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another week another episode and here we are matters unfortunately died but we'll move
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on yeah he'll be
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missed welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy
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a lot I think so you can resurrect anything these days so watch out what
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will happen next week speaking of of both resurrecting uh franchises and
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literal human beings from the dead um 28
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Days Later 28 Weeks Later and now soon
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28 years later they doing it um I think it could be interesting they were both
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good they were very different actually tonally quite different from each other
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like yeah 28 weeks I think is a very different movie and a different and I
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quite like I think I like 28 weeks more it was certainly more of a Hollywood
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movie less of an indie movie so they they each had their own you know the
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first one boasted it was the first feature film to be shot entirely on
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digital video when that still meant something second one I'm pretty sure
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they just shot on film because that's what they did back then so you know
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they've got a separate look for them each and um you know new cast and
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everything but it is like even the sequel was sort of an interesting
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premise like it you had the zombie outbreak and then they contained it and
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then what happened and then yeah yeah and if you go back there and you kind of
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go into that containment area then you're probably [ __ ] yes and so let's
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see how big of a containment area it is now yeah we joked about this at the time
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when they when they came up with 28 Weeks Later we were like what are they
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going to do one 28 years later they be like I remember those zombies 30 years
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ago well if you according to Star Wars logic that's how it works yeah 30 years
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ago you just completely forget the Jedi what are they yeah that's right yes
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exactly yeah yeah plus I mean 10 to 15
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years in um the sun on tne will turn you
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from uh looking like you and McGregor to
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looking like Alec Guinness well that's sort of true the sun is not kind too
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there two of the sons that is true two sons yeah yeah
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yeah I mean this is a a country a planet where you had to have literal moisture
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Farms to generate water so yeah okay maybe their Skin's just not at their
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best I'm just going to throw that why not not settle on a planet that you need
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to farm moisture yeah it's easy to say that though because I think that about
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huge regions of planet Earth like why do people live there like for example just
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to get top iCal but to stay completely non-political right now two groups of
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people are fighting over one of the shittiest pieces of desert on planet
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Earth right both say that it's theirs I say I'm just thankful I've never been
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there I don't think you can quite compare moisture fing on T to that I
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don't know man I don't have you seen this place it's just an arid desert I
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know it's symbolic and I know it's people's home I'm not I'm not dissing
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I'm not jumping in I'm not taking any sides I'm just saying you know it's not
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like they're fighting over I've lost you I'm not even going to continue down
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this but we move on so have you heard about we' spoke about the Florida
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Joker yes yeah and I think he's finally come to his senses and
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realized if they did make a character based on him this is a good thing for
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him yeah not only that hasn't he kind of
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based his image on an existing character
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anyway soing Joker yeah so the back up
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for new listeners this this guy he must be like a local I don't want to say
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celebrity personality he just a he went viral because of his mug shot right okay
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so not only okay so it was a mug shot and he is a convicted criminal
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yeah um but he has a tattooed face right yes yeah and then after the
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GTA 6 sort of uh trailer came out and there was a character that sort of like
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he then went and dyed his hair purple to make him look more like the character
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because head green and he's I'm gonna Sue first it was a million then it was
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two and then it's 10 million now he's he's gone let me just voice the
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character yeah because the thing is it's not to that game's not out yet right
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it's still yeah so if it was a problem they would just reskin that character to
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not look like him you know what I mean like the rockar for basing characters of
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them before like the famous Lindy Lohan one oh yes that was a GTA as well right
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yep GTA 5 she took him to court and lost and she was trying to claim that was it
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was weird there was there was s of two characters that she I think she was
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trying to claim with Bas off her one was in the loading screen there's just a
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girl in the Bikini doing the p and and if you recall that's what they do that's
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what the GTA games do they have generic
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stock characters in bikinis on their load screens and then there's another
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character that you sort of had to help get away from the paparazzi and but yeah
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they came out so yeah rockar know what they're doing I think this is fastest
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thing you can do because this will give him his extra 15 minutes of
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f yeah man I mean look the the premise of this is It's said in Florida and they
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seem to have taken a lot of these again I don't want to use the word influencers
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but people who have gone viral through
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videos of them doing dumb things it's a very strange
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State yeah I mean I'm assuming there's normal suburbs in Florida where people
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are just normal people and go to work and yeah what was your experience to
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Disneyland and stuff but there it just seemed like a normal place did you go to
