Relled's like, hey, we're done with
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: these animals. They took us out in the woods and
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: then we met you guys out door dogs first time.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: They start talking abou all this shit, and we're like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: oh my god, we really have no idea what we're
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: doing here. But yeah, yeah, yeah, football, we did that.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: So I played. I was at the Titans from twenty
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: fourteen until twenty twenty two, and that's where Will and
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I met. But as I told you guys before the show,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: I grew up in Arizona, went to the University of Michigan,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: who I don't know when the show's coming out, but
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: they are playing in the National Championship on Monday.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Do you still feel an affinity?
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: So when I first left Michigan, I didn't at all.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I was kind of anti Michigan. And then well, when
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I was there was like oh nine to thirteen, which
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: is when we were just terrible, we're awful football team,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: and I and I get drafted. I was kind of,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: oh whatever, And I play with these guys that went
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: to Alabama Georgia, Clemson, like all these teams that are
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: like winning national championships over and over again, and they
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: had like all this big pride. And when we got
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Jim Harball, I started to feel a little bit more pride.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: And then he started doing that. I was like, you know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: get this guy out of here. What do we do?
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: This guy needs to go. And now, like this is
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: actually the first year, even before the year, I chose
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: to be like a fan I want. I wanted to
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: buy into being a fan of football and like watch
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: a sport being like my first year out of football.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of a natural progression. You know. If
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you imagine you grow up somewhere, all you want to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: do is get out of there. You get out of there,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and then later you nostalgia and you're like, I should
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: just move back through with my kids.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: That's exactly that you nailed it.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Because when I was in Arizona growing up, I was
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: like the desert ugly, it's not fun here. I want
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: to go somewhere, somewhere the four seasons end up going
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: to mission. My first winter, I had a pair of
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Vans on probably the same jeans I'm wearing now, in
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: a zip up hooding, I was like, perfect winter. Yeah, literally,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: I like saw snow like two times in my life.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: The first one, I was like, if there was a
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: transfer portal, which is now. I don't how familiar guys
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: are with college football, but you can literally leave whenever
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: you want. Essentially, if that was established, I would have
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: sent my ass back to Arizona. And I heardfully, thankfully
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: it wasn't established yet. But now as I've gotten older,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, something about an Arizona sunset, the desert,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: the climate, everything is it's it's beautiful. We were talking
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: about Cave Creek. It's like the only place in the
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: world where you'll find like an old horse, a truck
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: in a ferrari in the same parking lot, and you
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: just it's just such a unique, cool town. And so
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: there is that level of nostalgia for sure.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you had bad you had some like
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: bad ish injuries.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, uh, more so recently though mostly recently.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: So.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I actually was extremely lucky, Like in college.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Were told me today about getting getting knocked out.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was fun. That was your bell wronging
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: your bell rung.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that that could happen. He was telling
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: me that Taylor was telling me he got hit in
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the way and this is the thing that happens to
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: people where you come to in your emotional.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Emotional They just told him that to make him feel
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: better about.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Good emotions.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Hurry up and get off. Yeah, was saying that when
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: he said he's lucky at one point and please don't
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: let me give it this wrong. So jump in. You
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: were with the Titans for seven years, nine nine years
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: and at one point every year counts count Oh yeah, man,
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: you were like the most tenured person on the entire team.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my last year, my last two years of the Titans,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I was I saw one hundred percent turnover. So I
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: was like the oldest guy in the room. They were
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: a guy that played more years in the league than
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: me in the room. But I was at the at
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: the Titans for the longest amount of time. And it
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: was a cool experience too because our first year we uh,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: my first game, we played the Kansas City Chiefs in
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: in Kansas City and it was loud and it was
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: they have this thing during the national anthem to say
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: and the home of the and the whole the whole stadium,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Y knows.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Chiefs it's and like it startled me, startled me big time.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: And uh we won too, like two games that year
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: and so my first and then the next year we
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: won three games and it was like just a we
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: were a horrible franchise and we won this big run
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: of going nine and seven a bunch, finally having like
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: a winning records. And then twenty nineteen to go to
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: the AFC Championship, played the Chiefs again in Kansas City
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: and lost. We were up by ten in the first quarter.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: But there was it was just like it was cool
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: to be a part of something that was so abysmal
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: at one point and then helped like grow it into
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: something that at one point was an actual contender for
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. Not not anymore. That tough yer for
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: the Boys, but yeah, tough year for the Boys. Yeah,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah, getting knocked out.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: We played it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: We played the Dolphins in twenty.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Eight longest game in NFL history, in NFL history, it
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: was like seven or eight hours long because of all
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of storms. So yeah, right, like yeah, yeah,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: that was on the team.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: That was a year we met and uh, I just
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: signed this deal and I came out in a boss
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: hog outfit, like all white suit, white hat. I had
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: a taxidermy beaver with me and I kind of did
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: this thing like Daddy's here, kind.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Of biggest contract for an olignement in NFL history at
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: the time. Oh I.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Love.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: So I made this like big, like you know, theatrical
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: thing about it, and and Mike Rable, the head coach,
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: pulls me the office. He goes, that was funny.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: It was good.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: But I'm just let you know, there's gonna be guys
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: that don't like that. And sure enough, dude, we throw
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: a pick.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: There's guys that don't like ostentatious.
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So we played the Dolphins in my that's it
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: right there, ans And we play the Dolphins. We throw
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: a pick and it's like towards our sideline. I'm I
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: take pride. I used to take pride. After this, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: never took pride in it again. But like hawking down
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: trying to get a couple of stats, get a tackle,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: like we talked about being patient, trying to get there,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: and dude's coming down and I'm starting to run like this,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I'm looking and all of a sudden, boom lights her
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: out and there's actually I mean it's kind of funny,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: but there's a hilarious video on YouTube of me like
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: dead bodied on the floor and.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Our teams like start it was a dirty hit.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: So like our team and the Dolphins like start getting
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: in a scrum and I pop up because I like
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: go from being unconscious to very conscious, and I'm like looking,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I see everybody fighting, and I go to get in it,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: and like people trainers are grabbing me, like Kevin Byer
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: or safety. I think there's a picture of you right
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: there too, grabbing me, like hey, no, no, you got knocked out,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: you got knocked in. I was like, well, you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: they just and I just start crying, like tears pouring
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: down my face and I'm like talking normal, and our
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: center Ben Jones like takes the towel and like puts
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: it over my head like he's embarrassed for me. Like listen, brother,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: you need to get to the locker room as soon
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: as possible. But yeah, that was a that was a
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: bit of a deal, that that little knockout situation you're
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: seeing it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I'm watching it right now.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I'm dude, there's a dude on the Miami sideline just
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: looking at the camera. Body bag.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Line coach and the Dolphins is like, give him a
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: fist bump. I was like Andre branch is his name.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: He was a backup you you know.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: So it was it was it a clip or it
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: was just.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: The next year they actually made that play illegal, that
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: that type of hit illegal.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: One of those ones where you know, Taylor's like pursuing
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: to go get the ball carrier and whoever is coming
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: to block him, they don't even see him. So you're
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: just like looking your chops like you'll about to tee
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: off on this, right?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: How do they define how do they define when they
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: made it illegal? How do they define it?
