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- 0:46I feel like that's unusual. OK, the first story that I have
- 0:49for you guys today is that influencers are coming on to
- 0:53TikTok claiming that brands have been uninviting them from
- 0:58Coachella trips like 24 hours in advance.
- 1:02So Coachella weekend 1 is this weekend of course, and there's
- 1:06already been a bit of drama around the festival before it's
- 1:09even kicked off. 1st, I wanted to say back in March, there were
- 1:13actually quite a few influencers, specifically
- 1:16Australian influencers who were going viral and facing backlash
- 1:19for quote UN quote, begging for brands to take them to
- 1:22Coachella. And we didn't cover this.
- 1:25Honestly, I'm not really sure why, but this was definitely a
- 1:28thing quite a few weeks ago. So influencers like Sam Guggs,
- 1:31Bridget Sarik and Brock Velicini, we're all facing
- 1:35backlash because they were making these videos basically
- 1:38saying to brands like, can you please take me to Coachella?
- 1:40Like here's my proposal. I'm manifesting a free trip to
- 1:43Coachella with the brand. And some of them are making like
- 1:46full on series about this. Now.
- 1:49I wanted to say when we were prepping this episode, Annabelle
- 1:52was like, Oh my God, are you going to talk about Coachella?
- 1:53Can you please say on the pod, will somebody take us to
- 1:57Coachella? I was like, girl, Coachella
- 1:59starts tomorrow. It is literally like less than
- 2:0112 hours away basically at this point.
- 2:04And she was like, please, I was like, that's what the story is
- 2:06about, is about people begging to be sent to Coachella.
- 2:08And she was like, you know, though, like, I'm mentally
- 2:10unwell. Well, because Justin Bieber is
- 2:12headlining. Like, she has Bieber fever.
- 2:14Justin Bieber is her number one Beyoncé.
- 2:17Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande. Who else do you love?
- 2:22All the pop girlies. Yeah.
- 2:23She says Justin Bieber was, like, her first foray into true
- 2:26fandom. And she was like, please, can
- 2:28you say something on the pod? I was like, girl, it's a
- 2:30literally 12 hours away. I don't think you're getting a
- 2:32free trip to Coachella at this point.
- 2:36He's like, please say it. I need to manifest.
- 2:38So that's part of this story is that influencers are getting
- 2:42dragged for doing this. And Annabelle was asking me to
- 2:45do that on this podcast for you guys.
- 2:47OK, so I do understand why this type of content rubbed people
- 2:51the wrong way. But it definitely also is a
- 2:54trend right now for people to like jump on TikTok and ask the
- 2:57algorithm to like do its thing and help them achieve a specific
- 3:00goal or a specific dream. So even though it is very
- 3:04different for influencers to do this given, I think most of them
- 3:07could probably afford their own trip to Coachella.
- 3:10And also many of them have already been to Coachella.
- 3:13So it's not like a once in a lifetime like bucket list thing
- 3:16that they were asking for. I kind of see that type of
- 3:20content as almost like engagement farming for them more
- 3:23than them actually. Just like wanting a free trip to
- 3:26Coachella. I think it was them jumping on
- 3:28this trending style of content and seeing how much engagement
- 3:31they could get off the back of it.
- 3:32And obviously if they got a free trip to Coachella, and I'm sure
- 3:35some of them did, then you know that's a bonus.
- 3:37Anyways, now a few weeks later, it's seeming influencers are no
- 3:40longer begging to go to Coachella unless you're
- 3:43Annabelle, but instead they are posting videos claiming that
- 3:47they were invited and now have been uninvited to brand trips
- 3:52for Coachella super last minute. So Cathy, O'Brien, Taran, Lamb,
- 3:56Glow, Cortez, Yasmin, Marzielli, Aisha, Asan, Ramu are just a few
- 4:02of the influencers who are posting content talking about
- 4:05how they were uninvited from Coachella last minute.
- 4:08I'm not. Going to Coachella anymore?
- 4:09I literally found out yesterday I received this text message and
- 4:13yeah, let me just get into what's happened.
- 4:14I just been leaving for Coachella in literally.
- 4:16Two days and I just got a text saying we're not going anywhere.
- 4:19It's cancelled. Smiling so.
- 4:21That I don't. Cry, but this is literally
- 4:23insane. This is supposed to be my first
- 4:24year at Coachella, especially going with like an agency.
- 4:27And I was so excited because I was like, oh, I'm so fortunate
- 4:28that I get to go. Obviously now I'm not going.
