Latest / David Pollack Primetime / Made in China
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- 0:11Speaker 1: A Chinese state visit filled with pomp and pageantry and
- 0:15Speaker 1: hollow honorarium concluded today as President Trump ended the visit
- 0:21Speaker 1: by walking Xi Jinping into the National Archives to stand
- 0:26Speaker 1: him in front of the original United States Constitution, the
- 0:29Speaker 1: most powerful autocrat on Earth, face to face with the
- 0:32Speaker 1: document that says power belongs to the people. How poetic.
- 0:37Speaker 1: For three days, Xi Jinping The president hosted Xi in
- 0:40Speaker 1: the Capitol, the first time China's leader has set foot
- 0:42Speaker 1: in America in almost three years. Trump greeted him on
- 0:46Speaker 1: the tarmac himself, gave him the tour, and Thursday night
- 0:49Speaker 1: threw a state dinner in his honor where the guest
- 0:53Speaker 1: list told you everything about who holds the cards and
- 0:55Speaker 1: what the agenda was around that table, the head of NVIDIA,
- 0:59Speaker 1: the head of Qualcomm, the head of OpenAI, the head
- 1:02Speaker 1: of J.P. Morgan. in the president's own words, the entire
- 1:05Speaker 1: tech world, the entire banking world, the most valuable companies
- 1:10Speaker 1: on the planet, American companies, in an American room at
- 1:14Speaker 1: a dinner the American president was hosting. Elon Musk was
- 1:16Speaker 1: also there, by the way. And there was a piece
- 1:18Speaker 1: of history folded into that night most people missed. The
- 1:21Speaker 1: sparkling wine poured for the toast. It came from the
- 1:25Speaker 1: same California house that filled the glasses when Richard Nixon
- 1:28Speaker 1: went to Beijing in 1972. A toast there first cracked
- 1:32Speaker 1: open the door between America and communist China. And look
- 1:35Speaker 1: at what that dinner was really about. Underneath the china
- 1:37Speaker 1: and the crystal, Artificial intelligence, the men in that room,
- 1:41Speaker 1: the ones building the machines that will define the next century,
- 1:44Speaker 1: they're American. Xi himself admitted both countries are leading in
- 1:48Speaker 1: AI and said it has to stay, in his words,
- 1:51Speaker 1: under human control. The race for the most powerful technology
- 1:56Speaker 1: in human history is a two-nation race discussed under candlelight.
- 2:03Speaker 1: And there was business done. Both sides extended their trade truce.
- 2:06Speaker 1: The ceasefire in a tariff war that had once climbed
- 2:09Speaker 1: past 100% and pushed the deadline into January. That's very
- 2:14Speaker 1: good for business. It's on the table. And by the way,
- 2:16Speaker 1: they reaffirmed China buying American soybeans, American energy, American Boeing jets,
- 2:22Speaker 1: $ 17 billion a year in American farm goods, a crackdown
- 2:26Speaker 1: on the fentanyl chemicals that have been killing Americans in
- 2:28Speaker 1: every town in this country. Rare earth minerals keep flowing.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And this is what peace through strength and mutual respect
- 2:37Speaker 1: actually looks like. Two superpowers. The two biggest economies on Earth.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And instead of a shooting war or trade war spiraling
- 2:45Speaker 1: out of control, you get a managed truce with the
- 2:50Speaker 1: American president setting the table in the American capital surrounded
- 2:54Speaker 1: by American industry. The warmth this week, all the great
- 2:59Speaker 1: friendship talk. It's not weakness, it's diplomacy. IT'S A DIPLOMACY
- 3:03Speaker 1: THAT ONLY PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN DO. NOW NONE OF IT
- 3:06Speaker 1: MEANS XI IS OUR FRIEND. HE RUNS A REGIME WHOSE
- 3:11Speaker 1: FACTORIES FLOODED THIS COUNTRY WITH FENTANYL, A REGIME THAT MENACES TAIWAN,
- 3:15Speaker 1: THAT BUILT CAMPS IN JINJANG. AND OUTSIDE THAT STATE, DINNER
- 3:20Speaker 1: PROTESTERS STOOD IN THE STREET FOR And on the hardest questions,
- 3:31Speaker 1: watch who was asking them. On Taiwan, it was Xi
- 3:34Speaker 1: who came asking to reinstate his demand that America back off,
- 3:39Speaker 1: that we oppose Taiwan independence. I doubt that's going to happen. Now,
- 3:44Speaker 1: it's not a concession he walked away with. And by
- 3:47Speaker 1: the way, on Iran, according to China's own state media,
- 3:49Speaker 1: it was Xi who raised it, asking the United States
- 3:52Speaker 1: to come back to the table with Tehran and offering
- 3:55Speaker 1: Beijing's help to get there. The rival superpower walking into
- 4:00Speaker 1: the American capital asking the American president to make a deal.
- 4:04Speaker 1: That's not the posture of a country that thinks it's winning.
- 4:08Speaker 1: And all of it reaches your kitchen table. China is
- 4:11Speaker 1: the other half of the world's economy. When these two
- 4:16Speaker 1: are firing tariffs at each other, past 100%, your prices climb.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Your retirement account shakes. And the soybeans sitting in a
- 4:24Speaker 1: silo in Iowa, well, that gets affected. American paychecks are affected.
- 4:30Speaker 1: And when the fentanyl keeps coming in, Americans die. This
- 4:32Speaker 1: was never a photo op on some far-off tarmac. It
- 4:35Speaker 1: wasn't just for ego. This was about your wallet, your family,
- 4:39Speaker 1: your kids, the future of technology. And for one week...
- 4:43Speaker 1: The leverage sat on our side of the table. So
- 4:46Speaker 1: now it's over. Xi came and left. The real question
- 4:49Speaker 1: now isn't what they had for dinner, although I am
- 4:52Speaker 1: kind of curious. It's what America actually got this week
- 4:56Speaker 1: and what is being planned next. Trump is going to
- 4:59Speaker 1: head back to China. The two are going to meet.
- 5:02Speaker 1: at the G20 Summit, so lots of talks are ongoing.
- 5:04Speaker 1: I'm sure more deals are to be had. Joining me
- 5:07Speaker 1: now to break this all down, Alan Zhang, a research
- 5:10Speaker 1: assistant at the Heritage Foundation's Asian Studies Center. Alan, thank
- 5:14Speaker 1: you so much for being here. When you strip away
- 5:17Speaker 1: all the pageantry and all the warm hugs and feelings,
- 5:21Speaker 1: what really happened this week? What did you notice?
- 5:25Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's the question that Americans who
- 5:27Speaker 2: are watching this unfold are really asking themselves, what are
- 5:30Speaker 2: we coming away with? I think by and large, the
- 5:33Speaker 2: summit was very modest, but it was still very meaningful
- 5:37Speaker 2: in the sense that both sides, we have two of
- 5:40Speaker 2: the world's largest economies speaking to each other. Yet Secretary
- 5:43Speaker 2: Rubio said that it would actually be irresponsible for us
- 5:47Speaker 2: not to be talking with the Chinese delegation. So that
- 5:49Speaker 2: is still a plus. But I think that in the
- 5:52Speaker 2: coming months, a lot of these conversations, very difficult ones,
- 5:55Speaker 2: are still going to be had. Differences are yet to
- 5:58Speaker 2: be resolved, especially as you mentioned just a few seconds ago,
- 6:02Speaker 2: those questions are over rare earths, artificial intelligence, Taiwan, and more.
- 6:07Speaker 2: So I think it's definitely a start. But at the
- 6:10Speaker 2: very least, there's some communication that's happening between Washington and Beijing.
- 6:16Speaker 1: You know, I felt the whole thing was a little weird.
- 6:18Speaker 1: to be honest, too. It was like, it wasn't the
- 6:22Speaker 1: typical state visit. You know, usually you kind of feel
- 6:25Speaker 1: that energy. It kind of seems like, okay, we're going
- 6:27Speaker 1: to make some deals. For me, at least just my
- 6:30Speaker 1: outside observation, was that Xi seemed kind of irritated this
- 6:34Speaker 1: time around. And I don't know if it's because he's
- 6:36Speaker 1: facing pressure on energy, if he knows the United States
- 6:39Speaker 1: is developing the upper hand in the Western Hemisphere. I
- 6:42Speaker 1: don't know. But for me, it just didn't seem... As
- 6:46Speaker 1: an outside observer, as warm and jovial as these state
- 6:49Speaker 1: visits usually go now, a couple are planned and it
- 6:51Speaker 1: didn't obviously end in any fireworks. It was like she
- 6:54Speaker 1: walking out or anything like like with Zelensky. But did
- 6:57Speaker 1: you get a sense that maybe this was more about
- 7:03Speaker 1: sort of an ongoing conflict, more so than a friendly visit?