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the beach did you go to what is that Beach what is that beach that you always
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see people like rollerblading along and uh in you know in their swimmers isn't
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that that's La isn't it that one the one oh there's yeah there's Venice Beach in
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La Florida beaches is where you see them just cracked full of people on spring break right
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right yeah Beach I'm not really down
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with my beaches to be honest um Florida beach I think it's just Florida Beach
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Florida beach yeah that makes okay
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straight right America's
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Wang and then yeah because yeah yeah only time I see is that when you're
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looking at Spring break break stories and yeah Pack full
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of yeah yeah yeah or videos of you know
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twerking out the window of a car and uh Florida Joker etc etc which they have
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replicated in the game but they've not been shy about that either they've
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they've basically said we are mimicking local personalities for this yeah that
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because a lot of the stuff in the trailer is like viral clips that have
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been out there like with crocodiles and alligators not crocodiles they got
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alligators there yeah yeah in the bayou
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yes so look I'm I can't wait for it to come out I know that you and Matt will
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get it play for about five minutes and then stop look the the GTA games that I've liked
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I've liked a lot and I've played like you know um Vice City San Andreas played
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all the way through um but since then I
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think a I'm just a bit bored playing
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kind of criminal underworld figures mob type characters I'm just a bit bored of
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that um Rockstar Games are always top quality
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but I prefer they're more thematic games like the red Deads and
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uh you know Red Dead was too Max P too
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Red Dead to was far too big amazing once you got into the game and you unlocked
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the far shelter areas and could do that that but it was also that made it a bit
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boring though because yeah well I didn't do a lot of f because I did like just
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riding the horse yeah that was when in the snow that just
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very long time yeah oh that intro if I was to ever play it again I'd try to see
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if I've got a save game just after that skip that yes because that you don't
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need that you do not need that great like oh yeah yeah but it again again
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yeah I don't want to do that again yeah I think Red Dead one which was a sequel
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of sorts I guess in and of itself of Red Dead Revolver but
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um it was the perfect length yeah uh I've I've criticized before that you
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kind of the basic missions that you start off
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to learn how to do things returned at the end and I thought that was a bit
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weird thematically it worked because you start off as a farm hand then you become
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a bandit and then eventually you become the master of your own property and it's
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got a very very cool ending but you do end up just fixing a lot of fences and
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stuff around your farm look I'm interest
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I'm cuz I will play I GTA 6 but I'm worried that they're going to focus a
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lot on their online because that's been their Cash Cow for so long and look I
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don't mind if they release stuff that's for online but allow me to play it
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single player as well how does the online work for GTA because I as like
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the only ones I've played are the older ones and I can't imagine how you would play those
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and if we had if we had if we had time and friends who also had time it could
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be quite fun because you sort of so we all play as multiple characters
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different characters or we all just play yeah you create your own character and
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create and then there's like different activities you can do like you can steal
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cars and then sell them on it's actually quite interesting but if you're not
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playing with people it's not that fun yeah yeah I think if they it' be nice if
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they could introduced like the heists I'd love to do the heists but you need
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people to do it with sure okay you've that sounds interesting that would be
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interesting literally stealing cars and swapping out VIN numbers selling them on
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doesn't sound too interesting to me but like you have to do like lots of little
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missions like go and steal this car park this bus here go get this go set stuff
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up do Recon like all of that sounds fun but you have to play with people yeah
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and it has to be in Florida well no we just one to remember
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GTA 5 is in CU I'm talking about five that's of course oh okay I'm more likely
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to play La well there's another Rockstar game that I like is LA Noir that was
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published by Rockstar right yes made in Australia by team bundai yeah who made
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one of the best games and then then they shut down yeah yeah I'll say though that
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does get a little repetitive after a while yes and also your choices don't
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actually matter no and actually the funny thing is you realize the choices
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don't matter as you're playing it because because you still progress
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anyway but then they weave that into the story in a strange way but much too late
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much too late in the game for you to spoiler alert for a game that came out
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ages ago sure this guy murdering these women but you arrest someone for each of
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the murders and then it comes out later it's like the May's nephew or something
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yeah so essentially you don't know it's a serial killer or your character kind
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of does your character kind of has an idea that maybe it is because he starts
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following CL just arrest someone close this C yeah so you arrest a new person for each
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individual murder only to later which does make sense why even if
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you kind of screw up the bust you still progress to the next level because
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actually it's not any of those people anyway I want to they need to make a
