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#242 The Period Education We Clearly Needed - With Jackie From The Nourished Cycle · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Mat quick question, hit me, do you know what the
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: follicular stage is?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm actually I'm really glad you've brought this up,
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  Speaker 2: because I actually I do know what the fillicular stage is.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite stages.
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  Speaker 3: Calar is it flick?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I'm going to be honest here. I think being
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: honest is always the best policy for it. Ash, I
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about periods. No.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I do know is that April keeps
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  Speaker 1: it in the calendar. But she doesn't write period, she
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  Speaker 1: just uses the letter P And I know.
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  Speaker 2: So talking in code, I was I was doing a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of research for this episode, and it was
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  Speaker 2: lutell lutill, and I was like, what is this? There
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: is so much and look, you may look at me
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  Speaker 2: and go, how the fuck do you not know this?
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  Speaker 2: And you're right, I should know this, but it's just
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  Speaker 2: one of those things that was never introduced to me.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: And finally I've gotten up off my ass. Well, actually,
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: Vicker's booked this in she did so.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Vic and she wanted to teach us
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  Speaker 1: about the four big peas and I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 1: Poob and Penis.
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  Speaker 4: Which I also love I do love talking about that,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm talking about periods, a man pregnancy, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: post natal saga brother and Perry Perry Chicken, Perry menaphorse.
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  Speaker 5: My bad, thank you Ash.
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  Speaker 2: And to teach us all about these peas is Jackie
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  Speaker 2: from the Nourish Cycle. She has bravely walked into the
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  Speaker 2: brand new studio. Did I mention me in the brand
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  Speaker 2: new studio?
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  Speaker 5: She's that first guest in here.
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  Speaker 1: She hit she didn't run into a shelf, But I'm
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  Speaker 1: not taking responsibility for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, we need to do any future guest
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  Speaker 2: have like a waiver, like if you have an injury
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  Speaker 2: whilst being in the sh it's not a responsibility. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she is going to teach us all, and hopefully teach you.
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  Speaker 2: My dream is that a lot of Dad's husbands will
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  Speaker 2: listen to this episode and then be as knowledgeable as
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  Speaker 2: what we are right now.
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  Speaker 1: Especially if you are growing young girls, young women, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, Oh no.
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  Speaker 5: Is that what happens. I'll find out after this.
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  Speaker 2: I dare say, raising, let's go growing. I know, I'm like, ma,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about periods now, let's do it. Just shut
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  Speaker 2: up anyway, But we actually are talking about periods right
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  Speaker 2: now with Jackie. So here is the episode.
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  Speaker 5: Enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mum.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Maddie Jay and I'm Ash and I'm Jackie.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a podcast all about parenting. It is
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  Speaker 2: the good, it.
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  Speaker 3: Is the bad and the relatable.
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  Speaker 2: And we don't give advice, Jackie, but you must. We insist,
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  Speaker 2: we insist.
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  Speaker 5: We're not allowed to, but you are.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't ever think that we would be doing a
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  Speaker 2: podcast episode on this topic.
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  Speaker 5: I always knew we'd get here eventually.
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  Speaker 2: Day Yeah, Ashes, Ash has been pushing this narrative.
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  Speaker 6: For progressive dads right absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Well said yes, I did a podcast episode with Life
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  Speaker 2: on Cut and I was open about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know about, you know, tampons and how they worked,
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  Speaker 2: pads I think, and I was, you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: verbally abused.
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  Speaker 5: You did get I did.
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  Speaker 7: I don't check comments very often, but I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be juicy, and people were like.
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  Speaker 2: Then I they were like, what a fucking idiot. I
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, it was a bit mean, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit mean, and so I've been I've been a bit.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm scared of the topic.
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  Speaker 3: We're trying to get better at it so that it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't happen again.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you've got me.
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  Speaker 2: As my wife said, you've got your work cut out
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  Speaker 2: for you today.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I did laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, good laugh.
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  Speaker 6: We were running out the door later.
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  Speaker 3: But let's find out a little bit about you first.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so do you recall the most amount of trouble
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  Speaker 7: that you got in as a child?