- 7:07Speaker 2: I definitely think that there's some truth to that. As
- 7:09Speaker 2: you said earlier, there's a lot of difficult discussions that
- 7:13Speaker 2: are going to be had moving forward. But also, the
- 7:17Speaker 2: fact that Xi is under pressure both internationally as well
- 7:20Speaker 2: as having a lot of problems at home. The Chinese
- 7:23Speaker 2: side is coming to the negotiating table. In some ways,
- 7:27Speaker 2: through an act of desperation, there's a need to negotiate
- 7:30Speaker 2: with the American side. And the US still holds some
- 7:33Speaker 2: very powerful cards. The Chinese president was very concerned about U.S.
- 7:38Speaker 2: cutting off their access to advanced U.S. chips. And I'm
- 7:42Speaker 2: sure that's going to be a very big topic that
- 7:44Speaker 2: comes up in the future. But I certainly think you're right.
- 7:48Speaker 2: The Chinese president has a lot of concerns, and I'm
- 7:50Speaker 2: sure that in the conversations that he's had with the
- 7:52Speaker 2: president over the last couple of days, those concerns were
- 7:55Speaker 2: most certainly raised.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Yeah, and there were tough conversations too. And you're right
- 8:01Speaker 1: about the cards and the leverage that the president holds.
- 8:04Speaker 1: And I thought it was such a funny moment when
- 8:06Speaker 1: there was that first flyover at Joint Base Andrews when
- 8:10Speaker 1: the Trump, because, you know, Trump is stoic. And I
- 8:14Speaker 1: believe everything he does is intentional. I don't think he
- 8:17Speaker 1: just finds himself in situations. And he, you know, Xi
- 8:21Speaker 1: was standing there as stoically and as still as possible
- 8:24Speaker 1: when that flyover happened. He knew it was happening. So
- 8:26Speaker 1: I'm sure he prepared himself for the noise. And Trump
- 8:29Speaker 1: made it very clear to react. It was almost like, hey,
- 8:33Speaker 1: and he did the same thing to Putin. It was
- 8:34Speaker 1: almost like that's our military flying above. And he wanted
- 8:38Speaker 1: to make it clear. And that's what I felt. I
- 8:40Speaker 1: kept seeing the same thing with the Constitution. He brings
- 8:43Speaker 1: him in front of the Constitution. There was all these
- 8:45Speaker 1: little sort of jabs. And that's what I kept picking
- 8:50Speaker 1: up on. This didn't seem to me like the president
- 8:53Speaker 1: was trying to make friends at this point. It seemed
- 8:55Speaker 1: to me like he was trying to assert dominance.
- 8:59Speaker 3: Certainly.
- 9:00Speaker 2: And I think that's also what happened during the last
- 9:03Speaker 2: summit in May when Trump went over to Beijing. There
- 9:06Speaker 2: was a lot of differences that observers drew from the outside.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Even the chairs that President Xi and President Trump were
- 9:13Speaker 2: sitting on, President Trump's chair was significantly lower, probably as
- 9:17Speaker 2: a sign of being in subordination to the Chinese side.
- 9:21Speaker 2: But I also think it's very deeply symbolic of some
- 9:24Speaker 2: of the messages that are being broadcast. You have folks
- 9:27Speaker 2: that are saying that China's growing power is now on
- 9:30Speaker 2: par with the U.S. And part of that stoicism that
- 9:33Speaker 2: you just mentioned is likely a reflection that Xi feels
- 9:36Speaker 2: that he's in a much stronger position than, say, when
- 9:39Speaker 2: he first came to power in 2012. The Chinese economy
- 9:42Speaker 2: has massively ballooned. Tech companies are doing quite well in China.
- 9:48Speaker 2: And so he probably sees himself as coming to the U.S.
- 9:50Speaker 2: to the negotiating table from a position of strength. And
- 9:54Speaker 2: that was likely the message that he wanted to convey
- 9:57Speaker 2: through his visit here.
- 9:59Speaker 1: It was very interesting to see the two leaders. Certainly.
- 10:02Speaker 1: And honestly, I look at this as being one of
- 10:04Speaker 1: the most high stakes diplomatic visits probably we've had in
- 10:08Speaker 1: this term just because of what's on the table. I mean,
- 10:11Speaker 1: China is always I never really understood branding people our
- 10:14Speaker 1: biggest enemy when we do things together. You know, we
- 10:17Speaker 1: trade with each other. We're in space with Russia. But
- 10:20Speaker 1: all these people are our enemies. So I don't like
- 10:22Speaker 1: what we just call people enemies. But certainly they are
- 10:25Speaker 1: viewed as an adversary in a lot of ways with China.
- 10:27Speaker 1: And so what happens in that relationship will define, I think,
- 10:31Speaker 1: the economic future and potentially the military future If they
- 10:36Speaker 1: decide to become aggressive with Taiwan, there's a lot, a
- 10:40Speaker 1: lot that could happen over the next couple of years.
- 10:42Speaker 1: And we're going to watch. Look, Trump's going back to China.
- 10:45Speaker 1: They're meeting again at G20. We'll see if deals can
- 10:47Speaker 1: be made. It's going to be a very interesting couple
- 10:50Speaker 1: of years. And this visit was definitely eye-opening. I really
- 10:53Speaker 1: appreciate you coming and offering your insights. Look forward to
- 10:55Speaker 1: having you back as this relationship develops.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Still ahead tonight, a drill snaps on something buried inside
- 11:05Speaker 1: a mountain in Turkey, and the team believes it might
- 11:09Speaker 1: be Noah's Ark. Seriously. Then nine days out from Brazil's election,
- 11:15Speaker 1: the president moves to remove him from the ballot again.
- 11:21Speaker 1: And Diesel just hit six and a half bucks a gallon.
- 11:24Speaker 1: But I'm going to show you who's really behind it.
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- 12:14Speaker 1: Genesis tells it in a few sparse verses, and it's
- 12:17Speaker 1: one of the most powerful stories ever written. The earth
- 12:20Speaker 1: had gone corrupt and violent beyond saving, and God resolved
- 12:24Speaker 1: to wash it clean. But there was one righteous man, Noah.
- 12:28Speaker 1: God told him what was coming and told him to
- 12:31Speaker 1: build a boat 300 cubits long, gopher wood sealed inside
- 12:37Speaker 1: and out with pitch. Bring your family aboard, God said.
- 12:41Speaker 1: And the animals, two of everything, And wait. Then the
- 12:45Speaker 1: rain came 40 days and 40 nights until the water
- 12:48Speaker 1: rose over the tops of the mountains and everything living
- 12:52Speaker 1: outside that boat was gone. And the ark floated alone
- 12:55Speaker 1: on a drowned and silent world. And when the waters
- 12:59Speaker 1: finally began to fall, Noah sent out a raven and
- 13:01Speaker 1: then a dove. And the dove came back with a
- 13:04Speaker 1: fresh olive leaf in its beak. Somewhere out there, dry
- 13:07Speaker 1: land had returned. The boat came to rest, in the
- 13:10Speaker 1: words of Genesis, on the mountains of Ararat, and a
- 13:14Speaker 1: god set a rainbow in the sky as a promise
- 13:17Speaker 1: to never flood the earth again. People have searched for
- 13:21Speaker 1: that boat ever since, and not for centuries, for thousands
- 13:26Speaker 1: of years they've been searching, expedition after expedition, up the
- 13:29Speaker 1: wrong slopes, into the eyes, chasing a story most of
- 13:33Speaker 1: the modern world was taught to file away as fable,
- 13:36Speaker 1: and tonight, A scientific team believes it may finally be
- 13:42Speaker 1: standing on top of it because this week it broke
- 13:46Speaker 1: a drill bit trying to prove it. About 18 miles
- 13:52Speaker 1: from the peak of Mount Ararat, in the foothills of
- 13:56Speaker 1: eastern Turkey, there's a ridge shaped exactly like a ship,
- 14:00Speaker 1: 515 feet long, It's called the Durupinar Formation after the
- 14:07Speaker 1: Turkish army captain who first spotted it in an aerial
- 14:11Speaker 1: photo back in 1959. For 60 years, people have argued
- 14:15Speaker 1: over it. A buried vessel or just a trick of
- 14:18Speaker 1: rock and mud? And now, for the first time, A
- 14:22Speaker 1: permitted team, archaeologists, geologists, soil scientists, under a Turkish university's oversight,
- 14:29Speaker 1: is drilling into that mountain to find out what it is.