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sequel to that yeah they do need to make a sequel they do need to make a sequel I
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I replayed it recently because it came out on switch and I thought switch is a
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perfect platform for it because you know it can handle a game
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from 15 years ago maybe well you would have got the remastered version it is
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remastered but it it just makes it feel like you remember it being anyway it has
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it's not a remake it's you know it's literally just an upscale yeah but yeah it's it's
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good give give me a new one I like that because even with that like it's more
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about the story than the combat like you can actually skip more combat in the
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game yeah yeah oh yeah and you can skip the driving too cuz I find that driving
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very difficult and unintuitive yes but you can just ask your partner to drive
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every single time unless it's a a Chase unless the actual mission is a Chase but
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then if you fail it three times they let you skip it anyway yeah you want to skip
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this I used to like just getting the car and then making my partner sort of Chase
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the car as I sort of drove off slowly in front of him yeah yeah it's his
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car like it's his car and he goes yeah yeah that's right yeah no one wants to
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drive the car and but the thing is too though like there's hidden cars that you can unlock
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and all of this stuff in that game I never bothered with any of that because
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you hey you don't have to you don't get any advantages and it's not like vice
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city where the cars are very different to one another because it's the 80s like
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these are all cars from the 30s that just look the same as one another all
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weigh about six ton yeah that's right yeah I've got no real no Nostalgia for
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those types of cars certainly but speaking of playing three games a second
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time I'm well into my second playthrough of Alan Wake 2 right now how is that it
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changes things what what does it change
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so to back up and this is not really a spoiler but it is the end of alen wake 2
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but in the end of Alan Wake 2 uh he finds himself in a kind of a spiral as
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he puts it you know the first game ended with it's not a lake it's an ocean and
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then the second game ends with it's not a loop it's a spiral that's right so
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time isn't cyclical it just keeps going on and on and on with slight differences
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each time and so they've and I actually did not know
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about this when I first played it but once you complete the game something
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pops up and it says the final draft because it's about an author writing
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writing a book um and you can play the game through again multiple times I
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guess um with slight differences so so far I haven't really encountered anything
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different per se the I think the differences come in later on and there's
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a whole new ending evidently so I think when you I think when you fight the end
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boss sort of in in the second time around you end up with a different
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scenario than you did the first time you fought him when you worked out that it
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wasn't a loop it was a spiral that's the main difference different manuscripts
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that you find this time I'm actually reading them as well the F like in the
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first Alan white game I was kind of just collecting them as Collectibles and I
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wasn't really focusing on this on the story of it this it's a bit more
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compelling but mostly I'm just understanding the game a
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lot more the second time around and when you play it the first time and it's all
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mysterious that's all well and good that's very interesting but when you
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play it and it makes sense it's interesting on a whole the level I wish
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they had like achievement an achievement final draft did you but I
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mean yeah so there's not even a yeah right okay right there's no incentive
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other than just to experience incentive to go back and just play a great game
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again but that achievement I can't do it yeah you'd be missing out on
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achievements for something else that would be counting towards your um lots
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of things I noticed the first the second time playthrough so for example and this
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this is on me this is not on the game but like the later on in the game when
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you're playing as Allan you meet a sheriff in the dark place and I was like
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who the [ __ ] is this guy and I didn't realize I must have just blinked and
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missed it the first time but he is part of saga's story and he just disappears
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into the dark place that you see that happen um but I was like oh okay well
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that makes way more sense now than it just being this nonse character who just
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shows up and gives you yeah a map and other hints and things like that but there's
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also just so many little I sent you that screenshot the other day and they don't
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focus on this they don't zoom into it but just Mr door in his talk show when
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he's interviewing Alan he has the OD dear Diner mug on his table which is the
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diner that Saga is in in her storyline that he was in in the previous game so
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it's just all these all just ties in together and just yeah I also realized
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if you go into Mr door's dressing room when you're backstage again they don't
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make this this it doesn't figure into the story whatsoever it's just another
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little detail he's reading a book by that doctor character I forget his name
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from control who gives you all those all that backstory and Exposition in the
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control game yep so I'm so glad they sort of controlled it sort of well and
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then let them to be able to go back to do Ellen wake because Ellen wake was the
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first game was great combat was a bit Yeah Yeah a bit tedious yeah and then
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they made alen wake American nightmares which was just action and just combat
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that we didn't really like from that yeah that's right and not even really