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  Speaker 6: Look, I wasn't that bad as a kid, but will
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  Speaker 6: be the judge of that. It wasn't close. Actually that's
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  Speaker 6: it was more aggression than anything. I vividly remember. It
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  Speaker 6: was back in the ms N days. You know, you'd
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  Speaker 6: race home after school and real chatting to whoever the
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  Speaker 6: fun were chatting to. And then the phone rang and
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  Speaker 6: I picked it up because you know, back in the
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  Speaker 6: day of home phone.
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  Speaker 3: Someone didn't have dial up.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah for yeah, I thought it was also what fo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah Thattler's over in Brisbane. We had was a rusty
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  Speaker 2: wheel and a stick, really good.
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  Speaker 6: But no, I remember picking up the phone. It was
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  Speaker 6: cool for my sister, my older sister got two older sisters,
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  Speaker 6: and I was like fuck ran sprinted and I previously
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  Speaker 6: had a fight with my sister just before this opened
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  Speaker 6: the door, hiffed the phone very intentionally at my sister
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  Speaker 6: ran out because I have to go back to my amicent.
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  Speaker 2: You were just annoyed that.
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  Speaker 6: I was just annoyed at her. I was annoyed at
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  Speaker 6: like we had a fight, annoyed at her, grabbed the
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  Speaker 6: phone and said he ran to the door, pifted the phone,
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  Speaker 6: got a phone call, run off back to my MSN.
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  Speaker 6: I would have been thirteen, And then next minute Mum
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  Speaker 6: and my sister crying are at the door and I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: what is it? Have to log off? Turn around? Big blb,
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  Speaker 6: turn around, big swallowly piffed the phone at her face.
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  Speaker 5: Split a face open, no.
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  Speaker 6: Piff pift it real hard.
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  Speaker 5: What were the repercussions of the piffing?
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  Speaker 6: I was off the MSN. It was go to your room.
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  Speaker 6: It was I also bid my sister, but I was
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  Speaker 6: a lot younger. Yes, that's the thing. It's more aggressive.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a bit worried, but no, my I reckon. I
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  Speaker 6: would have been like maybe five or six. My other sister,
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  Speaker 6: middle sister, was standing in my doorway letting me in
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  Speaker 6: my room, and so bitter arm and really successful.
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  Speaker 2: Did it draw blood? I'm very unbranded.
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  Speaker 5: You remember, we're all.
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  Speaker 6: About the bleeding right as aggressive tendencies.
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  Speaker 2: I once I was like nine, I piffed my sister
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  Speaker 2: in the face with my fist.
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  Speaker 5: Tell you what I have?
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  Speaker 2: You're buying your sister and the opening up and you're.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I tell you what a phone does that.
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  Speaker 7: I've piffed a phone at someone and put their eyebrow open,
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  Speaker 7: but he deserved a good and you.
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  Speaker 6: Can judge you on me just then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're in the room, even if you're come
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  Speaker 2: in with good intentions, everyone gets a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: bit of bullying. Yeah, that's right, and I feel like
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  Speaker 2: the ice has been broken much so. Yeah, I'll be
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  Speaker 2: honest here. I'm going to be completely transparent and people
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  Speaker 2: may judge me for this and that's fine, but I
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  Speaker 2: want to say I literally know next to nothing about
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  Speaker 2: periods other than there is blood and it happens once
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  Speaker 2: a month.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: The egg getting out of there.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, what's what's that called again? Do we know the
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  Speaker 6: embryo where the egg comes out the vagina? No, guys,
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  Speaker 6: come on ovulation?
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  Speaker 2: Oh technical technical? Okay, so I guess firstly, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it's happening more and more when ballpark in
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  Speaker 2: what age range does a period begin?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so look, it can begin early around seven eight nine,
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  Speaker 6: we would consider relatively early. Yeah, no, it sounds young. Wow,
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  Speaker 6: it can happen probably probably on the rear. And the
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  Speaker 6: average age in austrive is about twelve and a half.
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  Speaker 3: All so soon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just turns s.