- 14:32Speaker 1: And this week, four to five meters down, their drill
- 14:36Speaker 1: struck a layer the team says was harder than limestone,
- 14:39Speaker 1: hard enough to snap the bit clean off. They believe
- 14:43Speaker 1: it may be petrified wood, mineralized, turned to stone over
- 14:47Speaker 1: thousands of years, and on its way to a lab
- 14:51Speaker 1: with results expected this winter. Around it, they've pulled up
- 14:55Speaker 1: organic rich material and found hollow cavities inside the ridge,
- 14:59Speaker 1: one of them holding water. They drilled control holes into
- 15:03Speaker 1: the ground, opened the outside of the formation to compare,
- 15:07Speaker 1: and they say what's inside the ridge doesn't match the
- 15:10Speaker 1: plain dirt around it. No solid bedrock, none of the
- 15:13Speaker 1: limestone you'd expect if this were just a natural hill.
- 15:16Speaker 1: I'll start with the size, 515 feet, almost exactly 300 cubits.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Genesis gives for the arc. Ground-penetrating radar, the team says,
- 15:26Speaker 1: shows three distinct layers stacked inside the ridge, the way
- 15:30Speaker 1: the text describes a lower deck, a second and a third,
- 15:33Speaker 1: straight lines and long corridor-shaped hollows where nature doesn't tend
- 15:37Speaker 1: to draw them, copper-aged pottery in the surrounding soil, and
- 15:42Speaker 1: the location... The mountains of error at exactly where the
- 15:45Speaker 1: scripture says the boat came to rest. Plenty of scientists
- 15:49Speaker 1: still say it's just a natural formation and the lab
- 15:52Speaker 1: work will test that honestly. But if those cores come
- 15:56Speaker 1: back as timber of a wooden ship that's been buried
- 15:58Speaker 1: in that mountain for thousands of years, well, then the
- 16:02Speaker 1: oldest story in the book stops just being a story.
- 16:06Speaker 1: The team says they're going back in drones into cavities,
- 16:10Speaker 1: more cores, a formal scientific study. statement once the results
- 16:13Speaker 1: are in. For tonight, a broken drill bit, a layer
- 16:17Speaker 1: harder than stone, and a question people have been asking
- 16:20Speaker 1: for thousands of years. Joining me now is Andrew Jones,
- 16:24Speaker 1: founder of NOAA ARC scans and vice president of the
- 16:28Speaker 1: NOAA's ARC research project, who spent nearly 30 years chasing
- 16:33Speaker 1: this ship. Andrew, thank you so much for being here.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Have you found NOAA's ARC?
- 16:40Speaker 3: I believe so.
- 16:41Speaker 5: And I believe the lines of evidence points to it.
- 16:44Speaker 5: But that's not going to convince everyone just because I've
- 16:46Speaker 5: been studying this for a long time. And so that's
- 16:49Speaker 5: why we're pursuing the most thorough investigation with a multinational
- 16:53Speaker 5: team of experts. And this is the first time this
- 16:56Speaker 5: summer this has ever been done on the site.
- 16:59Speaker 1: So tell me, I mean, obviously, we have technology now.
- 17:02Speaker 1: And as we go further into the future, the technology
- 17:04Speaker 1: just increases. And Now, you've used this drill bit, and
- 17:07Speaker 1: this is the best piece of evidence so far. You've
- 17:10Speaker 1: drilled down into the mountain, essentially. So explain why the
- 17:15Speaker 1: fracture of this drill bit is so significant.
- 17:19Speaker 5: Well, if you look at the site, everyone in the
- 17:21Speaker 5: past has been doing scans, including us, taking surface samples.
- 17:26Speaker 5: and trying to debate, trying to understand what's going on
- 17:29Speaker 5: below the surface. This is the first time we've actually
- 17:32Speaker 5: been inside the formation. We have 12 holes so far
- 17:35Speaker 5: drilled into the sides or the inside of the boat.
- 17:39Speaker 5: We have four outside to compare. We've taken many more
- 17:42Speaker 5: soil samples by hand. And now we have a machine
- 17:46Speaker 5: actually going into the site where everyone's been telling us
- 17:49Speaker 5: what they think it is. They say it's a limestone block,
- 17:51Speaker 5: a sincline, a sedimentary rock. But now we have a
- 17:54Speaker 5: drill pit that can go through limestone quite easily. And
- 17:59Speaker 5: it has on our trip. And it has gone through
- 18:01Speaker 5: the soil, different layers of types of soils. And we
- 18:04Speaker 5: pulled out all these samples. Over 300 now have been
- 18:07Speaker 5: sent to a lab. But when it got to hole
- 18:10Speaker 5: number four, we're going down, I think it was the
- 18:12Speaker 5: four or five meter level. And then that's where the actual,
- 18:16Speaker 5: they have this bit that includes and opens up and
- 18:19Speaker 5: you can pull out the soil samples about 50 centimeters long.
- 18:23Speaker 5: And that whole thing snapped off of the rest of
- 18:25Speaker 5: the machine down in the hole. And the company owner,
- 18:28Speaker 5: when he came up and told us that, we thought,
- 18:31Speaker 5: you know, okay, we can pull the bit out and
- 18:33Speaker 5: then continue with, we have three other ones. But he said, no,
- 18:36Speaker 5: it actually fell down the hole and there's no way
- 18:38Speaker 5: to pull it out. It's about 15 feet down and
- 18:42Speaker 5: we have to use another machine. He said, maybe next
- 18:45Speaker 5: summer we get a larger diameter machine that can drill
- 18:47Speaker 5: around it.
- 18:48Speaker 1: And pull it out.
- 18:49Speaker 5: And so now we're wondering, well, what could be harder
- 18:53Speaker 5: than limestone and the other rocks we've been drilling through
- 18:55Speaker 5: at different locations inside and outside that this time actually
- 18:59Speaker 5: broke the drill? And so that's a big mystery right now.
- 19:03Speaker 5: We really do believe, though, from all the different lines
- 19:05Speaker 5: of evidence, that this is the decayed wooden vessel there.
- 19:08Speaker 5: And because of the size and location, there's only one
- 19:11Speaker 5: vessel that could it be.
- 19:12Speaker 1: That's the Ark of Noah. So as far as the
- 19:16Speaker 1: reports of there being multiple chambers and levels, have your
- 19:21Speaker 1: sonar picked that up, the water that's under there? I mean,
- 19:23Speaker 1: what have you also visualized there with the science and
- 19:27Speaker 1: technology that goes beyond just the striking something hard with
- 19:30Speaker 1: the bit?
- 19:32Speaker 5: Yeah, so we, for example, two years ago, we took
- 19:36Speaker 5: 88 random soil samples at 22 locations inside and out
- 19:40Speaker 5: to compare because the grass was yellow inside the site.
- 19:44Speaker 5: And the chemistry showed us that this was three times
- 19:47Speaker 5: more organic matter, 38% more potassium, and eight times difference
- 19:52Speaker 5: on the pH scale. So here we had real hard
- 19:54Speaker 5: science that the soil that forms the shape of Noah's
- 19:57Speaker 5: Ark was actually different soil. And the difference is you
- 20:01Speaker 5: can account for a wooden ship or a wooden vessel
- 20:04Speaker 5: of some type decaying there and producing that type of results.
- 20:08Speaker 5: When we started scanning this ship this summer, a month ago,
- 20:10Speaker 5: we brought in Dr. Kostro Bukhtar. He has companies based
- 20:14Speaker 5: out of Southern California. He works mainly with the U.S.
- 20:17Speaker 5: military in scanning underground features, discovering hidden tunnels on the
- 20:23Speaker 5: Mexican-American border, And he also helped design some of the Moab,
- 20:31Speaker 5: the mother of all bombs for the U.S.
- 20:34Speaker 6: Military.
- 20:34Speaker 5: So this guy has quite a scientific mind. Well, he
- 20:37Speaker 5: invented a radar that can peer deep below the surface,
- 20:41Speaker 5: much deeper than anyone has ever scanned the site. We
- 20:44Speaker 5: did scans in 2019, it went down 40 meters, 13 feet.
- 20:48Speaker 5: This time with his radar, we're going down almost 95
- 20:51Speaker 5: meters or over 300 feet in some locations. And again,
- 20:55Speaker 5: it's showing, this was before we drilled, it's showing that
- 20:58Speaker 5: the site itself is made up of dirt, not solid rock,
- 21:02Speaker 5: but his radar is also showing at different levels, these
- 21:05Speaker 5: right angles, these corridors and layers showing And he said
- 21:10Speaker 5: that the material that these, he calls them anomalies, that
- 21:13Speaker 5: these things make up, they're all the same material. It's
- 21:16Speaker 5: not like one is limestone rock and another one is
- 21:19Speaker 5: basalt rock. He said, no, they're all the same material.
- 21:22Speaker 5: And he has masked out of his results the surrounding terrain.
