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Getting "Clare-ification" · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with IR Radio. We are energized, we are excited. It's
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Speaker 1: the almost in his podcast, I'm Ben, what up, ash Hi,
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Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? I didn't ask if you're
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Speaker 1: okay or not. I was gonna ask you know what
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Speaker 1: I was gonna do, Ashley, why is it that you
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Speaker 1: want to go back home to Virginia for isolation? Because
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Speaker 1: I wanted to spend the time with my family. I
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Speaker 1: wasn't going to have anything else to do, so it
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Speaker 1: would be such a waste. I felt. If I wasn't
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Speaker 1: with my family, you and Jared might be producing the
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Speaker 1: best and most well produced TikTok content that there is
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Speaker 1: out there right now. That is such a nice compliment.
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Speaker 1: We are trying. How much time does it take you
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Speaker 1: in the course of it? Like I've always wondered this.
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Speaker 1: So we have the Tyler camerons of the world, and
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Speaker 1: you have the hand of browns uh, and we have
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Speaker 1: others in Batchelor Nation really kind of all over that
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Speaker 1: are feels like from an outsiders perspective perspective, Wow, they
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Speaker 1: must spend hours a day producing content. Ashley. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: watch your content. I'm I'm always amazed at how well
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Speaker 1: it comes out. How long does it take you to
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Speaker 1: make something like that happen? And then, in the same right,
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Speaker 1: how long do you think it takes the Tyler Cameron's
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Speaker 1: of the world to do what he's doing. It probably
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Speaker 1: takes about the same amount of time we put. We
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Speaker 1: put a little more thought into it. But how many hours?
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Speaker 1: Like when how many hours of your bet? It's really
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Speaker 1: not that much. When we do those musical productions that
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Speaker 1: we did on Instagram, those take about an hour each,
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Speaker 1: maybe an hour to film and then an hour for
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Speaker 1: Jared to edit. But TikTok's they're pretty easy because the
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Speaker 1: editing is right there in the app, So maybe fifteen
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Speaker 1: minutes to film. And yeah, insane, really like, you guys
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Speaker 1: are really good at that. I'm impressed. And for a
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Speaker 1: little pop culture crazy people. We love pop culture, So
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Speaker 1: if we get to imitate our favorites, we love that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: well it's fun to watch the content is being pushed
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Speaker 1: out like crazy right now. Well, hey, I guess we
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Speaker 1: should just probably jump into it, Ashley, A lot is
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Speaker 1: still happening. Embassadation. I don't know how. I don't get it,
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't make any sense to me that we
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Speaker 1: can be in isolation, in quarantine, yet we have a
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Speaker 1: list of hot topics to still to discuss every week.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's unbelievable. Like, thank goodness that this
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Speaker 1: season continues off air because who knows, and we'll be
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Speaker 1: back in season. So thank you, Peter Weber season for
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Speaker 1: continuing to crank out the drama. Can I just say
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Speaker 1: something before we move on from TikTok it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: out blonde. No, I can't believe some of the cringe
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Speaker 1: content out there. And sure you can call Jared and
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Speaker 1: my content cringe, I suppose, but it's actually insane how
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Speaker 1: many likes and views a video that just is so
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Speaker 1: basic it gets Yeah, look at my content. My content
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Speaker 1: is about as basic as it gets. And it Jesse
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Speaker 1: and I go, hey, we should try this dance that
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Speaker 1: seems to be trending, and so we try it. We're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: we did it all right. Philip, which is her brother,
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Speaker 1: let's videotape it. And then he does, and then we
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Speaker 1: post it and we laugh about it like it's cringe e.
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Speaker 1: There's no science to it. Really, it's a whole new world.
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Speaker 1: It's a playground that I hope I play in for
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Speaker 1: a very short period of time. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: this uh, this sand box of fun ends. All I
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Speaker 1: know is right now, I'm trying my best to stay
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Speaker 1: up on it. I'm enjoying watching you guys has been
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Speaker 1: fun for me. I know. There's a lot of stuff
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Speaker 1: out there. Uh and and quite frankly, I guess that's
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Speaker 1: where we'll start Bachelor News. It's now time for Bachelor
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Speaker 1: News again. We're gonna give some updates that have happened
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Speaker 1: this week, uh kind of revolving around Bachelor Nation. Let's
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Speaker 1: take one break, Ashley. When we come back, we'll fill
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Speaker 1: everybody in and let's start with some uh and I
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Speaker 1: put up my air quotes content that is uh controversial.
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Speaker 1: Right now, we'll back first hot topic, the Bachelor's Peter Webber.
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Speaker 1: If you've forgotten, yes, he was your last Bachelor. Cheers
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Speaker 1: on girls that still like me? After drama with Xes,
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Speaker 1: Madison and Hannah and Ashley, what do we got going on? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so Maddie put a TikTok out there. There's a TikTok
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Speaker 1: out there that featured uh, Kelsey, Tammy and a couple
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Speaker 1: of the other girls from his season, and it was
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Speaker 1: captioned this video featuring women who are too good for
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Speaker 1: Peter l O L. So wow, right, this comes on
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Speaker 1: top of Um, Maddie going on Caitlin's podcast this week
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Speaker 1: and talking about how days before the thing with Kelly
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Speaker 1: and Peter came out, Peter actually reached out to Maddie
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Speaker 1: and then Peter fired back and said, Maddie, you know
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Speaker 1: that there's more to this story, hmm. And then in addition,
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Speaker 1: there's more shade as far as the TikTok goes. Somebody
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Speaker 1: asked in the comments section, where's Kelly in this video?
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Speaker 1: And she said, with our x L O L. So
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Speaker 1: the biggest scoop I got from Yeah Yeah, and the
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Speaker 1: biggest scoop you get from Caitlin's podcast shameless plug her
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Speaker 1: off the Vine is that they Maddie seems the most
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Speaker 1: irritated with Kelly UM, and not so much Peter because
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Speaker 1: you know, Peter and her ended because they just weren't
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Speaker 1: super compatible. But Kelly was her best friend in the
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Speaker 1: house and a girl that she even imagined being a
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Speaker 1: bridesmaid one day in her wedding. And of course, since
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Speaker 1: Peter and and Kelly have been seen out together. Since
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Speaker 1: that first viral picture, they have not spoken. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm really it's this this whole like Peter thing right
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Speaker 1: now has intrigued us, right, it's called us once beginning.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand the Himelnes. Do you get the timelines
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Speaker 1: of how everything has gone down? Well? That was another
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Speaker 1: part of Caitlin's podcast. Um Maddie says that there is
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Speaker 1: some timeline issues that Peter doesn't seem very accurate with
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Speaker 1: when he was on that podcast row week, so basically
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Speaker 1: he was She was like, I feel like there's a
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Speaker 1: big chunk missing, and it seems like Kelly must have
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Speaker 1: been part of his life more predominantly than he led on.
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Speaker 1: And so I guess from all of you listening to that,
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Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean, Ashley, there's a lot of people
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Speaker 1: out there listening a lot of people out there, we know,
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Speaker 1: really good at investigating these things. How do we feel
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Speaker 1: about this? Right? Are we? Is this kind of like
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Speaker 1: an r situation where we go, hey, good for them,
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Speaker 1: they're happy, everybody's moving on, or are we sitting back
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Speaker 1: going there was some like weird stuff going on. I
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Speaker 1: don't think his viewers we've been able to see the
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Speaker 1: whole picture. There's obviously like more to the story or
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Speaker 1: are we just all going to move on right now?
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Speaker 1: I don't think we're moving on anytime soon, Okay, And
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Speaker 1: I I do believe Maddie has something when she says
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Speaker 1: that they must have been talking while he was still
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Speaker 1: talking to her pre finale um, because don't you remember
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Speaker 1: when Barbara wrote under Kelly's picture and I think it
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Speaker 1: was like the exact day of the Monday Night finale,
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Speaker 1: said something like I can't wait to lunch and shop
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Speaker 1: with you. So that alludes to the fact that Peter
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Speaker 1: must have had something semi romantic going along with Kelly
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Speaker 1: before he ended things with Matt. What a risky comment
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Speaker 1: if it really was kind of like a oh, I
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Speaker 1: don't realize what I'm doing kind of here, how much
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Speaker 1: trouble could that have gotten Peter into? If like that
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Speaker 1: comment ever was like legitimized to be something more than
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Speaker 1: what we took it as at the time, she was
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Speaker 1: just like, Hey, they want to connect and still be
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Speaker 1: friends and we don't really know why. We don't get it,
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Speaker 1: but like whatever, let them do their thing now. If
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Speaker 1: it does point to something happening before the finale, that
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Speaker 1: could have really blown up in the face of everybody.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's too late to blow up now, but I'm sure.