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  Speaker 6: I was a ten year old. Really, I was first
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  Speaker 6: day of grade five. Yep, that's first day of first day.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: Took a sicky because I was at home and I
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  Speaker 6: was like, oh and in pain. Yeah wow yeah, so
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  Speaker 6: quite young right Again, varies for everybody, and there's a
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  Speaker 6: few different things that can influence lifestyle, et cetera. But
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  Speaker 6: that average agent is about twelve and a half.
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  Speaker 2: And so when it happened for you, had you been
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  Speaker 2: given information by your parents?
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  Speaker 6: We know, so taboo was it dad? No idea? Like,
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  Speaker 6: didn't even talk to dad about it, told mom, Mum
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  Speaker 6: goes go to your sister.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So for me and Matt's got three girls, I have
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  Speaker 7: one and she's nearly five. Ye when do you think
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  Speaker 7: is appropriate for us to both start to have that
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  Speaker 7: conversation as parents.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I don't think it needs to like with kids
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  Speaker 6: so young. I think it needs to be like a
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  Speaker 6: formal conversation right now or even ever potentially, but more
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  Speaker 6: so normalizing in the house.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Well, Laura's got like tampons are in the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom and they're like on display, and so Marley's been
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  Speaker 2: inquisitive and asked about it, and so it's been a
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  Speaker 2: very casual like, oh, this is what this does.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's the perfect place to start and start
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  Speaker 6: with those conversations earlier. You know, I'm a mum, so
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  Speaker 6: my kids always at my side, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know why they never followed down, but they're fow mom
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  Speaker 6: into the bathroom and my daughter would go, what's that
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  Speaker 6: fulling out of tampon. I'm like, Oh, it's a tampon.
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  Speaker 6: This is my period. Like this helps with you know,
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  Speaker 6: helping stop the blood come out. And she goes and
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  Speaker 6: I great, that's how you guys were made.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: And she goes, oh and then just like walks off.
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  Speaker 6: But to know, like just making it such a non thing,
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  Speaker 6: I think that's a really good place to start, is
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  Speaker 6: being open about it. It's not a taboo thing if
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  Speaker 6: your wives have their period, we just go, yeah, mom's
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  Speaker 6: got to go change your tampon, or here, I've bought
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  Speaker 6: you some tampons. Just dropping little nuggets like that along
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  Speaker 6: the way. Then when it does come to the time,
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  Speaker 6: let's say late primary school, where somewhat prepared and understand
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  Speaker 6: that what goes on?
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember could you tell that something was about
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  Speaker 2: to happen when it happened for you the first time?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Generally, most women will experience, or young girls will
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  Speaker 6: experience some kind of like spotting, which is a little bleed.
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  Speaker 6: They might get a little bit of bleed on their
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  Speaker 6: underwear in the days leading in the months leading up
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  Speaker 6: to the months later. Yeah, so before their true first period,
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  Speaker 6: most women will start to girls, I should say, we'll
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  Speaker 6: start to get a little bit of spotting here or there.
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  Speaker 6: So even like you know, doing washing, you guys might
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  Speaker 6: notice it, especially if they don't want to talk about
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  Speaker 6: it or a bit shy, a bit nervous, you might
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  Speaker 6: notice that first.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm sorry to like, yeah, no, guys, really,
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  Speaker 2: at that point, do I start like putting tampons in
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  Speaker 2: Maley's bag or yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely? I think being prepared girls, I think get to
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  Speaker 6: that age and they start to know when they're aware
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  Speaker 6: of it, right, and there's talk in school, there is
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  Speaker 6: programs at school. Most of them don't tend to start
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  Speaker 6: till late primary school, so it's a bit harder for
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  Speaker 6: the girls who do get it younger. So I think,
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  Speaker 6: you know, potentially even including it in the household earlier
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  Speaker 6: would be a great idea, just via you know, those
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  Speaker 6: little nuggets and especially with the wives getting them to
• 10:54
  Speaker 6: you know, come here a look at this if you want,
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  Speaker 6: like just be super open about it. So I think
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  Speaker 6: it's a good thing to be prepared. Girls generally are
• 11:00
  Speaker 6: aware that something is probably coming. What they're more scared
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  Speaker 6: of is not being prepared for it or leaking through
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  Speaker 6: their clothes.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine the anxiety around that would be really hard.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent. So this is where you know,
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  Speaker 6: and there's a vast array of period products we could use.