- 21:26Speaker 5: He said, this is not natural dirt in the area.
- 21:28Speaker 5: He said he has masked that out of the results
- 21:31Speaker 5: and now these anomalies are appearing. And he said in
- 21:34Speaker 5: his 40 years, he has not seen something like this.
- 21:37Speaker 5: We'll have more about him later because he's still analyzing.
- 21:40Speaker 5: He's gotten through over 20% of his data and he
- 21:43Speaker 5: still has to do the final report. But the initial
- 21:46Speaker 5: information he's giving us and some of the photos of
- 21:48Speaker 5: the scans, we're seeing these tunnels underground.
- 21:52Speaker 3: And so then.
- 21:53Speaker 5: This month, no, that was last month. This month we
- 21:55Speaker 5: brought in the core machine that was never done before
- 21:59Speaker 5: this extensively and this deep. We've gone down 60 feet
- 22:02Speaker 5: in one place. Other places, you're right. We hit a
- 22:06Speaker 5: water-filled void that we could barely put a camera in
- 22:09Speaker 5: because it was mud and water.
- 22:11Speaker 1: But we took samples.
- 22:12Speaker 5: Every time we do a core drill, we're taking samples
- 22:15Speaker 5: at certain depths, preserving it, shipping it off to the labs.
- 22:19Speaker 5: because we want to see what's going on below the
- 22:21Speaker 5: surface here. Is there any evidence that shows that this
- 22:24Speaker 5: is a decayed buried ship, just like our 2024 soil
- 22:27Speaker 5: test showed that there's three times.
- 22:29Speaker 1: More organic matter.
- 22:31Speaker 5: So right now we're in the process of gathering that
- 22:34Speaker 5: the field data, and we're going to have it all
- 22:36Speaker 5: processed this winter with hopefully a later late spring, like
- 22:40Speaker 5: April or may a final report to tell the world.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, I think, The Earth probably hasn't needed
- 22:49Speaker 1: a discovery like this more than it needs it right now.
- 22:52Speaker 1: If you found, in fact, found Noah's Ark, what that
- 22:55Speaker 1: would mean to humanity. I can't wait for the updates.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Please keep us posted. And you better come right back
- 23:01Speaker 1: here with those results and let this audience know what
- 23:04Speaker 1: you found. Thank you so much for being here. Thank
- 23:06Speaker 1: you for this research. And thank you for bringing me
- 23:08Speaker 1: this story. Thank you for having me.
- 23:10Speaker 5: And, yes, I'll be happy to share the updates with you.
- 23:12Speaker 1: It'll be an honor. Thank you. Coming up, a president
- 23:16Speaker 1: who's losing goes to court to remove his political opponent
- 23:21Speaker 1: who happens to be beating him. Brazil's election nine days away,
- 23:26Speaker 1: and it seems like the fix might already be in.
- 23:29Speaker 1: More on that next.
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- 24:14Speaker 1: EARLIER IN THE WEEK, WE TALKED ABOUT POLY MARKET AND
- 24:17Speaker 1: BETTING MARKETS BEING BANNED IN BRAZIL BECAUSE LULA DIDN'T LIKE
- 24:21Speaker 1: WHAT THOSE RESULTS WERE SHOWING. AND NOW TONIGHT, NEW CONCERNING
- 24:25Speaker 1: DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION THAT'S COMING UP IN JUST
- 24:30Speaker 1: NINE DAYS. THIS WEEK, AFTER POLLING SHOWED NOT JUST TIGHTENING,
- 24:36Speaker 1: BUT FLAVIO BOLSONERO AHEAD, ESPECIALLY IN THE BETTING MARKETS BY
- 24:39Speaker 1: ALMOST 10 POINTS. President Lula da Silva's party rushed into
- 24:44Speaker 1: court and asked a judge to strike him from the ballot.
- 24:50Speaker 1: It's Lula's typical playbook. Can't beat him? Remove him. And
- 24:56Speaker 1: look at where the race actually stands. Six weeks ago,
- 25:00Speaker 1: the Brazilian president was up five points. Tonight, it's a
- 25:04Speaker 1: dead heat. Flavio Bolsonaro, the senator carrying his father's movement,
- 25:09Speaker 1: is tied with the president. or even a point ahead,
- 25:13Speaker 1: depending on which poll you read. And as we discussed
- 25:16Speaker 1: earlier in the week, these betting markets, all their money
- 25:19Speaker 1: is on Bolsonaro. 60% to Lula's 40. A president who
- 25:24Speaker 1: was cruising in August is, by every honest measure, in
- 25:29Speaker 1: the fight of his life. And so, on September 23rd,
- 25:33Speaker 1: Lula's Workers' Party made two moves at Brazil's Supreme Court,
- 25:39Speaker 1: They asked for a federal police investigation, and at the
- 25:43Speaker 1: electoral court, Lula's alliance asked the judges to annul Flavio
- 25:48Speaker 1: Bolsonaro's candidacy outright and bar Flavio and his brother Eduardo
- 25:55Speaker 1: from holding any office for eight years. For the 80-year-old Lula,
- 26:00Speaker 1: how convenient, right? The charge? that in the days before
- 26:05Speaker 1: the filing, accounts based outside Brazil ran paid posts praising
- 26:09Speaker 1: Bolsonaro without saying who paid for them. Illegal foreign money,
- 26:13Speaker 1: they claim, tied to an American conservative network, and they
- 26:17Speaker 1: even pointed to Bolsonaro's lead on polymarket betting sites as
- 26:21Speaker 1: proof he was being propped up from abroad. But get this.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Lula's own Workers' Party admitted on the record that it
- 26:29Speaker 1: has no proof any money ever reached the campaign. The U.S.
- 26:32Speaker 1: State Department flatly said they had nothing to do with it.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Of course, the Bolsonaros, they deny it all. So strip
- 26:39Speaker 1: it down. Sitting president, tied or trailing 11 days out,
- 26:44Speaker 1: asking a court to remove the man that looks like
- 26:46Speaker 1: he's going to beat him over a claim his own
- 26:49Speaker 1: party concedes it can't prove. And this isn't the first
- 26:53Speaker 1: time these courts have been aimed at this family. CARAVOSO NERO,
- 26:57Speaker 1: THE FRONTRUNNER'S FATHER, IS ALREADY BARRED FROM RUNNING AND ALREADY
- 27:01Speaker 1: CONVICTED IN A PROSECUTION HIS SUPPORTERS CALL POLITICAL. RUN THROUGH
- 27:06Speaker 1: THE SAME JUDICIAL MACHINE NOW WITH THE SUN SURGING, LULA
- 27:10Speaker 1: IS RUNNING THE SAME PLAY. AND THIS MATTERS TO YOU
- 27:15Speaker 1: MORE THAN YOU MIGHT REALIZE. Brazil is the largest economy
- 27:20Speaker 1: in Latin America, a country Lula has steered towards China
- 27:24Speaker 1: and the BRICS bloc and away from the U.S. A
- 27:26Speaker 1: free election could turn that around, which may be exactly
- 27:31Speaker 1: what he's afraid of. Which leaves two questions hanging over
- 27:34Speaker 1: October 4th. That's when the election's held there. Will Brazilians
- 27:38Speaker 1: get a clean, fair, and free election? Or will a
- 27:42Speaker 1: court settle this race before a single vote can be counted?
- 27:46Speaker 1: JOINING ME NOW IS EDUARDO BOLSONERO, FORMER BRAZILIAN CONGRESSMAN, FLAVIO'S BROTHER,
- 27:52Speaker 1: AND ONE OF THE MEN LULA IS NOW TRYING TO
- 27:54Speaker 1: BAR FROM OFFICE FOR EIGHT YEARS. EDUARDO, THANK YOU FOR
- 27:58Speaker 1: BEING HERE AGAIN. TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN BRAZIL.
- 28:02Speaker 1: WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. WHAT'S GOING ON NOW?
- 28:07Speaker 3: IT'S THE LAWFARE.
- 28:08Speaker 7: THEY LEARNED THE U.S., BUT THEY HAVE MORE POWER IN
- 28:10Speaker 7: THE SUPREME COURT OF BRAZIL. SO JUST YESTERDAY, DAVE, THINGS
- 28:14Speaker 7: GOT EVEN WORSE BECAUSE LULA asked the Supreme Court, look,
- 28:18Speaker 7: not the Electoral Court, she should go to the Electoral Court,
- 28:22Speaker 7: bring the demands about the election, but they didn't go
- 28:25Speaker 7: to the Supreme Court, straight to a justice that Lula
- 28:30Speaker 7: appointed to the court, asking them to investigate us, saying
- 28:36Speaker 7: that there.
- 28:36Speaker 3: Is a coup d'etat going on in Brazil, again.