- 4:30Oh, it's so sad. I literally have my suitcase
- 4:32already packed and now I'm going to have to unpack it.
- 4:34So I got invited to Coachella this year with a brand and then
- 4:37uninvited, and I already kind of made a video talking about this,
- 4:41but Long story short, they emailed me.
- 4:43I was so excited. I responded, I was like, Oh my
- 4:45God, I can't wait. I'm so excited.
- 4:46I had one question about the whole plus one situation and
- 4:49then they didn't answer my question.
- 4:50And then we kept following up like, hey, what's going on?
- 4:53And then three days later they were like, actually you're not
- 4:56invited anymore. And I was like.
- 5:00I was packing to go to Coachella this morning and on my for you
- 5:03page there's just an abundance of videos of girls being like I
- 5:06can't believe like this brand randomly uninvited me last
- 5:09minute like Airbnb cancellations.
- 5:12I'm thinking like Oh my God I can't believe like this is
- 5:15happening. Like this is so insane.
- 5:16I can't believe people are doing this.
- 5:19Then I get a text from my manager I'm not going to
- 5:21Coachella anymore of the birthday.
- 5:23Has done we're not going Coachella.
- 5:26Do I laugh or do I cry? I used to do a story time and
- 5:29you guys need to tag brands because I still want to go.
- 5:32I've lost out on so much money bought outfits, got my hair
- 5:36done, bought my Ester to enter America.
- 5:39Everything is just a joke. So unprofessional, bad
- 5:43communication. It's literally in two days.
- 5:45Obviously there's week 1 and Week 2, but please, any brands
- 5:49you guys that know that go in, tag them.
- 5:51I knew it was too good to be. True, there are honestly
- 5:53countless videos out there and at first I was like is this just
- 5:57more engagement farming? Because as we know, the Internet
- 6:01loves to support someone when they feel like they have been
- 6:04fucked over by a brand or a corporation.
- 6:07However, after watching all of these videos, I actually do
- 6:09believe they're real. Most of them show emails and
- 6:12different receipts to really like prove that this happened
- 6:15and that they were in fact invited and then uninvited.
- 6:19And also quite a few of them have almost identical stories
- 6:22with almost identical emails and messages, and presumably these
- 6:26ones that are similar are from the same agency.
- 6:29OK, so how did this happen? As someone who is in the media
- 6:33industry and works alongside brands and PRS all at the same
- 6:37time, I have a few theories, But I think mostly like the
- 6:41overarching thing that I think is happening here is that the PR
- 6:45industry is incredibly overworked, understaffed, and
- 6:49underpaid. PR agencies are essentially like
- 6:52the middle men between their clients who are the brands who,
- 6:56I mean, I have never worked NPR, but I work alongside many PRS,
- 7:00like I said, and I know that there's kind of like this
- 7:03running thing in the industry where they really feel like
- 7:05every client thinks that they're their only client.
- 7:07So I think brands, especially given how big some of these
- 7:10retainers are that they're paying, like, you know, they
- 7:12demand a lot. They expect a lot from the
- 7:14agencies that they're paying. So I think there's a lot of
- 7:17pressure on the brand side. And then you're like the
- 7:19middleman between the brand and the talent.
- 7:22And these talent, you know, sometimes they are celebrities,
- 7:25sometimes they're really famous influencers, even if they're not
- 7:28super famous, you know, being a creator who is getting flown to
- 7:32Coachella, like, you probably have some amount of clout, OK?
- 7:35So you have a big personality. There's probably a lot of ego
- 7:37involved and also a lot of expectations on their side.
- 7:40And I think it's just easy for things to fall through the
- 7:44cracks. And also as somebody who is
- 7:46working alongside like agencies and brands all the time, I also
- 7:49know that brands can change their minds on like how they
- 7:52spend their budgets like that. And it's not always up to the
- 7:55marketing manager that you're dealing with directly.
- 7:57Like for example, we had a deal, like a six figure deal that was
- 8:01going to go ahead this year and it got cut more than in half
- 8:06literally the day before it was supposed to be signed because
- 8:11the brand here locally was informed by Global that they
- 8:14were doing this giant campaign this year.
- 8:16And globally, everybody needed to allocate some of their
- 8:19budget, their local budget, the local marketing budget to
- 8:22amplify that campaign this year. And that was like completely out
- 8:25of their hands. And we were literally like a day
- 8:27away from signing this contract. So I know how quickly things can
- 8:30change. Like we had the contracts out,
- 8:32you know, so I know how quickly things can change and it is so
- 8:35often out of, you know, the hands of like the local team or
- 8:38the people that you're actually directly dealing with.