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: With defensive player? So like, if you're not aware of
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: the situation, if I'm pursuing you and someone's coming from
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: this side, I would be defenseless from your hit. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: would have to be aware of your hit coming in.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I supposed to keep all that street.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: So many it's been like a transition for a lot of.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Guys offensive tackles, big big target to tee off on too.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah if you yeah, oh, if they're not looking, yeah,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: you got to t off on them. You don't want
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to because you're thinking you're about to get swallowed up
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: by this boy.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: My good did you did you get some tackles over
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: your I think I had like four or five I
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: usually yeah, yeah, a good little stuff, check that step.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: I think I had like four or five throughout my career.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you were like, I can run
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: watch Oh yeah, say a little athletic out there.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Now. I you know, I don't want to continue to
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: hype the boy, but you gotta hype the boy when
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: the time is necessary. Did you do you have the
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: record for forty times at the combine.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Now top It was top ten when I did the
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: the comments. Some dude been like a four to six
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: one time.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Oh gotcha.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: I had that four five and nobody tried to like
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: pull you out to tight end or something like.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: No, I was ripping at three ten, Like when you're
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: of that side. Nice, that's when, Yeah, that's when you're
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: and you don't want to you don't want to.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Try to move about a smart position as the blind side.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah you want to.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, baby, I was sawing this guy the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: other day that was three ten.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel pretty good right now.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's And.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: If you're if you're looking from like a from a
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: career stand where like a tackle, a left tackle specifically,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: it's like a highly like a highly doubted, very high
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: paid position. It's a premium position because it's very low,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: low supply and extremely high demand.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna zip out and hit guys like this, yeah.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, when he goes second level. Yeah.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Well, we actually played each other in college too, you yeah, yeah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: we play each other feed What was it? What do
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: we doy twelve?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Did you know you played each other? Were you not?
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: At the time? Though, not until we may.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: You see a white guy, a white linebacker with the
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: last name Compton. You're gonna remember that guy.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Remember that guy there was It was the first time
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: we played against each other. I think it was twenty fifteen,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: maybe the league.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the first time we played your a year
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: two fourteen, Okay, so fourteen at the Redskins or at
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: the Commanders. Yeah, excuse me, we're at at Washington. But
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: we played each other in college once too, twice in
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: college twice in college you got one and I got
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: one one on one, and then you won one in.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: The in the NFL. Yeah. But the first time we
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: saw each other, like Taylor saying, like you see another
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: white guy on the field, you're kind of like, hey,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: we're kind of doing it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: We're beating the odds, right, we're beating the odds.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Like the first play happened, I remember like tapping him
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: on the helmet the first time we ever we were
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: we're doing it out here.
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Is, especially for linebacker off it's a line there's a
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: pluthor of white dudes out there, and I don't want
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: to turn this into a white That's not what this
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: show needs to be about. But there is very like
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: a lot of times, not a whole lot of white
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: guys on the defensive side of the ball. I think
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: there's a bunch of times you were on the field
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: only white.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Solo, white sold patrol. Yeah. It is.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Uh, it's an interesting world, man. But yeah, we we
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: met in twenty eighteen. Well, talk about your career.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: I've been going about.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: My Yeah, well, well he did you a great service.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I'll do you only highlights.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when he starts, I'll interject. Trust me, I'm
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: great at interrupting for that. I will definitely when I
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: when I found my moment, I'll be there.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: So out of Missouri in my career, I thought I was.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Gonna be Missouri.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, small town bonterare Missouri. Shout out bon Ter.
• 51:23
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be the next Walter
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Payton as I was growing up and realized than everybody,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah he has a running back. You know, you're playing
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: both ways and you want to be an offensive you
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: want to score touchdowns. But you learned very quickly that
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: that's not going to be your future. Uh. Got recruited,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: went to Nebraska, played in Nebraska for five years, one undrafted,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: was with Washington for five years, the Titans for two,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: and the Raiders for two. But the Titans and Raiders,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: I was like twenty eighteen. I was on the Titans
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: that year. Then I was a free agent, went out
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: to Oakland. Then I was a free agent back to
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: the Titans. Then I was a free agent and then
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: went with the Las Vegas Raiders late that year. And
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: then that's that's kind of been that's kind of been
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: my journey. More of a road dog, more of a
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: road dog.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Can you just explain the mindset of a free agent
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: versus a mindset of a what would you assigned player?
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: What what's the the mindset? Like? What do you mean? Like? Uh,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: like if the contract is coming up or not.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: It's there all one one year.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're on your rookie deal, you have like
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: a three or four year deal, depending on where you
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: got drafted. Like being undrafted, I was on a three
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: year deal. If you're drafted, you play four years, and
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: if you're in a if you're a first rounder, there's
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: a fifth year option. So there's a lot of those
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: business dynamics that go into it. Uh, But fortunately I
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: got to play for Washington for five years. The first
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: year I was practice squad the whole year, and then
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: the second year, which is where my initial contract basically
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: kicked in. Like they kind of had me hostage from
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: the business standpoint for a couple of years, and I
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: mean I was kind of like cutting my teeth in
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Washington in year two to where I was I established
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: myself going in year three and four for sure, or
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: the year three years three through five. So that mindset
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: was more of like, you know, you felt like you
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: were you know, you were part of the bigger picture.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: You were looking on when you were going into the offseason,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: You're like looking to build on the year you just had,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: or which guys are we going to bring in who
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: potentially you might draft. I know for myself the position
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I was in every draft. For me every year, you
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: didn't want a team to draft anybody in your spot
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: because you kind of just you know, the pecking order
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: that kind of happens in the politics of it all.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Like with Tennessee, I became a free agent signed to
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Tennessee on kind of a low one year for two deal,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: and it was kind of one of those situations where
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like a proven deal, So yeah, what
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: you want to play well in that year to get
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: like a two, three, four year deal, right, And that
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: year when I signed with Tennessee, the draft comes around.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: They draft a linebacker in the first round. So you remember,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: I remember sitting at the bar in Germantown in Nashville,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: and I was just thinking, damn, like you just kind
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: of know what time it is, like that guy's gonna play.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: So you know, you got to kind of be like fluid.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: It's like a very fluid mentality, because you know there
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: are times like when I got done with Tennessee that
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: first year where when we started the podcast, my mindset
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: was I've put together six years and I'm basically just
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: going to bet on my resume because I now I
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: don't I've tasted it too much to where I don't
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: want to be a guy on a ninety man roster
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: and try to make the fifty three Like in my
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: brain like I'm a fifty three guy, So I'll just
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: bet on guys getting hurt and then getting called up
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: or signed in the middle of the year right before
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: the season starts, and kind of took that approach for
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: the rest of my career unless I was able to
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: establish myself again to get like a multi year deal,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: which didn't happen, but I got to take that same approach.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of like how it changes. Yeah, Like
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: if you're you know, on Taylor spot and he can
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: he can speak to this, but when you're in, when
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: you're in those spots where you're part of the future
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: and everything else, you might go back to the table
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: and start renegotiating a year maybe two in advance to
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: kind of lock in your future. Like there was a
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: guy who never wanted to go anywhere else, which is
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: you're not telling that to the organization because you're trying
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: to you're trying to play that game of leverage, but
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: ultimately you try and get yourself locked into that same
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: situation because you hate switching locations.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: But is there the same level of comfort in your
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: position as a free agent as opposed to somebody who's
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: got this multi year contract. I can't imagine.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: No, No, not at all.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Like there's like I feel like only the paranoid survive
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: in the NFL. You have to be paranoid at all times.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, someone else. We had another player on recently, Derek
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Wolfe was on. Yeah, he had a couple of things
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: you talk about. One thing you talk about is just
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: that that sense of someone's coming for you, at someone