- 28:40Speaker 7: It was not enough to convict my father for 27
- 28:42Speaker 7: years in jail because I attempted coup d'etat in a moment.
- 28:45Speaker 3: That my father was no longer the president anymore of Brazil.
- 28:48Speaker 7: And he was in Orlando in January 8, 2023.
- 28:52Speaker 3: But now they are trying to create a narrative saying
- 28:55Speaker 3: that there is a U.S.
- 28:57Speaker 7: Interference in the Brazilian elections, but they have no proof
- 29:01Speaker 7: about it. And they forget, for sure, it's convenient for them,
- 29:06Speaker 7: that Biden administration sent hundreds of millions of dollars during
- 29:11Speaker 7: my father's administration with the label to fight misinformation. They
- 29:18Speaker 7: forget conveniently that one year before our election in 2022,
- 29:24Speaker 7: by the administration sent to Brazil, William Burns, the head
- 29:27Speaker 7: of CIA, Victoria Nuland, the defense, the secretary of defense,
- 29:33Speaker 7: Lloyd Austin, and also NSA, Jake Sullivan.
- 29:36Speaker 3: For what?
- 29:37Speaker 7: To fret the autonomous Brazil saying that if they do
- 29:41Speaker 7: not recognize the results of the elections, doesn't matter what
- 29:44Speaker 7: it is, doesn't matter if we have a fraud or not,
- 29:46Speaker 7: they will sanction the authorities of Brazil and also the
- 29:50Speaker 7: country in Brazil. They said that this is clean, this
- 29:54Speaker 7: is okay. And now, just because Flavio is the front
- 29:58Speaker 7: leader of of all of the pools and even polling market.
- 30:02Speaker 7: Now they are using everything that they can against us.
- 30:05Speaker 7: But you have to understand before finish this answer, David.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Is that the game is not if they are going
- 30:12Speaker 3: to be in the power or not.
- 30:14Speaker 7: The thing is, if the regime that includes not only Lula,
- 30:18Speaker 7: his son that is deep in another corruption scandal that
- 30:21Speaker 7: stole billions of dollars from the retired people of Brazil,
- 30:24Speaker 7: the Supreme Court's justice that are also deep in another
- 30:28Speaker 7: huge corruption scandal.
- 30:30Speaker 3: If they can go to jail or not. So, thinking
- 30:33Speaker 3: with their heads, for sure.
- 30:36Speaker 7: They will do everything possible to avoid Flavio to be elected.
- 30:40Speaker 1: You know, and it is such an important parallel that
- 30:43Speaker 1: you drew, talking about the Biden administration, Lloyd Austin, and
- 30:47Speaker 1: people like that, because We have seen this in the
- 30:50Speaker 1: United States, the same thing. THE POLLING YOU MENTIONED IS
- 30:53Speaker 1: CREATING A NARRATIVE THAT FLAVIO IS GOING TO WIN. AND
- 30:56Speaker 1: IF THEY TRY TO DENY THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION, WELL,
- 30:58Speaker 1: THE POLLING IS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT SOMETHING FUNNY HAPPENED.
- 31:02Speaker 1: WE SAW THIS EXACT SAME PLAY COME OUT IN THE
- 31:05Speaker 1: UNITED STATES, RIGHT? YOU MENTIONED U.S. FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN BRAZIL.
- 31:09Speaker 1: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CLAIMING. YOU SAW THE LEFT SAY IT
- 31:12Speaker 1: WAS RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 ELECTION THAT ALLOWED TRUMP
- 31:15Speaker 1: TO BE ELECTED. IN OPERATION ROUND RIVER, SUGGESTING WE WERE
- 31:22Speaker 1: CONDUITS OF RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION. WE'VE SEEN THE SAME PLAYBOOK. THE
- 31:26Speaker 1: DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT TRUMP WON. IN BRAZIL, LULA WAS
- 31:30Speaker 1: ALLOWED TO KEEP POWER. AND NOW THAT FLAVIO IS ONCE
- 31:34Speaker 1: AGAIN GOING AFTER LULA, THE BOLSONARO IS GOING AGAINST LULA.
- 31:38Speaker 1: IF LULA IS ALLOWED, IF FLAVIO WINS, AND IT LOOKS
- 31:42Speaker 1: LIKE HE WILL, If Lula is allowed to remain in power,
- 31:45Speaker 1: use this narrative of foreign interference and basically invalidate and
- 31:50Speaker 1: imprison his political enemies, that is going to embolden the
- 31:54Speaker 1: very people in the United States who did the very
- 31:57Speaker 1: same thing here. And why do they want Lula? And
- 31:59Speaker 1: why did the Biden administration want to support Lula? Because
- 32:02Speaker 1: of the socialist ties. And what has happened since Biden?
- 32:05Speaker 1: The socialist countries of Central and South America are falling
- 32:08Speaker 1: one by one by one. Brazil is the biggest prize.
- 32:11Speaker 1: If a Trump-allied government can win in Brazil, the West
- 32:16Speaker 1: is going to be conservative. If Lula is allowed to
- 32:18Speaker 1: hold that biggest country in South America, the liberals have
- 32:22Speaker 1: a stronghold. The socialists have a stronghold. That's why this
- 32:25Speaker 1: is so important, right?
- 32:26Speaker 3: Sure.
- 32:28Speaker 7: The left-wing, the radical left-wing movements in Latin America, they
- 32:31Speaker 7: are going down, not because of interference of the United States,
- 32:34Speaker 7: but exactly the opposite, because the U.S.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Is not interfering anymore. It's not sending any more money.
- 32:39Speaker 7: From USAID or providing some logistical and some other support.
- 32:44Speaker 7: And I have to remind you here, David, that in U.S.,
- 32:48Speaker 7: Trump got elected. There were a debate about he should
- 32:51Speaker 7: go to jail or not for one or two days
- 32:53Speaker 7: before the inauguration.
- 32:54Speaker 3: I still remember that.
- 32:56Speaker 7: But take a remarkable that in Romania, East Europe, in
- 33:00Speaker 7: the country of Romania, the Supreme Court canceled an election
- 33:05Speaker 7: that was won by a right-wing politician, George Sko, claiming
- 33:10Speaker 7: that there was Russian interference.
- 33:13Speaker 3: And then they did another.
- 33:14Speaker 7: Elections where the left won and the right-wing candidate, Simeon,
- 33:20Speaker 7: lost for this election.
- 33:23Speaker 3: So.
- 33:24Speaker 7: In Brazil, they think they can do the same plain
- 33:26Speaker 7: book that they did in Romania. And by the way,
- 33:29Speaker 7: as we are talking about the relationships about Brazil and
- 33:31Speaker 7: the U.S.
- 33:32Speaker 3: And the lawfare, behind the scenes, you.
- 33:34Speaker 7: Have even some articles in the Brazilian press saying that
- 33:37Speaker 7: the justice of the Supreme Court, did as fast as
- 33:41Speaker 7: possible the process, the trial against my father so he
- 33:45Speaker 7: could be convicted.
- 33:46Speaker 3: Before the elections.
- 33:48Speaker 7: They said, we are not going to do the same
- 33:51Speaker 7: mistake that they did in the U.S., allowing Trump to run.
- 33:54Speaker 3: It's for sure. That's why my father is in prison.
- 33:57Speaker 7: If nowadays my brother is running, is the front leader
- 34:00Speaker 7: in polling market and all of the main polls of Brazil,
- 34:03Speaker 7: it's because my father is arrested. If my father was
- 34:07Speaker 7: free and able to run for president, this would be
- 34:11Speaker 7: a piece of cake.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it is such an interesting story to watch.
- 34:18Speaker 1: And we're going to follow this very, very closely. Just
- 34:20Speaker 1: a few days left before the election. We're going to
- 34:23Speaker 1: see what's going to happen. Eduardo, thank you so much
- 34:25Speaker 1: for being here. Thank you for fighting for the cause
- 34:27Speaker 1: of freedom. And I look forward to talking to you
- 34:28Speaker 1: again real soon, my friend.
- 34:30Speaker 7: Thank you, my friend. God bless America and God bless Brazil.
- 34:33Speaker 7: We need to follow the Brazilian elections. It's the most
- 34:36Speaker 7: important election in the Western Hemisphere this year.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Completely agree, my friend. Talk soon. Well, coming up, diesel
- 34:43Speaker 1: at $ 6. 53 a gallon. An all-time record. And before you
- 34:49Speaker 1: go blaming Trump, the reason for those prices is not
- 34:53Speaker 1: what you think. We have an explanation coming up and later.
- 34:57Speaker 1: It's Fired Up Fridays. Chad Caton takes on the wildest
- 35:00Speaker 1: stories of the week. And you know he does not
- 35:04Speaker 1: hold back. You're not going to want to miss it.
