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EPISODE 48: To Spy or Not to Spy: AirTags, Nanny Cams, and Trust Issues · It's Mom O'Clock

• 0:01
  Speaker A: Hello.
• 0:02
  Speaker B: You guys, stop. Isn't Mom o' clock yet? I'm going crazy.
• 0:08
  Speaker A: Heck, yeah. It's Mama Clark somewhere. All right, well, we're back. We're back.
• 0:17
  Speaker B: It's Mama Clock.
• 0:17
  Speaker A: It's a new day.
• 0:18
  Speaker B: New day, new outfit. Here we are. I just have to say. Okay, so our new studio is down the shore.
• 0:25
  Speaker A: Would you consider this down the shore?
• 0:26
  Speaker B: Yes, for me, it's down the shore. Exit 98. I have never felt more free driving down the fucking parkway, Garden State. Windows down, music blasting, no traffic, no kids in the car. I felt like I was 17 again.
• 0:39
  Speaker A: I know.
• 0:40
  Speaker B: I was like, I could get used to this.
• 0:41
  Speaker A: On a beautiful Wednesday, on a beautiful day.
• 0:44
  Speaker B: And, like, I can't remember the last time that I drove Parkway south without my kids.
• 0:48
  Speaker A: Agreed.
• 0:48
  Speaker B: And now we're gonna do it all the time.
• 0:50
  Speaker A: Yeah, every week.
• 0:51
  Speaker B: And can we also just go to the beach after this?
• 0:53
  Speaker A: I was gonna say we should grab lunch. You have to be a mom after this.
• 0:56
  Speaker B: I have to go pick up my kids.
• 0:57
  Speaker A: But, like, I know. Didn't you feel like you were, like, ready?
• 1:00
  Speaker B: I felt, like, free and like the world is my oyster.
• 1:03
  Speaker A: Like, you feel like when you roll down your windows, play some music, like people are watching, and you're like. You love that energy. You just feel like.
• 1:09
  Speaker B: And it's just like a time is crazy because I swear to God, I closed my eyes and I felt like I was 17, driving to the boardwalk, about to meet my friends, and I'm a 34.
• 1:19
  Speaker A: Windows down, blasting, like, showing off.
• 1:20
  Speaker B: Yeah. And then I just looked in my rear view. There's three car seats in the back seat.
• 1:24
  Speaker A: Literally three.
• 1:25
  Speaker B: You should probably turn down your music. I know.
• 1:27
  Speaker A: I'm, like, so paying attention to where I was going today. I didn't get to enjoy the vibe, but I did get a little excited when you just mentioned it.
• 1:32
  Speaker B: Yeah, it was so fun.
• 1:34
  Speaker A: Well, I'm so excited. Welcome back to Mama Clock. We're here in the flesh, and we're gonna talk some shit. I'm gonna start with my story.
• 1:42
  Speaker B: Okay, fine.
• 1:43
  Speaker A: Okay. We're talking some shit about cameras in the house. Now, let me just start by saying.
• 1:50
  Speaker B: Saying there's no better detective than a mother.
• 1:53
  Speaker A: No, None. I mean, I was a good detective back in the day. Now that I'm a mother, forget it. So I feel a little more lively right now.
• 2:02
  Speaker B: Or I think I'm less nervous. The beta blocker kicked in.
• 2:08
  Speaker A: Stop. Okay, so I. What was I saying?
• 2:14
  Speaker B: Your story. You were walking down the street, so
• 2:16
  Speaker A: we're talking all Things. Cameras today. And what I mean by that is we're both moms, obviously, and we both have people in and out of our house. House. But not only that, we have children that need to be spied on. Okay, so with that being said, I'm gonna start by telling a little story.
• 2:32
  Speaker B: Please do.
• 2:33
  Speaker A: So I was having a lovely walk with my son and my dog, and I do the same walk every day, and I walked past a mom with three children every day. And we kind of just wave to each other. We don't ever stop because we're always on opposite sides of the street.
• 2:46
  Speaker B: Right.
• 2:47
  Speaker A: And I'm always thinking, that's the mom, and those are her three ducklings.
• 2:50
  Speaker B: Right?