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: coming up that wants your job. You're always fighting, you
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. You never like just relaxed into it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because there's always some kid coming out
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: of college and watch your job.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: There's different there's different level stead obviously, like in Will's position,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: being an undrafted cat and working to get on the
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: roster this first couple of years and fighting through the
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: fringe essentially to become an established part of a franchise
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: is one thing. When you're drafted like I was drafted
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: in the first round, you have to mess up really
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: bad till I get essentially not have those three four years,
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: so you some guys will kind of take a back seat.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I'm good, I made some money all that. But if
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: you don't constantly think to yourself, hey, someone's going to
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: try to take something from you. There's some kid that's
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: a freshman in college right now that's going to get
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: drafted and try to take your job. Like there always
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: has to be some sort of like they're coming, they're
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: coming feeling like there's like some sort of paranoid And
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: it really is.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: In your situation too, Like you know, when you care
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: about what you're doing and you want to play at
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: a really high level or perform any job at a
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: high level, like and you're a first rounder, like you
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: want to be able to hold the standard. I want
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: to be the guy that they think I am throughout
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: your career. So then when you do have LALs like
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I know, that just goes on in your mind, like, man,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: I go, I gotta play better. They thought they expected
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: me to be a starter this year. I don't feel
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: like I'm playing at starter level. Like all these different
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: parandormies are constantly here.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: There's a big world for self doubt, a massive world
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: for self doubt and it's a very ruthless and cutthroat
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: business because you when you go to college, if you
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: if you're lucky enough to get offered to a school,
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: you're there for three to five years. If you can
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: leave early, you do, and sometimes your red shirt and
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: you do the whole thing. Will and I both red
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: shirt and played the four years after that. But when
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: you go to the NFL, it's like, if you're a
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: cat that's let's say fourth round to undrafted you are.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: You don't have two, three four years to develop. It's
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: like even if you signed that three four year game, right,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: So there's guys. I remember the first time cuts would happen,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: and back in twenty fourteen, the way cuts were, there's
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: four preseason games and then the third preseason game they
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: would go from a ninety man roster to a seventy
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: five man roster. And then after the fourth preseason game,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: you go seventy five to your fifty three, which is
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: your your team. And then you have about ten guys
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: on practice squad who aren't getting paid salary like the
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: salary you would get if you're in the NFL. But
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: you're you're there, you're practicing. You don't have to be
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: at the games that type of thing, and you'd be
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: around guys that are like kind of excited about the season,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: how do you think we're gonna do? And then two
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: weeks later they're, you know, weeping bringing their playbook because
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: they know they're getting cut right then and there, and
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: you just it just you have to change your mindset
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: in such a hurry to know that, Okay, there's no
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: time to develop, like any weak point in your game
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: that will expose you, you better work on that craft immediately,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: otherwise you could be set out.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: The door in any moment. M and and with obviously
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: all sports, but with football too, like it is it's
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: such a performance based business. Like you're you're going to practice,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: you're watching every rep of practice with in front of
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: the team meeting and position meetings. Then you got to
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: you know, refocus for the next day the highs and lows,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: like you're just constantly being evaluated every day. So there's
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: never a there's never a level of like comfort even
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: if you are good, because you still want to play
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: at a very high level, like every guy who's in
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: a starting lineup ultimately like wants to be a super
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Bowl champion. Or if they want to attain being a
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: pro bowler, Like they all want to be the best.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: If you're a guy who's a backup, you're kind of
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: just waiting for opportunity to be a starter. If you're
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: kind of like third or four stringer, kind of on
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: that fringe, you're just you're trying to fight so you
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: can be part of that crew who gets to look
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: at each opponent you know, as like something to look
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: forward to, versus like your team is all of your opponents,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: because you've got to like make the team. So there's
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: always like a different level. But it's like performance based
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: every day.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Like, so with the path you took, you ever do
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: you ever get money, like sorry, a chance to make
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: real money or is it is it real like you're
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: sort of living hand in mouth all the time.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Uh No, Yeah, I had opportunities. It was like so
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: practice squad, you know, if you get if you're playing
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: on practice squad. Like my practice squad salary my very
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: first year was one hundred and twelve thousand was the saldy. Okay, Yeah,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: so you're making solid money, but compared to being active,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: you're making my rookie salary. Say, I was playing that
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: very first year, it's like four hundred and fifty, and
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: then it goes up more after that. Your chance to
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: make the big money is in your second contract, your
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: third contract. I know for me, my biggest one I
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: had was that one year for two with Tennessee and
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: when I was like a restrict free agent. But the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: year to year after that, I was like a one
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: year minimum guy. But the longer you're in the league,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: the more that floor goes up. But if you're like,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: you know, Taylor can speak to this, like when you're
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: you're trying to get that second contract, when they tell
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: guys like you got a lot of you know, X
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: y Z, Like Taylor's a cat to where hey, in
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: year four, when did when'd you sign your deal? You're
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: four year four, going going into five? Yeah, going into five.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Like Taylor he put you know, he took advantage of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: all those first four years to put himself in a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: position to make that lucrative deal. And that's where, guys,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: where the guarantees happen, Like, you know, a five year
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: deal for X amount of millions of dollars and then
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: after that again in the NFL, you just basically take
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: your salary or your contract and cut it in half.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Like if you're a five year guy. The majority of
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Vets who signed like a five six year deal like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: think two or three, because once you're guaranteed money's up,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: they're gonna you're back to having to earn it at
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: all times.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: At all times. It's yeah, it's a bit of a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: deal man, it really is.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Mm hm.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: So tell how you tell how you then met?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, so I kept the truck a little bit.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: It's really cute because you guys friends, thought you'd be
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: best friends.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so Will coming from the recue, coming from the Redskins.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I remember I was sitting in the cold tub and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: just kind of you know, surfing the bird Twitter at
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: that at that point, and uh, I see this tweet
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: or it's an article. It's like Will Compton signs with
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans, he will be best friends with Taylor
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: lay Blake.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Lawrence had the tweet, and then that tweet was using.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: It was like getting your marriage arranged. I was like
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: kind of like, hell, yeah, dude, was my best friend gone?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: And so Willy shows up and uh they were clearly
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: right immediately, like we established our friendship very quickly.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: What was it that they were anticipating you're going to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: bond over.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: I just think we both like when you're in the media.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: When you do media, some guys handle themselves saying as
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: little as possible. Some guys just stick with the game plan.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: I was much more theatrical. Will is a wordsmith with
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: his thumbs, the way he was putting out.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that review of the of the Gut beer exactly here.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: He reviewed that dish, and I thought, I thought he
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: had studied up and made up a thing ahead of time, like.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: He'd been sitting there the whole time being like this
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: is what I'm gonna say.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say premeditated. Bill confident is very premeditated the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: way he handles himself. But for whatever reason, people are like,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: these guys are gonna be They're gonna be boys, and uh,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: I don't. The first time he met was probably in
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: the lunch hale.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably probably breakfast club because camping Aro like me
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: being a frasing coming in, you're kind of like leaning
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: to the other free agents. WY just get signed because
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: you're like the new guys, right, So we would sit
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: at breakfast and, you know, chop it up and have
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: fun and laugh and stuff and I remember one time, Yeah,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Taylor came over and like I said, I like, hey, boys,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: what were we talking about? I'm trying to laugh, like,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: and then it kind of like just grew from there.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: I mean I stayed at this the Candlewood Sweets. It
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: was like a hotel right down from the facility payah, Yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: and that's where they was. That's where they put the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: free agents, and you basically just prolong your stay until
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: you felt like you had an idea of if you
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: were going to be, you know, with the team for
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: a year, because you don't want to sign into a
