Latest / Elon Musk Thinking / Latest: Elon Musk Speech, Talked about the SpaceX Super Intelligence Computer!!!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Latest interview of Elon Musk.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I mean, in a nutshell, what this implies for SpaceX
- 0:10Speaker 2: annual recurring revenue by the end of 27 is somewhere
- 0:15Speaker 2: between 500 billion and a trillion.
- 0:18Speaker 1: On that crazy note, I.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Don't want to give Brad a heart attack. So we
- 0:25Speaker 2: are in an inflection moment for SpaceX across launch connectivity
- 0:28Speaker 2: and and superintelligence. Starting with Starship, Flight 14 was a
- 0:33Speaker 2: critical milestone. Starship made it to orbit for the first
- 0:36Speaker 2: time and deployed operational Starlink V3 satellites. For Flight 15,
- 0:42Speaker 2: which we expect to happen next month, we're going to
- 0:45Speaker 2: attempt to catch both the booster and the ship. If
- 0:50Speaker 2: we succeed, it will be the first time that an
- 0:54Speaker 2: orbital launch vehicle has been fully recovered. This is a
- 1:01Speaker 2: massive technology milestone. The only way that we can extend
- 1:07Speaker 2: consciousness beyond Earth on a sustained basis is with a
- 1:10Speaker 2: fully reusable orbital launch vehicle. I think this is a
- 1:17Speaker 2: profound technology milestone in the history of civilization. Success is
- 1:23Speaker 2: not guaranteed on these first flights, but I'd say it's
- 1:27Speaker 2: more likely than not that this succeeds next flight. We
- 1:30Speaker 2: expect Starship to fly weekly at some point in the
- 1:35Speaker 2: first half of next year and then second half of
- 1:37Speaker 2: next year twice weekly or maybe even more frequently than
- 1:40Speaker 2: that by the end of next year. The rate at
- 1:42Speaker 2: which we launch Starship will increase dramatically as we solve
- 1:45Speaker 2: the rapid and complete reusability.
- 1:48Speaker 1: So we'll have complete reusability.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Then at first there will be a little bit of
- 1:51Speaker 2: refurbishment that's needed between each flight. and will iron out
- 1:56Speaker 2: the need for any refurbishment such that you can immediately
- 1:59Speaker 2: land the rocket and launch it again just like an airplane.
- 2:03Speaker 2: As I said, this is a profound technology milestone that
- 2:09Speaker 2: most people in the world don't realize how important it is,
- 2:12Speaker 2: but it will be.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Obvious in hindsight. Starlink is also just getting started.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Flight 14 deployed 26 terabits per second of Starlink bandwidth,
- 2:23Speaker 2: that's equivalent to 10 Falcon 9 launches. So a single
- 2:28Speaker 2: Starship launch, which wasn't even fully loaded, it was about
- 2:33Speaker 2: maybe half loaded, and it did the equivalent of 10
- 2:37Speaker 2: Falcon 9 launches. So what I expect over time is,
- 2:42Speaker 2: not in the distant future, probably within three years, is
- 2:48Speaker 2: that we will have about 100 times the bandwidth of
- 2:52Speaker 2: the current Starlink constellation.
- 2:55Speaker 1: So because we will have launched.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Satellites with an order of magnitude more bandwidth and we
- 3:03Speaker 2: will place into orbit an order of magnitude more Starlink satellites.
- 3:08Speaker 2: So probably something on the order of 100,000 satellites, each
- 3:12Speaker 2: of which have more than 10 times the bandwidth of
- 3:15Speaker 2: the current Starlink system. And I think the demand for
- 3:19Speaker 2: bandwidth is going to be dramatically higher than it is today.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I think in three to five years, there's probably a
- 3:28Speaker 2: demand for a thousand times more bandwidth than there is
- 3:31Speaker 2: currently because AI or SI agents will, on a per-agent basis,
- 3:42Speaker 2: use far more bandwidth than a person, and there will
- 3:45Speaker 2: be far more agents than there are people.
- 3:47Speaker 1: So this ends.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Up requiring a several order of magnitude increase in communication
- 3:54Speaker 2: bandwidth in order to satisfy that communication demand. I can
- 3:57Speaker 2: say we do see a clear path to several hundred
- 4:02Speaker 2: billion dollars a year in connectivity revenue. So talking about
- 4:05Speaker 2: SpaceX superintelligence, SpaceX SI, sexy, whatever. So I think people
- 4:16Speaker 2: are starting to realize the constraint on deployment of of
- 4:22Speaker 2: superintelligence is more in power and cooling and.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Infrastructure than it is in chips.