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playing as Alan Wake but now they've allowed you to they've been allowed to
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do what they want and we get a great game it's not just a it's not a SE it's
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a sequel but it's not like a Cod 2 or
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yeah yeah um the other thing that I am enjoying this time around is not
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having to figure out what the [ __ ] is going on as I'm playing I can just play
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it and again that was fine the first time around because you explore but like
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even just in in Allan's storyline
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there's like taken everywhere but you
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don't you don't have to engage them you don't have to fight them mostly just
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switch off your torch and you can walk right past them um the first time I
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tried to fight literally everyone I encoun like you have to do when you're in Saga
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story y very different game well very different game just very different ways of
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handling there's one bug though have you heard about this no so this doesn't
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affect me because I did a a fairly detailed playthrough the first time
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sounds like you did as well or even more
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so how you proceed into the final
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draft uh second play yep is always based on your first
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playr right yep so if you played through and say you focused on the story you
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didn't do a lot of exploring and so you missed out a lot of Collectibles and
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stuff you finish the game you finish the game and then
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you go oh actually before I progress to the final draft I might just go back and
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load a save and and go back and find all that other stuff and complet it a bit
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more completely and then move on to the final draft it will continue from the
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first time you finished not the most recent time and people are pretty annoyed about
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that well yeah because that's the save that you yeah no that's that's right
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that's to me that's how it should work I I tend to agree and I think that's on
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you if you just rush through it also gives you
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warnings it absolutely does yeah if you this is and if there's anything else you
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want to do go do that now yeah yeah if you haven't gone back now that you've
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got got the bolt cutters and cut every lock that you couldn't get to the first
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time then you're not going to be able to do them yeah that's right that's fair
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people can be upset about it but that's your fault yeah now um remedy have said
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they will look at it they will consider changing it so that it just
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continues from your most recent because people seem to really want that but um
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but it doesn't matter anyway because you're going through the same levels
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you're going into the same yeah places so you could just find them the second
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time I don't I don't really know and you can get achievements the second I've
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gotten achievements that I didn't get the first time for finding things
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yeah cats are fighting can you explain this image that
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was sent to us earlier today I may have picked up one of my cats upside down and
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she was actually quite enjoying it until Hannah got the photo and then it looks
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like that she's freaking out and panicking and I'm torturing the it looks
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like you're literally abusing an animal I am not she actually enjoys
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it yeah yeah it's just when the photo came out it just looks like yeah it went
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downhill pretty quick yeah yeah um there is something
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here phop new which I find a bit strange and I thought with the recent strikes
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and everything this might have been thing but the air cut it's a no yeah
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it's a it's an absolute definite no so Suicide
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Squad you know famously
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garbage movie um but Oscar award winning
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oh yeah makeup something like for makeup makeup effects um
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so David a who's the director of it basically said it's not my fault that it
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sucks he said he handed in his cut and it was a perfectly good movie and then
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they got somebody else to come in and re-edit it y like a music video and it is very OBT
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in its editing lots of text on the screen and graphics and slowmo and
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freeze frames and stuff like that it apparently wasn't in his I do believe
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him that his version was probably different marginally better yeah
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different sure and probably better but not by much because I mean it's still
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going to be the same old movie right that he and he's been the one pushing
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for the air cut like we got cut of Justice League and he's also said things
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like oh there's way more of Jared Leto as the Joker and it's like mate you
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don't understand what we hated about this
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movie um but it seems like uh it's not ha well look DC said it's not happening
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full stop from the beginning but he was really pushing for it but evidently he
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he is just he's tired yeah he said he's done with DC he's not going to push for
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an air cut um done and done very sad he
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had a good cry and now feels healthier and now he just needs his wounds to
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heal that's so sad I know right look I actually thought that they might chance
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like with the strikes that happen we're coming up to a stage where there's going
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to be they need content yeah so why not take these sheld movies that one of
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brothers did like maybe bgirl yeah that would be the perfect I
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mean it's literally sitting there isn't it complete as far as I know yeah just
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release it just go hey this is not Cannon this is not anything yeah it's
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just a movie straight streaming mate there's no such thing as Canon anymore
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they've got a Joker movie that's got nothing to do with it they've got a
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Batman movie that's got nothing to do with it do a bgirl movie who cares yeah
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just just not everyone has to be Marvel
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no so yeah I don't know we'll see look I