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  Speaker 6: I would suggest potentially pads or even period underwear places
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  Speaker 6: to start with girls young because the tampon can be
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  Speaker 6: a little bit invasive, which we can get into, but
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  Speaker 6: they're probably generally the more safer, comfortable options to start with.
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  Speaker 7: And excuse my ignorance, a lot of my ignorance in
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  Speaker 7: this episode because obviously.
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  Speaker 3: We're learning here too. Matt and I had a bit of.
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  Speaker 7: A discussion a little while ago about the cycle and
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  Speaker 7: how long the cycle is. Yes, yeah, everyone's going to
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  Speaker 7: be different, right, Can you give us an idea of
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  Speaker 7: what that looks like?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 6: So, period is the beginning of your cycle?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay?
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  Speaker 5: Should I write this down?
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  Speaker 6: We'll try to stay as basic as podcast. All right,
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  Speaker 6: So you start first day of your cycle is first
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  Speaker 6: day of bleeding. Then you have your period for generally
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  Speaker 6: about four to seven days is what we would consider
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  Speaker 6: a healthy period.
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  Speaker 2: And does the bleeding does it start heavy and then
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  Speaker 2: taper off or is it kind of.
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  Speaker 6: Most girls will get a bit of like a light
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  Speaker 6: bleed which then gets into a heavy bleed. Right, So
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  Speaker 6: they might get a bit of spotting, which is just
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  Speaker 6: like you know, a little bit of dark brown type
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  Speaker 6: blood on toilet paper. They know their periods coming, and
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  Speaker 6: then their first day they get real bleed is when
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  Speaker 6: what we consider day one like.
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  Speaker 3: A heavy flow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes like Laurel will say, oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: such a heavy period, Like why sometimes they're really heavy
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes they're light, or why I understand why it's
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  Speaker 2: not the kind of same each time.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, really varies, so especially as we head towards like perimenopauseias,
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  Speaker 6: things can change too, Like honestly, how long is a
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  Speaker 6: piece of string that can be you know, like travel
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  Speaker 6: can delay things go in an aeroplane. Things happen to
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  Speaker 6: the body that can delay it. Being sick can delay
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  Speaker 6: it that. You know, you can have more inflammatory markers
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  Speaker 6: in your body, which causes things to create a heavier bleed.
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  Speaker 6: There's lots of different reasons right where I say. You know,
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  Speaker 6: if Laura was like, God, my period is just so heavy,
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  Speaker 6: and it's not it's not stopping being heavy, and that's
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  Speaker 6: a change for me. Anything that's a change in a
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  Speaker 6: woman that happens repetitively, I always say, go and get investigated.
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  Speaker 6: But what causes it to be heavy?
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  Speaker 5: Very fact, Diet stuff like that.
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  Speaker 6: Nutrition absolutely, hydration, hydration.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever been yourself been like, oh this is
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  Speaker 2: kind of too heavy. I should speak to someone personally.
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  Speaker 6: No, it hasn't happened for me, but I see that
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  Speaker 6: a lot in my clinic right Like girls are coming
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  Speaker 6: to me because they've got suddenly heavy periods or they're
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: constantly anemic because their periods are so heavy.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Which is another thing women have to deal with is
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  Speaker 6: anemia iron deficiency which can cause you know, all sorts
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  Speaker 6: of feelings, emotions, energy level problems, et cetera. That another
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  Speaker 6: thing that women have to deal with.
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  Speaker 5: So the first week we say is.
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  Speaker 6: It's your period period. So it comes next So day one,
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  Speaker 6: first day of bleed, we divide our cycle into two sections.
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  Speaker 6: We got forollicular phase, which is phase the first half,
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  Speaker 6: and then we've got lou t or phase, which is
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  Speaker 6: second half.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard of that one, Yes, good, he would have.
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  Speaker 6: Then we whilst we're bleeding, we're in our filicular phase.