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: year lease and thinking I might get cut, so.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: You got to live with other dudes who are trying
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: to make it too.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: No, well, the many you're outside of your rookie deal,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: you don't get paired up with roommates anymore. But when
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: you're a rookie in those first couple of years, like you,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: they would put you with guys in the hotel, like
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: when the team's go into the hotel.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Then it's just all competitions all the time.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all the time.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: It's gotta be some real hits and misses on the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: roommates that you Yeah, I had.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Not to get too often. Age my very first roommate,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: he had a he did a terrible job at missing
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: the rim at night going to the bathroom, and he
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: never cleaned it up, and it blew my mind, blew
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: my mind. He would shave and get stuff all over
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: the sink, and I'm just thinking, bro, we're sharing this.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: You sound a little squeamish to me.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just go in and like, you know, you're
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: going in the middle of the night, you step in
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: some piss and you're just thinking, what are we doing? Brother, Like,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: turn the light on, figure it out. He wasn't a kicker,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: was no, he was an offensive lineman. I mean there's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: some dirty animal dirty.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, traditionally gross individuals.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: But yeah, and then we started bonding over you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: as we circle to the podcasting world, we bonded over
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of podcasting Rogan uh Ben Greenfield, he's big
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: into like a lot of performance stuff, bio hacking, and
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: so with our you know what we were doing, we
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: we called each other account of bill of Buddies to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: where we'd be doing the song of the Cold Tub,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: like we'd be doing all this stuff with each other.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: And then Taylor would always you know, he's somebody who
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: when he he loves, he loves hard. So he would
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: always want me to come over to his house, like
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: every day. He would be like He'd just open it
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: up for me every day. So he was kind of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: like the he was kind of like the one like hey, yeah,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: he would call me, be on speakerphone with him and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: his wife, who yet to me, Like, I was just
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: telling Tailor about this tweet you had, like remember Malcolm Butler,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: like he talked about I thought you was a kicker
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: because you seem like you got a construction worker body,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, and then it was just just
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: ascended from there. Man. We were boys, can.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: You guys do your handshake this whole.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Thing right there.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: That's a small one and stuff like that.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: And that was what April may. And then he's inviting
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: me to his wedding, which was in June, and I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: felt very like, I'm not like the most committal. I'm like,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know, and they're like, no, you're going.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: You have to go. You have to go, like we
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: already did. We already got the spot for you.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: You have to go rooms taking care of you have
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: to be to buy your flight.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: We ordered, we ordered your chicken breast exactly.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: Catering is this much per play?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah? And then from there, man, we just we worked
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: out together in the summer at UH at the Vanderbilt University. UH.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: That's where we trained together in the off season, and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: then we just we kicked it off once the season
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: hit and we were just that was that's that's the homie.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: That's awesome story. Well told.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a question.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: So you guys have both like switched teams and moved.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: What's that like on like your wife's and girlfriends?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Like, is that tough?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know the time went op, especially if you
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: have kids too.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: I'm sure that's yeah.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: I mean my wife that I have now, we weren't
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: we were. We were just together when I went from
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Washington to Tennessee. Then I talked to her into moving
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: to Tennessee and then as we I forget if we
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: were engaged when I went to Oakland. No, I don't
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: think it was, because that was the year I engaged.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: I proposed to her. But yeah, when you're leaving, So
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: the Oakland situation happened, and that was like the last
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: that was middle of the year. I was with the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Saints for like a couple of coffee, like ten days
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: in the for the fourth preseason game, they called me
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: up and I was like, oh man, I'm about to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: sign with the team right before the season starts. I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: didn't have to do any training camp. I didn't have
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: to bang, so I didn't have to I didn't have
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: to be out in the heat. I didn't have to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: do all that stuff on my man about to be
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: on the squad, like just from you know, from the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: start of the season. I get hurt in the fourth
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: preseason game, get an injury, get cut, injury settlement, and
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: then I'm kind of like on the couch until middle
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: of the year, and then that's when Oakland called. There
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: was a big part of me that didn't want to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: go at the time, and I think it's just because
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: I just didn't want to travel and I was just
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: kind of being a bitch. But my wife, you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: she you know, she basically like, hey, you got to go.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: You know, you have to go. It does suck, but ultimately,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: you know, it's for a short period like two months
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: tops at that time, and so then you know, when
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: the season was over, she'd come out and visit. Then
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: I come back home and I never really had to
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: do it, like while we were married, while we were
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: with a kid. I almost did last year when I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: signed with the Atlanta Falcons, which that would have been
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: weird beginning. I would only been gone for like a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: month or two, So I never had to experience it
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: at the level that other guys have. Like we've had
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: teammates to where they have a house or a place
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: in the city, like say Nashville, and then their their
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: family stays back because they might have kids who are
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: already going to school and stuff, so they don't want
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: to take them out of school like some of the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: older heads, and so they would just travel back and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: forth whenever they could, or just host them out for
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: a game.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when Will went to the Raiders that one time
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: for those couple of months we the Titans actually played
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: the Raiders in Oakland, it was like the second to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: last game in Oakland.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: In the Coliseum, and there was this kid there.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: He's like, now, one of the best pass rushers in
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: all of the NFL's name is Max Crosby.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: He went to Eastern Michigan. He's an absolute stud.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: And he apparently like Will walked in and he's like, yoh,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: the boy, which is like kind of like our call
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: thing for busting with the boys is like he was like,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: watched the show.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: He was like about it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: Well, we go to play the play the Raiders and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: Will tells Max He's like, every sack you get on Taylor,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: I'll give you five hundred dollars. Will was plotting my
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: demise before the game. The NFL is hard enough, then
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: you're putting like the financial incentive under it. Thank God
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: it didn't happen.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: It didn't have that's amazing.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: I was stressed out about that.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: What because we we did throw out some some stats
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: there for Taylor. The sacks are the thing when you're linebacker,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: the thing.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever get any buddy, oh brother, get anybody.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: Something? If you want to pull it up, I'm sure
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: you'll find it. There's a there's a sack out there
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: that's flowing around that people like to reflect on once
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: a year. And when I say people, I mean myself.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I had one. I had one sack to
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: my name, one sack. Sam Bradford dabbed on him as well.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: It was it was. It was one of the highs
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: of my career for sure. And then you know, I
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: don't want to get to three interceptions. How many tackles. Uh,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: it's in the three hundreds. Oh wow the tackles.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: Were you playing outside?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I was?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: I was inside off Okay, So I was never like
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: a yeah, yeah, you see the short arms, like I'm
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: no pass pass rush expert. Uh. Taylor blocked me a
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: couple of times in practice, which really pissed me off
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: because they were walkthroughs.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: But it never never never give out here.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, never gifted in the pass rush Candy.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because Will would be he's an off the ball
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: linebacker inside the box, and he's got the green dogs
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: from the neck.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: We're playing from the He's instinctive.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Here we go, compliments Will, Is it extremely instinctive able
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: to see formations of offenses and know essentially where the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: ball is going to go, if it's going to be
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: a run or a pass. Like the man is a
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: student of the game. But when he was with the Titans,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: there were a few situations where they would it would
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: be a call that would send them into a barefront,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: and a barefront is like end tackle knows tackle end
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: and so it's like five down linemen, but you're taking
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: a Mike linebacker and you're putting at the end spot
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: and they put Will on me and it was a
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: run play and it's my boy. So I kind of
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: wanted to give him a little bit of the give
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: a little bit of business, let him know what d
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: he was working with a little bit.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: It was a jog through. It was a job.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: So I took him to the sideline.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: He's like, what are we doing.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: That?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I got to finish through.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: I meant it.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: There's a funny were all the time. We were in