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I will say I will actually watch this I'd watch it but I'm not I'd watch on a
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streaming service oh yeah yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't pay to go and see it no God no God no
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service that I already have I'm not going out of my way to watch it yeah no
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think that's a lot of other people's thoughts on it as well
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why the whole the whole concept of a director's cut happened by accident
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anyway then then the first one that people kind of know is the Blade Runner
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director's cut and when I was um a teenager that was kind of the version we
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were all watching it was like oh there's a director's cut um but actually a lot
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of people don't know that had nothing to do with the director and um that was a a
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film festival who found an old work print that was just a rough draft of the
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final so it's just an unfinished version released it and called it the director's
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cut and um people loved it because you
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know was slightly more raw than the you know slightly different ending didn't
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have the voiceover in yet um which and everyone's like oh
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director's Cuts directors can just go back and re-edit their movies and then
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it kind of in a in a strange Paradox Ridley scottt was like well I had
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nothing to do with that but actually I would like to go back and do one yeah
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and so he did the Final Cut and uh and kind of did a hybrid of them both really
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plus some new some new stuff but yeah like
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directors they direct they're
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not that's different to editing a movie yeah
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like yeah I don't know it's it's a group effort but yeah just because of the
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director says this is what I like directors maybe also sometimes aren't
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good at seeing the entire picture like oh yeah uh let's look at uh what's that
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movie that just came out that Star Wars ripoff Rebel Moon oh
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sure have you watched that yet I've watched that you watched it good
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movie it's on my list it's on my like bookmarked and I just keep looking at it
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and going nah but see the problem is is with this cuz when he came out and went
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that's a longer cut that would be better and it's all like yes it would be
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because you ski out the story in it but his idea of making movies is to make
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them very very long yeah yeah so that's not a good way to tell a story in a
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movie because you don't want a 4-Hour movie to sit there and watch you want
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but the the irony is that a lot of it's I don't know about this one but Zack
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Snider's movies always have so much slow motion like and not just normal slow
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like super slow motion it's like mate if you just made this normal speed this
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movie would be normal length look watch Rebel Moon and you
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watch it could have been good and I can understand why he's saying like there
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needs to be more because it's missing so much like they
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just basically go and collect people who are going to fight the war for them but
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no explanation of why these who these people are or so it's it's an early it's
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an early 2000s black hog movie then yes show the cool stuff and don't explain
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why anyone's actually there or what they're doing that's exactly what it is
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so watch it I will watch it I've got that and the the Creator is that the
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Creator Gareth Edwards sci-fi one that Matt saur and said was disappointing as
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well so I just I've got two disappointing Sci-Fi movies that I know
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I'll just wish were better yeah yeah yeah Rebel Moon that's already
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got a sequel so yeah I think he doesn't so cheap and so quick like I think he's just he's
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always on budget he's always on time they'll just always give him some money
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to make the movie well yeah part two it comes out in March or something like
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it's not like waiting a year or anything yeah well I think he shoots him in a
28:45
studio too like not like Avatar where we're getting one every two years Jesus
28:50
Christ I'm not even I didn't even see that last I'm not I'm not I'm out I'm done it's not
28:57
good no um another so just while we're
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quickly talking about of Star Wars and and and Recaps I read a an interesting
29:08
perspective the other day that somebody said the reason there's and again
29:13
obviously this is not the real reason but the reason there's arguments about
29:17
who shot first Han or greo is because there were so many people in the MOs Le
29:23
Cana and everyone's memory of that incident is a little bit different so
29:29
like somebody who was standing on this side might have said oh yeah no I saw
29:33
Han he was the only one who shot and the other somebody standing on the other
29:35
side might have said no no I'm pretty sure this guy shot as well well who shot
29:39
first and this whole thing about trying to justify why there's multiple versions
29:43
is because it's this like completely subjective didn't shoot at all it's not
29:50
that he shot first he didn't even shoot yeah that's that's the Star Wars valid
29:55
valid yeah yeah that's true because that's where that originally who shot
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first came from because remember they edited in that greo shot and Miss from fo
30:05
away right and then they made it that it bent like it did like ricocheted which
30:10
is why he missed they man they've changed that so many times they made it
30:13
that they shoot at the same time yeah
30:18
which just leave it to how sh in C
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blood yeah yeah because that's who he was mhm if you some of the books from
30:28
back then he was a gunfighter as well he would do jewels on behalf of people and
30:33
sure even with his Blaster because it had the sights on it he'd file down the
30:37
sights so when he pulled it out it wouldn't get caught in these holster and
30:40
stuff see that's red that's awesome oh man I miss those old Han Solo at stars
30:45
end and all of that stuff yeah they were great books not for adults they were
30:50
really teenage books yeah yeah yeah that's right but that's fine we were
30:55
very very young I was a teenager I read them I love them exactly yeah um so
31:00
Denny off and Weiss who adapted Game of
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Thrones for TV um and famously ruined that
31:09
eventually um were going to do a Star Wars and they had they were signed up
31:14
but as Kathleen Kennedy likes to do she likes to announce when Star Wars movies
31:18
are happening and then cancel them so there's is not does she care them or
31:23
just stop talking about them and then well go yeah that's not happening
31:27
anymore yeah so that that was this one they they're not doing it I mean they
31:32
they're moving they're done they're doing other stuff now but they said that
31:36
their Star Wars movie was going to be set thousands of years ago and it was
31:40
going to be about the first person to work out that they were Force sensitive
31:43