- 4:32Speaker 2: So what we've done at SpaceX is we've taken a
- 4:36Speaker 2: team that has been able to achieve a market share
- 4:39Speaker 2: in mass to orbit that is almost 90% of all
- 4:44Speaker 2: mass to orbit of Earth, where China is about, I think,
- 4:48Speaker 2: roughly 6% and the rest of the world combined, including
- 4:52Speaker 2: the rest of the U.S., is about 4%. So a
- 4:55Speaker 2: team that has been able to achieve results that are
- 4:57Speaker 2: an order of magnitude greater than the rest of all
- 5:02Speaker 2: competitors in space combined and applied that same team to
- 5:07Speaker 2: the deployment of terrestrial compute. So this is a bit
- 5:11Speaker 2: like the New York Yankees playing in Little League.
- 5:16Speaker 1: It's not fair. But the net result.
- 5:19Speaker 2: is being able to deploy power cooling infrastructure at a
- 5:22Speaker 2: rate that is vastly faster than anyone else and may
- 5:28Speaker 2: at some point be faster than everyone else combined.
- 5:31Speaker 1: So I just let that sink in for a minute.
- 5:35Speaker 2: I've been spending personally a lot of my time in Memphis,
- 5:38Speaker 2: often four days a week, night and day, just getting
- 5:44Speaker 2: the Memphis Super Compute Cluster classes to online classes We're
- 5:50Speaker 2: tracking to be able to bring roughly 200,000 GB300s online
- 5:56Speaker 2: per month for every month for the remainder of this
- 5:59Speaker 2: year and continuing that pace next year, with next year
- 6:06Speaker 2: being primarily Ruby, very Ruby compute.
- 6:12Speaker 1: At this point, I would say I'm.
- 6:16Speaker 2: I would say I'm fairly confident of being able to
- 6:20Speaker 2: bring an incremental 10 gigawatts of compute online in 2027.
- 6:28Speaker 2: That would be in addition to the roughly three gigawatts,
- 6:32Speaker 2: maybe two and a half, three gigawatts that we'll have
- 6:34Speaker 2: online by the end of this year.
- 6:36Speaker 1: So I.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Would be surprised if we brought on less than 13
- 6:42Speaker 2: gigawatts of compute by the end of next year. So
- 6:47Speaker 2: to make sure that that is not a constraint for
- 6:49Speaker 2: our build-out, we're actually going to aim for an incremental
- 6:53Speaker 2: 20 gigawatts of power cooling infrastructure next year.
- 6:58Speaker 1: So there is a.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Non-zero possibility, maybe it's a small possibility at this point,
- 7:04Speaker 2: but it's not zero, of SpaceX having over 20 gigawatts
- 7:09Speaker 2: of super intelligence compute online next year. a small possibility,
- 7:14Speaker 2: but it used to be zero. It's not zero anymore.
- 7:18Speaker 2: We're casting the blades and vanes for the turbines. So
- 7:24Speaker 2: SpaceX already has a very advanced castings capability that was
- 7:30Speaker 2: developed for rocket engines. So we have, I think, actually
- 7:34Speaker 2: the most advanced casting capability on Earth because the demands
- 7:40Speaker 2: for castings for rocket engines exceed the demands for anything
- 7:44Speaker 2: else you could possibly imagine. So taking that incredible team
- 7:51Speaker 2: that has, I think, objectively the most advanced casting technology
- 7:55Speaker 2: in the world and saying, hey, can you guys also
- 7:57Speaker 2: make some blades and vanes for terrestrial turbines is much
- 8:03Speaker 2: easier than what.
- 8:04Speaker 1: They have done in the past.
- 8:07Speaker 2: And when we talk to the turbine suppliers, they tell
- 8:09Speaker 2: us that the blades and vanes are 12 to 18
- 8:15Speaker 2: months behind the rest of the turbine. Meaning they can
- 8:18Speaker 2: deliver everything except the blades and vanes 12 to 18
- 8:21Speaker 2: months before they can deliver the blades and vanes. So
- 8:26Speaker 2: casting is this really difficult bottleneck. And if anything, it
- 8:30Speaker 2: seems to be getting worse. So that means that we
- 8:34Speaker 2: can bring power online 12 to 18 months faster than
- 8:38Speaker 2: anyone else. That's the kind of advantage that's difficult to replicate.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Unless someone else is building an advanced casting shop, they
- 8:49Speaker 2: will be unable to compete with SpaceX in this regard.
- 8:51Speaker 2: But it's what we're aiming for internally, is to make
- 8:55Speaker 2: our first sort of test chip functional in approximately May
- 9:00Speaker 2: or June of next year. That's just kind of a
- 9:04Speaker 2: SRAM chip or something to basically test the line. That's
- 9:07Speaker 2: at the research fab in Austin. And we're aiming to,
- 9:11Speaker 2: our aspiration is to reach volume production around Q3 of
- 9:15Speaker 2: 28 at TerraFab at Givens Creek, the main TerraFab location.
- 9:22Speaker 2: So these are obviously like insanely fast time frames for
- 9:26Speaker 2: chip production. We do have, I think, some significant potential
- 9:32Speaker 2: breakthroughs in in chip fabrication, but I don't think I
- 9:37Speaker 2: should discuss that on an earnings call.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Let's not give away the shop here.