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  Speaker 6: We're already having follicools come to the surface of the ovary,
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  Speaker 6: prepping to hopefully get pregnant or get fertilized. Right, So
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  Speaker 6: inside each follyicool picture the ovary lack a big mine
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  Speaker 6: and down the very very bodym is all the eggs
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  Speaker 6: a woman will ever have. Then across months, it takes
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  Speaker 6: months for a bunch of follicles to rise to the
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  Speaker 6: surface of the ovary and get to the top of
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  Speaker 6: the mind. So that will happen every single month on
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  Speaker 6: both ovaries about ten to twenty follicles is generally somewhere
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  Speaker 6: in there will come to.
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  Speaker 2: The surface, and that's the one that.
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  Speaker 6: They contain eggs. Each follicle contains an egg.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Then, as we progress through our flicular phase, one of
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  Speaker 6: those follicooles grows bigger and bigger and bigger, and that's
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  Speaker 6: the one that we'll end up ovulating. Now, in this
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  Speaker 6: filicular phase, this is where it's all about estrogen. We
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: get a big rise of estrogen, a big surge of estrogen,
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  Speaker 6: which then triggers the brain to say, hey, brain, we're
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  Speaker 6: ready to ovulate. And then the brain goes cool. Ovary
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  Speaker 6: is ready, and it sends out a hormone codlutinizing hormone,
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: which if you ever trying to conceive and you're doing
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  Speaker 6: an ovulation stick test, that's what that measures.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: Way I'm learning already.
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  Speaker 6: So lutinizing hormone triggers thanks to this big eastern surge,
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  Speaker 6: and it's the most amount of ister and a woman
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  Speaker 6: will have in her cycle.
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  Speaker 2: And is that good or bad?
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: That's good?
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  Speaker 6: We want that, you got that right, So we have
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  Speaker 6: that big surge and then that triggers ovulation, so that
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  Speaker 6: follyicool that grew bigger and bigger and bigger. That is
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  Speaker 6: the one that then ruptures and that releases an egg.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: Then you've got about a twenty four hour period where
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: that egg can get fertilized. Now, whether a woman wants
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: to make a baby or not, your body is always
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: trying to make one, right, Okay, So we've now released
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: that egg. That egg then travels into the flupine tube
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: and hopefully meets the sperm, and if it doesn't mean
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: a sperm, it will start to travel down into the uterus. Now,
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: ovulation is a trigger point for the lute your face,
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: So where that folly cool ruptured, right, that big follicol ruptured.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: The egg that overnight turns into a gland called the
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: corpus luteum, which is why it's called blue corpus corpus luteum,
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: corpus l cotton.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Corpus corpus luteum.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: This is like sounds like.
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: Harry Potter's hum. So that corpus of team overnight grows
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: up to about four centimes in size, grows its own
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: blood supply. Yeah, only like one of the non disease
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: tissues that can do that. Pretty like, this is where
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: women are just amazingly that's up to yeah, so it
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: can get pretty big, right. Then that gland is a
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: super energy hungry gland. It requires a lot of energy
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: to do its thing, and that is what secretes progesterone.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: So then the second half of the cycle is all
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: about progesterone. This is where ovulation is the main event,
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: because if we don't ovulate, you won't make progesterone, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: that can become an issue, which we'll talk about. So
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: then you've ovulated, corpusly team is made. Progesterone surges right up.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: We then at ovulation time you get a minor drop
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: in estrogen, okay, drops by about twenty five to fifty
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: percent at ovulation for short term. So some women can
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: also experience some problems and symptoms at mid cycle too,
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: which is probably something you liss just like, oh that
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: makes sense.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: And can I just check the corpusly TM, well said,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: thank you. Where is it happening in the cycle?