so the very very first Jedi and I think that could have been quite interesting a
31:48
because it wouldn't have had Darth Vader or any Skywalkers in it hopefully
31:52
hopefully it wasn't like Jeff Skywalker and it's like and it's a family thing and this is
31:58
a good thing like it could have been something set like it not about anything
32:02
else like in the Star Wars Universal it's cool but you don't have to have a
32:06
Skywalker and yeah people don't have to be related doesn't it have it it doesn't
32:11
have to be about Rebels versus Empire it could just
32:15
be yeah no or any other kind of Giant floating
32:21
weapon what are what are Star Wars movies we are getting cuz I'm so
32:26
confused now what's coming out now let's look actually that's a good point Star
32:32
Wars upcoming
32:35
yeah it sort of got Mandalorian and grou is the next one oh yeah that's that's a
32:41
movie now which hope that's just a made TV movie I I'm not going of a movie to
32:48
see that no and I'm only 5050 whether I would even watch that on streaming
32:54
because I've not even seen the third season of uh Mandalorian then
33:00
there's Star Wars the new Jedi Order what is
33:06
that Daisy Ridley returning as Ray Skywalker oh yeah heard that so it's
33:12
episode 10 essentially I guess
33:18
yeah um oh I think I think Donald Glover actually said something about the Lando
33:24
movie recently okay I that's that's one of the few ones I'd go out of my way to
33:29
see re solo was not good but Donald
33:35
Glover as Lando was amazing yeah 100% he was the best thing
33:41
about why are there all these capes so
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good okay so uh SOA season two Andor season
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two um and a few other bad batch season 3 acolyte Skeleton Crew then there's ta
33:57
White Star Wars movie mhm then there's James Mangold Star Wars movie then
34:03
there's Dave filoni's Mando verse New Republic
34:08
movie then John favos Mandalorian movie Star Wars Rogue Squadron
34:15
movie that was that one's been cancelled that was the one that was going to be
34:21
done by oh uh
34:26
yes no it's James Cameron's ex-wife was it yeah it's going to be done and for
34:31
that one I that's a movie I'd actually like but I'd like that as a television
34:35
series and to focus on like yeah like a Battle Star Galactica but but set within
34:40
the Rogue Squadron that would be excellent that would have been really
34:44
good again just focus on their [ __ ] don't don't make it about the greater
34:49
politics or anything just the day-to-day [ __ ] in that Squadron that they're going
34:53
through they're going out they're just shooting down X-Wing no shooting down
34:58
Tie fighters you sometimes they lose Pilots you get a new pilot to come
35:02
in yeah yeah then the Lando
35:07
movie Star Wars Rangers of the new Republic I remember that but that's
35:12
presumed cancelled yeah because I think that Ryan Johnson Star Wars Trilogy
35:17
presumed cancelled but but not officially canceled officially but he's
35:21
still the only one that talks about it Trilogy though too like wasn't even just
35:26
a one-off movie or episode of Mandan [ __ ] Trilogy both announced it like
35:31
before his movie had even come out that y I'm going to do this Trilogy and then
35:34
his movie came out and then Disney never spoke about it again yeah that's right
35:40
wait till one comes out and like he could have done the next one like at
35:45
least give him one maybe two before you promis three I think I know people are
35:50
sick of talking about Sal I think that drives me crazy about the sequels were
35:56
they didn't like they came out and said we're making a trilogy but didn't have
36:00
the story worked out just let everyone write their own story and sort of like
36:05
yeah what because there were so many things like like that first scene in
36:10
Rogue one where uh
36:14
PO is given that data disc or Whatever It Is by that old man and he hides it in
36:21
uh BB and then the [ __ ] Empire come and attack like who was that old guy
36:26
what was the info what's the backstory to that like this is all very
36:30
interesting stuff you've set up yes and then we just never touch on that ever
36:36
again no forget it and I still think they missed a great thing with Luke they
36:41
just destroyed his character oh man and no one's more angry about that than Mark
36:47
Hamill because yeah you ruined something like you just put out that Luke even
36:52
though he's saw good in his in his
36:56
father to murder his nephew cuz he had right cuz he had a hunch yeah that's
37:02
right yeah murdering in the n in his sleep yeah and the other what they could
37:08
have changed instead of having like Luke could have tried to change the force
37:12
like instead of just being light and dark it could have been hey yes it's in
37:16
between we don't have to be in extreme and yeah yeah yeah and all those rules
37:21
of two that the you know the Sith bring in he could be like it doesn't have to
37:25
be like this we can just take this back to like a Grassroots type of thing and
37:30
the force can be more of a religion you know like it used to be
37:34
instead of this just way to fight each other missed it they missed the mark
37:40
yeah ran Johnson just really and then the last one is just uh
37:46
well there's nothing I can do with this let's just blow [ __ ] up yeah every ship
37:52
put every ship anyone's ever seen put a raptor in there it's not that show no
37:57
don't worry put it in there it'll be fine I I remember so little about that
38:03
movie and I know there were bits that I liked because the one time I saw it in
38:07
the cinema I remember liking that little babo freak guy I remember a couple of
38:11
other things being quite good but just generally speaking it was awful why is
38:17
this an army of Imperials still starty
38:21
like here and just when they go to that planet The Burning Man planet and it's
38:28
just all these aliens doing a synchronized Dance I'm like oh man this
38:31
is like special edition return to the Jedi garage they go and get the Army and
38:36
everyone join the Army to fight like why is this first order there if everyone in
38:42
the galaxy is against them like yeah how you
38:46
power yeah yeah that's right true right
38:51
because actually in the first movie in Star Wars sorry listeners in in the in a
38:57
new hope Star Wars um Luke is going to join the academy like he's going to join
39:03
the Empire because he wants to be a pilot and he wants to be in the Army and
39:07
it wasn't evil per se it's just that there were certain people in there that
39:13
were you know zealots about it and that they were you know like breaking the
39:18
eggs to make the omelet etc etc and he eventually I mean he only I mean there's
39:25
deleted scenes where you know he meets an old friend who is already about to
39:28
jump ship and all of that stuff yeah but um I mean it really is only because he
39:32
meets Leia and she talks him into it wants to get
39:37
laid that's right doesn't know their brother and sister well they weren't at
39:42
that time no they absolutely were not or or or none of that would have
39:48
happened all right we don't have to talk about Star Wars anymore and actually
39:53
actually with them being brother or sister that wasn't even a thing I think
39:55
George just made that up in Return of Jedi so even in Empire it wasn't a oh
40:00
yeah oh they they Mack on in the start of Empire yep and that wasn't haha
40:06
people going to find this weird later it was a no he had to work out why Luke
40:10
snaps and went oh yeah I'll make them related and then there way that's how we do it
40:16
yeah that was the beginning of the end let's talk about some other franchise
40:21
that people love that I don't understand oh there's there's plenty here which
40:25
which one do you want to choose I see he was bored of the
40:29
Rings so this is followup a couple of weeks ago I said that um I never
40:34
actually read the books of Lord of the Rings and I wanted to go back and read
40:37
them um mostly because I like the movies Lord of the Rings and I figured you know
40:42
I like books as well so this will be good I'll get the expanded law
40:48
um these are really boring go these are
40:51
so boring there's a lot of words look the thing is I'm not going to say talk
40:57
is not a great World Builder or character creator or linguist he's all
41:03
of these things but I don't think he's necessarily a good writer because he's
41:08
longwinded he changes tone like like willy-nilly
41:14
it's it's the movies are better the movies are better like when you watch that
41:21
movie and you he starts off on black and you hear Kate Winslet you know I feel it
41:26
in the war like it's so visceral it's just it just
41:31
pulls you in this book you've got to really just keep saying just keep
41:35
reading you might get to some good stuff later and that's not what a good book is
41:39
you could actually just see what it is in the book He's explaining in a lot of
41:44
detail about what you meant to be and that would be fine too if he explained
41:49
it and then stopped and moved on to something else but he will say the same
41:53
thing over and over in different ways and you're like yeah man you told told
41:57
me about this it's like just listening to like a long- winded colleague tell
42:01