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: Arizona one time where we're like we're, you know, banged
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: up a little bit and we're we laid through in
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: the YouTube and throwing like the twenty twelve Michigan versus
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: Nebraska game. It was in in Nebraska, and we were
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: watching a whole bunch of like we were just watching
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: the game like reminiscent on all this is what this
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: call is Like just a couple of guys, a couple
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: of has beens, really enjoying looking at their old craft.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: And there was one player like Michigan was getting dusted
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: and I got a hold of Wheel on one play.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: It took him to the sideline. Will threw a punch
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: at me in the game. Now it was there was
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: a close.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: And the Taylor Taylor looked at I was crying like
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: a little bitch.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: We awesome.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, our quarterback got hurt, but so we uh we
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: duck on it today and shot yesterday. Talk about your
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: pre in the past. What kind of fire arms experience
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: do you guys have.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I go on an annual hunting trip with
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: the boys. We have a little Texas group that goes
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: down in South Texas once a year, but I wouldn't
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: consider it a whole lot hunting white tail and nil
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: guy and then some hogs. We got in the hog
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: hut a couple of times. But that's a lot of fun.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: But growing up I didn't do a whole lot like
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: my dad. Unfortunately massacred a white tail in front of
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: me when I was a young pup and I never
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: went back in the woods after that.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: It turned you off, Yeah, it turned me off.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: And because like deer season was always like in football season,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: and I just never had that itch to like go hunt,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: and you know he didn't have had that.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: There was like it was like a reload follow up
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: shot situation.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, probably five six shots. It was my dad
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: was not happy about it, Like I mean, it wasn't
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: you know. He hated it. He hated it. He hated
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: it for me, He hated it for everybody but my dad,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: my old man. We didn't have like a tree center on,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: so we just be sitting against a tree and I'm
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: like falling asleep at the time. So I'm thinking, like, man,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: I don't really care to hunt a whole lot right now.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Uh So I just never really got into hunting. But
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: like I've been, you know, clay shooting a few times,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: so not a whole lot, but I guess enough to
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: work around the barrel a little bit.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it was I've been clay shooting probably
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: a handful of times. My dad used to take me
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: a little bit when I was like eleven or twelve,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: but really never been hunting. I've been in two different
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: hunting situations. One I was down in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: with one of my buddies and his grandpa had like
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: a tree stand in the backyard and we kind of
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: just sat there for two three hours, and I just thought,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: what are we doing out here?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Man? Is that what you said?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: He saw?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: So I saw.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: I literally I remember sitting there, I saw a butter
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: butterfly and a bunny rabbit. I literally just followed the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: butter butterfly for a while, got buller went down patience. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: maybe I just take out this bunny with this thirty
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: odd six real quick.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: But I didn't.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't, you didn't know.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: And then uh that was that was it. And then
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, I had a buddy in Nashville,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Tennessee for Ford Tomlin. He took me his family's got
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: a farm and we went turkey hunting. It was like
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: the last week of turkey season. Did not see one turkey?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: Hear any Yeah, I heard a couple that sounds like,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: what's that?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: What that sounds like?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, next, what you got for us?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Anybody that tells a turkey story, you can tell if
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: he's a turkey hunter. When he gets to the gobble part,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: he doesn't do a guy.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: He goes, you got a good turkey, You got a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: good turkey. So it is so I didn't see nothing,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: and so.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but so I've shot a gun a couple of times,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: but literally today was the first like organized hunt that
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: was successful for me. And it was I told you
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: while we were sitting in the blank. I will go back,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: I will I will come back here, I will go
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: anywhere and do it again.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: That was awesome.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: You guys were a really quick study shooting. I know
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: you've been done some shooting before, so whatever. You didn't
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: come in being like I know all about this, get
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: out of my way. Yeah, but Cal and I were
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: talking about it, and we were talking about how the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: hunting with you seeing you shoot, well, that was so fun.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: It was like you spent your whole lifetime getting coached
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: and absorbing information.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: And then of trying to apply that information right.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Hand eye coordination, situational awareness. Yeah, I don't know, like
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: like you want to be successful, competitiveness drive. Yeah, it
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: makes you realize that, I'll say to you, spend your
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: whole life trying to get good at something, and then
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: you see someone get like be proficient at some aspect
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: of it really quickly and you sort of wishing that
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: they can't figure it out. Well, it just goes to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: show how constructive all these years, these guys can't hit
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: a duck save their lives, And you're like, oh, ship,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: they hit ducks just like all my friends do. Duck
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: hunts is they're not Steve.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Steve, Now you missed a few clays yesterday.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: I would say that the clay shooting part was more
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: nerve wracking than the first duck coming out, Yes, because
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: it was all of us really meeting for the first
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: time and you're like, Jimmy, we're gonna try to get
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: a couple and we'll be in a brave boy like
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: I'll go first, and he misses it, I'm like, miss everything.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: I think part about duck hunting too, is like you're
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: so in the moment and like you just kind of
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: black out and your instincts take over. Yes, Like that's
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: what happens to me a lot, And it's just like
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: the minute you start to think about it is when
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: you start to miss.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like I shoot so much better when it's
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: just like a fashion Some point out that a duck
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: is about six times bigger in the clay pitch.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I shoot so much better when I'm not
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: standing there being like okay, I'm gonna say ready, and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: then when I say ready, this is what I'm gonna
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: do and I'm not gonna do that. It's just better
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: when you just do it.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like something just comes in and you're like,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: oh boom.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: We used to put people through something just excruciating and
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: still do as we did yesterday, which is like in filming,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: filming mediater episodes, you know, oftimes you'll have someone come
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: in and they flew in with their rifle. So then
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it's like when we gotta go test your rifle. We
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: got to check your rifle, make sure it didn't get this,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: didn't get knocked off of zero. So then here's this person,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: you know, they just got off a plane. There's like
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: eight people staring at him. You put the target out there.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: And you always have someplace to be. That's the most
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: fun part. It's always on a schedule where it's like, you.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Know, the we gotta get well, ain't gonna watch. It's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be the only person is gonna be more awkward
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: for if you shoot poorly, is it's gonna feel awkward
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: for me. So I'm gonna resent you for that reason.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: It's gonna look very awkward for you.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: And we started shooting yesterday.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Just get real quiet.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: Everyone's standing there and it's like you guys are kind
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: of pretend you didn't see it.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: You guys are like, yeah, these are like the uh,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: the brand in the outdoor game. And you know, I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: won't speak for you, but I know coming out here,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily have my arms all the way around that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: And then the buzz of us coming out here for
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: my buddies are people that knew we were coming. It
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: almost put a little bit more. It put more pressure
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: on us, or more pressure on me. Like when we
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: put out a photo and like everyone's like, oh my god,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. You're just thinking these guys, yeah, I
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: knew they were good. I didn't know. It was like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: the following was like this. So everything we're out there doing,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, like, man, I hope I'm good for
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: the media guy.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Like I hope I can own my own. Like, hope
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I don't shoot one of these guys.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: You're talking about guys getting dude's being getting shot and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: getting peppered, And I'm thinking, oh my god, yea wild, we're.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Gonna sit ya. We could have sent y' out for
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: pepper and all right, it's out there, you know, just shoot.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: So what what how did you feel about the duck hunting?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Give me some of your impressions from duck hunting uh,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: the actual act of duck hunting, right.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Not just I loved it. I thought it was awesome,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: Like again that annual home we do it kind of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: like when you're out there before the sun, the sun
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: comes up, you see the critters coming out, you kind
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: of just see like the nature and everything else. You
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: kind of like understand, uh, why everybody is so into
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where I still haven't
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: went from zero to one by buying myself a rifle
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: or anything like that yet, but it's one of those
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: things you leave and you're like, man, I gotta like die,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: I gotta get it into the sport because I have