• 2:51
  Speaker A: It's the nanny and her three ducklings. Okay. So she stopped me, which she never does before, and she's like, wait, hi. Did you ever find a babysitter? And I'm like, excuse me? She's like, I saw your posts in the Facebook group. I don't know how she put two and two together, but she.
• 3:06
  Speaker B: Well, she saw your face and she saw your post.
• 3:07
  Speaker A: Yeah, I guess. And you have a distinct look, you know, I guess. Eyebrows. So I go, yeah, I actually did find a babysitter. We just hired her. She's like, oh, my God, I'm so happy for you. Because, you know, my daughter, she's getting into the whole spiel, and I'm like, yeah, I'm so happy. I'm so excited for her. You know, I did her references. I had an interview. She came and watched my son. We have mutuals, meaning her dad is a member at the country club my husband's a member at. So I just felt good about it. One and done. Boom. I couldn't do the Care dot com. I couldn't do the nanny lane, so I did the Facebook.
• 3:39
  Speaker B: You got lucky.
• 3:40
  Speaker A: Got lucky. So she gets to talking, and she's like, you need cameras in your house? And I go, oh, my God, I'm. It's so crazy you say that. Because it was a thought in my head. Now, let me. Let me say. Start by saying I. I couldn't say the word preface. You preface.
• 3:54
  Speaker B: You're just not a camera girl.
• 3:56
  Speaker A: I'm just not a camera.
• 3:57
  Speaker B: It's insane that you're not the camera girl.
• 3:58
  Speaker A: I know. It's insane. So I have no cameras in my house. I don't even have a camera in my son's room. What I do have is those rinky dink ones from Amazon that I tug into the wall with a monitor in his room that's all I had. I did get the nanit. Is that what it's called? Yeah, I got all.
• 4:12
  Speaker B: You got all the things.
• 4:13
  Speaker A: But I never used it, never plugged it in. So I have no cameras. And she was like, you need cameras? And I'm like, do I need cameras? She's like, you need cameras in every room besides the bathrooms. And I was like, really? And she's like, you. She was going, you need cameras. Let me tell you why. And I was like, tell me, sis. Tell me. And she has these three ducklings with her, too. She goes, I started working for this family five years ago. And when I saw first, she's like, it's not just for the kids. She said to me, right? It's for the babysitters and the nannies. And what I mean by that? Not stalking them. And she gave me this example. She goes, I started working for this family, and I was watching their daughter who was standing in front of her. And she said, she. The daughter, who must have been like, three or four at the time, told her parents that the nanny spanked her. And the nanny was like, I did not do that. And the parents. Obviously, as a parent, you're gonna believe your kids, right? So the nanny was like, roll the fucking tape.
• 5:09
  Speaker B: I'll say the darndest things.
• 5:10
  Speaker A: Darndest. So the nanny was like, roll the tapes.
• 5:13
  Speaker B: And.
• 5:13
  Speaker A: And she rolled the tapes. The parents rolled the tapes. And there's no spanking on the tape. So the toddler obviously was fibbing, right? So with that being said, she was like, that saved my life, my job, my reputation, my career. And not only that, if, like, the parents, the mom and dad tell me something, and then the nanny's like, you didn't say that. Check the tapes. So stuff like that. And then obviously, the normal stuff, watching your kids play.
• 5:40
  Speaker B: Play.
• 5:40
  Speaker A: Watching them sleep, where are they? You can't find them. Missing remotes. You can't find the remote. You check the camera like your kid hides the remote, right? So now I'm like, all right, I feel like I have to put cameras in my house. But let me just say something. I feel uncomfortable having cameras in my house. 1. I don't want people to think I'm watching them. I don't want the babysitter to think I'm watching her. I hate that feeling. It's not even about making sure. I just don't want you to feel uncomfortable.
• 6:06
  Speaker B: Yeah, but if you have nothing to hide, there's no.
• 6:09
  Speaker A: Exactly. So also, she told me stories like, you know, a nanny was Hired. She said she didn't drink or smoke. Meanwhile she's smoking and drinking. Then another thing was the nanny left and ran to the food store and came back and.
• 6:22
  Speaker B: And left the kid. Yeah.
• 6:23
  Speaker A: And the. And the parents left the kid? Yes, the parents.