you what they did on the weekend you're like yeah I get it you went to the beach
42:05
like get to the point like what what what happened there how was it yeah that's
42:09
right yeah so I've I've stopped I've
42:12
stopped I deleted it off my Kindle I'm not going back yeah I I might I may
42:19
watch the movies again just to the enjoy them I might not
42:26
even do that to be honest aren they like 12 hours or something well I think even
42:32
if you just took the same three would be two and a half would be close to 10
42:36
hours so I'd be surprised if it wasn't
42:39
at least 12 um but I I tend to think there's a reason that movies are only a
42:45
certain length long you know stories Good well-rounded stories in a 3
42:51
structure 90 minutes two hours is where you want it to be for a movie especially
42:57
Fellowship I mean there's just a lot more walking in that Extended Cut a more
43:03
walking so yeah no apparently I don't like Lord of the Rings sorry sorry nerds
43:08
I've let you down I've been honest I've never liked it yeah never read the books
43:14
I watched the first movie and went this is not for me I don't like
43:18
fantasy I don't mind fantasy and I like some more than others
43:24
I'm more like a sword and sorcery kind of fantasy fan like I like He-Man you
43:30
know what I mean Conan that kind of stuff more than elves and wizards yeah
43:35
like I like Conan and stuff like that yeah but it's Wizards and yeah no not for
43:41
me I I'll confess something I never play as a mage or a wizard if if I get a
43:45
chance in a computer game I'm always the Barbarian or the Archer or they're
43:50
fun yeah I just want to kill people I don't want to be [ __ ] around with
43:53
spells which I think is why I couldn't get into Witcher too is because it was
43:57
too focused on the magic which of three is just like just stab people yeah like
44:02
you can like which of three is great you can just run stab people or you can take
44:05
a little bit of time and work out which oils you need to put in your sword to
44:09
fight which ones or just run and stab just [ __ ] yeah that's right that's
44:14
what I put the level down and just stab that's what I did that's exactly what I
44:19
did speaking of Witcher so there a little bit of followup here um on um TV
44:26
star and film Enthusiast Henry caval right people think they've pinpointed
44:31
the exact moment he decided not to return for The Witcher season 4 right
44:36
really did you have a look at this interview so this is an interview it's
44:40
it's a panel somewhere I forget where it is it's him you don't even have to
44:44
listen to it you can just you can just watch a still really and I I'll I'll put
44:47
us I'll put a still in the notes but yeah he's sitting next to the showrunner
44:51
and she is saying she goes we wanted
44:53
geralt to be like just relatable to
44:58
everyone right and so we just kept infusing more and more humor into the
45:04
story and just making him really relatable and Henry caval is sitting next to her just
45:10
like like you can just tell that's just not what he thinks at all and uh
45:17
evidently this was this interview was very very close to him just walking out
45:23
so they reckon he was just like [ __ ] this obviously we have
45:28
like he's a gamer I think he thought you guys have
45:35
not played this game you haven't read these books I have I mean look I'm not
45:41
all I'm not for actors getting heavy on set and throwing their weight around but
45:45
I think he was like no look it's called The Witcher I play The Witcher and I'm
45:50
very invested in this and I need you to just trust me what when I do this you
45:56
know like we we heard stories about him just like cutting lines out on the Fly
46:00
because he was like no I wouldn't say that yeah deal with it other
46:06
actors but then in the other way is you do have to make him sort of talk more in
46:11
a TV show then you would necessar with the game because in the the game there's
46:16
other stuff happening in the book you've got stuff explaining what's going
46:19
through 10 and what's other character thinking and doing in the TV show you
46:23
can't just have him go and that's a 15 minute scene yeah that's right I'll admit I didn't
46:30
even watch the whole season two I start I watched like two episodes and just
46:34
could get into it and I don't really know why because season one was very
46:38
good yeah very very good just yeah and
46:43
what this because was he back for season three yes he's in season three but we
46:48
haven't got that yet right no and then season four we switch over to a to a
46:52
Hemsworth to a lesser Hemsworth yeah but yeah I I don't even know of
47:00
which I mean Matt SARS by it Matt's like you guys are insane it's just as
47:04
good just didn't didn't grab me look something else that Matt loves
47:10
that that it turns out I do not share his enthusiasm for and I know you'll be
47:14
on my side in this one listeners I I watch I went back to watch Twin Peaks
47:19
this week um original or the new one the original because my my my I I've seen
47:25
the original way back in the day not when it was first on I was too young but
47:30
somewhere in after that I had watched it and really liked it never saw the second
47:34
season never saw the prequel movie and certainly didn't watch the the modern
47:39
season um but you know playing you know just played Alan Wake and you know I
47:44
read a lot of Stephen King and I was kind of in the mood for that kind of
47:47
country Town horror yeah and so I watched season one Eight Episodes murder
47:53
mystery who SL off very good good good mystery good characterization good
47:59
setting good World building excellent season two completely different show um
48:04
Supernatural soap opera is how I describe it if I had to it it it is
48:10
garbage it is nothing like the first season if it wasn't that the characters
48:15
are still playing the same like act same actors playing the same characters you
48:19
would think this is not the same show are you gonna finish watching it or are
48:24
you tapping out I'm not gonna I'm tapping out I'm not going to watch this
48:27
and I in fact so I I watched the first episode I was like this is awful but
48:31
maybe it's just growing pains like maybe just I need to readjust to the to the
48:34
tone of this started the second and and like I stopped and I was like I don't
48:39
think I can do this and so then I went and watched a 40 minute
48:43
long uh summary of the second season because I thought maybe maybe I just
48:48
need to know what happens and then I can and I'm so glad I didn't watch it
48:52
because it's just [ __ ] garbage like just so many things under mind also you
48:56
find out who killed Laura Palmer in episode four of season two and then
49:01
there's like there's 20 episodes in that season so there's like 12 more episodes
49:06
or something after you've they've solved the mystery where they're just trying to
49:11
add other story elements but you already don't care and it looks like there's I'm
49:15
sure there's some good scenes in there and some good new characters and stuff
49:19
but it's just it just seems very silly sort of a weird count of episodes
49:25
for something back then cuz back then then everything was 26 episodes yeah so
49:29
I think I think they didn't expect the first season to go very well so they
49:34
just gave it a very very short season and then it went so well they just gave
49:37
it a huge season goahead for this and it just problem whereas yeah we don't
49:43
actually have a story for all that we had another eight episode story in our
49:48
heads and give it US 22 Episodes yeah yeah but instead of stringing it out
49:55
they just made those eight and then just made more phoned it in the rest and took
49:59
their check yeah really so yeah I'm I'm out I don't I don't give a [ __ ] what
50:05
happens in the prequel I don't give a [ __ ] what happens in the new one I'm
50:08
sort of happy like with streamings now how you they will just make up TV shows
50:13
for as long as they need to be now not Y the limited run series is my favorite I
50:19
think it's the best thing that's happened to TV yeah you don't have to
50:22
have Filler episodes because you got to make that 26 episode so you don't have
50:26
to the crap episode and there won't be like like Haunting of Hill House great
50:31
okay are we going to do season two no let's just let that guy make another
50:35
show okay so now he's making midnight mass oh that was great season two no
50:38
let's just let him make another show okay House of user great season two no
50:43
no need just make another show yep love it I haven't seen any of it but
50:50
I'm sure I will one day but that's how it should be yeah absolutely oh you Haven seen any
50:57
of those three shows started watching
51:01
and hatte it because I love who's in him did you watch any of midnight mass
51:07
no so that's the one where Rahul yeah proves that not he's not just a great
51:13
comedian he's a [ __ ] good actor like a good dramatic actor and I've always
51:18
own that and that's why he should be the next James Bond I would I'm 100% behind
51:23
that is this just us pushing has he mentioned that he wants to be James
51:26
respond pretty sure like if he had a said it would have yeah he would if he
51:31
got asked a question he would say yes but it is just us pushing through a lot
51:35
of people that were up for it are kind of too old now because they they let it