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Speaker 1: But in my personal view of it, all seems like
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Speaker 1: there must have been something. And um, I think we'll
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Speaker 1: have to talk to Kelly. I mean, I don't think
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Speaker 1: we'll necessarily get honest answers from like the Peter Kelly
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Speaker 1: camp um about the timeline of their relationship. Peter was
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Speaker 1: on us saying that they damned a bit and they
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Speaker 1: ran into each other a bit in l A before
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Speaker 1: the finale. But I really want to know more about
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Speaker 1: the friendship break between Maddie and Kelly. It's uh, it
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Speaker 1: is a story that continues. We don't understand the whole
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Speaker 1: picture because we don't have the full picture, but actually,
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Speaker 1: thank you for filling us in with what we do have.
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Speaker 1: Next story, Hey, our next bachelorette Bachelor Nation is Claire Crawley.
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Speaker 1: Claire Crawley slammed, yes, slammed, for shading Bachelorette contestant Matt James.
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Speaker 1: And when I say slammed, the reaction to Claire has not,
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Speaker 1: by any means been positive. I prepped for this by
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Speaker 1: reading through comments today. Ashley, why is she being hated
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Speaker 1: on so much right now. It's very crazy. This is
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Speaker 1: it's insane to me, the fan reaction. But I feel
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Speaker 1: like Matt has been doing enough press that if I
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Speaker 1: were Bachelorette, I might possibly be a little irritated as well. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you guys some of the headlines that
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Speaker 1: kind of demonstrate how much Matt has put himself out
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Speaker 1: there over the past couple of weeks. Okay, so this
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Speaker 1: is from April one, and this is an exclusive with
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Speaker 1: Life and Style. Headline says Tyler Cameron's bff, Matt James
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Speaker 1: is sure that they'll connect with Hannah Brown after coronavirus
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Speaker 1: and the text the body of the paragraph says, Hannah
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Speaker 1: Brown and Tyler Cameron are sure to reconnect after spending
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Speaker 1: time together in quarantine amidst the coronavirus pandemic. The former
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Speaker 1: Bachelorette contestant BF Matt James exclusively tells Life and Style
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Speaker 1: it says, quote, we will all connect again eventually unquote.
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Speaker 1: The soon to be contestant on Claire Crawley season says
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Speaker 1: while promoting n EOU Fitnesses twelve Hour thon benefiting Operation
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Speaker 1: Food Fight on Instagram Live this Thursday. So we all
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Speaker 1: know that Matt is very involved with charity and that
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Speaker 1: is amazing. UM. So here it seems like he reached
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Speaker 1: out to Life and Style or they reached out to him,
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Speaker 1: and he felt like he wanted to take up the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to promote something that does good for others. So
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Speaker 1: I can't can't get on them for that. Another headline
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Speaker 1: says exclusive new Quarantine crew Tyler sees BFF Matt James
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Speaker 1: is quote happy for Peter Webber and Kelly's TikTok videos.
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Speaker 1: The more the merrier. The body of the paragraph says
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Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron's BFF Matt James is happy quote um for
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Speaker 1: Peter Webber and Kelly Flanagan. Um. He goes on to
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Speaker 1: say Matt thinks that the reality stars are amplifying a
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Speaker 1: positive message. He exclusively tells Life and Style again. I
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Speaker 1: can see Claire getting a little annoyed with the amount
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Speaker 1: of times that he's exclusively giving information to the entertainment magazines.
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Speaker 1: Last headline that I found was on April two. Headline
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Speaker 1: says Matt James is looking forward to meeting bachelor at
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Speaker 1: Claire Crawley post quarantine. Quote. I've been very patient. The
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Speaker 1: body of the paragraph reads, waiting for his love story.
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Speaker 1: Matt James is still eager to compete for Claire Crawley's
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Speaker 1: heart on season sixteen of The Bachelorette, despite the delay
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Speaker 1: in production caused by the coronavirus. Here's his quote. I've
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Speaker 1: been patient up until this point. There's a young woman
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Speaker 1: in Sacramento right now that I'm looking forward to meeting
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Speaker 1: once this stuff has all settled down. Uh. He goes
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Speaker 1: on to say, So, I'm hoping that I can be
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Speaker 1: patient a little bit longer and ride this thing out
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Speaker 1: and everyone's safe, and then we can get back to
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Speaker 1: our daily lives moving forward. Basically, after a couple exclusive
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Speaker 1: chats with entertainment magazines, I can see why Claire, an
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Speaker 1: old school bachelorette, somebody who wasn't around when the press
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Speaker 1: covered the Bachelor the way they do these days, a
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Speaker 1: time without TikTok and at a time without Instagram, how
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Speaker 1: she could be annoyed by the amounts that he is
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Speaker 1: speaking to the press before his season. I am somebody who,
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Speaker 1: you know, pretty notorious for taking advantage of every opportunity
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Speaker 1: that comes at me, So I can't can't fault him
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Speaker 1: for that, I'm like the queen of taking advantage of
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Speaker 1: what this franchise has given me and taking press ops.
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Speaker 1: But in my personal taste, if I were Clear's position,
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Speaker 1: seem this amount of press that he's done, seeing him
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Speaker 1: on Cameo um before his season, before coming onto my season,
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Speaker 1: it will leave a bad taste in my mouth. So
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Speaker 1: I get that she doesn't want her guys doing all
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Speaker 1: this press. Yeah, And I mean he's been out there.
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Speaker 1: You don't see that. So this is unprecedented in the
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Speaker 1: sense of we've never seen a contestant before even the
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Speaker 1: show has started airing, start to get on the press circuit. Now,
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Speaker 1: we also have never had a scenario where contestants have
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Speaker 1: been announced then there's been a delay and and and
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Speaker 1: they've also had a connection to to the press so easily.
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Speaker 1: Now I get it, Like, it's crazy to me that
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Speaker 1: all of this is happening right now. There's really no
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Speaker 1: rules for the shutdown and what's going on with COVID nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Here's my concern actually, and here's why I think we
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Speaker 1: should take this is Matt's been out there in the press.
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Speaker 1: He's been talking, he's he's been sharing things. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've seen the comments people are saying, oh, come on, Claire,
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Speaker 1: be nice to him. He's doing it for charity. I've
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Speaker 1: also seen the comments of this is ridiculous. Why is
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Speaker 1: he trying to get fame? Right now? Both sides okay,
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Speaker 1: we we don't even need to say whose side we're on.
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Speaker 1: The truth is this. Claire has now spoken out against
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Speaker 1: Matt very clearly said Hey, I'm not okay with this.
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Speaker 1: I don't like this. It doesn't make sense to me
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Speaker 1: on why you are out there doing cameos and press
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Speaker 1: before the season even starts. That shows that you're not
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Speaker 1: here for the right reasons. That is what she has
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Speaker 1: said on her tweet. If that is the case, how
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Speaker 1: can Matt James be on her season at any level?
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Speaker 1: If they already are doing this with each then just
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Speaker 1: he he can't. I just don't think it's a good
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Speaker 1: idea for him to to be honest. And then there's
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Speaker 1: the whole he created a cameo thing, and he created
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Speaker 1: a cameo. She calls him out on Twitter for creating
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Speaker 1: the cameo and doing press um and then what the
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Speaker 1: fans are coming out after her about is that the
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Speaker 1: cameo money is supposedly going towards charity. Well, actually it
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Speaker 1: is going towards charity, but he didn't make that clear
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Speaker 1: before getting on cameo, so he's he fired back, if
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Speaker 1: you want to use the dramatic language. He fires back
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Speaker 1: and on on Instagram story and says, I created a
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Speaker 1: cameo and the money is going to be going to
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Speaker 1: this charity. I'm doing it with this New York Giant. Well,
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Speaker 1: his friend who is a New or Giant, ends up
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Speaker 1: screenshot or you know, re gramming um Matt's post and says, well,
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Speaker 1: we never talked about this, but I'm down for the challenge.