• 6:26
  Speaker B: And left the kid.
• 6:26
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 6:27
  Speaker B: In the house alone?
• 6:27
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 6:28
  Speaker B: While she's supposed to be babysitting.
• 6:29
  Speaker A: Yes, that's what I'm saying. So the camera showed her walking out the front door, which I have a camera on my front door, obviously.
• 6:35
  Speaker B: Right.
• 6:37
  Speaker A: And the nanny said to the parent, well, she was sleeping, she wasn't gonna wake up. So I ran to the store real quick.
• 6:42
  Speaker B: Only in my dreams I would do that. I wanna do it so bad. The school my kids go to is six minutes from my house. And sometimes Rocco is sleeping. Sleeping when I have to go pick them up. I know, I know so badly in my bones. I want to just leave him in the crib where he's safe and go pick up the kids. But I would never, cuz I have my mom in the back of my head.
• 7:03
  Speaker A: I just said to Michael the other. I know. I just said to Michael the other day, if you just ran to the butcher two minutes away, picked up our meat, cuz he was home, I wasn't home. I wanted the chicken, we needed it quickly. He's asleep, he won't even. Nobody lock the door. I could never.
• 7:19
  Speaker B: My neighbors would do that. I. I mean, some people would. I think one of my girlfriends has done it like literally one time running down the street.
• 7:25
  Speaker A: I could never consciously do that. But anyway, cameras in the house. Apparently it needs to be. And now I have a new babysitter who I adore so much. But we're thinking about putting the cameras in like one in the kitchen, one here. So I guess. Tell me your thoughts.
• 7:39
  Speaker B: I have cameras.
• 7:39
  Speaker A: You have cameras everywhere?
• 7:40
  Speaker B: I have cameras everywhere. Knox in my house. No, but the reason why I have cameras is so now it's kind of like a different reason, to be honest with you.
• 7:48
  Speaker A: Tell me, from back in the day when you first had a kid, when you had Joey, did you put cameras in?
• 7:52
  Speaker B: Yes, but we had, I had. We have the NEST system. So we have cameras. Like there'd be a camera right there in our. In the playroom, in the basement, in all the kids bedrooms. Not like in the comm. Not in the, like the living room.
• 8:05
  Speaker A: There's not one in the room?
• 8:06
  Speaker B: No, there's not one in the living room. We have obviously one in the front door. The playground outside in the backyard. So we have like about six or seven cameras.
• 8:15
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 8:15
  Speaker B: And. But now it's better to have cameras. Actually, I have to ask the moms out there, when do you stop putting cameras in your kids bedrooms? Like, when does it get like, creepy? Like, I have a five year old now and it's like, obviously he's five, he's not doing anything, but like, when is the cat, like, okay, like, we should probably take the camera out and give them privacy, right? But like, Joe and I use our camera so much because like, if we're fucking in the bedroom and like I have all the screens up, I'm like. Because my kids come into our bed all the time, they get out of there. So like, the cameras have saved us so many times where we like, see, oh, she's coming out of her crib right now. Like, quickly stop. So the cameras like could save you in that sense. And also like my, my nanny who's there, like, she knows the cameras are there and like, I'll like check them and I'll be like, oh, did she put them down for a nap? Or like my mom, My mom is always babysitting. I have the funniest video.
• 9:06
  Speaker A: She fell or something.
• 9:07
  Speaker B: No. Well, two, two things. Okay, I have one video. I think it was Joey. He was so little and she was bending over to put him in the crib and like, she didn't. My mom is like so like nervous. Like she just, she wanted to like completely put him down and it was when the crib was like lowered. Lowered. She put him down and fell straight into the crib.
• 9:27
  Speaker A: She did.
• 9:27
  Speaker B: Oh, she did. She fell straight in. Because she was leaning over so much. Her little legs were like dangling. She's like a five foot woman. It was the. I have the video, but then another video. I have to show you it. I have to show you it right now.
• 9:37
  Speaker A: Right now.
• 9:38
  Speaker B: Right now.
• 9:39
  Speaker A: Wait, so you put cameras in as soon as you had your first.
• 9:42
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, cameras were in. Cameras.