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- 35:42Speaker 8: $ 6. 53 a gallon.
- 35:53Speaker 1: That is the national average for diesel tonight. It's a record. $ 2. 78
- 36:01Speaker 1: higher than before the war started in Iran. So, of course,
- 36:06Speaker 1: everybody's assuming that it has everything to do with Iran.
- 36:10Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Whether or not you drive a
- 36:12Speaker 1: vehicle that uses diesel, this number affects you one way
- 36:15Speaker 1: or the other. Diesel is the fuel that moves this country.
- 36:18Speaker 1: The trucks, the trains, the tractors, the ships. Every gallon
- 36:22Speaker 1: of it climbs and climbs into your food shelf at
- 36:24Speaker 1: the store, the package on your porch, the harvest coming
- 36:28Speaker 1: off the farm. Diesel goes up, everything goes up behind it.
- 36:30Speaker 1: That is one of the reasons why we've had an
- 36:32Speaker 1: interest rate increase, because of the risk of the inflation
- 36:35Speaker 1: due to diesel prices. And while Democrats looking to take
- 36:39Speaker 1: advantage of the high fuel prices heading into the midterms
- 36:41Speaker 1: would love you to believe that this is Trump's fault,
- 36:45Speaker 1: it's because of the war in Iran, there's more to
- 36:48Speaker 1: this story than what hits the headlines on your homepage.
- 36:52Speaker 1: The truth is this, it's not a lack of oil.
- 36:54Speaker 1: It's not the Strait of Hormuz. It's a lack of refineries.
- 37:00Speaker 1: And yes, two wars have knocked out a share of
- 37:04Speaker 1: the globe's refining capacity. Most of it, though, in the
- 37:08Speaker 1: Russia-Ukraine conflict. In Ukraine, drone strikes have hammered Russia's refineries,
- 37:13Speaker 1: and Russia answered by banning its own diesel exports, yanking
- 37:16Speaker 1: millions of barrels of it off the world market. The
- 37:19Speaker 1: war with Iran, really, its refining went dark, but that
- 37:24Speaker 1: impacts way less people than people believe. So, refineries. That
- 37:30Speaker 1: is why you're at $ 6 a pump, or $ 6 a
- 37:33Speaker 1: gallon at the pump. It's not a barrel shortage. It's
- 37:37Speaker 1: a refining shortage. And the president is working rapidly to
- 37:42Speaker 1: fix that by putting every option on the table to
- 37:45Speaker 1: get that number down, including a simple America First idea
- 37:50Speaker 1: to keep American fuel here for Americans until the world
- 37:54Speaker 1: market settles. Treasury is RUNNING THE NUMBERS ON IT RIGHT NOW,
- 37:57Speaker 1: AND THE SECOND WASHINGTON SIGNALED HE MIGHT ACTUALLY HOLD OUR
- 38:01Speaker 1: DIESEL HERE FOR AMERICANS, THE MARKET, THE FUTURES THAT SET
- 38:04Speaker 1: THE PRICE YOU EVENTUALLY PAY, DROP MORE THAN 6% IN
- 38:07Speaker 1: A SINGLE DAY. NO SINGLE MOVE CAN FIX A GLOBAL
- 38:11Speaker 1: SHOCK OVERNIGHT. TALK ABOUT THAT ROCKET AND A FEATHER EFFECT
- 38:14Speaker 1: WITH PRICING. Russia's export ban is set to lapse at
- 38:18Speaker 1: the end of the month, and as refineries start coming
- 38:21Speaker 1: back online and these wars wind down, the pressure will
- 38:25Speaker 1: come off. But the permanent answer, the one Trump has
- 38:28Speaker 1: been building towards since day one, American energy dominance. Produce
- 38:33Speaker 1: more here and refine more here. Stop depending on other
- 38:38Speaker 1: people's oil, other people's refineries, and other people's wars. You
- 38:42Speaker 1: don't get held hostage by a market you dominate. That's
- 38:46Speaker 1: the long game. The short game, it's a family staring
- 38:49Speaker 1: at their receipt 90 cents higher than it was a
- 38:51Speaker 1: month ago, wondering when it breaks. And tonight, that fight
- 38:55Speaker 1: is being waged in two places, the White House and
- 38:58Speaker 1: the American oil patch. Joining me now is Claire Chase,
- 39:01Speaker 1: an oil and gas executive out of New Mexico's Permian Basin,
- 39:05Speaker 1: who knows this business from the wellhead up. Claire, thank
- 39:09Speaker 1: you so much for being here. What is going to
- 39:12Speaker 1: be the answer to bringing down diesel prices? Is refinery
- 39:18Speaker 1: the secret until, and of course, obviously, ending wars, so
- 39:21Speaker 1: until the refineries come back online, right?
- 39:24Speaker 9: I mean, David, first of all, thank you for having
- 39:26Speaker 9: me on. But also, I think you hit the nail
- 39:28Speaker 9: on the head when you talk about the shortage of
- 39:31Speaker 9: refining capacity. So President Trump has been very good to
- 39:34Speaker 9: oil and gas producers by making sure that we have
- 39:37Speaker 9: access to the leases that we need to get the
- 39:39Speaker 9: product out of the ground. He's been trying to help
- 39:42Speaker 9: us with permit reform. But when it comes to refineries,
- 39:45Speaker 9: he doesn't have that same luxury because there's 20 to
- 39:47Speaker 9: 30 years of of prohibitive environmental regulations that have made
- 39:53Speaker 9: it almost impossible for us to bring new capacity online.
- 39:55Speaker 9: And I think that's what you see is that now
- 39:58Speaker 9: that we're able to get more product out of the ground,
- 40:00Speaker 9: but we don't necessarily have somewhere to send it, the
- 40:04Speaker 9: supply crunch has happened here at home and that's caused
- 40:07Speaker 9: those diesel prices to go high. I know I feel
- 40:10Speaker 9: it when I fill up my car. So of course
- 40:11Speaker 9: we know it's a problem, but I think President Trump
- 40:14Speaker 9: has been working really hard to fix that for us.
- 40:16Speaker 9: I think he needs help from the members of the
- 40:18Speaker 9: House and the Senate, and I'm just not sure that
- 40:20Speaker 9: he's getting that.
- 40:22Speaker 1: And that, honestly, is the problem throughout the entire presidency, right?
- 40:27Speaker 1: The president sets his agenda. The people elected him to
- 40:30Speaker 1: implement that agenda, and he's had to govern through executive
- 40:32Speaker 1: order because the Congress can't get it done. Now, the
- 40:35Speaker 1: House has passed 600 bills, and they're all sitting there
- 40:39Speaker 1: in the Senate. The Senate doesn't take them up. AND
- 40:41Speaker 1: THAT IS REALLY THE ISSUE. IT'S STALLED IN WASHINGTON. GAS
- 40:45Speaker 1: PRICES AREN'T TRUMP'S PROBLEM. IT'S A WASHINGTON PROBLEM. TRUMP IS
- 40:48Speaker 1: DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN WITH THE PEN AND HIS ADMINISTRATION
- 40:51Speaker 1: TO BRING THESE PRICES DOWN. and Democrats trying to take
- 40:58Speaker 1: advantage of a story leading up to the midterms. And
- 41:01Speaker 1: that's really the problem, right? It's misinformation and it's Washington dysfunction.
- 41:06Speaker 1: So how do we convince people, not even have to
- 41:08Speaker 1: convince them, how do we tell them the truth about
- 41:11Speaker 1: why prices are high and how do we get to
- 41:12Speaker 1: the solutions necessary to bring them down?
- 41:15Speaker 9: I mean, again, I couldn't agree with you more. I
- 41:17Speaker 9: do think that Congress appears to be broken at the moment.
- 41:21Speaker 9: I think when we look at any poll data right now,
- 41:23Speaker 9: We see approval numbers that are in the tank. And
- 41:28Speaker 9: it's been a problem for a long time, but I've
- 41:30Speaker 9: been working with a group that has sort of put
- 41:32Speaker 9: forward a really cool idea on that, that would bring
- 41:35Speaker 9: the house back to our neighborhoods. So it's a group
- 41:39Speaker 9: called Hear the People. It's a bipartisan organization. And our
- 41:43Speaker 9: idea is to break down the congressional districts from 750,000
- 41:47Speaker 9: voters to 7,500 in a neighborhood district. And then those
- 41:53Speaker 9: members would get together and vote for your member of Congress.