- 9:44Speaker 2: But I am optimistic that we will dramatically accelerate chip
- 9:49Speaker 2: production and that TerraFab will ultimately do what the name suggests,
- 9:58Speaker 2: which is to make a Terra of super intelligence chips
- 10:03Speaker 2: per year. On the GrokBot side, we're seeing the fastest
- 10:08Speaker 2: growth of a product that I've ever seen in my
- 10:10Speaker 2: life for GrokBot.
- 10:17Speaker 1: I've never seen anything grow this fast.
- 10:20Speaker 2: I think Rockpot may end up being what uses most
- 10:24Speaker 2: of our superintelligence compute. We are also, frankly, hounded relentlessly
- 10:32Speaker 2: by every hyperscaler and by dozens of smaller companies to
- 10:41Speaker 2: rent more of our compute. So we could rent out
- 10:46Speaker 2: our compute several times over if we said yes to everyone.
- 10:53Speaker 2: That's just the situation here.
- 10:57Speaker 1: That's why I posted that.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Video meme of the Monty Python cheese shop sketch, where
- 11:05Speaker 2: the guy goes into a cheese shop to get some cheese.
- 11:08Speaker 2: And they actually have no cheese. And so he goes,
- 11:11Speaker 2: what about this kind of cheese? What about that kind
- 11:13Speaker 2: of cheese? And they really just don't have any cheese.
- 11:18Speaker 2: we've actually tried to offload some of our inference compute
- 11:23Speaker 2: to other cloud providers so that we can use more
- 11:25Speaker 2: compute for training. And we get the cheese shop sketch.
- 11:29Speaker 2: You know, they'll say like, well, we'll ask them about,
- 11:31Speaker 2: what about some, you know, GB300s? Nope, don't have any
- 11:34Speaker 2: of those. What about, you know, some GB200s? Nope, don't
- 11:38Speaker 2: have any of those. What about some TPUs?
- 11:40Speaker 1: Nope. What about some trainings? Nope.
- 11:41Speaker 2: What about some, okay, how about some H100s? And like, well,
- 11:46Speaker 2: we might have some, overseas somewhere, and then they'll check
- 11:50Speaker 2: and come back and say, nope, we don't have that either.
- 11:52Speaker 1: So it's ridiculous. Yeah, so I don't think we're going
- 11:58Speaker 1: to have an demand issue.
- 11:59Speaker 2: And it's not impossible that we will have a six-month
- 12:03Speaker 2: payback period for compute next year. I mean, this is
- 12:06Speaker 2: definitely the kind of question where I feel like I'm taft.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Dancing through a minefield. So I have to be thoughtful
- 12:14Speaker 1: about what I say here.
- 12:18Speaker 2: I think... So both SpaceX and Tesla have formed special
- 12:25Speaker 2: committees to discuss this idea at the request of shareholders.
- 12:30Speaker 2: And these special committees consist of independent directors. And because
- 12:39Speaker 2: I'm a conflicted party, I can't actually be in the
- 12:42Speaker 2: discussions of the special committees.
- 12:44Speaker 1: So it's sort of a.
- 12:47Speaker 2: it's an odd kabuki dance, uh, where two, two, two
- 12:51Speaker 2: groups of people are talking and I, I can't be
- 12:54Speaker 2: in the conversation. It's, it's, I think some people out
- 12:57Speaker 2: there assume that a SpaceX and Tesla merger is, is
- 12:59Speaker 2: a certainty. And I think that would be overstating it. Uh, the, uh,
- 13:05Speaker 2: you know, do, do I think it would be a
- 13:07Speaker 2: good idea?
- 13:08Speaker 1: Yes.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Um, but at the end of the day, uh, we, we, the,
- 13:13Speaker 2: the shareholders have to be supportive of this and, um,
- 13:17Speaker 2: And particularly on the Tesla side, we will need a
- 13:20Speaker 2: 50% vote of all shares, not just those who vote,
- 13:23Speaker 2: but of all shareholders. And that's quite a high hurdle
- 13:27Speaker 2: to try to achieve. And I can just say at
- 13:35Speaker 2: this point that the special committees have not reached agreement
- 13:38Speaker 2: on the terms of any transaction. And obviously, there's no
- 13:42Speaker 2: guarantee that they will. But I do think there's a
- 13:46Speaker 2: lot of merit to combining the companies as we are
- 13:51Speaker 2: pretty much in the superintelligence singularity. And there's a lot
- 13:56Speaker 2: to be gained from cooperating on developing superintelligence software, chip design,
- 14:04Speaker 2: the Terafab, obviously, robotics, mass to orbit with the star
- 14:10Speaker 2: mind constellation.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Connectivity. Connectivity. So....
- 14:17Speaker 2: I think it would be a good idea, but it's
- 14:21Speaker 2: really up to the special committees of both companies. They've
- 14:25Speaker 2: got to come up with something and then that's got
- 14:27Speaker 2: to be put to the shareholders as a vote.
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