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Chatting SJM & Books With Jordan from @what.jordan.reads · Moms That Read

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[SPEAKER_02]: come to the mom's read podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a can see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm Kaylee and we have a very special guest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a what Jordan reads from Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever done a podcast before?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've done a couple, but it's been a hot minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a hot minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the first of 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, wait, are you wearing a tear-sense pusher?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to wrap it because that's what I'm reading right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that's from Melamug.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I forgot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've seen that before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have so many things from her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an obsession at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm obsessed with her and what she makes so it's an immediate buy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because I know Brett and everybody else is going to be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going to a meet and greet cute and Oh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so July is pretty crazy for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I could not do anything until I've got started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going we get to meet her finally at the book Con thingy that we're on so jealous the way that I would just squeeze the crap out of her I know so many people are going I'm so excited to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that will be fun
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[SPEAKER_02]: I ordered like three S. J. M. things before she looked before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a couple things coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I have to do it before it's gone forever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So looking especially like the reading order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which, which one, which where are we lying with that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I love you regardless.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was looking at like, um, we are a straight assassins blade third people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do a clap for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly agree with that from experience because I wrote a assassins blade first and almost didn't finish the series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it, because you don't care what she's talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know her yet and you won't, you're not invested in her backstory at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, too, the characters that you meet don't really play a role, except for obviously the one that we know, like, to Portland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, you don't need those other characters and see the how they play out until later on in the story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to be like starting throwing glasses and like, wait, who are these people?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have appreciated the story so much more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would have probably enjoyed the book, had I read it later?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think you would have, you would have been like, and even then, like, I'm doing my reread right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like listening to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm about to hit like the worst of the.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So does I literally did not listen to it before going on, this was like, I'm coming to cry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So so like, but even just now listening to it and knowing how those characters play a role, it's like, it just hits so much harder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't even imagine not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: knowing her and your main character and then just like trying to get invested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like it just to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just listen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I shame herself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the queen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says read a third.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I listen to her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's that like reading order floating around where if you want to read it the traditional way or like the romantic way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I read it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like romantic way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that like after air fire or something?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, so that's what I did because I found that and I'm like, thank God I did because I would have hated it otherwise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I mean, it's like hard to go back and you're kind of like, well, why does this matter?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, you definitely at least need to know Selena first, before you would write this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I think it took me longer to make the connections like once I got to Empire of Storm and Tower of Dawn, and like with the people, I think it took me longer because it had been so long since I was just playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the same like, if I had a reddit later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then there's people, which again, to each their own, like, listen, just read the freaking series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, there are people that are like, nope, up and down swear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to read it first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, it's just so funny how there's just, everyone's very passionate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, they're, they're, they're.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My friend was like, you have to read it first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you will understand it better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, hey, I'm going to have to debunk that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which one she sold more of?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know what.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure that's correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that would be that would be pretty interesting to know that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about to shoot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to call her up and Instagram message.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely not ever read assassins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my friends read the whole series and never read assassins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if she went, if she actually went back and read it, now I think she would appreciate it more than daily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Haley did the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't even know that it's often played existed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she was like, wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, there's a book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I still have to read one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she went back and she read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, thank goodness I did because, you know, it like, So you've been just having like the full context of the whole series itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then reading that is also really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like you get later on in the series and you figure out where these people come from, but yeah, no-wing who they are in Assassin's Play just makes it more full circle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I looked in our message.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to see what she says.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need the stats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, so, oh, did you do the tandem?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first time around I did do it, and it was like the freaking coolest adventure ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He leased an anti-tant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I made a tandem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm not gonna do it this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually my reread.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna start and do just empire of storms and then do a tower of dawn just to see how I feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in flopping that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, doing the opposite way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Doing Tower of Dawn first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In Power of Storms, that's how I read it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because of the cliffhanger?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't want to jump from that cliffhanger into a romance book, essentially.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's we're gonna just segue into another thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why people are kale haters is because they read in power of storms and then have to jump into a fantasy or romance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, no, you just didn't read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never be a kale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, like, one of if not my favorite couples from that entire series is kale and I read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, to me, their love story was different for and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love, I love kale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's never making it a man's story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot do anything to make me a kale.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand the hate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm loving you're like, just as per kale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say that without your fight for him and he needs it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like it's so funny it's because even like the first time around I did not I never ended up hating him I was like, okay everyone says like all kales the worst and I'm like one of my I'm like is this gonna be a Tammland situation where I'm gonna like Like oh, yeah, he's actually a piece of shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he's not he's not I have too many reasons to do that I could go on a tangent right now, but I'm not gonna do that Listen, but all I will say is reading it the second time around as made me even more like what why?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're going to come up with it, we're always saying I feel like people hate on kale because he is the most human and we don't want to read somebody who's human and a fan of people like we don't want to really like that would be us and joining me it means okay sorry I need to calm down we know I like the thing that I just also find like such an interesting take is like we don't like kale because let's be frank
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[SPEAKER_00]: She he he tells her I love you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He sends her away because he wants to keep her safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to protect her sending her essentially to Rowan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then and then when he comes back, he's he's a little bit hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a little sad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He loved her and he was like, maybe a lot of milk for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's been shit going on that she didn't know about he's stressed out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His whole world's been rocked like there's magic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's stuff going on everything's corrupt like he's trying to process this doesn't have anyone in his corner But yet, but yet we're going to love and obsess over Rowan who literally punched her in the face and also said that like basically I hope you just die because you're worthless and something about like I'm going to like put more slashes in your back or something like that and I'm like
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we hate K. Oh, yeah, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a little bit running on the hated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's me because I prefer lurking over a row in any day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, lurking any day, lurking, lurking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't hate rowing, but like rowing just didn't like, I didn't, I think that like the he has really cool moments and I think it's a reduce himself and like I think him and Alan like I totally get why they're together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, he just he's not like someone that I'm like number one book book friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't I and I know that might make sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But out of the that world, I think Rowan is bottom for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I like Fenderous, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka, Borka,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're going to segue into the questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're supposed to start with, but we, I told you we app on these things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just start yapping about what I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like the flow state of my brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to remind me of something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no tabs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My greed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we usually start out with what we're recently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, what we