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: So that's mid cycle? That will all right. So we're
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: roughly anywhere between really day ten to twenty, but a
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: roughly day fourteen fifteen sixteen.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: You will ovulate fortnite in a fortnight, yeah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right, and at this stage a woman will also
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: start to see some slimy mucus in a underwear, which
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: we can talk about MICUs later.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Is that discharge, Yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: Discharge discharge, well, interchange.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: Discharge.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: So again, when ever you're doing washing with your kids
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: as they get older, the girls, you can even notice
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: discoloration on the underwear because it's acidic, and you can
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: get secretions or discharge which change color under a completely
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: normal So you've ovulated. We're now making bulk progesterone. Okay.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: Progesterone is all about holding the endometrial lining in place
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: and transforming it to hopefully help it hold a pregnancy,
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: because remember, your body is trying to make a pregnancy
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: and if it doesn't then we end up with a period. Okay,
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: so progesterone surges, we get another mini surge of estrogen
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: in the second half. But it's all about progester throw really,
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: and if we're not getting that progesterone, all we're getting
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: is another second surge of estrogens. That's why ovulation is
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: so important. They work kind of together. They're kind of
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: like a in and yang hormone, all right, they sort
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: of level each other out. You're so many things.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Now, I'm.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: Then we get to our right before our period. We've
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: got progesterone up, we've got estrogen up, and then we
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: get a big plummet where those hormones fall away, which
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: then triggers the uterine lining to shed, which then triggers
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: the period. Now this is the time where husbands go, oh,
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: she's got a period. I would never be right, Yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: this is the time and you would too if you
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: guys lost your testosterone by about you know, eighty percent
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: in a weekend, in two days. The thing that makes
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: you strong, that makes you keeps your muscle, that keeps
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: you happy, that keeps you libeto up, that keeps your
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: energy up. Imagine if that plummeted.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Right, it would be such a whiny little bit.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Me copper.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: As soon as they get little bit sick of money.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But actually, in our defense, that's why it hits us
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: so hard because we're just not used to it. We're
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: not used to we're not used to the rocky road.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You know, okay, exactly a calm scene ever made a
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: good sailor.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, right the way, thank you? Sure? So
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: then yeah, you guys are so strong, Yeah, so strong.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: That's what it is recovery, You're done. But then that drops,
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: and then that triggers the uterine lining to shed, okay,
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: which is then the period. So the period is a
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: big inflammatory event. All right, we have all these inflammatory
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: markers coming to that area to help remove the old
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: uterus lining. So basically the first half of the cycle
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: where we get all that estrogen that helps to build
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: that lining, creates a new tissue, new wall, and then
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: we get progesterone helps to hold it in and helps
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: transform it to be really healthy for a pregnancy. And
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: then if we don't have a fertilized egg could trigger
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: progesterone to keep being made. Then the uterus lining sheds away.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: And then you've got uterus lining, you've got inflammatory fluid,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: and you've got blood. So a period is actually a
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: combination of all three of those things.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I thought? What I thought the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: period started with the blood. I thought the cycle started
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: with like we'll get rid of all the old stuff.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: And start fresh.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: But it's actually the way. There you go.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't know.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: There you go. We're learning something every day.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: You don't start off with the blue.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: I've always said that you finished off with it wow,
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: and it's like starting.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: It's like a new day you dawn.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry, just trying to make it make sense in
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: my brain.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: And then there be like make ash.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Make the period is the symptom of the ovulation, right,
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: And if we ovulate and we do have a fertilized egg,
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: that egg then burrows in on that uterine lining into.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: The wall and there's no agrant and.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Then there's no period because because that burrows in, your
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: body goes oh yeah, it starts to send out all
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: these chemical messengers and then it goes cool. There's a
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: pregnancy here. Progesterone continues to surge, which is why pregnant
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: women get the pregnancy glow, because progesterone is it's the
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: healthy hair grow all of that, right, pedestrogesterone, progesterone an
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: hidin also surges too, and then their pregnancy holds in
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: place and then there's no shed because it's burrowed into
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: the union wall. Then your body will start to take
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: over that corpus luteum, which has about a ten to
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: sixteen day lifespan in a non pregnant cycle, so that
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: also dies off because that doesn't need to make progesterone anymore,
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: but that if there is a pregnancy that will stay
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: alive for the next ten to twelve weeks until the
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: placenta is formed, then the placenta makes all the hormones.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: This is wild, am I correct? Insane?