• 9:45
  Speaker A: I don't even have a baby camera. Like, that's.
• 9:47
  Speaker B: You need a baby. But like, how do you know? Like, what about when he's like awake?
• 9:51
  Speaker A: I hear him on the monitor. I have a monitor.
• 9:53
  Speaker B: This video, I'm gonna make our editor show the world when they can. But this is my mom. Joey went in. Joey was in a phase where she had to put him to bed in a full blown dinosaur blow up costume.
• 10:07
  Speaker A: She had to.
• 10:07
  Speaker B: She had to put on a dinosaur, full blown air, air, air pack, dinosaur thing. This is her putting Joey to bed.
• 10:17
  Speaker A: Hold the phone.
• 10:18
  Speaker B: She's in the Dinosaur. And I see this on camera. And you're like, what the fuck is this woman doing?
• 10:27
  Speaker A: This is.
• 10:28
  Speaker B: And she's hitting the sound machine. It's pitch black in the room. She's hitting the sound machine in a dino costume because he made her do it. This was months and months. She had to do this.
• 10:38
  Speaker A: She's hitting the sound machine.
• 10:39
  Speaker B: She's hitting the sound machine. And then she puts him in. So have cameras. You'll catch funny things.
• 10:46
  Speaker A: Wait, this is hilarious. She did not put this dinosaur costume on. I just feel like it's such an invasion of privacy. But it does protect your home.
• 10:55
  Speaker B: It protects. I mean, thank God for our camera and our front door. Like, we see shit. Like, I don't know how kids.
• 11:00
  Speaker A: Front door is necessary because that's the outside.
• 11:02
  Speaker B: But I actually feel bad for our generation of children because, like, they're not gonna be able to sneak out. We have alarms, we have NEST cameras.
• 11:09
  Speaker A: We have no cameras in my house.
• 11:10
  Speaker B: No. Like, I used to sneak out in the, like the back door. There was no cameras. There was nothing. I would sneak into Joey's room.
• 11:16
  Speaker A: I don't even have a front door camera. My parents old house, there was never even a front door camera.
• 11:19
  Speaker B: How are kids gonna get away with anything? How are they gonna. They're not gonna be able to play hooky. They're not gonna be able to do anything because it's just. Look at our phone. And we can see. What the fuck? If they're breathing.
• 11:28
  Speaker A: Oh, my God.
• 11:29
  Speaker B: Sad. I think I might have a no camera. I think I wanna live in the 90s.
• 11:34
  Speaker A: I mean, that's how we grew up.
• 11:35
  Speaker B: But my mom. So I was asking my mom before we did this episode, I was like, she was such a. She's a nervous grandma. She was a nervous mom. But like, growing up, you didn't have a camera. So, like, how did you survive? Like, if you went out. She was like, she didn't leave us. She never left.
• 11:50
  Speaker A: She's like, I never left.
• 11:51
  Speaker B: She was like, I didn't leave. But if she did. Like, they had intercom. Like, they had like intercom.
• 11:57
  Speaker A: Oh, intercom systems.
• 11:57
  Speaker B: Yeah, so we had an intercom system. But then they had starting to get into like the early 90s, late 90s. They did have little monitors, but it was just like a radio. Like absolutely no picture.
• 12:08
  Speaker A: Yeah, right.
• 12:08
  Speaker B: Just like the radio where you could hear a cry, which I guess is a little better.
• 12:11
  Speaker A: Right. That's where those monitors came to play.
• 12:14
  Speaker B: So, I mean, times have changed. People are doing air tags. You put an air tag in your kid's fucking shoe.
• 12:18
  Speaker A: Would you do that? So I'm surprised you haven't done that.
• 12:21
  Speaker B: I'm surprised I haven't done that too. I go back and forth, like. Because my biggest fear, obviously any mom's biggest fear is like, kid, a kidnapping. Oh, yeah. But, like, I. So I just haven't done it. But I do have a story. I'm shocked at myself that I didn't do.
• 12:33
  Speaker A: So cameras must. Air tags. We're not there.
• 12:36
  Speaker B: Air tags. I'm not there yet. I don't know why.
• 12:38
  Speaker A: No one's gonna see it.