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I am currently reading.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm almost on with all this fair and loving chaos by Jen Plumer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a motorcycle club romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like dark romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit romantic suspense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's spicy, but it is so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will, I needed something different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just needed to switch something up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I need just something that's not my norm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my friend, Britt, not Britt, Melama, Britt is a, no, it's plus whimsy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was like, give me a rack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just hook me up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, OK, and here we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're almost done with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Loving that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check her trigger warnings, though, on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, almost no assassins played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am in the underworld part, so yeah, I'm going to be wrecked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be wrecked into it the first time, or did you read it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am immersive read the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was listening to it while eyeball reading it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, my feelings are about to be heard again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I am positively decided because everyone's freaking talking about, is it theory bound?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I downloaded dire bound and I got the odd audio books and I have to read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had a certain, but I'm going to a fourth wing fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm not a die hard for thwing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you you might like die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so like we like Diaron.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I we were hating on it when we first read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there are just like scary similarities between forthwing and like oh interesting mirroring with how it was done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, like if I had just like read it and not seeing the similarities I feel like I would have liked it a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited about book two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: then, but I don't know, I think I like forthwing too much and it was, that's totally fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was almost verbatim forthwing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it at Wolves?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it Wolves?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was almost like the character dynamic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was called Jogans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was, what's his name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, like, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, I'm going to have to read it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I have to know, yeah, now you're like, now I got it now I have to read it, but also jumping back to fourth wing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really did like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have not read iron flame or on the get I buddy read it with my husband.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we kind of like took our time with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like maybe that's why I'm when I feel where I feel what we're all to say them accents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved the, I love the overall concept and the plot for whatever reason I'm having a hard time buying into Violet and Zaden's relationship because they went from I hate you to I love you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's make love ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like they went too quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted more yearning and build up and I felt like it was just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: And will you love each other?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to more of the enemies to love her enemies than lovers five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I feel like you'll like iron flame and on a storm a lot better than.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, see that's what I've heard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard roller coaster of a mission.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's why I've heard a high for long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm emotional damage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me emotional damage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually prefer that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me with most of Rebecca Yaris is like long books.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like all three of her books could have been about 200 pages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, that's so, and it's so hard because it's like, are you understand like maybe like when you read the next book, why you like learned a lot about something specific, but in the in the time, in that, you know, while you're doing it, it's kind of like, you know, okay, particularly iron flam was a
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of extra music for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like I would have liked it a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it all not been so like, you know, yeah, I'm getting in the end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ted, I was in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: On it storm, though, I was so pissed off for months after I finished that book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, but like you're happy that you're mad or you're like, oh, I.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, do you want to be like a good like with it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's my heart with it.
15:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to reread it because I was so pissed off after I was like, I'm not reading the next books and then like it genuinely to hold my gosh.
15:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I was just like, but now I want to reread it because I'm like, okay.
15:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you'll feel differently.
15:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
15:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine now.
15:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy now, ish with how it ended.
15:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not hurt anymore, but.
15:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
15:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
15:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But it hurt me.
15:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, it's always a good thing when a book does that to you.
15:51
[SPEAKER_02]: No, exactly.
15:53
[SPEAKER_02]: If it could like a list.
15:55
[SPEAKER_00]: for me, I'm like, first, thank you.
15:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to feel whatever it is that you were trying to make me feel, I want to feel it.
16:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, back to the motorcycle book that you were talking about.
16:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, well, it's all fair in loving chaos by Jen Plumer.
16:11
[SPEAKER_02]: because I'm reading my first motorcycle right now.
16:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but paisley hope.
16:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I was another one that I got asked or got told to read too.
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I've heard it's really good.
16:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So good.
16:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
16:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I heard it's really good.
16:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never read like a motorcycle game.
16:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fun.
16:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like, it's like, what is going on in them here?
16:31
[SPEAKER_00]: For all the nicknames and they're so possessive, but then they're so soft and cutty on the inside with their women.
16:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just, I just love it.
16:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
16:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I complete opposite of my personality, but I'm like here, and I'm like, let's eat this out.
16:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I told her, I was like, if it's anything, like, sons of Anarchy, it's gonna be up.
16:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
16:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
16:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So, have you guys ever read the Mind Fox series?
16:53
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
16:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
16:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
16:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, amazing thriller, trick or trigger going on for sure.
17:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
17:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But the, but the main FMC in that book is so badass and so amazing.
17:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the FMC in this book.
17:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So for the people that are listening that loved the mind-fuck series, Lana Myers is very embodying in this character in all's fair and love of chaos.
17:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so sad.
17:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So sad.
17:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a thriller.
17:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Me either.
17:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
17:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was like, oh, no, it's a thriller and if you need it again.
17:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
17:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I thought it's like drink every time I say check or trigger warnings, but it's it's dark.
17:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a it's a dark romance for sure.
17:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like dark romance thriller.
17:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You wolf is kind of.
17:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like one of my friends had recommended it to me as like and because I'm very intro level dark romance right now.
17:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Same.
17:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Same.
17:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she's like it's like an intro like it's a little sprinkle of some dark romance.
17:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
17:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I've read one well I wanted to be considered that dark romance.
17:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was that the never king and it was I've seen that I've seen that it's like that
18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I didn't think that was dark, though.
18:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, well, you can, but you can level up them.
18:14
[SPEAKER_00]: You can do a little bit darker.
18:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about that.
18:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I read a lot now.
18:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's about the darkest that we're on other than this one.
18:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That was so funny, though.
18:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it had me audibly cracking up.
18:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you read the newest one that came out yet?
18:27
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
18:28
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't finished the rest of the series yet.
18:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where I went.
18:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But I loved that one.
18:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It was hilarious.
18:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
18:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what was your last five star read?
18:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's so hard, well, I mean, obviously it's about to be these two that I'm currently reading.
18:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not fair.
18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not fair to say that I'm, I mean, Assassin's Blade.
18:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can't even assign stars to that series, but I will say one of my last five star reads or almost like a five star read was red rising by Pierce Brown.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I was, me and my husband were listening to it on audible.
19:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We did the graphic audio.
19:05
[SPEAKER_00]: We listened to it on our way down, driving down to Disney and on our way back.
19:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And the graphic audio is so good.
19:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that series is consuming us for sure.
19:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on the second one now.
19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I recommended to us quite no.
19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It really has been.
19:19
[SPEAKER_00]: The graphic audio is worth it.
19:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you just have to remember there's another sale or something.
19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Just get them.
19:24
[SPEAKER_00]: They are, it's a, it's a lot of world building in the first book, but it's paying off down.
19:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So, really good name.
19:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a big series?
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I think it's actually so writing.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
19:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I know.
19:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think I think the first three are like a trilogy.
19:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think you can, if you wanted to stop, I don't really know.
19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I try to go and blind, so I'm not really sure.
19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is, I think, uh, one coming out this year.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Next year, I think, don't quote me, but I think, I think.
19:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
19:57
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
19:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really good.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I see it everywhere.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like world building and like political intro then you'll then you will love red rising.
20:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
20:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You will love it.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you he really just gives you the emotional damage right away.
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't have to wait for it.
20:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Just
20:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just waiting for you, it's just starting.
20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's good, it's good.
20:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love like I really started to love the characters and like get the little group, you know, you should definitely read it.
20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll have to, it literally keeps popping up into, I think it's, oh, I saw it today while I was scrolling through Libby for like what's available right now for audiobooks.
20:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was available to like just immediately borrow.
20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And until I've saved it, because I'm just like, I see that everywhere.
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you would like it more than me.
20:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, can we like say nothing?
20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you still good?
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's like more of like the fantasy reader versus the contemporary romance?
20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's me too.
20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: McKinsey's also like a history teacher.
20:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my gosh.
20:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You love that.
21:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I love all the like interconnections and like the building of things.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like to read a good romance.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: If I just don't have the brain capacity, but if I do not offer for that any day.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you just need a little palette cleanser and just like one that's just for fun, like correct.
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't only have to think and you're just having a good time.
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know that they end up together and then there's not going to be a third act break up.
21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can just like, I know read through.
21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I they're not my favorite, like, because I just feel like sometimes it just
21:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It just never seems necessary, but I get it because you have to have like an in an author's perspective, you have to like kind of have some type of conflict.
21:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And I third act because like that's what I love.
21:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I love fantasy so much.
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I love contemporary romance.
21:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not getting me wrong.
21:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But why like fantasy romantic years like my favorite is because
21:51
[SPEAKER_00]: There's more than just the romance.
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: There's the plot.
21:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So like with contemporary romance, it's like solely focused on the romance.
21:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it almost feels like it's like, I don't know, I love when there's just more layers to it.
22:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's why I also love romantic suspense.
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say, I think that's why I like romantic systems so much because like, I'm not going to get a third act break up, but I'm going to find out who the crazy person is.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on the same pitch.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like, do I read.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I just like in love with people know who she is.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I love her so much and I actually just got to meet her.
22:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I know literally day May, day for good nature and so on, Joel and so sweet and I love her so much.
22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like genuinely, like the human that you see when she's on stories or he's talking, like she's so genuinely sweet.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And until the time to talk to everybody and like give them their time, it was amazing.
22:51
[SPEAKER_00]: She's amazing.
22:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I love her.
22:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to get her on the pod.
22:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, you should.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure she would.
22:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure she would.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: She's just she's an angel.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope that happens to you.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And if that happens, I'll be listening.
23:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Hi.
23:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm obsessed with her.
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And okay, have you read Victoria Wilder's book?
23:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Victoria Wilder.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Birbren Moe is down in Fiesta.
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you tell me now?
23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We did have her on the pod.
23:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, I love her.
23:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually so funny.
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Some somehow some way I have a weakness and with the, uh, uh, why can I talk bourbon girls and women's whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist whist wh
23:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It was no.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: If you are, sometimes I can whip out the title or like the series and then other terms of like, yeah.
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, that way.
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And we actually get to meet her in July at the meeting.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
23:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I decided to meet her.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: She writes some good romantic suspense.
23:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to read the new series.
24:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
24:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
24:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost done with the forbidden voice.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I just listened to the second one.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So oh, I love urban secrets.
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I was probably one of my favorite brands other series.
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, my favorite link in box.
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: A tap in when I love ace and had leaves like dynamic.
24:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to see that unfold.
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like patiently waiting.
24:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's worth the week.
24:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It's worth the moment because it's forced proximity and arranged marriage.
24:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like magic convenience.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
24:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, love it.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's you'll need it up for favorite stuff right there.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, any like, say, oh my gosh, I know.
24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, the best, that's all you have to tell me.
24:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I'm reading it.
24:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we told you could put yourself into any book world what would it be?
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I, like, cause I'm reading Throne of Glossard and I'll be like, yeah, put me in tears and sure.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, my love and my heart will always say, Belarus, I'm drop me into the night court, make me a part of the inner circle.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll dance with me and Cassian will go to read us, hit it up, have some fun.
25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'll hit up a little paint session with fair.
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just, yeah, they're each one of them.
25:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like I know them on A.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: intimate level, which sounds so stupid.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But I literally feel like I've never connected to characters more than the inner circle.
25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I just love each other.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I love so much.
25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: That was my first fantasy series that I read like after I got into reading again.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And I actually read a quarter thorns and roses on the way to Disney.
25:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And my gosh in a beauty in the beast room stop it and I was like this is just like this is just like this is meant to be it is it is I'm like I feel about Reese like I feel about Rowan oh true
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Really.
25:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no.
25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really.
25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's fine.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I am.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you guys can take another look at this.
26:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I do your girl.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's a casting girl.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also completely understand why you're also those as well.
26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I love them for I love them for each of their own individual reasons.
26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
26:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But like for cascading for me, like he's like he would be like my best buddy.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: like he's like just a goofy in my head.
26:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like he's just like the goofy guy that's like like you want to go, just like do something stupid and then yeah, let's go.
26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, Mary and Swift.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and then as you're going to make me just like feel very intimidated.
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be like, oh my gosh, you hate me.
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what's going on?
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what are you thinking about?
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like are we all right?
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Like are you on me?
26:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, do you like me like women but no, no, I love as.
26:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot wait.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I pleased your god let us have some of that in the next one.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have to know anything about here.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't need to know much.
26:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Just don't need to know anything.
26:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, actually, I'm good.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take a picture.
27:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he deserves.
27:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as he is.
27:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let me ask you this.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, okay, let me just say this.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever she writes, I swear, I will genuinely eat it up.
27:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 100%.
27:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the tension clearly.
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the yearning that has been building for him and only.
27:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love it, you know, I love it.
27:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is just something about me that really hopes it's win.
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I love when I feel like the shadows respond so much differently to her than they do to Elaine and I just feel like they're backstory of like how he saved her from the I just I just I want happiness for the two of them and I feel like Elaine
27:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like it's kind of like a, okay, well, like, yeah, like all the art run sisters ending up with a bad boy, like, I just, I don't know.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, I think she's done something else up her sleeve.
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Elaine in Tam Tam are going to end up the other.
28:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen that theory.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's an interesting theory.
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would be, I would like to see how that would unfold, but I also love Lucien.
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like, with justice for Lucien more than Elaine.
28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I want him to feel chosen.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I want him to feel chosen because I feel like he's kind of just been leftover his whole life.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I feel that he needs to have someone that chooses him.
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the villain is someone that we're not expecting to be the villain.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Amran, mm.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm thinking.
28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, here.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, any time I go down, any type of like, people who are trying to do, like, maybe theories about stuff.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, yeah, that probably is going to happen.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I read another one, I'm like, but wait, no, that could probably happen.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just, I,
28:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know more about like what happened to me more in Eris.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know the truth behind that.
28:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Where has she been?
28:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Where?
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: What did she see in that bush?
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they're like, what was the question there?
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, right?
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's so many things.
29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like what I do my reread and I'm like getting to like those books.
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be like just jotting down.
29:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like all of my thoughts.
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what's what?
29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: What is going to be answered?
29:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think people missed the true point of, oh my god, I'm blanking silver flames because I, everyone's like, oh, it's so, I've been to that because they're nestahaters and I'm like, but I don't think you are not like, there were so many unanswered things happening and silver flames that that is, yep, I was paying attention to, yes, you can see that, but we're doing whatever, but like, I was like, okay, I have so many questions because there's so much happening backstage that we're not threatening.
29:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: and also justice for Nesta dude.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I love her.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: What's this for Nesta?
29:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We're Nesta stands as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are as well.
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: In there, and we, I mean, you got it.
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, we, all of those are here.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And just like when she came out on the pod on Call of Duty and come on, thank you.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I knew I loved Nesta for a reason and that just was like, we'll through a cool moment.
30:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say.
30:08
[SPEAKER_02]: We were OGNists of Santa.
30:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody loved Nesta until S.A.M.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: was like, yeah, I love Nesta.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Then everybody was like, I love Nesta too.
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I love her.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say this.
30:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I even from the beginning when I was listening and I was during the graphic audio and also eyeball reading it, but like obviously listen, she says and does things that were cruel.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're not trying to make excuses for her, but I could see that there was something underneath all of that that people just want to just immediately just dismiss and be like she's a rich or like I hate her.
30:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But she's not and like the gr- oh my gosh, I was reading a court of silver flames when I was like deep in like postpartum depression Postpartum anxiety and the way that oh my gosh that book just spoke to me.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I just don't understand I just feel like
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: People just don't like sometimes complicated flawed characters and it's just like I get that she made mistakes and she said things that she shouldn't have done, but like that's part of that that's the human experience.
31:11
[SPEAKER_00]: All do and say things that we shouldn't have done and we learn from them and then we're trying to make ourselves better.
31:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like these next few books.
31:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to see a lot of more of that growth.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do like people who don't suffer from any form of depression or anxiety tend to hate on these characters because they're like, there's no way that that's, well, yeah, there is way that that's how people act because you don't know more.
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's more to it.
31:38
[SPEAKER_00]: People project or they do things because like they feel a certain way or you might misunderstand their intentions, but really on the inside, they were feeling
31:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, amen, preach, the little, what are we doing these days?
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, every time.
31:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that was what I was called.
32:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Clack.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like seven critters are doing.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, yeah, clock.
32:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see, like, you know all the lingo.
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to talk about what?
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?
32:08
[SPEAKER_00]: What's happening here?
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, I say seven, I'm like, I'm going to go home and look that one up, just to make sure.
32:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't know if I trust that.
32:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
32:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm like, what are you there?
32:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And he comes home saying some stuff sometimes and I'm like, I'm so sorry, what was that?
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: My daughter who explained who is three.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Looked at my husband and aunt had six, seven and did her onions.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, yes, sorry.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a three.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you see that?
32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm so much up all the time.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like a little late.
32:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Please calm.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, I know.
32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
32:41
[SPEAKER_00]: These kids man coming up with new things.
32:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't just make it look dormant over.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Lord.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So what is your favorite and least favorite trip in a book?
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So actually mine kind of like go hand in hand.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about this and I was like,
32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's like, at the obvious ones, like third act break up in this communication with a lot of people, I personally, my favorite is yearning just learning I want to feel.
33:14
[SPEAKER_00]: that this man sees her and cannot take his eyes off of her.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, hung the moon and all that.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to feel that, not by the way that they're physically.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get an internal dialogue.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me how much you love her and want her, right?
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And then my least favorite trope is insta love.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want like,
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I need more.
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to be invested in into your relationship.
33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to actually like almost go on this journey with you.
33:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm going to be excited when you finally kiss and say, right, walk in and you know, just go for it.
33:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just feel like instal of just kind of takes that away agreed agreed for me.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I know you're not big on contemporary romance, but have you read first time caller, but became, oh, I haven't, but she lives it like a Maryland and I'm like, oh,
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want a man that yarns, first time caller, and then and now back to you, which is the second book in that series, done of those men, you're in like no other man I've ever read before.
34:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's okay.
34:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Internal dialogue.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite.
34:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Say less.
34:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Done.
34:21
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all you.
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So good.
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
34:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So good.
34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I listened to in now back to you, but I read the first one like I ball read and it was just so good.
34:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I got her on it.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
34:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I do it.
34:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
34:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Another important question.
34:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
34:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Top three bookboyfriends.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: This is extremely difficult.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it really is.
34:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, are you wanting me to give you fantasy?
34:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Because fantasy book boyfriends versus like contemporary book boyfriends to me are different.
34:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go with three of you.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, because I agree.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
34:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I listen, I'm mostly fantasy romance period, which is so funny because if you told me that like two years ago, I've been like white, but okay, I'll start out with contemporary because I was also thinking about this, it was like oh my gosh, it's so hard.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, my top three and no specific order contemporary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is Nate from the end zone, written by Erin McKenzie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a sports romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Just if you have not read the out of bound series by Erin McKenzie, I'm not at the home, it's a girl.
35:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, it's a completed series.
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It's done.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: She's gonna be working on her next series.
35:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It is so good, so good.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of unlimited audiobooks are all, the third one is about to be coming out sooner.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's already out, yeah, no it's already out, the fourth audiobooks being filmed so or recorded.
35:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So amazing, Nate is the second book.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I love sports.
35:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a pro football.
35:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Sports romance.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
35:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so good.
36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So good.
36:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Nate Lincoln Fox from Bourbon and Stike is going to be wilder.
36:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to have a little we got to have a little bourbon boy in there.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
36:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Kai from Secret Haven Katherine cows.
36:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
36:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
36:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You love him.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to think, because I'm trying to go like recentish reads, and those were within the last year, so those were like, we were picking those guys.
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Could change this year.
36:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Fantasy, I can never remove Reese from number one.
36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He has not been moved, so Reese stands at number one, and that is actually in order number one.
36:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my gosh, this is so freaking hard.
36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, okay, okay, I could obviously say like a frickin' love kale.
36:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I love lurkin', like, I love Roondanin', like, what do you want me to say?
36:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, the SGM men period, that's true.
36:59
[SPEAKER_00]: True.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But then, some one that I feel like does not get enough love is Rory from the night in the month.
37:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yes, yes.
37:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he, like that book,
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Your name, dude, you're not just so good.
37:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot wait for the name in the moon.
37:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will just shout, yes, I love Rachel Gillig so much.
37:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Her books, you know, I've read anything like her books.
37:23
[SPEAKER_00]: There are, there are, there are, I'm like anything.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: They're amazing.
37:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's literally like, I,
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I just love love love love love.
37:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So for me it's wish it crowns will forever be my favorite duality.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: For example, it's a macular.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a macular.
37:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what can you say?
37:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And then what I have one more right.
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I feel like I wrote this down.
37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to come to me.
37:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That's some point.
37:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to randomly think of this like, I'm going to randomly think of this later.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys should be able to have whatever you think of the name.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So while I was thinking, I do have a bookrock for you.
37:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, have you?
37:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It is very, I don't know.
38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you like the safe darkness like from the political side?
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: This I've darkness by Alexis Miracle.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: She's an indie girl.
38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: She we interviewed her actually in person.
38:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, a month ago.
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this book like very different.
38:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a intertwining of like Hunger Games meets Handmaid's tale.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, like a little bit of fantasy at the end.
38:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and there's a lot of like there's an underground world and like the sun is essentially the enemy.
38:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's like tears, so women who are married or talked here, women who have had a child but are single or like a second tear and then- Oh my gosh, five of them who have nothing so contributed, nothing to society are like the bottom to you.
38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm seeing that I can see as a 30 year old who has like a chronic illness and she is, oh, it's so good.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It is so good.
38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, no one comes out on October.
38:58
[SPEAKER_01]: The first one like there's no spice and I literally didn't even care because now you don't it exactly that's just that good.
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, when they were training, there's one training exercise where, like, he pins her hands above her head and you're just like, that's my last being at straws like, oh my god, please kiss her, but then they don't and that's the best because, yes, don't do it yet, yes, make us earn it, you know, yes, make us yearn for your relationship.
39:23
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the word she used for the second book, dummy mommy?
39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It becomes a dummy mommy.
39:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, but, okay, well, like, consider me influenced.
39:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, for real, we're building it's fantastic, okay?
39:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really good.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I enjoyed that one a lot.
39:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't really like politically books, but I really enjoyed that one.
39:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
39:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
39:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So what is a popular bookstore and book that everyone else love that you just didn't?
39:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So to be honest, I feel like I think of, okay, I actually have not really read a book that has been popular, and I like hated it.
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say I more so the two, I'll give you two.
40:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: because I, you know, I think guys love you love for twang.
40:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I also, I liked for twang and love and be obsessed with it.
40:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
40:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was because of the reason I explained with you, I really like the foundation was freaking it's there.
40:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And I may be actually to keep going.
40:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you'll like it if you keep going.
40:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I wanted more of like the shit that was happening at the end.
40:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like,
40:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that a lot when you keep going buckle up for yes.
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just wish that there was a little bit more yearning between the two of them.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just more like a little bit like dang like I'm a little disappointed like why am I not obsessed like everyone else.
40:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It made me feel like what's wrong with me.
40:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, things happen in book two to where there's like forced yearning.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, or like, OK, I'm there not together.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, true.
40:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see that.
40:56
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, I love, I want some of that.
41:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, again, it was one of those situations where I just read it, and it's been like hyped up everywhere.
41:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I want to be obsessed with you guys, but like some things missing in a kid.
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't pinpoint it, and it will show the sparrows.
41:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And I listened to the graphic audio.
41:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that it had such great elements, like I felt there was such great elements to it.
41:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I really love, I mean, of course.
41:26
[SPEAKER_00]: The ending goes hard.
41:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that like with fantasy, like you got to earn that, right?
41:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
41:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But for whatever reason, I just was like,
41:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know what it was.
41:39
[SPEAKER_00]: There was just something missing where I was like, I'm a little disappointed I wish I loved it this more.
41:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But then now I've heard everyone's freaking obsessed with rights of the styling.
41:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, you know, again, it's not like I didn't love it.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that there was just a piece of it that was like, man, I'm just like not obsessed.
41:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to be.
41:58
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I'm, that's where I'm now with those.
42:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I love.
42:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you plan on reading rights of the styling?
42:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I definitely want to read by it.
42:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really.
42:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'll do it like right now.
42:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen so many mixed things about right.
42:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're rolling that I'm terrified to read it.
42:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I really enjoyed Shield of Sparrow's.
42:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I don't like the worst thing is when you're like so excited for a second book.
42:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, oh, you know, like that's the worst, especially in anticipating it.
42:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've heard, at least for me, I think I've only heard nothing but like raving reviews for the rights of the Starling, and that makes me go, okay.
42:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, and I even had like someone who had reached out to me, I was like, I felt the same way about you, how you do about Shield of Sparrow's, but then rights of the Starling, six stars.
42:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so I thought I was like, okay.
42:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, maybe I just need to like, I don't know.
42:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very much like a vibes reader.
42:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like gonna say crazy.
42:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna like,
42:58
[SPEAKER_00]: critique it down to I can read it and I appreciate it for what it is, but there's just sometimes like I don't know there was just something that was missing for me and I don't know what that was I'm trying to figure it out and I don't know what it is See that no that's literally how we feel about a quick silver and bremstone Yeah, I understand that I I I feel I totally I totally guess you I feel like I You like
43:24
[SPEAKER_00]: book two was I thought was good, but there was a lot of like jumping around that kind of of like what are we doing here, where are we going, Lee's zero questions answered like nothing.
43:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And they she knew carrying Swift, we wanted more of and she did nothing with his character.
43:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I think that clearly we're setting up I think to have I think she's going to do a lot of like answering of those questions, but I also think I heard her say that like she might write a book like a spin off with Karen like being the main character.
43:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I swear I feel like I've heard that.
44:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
44:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Carrie's work.
44:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the best dude.
44:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He liked Carrie's that book for me.
44:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He does.
44:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He really does.
44:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the only reason I like quick silver as much as I did.
44:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he was like barely in Brimstone.
44:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, this kind of sucks.
44:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I won't work here.
44:17
[SPEAKER_02]: We're scary.
44:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, my main character actually does.
44:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I totally hear you there.
44:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the best.
44:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
44:25
[SPEAKER_02]: What is a book that you think deserves way more hype than it gets?
44:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, I, you want me to give you like a fantasy wreck slash.
44:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Now contemporary, I'm 100% going to tell you again, laying it down out of bounds areas by Erin McKenzie.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It is she just, first of all, writes the best.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: found family within them like she just has such a good job of like the found family in the group.
44:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You love all the girls.
44:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You love all the guys.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You're giggling.
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You're laughing.
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You're feeling all the emotions.
45:02
[SPEAKER_00]: The romance is amazing.
45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just it's and she actually legit knows her football.