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: buddies that travel all over the country, like you know,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: all the spots, spots in Arizona, Colorado, Utah, everywhere, and
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: it just seems like a lot of fun. So coming
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: out here like getting to experience duck hunting like I've
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: always heard that duck hunting is like all time and
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: so getting to do it at the level we got
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: to do it on the grounds, we got to do
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: it on it was just like it happening in real
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: time and we were knocking them down. It was just
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: it was so much fun. And again like getting to
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: do with you guys, like being like, Okay, you know
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: you want to you want to impress the squad, you
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: want to impress the boys.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: You impressed me.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: When one wed go down, and we'd all be Yeah,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: it was unique because like when we're talking about the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: hunt and you're saying it's spoiled guy duck hunting because
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: of the blind and how it's set up and the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: way you guys are explaining it. In my mind, I'm
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: essentially painting the picture of what it's all going to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: be like, and then you show up and it's completely different.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: So really, when I first get there, I'm like really
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: just trying to just be aware of all the stuff
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: going on. You hand me the the decoys and I
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: go set those up over there, and I'm thinking, oh
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: my god, I don't this is not like do I
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: just pull a string here?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Do I put these on?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: I pulled the maxsime, Hey, so how do I thought
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: these little.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Decoy?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: And I do I have to have a confession. I'm
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: the one who singled out and pulled out the duck
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, do I just throw this
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: on the water, Like yeah, get off the thing, and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, I just step back.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: So it comes over to me and hands me a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: duck with out a weight on it, and I'm.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: Like, sometimes this is sometimes it's like falls off. And
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: I look at it and the clips like fully unclipped
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: from the weight taking through the loop out and like
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: the string with the weight on it. Karen Beener and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: he asked me, He goes, do I just set this
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: out there?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: And I looked at it and I'm like, shoot, there's
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: no weight on it.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: He goes back and I didn't say a word. I
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: got real quiet on the water. We're gonna go from
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: here to here, and I'm like all right, and I found.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: The uh string with the weight on it, and I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: was like, okay.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I I just didn't want to say yeah.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: The wild thing is it's like you're so focused on
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: your dog calve the whole time. You're so fire off
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: the steve. You're just even when we had to do
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: the beaver trapping after that was like impromptu. You're just
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: a man on a mission, so all right, go do this.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: And then you're trudging through the water and all that,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: and I have to like assume how to throw it
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: out pull Max aside throwing and everything out there.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: He said, the railroad thing like something weapons like, no, no,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: that's not it.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: We had to go put a trap out for Mark
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: and I literally it was like kids with their dad
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: like me, Will and JP. He's like, all right, we
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: pulled this through the cemetery and you're just you're literally
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: run jumps over in front of us.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: Like you're just working.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: He goes and jumps of fence and looks back at
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: the boys like what the flors was the jump this fence?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: I hop at my kname like, oh my god. He's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: like down the helmet, Hey, do we need to come
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: with you? He stayed there for a second.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: I'll be right back.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: So like then like old fat guy body over the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: beans and we're kind of just watching you just move
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: and he's like looking around picking stuff up.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: That's not it.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 9: We did the truck and he's like yeah, oh dude,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 9: he's like looking at it, grabbed his.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: Taste like this is a man out here. And we
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: get to We end up getting back in the truck
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: and going down the hill and uh, Steve's like looking around.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: He's like, God, where is it. I'm an idiot?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: And he starts calling people, I need you to bring X,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: Y and Z the thing we ended up using with
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: the beaber, Yeah, the castor lure. And he goes, Taylor,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: you do in the back right corner there's a there's
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: a steel blah blah blah blah railroad railroad tie plate.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I got you, brother, And I started.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Looking to him like what the and I just giggling.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: I pull out like there was like a shovel and
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: he's like, no, it's flat, and I'm like, we'll get
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: over here.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: And that's what makes it so funny.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Just keep going when you were kids that you crush
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: pennies on the railroad tracks and notice how they hold
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: them all together.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: No railroad tracks and cave tree.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Then he's down, he's down in the water and he's like, hey,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: when you guys got a pocket knife? And I was like, oh,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: I left it at home.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: In the hotel.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: So I was like one day and he's like, uh,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: you grab something out of there and cut off like
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: cut off the willows or cut off the Wilson. You're
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: gonna have tell me.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: What willow will sticking these flyers.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: He goes to reach over and cut out what he
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: was saying, because there's just like.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: There's just like a protective fence around these trees that
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: Mark is trying.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: To Marks trying to re establish the gentleman that his
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: place is trying to get willows re established, willows along
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: as riparian areas, which, as I was explaining to you guys,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: just decades and decades of cattle grazing and other stuff
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: eliminated all the willows. So he's trying to get the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: willows going and he fences them in. But every time
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: he puts them in there and puts the fence around him,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: somehow or no, the beavers still get him. He's trying
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: to hold the beavers back long enough to get his
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: willows re established.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: And you're on these branches and I end up He's
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: like reach over and cut off a couple branches. I'm
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: just looking at this fence. I'm like, I can't get
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: over this fence. So I'm thinking maybe he just wants
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: me to press up against the fence and cut I'm
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: cutting some like dead flowers, like yeah, get poked in
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: my damn. And he's like, hey, that's that's that's go
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: over the tree in front of the truck and start
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: like clipping those and I go over with JP. I'm like, man,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what he's talking about.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: I just start cutting these branches. He's like, he's like,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: he's alive or dead? And I'm just thinking, yeah, I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: don't know. He's like, is they're green in them? He
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: got He's like, oh no, these are dead. He's like,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: we got to go get some ones that have some
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: green and them. Go over to that red tree, go
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: over to those red branches and get me some branches
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: because he's trying to set this trap. But we were
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: all in. We had the full meat eatior experience.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: But going back to the duck hunt, which is where
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: this question originated, it was very cool to see like
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: one of the the way your dog was operating. I thought,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: I thought that I get a real kick out of that.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: I don't have a temperament for dogs, but the ones
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: that are real good I love.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the first one coming in, you start
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: to feel start to feel like nervous and everything, and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: you know steve'son there all right, this one's coming in.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: When I say go you guys do it, And I
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: think takes a hard right turn and goes get it,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: and we both get up and pump hit it, and
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: he's like, all right, well that duck is destroyed and
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: we're gonna have to We're gonna have to go back
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: and forth.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: That was like a to me.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's a good little feeling, you know.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: And then you have to call names. And then when
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: you unloaded your gun, there was a moment from me.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh man, we're really shooting well out here, right.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: That's great. Yeah, you were kind of leveling up throughout
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: the day, but I think.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: The shot of the day was that duck coming overhead
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: and will with the swing swing because yesterday you were
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: talking about the clay. If you can get one of
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: those like that and we'll pop that thing up, no problem,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: and took it.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: You know, you're shooting Clayer leaving from your feet, Yeah,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: flying out And I said, be more realistic. If the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: shooter went out there and then try to hit him
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: coming out, let it fly over you and hit it
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: behind him.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: The one mess up, the biggest mess up today was
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: when that teal hit the water, Like, get out there,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: go get him, and so I like pop out trying
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: to impress my dad.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Out here.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: Let's go, I'm gonna show him.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: Get the gun.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: I get him in my sights. He starts taking off.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is gonna be awesome safety.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: So I just walk back. Or when that teal was
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: going by and then I was like, Taylor, get it,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: get it, get it, And it seems like hey, no, no, no,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: I'm a little excited at.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: The fire cal. We were talking about this in the
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: blind and I gave an answer, but it wasn't real specific.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Uh how many hours you're into your dog? Oh, I
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: said thousands?