• 12:40
  Speaker B: I just feel like. I don't know. I just feel like I have my kids at an arm's length. It's like, I don't.
• 12:45
  Speaker A: And I'm at the stage where I'm like, I'm never leaving.
• 12:47
  Speaker B: Maybe when they're old, maybe when they're like, older, like an Apple Watch or something before the phone, like the step before the phone, I would do an Apple Watch. I'll share their location and then have it like that, kind of.
• 12:58
  Speaker A: Okay. Before you get to the airtag, I wanted to say, like, what are the best cameras out there? You have the Nest. I had the nanit. So I like. People love the nanit, but they just came out with a monitor. They never had the monitor. That's why I didn't love it. It was all on my phone. So I hated the phone thing.
• 13:10
  Speaker B: I like it. Well, I have a love hate relationship with it. I like the nest because I have it on my phone. And then we have a Google home, so we have a monitor. I have three. So there's one in the kitchen. Actually two. We don't have the other one set up. One in the kitchen and one in our bedroom. That's the screen. Joe and I are always looking to check on the kids. One in the kitchen. So we have. And now that my kids are having, like, play dates and they play downstairs in the basement in the playroom by themselves. I put that camera on. I put it on in the basement. So. And the kids know, like, the camera's on. So I can, like, if they're fighting or anything, I'm look at the tape like, who stole the toy? So they know that the cameras are there. We have two cameras.
• 13:49
  Speaker A: So how does your nest hook up to your Google home?
• 13:51
  Speaker B: It's all connected. Don't ask me.
• 13:56
  Speaker A: But I like the new the nuna. Now I'm getting into the baby stroller Banana.
• 14:00
  Speaker B: People like it. It's like. It's like Gio Woke up.
• 14:03
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 14:03
  Speaker B: 45.
• 14:04
  Speaker A: How long he slept, his breathing and all that stuff, I swear to God, he's two and a half. And I have not even.
• 14:08
  Speaker B: No, she hasn't. I. When I babysit, it's a Ricky Dick for all.
• 14:11
  Speaker A: Imagine me.
• 14:12
  Speaker B: Well, that's why when he was at my house, I wanted to set up a camera because he was in the guest room. I didn't do it, but that's why I was like checking to see if he was breathing because he slept so late. I know, but air tags. I have a story. My girlfriend, she had this part time nanny, and this mom was telling her a story about her part time nanny, and she had an airtag. I think she had it in her car. She put it in the car or maybe in the stroller. I'm not sure where it was, but
• 14:41
  Speaker A: it would be in her car.
• 14:42
  Speaker B: Like in the mom's house. In nanny's car. Yeah, like where the nanny drives the kid.
• 14:45
  Speaker A: Got it. Got it.
• 14:47
  Speaker B: And she saw that the nanny went to. To Newark.
• 14:50
  Speaker A: Newark, New Jersey.
• 14:51
  Speaker B: Newark, New Jersey, for a doctor's appointment. For her doctor's appointment. And she took her baby with her. She took.
• 14:57
  Speaker A: But didn't tell the mom.
• 14:58
  Speaker B: Did not tell the mom. So the mom is tracking this airpod, or what is it? Airtag.
• 15:02
  Speaker A: Airtag. Airpod. Not an airpod like my mom.
• 15:07
  Speaker B: My mom calls our podcast an ipod. She goes, are you doing the ipod today? I can't.
• 15:11
  Speaker A: It's like my mom calling Chipotle, Chipotle. I can't.
• 15:15
  Speaker B: So. So, so she's seeing it. So she got a notification. Baby is in Newark with this woman.
• 15:22
  Speaker A: I would pass away.
• 15:23
  Speaker B: I know. But then what's worse is, so the nanny gets home and she lied about it. She didn't know that there was a.
• 15:29
  Speaker A: She lied.
• 15:30
  Speaker B: She said, yeah, she didn't tell the truth. And, like, she didn't tell the truth. So she lied. And if she did tell the truth, the. The mom might have been like, sure, you could take the kid if you have to go to the doctor's appointment. And like, maybe she would have.
• 15:42
  Speaker A: But, like, I wouldn't.