- 8:40I also think it's possible that when the lineup was announced
- 8:44and it was going to be Justin Bieber, like I know.
- 8:46So that's a huge poll for a lot of people.
- 8:48Like I know the headliners always supposed to be a huge
- 8:50poll, but like that's a huge poll for a lot of people.
- 8:52So I think it's possible that bigger influencers who maybe had
- 8:56an RSVP DS or maybe had said no, decided to say yes.
- 9:00And of course, like a brand and agency, it's not fair, but
- 9:03they're going to probably prioritize guys bigger
- 9:06influencers because that that's the whole point of taking
- 9:08influencers to Coachella is getting that reach.
- 9:10And I also think it's possible that something that we see in
- 9:15media content partnerships on our end has happened.
- 9:18So sometimes we will be at like proposal stage with a brand and
- 9:22to get it over the line, the agency will suggest that we put
- 9:25together like an interview list. So like an example of who we
- 9:28might interview for this miniseries.
- 9:30Or sometimes they even get you to do like mock up content so
- 9:33they can like see what it's going to look like or how it
- 9:36will go. So I think it's possible that in
- 9:38this case, maybe the agency was trying to get the concept of a
- 9:42Coachella brand trip over the line with their client and to
- 9:45prove the ROI. You know, their client said, OK,
- 9:48well, like who will come? And so they had to reach out to
- 9:50the influencers to get an idea of who would say yes, their
- 9:54availability, you know what they were open to posting.
- 9:57Again, this is not necessarily like ethical, but I'm thinking
- 9:59just like from my personal experience running a media
- 10:02brand, it's obviously different than being like an influencer.
- 10:04But I'm thinking this is possibly what might have
- 10:07happened because it sometimes happens to us in our industry as
- 10:09well. And then again, it's possible
- 10:12that too many people said yes, or the client changed their mind
- 10:15last minute and said, you know, we actually don't really want to
- 10:17go ahead with this. But it seemed on the talent side
- 10:20like everything was getting locked in when really it was
- 10:23actually the agency, like trying to get this idea over the line
- 10:27for them. But I know that can't be for all
- 10:29of these stories because some of them did have contracts in
- 10:31place. Some of these influencers said
- 10:33they had signed contracts. But if you guys are in the
- 10:35industry, let me know what you guys think happened here.
- 10:37Those are just like my theories. I have seen a lot of PR people
- 10:40in the comments being like, this is like the ultimate no go.
- 10:45Like if you accidentally invite someone, if you invite too many
- 10:48people, if you tell someone they can have a plus one and then
- 10:50they actually can't, whatever it is, you can never renege that.
- 10:54Like you can never go back on your word.
- 10:57They're going to Coachella. They might have two followers
- 11:00and they were accidentally invited.
- 11:01They're going to Coachella. You do not uninvite.
- 11:04All right, The next word that I have for you guys today is Julia
- 11:08Fox has defended influencer red carpet interviews in a new
- 11:13statement. OK, so we didn't talk about this
- 11:16on Mini. I also don't know why we didn't
- 11:18talk about this similar to the Coachella stuff.
- 11:20I can't really remember. Oh, maybe it was the week that
- 11:22we were off. Maybe it happened that week,
- 11:24actually. But I know high stakes covered
- 11:26this. But last month, Jake Shane, you
- 11:29know, podcaster Sofia Richie's BFF, he was copping some
- 11:32backlash after he landed an opportunity to do red carpet
- 11:35interviews at the Vanity Fair Oscars after party red carpet.
- 11:40And a few of these interviews went viral because the questions
- 11:43that he was asking came off as out of place, tone deaf,
- 11:46awkward. There was a lot of feedback that
- 11:48instead of asking about the actual event or the projects
- 11:52people were there for, he was making these, like, random
- 11:54comments that didn't really land and came off as quite out of
- 11:58touch. So one of these moments that
- 12:00really kind of kicked off the backlash was when he asked Julia
- 12:03Fox about the film If I Had legs, I'd Kick You.
- 12:06She was trying to explain why she loved it.
- 12:08And he was just like interrupting her constantly
- 12:12saying did you think the kid was annoying?
- 12:14If I. Had legs, I'd kick you.