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, I mean you're one, it's like two hours
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: a day for like training training, and then twenty four
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: hours a day for obedience training. You know you're I
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: mean it's like like I said, like, uh, when we
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: were plucking birds and having her place on my jacket,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: like you are always always training, and so like when
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: that when you get that brand new little puppy, you
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: can almost essentially at like seven weeks, imprint things that
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: are going to be very beneficial to you for the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: rest of that dog's life or things that you will
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: absolutely for the rest of your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: So it's yeah, it's not.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: I mean yeah, I mean great training, place, training, healing.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: I mean at all those good citizens.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: At the end of the day, you're like you're training,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: but you're also like keeping that dog safe too, because
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: like say, if we were like a bunch of trucks
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: driving around in the field or whatever, you tell your
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: dog place and that dog doesn't move, of like your
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: dog's gonna be safe.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there's like a couple of run around
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: trying to bite truck tires.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: It's good ran over for sure.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: Think of how many like public hunting spots that are
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: like unfortunately, like right next to the highway, right and
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: dog goes and tries to chase a rooster, a crippled
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: duck or whatever, and yeah, it's just yeah, there's so
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: many ways for things to go bad, and they're the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: hunting bond is is amazing because they put all of
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: their trust in you, and when you watch them get hurt,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: sometimes they come back to you and they're like you said, go,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: I went, what happened? You know, And it's like that
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: all you know all the time. So yeah, but lots
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: of lots of time in the dog.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: When we got our dog, I got it to where
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I could say get over here and it would do that,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: and then where I could say get out of here,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: it would do that. And I'm like, this dog is trained.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: That's great and go.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Largely largely of intonation here She's.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: Now That relationship is awesome. And I said to snort
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: is famous. Like my buddy texted like, hey, how cow's
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: dog do ask me about?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Did you tell me about the story on the dog?
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: I did see the was missing a little bit of fur, Yeah, exactly,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: the bald eer.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a super long story, but yeah, she
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: got bit by a snake and almost died. But the
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: result is I got a dog with balder, which is yeah.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: I've been talking lately way three legged dogs. There's so
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: many three legged dogs around these days and how much
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: attention they get and got me thinking like if you
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: had a one eared dog, it would get a lot
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: of attention.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: You know, people would want to come up and pet
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: the way. It's kind of like a patch missing, you know.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: So I think that most people are like, something's wrong
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: with that dog, like dog's got cancer, dogs got something,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: so nobody says anything about it, which is pretty funny.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: It takes a while to like warm up and be like, so,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: what's the deal with that?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Ear, I'm so sorry about your laws?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, but yeah, we got to dole out compliments
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: to you guys. So, like Steven said, situational awareness, I
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: mean just so just relaxing to be around people who
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: are in that first time position but can decipher for themselves, like, oh,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: this is what these guys with more knowledge in this
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: situation are picking up on. So you guys are looking
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: where we're looking. You know, we didn't spend a whole
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: lot of time talking about the hands of the clock
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: right when we're like birds at twelve o'clock, birds at
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: two o'clock.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the movement of your hands.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. I was like, hey, there's one over there.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look your eyes.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: Damn giant.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: Why don't you wave about it?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 9: Hey?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's crazy, as we were hiding from
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: those ducks the whole time. As soon as we got
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: out of the blind, like fifty of them, we're just
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: kind of ripping around us. We should have just hung
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: out on top.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes that happens, like all that, like keep quiet.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: But yeah, the the the camaraderie aspect, he has obviously
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: up down right, so you know that things are just
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: better better when people are happy. And so you guys
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: joke around, but then the serious things you immediately click
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: in and turn it on and we're like, yeah, gun safety,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: we're serious about that. Oh, somebody's trying to uh improve
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: what we're doing a little bit. Oh okay, be focused,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: be serious and then, like we already covered, you immediately
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: apply it or try to apply it right. Which there's
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of uh teaching of fishing hunting stuff too,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: where it's like, yeah, I have certain people that have
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: been around a lot, you know, it's like why I
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: need to just quit talking because this person does not
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: apply it, like they need to fall in their face
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: over and over again and then then which is how
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: I really learned a lot of things too. But you
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: guys are not not those folks.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. You Like I say
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: to my boy, he's like, I'm gonna go get that duck,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna get that duck. Not gonna go
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: get that duck. You I can get that duck now,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go Okay, go get the duck. In
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: a while later, like didn't get the dock.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't get the duck.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: Did you see all the ducks? I scared away by
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: walking around and all the things. You're like, yep, I did, okay,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: now yeah, and then uh appreciators the number Like, man,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: it is such a bummer to have any sort of
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: a day, any sort of an experience, and at the
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: end of the day, you're like, I just don't know
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: if these people took home what they were supposed to
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: take home, right, but you.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Cat wasted all his nice emotion on him.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, exactly. I got to bottle all that ship
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: back up.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Is he left it land in the blind?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: But yeah, being around people who appreciate, like oh, the place,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: the instruction, the just you know, the time and effort stuff,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: the basic stuff. And you guys are appreciators. So thank
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: you very very much for that, because that's that's a
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  Speaker 5: big deal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been incredible And I felt the last thing.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure you felt this way too, Like
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: you're you don't want to be like standing around too much,
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  Speaker 3: Like the last thing you want is to be like
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: a liability or to leaving people like, oh they kind
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: of they kind of sucked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you noticed our host this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not talk about who he said it about, but
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: our host this morning said, of a couple of individuals,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: neither of them is someone you'd want to be in
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  Speaker 1: a duck blind with. But you see what he's getting that. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: don't want me to duk line. That's like a thing
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: you guys can start saying that now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know you're like getting your hands around
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: the meat eater thing. Right. Well, Krin does a phenomenal job.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: And despite despite the phenomenal job that Krin does, I
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  Speaker 5: don't read all of her emails, even when they're sent
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: directly to me.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, uh, football, guys, I didn't know
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: if you played football. I don't know if you just
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: talk about football.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Was like, Ship, I played football, and uh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 5: I was like the runt of the litter and I
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: played offensive tackle. So I was like, I was like,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: you know, Ship, that's great. So it's a big soft
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: spot for the old line, especially tackles. And then uh,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: my family, my dad went to law school in d C.