• 15:43
  Speaker B: But okay, but my friend said maybe she would have, but she didn't. She lied and you got caught because there was evidence of taking.
• 15:50
  Speaker A: Like, the nanny didn't know air tag was no play.
• 15:53
  Speaker B: So that's the thing. That's like a debate too. Like, so if you're gonna air tag and you're gonna do it, like, do you want to be up front?
• 15:59
  Speaker A: Right? And the cameras too. You Have I posted a TikTok about this? And a lot of people were like, you just either say, I had them for the dog, so they're just in my house, which I can't because I don't have them yet.
• 16:08
  Speaker B: Right.
• 16:09
  Speaker A: Or you just say, hey, I'm just putting these in for safety. But I hate that.
• 16:12
  Speaker B: I don't think to be like, hitting cameras. It's just, here we are, we have camera. We're. We're a camera household.
• 16:17
  Speaker A: That's it.
• 16:18
  Speaker B: Don't.
• 16:18
  Speaker A: So your tag needs to be told by. Say, I'm putting an air tag on my kid. Yeah, but I think that's easier to say because, you know, wait.
• 16:26
  Speaker B: I think I just thought of a really funny story about.
• 16:28
  Speaker A: Wait, so. So let me finish with the New Jersey story.
• 16:31
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 16:31
  Speaker A: Lied. And now lie still, nanny or no.
• 16:33
  Speaker B: Bye, nanny. See ya. Reputation ruined. Lied.
• 16:37
  Speaker A: Lied.
• 16:37
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:37
  Speaker A: I hate a liar.
• 16:38
  Speaker B: Don't lie.
• 16:39
  Speaker A: Don't ever lie to me.
• 16:40
  Speaker B: No, you tell me you're gonna take my kid to Newark, but I'll say no. And then.
• 16:43
  Speaker A: Right, Correct.
• 16:44
  Speaker B: But that's crazy.
• 16:45
  Speaker A: It's not like a big deal. Just be like, hey, I have to go to the doctors.
• 16:47
  Speaker B: Right. But that's how. That's. Same friend was getting. Going through the nanny process, hired this new nanny. She wanted. I remember she asked me, she's like, do you want to go spy on my nanny? She wanted us to follow her in the pickup line at their school just to see how she did pick up.
• 17:05
  Speaker A: If you feel that insecure about your nanny, don't hire the nanny.
• 17:08
  Speaker B: Yeah, but, like, I mean, I get it. I get being nervous because this, you are trusting somebody with.
• 17:14
  Speaker A: I saw it once.
• 17:15
  Speaker B: That's where you're. That's where you're very lax. I am. Which is good.
• 17:19
  Speaker A: Like, I just trust.
• 17:20
  Speaker B: That's good.
• 17:20
  Speaker A: Until someone, like, takes my kid to Newark.
• 17:22
  Speaker B: I guess your kid is human trafficked. But.
• 17:26
  Speaker A: But seriously, I just feel like I have a good intuition. Like, I know.
• 17:30
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 17:30
  Speaker A: You know, I don't know.
• 17:31
  Speaker B: And my. My kids are, like, aware of the cameras. Like, I think once they hit a certain age, it's like. Like last night I was putting Rocco to bed. He was freaking out. He's going through something where he's scared of bedtime. He's like, mommy, but who will be with me? I'm like, nobody. But I'm right on the other side of the wall, like, sleeping. He's like, but who will see me? I'm like, you see that camera right there? Mommy sees you. You're Right by my head. He made me take my phone, show him that he was on camera. I was like, look, I see you. He's like, but I don't see you. I'm like, well, yeah. And I almost contemplated leaving my phone
• 18:02
  Speaker A: in here so he could see just this all night.
• 18:06
  Speaker B: No, but. And our cameras. You could talk through the camera. Right? Scares the living shit out of my kids.
• 18:11
  Speaker A: I know.
• 18:11
  Speaker B: I've done it before.
• 18:12
  Speaker A: The monitor does it too.
• 18:13
  Speaker B: Oh, it does. So if. If they're the. If we're watching them on camera and they're not sleeping or something, we'll get like, in the mean voice, like, sit down right now.
• 18:20
  Speaker A: Joey definitely does.