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So like when she's writing the football scenes like she is legit like she's a football fan.
45:14
[SPEAKER_00]: She knows her stuff.
45:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like I just also just love her so much.
45:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I mean, I feel like with fantasy, I feel like what deserves more hyper that I feel like I do think that once people read it, they get the hype is anything from Rachel Gillick, like I feel like I see it, I see people but I think it's really just like the people who read fantasy, like, well, appreciate it, but like it needs to be with, like, yes.
45:44
[SPEAKER_00]: everyone could read that shit.
45:46
[SPEAKER_00]: She's she deserves to just have like, yeah, a bajillion followers.
45:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I would put everything there with like Rebecca Yarris.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I'm just like, she's amazing, where she's at because what are you doing if you're not.
46:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like some people will see like it says Gothic fantasy and they're like, and I don't know if I like that, but no, you will you will like that.
46:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like just the way that she writes is just so it's unique and it's beautiful and she makes you fall in love with a gargoyle like, I mean, come on.
46:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm also in your head.
46:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
46:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
46:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also for all the Dorian have alluded.
46:23
[SPEAKER_00]: peeps.
46:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You would absolutely freaking love one of the main characters in one dark window and absolutely put your present.
46:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that?
46:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't hang girlies flock over.
46:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds.
46:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That was an L.
46:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
47:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so, would that be like one of the book you would always recommend to someone?
47:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
47:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like anything by Rachel Gillick, I would want to just absolutely just be like, you have to and you just you have to.
47:20
[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
47:21
[SPEAKER_02]: No, okay.
47:22
[SPEAKER_02]: If there's someone listening who has not read a lot of fantasy, what does the book you'd recommend to like an intro to
47:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be like, cliché and be like, avatar, but like, I just didn't think it's a gateway drug.
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a gateway drug.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, my thing is, is that you, it's a non-negotiable, like, you have to listen to the graphic audio.
47:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, like, oh my gosh, they're so good.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They literally, there's a difference between like, someone, okay, Elizabeth Evans with Throne of Glass is a fashion to my rule of like, she convinces me that she's quite literally like 20 people.
48:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
48:05
[SPEAKER_00]: She acts.
48:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just like, I'm reading the lines.
48:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I am acting.
48:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm putting on a performance for you and there are emotions with the graphic audio for Akatar and for Crescent City.
48:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the acting, oh my gosh, I just think of like,
48:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Certain scenes in Aquar and Akamath and when you're listening in silver flames like they are giving you the emotions.
48:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah But I feel like Akatar the series the world building and like the fantasy element of it all is I feel like pretty approachable I don't think it's like that complex And then you're gonna be like oh, I need more of this and then you just go down the rabbit hole of like everything else
48:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happened to me.
48:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, by summer with fourth wing, because my friend said, hey, there's this book about dragons.
48:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, that sounds really stupid.
48:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I read it.
48:58
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, well, just kidding.
48:59
[SPEAKER_01]: What about, hey, and I was like, what?
49:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I didn't turn back.
49:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that was like the bird.
49:07
[SPEAKER_00]: One or the other, people can wonder the other typically.
49:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that very powder.
49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That was like the first fantasy thing I had ever read.
49:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I don't know what a phase,
49:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, right?
49:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, exactly.
49:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, oh, also another one jumping backwards that a book or slash series that deserves way more hype is the Wolf King and then I pronounce by Lauren Pulse, Paul Freeman.
49:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my god.
49:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm obsessed with that.
49:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
49:34
[SPEAKER_00]: The audiobooks are they speak in Scottish and British accents.
49:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me to say anything else?
49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'll listen to the Wolf King to not.
49:41
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I really, I really think that's what I did, but I heard a snippet of it.
49:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
49:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, for more reread.
49:48
[SPEAKER_00]: the Wolf Queen just listen to the audiobooks and you'll be like, uh, thank you.
49:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
49:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.
49:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always here.
49:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I read that book in one day and she read it into.
49:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so good.
50:01
[SPEAKER_00]: What is in those books?
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand it.
50:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I had never seen it.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I came across it on maybe like recommendations on Kindle.
50:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
50:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll read this.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I could not put it down.
50:12
[SPEAKER_00]: No, could not.
50:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like a drug and I honestly the biggest book slump happened after that.
50:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, how am I supposed to function?
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I've waited to read the night prints because I think I'm going to wait until it's sort of okay.
50:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You could do just do that because that the slump you'll be in is hard.
50:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
50:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That might be like that.
50:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I had it downloaded on my Kindle and I was like, but the next book doesn't come out until like fall.
50:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm gonna wait a minute because I know it's gonna end on another like a cliffhanger type thing.
50:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're definitely gonna be like, um, I need that.
50:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I need more.
50:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the best way, in the best way.
50:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
50:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, cannot say enough phrase is about that series.
50:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I literal drug.
50:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
50:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So what is your favorite part about having such a large audience in the book community?
50:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So, first of all, kind of feels like, I'm sorry, that's not, that's not, that's not the number next to my name, because what did you just got invited to an L.C.
51:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Silverman.
51:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So, right, like, also, I'm going to literally throw up thinking about that.
51:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so nervous.
51:13
[SPEAKER_00]: When is it?
51:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's May 18th on it.
51:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a Tuesday.
51:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going on a, on a Duke.
51:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to take a train for like the first time in a million years down into Penn Station.
51:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to have a friend pick me up and we're going to get lunch, and then I'm going to probably throw up and not be able to eat anything.
51:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just so nervous because it's like, okay, but like, what do you mean?
51:36
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you want me to come?
51:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me?
51:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I'm so intimidated by it, and I'm like, there's probably going to be like, way bigger accounts around me.
51:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like this, like, don't be great.
51:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.
51:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited, but I'm just nervous.
51:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the coolest part is literally what I do on like every other Sunday is I get to essentially utilize the fact that I have a bigger platform to then showcase other accounts that absolutely deserve more followers.
52:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the amount the creativity and like the genius things that people come up with or create.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like they just like because algorithm you just don't know like
52:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't still don't know to this day like what made something blow up and then create traction.
52:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand it.
52:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
52:32
[SPEAKER_00]: There are pages that just deserve more love.
52:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So like my favorite part is that I can then be like, well, hey, look at this person.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Go, go, go, go follow them.
52:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like trust me, you know, um, it's just like really cool to be able to I, I try really hard to like stay connected with DMs and stuff because like
52:53
[SPEAKER_00]: feeling like sometimes I'm super blind on things.
52:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I get to just connect with other moms, other people in different walks of life that just like, I just feel like I have like just a big group hug every time, like a mom.
53:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it feels.
53:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, oh my gosh, I just, it's great.
53:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
53:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really fun.
53:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get into the S.J.M.
53:15
[SPEAKER_02]: questions.
53:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you can ask S.J.M.
53:19
[SPEAKER_02]: like the whole entire time.
53:20
[SPEAKER_00]: We have, but if you're going to listen to this and know me, then you know, right, that's what you're going to get.
53:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're going to have to have you back on after we read the.
53:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, yeah, we're going to have to do this.
53:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Do a debrief.
53:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna be spiraling.
53:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
53:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So do you have any any theory?
53:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's you want to Share the next two.
53:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you guys felt red crescent city all the way through?
53:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
53:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I read the first one.
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I have this second one downloaded our advance.
53:51
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, all right I'm gonna keep this spoiler free for all those that have not red crescent city.
53:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
53:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I Here's a here's what I'm gonna say because I have to keep it spoiler free
54:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I think that you absolutely have to read all the Crescent City before reading out to Tarsix?
54:09
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think that do I think that shams a genius?
54:14
[SPEAKER_00]: She knows what she's doing, right?
54:15
[SPEAKER_00]: She will give you what you need to understand things.
54:19
[SPEAKER_00]: However, if you read especially Crescent City, three, House of Famous Shadow, I do not know how you don't under like, I do not know how I don't
54:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how what you read in House of Fame and Shadow does not pick up and have a some type of impact to one of the storylines.
54:47
[SPEAKER_00]: in the ac guitar sex.
54:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't understand like I don't think why would you write that and then not doing it.
54:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's just there's definitely crossover with ac guitar specifically.
54:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's all I can say.
55:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I know as real in the books and that's literally the only motivation I have to
55:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say anything else, but I think that I think that there's going to, so it specifically with just Akatar world and not talking to the person city, I think that we're going to see a little bit more of Nesta and the Valkyrie.
55:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that she didn't walk us through that whole process of becoming Valkyrie for nothing.
55:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to see more of her because she can
55:25
[SPEAKER_00]: she can tell multiple storylines and it still be in the same book, but I think we're going to get more of Nesson the Valgary.
55:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely obviously think we're going to go in a whole freaking journey with Elaine and this whole scene.
55:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like clearly we don't really know what her power is.
55:40
[SPEAKER_00]: What did she get in the cauldron?
55:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I feel like we're going to learn more about that.
55:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We have Coach Koshke, Coach J.
55:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do I always I can never say that?
55:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and like Vasa and like that whole thing that like Lucien went to go do some stuff.
55:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You know I mean like we we got some stuff to learn about that Yeah, um, we got so many like answered questions.
56:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We do and I feel like I'm kind of like when I do my reread I'm gonna have way more questions because I'm gonna be like, oh, I forgot about that.
56:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, yes We need to know about this.
56:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's been like three years since I've read that like I It's been a long time
56:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard that, like, if I just reread silver flames that I would probably be caught on all you need.
56:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's all you write into the crescent city to then be prepared for the next two.
56:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I jumped into crescent city one in like, it wasn't that difficult to get into.
56:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I literally isn't the first crescent city.
56:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a planet in Bryce.
56:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely adored them.
56:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I love them.
56:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Hunt is my home.
56:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's another thing.
56:47
[SPEAKER_00]: There is another couple that comes about that is my favorite and Really know more about them in book twos in two and three.
56:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, I don't know.
56:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't you should maybe Have it down with us.
57:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I have it downloaded and I'm going to read it.
57:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I just need to make myself I don't listen to them.
57:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's really good.
57:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I I understand like some people who don't love it as much But like I could not have enjoyed myself more.
57:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a great time the entire time
57:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely loved Hunt and Bryce and but wow, I was bawling.
57:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, I know now I light it up like ball and Leady La-ha-ba.
57:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god You will love it.
57:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you that you'll love it.
57:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on my summer TBR.
57:37
[SPEAKER_01]: To like, let's make it all three of us dramatic audio
57:40
[SPEAKER_00]: it's so good and it's so well done.
57:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very cool.
57:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think there's going to be emergence of these two worlds like because there's so much crossover in that third crescent city or do you think she like are there more crescent city books that are supposed to come out?
57:55
[SPEAKER_00]: There's I think they're supposed to.
57:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so like she could she could just
58:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I, um, I owe it so hard because there's certain that I think that she'll continue the story in crescent city because I think there's definitely things that she needs to answer with that.
58:11
[SPEAKER_00]: However, there is one thing specifically that.
58:16
[SPEAKER_00]: deals directly with apatars 6.
58:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And a very big character in Akatar that I don't understand how that wouldn't then keep going in then apatar.
58:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really trying to stay, spoiler free.
58:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really hard.
58:32
[SPEAKER_00]: For that, they're like, yeah, oh my gosh.
58:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But it makes sense if you've read it.
58:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think there's going to be like a specific POV we get in books?
58:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think we're going to get like all kinds of point of view.
58:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but I think we're going to get as real point of view.
58:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to get a lanes.
58:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get.
58:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to literally get we're just going to get in all all kinds of people.
58:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to.
58:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to everyone.
58:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So she's talked about it.
58:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like there's no way she's not about to feel like a kingdom of those things where we get.
59:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, all the POVs, I feel like we're definitely not just going to stick with one person.
59:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to be able to bounce around and jump around to everybody.
59:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really hope so because I love getting different perspectives.
59:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited.
59:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I am, too.
59:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm doing like a very unhinged reread of like all the mass first because I just want to soak up every little thing.
59:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And then just be able to go in and just be like, I'm ready to obsessed.
59:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this your first time rereading?
59:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't a glass?
59:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, okay.
59:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's my first.
59:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't learn any good last year.
59:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't know if I could ever reread it.
59:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I, here's what I'll say, which I was actually, what I will say is it has been even better the second time because when you're rereading it, you're just like, hold the crap like the writing was on the wall from book one.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And certain things get said and certain things get mentioned and you're like,
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
1:00:11
[SPEAKER_00]: How did I not pick up on this?
1:00:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Or like, I know what this means.
1:00:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know what's gonna happen later and it just like hits so hard.
1:00:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It does.
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
1:00:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:00:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to, oh, I have something to read listening to.
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Silverflames.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you just do silverflames, if that's all you can do, then it will be fine.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_00]: But silverflames would definitely be where I would.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It's mandatory, really material.
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my favorite one all the whole series anyways.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I love silver flames.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my favorite.
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Love love love.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to do a little bit of wood your rather.
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So would you rather have a slow burn that takes three books or instant chemistry from page one?
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, slow, slower the better.
1:00:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
1:00:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Make me earn it.
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And that that that would your rather makes me think of the assistant to the villain.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, I just borrowed that have you read that?