- 12:15Wow, like every mother's story, you know, especially the kid was
- 12:20annoying. No, I can't.
- 12:23Yeah. You know, that kid was so damn
- 12:26annoying. But she had a shoes.
- 12:28And it's like, that's the thing. I think the kid was annoying
- 12:30because of mom. Can I tell you something?
- 12:32It's it's it's not that it's the mother's fault or the child's
- 12:35worth. It's society's fault.
- 12:36It sets mothers up to fail, You know, even the fact that, like,
- 12:40school gets out at 3:00, but most jobs are done at 5 or 6.
- 12:43Like, like they all those little things are so positioned to just
- 12:49not, are not conducive to mothering, if that makes sense,
- 12:53you know, And it's Julia Fox for president.
- 12:55Yeah. OK.
- 12:56I feel like we've dragged this on a little bit and there's a
- 12:58whole bit. I want to talk.
- 12:59Julia Fox for president. I mean if you are, I just want
- 13:01to take a break like I can take. This clip made Julia Fox look so
- 13:06good. Everyone was like, Oh my God,
- 13:07she handled this so gracefully and she really had such a great
- 13:11answer. But this backlash extended
- 13:14beyond social media. So Variety actually wrote, I
- 13:19wouldn't say it was like a hit piece, but they wrote a not so
- 13:22flattering article about the entire controversy.
- 13:26And it was about how this whole situation proved, like the Jake
- 13:30Shane interviews proved, that influencers should not be doing
- 13:34red carpet reporting. Now since Julia Fox interview
- 13:37was kind of like the catalyst of this piece, I guess she was
- 13:39asked about that take at the Fashion Trust US red carpet
- 13:43today and this is what she said. I mean.
- 13:47It's like, listen, I I'd understand, like influencers in
- 13:50an emergency room doing surgery, but it's like a red carpet,
- 13:53like, who cares? Let the influencers in.
- 13:55Let them in. Yeah, I'm, I don't like it's,
- 13:59it's not that serious. Period.
- 14:01Again, a classy queen. I understand what she's saying
- 14:06here. I I think there's mixed opinions
- 14:08on that response. I've seen people in the comments
- 14:10be like, you know, journalists trained for like at least four
- 14:13years. This is probably one of the more
- 14:14like glamorous parts of their job, something that they get
- 14:17excited to do with like a fun part of their job.
- 14:19So, you know, it does feel like unfair that, I don't know,
- 14:23influencers get to do this instead.
- 14:25And that probably is true to an extent.
- 14:27We're in a bit of a different situation here in Australia.
- 14:29It's pretty rare, I would say, for a media outlet to contract
- 14:34red carpet interviewing out to like a personality or an
- 14:37influencer because I think there's so little money here.
- 14:41There's just not the budgets for that.
- 14:43I haven't, as far as I know, been on a red carpet where an
- 14:45influencer is interviewing. That's not true.
- 14:48I think maybe one or two of like the youth media brands have
- 14:52contracted influencers or like creators to do red carpets that
- 14:56I've been on. But typically it is like an in
- 14:59house journalist reporter. And there are actually a lot of
- 15:02brands and social media companies that will do that.
- 15:04Like, so for example, when I was at the TikTok Awards, beside us
- 15:07were two people doing red carpet coverage for Uber Eats because
- 15:11Uber Eats was one of the major sponsors.
- 15:13And it was like a creator who was contracted by Uber Eats to
- 15:16do like the red carpet interviews.
- 15:18So that will happen more here. Where I stand on this is I
- 15:21understand why people are like, please bring back journalists to
- 15:24the red carpet. You know when you watch even
- 15:27like a Ryan Seacrest, you know, when you watch kind of the more
- 15:30old school red carpet coverage, entertainment red carpet
- 15:34coverage, you can really spot how skilled those people are
- 15:39compared to what we see on the red carpet a lot of the Times
- 15:42Now. However, when it comes to like
- 15:43the Jake Shane situation, it was actually the Oscars, like Vanity
- 15:47Fair, Oscars after party red carpet, like there were three
- 15:52steps removed from like the actual Oscars red carpet
- 15:55situation. And I think in general, no
- 15:58matter how we feel about it, this is like the direction of
- 16:00the world. Like this is the way of the
- 16:01world. Not every influencer is cut out
- 16:03for that role, but we actually have seen quite a lot of
- 16:06influencers who are amazing in these positions, like Teffi, for
- 16:09example, Drewafwallow, Brittany Broski, Like there are examples
- 16:13that we have of creators who are doing this well.