• 18:21
  Speaker B: Oh, my God, Joey. And then they literally, like, stop in their tracks and just, like, play dead is crazy.
• 18:27
  Speaker A: So, okay, now I got a lot of shit to do.
• 18:30
  Speaker B: I mean, cameras, air tags.
• 18:33
  Speaker A: So you don't have air tags, but you have. Cameras don't have air tags. I have neither.
• 18:36
  Speaker B: Right. I would suggest getting.
• 18:37
  Speaker A: So what do I say?
• 18:38
  Speaker B: I have a camera, like, in the play area.
• 18:41
  Speaker A: I have a play area. I have my living room that's filled with toys.
• 18:43
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker A: Like, I want one from the kitchen into the living room to show where he plays most of the time.
• 18:49
  Speaker B: Right.
• 18:49
  Speaker A: Then I want one in his bedroom, obviously.
• 18:51
  Speaker B: Yeah, you should definitely.
• 18:52
  Speaker A: And then, you know, my front door, where the sliding door is, he's there too, so.
• 18:55
  Speaker B: Right. Yeah. Or like, even in the back where they play.
• 18:59
  Speaker A: I don't want to be watched all day.
• 19:01
  Speaker B: No. Oh, well, you could shut the cameras off. Joe used to sleep in Joey's room for a period of time. I remember he'd shut the camera off because he was probably doing something he shouldn't have been doing.
• 19:11
  Speaker A: What? Not while putting your son to sleep.
• 19:16
  Speaker B: No, he slept in his room. I was like, oh, the camera's off again. Okay,
• 19:28
  Speaker A: wait, I just pictured. I don't know why? Because you just told me that you're.
• 19:31
  Speaker B: No, no. Like, he was in.
• 19:33
  Speaker A: Right, right. You didn't say that.
• 19:35
  Speaker B: No, no, no.
• 19:36
  Speaker A: I'm like, wait. Oh, my God. Okay, so more of the story.
• 19:42
  Speaker B: I keep cameras until how old? I want people to tell me, like, when does it get weird?
• 19:47
  Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like it gets weird. Like, five, six years old. No, maybe not. Maybe like eight, Nine.
• 19:51
  Speaker B: Eight, nine. I don't know. Like, when do kids need pisco?
• 19:53
  Speaker A: My son's playing with pishka. Deal. Now I'm gonna get nervous.
• 19:56
  Speaker B: I'm gonna have a real hard time with that fees.
• 19:59
  Speaker A: No, I'm not even gonna tell you what my son's doing. I love having a boy, but when it comes to the pishkadil, I can't. Mommy, look.
• 20:08
  Speaker B: When they discover it, they'll never stop discovering.
• 20:10
  Speaker A: My son came out of the room discovering it. Mommy, look. Big.
• 20:12
  Speaker B: Well, it's like a fun little.
• 20:13
  Speaker A: Like, now he made me. Give me his cup. He wants to do potty in the cup. I hold the cup and he pees in it. It's like, unreal, actually. So I don't know what's worse. So anyway, I feel like cameras, Cameras.
• 20:27
  Speaker B: I mean, it's safe. It's the safest.
• 20:28
  Speaker A: I mean, it's my fucking house. I'm gonna put a camera in.
• 20:31
  Speaker B: You can.
• 20:32
  Speaker A: And it's.
• 20:34
  Speaker B: Yeah, do it. Yeah, yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker A: And if you don't want a camera in.
• 20:36
  Speaker B: No, but when I'm babysitting, I'm turning the camera around.
• 20:39
  Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. People come to my house and, like, watch my dog or something. I don't want them to think I'm watching that, right? So I'll turn the cameras off. Say, cameras off.
• 20:46
  Speaker B: My girlfriends and I played a game. We were out to dinner, and we all put our phones in the middle with our. With the cameras up, the monitors up, and it's whoever. Like, kids, move. Do something. Like, you have to buy dinner. Or if you check your cameras first. Like, we always play, like, games like that. It's like. But like, you know, the camera's there.
• 21:02
  Speaker A: So. So many stories of kidnappings. I mean, nannies leaving the house when their kids are home, driving them to Newark. Like, hip spanking. I mean, if you search, it's like a whole web of it.