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Speaker 1: All the donations will be going towards Robin Hood and
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Speaker 1: y C and Team nigu. Uh Okay. It just seems
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Speaker 1: like Matt got caught in sort of kind of a
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Speaker 1: sticky situation there because it seems like he never previously
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Speaker 1: announced that the cameos are going to charity. And I
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Speaker 1: don't think I think, and I think because he never
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Speaker 1: announced that the cameos are going to charity, that it's
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Speaker 1: totally fine that Claire express frustration over him having a
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Speaker 1: cameo and doing press and I know that Matt has
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Speaker 1: done so much wonderful work for charity alongside Tyler and
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Speaker 1: the ABC food tours. Um, And maybe if you're a
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Speaker 1: super fan, you could see that, like you would assume
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Speaker 1: that it was going to charity. But I think that
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Speaker 1: I think that Claire had every right to express frustration
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Speaker 1: over this. So I'm not saying I'm one team or
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Speaker 1: the other, but I am saying there's already enough tension
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Speaker 1: between these two they can't be on the show that
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Speaker 1: they can't be on the show together. He knows that
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Speaker 1: he'll get eliminated night one. He he has to know
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Speaker 1: that Claire is going to clarify him the way that
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Speaker 1: she is so notoriously known for doing. Why doesn't he
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Speaker 1: just wait until the following season and go and explore
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Speaker 1: relationship with somebody else? Yeah, I mean I think that's
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Speaker 1: the answer here is like, no matter what you think
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Speaker 1: or feel, it would be weird in a lot of
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Speaker 1: ways if they now start out the season together and
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Speaker 1: if he does make it past night one, we would
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Speaker 1: I think I would just feel odd about it if
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Speaker 1: it went with clear right now after they're like already
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Speaker 1: kind of like publicly um arguing, and I will say
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Speaker 1: this and Claire's defense, Uh, I don't know a lot
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Speaker 1: of the behind the Sword of Matt is a sensitive
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Speaker 1: time for this here for the right reasons kind of stuff. Right,
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Speaker 1: we just got off a Peter season where one of
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Speaker 1: the biggest issues that we had was where audiences and
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Speaker 1: contestants all admitted yet we weren't really there for the
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Speaker 1: right reasons, Like we were there to get the the
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Speaker 1: attention that the show brings. If we happen to end
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Speaker 1: up with Peter, great, but this is a lot more
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Speaker 1: of a focus on how can I get something out
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Speaker 1: of this? And it was a this could be my
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Speaker 1: love story being played out. For Claire, this is a
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Speaker 1: serious thing for her, like this is a big deal,
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Speaker 1: it's a huge opportunity. She's very excited to potentially find
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Speaker 1: her partner from this experience. And so I do get
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Speaker 1: where she is sensitive to the here for the right reasons, Uh,
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Speaker 1: chat and talk, because she is definitely gonna be there
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Speaker 1: for the right reasons. Claire wants to find her partner
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Speaker 1: in this. That's why she's saying yes to this. I though,
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Speaker 1: I do think though that before this whole thing starts,
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Speaker 1: especially during a time where there are no rules and
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Speaker 1: we don't have any clear your guidelines on what we
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Speaker 1: should and should not be doing. I think we all
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Speaker 1: have to walk through this with a little bit of
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Speaker 1: grace and understanding that if Matt James did this for charity,
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Speaker 1: and he's done these press outlets just because he's bored,
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Speaker 1: and he's doing all this other stuff not for attention
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Speaker 1: at all, which is what he's claiming, then we say,
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Speaker 1: all right, let's see how it goes. But I just
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Speaker 1: it's hard for me to imagine that being the case
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Speaker 1: right now. Now, Ben, why do you think the fans
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Speaker 1: are coming at Claire so hard for this? Also? I
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Speaker 1: want to say that Claire did tweet yesterday saying that
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Speaker 1: she was not pointing this at one specific person. She
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Speaker 1: was not coming just at Matt. And it backs up
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Speaker 1: because there were two other guys from her supposed cast
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Speaker 1: that signed up for CAMEO. One I don't have his name.
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Speaker 1: I saw it a couple of days ago before this
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Speaker 1: whole Matt thing came up. And then the other one
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Speaker 1: is Dale Moss, who is, if I believe, former NFL
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Speaker 1: athlete he makes yeah, he must be former. So like
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Speaker 1: it's not just Matt. She's concerned that she's not going
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Speaker 1: to find somebody out of this her for her fifth whirl. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting season, Ashley, and there is
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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure to it. I think it's one
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why we're both excited for it is
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Speaker 1: it feels like, hey, we need to either root for
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Speaker 1: Claire to find somebody or this is gonna be um
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Speaker 1: I said, I mean it's that a sad finish. If
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Speaker 1: she doesn't find somebody through this, it will hurt her
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Speaker 1: heart and our heart. Uh So, you know, like Matt
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Speaker 1: or not or support the people doing press or not?
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Speaker 1: We I am I will be in the corner of, Hey,
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Speaker 1: give Claire the best possible shot to have the one
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Speaker 1: group of people if if we just get it for
21:49
Speaker 1: this season that are there for their love story, Like
21:53
Speaker 1: just give that to her. Like, let's really weed out
21:55
Speaker 1: the people that aren't there or could not be there
21:57
Speaker 1: for the right reasons. Give Claire affair show because that's
22:01
Speaker 1: the reason we're gonna be tuning in is to see
22:03
Speaker 1: Claire extremely extremely happy in the end. Why um, why
22:09
Speaker 1: are people reacting this way to Claire is? I mean,
22:12
Speaker 1: I I think I think there's two reasons. One Matt
22:15
Speaker 1: is relevant. Right now, we've seen more of Matt in
22:18
Speaker 1: a sense than we have of Claire in years. I
22:20
Speaker 1: think Matt, uh, I think Claire has kind of been hidden,
22:24
Speaker 1: and I also think Claire is known, her personality is
22:28
Speaker 1: known to be the one that definitely comes down hard
22:32
Speaker 1: on people, uh during their time on the show. I mean,
22:36
Speaker 1: she did it with Juan Pablo rightfully, so uh, she's
22:39
Speaker 1: done it on Winter Games with I forget his name
22:42
Speaker 1: at this Christian I think his name was at this point, Like,
22:44
Speaker 1: she has been the one for, you know, to come
22:47
Speaker 1: down hard on people. I think people might be going
22:50
Speaker 1: Claire like walk into this being a little kinder, Like
22:53
Speaker 1: you don't have to be the police of this show.
22:57
Speaker 1: You're just the lead here, Like you don't have to
22:59
Speaker 1: be police. You don't have to be the one that
23:02
Speaker 1: jumps on everybody for any decision or thing they say.
23:05
Speaker 1: Just let's let's get behind you here to find your
23:07
Speaker 1: love story. But don't don't be hostile at the beginning,
23:11
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to walk into this, Matt already,
23:13
Speaker 1: I can see that. I can totally see people are
23:15
Speaker 1: coming from there. I need to close on saying that.
23:18
Speaker 1: I think it's still if Matt had made it so
23:22
Speaker 1: obvious that it was for charity. I think people would
23:26
Speaker 1: be able to say, like, okay, um, Claire, you definitely
23:30
Speaker 1: jumped down his throat too soon. But it's obvious based
23:34
Speaker 1: on the social media activity that he did not make
23:36
Speaker 1: it clear that it was for charity. So I'm not
23:38
Speaker 1: sure why people are just going to smack Claire before
23:42
Speaker 1: ever raising an eyebrow to Matt. Yeah, now I'm with you. No,
23:47
Speaker 1: I agree. I think I think there is I'm wondering
23:50
Speaker 1: the same thing. And you know, especially for Matt's friend
23:54
Speaker 1: to go, hey, we've never talked about this. You said
23:55
Speaker 1: this is for charity that we're doing together, and you've
23:57
Speaker 1: never brought this to my opinion, and to say that publicly, Uh,
24:00
Speaker 1: it all feels weird. All I can say is, let's
24:03
Speaker 1: take a step back. Realize it's the wild West right now.
24:05
Speaker 1: There's a lot of laws not being um stuck to.
24:09
Speaker 1: We're all trying to figure it out. But I just
24:12
Speaker 1: to close, I just don't think Matt James can go
24:14
Speaker 1: on clear season. It just doesn't make sense now at
24:16
Speaker 1: this point unless we just want or doing it just
24:18
Speaker 1: to have controversy, which doesn't feel healthy at all. Hey. Final, uh, well,
24:24
Speaker 1: second to final, topic. H Tyler Cameron says he and
24:27
Speaker 1: Hannah Brown are just starting off as friends and not
24:30
Speaker 1: in a place to date right now. I mean, I
24:33
Speaker 1: think the headline speaks for herself. Actually, anything to add here, No,
24:36
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's that's it. Uh. And lastly, yes,
24:42
Speaker 1: according to Nick Viles podcast, Jessica and I are not
24:46
Speaker 1: sharing rooms at this time. Uh shocker, I guess, uh
24:50
Speaker 1: weird to have this uh as now a dinner conversation
24:54
Speaker 1: for her family, my family and Jesse and I a
24:57
Speaker 1: healthy conversation to have. I mean, this is something I've
25:00
Speaker 1: never shied away from. It's it's you know, when it
25:02
Speaker 1: comes to sex and talking about the boundaries that you
25:05
Speaker 1: know I've set with my uh with my partner. It's
25:09
Speaker 1: it's not something I want to hide. But it's also
25:10
Speaker 1: weird to be talking about, so that it is true. Uh.