- 16:17Also, Quen Blackwell, who was on the red carpet with Jake Shane,
- 16:20she did make a video about this and she was like, it was
- 16:22supposed to be silly and funny. And it was a live stream too.
- 16:25So you really need to like capture the audience and keep
- 16:27them engaged in a live stream. I didn't agree with how he went
- 16:29about his questions and his coverage, his reporting on the
- 16:32red carpet. But I do think there is some
- 16:35nuance lost in this conversation.
- 16:38It's not just like journalist versus influencer on the exact
- 16:42same level of red carpet, right? Like, there's various tears to
- 16:45this, and there's various reasons why these media outlets
- 16:49are choosing to contract influencers.
- 16:52They need the eyeballs, OK? We keep hearing journalism is
- 16:55dying. Media is dying.
- 16:57Who's going to save it? Jake Shane.
- 17:00OK, And the last word that I have for you guys today is I
- 17:04need to talk about the Euphoria premiere.
- 17:06It happened yesterday. Everyone is talking about it and
- 17:10Euphoria has been such a cultural moment since it first
- 17:13aired back in 2019. So every time something comes
- 17:16out about it, there is just like so much discourse.
- 17:18OK so season 2 came out in 2022. This is giving Severance.
- 17:22Like, this is what I'm worried is going to keep happening with
- 17:24Severance, where it's like literally five years between
- 17:27seasons. I can't.
- 17:29Severance is like my number one. I think about it all the time.
- 17:32I watch every single video essay that I can about it.
- 17:35I eat that shit up. I am so desperate for a new
- 17:39season and I feel like we're not going to get one until like 2027
- 17:42at least 'cause I think they're only just starting to film in
- 17:44like July. OK?
- 17:45This, this story is not about Severance, it's about Euphoria.
- 17:49Euphoria Season 2 came out in 2022 and since then Sam Levenson
- 17:53who is the showrunner, writer, and director has found himself
- 17:56in controversy, particularly with the release of The Idol,
- 18:00which is a show featuring Lily Rose Depp about the dark side of
- 18:04being a pop star. It was heavily criticized for
- 18:06over sexualizing the cast and fetishizing trauma and porn.
- 18:10Also, fun fact, people tell me all the time that I look like
- 18:13Lily Rose Depp. OK, so at the time, social media
- 18:16users were thinking about boycotting season 3 of Euphoria,
- 18:20but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.
- 18:22I think that discourse, cuz it was like so long ago, has just
- 18:24kind of died. Annabelle and I were talking
- 18:26about this and we're like, have we seen any of that discourse
- 18:28anymore? Like with kind of the talk about
- 18:31the premiere and like what's been going on?
- 18:32And no, So I don't know. I don't know if that discourse
- 18:35has died. I don't know if that take has
- 18:36died. I don't know if people have just
- 18:37forgotten, but people are not boycotting it as far as we can
- 18:40tell. OK, so a couple moments from the
- 18:42premiere seems to be dominating the online discourse, but
- 18:45Zendaya's attendance is probably the most significant fans of the
- 18:49show. We're actually not convinced
- 18:50that Zendaya would attend at all, even though she is the
- 18:53show's lead. Her star has risen significantly
- 18:56over the years, and, you know, she's just been busy.
- 18:59In 2026, she also apparently got married.
- 19:02As we know the show, the cast, there's so much controversy
- 19:05around them. So the affiliation is less than
- 19:08positive for somebody as a list as Zendaya.
- 19:12Throughout the filming and production, there were also
- 19:14rumors floating around that Sydney Sweeney and Zendaya had
- 19:17beef. Some reports suggested that the
- 19:19tension between the two actors came from different political
- 19:22views, especially since Sydney has seemingly embraced
- 19:25conservatism. I could never say that word.
- 19:27Conservatism, conserve. I always want to say
- 19:31conservativism. Conservatism.
- 19:35How do I say it? Conservatism.
- 19:39Meanwhile, other reports contend that it was over Tom Holland.
- 19:43So tabloids have published articles alleging that Sydney
- 19:46had the hots for Tom and was flirty with him when he came to
- 19:50visit the set and quote UN quote.
- 19:52Insider told The Sun quote Euphoria's bosses are all too
- 19:56aware the pair do not get along. There were tensions way back.
- 19:59Their paths barely crossed during the making of Season 3.