- 41:57Speaker 9: And I think the point is that members of Congress
- 42:00Speaker 9: need to be beholden to the people who elected them,
- 42:02Speaker 9: not to the special interest lobbyists who have written checks
- 42:05Speaker 9: that have sort of funded their campaigns to get where
- 42:08Speaker 9: they are. We see that a lot in Washington, you know,
- 42:11Speaker 9: that they're paying more attention to the lobbyists in their
- 42:15Speaker 9: ear than to, you know, my next door neighbor who's
- 42:18Speaker 9: struggling with her, her, her, being able to fill up
- 42:21Speaker 9: her car at the pump or, you know, her food
- 42:23Speaker 9: prices at the grocery store. And that's not what our
- 42:26Speaker 9: founding fathers intended, I don't think.
- 42:28Speaker 1: That is such an important point that you made with
- 42:30Speaker 1: respect to access to representation, because, you know, General Flynn
- 42:35Speaker 1: says local action, national impact. And then you've heard, I
- 42:38Speaker 1: forget who says all politics is local. But that is
- 42:41Speaker 1: the secret. Access to your representatives and control over whether
- 42:47Speaker 1: they get elected, that is our biggest way to make
- 42:51Speaker 1: an impact in Washington. And you're right. These congressional districts,
- 42:54Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people, you have to make an appointment.
- 42:57Speaker 1: You see their staff. You don't see the representative. If
- 42:59Speaker 1: you had smaller congressional districts and more access to your leaders,
- 43:04Speaker 1: not only are those races easier to win and you
- 43:06Speaker 1: can have actually better representation with these giant multimillion-dollar campaigns
- 43:10Speaker 1: for one seat because of the power they hold, you
- 43:14Speaker 1: can actually have access to them and you can have
- 43:16Speaker 1: a chance of participating in representation. That would solve a
- 43:20Speaker 1: lot of problems. It's a brilliant organization. Have you found
- 43:23Speaker 1: success with it?
- 43:24Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we're just getting started.
- 43:25Speaker 9: I think we have some really cool things in the
- 43:27Speaker 9: works that are going to be coming down the pipeline
- 43:30Speaker 9: just after the holidays. And, you know, David, I feel
- 43:34Speaker 9: like you and I are absolutely on the same page.
- 43:35Speaker 9: It's representation matters. And I think when we think about
- 43:40Speaker 9: access to our political system, it's just it's been really hard.
- 43:44Speaker 9: And even for those of us, I mean, you and I,
- 43:45Speaker 9: I feel like we're probably very politically educated and it's
- 43:48Speaker 9: still difficult. I have not heard from my member of
- 43:51Speaker 9: Congress in Texas since I moved here. And I think
- 43:55Speaker 9: that's crazy. I mean, that's not what our founding fathers intended.
- 43:57Speaker 9: They intended for the people's house to be of the people.
- 44:01Speaker 9: And I think that's just, we're trying to, we're trying to,
- 44:03Speaker 9: to make America better, to help president Trump, uh, by
- 44:07Speaker 9: sending our neighbors to the house instead of, you know,
- 44:12Speaker 9: bought and paid for, uh, by special interest people. And
- 44:16Speaker 9: I do think that's going to make the world a
- 44:17Speaker 9: better place.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Fingers crossed.
- 44:19Speaker 1: I love it. And I think you're exactly right. I'm
- 44:21Speaker 1: interested to keep following up on that. And thank you
- 44:23Speaker 1: for your insight on diesel prices, because we've seen a
- 44:25Speaker 1: lot of people really just take advantage of this for
- 44:29Speaker 1: political purposes. And the stakes couldn't be higher. If you
- 44:32Speaker 1: talk about representation, give Democrats control and you could watch
- 44:35Speaker 1: any voice that Americans ever hope to have. just vanish overnight.
- 44:39Speaker 1: And it's not even a problem. That's President Trump's fault.
- 44:42Speaker 1: He's actually working to solve it. So thank you so
- 44:44Speaker 1: much for being here. Thank you so much for offering
- 44:45Speaker 1: your take on all this and look forward to talking
- 44:47Speaker 1: again real soon.
- 44:48Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 44:48Speaker 1: Thank you. Still ahead, it's Fired Up Fridays and Chad
- 44:53Speaker 1: Caton is fired up about a mashup of the wildest
- 44:56Speaker 1: stories of the week that you probably haven't heard. You
- 44:59Speaker 1: won't want to miss it. That's coming up next.
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- 45:45Speaker 1: Well, it's Friday, and you know what that means. It's
- 45:48Speaker 1: time for Fired Up Friday with my good friend Chad Caton,
- 45:52Speaker 1: and we're going to try something a little bit different
- 45:55Speaker 1: tonight and see how it goes. So call it a
- 45:58Speaker 1: beta test, I guess, but no, the heat. You can
- 46:01Speaker 1: never put Chad and beta in the same sentence. Now, look,
- 46:04Speaker 1: there are a lot of stories that gets everybody fired
- 46:07Speaker 1: up this week, from the Stanford University using AI to
- 46:10Speaker 1: change the race of a student in promotional images, seriously,
- 46:14Speaker 1: to people climbing out of a subway grate near the
- 46:17Speaker 1: United Nations in New York City. That's right, sewer people.
- 46:20Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. You know him, you
- 46:23Speaker 1: love him. He's the founder of Operation Free Nation, fired
- 46:25Speaker 1: up as always. Mr. Big Baby Chad Caton. Welcome to
- 46:29Speaker 1: Fire Friday, Chad.
- 46:33Speaker 10: You're doing something different today, and I hope the bosses
- 46:36Speaker 10: aren't watching, because I don't know what's coming at me
- 46:38Speaker 10: right now.
- 46:39Speaker 1: Well, look, let's go right to this first story. We're
- 46:42Speaker 1: going to start on a so-called prestigious college campus, places
- 46:46Speaker 1: of higher learning and indoctrination. Get this. Stanford was caught
- 46:51Speaker 1: using AI. This is so funny. to alter a promotional
- 46:57Speaker 1: image for their housing and dining option. You know what
- 47:00Speaker 1: they did? They replaced a male Hispanic student with a
- 47:05Speaker 1: black female student with AI. Like, they changed how they look.
- 47:10Speaker 1: And more than that, the other two students in the photo, well, look,
- 47:14Speaker 1: there's evidence that the AI was used to make them
- 47:17Speaker 1: look thinner, too. The school was called out by their
- 47:21Speaker 1: own independent newspaper run by students... Chad, what do you
- 47:26Speaker 1: think of AI being used to change races of the diversity?
- 47:34Speaker 6: What are we, what are we, why are we surprised? One,
- 47:38Speaker 6: it's Stanford. This is in, this is in California. They're, they're,
- 47:41Speaker 6: they're completely lost their mind.
- 47:43Speaker 10: And, and at the end of the day, if you
- 47:45Speaker 10: ain't black, if you ain't got a minority concept and,
- 47:48Speaker 10: and we don't show a better couch, nobody's coming to
- 47:51Speaker 10: your school, no matter how big you think it is
- 47:53Speaker 10: and how important and how expensive it might be to
- 47:56Speaker 10: go there and learn how to be a communist.
- 47:58Speaker 6: It's expensive work today. And at the end of the day,
- 48:01Speaker 6: they have to.
- 48:02Speaker 10: Show, although we probably aren't going to let very many
- 48:04Speaker 10: minorities in, we want you to know that there is
- 48:06Speaker 10: a couple.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just, I'm like, and I asked when
- 48:11Speaker 1: my producer brought this to me, and he's like, look,
- 48:14Speaker 1: check this out. They swapped out the one kid and
- 48:16Speaker 1: made them black for diversity. I'm like, why'd they swap
- 48:18Speaker 1: out the Hispanic kid? Why did they swap out the
- 48:20Speaker 1: white kid? Because that's what you would expect them to
- 48:22Speaker 1: do if they're trying to be like, you know, inclusive
- 48:24Speaker 1: in the liberal sense of inclusive is getting rid of
- 48:26Speaker 1: the white people. But instead they took the Hispanic guy,
- 48:29Speaker 1: they left the Asian girl, they left the white guy,
- 48:31Speaker 1: and they said, eh. We're going to go with a
- 48:33Speaker 1: black woman now. It's just the craziest sort of stylist.
- 48:36Speaker 1: And they used AI to do it. You can't go
- 48:39Speaker 1: and find an actual black female actress. You have to, anyway,
- 48:42Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's jump across.
- 48:43Speaker 6: How about a black student at Stanford? That might be great.
- 48:46Speaker 6: That's not on the football team, maybe.
- 48:47Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 48:48Speaker 6: Here we have the simple race baiting ridiculousness. And now
- 48:52Speaker 6: they've got AI as a tool to say, you're a
- 48:54Speaker 6: little chubby too, lady. Let me take a little couple
- 48:56Speaker 6: pounds off you.