25:14
Speaker 1: We Uh, we're excited about this decision. It's been the
25:17
Speaker 1: healthiest decision for us. I think people are uh confused
25:21
Speaker 1: about it or like going, what in the world's going
25:23
Speaker 1: on here? It's the decision we made that we thought
25:26
Speaker 1: was best for us as a couple to allow us
25:29
Speaker 1: the healthiest relationship. Um. And we wanted to do that
25:32
Speaker 1: because we knew that we had something special and we
25:34
Speaker 1: wanted to do we wanted to do some things personally
25:37
Speaker 1: to make sure that we were setting ourselves up for
25:40
Speaker 1: the most success. And this is one of the decisions
25:42
Speaker 1: we've made and it's been really good for us. It
25:44
Speaker 1: might not be for everybody. I get it. I'm not
25:47
Speaker 1: saying it should. All I know is that for Jessica
25:49
Speaker 1: and I, um, it's been healthy and it's been great,
25:52
Speaker 1: and we're really excited for what the future holds. I mean,
25:55
Speaker 1: it's worked so far. We're happily engaged, having a great
25:58
Speaker 1: time being engaged. Um. But yeah, that's that's the clarity there. Uh,
26:02
Speaker 1: it was everywhere this week. Holy cow, nothing nothing is
26:07
Speaker 1: more awkward than uh than having to call your your
26:10
Speaker 1: future in laws being like, hey, I'm sorry. Well hey,
26:14
Speaker 1: at least your future in laws are hearing that there's
26:17
Speaker 1: nothing going on better than the opposite, right, Hey, Actually
26:24
Speaker 1: that's the headlines of this week. We as we said,
26:25
Speaker 1: we did have a lot, a lot to break down there.
26:28
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26:30
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26:33
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26:44
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26:47
Speaker 1: doing along with I Heart Team. We would love to
26:50
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26:54
Speaker 1: rate us, review us. Actually, we'll take one more break
26:56
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna break down this week's
26:59
Speaker 1: episode of Listen to Your Heart. We're back with another
27:12
Speaker 1: week of The Bachelor Presents Listen to your Heart. Like
27:15
Speaker 1: the show or not, it is The Bachelor Presents and
27:19
Speaker 1: as a result, the Almost Famous podcast is gonna be
27:21
Speaker 1: breaking it down now. This week's episode, we're gonna fly
27:24
Speaker 1: through it because we do have a very special guest
27:26
Speaker 1: who I'm very interested to talk to and I know
27:29
Speaker 1: Ashley is as well. Uh, Savannah from the show will
27:32
Speaker 1: be coming on after we break it down to discuss
27:34
Speaker 1: everything Listen to Your Heart. But before we bring Savannah,
27:38
Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring producer tore On, who is a
27:41
Speaker 1: massive fan of The Bachelor Presents Listen to Your Heart.
27:44
Speaker 1: She freaks out every week over the episodes. She can't
27:47
Speaker 1: say enough great things about it. Her heart is in
27:51
Speaker 1: it and she's listening Tori, how you doing? I can't
27:55
Speaker 1: get enough of it? Then? UM, all right, so Ashley,
28:00
Speaker 1: you're really good at breaking these down. I am not,
28:04
Speaker 1: because I will say this from the top. I like
28:08
Speaker 1: the contestants and I enjoy hearing their stories. I am
28:12
Speaker 1: not a fan of this show, and I'll tell you why.
28:16
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm watching okay, and you guys
28:19
Speaker 1: can maybe explain it to me. I don't know if
28:21
Speaker 1: I'm really there for the love stories. It feels like
28:23
Speaker 1: the love stories are kind of forced, like you need
28:25
Speaker 1: to choose your partner now and and what you know,
28:29
Speaker 1: and then love will come if you can sing together. Well,
28:32
Speaker 1: here's the truth. I have dated people who can sing
28:35
Speaker 1: really well, and I don't think me singing well had
28:39
Speaker 1: anything to do with our success or failure at any moment.
28:43
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna sit back. I'm gonna let you too
28:45
Speaker 1: take it from here. I'll chime in when I can
28:47
Speaker 1: prove to me on why I should be so invested
28:49
Speaker 1: in this thing. Ben, Now that you give me such
28:53
Speaker 1: like you make this show have so much depth, I
28:56
Speaker 1: don't know if I can really give you an answer.
28:59
Speaker 1: I think it's just entertainment. That's why you're watching. It's
29:02
Speaker 1: just supposed to be entertaining story. Is that why you watch?
29:06
Speaker 1: Is it entertaining to you? Or you in it? I'm
29:09
Speaker 1: kind of in it. And I always got these character
29:11
Speaker 1: developments where I mean, there's a there's Brie and Chris
29:15
Speaker 1: and she was like previously in gig before and that
29:19
Speaker 1: whole wedding it didn't happen, and now you're kind of
29:21
Speaker 1: like rooting for that. I say, Brie and Chris seems
29:24
Speaker 1: to be the only couple that I see getting out
29:26
Speaker 1: of this show still as a couple. Wait, why not
29:30
Speaker 1: Trevor and Jamie Um. I just feel like he's probably
29:33
Speaker 1: gonna pull one of his usual things. He's not going
29:36
Speaker 1: to be able to commit like um long distance, and
29:40
Speaker 1: she's so young. I just feel like there's not a
29:44
Speaker 1: stability there in their relationship. They have a really sweet,
29:46
Speaker 1: like summer crush. I don't really know that they have
29:49
Speaker 1: like what it takes to go to long haul. I'm
29:52
Speaker 1: laughing at the fact that it sounds like you've known
29:55
Speaker 1: Trevor for years, because you're like, he's gonna go do
29:57
Speaker 1: the same thing it always does. Well, we know that
30:00
Speaker 1: Trevor has a sketchy background. As we learned last week,
30:03
Speaker 1: he has emotionally cheated in the past. I think there's
30:05
Speaker 1: been multiple girls. It was definitely like a fleeting topic.
30:10
Speaker 1: You know, they tease it up and then it was like, Oh,
30:13
Speaker 1: I emotionally cheated, but I'm going to be here for you.
30:17
Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about how that would have been
30:20
Speaker 1: a way bigger narrative if this was on The Bachelor,
30:23
Speaker 1: and that listen to your heart is allowing it to
30:26
Speaker 1: be seen almost like you sympathize with him that he
30:29
Speaker 1: was really struggling and didn't speak up in that relationship
30:32
Speaker 1: and you must feel more connected to him the Jed
30:37
Speaker 1: and that didn't help work well for him. You know,
30:39
Speaker 1: it felt like that was the worst thing you could
30:42
Speaker 1: have ever done. But with Trevor, you're really really are
30:45
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, I get it. You just you
30:46
Speaker 1: wanted to leave her, but you didn't. Well. With Jed,
30:49
Speaker 1: it was something that was currently supposedly still going on,
30:53
Speaker 1: and then with Trevor, it seems like it's a relationship
30:55
Speaker 1: in his past. That's the difference. Well, let cut in
31:00
Speaker 1: here then, uh, let's break down this week's episode. Uh.
31:04
Speaker 1: Tori do you mind staying on for that because I
31:07
Speaker 1: have a feeling that my opinions. I mean, I'll be
31:10
Speaker 1: as honest as possible and you, guys, I want you
31:12
Speaker 1: to convince me otherwise. I was interested the first week,
31:18
Speaker 1: questionable the second week, and at now the third week
31:20
Speaker 1: hits and I'm like, I'm gonna keep watching because I'm
31:23
Speaker 1: in it already, Like I'm I'm far because I have
31:25
Speaker 1: a podcast, well, because I have a podcast. And it's
31:27
Speaker 1: kind of like a bad season of the Bachelor or Bachelor.
31:31
Speaker 1: It's like, you can't stop now, like I gotta see
31:33
Speaker 1: if these things work out or not or got wins.
31:35
Speaker 1: It's just I'm in it now, but I'm still not
31:39
Speaker 1: convinced and I'm not sold on. I guess I'm not going.
31:45
Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't wait till next week. And that's
31:47
Speaker 1: typically how I judge good shows or not, like Ozark's
31:50
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it four episodes tomorrow night, listen
31:54
Speaker 1: to your heart. Well, I can take a few weeks off. Anyways. Hey,
31:57
Speaker 1: let's start here. We're gonna start with the very first
32:00
Speaker 1: part of this episode. We'll run through it. Ashley. How
32:03
Speaker 1: about you lead Tor and me through this it's gonna
32:06
Speaker 1: be Brandon, uh is split between Julia and Savannah. Savanna
32:10
Speaker 1: will be coming on in a second take it away. Yeah,
32:13
Speaker 1: so you know, Brandon gave Savannah his rose, but then
32:17
Speaker 1: kind of comes up to Julian says, hey, I wanted
32:20
Speaker 1: her to stick around. I knew you'd be sticking around
32:23
Speaker 1: because you'd be getting Sheridan's rose. And I just want
32:25
Speaker 1: you to know that just because I gave her rose
32:26
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that like I'm I'm stuck on her, like
32:28
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a real relationship. I'm still feeling
32:31
Speaker 1: things out between the two of you. Uh. Fast forward,
32:35
Speaker 1: we see Brandon and Savannah pretty much couple up as
32:39
Speaker 1: soon as Gabe pulls Savannah aside and she goes, nah,
32:43
Speaker 1: it's not it's not gonna be. You can't can't go
32:45
Speaker 1: forward with you. Um. But then so then you know,
32:50
Speaker 1: Savannah's single and on the verge of leaving the house
32:53
Speaker 1: because Chris Harrison says, you must couple up. The people
32:57
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be with now are the people that
33:00
Speaker 1: you're going to be performing with and going forward with
33:02
Speaker 1: in this competition. Uh So, then all of a sudden,
33:07
Speaker 1: Brandon quickly chooses Savannah, and Julia gets coupled up with
33:12
Speaker 1: Sheridan by what seems like default, because she definitely seems
33:17
Speaker 1: to have Brandon on the mind more than Sheridan. She
33:20
Speaker 1: definitely like thinks that Sheridan is probably the better option.