- 20:02During the press tour, any interactions between the pair
- 20:05were being kept to a minimum to avoid any awkward encounters on
- 20:08camera. There is a complete ban on
- 20:10journalists asking about tensions between Zendaya and
- 20:13Sydney. OK, obviously we will never
- 20:15actually know what happened here, but it is worth mentioning
- 20:18that the tabloids also like to pit women against each other.
- 20:21And ultimately heighten the tension for clicks and traffic.
- 20:24So I guess take that with a grain of salt.
- 20:27Having said that, Zendaya and Sydney both attended the
- 20:30premiere. However, there have been reports
- 20:31alleging that Zendaya was late to the carpet and also skipped
- 20:34the cast official after party at Chateau Marmont.
- 20:37Some reports, basing their accounts on attendees, also
- 20:40alleged that Zendaya didn't stay to watch the episode, leaving
- 20:44without speaking to the press. 1 TikTok by Metro Entertainment
- 20:47made this claim and has accumulated 6.5 million views.
- 20:51Commenters are split. Many are sympathetic to Zendaya,
- 20:54noting how busy her schedule is with the drama and how Euphoria
- 20:57is the quote least important project in her schedule.
- 21:00I agree with that. Other commenters have described
- 21:03this alleged behavior as unprofessional and rude.
- 21:06However, again, it should be noted take this with a grain of
- 21:09salt because there do seem to be clips of Zendaya inside the
- 21:11event despite many claiming that she left after taking photos.
- 21:15I feel like I have never heard in Zendaya's what?
- 21:19How long has she been in entertainment?
- 21:20Like over 10 years, over a decade, I have never heard of
- 21:23her ever being described as unprofessional and rude.
- 21:28And I know that these commenters are saying that that behavior
- 21:30would be unprofessional and rude, but I do not believe that
- 21:34she would do anything around her career that's unprofessional or
- 21:37rude. Maybe I'm just being a Zendaya
- 21:39apologist, but that's my take on that.
- 21:41Aside from Zendaya, though, other cast members are making
- 21:44headlines, specifically Alexa Demi and Sydney Sweeney.
- 21:47Many fans of the show were excited to see Alexa Demi attend
- 21:50the premiere. She holds this like unique place
- 21:53in pop culture where Jen Zed continues to take inspiration
- 21:56from her and talk about her even though she is relatively
- 21:59private. So memes have now started
- 22:01circulating that this is like the last time that we'll ever
- 22:03see Alexa Demi because she never goes out, she is never in the
- 22:08public eye. Meanwhile, social media users
- 22:10were surprised to see Sydney Sweeney bring her boyfriend
- 22:14Scooter Braun to the premiere. The two didn't walk the red
- 22:17carpet together, but they have been romantically linked since
- 22:20September of last year. Now tick tocks of the pair
- 22:22sharing a kiss inside the event have made the rounds and the
- 22:26reaction on social media has been exactly what you would
- 22:30expect. It is crazy because Sydney
- 22:33Sweeney and Scooter Braun are two of possibly like the most
- 22:36hated people in Hollywood and so for them to get together is kind
- 22:40of wild. Speaking of Sydney Sweeney,
- 22:42Sierra Miller from Summer House spoke to the actress on the red
- 22:46carpet in like a little interview Vox pop moment about
- 22:49stealing your friend's ex-boyfriend and what is the
- 22:52correct next move. So Sierra was obviously
- 22:55referring to Cassie stealing her best friend's boyfriend in the
- 22:58show. However, as we know if we are
- 23:01Bravo fans, Sierra was also probably referring to Amanda
- 23:05stealing West. I mean, if you steal your
- 23:08friend's ex-boyfriend. It's it's not good.
- 23:11What? Do you think is the next step?
- 23:13I honestly, I feel like you ought to get married.
- 23:16I mean, I would hope so. You got to make it worth that.
- 23:19Make it worth something that's just worth too much pain.
- 23:23The parallels of that situation did not go unnoticed by the
- 23:26fans. And for those of you guys that
- 23:28are Bravo fans and really encouraged us to do a Patreon
- 23:31episode about it, I'm going to do that right after this.
- 23:34Sean is coming to the office and we are going to be recording a
- 23:37summer house breakdown episode about everything going on.
- 23:40And Sean has no idea what's going on.
- 23:41OK? So it's going to be like me
- 23:43recounting everything to him and getting his reaction.
- 23:46Please guys, that's it for mini scroll today.
- 23:48Thank you so much for listening. I love you guys.
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