1:01:10
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I haven't really it's like, oh, it's like three.
1:01:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's like three.
1:01:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Collaming kiss.
1:01:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
1:01:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then yeah, that's that's definitely that's definitely it for sure.
1:01:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, no, I love it.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I want I want that yearning for
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, one perfect bookboyfriend forever or a new favorite, every series.
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I want to have a new favorite every series.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:01:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, I think.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:01:44
[SPEAKER_00]: There's always give me the ones that stick with you, but I want to be invested and be feel connected and love the characters I'm reading.
1:01:52
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it just said when we interviewed her, we have book boyfriend Blondon, literally.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_02]: We're there.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:01:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Where we forget it all the ones before.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And we just found the one that is now.
1:02:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's like, this is the hair now.
1:02:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:02:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, are you an enemy solvers or friends solvers, girly?
1:02:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I can appreciate both.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I can appreciate both.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say though, I'm gonna have to get enemies lost.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've ever rid of fantasy book or their friends.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I don't think that is, I do not know if that exists.
1:02:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Paint?
1:02:27
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:02:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
1:02:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know either.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know what?
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe someone will do it and it will be like, oh, and there it is.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.
1:02:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I just like what enemies you get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The banter you want, like, yes, an attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just like that moment where something switches, you're just like, yes, that is it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, only read romance forever or never read romance again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, we're going to read romance forever and ever because romance can be all different categories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so would you rather only read physical books for the rest of your life or only audio books?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see you know what I.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that's a really hard question because I would normally say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just physical books for the rest of my life because sometimes, if I'm listening to an audiobook, it just can kind of make it like, I don't want to do it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just want to like read it myself and make up my own voices, but I feel like audiobooks are getting so freaking well done these days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have that like, yeah, I would be sad if I then couldn't like, I don't know, just brings it to life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: say because I'm a busy mom audiobooks because that's sometimes how I can get things done too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were just talking like that's the only that's the only way we're reading right now but right that's been so crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: End of the school year because all of that is just like the only thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was clean this morning and like I just had in Assassin's play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have been able to read today if I didn't do that exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what speed do you listen up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it depends if I am just solely listening to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say if it's a new book to me I'm going to give you three answers if it's a new book to me and I've just listened to my eyeballs It would probably be like 1.7 1.8
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I know the book, like for example, Assassin's Blade, I know it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm listening to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's crazy two times speed because I can understand it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already know what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm immersive reading it because I'm also looking at with my eyeballs, it has to be at least 1.92 because I am my eyes moved too fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never ever read a book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never tried it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to try it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I feel like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just makes me just Yeah, I'm fully locked in on the book and I don't get distracted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that would be yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could see that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, I are at 1.5 and then I'll bump up to 1.2 once I earn 1.2, 2.1 whenever I get to like learn the story a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I make sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to be like a 1.0 girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: when I first started listening to audiobooks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I listen back to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, there's no way this is humanly possible to listen to it as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They sound like they're like, not they're not speaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I will say if I'm like listening to so my husband doesn't read often, but like if you do an audiobook together and we're listening together,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We like for red rising and morning sun we're at like 1.31.4 because for him, he's like, do I have ADHD like I can't be gone too fast, but he's like, I like to hear like the way they're there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: way that they're saying it, like if it's too fast and I can't really hear like them saying it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They look the emotion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, yeah, fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they have like an accent, oh, I can't go too fast, because I understand what they're saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you have listened to where they have like a Irish accent or something and I'm like, whoa, you're going to have to slow down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You definitely have to slow down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, would you rather only read the first book in a series or only read the last books?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, that's painful both ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine stopping at like a court of four, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would hurt me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would hurt me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also wouldn't want to read, but well, I mean, if I read Silverborne's, I'd be also happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, that's so hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if I had to seriously pick,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually so hard because it's a night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you could probably get the most out of the story by finishing the last book, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like the reference stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you most of the time the first book, you're really just kind of introducing stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think last book, I don't know, I guess the last book, but that hurts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think you need to twist it crowns and just read that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then like you don't have the emotional investment if you did start from the beginning so then it's just that's a really hard that's hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kingdom of Ash with more like for you on a storm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you just picked up an on a storm, how would you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have hated that whole series for a while.
1:07:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I like with throwing a glass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The witches or my main characters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I would have never even met them in the front of class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would have needed Queen of Ash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: True.
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[SPEAKER_01]: True.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a very hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a very hard question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you fighting alongside Cassian or Rowan?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Cassian for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be giggling and also getting way more like I'll be coming of Alkary with Cassian.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'll answer your question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Last question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather have Amber and dude because I could work on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we could get to or sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd rather have Amber and be my enemy because then eventually we could get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please evil could never get through to her ever and I would never want her to be my enemy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, thanks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope we learn more about Amber and I need to watch this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I think that there's a lot of theories around Amber and which is really interesting, but I just, I don't know, I feel like maybe we could get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if she can learn to love Nasta, where we're talking to her, I think we can work through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's a missed opportunity to connect where Amran is from to the things that's thrown a plus like the other worldly things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yep.
1:09:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, maybe maybe we don't know whatever these next few books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're about to get almost a thousand page book at at Cart7.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of stuff with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes me giddy, give like thicker, better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Make it as many pages as you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fine.
1:09:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't look at page numbers when I go to read a book, because then I won't read it.
1:09:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, I'm just going to book line the article on Kindle or audio book, because I'm just like whatever.
1:09:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, fine.
1:09:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many pages are in this book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I actually was reading, I'm almost on, I actually stopped to read Goldfinch from reading Kennedy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I read the entire story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved everything, like also a slave rabbinger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just go on as my, I'll throw and slay as my other fantasy book for the series, like a top tier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I saw, I don't know which one it was, maybe it was the fourth or the fifth book and how big it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I only did it on Kindle.
1:10:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my gosh, I barely made that.
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I read that like that's crazy.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they're huge.
1:10:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're huge.
1:10:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's me with the, like, I am in the, um, oh my gosh, I just left me like a spark of the
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_01]: The third one, the scared me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, it was some point I'll read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fourth one's going to be huge too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, listen, there's a lot to say, you know, yeah, and we will read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: so much for coming on.
1:10:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, thank you guys for having me.
1:10:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so fun.
1:10:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have to come back and do a video for sure.
1:11:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After the second, the book two books come out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to hold my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Second one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, very very early the next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so yeah, February for sure.
1:11:14
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have to hop back and do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's already happening.
1:11:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have to hop back and do it already happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, thank you guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This was so fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Join us next week as we talk about F1 romance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We do run over take flight as Jay Silva.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're gonna be, yeah, and all about that in the next video.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye guys.