33:24
Speaker 1: He really loves her, really cares about her, or maybe
33:26
Speaker 1: not love, but you know he's he's all in right,
33:30
Speaker 1: He's the safe option, the sweet guy that you want
33:33
Speaker 1: to be into. But you know that you are feeling
33:36
Speaker 1: more pulled towards the bad boy in the situation, which
33:38
Speaker 1: is probably Brandon. So let me put you off there then,
33:42
Speaker 1: because I think there's a lot going on. Uh. We
33:45
Speaker 1: were going to bring her on afterwards, but because this
33:49
Speaker 1: starts out so much with the Savannah talk, let's just
33:52
Speaker 1: bring Savannah in now. Yeah. Well, hey Savannah, it's great
33:56
Speaker 1: to have you on. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks
33:59
Speaker 1: for having me at. Good to see you guys. So
34:01
Speaker 1: we were just going over all the gossip of episode three.
34:06
Speaker 1: I've listened to your heart. Gabe comes to you early
34:09
Speaker 1: in the episode and says, hey, I'm into you, and
34:12
Speaker 1: you were super honest with him and you're like, I'm
34:14
Speaker 1: not really into you, leaving you with what you thought
34:20
Speaker 1: was no options, but then all of a sudden, Brandon
34:23
Speaker 1: comes around and says, yeah, like, uh, I want to
34:27
Speaker 1: choose you over Julia, and he just keeps going back
34:30
Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. What what? What was your thoughts?
34:34
Speaker 1: Why did you think that he had to quick turn
34:36
Speaker 1: around because earlier in the morning he was telling Julia
34:39
Speaker 1: that he wanted to explore that. Fast forward a couple
34:42
Speaker 1: of hours and he was quote unquote committed to you, right.
34:48
Speaker 1: I think episode three has been really interesting to watch
34:51
Speaker 1: back because you have to remember that I only have
34:54
Speaker 1: my perspective and what I've been told with my relationship
34:56
Speaker 1: with Brandon, So I didn't know about the conversation before.
35:01
Speaker 1: All I knew was when Brandon and I had our moment.
35:04
Speaker 1: I've been saying, Hey, I want to do this with you.
35:06
Speaker 1: I just trusted that and I was like, hey, it's
35:08
Speaker 1: me and you. Um. He hadn't really mentioned too much
35:11
Speaker 1: about the whole Julia situation, so at this point I'm
35:14
Speaker 1: just like, hey, I've told you that I am kind
35:18
Speaker 1: of uncertain of what this is and it's time to
35:21
Speaker 1: go whatever I said, and he's like, We're going to
35:24
Speaker 1: do this, and it's it's me and you. So I
35:27
Speaker 1: thought that that was really solid. I didn't really realize
35:29
Speaker 1: that there was another conversation that happened just before it. Okay,
35:35
Speaker 1: but then you and Julia were also talking before the
35:40
Speaker 1: couples were officially chosen, and she was telling you, yeah, um,
35:44
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of set on Brandon, and You're like,
35:47
Speaker 1: oh damn. I didn't know that that was still a thing.
35:51
Speaker 1: So how do you think that you went from that
35:54
Speaker 1: to being coupled up with Brandon? So I have to
35:59
Speaker 1: remember back to all of it. Um. So I think
36:03
Speaker 1: that conversation with Julia, she had just told me about
36:08
Speaker 1: their conversations, and again I'm just like, hey, I'm I'm
36:11
Speaker 1: doing this thing with Brandon, And that was really where
36:14
Speaker 1: my mind was, um. And so I was a little
36:17
Speaker 1: bit shocked whenever Julia had mentioned, um that there's conversations
36:21
Speaker 1: going down between the two of them. But again, in
36:24
Speaker 1: the height of the moment, I think Brandon had just
36:27
Speaker 1: told me, Hey, we're gonna do this, and I believed
36:29
Speaker 1: him and I trusted him and was like, Okay, it's
36:31
Speaker 1: just it's me and you and we're just we're going
36:33
Speaker 1: to do this thing. Um. And so in my mind
36:36
Speaker 1: that was set and solid, and it was like everything
36:39
Speaker 1: else is off the table and it's just me and
36:41
Speaker 1: you got you. So then later in the episode, Julia
36:46
Speaker 1: becomes such a drama queen and it's seemingly so jealous
36:49
Speaker 1: of you. She keeps calling you out on not having
36:53
Speaker 1: genuine feelings towards Brandon, saying that you were moving too
36:56
Speaker 1: fast for somebody who normally says that they don't move
37:00
Speaker 1: fast in a relationship. And she was like, I don't
37:03
Speaker 1: have any failings or Brandon anymore. This is just an
37:06
Speaker 1: issue that I'm having with you. What was going on?
37:10
Speaker 1: It's a girl, don't lie to yourself. You keep going
37:13
Speaker 1: back and forth. She's like, I'm still thinking about Brandon.
37:15
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no feelings about Brandon. I still was
37:19
Speaker 1: feeling like this is not right with Sheridan, and I
37:21
Speaker 1: keep thinking about Brandon. And then it was like I
37:25
Speaker 1: got nothing just issues with you, Savannah, right right. So
37:30
Speaker 1: my my response to that is like, hey, if you
37:32
Speaker 1: really don't have feelings for him, then this is this
37:35
Speaker 1: conversation doesn't need to be happening. So it's kind of
37:38
Speaker 1: reading between the lines of that of like, Okay, well,
37:40
Speaker 1: I can tell that you're upset I can tell that
37:43
Speaker 1: there are obviously feelings there. So I think in those conversations,
37:49
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we trying to get at because again,
37:51
Speaker 1: like I've been trying to do my thing and I'm
37:52
Speaker 1: staying out of all of your drama and all everything
37:55
Speaker 1: that's going on there, and so um that it was
37:59
Speaker 1: just it was frustrating to think that, Okay, you're handling
38:03
Speaker 1: your relationship with Sheridan, and then you're feelings with Brandon.
38:06
Speaker 1: You're telling me you don't have feelings for him and
38:07
Speaker 1: almost speaking down about him, and that you know, at
38:12
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm just like, whatever you
38:13
Speaker 1: guys have dealt with, you're going to deal with it.
38:15
Speaker 1: That's fine. But if somebody tells me that, hey, I'm
38:18
Speaker 1: choosing you, I'm gonna take you at your word unless
38:20
Speaker 1: you give me a reason to not trust you. Um
38:23
Speaker 1: And at that point, when he had told me like, hey,
38:25
Speaker 1: it's me and you, I forgot about the conversation with Juliet.
38:28
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's done, that's settled, you've handled that.
38:31
Speaker 1: We're moving forward from here. So then she was also like,
38:35
Speaker 1: you're being disingenuous. But then she goes on that stage
38:38
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode performs amazingly. It was
38:41
Speaker 1: Sheridan apparently is like the best actress ever. Um so
38:46
Speaker 1: who's being disingenuous? Now? I think, honestly, this is what
38:52
Speaker 1: I believe. I really believe she was being authentically herself
38:57
Speaker 1: in that conversation, because is I really think that she
39:02
Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out. I mean, if you think about it,
39:05
Speaker 1: it's like she put herself in this situation where she's like,
39:09
Speaker 1: she goes on this amazing date with Sheridan, right, and
39:11
Speaker 1: then immediately comes back when we see that when she
39:13
Speaker 1: finds out the brand and I went on the date,
39:15
Speaker 1: She's distraught and then leaves the room because she's so upset.
39:19
Speaker 1: And so I think that Julia was just always in
39:21
Speaker 1: this situation where she's being pulled into directions and I
39:26
Speaker 1: don't know what was going on in her head, But
39:28
Speaker 1: whenever we had that conversation, I think she actually was
39:31
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out her stance here and maybe
39:35
Speaker 1: trying to look for a problem with me to call
39:37
Speaker 1: me out so that that clears up her feelings for Brandon.
39:39
Speaker 1: I don't know where I fit into all of that,
39:42
Speaker 1: but I think attacking my character was a little low um,
39:46
Speaker 1: especially since, like I said, I'm like, I've only been
39:50
Speaker 1: nice to you, Like I thought that we were friends.