- 48:58Speaker 10: There's nothing like body shaming and throwing different Lowe's home
- 49:02Speaker 10: improvement colors at your TV.
- 49:03Speaker 1: Well, and it was a promo for like the food
- 49:05Speaker 1: dining hall or something. So why would you make them skinnier?
- 49:08Speaker 1: You want them fatter, right? That means the food's good.
- 49:10Speaker 1: All right, look, I got another story.
- 49:11Speaker 6: Too expensive for fatness.
- 49:14Speaker 1: Let's go to New York because this one keeps getting weird.
- 49:18Speaker 1: Three people were seen... SEEN CLIMBING OUT OF A SEWER
- 49:21Speaker 1: GREAT IN MANHATTAN'S UPPER EAST GREAT IN MANHATTAN'S UPPER EAST
- 49:22Speaker 1: SIDE WEDNESDAY MORNING BEFORE FLEEING SIDE WEDNESDAY MORNING BEFORE FLEEING
- 49:25Speaker 1: INTO TWO VEHICLES PARKED INTO TWO VEHICLES PARKED NEARBY.
- 49:27Speaker 5: NEARBY.
- 49:27Speaker 1: A 911 CALL CAME IN AROUND 430 IN A 911
- 49:28Speaker 1: CALL CAME IN AROUND 430 IN THE MORNING AND THE
- 49:29Speaker 1: INDIVIDUALS THE MORNING AND THE INDIVIDUALS ARE STILL UNIDENTIFIED.
- 49:32Speaker 8: ARE STILL UNIDENTIFIED.
- 49:32Speaker 1: BUT THE STRANGE THING HERE IS BUT THE STRANGE THING
- 49:34Speaker 1: HERE IS LESS ABOUT THEY'RE COMING OUT OF LESS ABOUT
- 49:36Speaker 1: THEY'RE COMING What do you make of the sewer people?
- 49:48Speaker 1: I think that's just the free housing that Zoran Mondami promised.
- 49:51Speaker 1: But what say you?
- 49:53Speaker 6: Now I go further. We're right next to the UN.
- 49:55Speaker 6: This here's the lizard people. We've heard about them.
- 49:58Speaker 1: These people are those.
- 49:59Speaker 6: Part of the alien people. They live underground and whatnot.
- 50:02Speaker 10: And they came out too early because it was probably,
- 50:04Speaker 10: it got a little cold up.
- 50:05Speaker 6: There in New York.
- 50:06Speaker 10: They had to get, you know, the lizards, you know,
- 50:08Speaker 10: the reptilians, you know, they've got to get out in
- 50:11Speaker 10: the sun or they can't keep themselves warm. So they're
- 50:14Speaker 10: by the UN. And we, I mean, I saw a
- 50:16Speaker 10: lot of the UN stuff this week. And if you
- 50:18Speaker 10: can't tell me some of them people ain't lizard people,
- 50:20Speaker 10: I don't know what is.
- 50:21Speaker 6: All I want, David, is what caliber do I need?
- 50:24Speaker 10: Because if I see a person come out the crick
- 50:27Speaker 10: behind my house, I just want to know what I
- 50:29Speaker 10: need to make sure they don't come to my house
- 50:31Speaker 10: inside the house.
- 50:32Speaker 1: The crick behind your house. That's a South Carolina-ism right
- 50:36Speaker 1: there if I'd ever heard one. All right, let's stay.
- 50:38Speaker 6: It's just country. It's not just a state. They say
- 50:40Speaker 6: crick in Texas. It's a crick.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Let's stay in New York a little longer and take
- 50:46Speaker 1: a look at our favorite host of The View. Nobody
- 50:48Speaker 1: has a favorite host of The View. Her name is
- 50:50Speaker 1: Sunny Hoistin. Remember her? And with all the talk of
- 50:53Speaker 1: the Lindsay Clancy case and the mistrial due to a
- 50:55Speaker 1: single juror refusing to find reasonable doubt, she had to
- 50:59Speaker 1: make it all about herself, as always, earlier this week. Hoistin,
- 51:03Speaker 1: or however you say her name, depends on your accent.
- 51:05Speaker 1: made the claim that she was the lone juror in
- 51:08Speaker 1: the 1991 trial of the butcher of Tompkins Square Park.
- 51:12Speaker 1: This is a man who killed and dismembered a young
- 51:14Speaker 1: woman and then cooked her body parts and fed them
- 51:18Speaker 1: in a soup. TO UNSUSPECTING CITIZENS OF NEW YORK. THAT'S
- 51:22Speaker 1: WHY YOU DON'T EAT STREET FOOD, PEOPLE. THIS MAN WAS EVIL,
- 51:24Speaker 1: AND YET HOISTIN, WHATEVER, TOOK IT UPON HERSELF TO STOP
- 51:29Speaker 1: THE JUSTICE SYSTEM FROM PUTTING HIM IN JAIL FOR HIS CRIMES. INSTEAD,
- 51:33Speaker 1: SHE WAS JUST SO PROUD OF CONVINCING THE OTHER JURORS
- 51:36Speaker 1: TO FIND HIM NOT GUILTY FOR REASON OF INSANITY. And
- 51:39Speaker 1: the New York Post found evidence from 35 years ago
- 51:42Speaker 1: when the Post, Daily News, and the Associated Press all
- 51:44Speaker 1: reported that the holdout juror was actually an unemployed man
- 51:48Speaker 1: who wanted to keep the trial going so he could
- 51:50Speaker 1: continue getting paid by the court for his civic duty.
- 51:54Speaker 1: So she's probably lying about all this anyway. Chad, what
- 51:58Speaker 1: do you make of a woman potentially lying about getting
- 52:01Speaker 1: a killer off the hook just to get attention?
- 52:06Speaker 6: Because the view sucks. The ratings are terrible.
- 52:09Speaker 10: You've got Whoopi Goldberg, who you know smells like bad
- 52:12Speaker 10: decisions and an ashtray.
- 52:13Speaker 6: And you're sitting there looking at these women.
- 52:15Speaker 10: We're trying to say in some form or fashion that
- 52:17Speaker 10: it's a female show in feminism when they're constantly berating
- 52:21Speaker 10: the concept of keeping men out of women's restrooms. And
- 52:25Speaker 10: then you got the hoisin sauce of Sonny And all
- 52:28Speaker 10: of a.
- 52:28Speaker 6: Sudden we're supposed to believe her BS.
- 52:30Speaker 1: She's also a lawyer.
- 52:31Speaker 10: I think if this, this should be investigated and she
- 52:34Speaker 10: should be removed from the bar.
- 52:35Speaker 6: Let's play the game. Shall we?
- 52:38Speaker 1: I don't want to play any games with her or
- 52:40Speaker 1: any of the women on the view, Chad.
- 52:42Speaker 6: I'd love to go on the view.
- 52:43Speaker 1: I'm available.
- 52:44Speaker 6: Please.
- 52:45Speaker 1: I hate your show. And I'm going to tell you
- 52:47Speaker 1: what this show belongs in the crick behind my house.
- 52:51Speaker 6: I would wear a view shirt.
- 52:53Speaker 1: Why do you have a Vue shirt? I don't, but
- 52:56Speaker 1: I would if I.
- 52:56Speaker 6: Go on the show. I'll do whatever they want. Just
- 52:58Speaker 6: give me a microphone, damn it.
- 53:00Speaker 1: I think I'm the only person crazy enough to give
- 53:02Speaker 1: you a microphone. Chad, thank you so much for being
- 53:05Speaker 1: here and being fired up with us this Friday. We'll
- 53:08Speaker 1: see you next week for the same thing. I think
- 53:09Speaker 1: we're going to do this more often. I kind of
- 53:10Speaker 1: like this. It's fun, right?
- 53:13Speaker 6: I'm scared, but you're my boy, and hoorah.
- 53:15Speaker 1: All right, hoorah. Well, that is our show for tonight.
- 53:20Speaker 1: Make sure you join us Monday for a closer look
- 53:25Speaker 1: at these so-called legal drugs that are sold in gas
- 53:28Speaker 1: stations and allegedly at the center of two student deaths
- 53:33Speaker 1: at Ole Miss. It's a weird story. We're going to
- 53:35Speaker 1: bring you all the details Monday. And as always, stay
- 53:37Speaker 1: in touch with us on social media at David Pollak
- 53:39Speaker 1: USA or send us an email at DavidPollakPrimetime at OANN.com.
- 53:43Speaker 1: And if you see anything over the weekend that you
- 53:45Speaker 1: want us to talk about with Chad next Friday, send
- 53:48Speaker 1: us a link to those wild and crazy stories. We'll
- 53:51Speaker 1: see you at the same time, same place on Monday.
- 53:53Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Until then, stay classy, America. Good night.
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