51:38
drag on but I don't think he's too old I think he's right in The Sweet Spot he's
51:42
at that perfect age yeah oh man we got to get a campaign happening we should
51:48
because he he can do the humor because I do want go back to that sort of campy
51:52
Bond yes oh he could do that man you
51:55
should he's so funny in um the the
51:59
recent one the house of user he's so funny in it yep and he's funny because
52:06
when he commits to Comedy it's taking it deadly it's not like um Adam Sandler or
52:12
J Cary where they're doing wacky [ __ ] he does it with such sincerity that it's
52:17
just hilarious yeah no we need to get this campaign going yeah all right let's
52:22
put him on the thumbnail this week as James Bond as James Bond yeah Rahul for
52:27
Bond y excellent name of this episode yeah yeah
52:34
yeah right what else we can fit something else in before we get to the
52:38
Afterparty I think yeah oh I wanted to uh to tell you something because last
52:44
week um you said when we're talking about the Oscars and you were saying
52:48
they've lost relevance and I don't disagree but you said I don't think
52:53
they're going to last long and uh almost as a response to that they're like [ __ ]
52:58
it we're adding more categories really so yeah so there's a new category in the
53:03
next Oscars best casting
53:09
what so there's going to be an award now for the casting agent who suggested What
53:15
actors to put in the movie now I guess having good actors in your movie with
53:21
good chemistry is is part of what makes a movie good yeah but
53:27
does anyone care do they deserve an award for it I don't know this isn't
53:32
helping it make it more relevant because this is another war that the public do
53:36
not care about no that's right yeah and look I'll I'll even go as far as saying
53:41
like even things like editing sound editing and all of that stuff no one
53:44
cares about them to the point where last year they put those on during the ad
53:48
breaks and didn't televise them and the people that were up for those Awards got
53:52
really shitty but but they were like nobody cares this is when every
53:56
everyone's going out to make a cup of tea anyway the only thing that people
54:00
actually like to watch they watch like people walking on a red carpet to see
54:03
what they're wearing and then they look at Best Actor best film and then went
54:07
done like yeah I could cut down the Oscars to 30 minutes that's right yeah
54:13
yeah and that's a TV 30 minutes with ads so that's 22 minutes yeah doesn't need
54:17
to go on for as long as it has yeah yeah
54:21
no this it's not going to
54:25
work sorry the Oscars it's it's on its way out I think they'll still do it
54:30
because I think I think they still are gonna want to Pat each other on the back
54:33
but I think they might stop televising it yeah they might doesn't need to be
54:39
the big production for that they put it on yeah it must cost them a fortune to
54:44
put this on each year too because also they get presents and stuff as well yeah
54:49
I think most of those are donated I'd like to get donated some of
54:53
those one of those B it's like worth thousands of oh yeah there's [ __ ] I was about to
54:58
say iPods showing my
55:01
age yeah it's like Tech g g gadgets and
55:06
like high-end perfumes and all the stuff that that they're rich they don't need
55:13
yeah and they don't care S one my way I'll care yeah that's right we'll talk
55:19
about it on the show yes send me anything and I'll talk about on the show
55:24
my daughter has started watching um uh I think I mentioned this briefly
55:30
last week she she stopped watching the shows she likes and she only wants to
55:34
watch YouTube versions of those shows so what are these like I don't so okay so
55:40
there's a couple of categories so number one the one that just was I was reminded
55:44
of in this conversation is people playing with toys and making up their
55:49
own episodes and it's kids doing it isn't it 5050
55:54
so so the the the better ones are the are kids doing it so it's kids playing
56:01
with toys making them talk of stuff the ones where adults do it are a little bit
56:05
sad because it's it's almost exclusively men you could tell that they're our age
56:12
or a bit older like it it's just it's just a bit sad right and just the St and
56:18
it's they just oh hello you know like it's just it's just there's something a
56:23
bit wrong about it um but these kids that do it seem I this is on YouTube
56:29
kids isn't it so
56:32
it's so there's yeah so the one that she's obsessed with at the moment is not
56:39
on YouTube kids because it's like M or PG rated which is you know how Peppa Pig
56:45
is quite rudimentary in its animation style I don't know if you've seen much
56:49
of it but it's it's like early I will admit I paid a Peppa Pig
56:54
game right okay yeah so because it's so
56:58
rudimentary it's easily emulated so people and I don't mean one channel I
57:03
mean a whole bunch of different people have made fake Peppa Pig episodes that
57:08
look like real episodes ex get taken down I don't know well I think parody
57:15
laws I think because they say this is a parody of of uh you know Peppa Pig and
57:21
you're allowed to you're allowed to parody at to a certain level
57:27
as long as you're not leading people to think that they're watching a real
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episode of Peppa Pig but there are zombie ones alien ones there's one
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that's an episode of squid games where the characters from Peppa Pig are in the
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squid games scenario getting murdered and all of this stuff but it looks like
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your daughter watching this well there's 50 that that one is is is is pretty tame
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there was so my daughter loves zombies and aliens and she's obsessed with
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watching and most of them are pretty tame but we watched one the other day
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where like Peppa Pig and Bluey I think got kidnapped by aliens and [ __ ]
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probed and [ __ ] and I was like this is going off I'm drawing the line at this
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drawing drawing the line oh yeah I just Googled zombie Peppa Pig and oh my God
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but it looks real right other than that that they would never have that in a
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Peppa Pig episode Peppa Pig zombies done by like this 14 million
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views so there was one see the zombies ones at least look
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you can tell they're fake cuz there zombies right we watched one the other
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day that just looked like a normal Peppa Pig episode except they got into a car
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crash and the mum died right mommy pig died and then Daddy Pig so they're all
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sad they [ __ ] there was a funeral then Daddy Pig remarried with Mrs rabbit
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which is another character in it and became the Stepmom but then her and
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Peppa would fight and they would never quite get on and there was nothing
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bizarre like no aliens and stuff like nothing to suggest this wasn't an
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episode other than this wouldn't possibly an
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episode that's
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okay yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of it
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yeah but I don't know this doesn't quite seem parody to
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me this just seems ripoff yes we're taking your characters and we're just
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going to re make our own stuff yeah well there's one that Peppa Pig is Spider-Man
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and so it's both it's both ripping off Peppa Pig and Spider-Man and it properly
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does the thing when she turns into it you see the DNA you know the DNA cracks
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and rejoins up and stuff like in the old Spider-Man and that all happens in it so
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I'm surprised they haven't been sued by Sony and by BBC like they're not doing
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this with Mickey Mouse that's for sure yeah yeah you'd have to be pretty ballsy
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to do that you can do it with steam Willie now yeah yeah yes you can within
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certain limitations um look there's something that popped into my head this week that
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