39:52
Speaker 1: I thought that we were good. So all of this
39:54
Speaker 1: coming out and all this animosity and you're questioning me,
39:56
Speaker 1: and it was just so dramatic. It was so incredibly dramatic,
40:00
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, so do we have do we
40:03
Speaker 1: have a resolve to this conversation? It was none. It
40:06
Speaker 1: was more so just calling me out, to call me out,
40:07
Speaker 1: to make me feel bad. I'm like, well, I'm not.
40:10
Speaker 1: I don't because I know who I am and I
40:13
Speaker 1: know what I'm here to do, and I know what
40:14
Speaker 1: my relationship looks like. I don't know why that should
40:16
Speaker 1: affect you. That's that's my my question coming out of
40:21
Speaker 1: this is you know, Savannah, what do you think? And
40:25
Speaker 1: this isn't like a we didn't bring you on to
40:27
Speaker 1: talk about Julia, but there is a larger thing at
40:31
Speaker 1: play here where your storyline with Julia affects so much
40:35
Speaker 1: of this episode. What was her ideal outcome from having
40:39
Speaker 1: that conversation with you? Like, right now, as we're fans
40:42
Speaker 1: of the show, I'm confused on what Julia really wants.
40:45
Speaker 1: Does she want Sheridan. Is she interested in pursuing that?
40:48
Speaker 1: Is that really something real that She's like, I'm I'm
40:51
Speaker 1: excited about Is it too? Have you leave? Like? Is
40:56
Speaker 1: is her outcome to say, hey, Savannah, please walk out
40:58
Speaker 1: that door because I just want this to be my territory?
41:02
Speaker 1: Is it? Like? What what is she saying to you? Ben?
41:06
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, and I think I'm with
41:08
Speaker 1: you and wondering the same thing. And that's when I
41:10
Speaker 1: sat down she started the conversation with I was going
41:12
Speaker 1: to leave because of you. You would think that there
41:15
Speaker 1: if it got if it was that intense and that
41:18
Speaker 1: serious of an issue with me, that we would have
41:21
Speaker 1: had a conversation. I would have had an inkling towards
41:23
Speaker 1: there being a problem, And so that blindsided me. And
41:27
Speaker 1: so I don't. I really don't know. And that's what
41:29
Speaker 1: I asked her. I'm like, Okay, so what are we
41:31
Speaker 1: trying to get at? Because typically if you have an issue,
41:34
Speaker 1: you come to a person either saying, hey, you're behaving
41:36
Speaker 1: in this way and I think it's hurting you. So
41:38
Speaker 1: as a friend, maybe we go this direction, or there's
41:42
Speaker 1: some sort of a resolve um to come at the
41:44
Speaker 1: end of it, and so to me, I'm like, Okay,
41:47
Speaker 1: we're bringing up your opinion of me that you're blatantly
41:50
Speaker 1: telling me you think very poorly of me, But anything
41:53
Speaker 1: I have to say in response to it, you have
41:56
Speaker 1: no rebuttal to, and then just keep saying that I'm disingenuous.
42:00
Speaker 1: So I think there's the issue of her and Sheridan,
42:03
Speaker 1: then there's the issue of her and Brandon, and then
42:05
Speaker 1: suddenly one with me. And at the end of the day,
42:08
Speaker 1: I think if even if I would have walked out
42:10
Speaker 1: the door, I don't know if that would have made
42:14
Speaker 1: her decision any easier, any different. Um. But again, it's
42:19
Speaker 1: not like I was trying to be this mean girl
42:21
Speaker 1: walking in and all of our relationship, it was just like, Hey,
42:24
Speaker 1: this is my journey, this is what I'm here to do,
42:26
Speaker 1: and I have a connection with Brandon. I'm here to
42:28
Speaker 1: find love. I'm here to partner with somebody in music
42:30
Speaker 1: and love, and this is my person and thus far,
42:33
Speaker 1: he's chosen me every single time publicly that we've seen.
42:36
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I can't help you. You and
42:41
Speaker 1: Brandon seemed to actually have pretty good chemistry in the house.
42:44
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like the judges didn't think it
42:46
Speaker 1: translated to the stage. I think because first of all,
42:50
Speaker 1: the song that we were given was very upbeat. So
42:53
Speaker 1: if you look at all the other performances, there was
42:56
Speaker 1: a lot of these like UM, very like slow, sultry
43:00
Speaker 1: and very romantic songs. Then you look at our song
43:03
Speaker 1: and it was more upbeat, it was more rocky, it
43:06
Speaker 1: was more fun UM. And so something that Brandon and
43:09
Speaker 1: I talked about going into the performance was, hey, um,
43:13
Speaker 1: this one actually kind of captures the mood behind our
43:16
Speaker 1: relationship better than anything, because we are fun loving, we're
43:19
Speaker 1: outgoing or very like loud people, UM, and we just
43:24
Speaker 1: like to have a good time, and so that actually
43:25
Speaker 1: embodies our relationship really well. So going on to that stage,
43:29
Speaker 1: we knew, hey, we have to do a really good
43:31
Speaker 1: job above and beyond to be connected on that stage.
43:35
Speaker 1: But it's also really important to us to engage the
43:38
Speaker 1: crowd and to engage UM listeners to as performers. So
43:43
Speaker 1: he and I had to get on the same page
43:44
Speaker 1: before even going up on that stage and knowing that, hey,
43:47
Speaker 1: we've been given a challenging song, so let's connect the
43:50
Speaker 1: best that we can, but also show off the personality
43:53
Speaker 1: UM of our relationship and that was just like fun. UM.
43:58
Speaker 1: So I know that came back in the responses from
44:00
Speaker 1: the judges of hey, how do you feel about each other?
44:03
Speaker 1: How this and that until we are able to verbalize that.
44:06
Speaker 1: But I think that our performance really did capture who
44:09
Speaker 1: we were at that time, Like, as a couple, who
44:12
Speaker 1: chooses the songs? We were given the songs? So do
44:16
Speaker 1: you think that possibly certain songs are given to certain
44:20
Speaker 1: couples and certain songs are given to other couples to
44:25
Speaker 1: either propel you forward or make you fail. I think
44:29
Speaker 1: that all the songs given we're just unique. I think
44:32
Speaker 1: all of them are love songs, but they each had
44:34
Speaker 1: unique twist to them, and so part of that challenge. UM.
44:37
Speaker 1: Even going onto the show, it's like we know, we
44:39
Speaker 1: know that we're going to be challenged in a lot
44:40
Speaker 1: of ways, and one of those is the communication, um
44:43
Speaker 1: with your partner and then figuring out how to knowing
44:47
Speaker 1: that the judges are judging based on your connectivity and
44:50
Speaker 1: based on your love. UM. I think any of the
44:53
Speaker 1: songs had their own set of challenges, are just looked
44:56
Speaker 1: a little bit differently. UM. And actually what the judges
44:59
Speaker 1: said was something we said beforehand of Hey, they might
45:02
Speaker 1: say this, but we have to be okay with knowing
45:04
Speaker 1: that we put it all out there. Well, thank you
45:06
Speaker 1: so much for coming on, Savannah. This is actually gave
45:09
Speaker 1: so much clarity to our recap. I have one more question, Ben,
45:12
Speaker 1: you have anything, Yeah, definitely, so Savannah, Um, how important
45:18
Speaker 1: is it to have a connection musically, Uh, in a
45:21
Speaker 1: romantic relationship? Oh my gosh. There musicians everything. It's I mean,
45:26
Speaker 1: it's everything. I think if you're not a musician, it's
45:29
Speaker 1: hard to understand. But there there is something that happens
45:32
Speaker 1: whenever you really connect over your music, whether that is
45:36
Speaker 1: like the same kind of music you like listening to.
45:39
Speaker 1: But then it's so amplified whenever you're on stage and
45:42
Speaker 1: you have to perform with someone, because it's like all
45:44
Speaker 1: of your communication, all of your emotions, all your feelings,
45:47
Speaker 1: everything you abdore about that person is amplified when they
45:50
Speaker 1: open their mouth and they sound wonderful and you see
45:52
Speaker 1: them move and operate in their element, and when you
45:56
Speaker 1: are kind of in that same environment and you love
45:59
Speaker 1: it so much, it's like you look at each other
46:01
Speaker 1: and you're like, we're really doing this and I love that.
46:03
Speaker 1: I'm doing it with you, and so it's huge. Give
46:06
Speaker 1: us My final question for you before I actually finished
46:08
Speaker 1: you up here, is um, what was it like being
46:13
Speaker 1: in this experience? This is the first time ever for
46:15
Speaker 1: this show. You're just explaining how important it is to
46:18
Speaker 1: have that connection not only musically but also romantically m
46:23
Speaker 1: in my life. Maybe because I'm not a musician, I've
46:27
Speaker 1: never been given the opportunity to connect musically with somebody else.
46:33
Speaker 1: That's what this whole show is. What was it like?