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  Speaker 5: So I was there during like the eighty six U
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  Speaker 5: super yeah right, and so and we were like lifelong
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: Redskins fans.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: And so Doug Williams was the QB and I can
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: sing you the.
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  Speaker 5: Fight song to this day. Well I'm not gonna do
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  Speaker 5: it right, No, hell to the Redskin heal victory.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I got it.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody knows that one. You didn't do that big surprise,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: But I mean that's great.
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  Speaker 1: What I didn't do that was poor hostings. I didn't
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't do I didn't offer up a good synopsis
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: of busting with the boys. Do you mind up offering
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: up a you know, if someone says, you know, what's
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: your show about?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess in a nutshell, it's like
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: we have a platform where everything we do we want
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: to bring the locker room to life. So if you
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: guys were to come on the bus, which would be
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: awesome one day, it's just how do you, you know,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: have the camaraderie, have the vibes of like getting to
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: know you your story, like bringing that locker room the
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: life that we kind of grew up in, because the
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: locker room is such a melting pot where jokes and
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: like all the stuff that you wish everybody got to
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: experience and kind of, you know, we had the privilege
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: of playing in the NFL and playing at the level
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: we got to to where you know, we're able to
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: have kind of these raw conversations and have fun with
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: all of our guests, uh, to where it is like
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: we the goal of bringing the locker room to life
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: is it is it sweaty and steamy. It has been
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: used to be and sometimes it still does. Just like
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: you know, your back and.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Towels laying everywhere on your.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: I told you about before. When we first started, we
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: were in the back of an RV park. Yeah, feeling
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: stealing heat in like ninety degree weather right next to
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: the train tracks.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: Plate, Yeah, that.
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  Speaker 3: First year we were we were it was because the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: bus doesn't run. It just sat in the gravel. It
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: was just in a gravel parking lot. And we would
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: have to tarp it up to where the heat wouldn't
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: get in and we're you know, July dying, and then
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: we'd have to power it with uh you know, if
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: we got to plug into the r V the r
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: V park or just running it off a generator or two.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: And that's how we kind of, you know, started it. Yeah,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: it's kind of how it got going. Then we got
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: in a little shed. Now we're in a little bit
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: better warehouse. I know, the working conditions can be better
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: for the team.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: Like you go, you walk into place like this, you're like, man,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: we really are screwing our should Yeah.
• 1:37:22
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• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: That's how you can find bust with.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: And how if people want to if people want to
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: have a laugh looking at you guys stuff. And you're
• 1:37:35
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• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very active on social media.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: We posted three times just be on the show. Yeah,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: we touch my phone once. That's how active we are.
• 1:37:43
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• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah at Busting WTB.
• 1:37:48
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• 1:38:09
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• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: What's going on here?
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the show, and I appreciate uh,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: you guys going and doing the duck hunt with us.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: Man, it was so much fun, so much fun. So
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: if you guys want to do it again, we are available.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: We will.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, thank you guys. This was this was a blast.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: No, you were a lot you guys, a lot of
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: fun to hang out with. And I appreciate your uh
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: uh good good guys to laugh with.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, goodvies. Four point five. Take that with you.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: I will take that with you.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: Four point five.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: The solid attempt at a beard, Yeah, it.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Was an attempt. I wouldn't say it's anything I ever
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: need to go back to great a mustache Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: By the way, you have a very strong mustache.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: Myself, I can't grow beard, so this is what I got.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: Ye, all all have is a mustache. It's all looks
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: like Pubi Carroll honestly.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I grew an entire guiding season. This is back
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: when I was living in Missoula entire fall guiding season.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: I decided, I was like, I'm going to force this
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: and I did not shave the entire time. And I
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: got back to town and went to like my favorite bar,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: bartenders right and uh like Charlie b situation, like all
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: female bartenders, and everyone was like, just what are you doing?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of pubes. Uh, I had to go do
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: this thing I was telling you guys, remember telling you
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: this or not? Like I had this like sort of
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: weird pain moving around my groinal region.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, we've talked about it.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: It was like over my legs, swollen testicles.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: You had the well, no, it wasn't, though you had
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: that rash. I don't know what be like in the
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: crease of my It's just moving around. And I know,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm real susceptible to stuff too, Like if you
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: tell me that, if you also said you had elbow cancer,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: I swear my elbowed hurt and Seth had some kind
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: of hernia deal going on, and but that wasn't it.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: And and so I had this wandering pain and then
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: your mind starts running away with you, and I'm always uh.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: So I was like, man, maybe maybe I got to
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: hern you, maybe I got testicular cancer. So I go
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: down and it's like, legit hurts, but they've ruled out
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: all the bad stuff. But uh, when you go to
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: get this done, this is the most It's not humiliating
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: beause everybody down there is cool.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: But you got it.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: They like you lay down, okay, and they come in
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: and they you say, you take your pants off. They
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: come in and say, like, lay your penis up on
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: your stomach, and then.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: That's so funny.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't worry.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: I'll hold it here the entire time.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: And then you put like a little towel over and
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: then they lay the boys like up on the platter like.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: Between and then they're like digging in there.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: It's so compromising.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: I had a sport, heard you, I had sarved. Yeah.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: The first that you think that gel gel, you tell
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: like anything going through your head about how like the
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: woman doesn't care.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: Tell me for a second. When that gel hit your mind,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: you're like, I come down here.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: What's so funny as you can tell? Yeah, just the
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: fact she's like this, I do this for a living. Yeah,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: I appreciate this is probably strange for you, but I
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: don't care. There's nothing I could see. There's nothing I
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: could not see that I care about.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: That's funny, that's awesome. Good for you on that.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: I'm fine. I still know why I have a little
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: phantom wandering pain. But maybe, like I don't know, strang
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: a little strange guys.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: So what is the next hunt? You guys gonna uh
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: started scheming and and find another one here after this
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: duck adventure.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: Part of me wants to hit some big game.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 4: Something about camping. I want to sit there and be like,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: it's been four days. We've been on the trail for
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: four days.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: We're un We can make you eat those words.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: You know, there's no question and.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm not what you would call a survivor. You're
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: not gonna put me in the wild to be like,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: we'll see in a week. I will be dead in
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: a week, picked apart, so I will definitely need you
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: if that was ever gonna be the case. Yeah, just
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: press the button, right.
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  Speaker 3: I think an l kunk would be really.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Everyone's to hunt them milk.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know a lot of them these days,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 5: to see I see.
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  Speaker 3: I think Bear would be sweet.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: In the Chester's office yesterday, he's got that. He's talking
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: me about the story of how he got it. I
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: was like, man, every story just an apex predator out there,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: me and him.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: It's roast beef of the woods man. That's Bears.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, what are you saying about ducks?
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: The prime rim of the Sky, the woods, Prime the Sky,
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  Speaker 1: It's all good everything guys, thanks for coming on the
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: show Man.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, I appreciate it.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. With the boys to subscribe. Listen
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  Speaker 1: good shooting over and out. All right, let's do that check.
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