• 21:15
  Speaker B: Oh, no, my.
• 21:17
  Speaker A: I don't want to be that girl.
• 21:18
  Speaker B: One of mine. Well, my husband's nanny, our Jamaica. We call her our Jamaican Nazi. She is a strict Jamaican lady.
• 21:24
  Speaker A: She's. She's allowed to spank.
• 21:27
  Speaker B: No, she's not. My kids don't get hit.
• 21:30
  Speaker A: I know. Mine either.
• 21:31
  Speaker B: But she is, like. She's very strict, and she always. She says it to this day that she will. She would not survive nannying for a family nowadays because of the way she. I mean, she.
• 21:42
  Speaker A: Has she ever spanked your kids?
• 21:43
  Speaker B: No, but how do you know? No, she hasn't.
• 21:45
  Speaker A: Your kids would tell you.
• 21:46
  Speaker B: They would tell me. Oh, my God. If Joe, like, hits them or like. Like. Like this, my kids just come running so scared. He doesn't really hit.
• 21:55
  Speaker A: I did the hand tap.
• 21:56
  Speaker B: You did it.
• 21:57
  Speaker A: My husband did the hand tap, so I did the hand tap, and he Went, mommy, you hit me. Oh, my God, I'll never do that again. No hand tap.
• 22:04
  Speaker B: No, I can't do it.
• 22:05
  Speaker A: But he's allowed to smack me across the face.
• 22:07
  Speaker B: I physically can't, but I do.
• 22:10
  Speaker A: See, don't you get.
• 22:11
  Speaker B: I see red flags.
• 22:11
  Speaker A: Okay. You feel it, though?
• 22:12
  Speaker B: Oh, no, I have. I have in my blood, felt it. You just want to be like, oh, yeah, punt them. I want to. I want to physically hurt them.
• 22:22
  Speaker A: I know, but when my son slaps me, I. No joke. Want to punch me in the face.
• 22:26
  Speaker B: Yeah, like, fuck you.
• 22:27
  Speaker A: Yeah, fuck you.
• 22:28
  Speaker B: Fuck you, you two year old. Fuck you.
• 22:30
  Speaker A: I swear to God, that's how I feel. And like, wait, calm down.
• 22:33
  Speaker B: Like, okay, calm down.
• 22:34
  Speaker A: So anyway, there's kind of a house. Somebody would see me punching my throat
• 22:37
  Speaker B: and then we're going to jail and I would survive more.
• 22:39
  Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. So anyway, cameras in the house, air tags on the kid. I guess I condone it. Like, just do it. Yeah, and I would love to hear why you don't do it or why you do do it.
• 22:51
  Speaker B: I don't. Yeah, I. Old school. Old school people probably just don't do it.
• 22:56
  Speaker A: I mean, there's cameras in daycares.
• 22:57
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, there are. And people. And moms get so crazy. They, they. Some kids are like, Some moms are like, I need to see this tape.
• 23:05
  Speaker A: Like, I know they won't go to daycare unless they have cameras.
• 23:07
  Speaker B: Right? And you can actually pay. There's like a special, I forget who was telling me this, where there are cameras, but, like, you pay extra to get the footage so you can actually get the footage of the day.
• 23:19
  Speaker A: It's just a money scam, right?
• 23:20
  Speaker B: But, like, I don't even think, like,
• 23:23
  Speaker A: I would never even think to look at footage. Do I trust too many people maybe?
• 23:27
  Speaker B: I mean, I would not, like, look at footage. I, like, look at it to find funny shit. Like my mom dressed up in a dinosaur.
• 23:32
  Speaker A: Yeah, like, that's funny to me. I guess it would be funny to, like, Michael tells me a story and I'm like, oh, my God, I wish I saw it. And then I. Yeah, he shows me the footage and it's him. Like.
• 23:40
  Speaker B: Or like the kids, they share a room now and, like, they do the cutest things and I, like, go back on the camera. I want to see it exactly.
• 23:45
  Speaker A: Like, things like that. All right, so cameras, air tags, and make sure your kid doesn't get stolen. Okay. Okay. That's it.
• 23:51
  Speaker B: That's it.
• 23:51
  Speaker A: Love you. Bye. Bye.