46:37
Speaker 1: I mean, it was amazing, it really was. I think
46:40
Speaker 1: that Listen to your Heart was really, um, such a
46:43
Speaker 1: genius idea and that's why I committed to going onto
46:46
Speaker 1: it because it's it's fifty percent music and it's fifty
46:49
Speaker 1: percent love and UM, I think it's just electric whenever
46:53
Speaker 1: you can walk into a room. I mean, we walked
46:55
Speaker 1: into this mansion, right and we don't know anybody, and
46:58
Speaker 1: having watched other Bachelor's show os and knowing how it
47:01
Speaker 1: all goes down, it's mostly just relationship relationship. UM, and
47:06
Speaker 1: this one was so cool because you're meeting all of
47:08
Speaker 1: these amazing musicians, but then you're attracted to them, and
47:11
Speaker 1: then you know that you have the opportunity to go
47:13
Speaker 1: deeper with them through music. UM. And so it was amazing,
47:16
Speaker 1: Like it was passionate. It was amazing, It was electric.
47:20
Speaker 1: And I think everything that went on in that house
47:25
Speaker 1: was genuine, Like everything that we see and everything we experienced,
47:28
Speaker 1: like really happened. Um, all the years, all the laughter,
47:32
Speaker 1: I mean everything, UM, and the fact that we all
47:36
Speaker 1: just are passionate about music and passionate about each other
47:39
Speaker 1: in relationships, it just amplifies it all. Thank you. And
47:43
Speaker 1: the scenes from the next episode we see, uh, Julia
47:49
Speaker 1: and Brandon together looks like they could be rekindling something.
47:54
Speaker 1: Can you tease anything good? I'm just gonna have to
47:58
Speaker 1: watch watch episode and forward to find out because there's
48:01
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot, but you'll definitely have to watch. Okay, fine,
48:04
Speaker 1: follow up question, would you ever see anything with Sheridan
48:08
Speaker 1: if you guys did swap partners? Oh my gosh, listen
48:12
Speaker 1: to your heart meet's wife swap. Can you imagine? Oh
48:15
Speaker 1: my gosh, Sheridan and I are so I love him.
48:18
Speaker 1: He and I are very close. UM, but I don't
48:22
Speaker 1: I don't know. See, I was talking to someone the
48:25
Speaker 1: other day about this, Um, Sheridan and I actually spent
48:28
Speaker 1: so much time while we were filming because of everything
48:31
Speaker 1: that now we know is going down with like Brandon
48:34
Speaker 1: and Julia. But there was more times than not than
48:36
Speaker 1: we would that we would find each other just sitting
48:38
Speaker 1: there and he'd be strumming his guitar and I would
48:41
Speaker 1: just be sitting there like, well, do you want to
48:43
Speaker 1: sing a song? And so he and I actually bonded
48:46
Speaker 1: so much, and I adore him. He's so talented, so
48:49
Speaker 1: wonderful um and such an amazing guy. So never saying
48:53
Speaker 1: another Sheridan, I just love him. He seems so sweet
48:56
Speaker 1: from the show. He's definitely one of my favorite characters characters.
48:59
Speaker 1: You all right, thank you so much, Savannah gret getting
49:04
Speaker 1: to know you more. Yes, you as well, thank you
49:06
Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. Guys. Alright, Ben Tory,
49:20
Speaker 1: let's get to the other topics of the episode besides
49:23
Speaker 1: Savannah and Brandon and Julia, which did dominate the episode,
49:27
Speaker 1: but we also need to talk about the fact that
49:31
Speaker 1: the first day card went Tobecca and Danny and they
49:33
Speaker 1: had absolutely no chemistry at all, and of course we're
49:36
Speaker 1: eliminated at the end of the episode none. Poor guy
49:42
Speaker 1: when she pushed away his face at the end. It
49:48
Speaker 1: was it was just hard to watch, Tori, What did
49:50
Speaker 1: you think? Well, you think that I don't know. People
49:54
Speaker 1: are questioning like are they here for the right reasons?
49:56
Speaker 1: But it really shows you you can't think your feelings.
49:58
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of like a spect her for being
50:01
Speaker 1: like I could act like I'm gonna kiss you and
50:03
Speaker 1: really like you right now to stay, or I'm gonna
50:07
Speaker 1: be kind of honest and know that I'm just not
50:09
Speaker 1: that into you, and it's probably translated through the performance
50:12
Speaker 1: and it is what it is. Yeah, right, And I
50:15
Speaker 1: think it was obvious because those two hadn't been getting
50:17
Speaker 1: no airtime. I was like, yeah, we're going to eliminate
50:20
Speaker 1: them real quick. He's so cute though, who what you
50:23
Speaker 1: think they're cute? He's so cute. Yeah, he's very very cute,
50:28
Speaker 1: very sweet. Yeah. That's how I like to be explained.
50:33
Speaker 1: When the girl goes, Ben, you're so cute, and the
50:36
Speaker 1: girl next year goes, I mean he's He's like, yeah,
50:39
Speaker 1: he's sweet. Okay, alright. Moving on day card number two
50:45
Speaker 1: with Ryan and Natasha. I all you guys know, I
50:48
Speaker 1: love Ryan, but I don't really feel any chemistry of
50:51
Speaker 1: theirs until they're on stage. So I thought their date
50:56
Speaker 1: was just like spark free. Don't get them, don't feel
51:00
Speaker 1: any sort of like mental connection. But when they did
51:04
Speaker 1: hit the stage, they're able to like sex it up.
51:07
Speaker 1: You agree, Yeah, that performance was like captivating. Yeah, that
51:12
Speaker 1: was a good performance to really talented people there. And
51:15
Speaker 1: I agree with what the judges said that she just
51:19
Speaker 1: blew him out of the water. But the thing was,
51:22
Speaker 1: I think I think that he wasn't able to belt
51:26
Speaker 1: he he wasn't really able to show all these got there, right?
51:30
Speaker 1: Do you if you could predict this, who do you
51:33
Speaker 1: think is more and like the other person? Like, who
51:36
Speaker 1: do you think likes each other more? I think he's
51:39
Speaker 1: more into her, she's more into him. I think that
51:41
Speaker 1: he's like, Wow, I've never gotten a girl like this
51:45
Speaker 1: Vava Boom before. And then I think she's like, he's
51:48
Speaker 1: one of the most talented guys in the house and
51:50
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be paired with him. Oh, so you
51:53
Speaker 1: think it's equal. I think it might be in a
51:54
Speaker 1: way equal. I don't think either of them from watching it,
51:57
Speaker 1: I really don't think either of them would claim I'm
51:59
Speaker 1: just putting word to their mouth. But I don't think
52:01
Speaker 1: either of them would claim that they're going to have
52:03
Speaker 1: like a marriage or romantic relationship after this. I think
52:06
Speaker 1: they're like, this makes sense. We're into each other, we're
52:09
Speaker 1: good partners, we like our time together. We're both pretty talented.
52:13
Speaker 1: You're hot, I'm hot. Let's just make this thing happen. Agree. Agree?
52:18
Speaker 1: Any other standout performances in your opinions? Because I got one, Uh,
52:24
Speaker 1: Jamie and Trevor. Jamie and Trevor. That was cute, very cute.
52:28
Speaker 1: I also don't think they're powerhouses vocally, but she said
52:34
Speaker 1: that she's falling in love with him when she starts
52:36
Speaker 1: seeing him on stage. She's like, I think I love
52:39
Speaker 1: him when I see him performing on stage. Ben, I
52:42
Speaker 1: feel like you think he's a player. I mean, I
52:46
Speaker 1: just know I can't say that. As much as there,
52:50
Speaker 1: it is weird to me that we skimmed over this
52:52
Speaker 1: whole like emotional cheating things so quickly, Like I don't
52:56
Speaker 1: know how that ended. I'm still confused on where we
52:58
Speaker 1: we got there. And even if he was a player, musically,
53:04
Speaker 1: I think they did well. I mean, he has that
53:06
Speaker 1: thing on stage. I will say this Trevor, out of anybody,
53:10
Speaker 1: had the most swagger on stage. He felt like he
53:13
Speaker 1: had the most confidence. There was a moment where he
53:16
Speaker 1: was singing and he like delivered a line and like
53:20
Speaker 1: the perfect timing with a little smile, and it's like,
53:22
Speaker 1: I get it now. I had never got it until now.
53:26
Speaker 1: Player not he has something with him on stage. It
53:29
Speaker 1: makes him work. I'm gonna say, I think it's Chris
53:31
Speaker 1: and Bree. Is it that that I really think just
53:34
Speaker 1: destroyed things. Chris is so good, he's so talented, so
53:39
Speaker 1: much better than what they did on that date. I
53:41
Speaker 1: thought after their date together, I was like, oh, this
53:43
Speaker 1: is gonna be rough on stage and not at all,
53:45
Speaker 1: so much better. I agree with what the what the
53:48
Speaker 1: judges said, though it seemed like she didn't know how
53:51
Speaker 1: to play to him and play to the audience at
53:54
Speaker 1: the same time. Fair I mean, yeah, and I'm sure
53:58
Speaker 1: that comes with Pratt This right, Tori, for sure? I
54:03
Speaker 1: think that it's also I'm giggling just because I think
54:07
Speaker 1: he's so much better than her. Okay, That's what I
54:10
Speaker 1: was basically saying to So it's like it's hard to
54:15
Speaker 1: watch it because you're almost like it's like, you know,
54:20
Speaker 1: I just want him to be with an equal as
54:22
Speaker 1: far as skill goes. She's very talented. It's just like
54:27
Speaker 1: he's so amazing, He's so good. I was exactly on Bridges. Yeah.
54:33
Speaker 1: I also have a soft spot for Matt and Ruby
54:37
Speaker 1: Rudy Rudy. I love Rudy. She's so real, and they
54:41
Speaker 1: were just cute, had nice chemistry. It just felt easy
54:44
Speaker 1: breezy for me. You're right, that was a really good performance,
54:48
Speaker 1: and I loved how Matt took a step back and
54:50
Speaker 1: really let her just saying, I mean, obviously she's really good,
54:53
Speaker 1: but you could see he wasn't trying to compete. It
54:55
Speaker 1: wasn't like a Chris and bree where they weren't trying
54:57
Speaker 1: to compete, but they just couldn't sync up. Like Matt
55:00
Speaker 1: single handedly just took a step back and was like,
55:01
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna strom the guitar and you sing girl. Now.
55:04
Speaker 1: The couple that I was most surprised about their on
55:08
Speaker 1: stage chemistry was Sheridan and Julia. I thought they killed it. Yes,
55:13
Speaker 1: they sing a Backshop Boys song. Of course I'm gonna
55:16
Speaker 1: like the Backshep Boys performance. But they were so amazing
55:20
Speaker 1: and she really seemed into him, and I'm like, oh,
55:24
Speaker 1: not only is this girl singer, she also maybe an actress.
55:29
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I felt very different, really mm hmmm why.
55:34
Speaker 1: I feel like she was almost trying to prove a
55:36
Speaker 1: point so much to Savannah that she was like, I'm
55:38
Speaker 1: just gonna give it my all the starden but like
55:41
Speaker 1: she doesn't have anything to give. But it still just
55:44
Speaker 1: like it did. But I didn't think that was like
55:46
Speaker 1: a standout performance because it just felt very forced to
55:49
Speaker 1: take me. Okay, all right, any comments about are amazing
55:53
Speaker 1: judges this week? You know our friends Jojo Fletcher and
55:56
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers and Kesha and Jason Mraz. I'm I mean,
56:01
Speaker 1: I'm always a Jordan and Jojo fan. I think they're
56:04
Speaker 1: both great. I love them and I love them as
56:06
Speaker 1: a couple. They're really good on camera. Uh, they were
56:10
Speaker 1: very spot on when it comes to analyzing connection. And
56:15
Speaker 1: Jayson Murraz is one of my favorite artists of all time.
56:19
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy has serenaded me through good and bad.
56:24
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm honestly like I was, just I was
56:28
Speaker 1: a huge fan of having them on there. You know what,
56:31
Speaker 1: I made it better though? What if the Kesha and
56:34
Speaker 1: Jason Murraz did a duet to to show them how
56:36
Speaker 1: it's done. Hey, Ben, is it kind of weird that
56:42
Speaker 1: Jojo and Lauren we're in the same episode. Yeah, I
56:46
Speaker 1: was watching. I was like, oh man, this is this,
56:49
Speaker 1: this is a power play for me. I'm watching them
56:52
Speaker 1: like gosh thing and like not only am I like
56:54
Speaker 1: not fully sold out on the show yet, but I
56:56
Speaker 1: gotta watch it and see this like what a day?
57:00
Speaker 1: Um No, it's fine. I mean, I uh, what are
57:04
Speaker 1: you gonna do? It's it's where where This is part
57:07
Speaker 1: of living in this world, right, Sometimes you just gotta
57:10
Speaker 1: get back into it and see see them all over again.
57:13
Speaker 1: You guys have all found your partner in life though,
57:16
Speaker 1: so right for everyone, we're all doing good. But yes,
57:20
Speaker 1: that's a that was a that was ironic. I cannot
57:23
Speaker 1: believe that that's the way that played out. But it's
57:26
Speaker 1: pretty funny. But you know what I was actually shocked
57:28
Speaker 1: is like the Chris and Lauren thing, Like you didn't
57:30
Speaker 1: see very much of it. I'm surprised that it was
57:33
Speaker 1: so quickly, so quickly came and gone, like I thought
57:37
Speaker 1: they would be around a little bit longer. And I
57:38
Speaker 1: mean they should have like made sense for him too. Yeah,
57:42
Speaker 1: you're right, all right to finalize the episode. Uh here
57:46
Speaker 1: where the performances Matt and Ruby, Ashley, as I say,
57:51
Speaker 1: these just given an A, B, C, D E or
57:54
Speaker 1: the chemistry test. See how I added E in there.
57:57
Speaker 1: I don't even mean to, it just happened. Yeah, overall performance,
58:01
Speaker 1: chemistry and music. Uh, Matt and Ruby A to F.
58:05
Speaker 1: I think A, Hey, Brian, Chris B plus he gets
58:10
Speaker 1: an A. Becca and Danny, d WO Savannah and Brandon,
58:19
Speaker 1: Savannah and Brandon and get a B. Julia and Sheridan A,
58:26
Speaker 1: Natasha and Ryan, Jamie and Trevor. I'll go with an
58:33
Speaker 1: A minus there. Well, Uh, Ashley, obviously you've seen the episode,
58:38
Speaker 1: so this is easy for you. But Becca and Danny
58:40
Speaker 1: were sent home at the end of the episode, leaving
58:43
Speaker 1: the couples that were mentioned before outside of Beck and
58:46
Speaker 1: Danny still at the house for next week. And next
58:49
Speaker 1: week I mean, I guess, according to Savannah, is gonna
58:52
Speaker 1: be a doozy. Well, hey, we've got a couple of
58:55
Speaker 1: emails from people asking about this, and so I guess
58:59
Speaker 1: there's no better time than now. Uh. Danielle wrote us
59:04
Speaker 1: in with an email that says Ben bitches. During quarantine,
59:07
Speaker 1: I was wondering in your episodes if we could get
59:09
Speaker 1: some special quarantine edition of Ben Bitches, I think would
59:13
Speaker 1: light in the road a separation right now. Thank you
59:15
Speaker 1: all for variety, for providing some relief in this time.
59:18
Speaker 1: I do have one. Now it's gonna be twisted a
59:20
Speaker 1: little bit and moved around. It's not gonna be as
59:25
Speaker 1: angry as the others because I'm'm in a very peaceful
59:27
Speaker 1: state right now. I've done a lot of prayer, meditation,
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Speaker 1: counseling and quiet time during this time of my isolation.
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Speaker 1: Here's my problem, COVID nineteen. You have ruined something for me.
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Speaker 1: You have made me flustered, frustrating, and feeling more alone
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Speaker 1: than I ever had before. I spent most of my
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Speaker 1: life and knowing that a connection with others meant not
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Speaker 1: only emotional, spiritual, but also physical and COVID nineteen, you
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Speaker 1: have taken the physical away from my life, and I
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Speaker 1: don't like it. In fact, I'm mad, I'm angry, and
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Speaker 1: I'm bitching. I want to hug somebody, I want to
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Speaker 1: squeeze somebody. I want to look somebody out in the
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Speaker 1: eyes and tell them how much they matter to me.
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Speaker 1: And I want to get as close as humanly possible
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Speaker 1: without getting too awkward to them. I want to see
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Speaker 1: where their soul lies, and I believe it's in their heart.
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Speaker 1: I want to squeeze them tight and hold them until
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Speaker 1: they try to get away. I want to tell my
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Speaker 1: family I love them. I want to see my grandma,
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Speaker 1: give her a hug. You have lots of people you
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Speaker 1: can let that out on, though, like you can squeeze
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Speaker 1: your family and Jesse's family too, your ribs. But Ashley,
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Speaker 1: what about the grandparents? Yeah? I know that's really sad.
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Speaker 1: My Grandma's gonna be nineties seven in June, and it's like,
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Speaker 1: when do I get to see her? I feel so bad.
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Speaker 1: So here's my point to it all. I miss those
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Speaker 1: who are loved and at a distance right now. We
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Speaker 1: I know, as a people group, take it took for
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Speaker 1: granted for too long, how much we love those who
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen in a while. I'm bitching a day
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Speaker 1: at COVID Night Team because you've taken some physical intimacy
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Speaker 1: away from me and I don't like it. Well, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: that's all I got with that. I've been, Ben, I've been, Ashley.
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Speaker 1: I agreed, Ben, I would I would like a Ben
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Speaker 1: hug almost breaking my bones, Ben Hug Ashley, and I'll
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Speaker 1: be hugging you deep. Okay, bye. Follow the Benn and
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