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Probably not?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: It's done well so far that you have done. My girls,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: they currently in their body have all the eggs they
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: will ever produce in their lifetime already, So.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: That little mind down the very bottom of the ovary
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: has all the eggs. So really, Laura carried her grandchildren too,
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: so fu yep makes sense what I know. So when
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Laura had your girls in her womb, your girls had
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: all their eggs already. Yep. They'll have the most eggs
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: I ever have when they're in utero and.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: You can't gain more.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: No, you are right now. We keep got what you've got, yep.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if we only had limited sperm, and
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the more.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: You're just like, here goes here got.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: A little fella.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Gets eighteen.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: More. So yeah, and that's the thing, right, You guys
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: can essentially keep going with sperm, and you can also
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: make a baby any day you want. But a woman
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: could only make a baby once a month.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: And that's why a lot of people freeze their eggs,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: right because you only have certain amounts?
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Yes, and so statistically by age, as you get past
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: thirty five, it does get harder. You know, women are
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: being more career driven now, the cost of living, all
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. They're not sure, so they're start
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: to freeze eggs. Freezing eggs is kind of like an
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: insurance policy, not a guarantee.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: And do you think as we evolve as humans that
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: age is getting pushed out because I mean people are
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: having babies later.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Yes they are, but infertility rates are rising.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, right, yeah, so it's not actually like as we evolve,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: Actually it's not catching up. Yeah at least not yet.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: That will take thousands of years. But yeah, no, so
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: we're not. It's yeah, there's still in fertility rates. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: think a part of the rising rates is because women
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: are having babies later.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, So how like just so I understand because I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I don't really know how much blood would come out, Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: like are we talking like like a cup.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: Or around twenty five to eighty mills. Somewhere in there
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: is what we would consider a healthy period, which actually
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: equates to double that in fluid, So that's blood. So
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: if you got a heavy period, let's say you've got
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: one hundred meals coming out, you likely have one hundred
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: mil of blood and two hundred mili of fluid.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Wow, and that's over there.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: But that would be the course of the week. But
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: that would be a heavy period. So you know, no
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: woman is going and measuring what they've got. But if
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: you're changing your tampon a pad more than every one
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: to two hours, less than every three hours, if you're
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: changing it quite frequently, we would consider that heavy tampona pad,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: you should get about sort of three to four hours
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: out of missing at all. That's what I mean.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: The other day you said, isn't it? Was it a
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: whole day?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because I never said that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Trying to make you the bad guy.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I said that in confidence.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Sorry, it was on a podcast.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: So when that happens, right, your first one and then
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that's it, right, then you can't It's going to happen
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: every month pretty much.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So again when your when your girls first get out, right,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: it can be inconsistent. You can have a lot of
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: the periods that we do. You get an ann ovulatory
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: meaning that no egg's released because your brain and your
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: ovar eas in how I said, the LH comes out
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: and the progester and the issue they're between brain and ovaries.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: It's like a big group chat between a lot of them, right,
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: and then they're signaling to each other. But if yeah, msn,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: if you will, it takes some years to develop that relationship, right,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: So it takes a couple of years to really establish that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: So the first year or two can be a little
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: bit of regular, right, but then thereafter it's pretty good
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: to go.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: It's crazy, how like, by I mean my wife's still
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: thirty five, how in tune she is with her own
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: pure and it's not it's obviously like the same amongst
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: a lot of women. They're like, I know myself, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: it's it must take all those years obviously of really
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: like paying attention to your body, which is crazy because
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: there's no way a man could do that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: No again, and this is where right, like, so yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: we're talking roughly monthly. So an average cycle is anywhere
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: between about twenty five to thirty five days long, So
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: that's period to period. Okay, twenty five to thirty five
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: that's quite a big Yeah. Most women will sit within
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: like a plus minus one to three day. So let's
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: say I get a thirty day cycle, I might then
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: get a thirty three, then a thirty two, then a
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: twenty nine, then a thirty. Can that's a healthy variance.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: When we're getting huge variances, that's a bit of an issue.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: We're looking at things like peacos, p moss, etcetera. Yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: holycystic ovarian syndrome or polycystic metabolic ovarian syndrome which is
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: the new name of that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Don't make it easier.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Doubt is hard because it's.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: A lot, right, A lot can ask you a really
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: quick question.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: Is it an ick if your partner also follows you
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: tracks your period?
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: No, that's a big green flat.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I kind of mention his name Tom, Tom.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, shout out to Tom. He does not track it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: But what if he did?
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: But think he knows? I think he knows where I'm
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: at in each cycle. But no, you can't. So that's
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: the beauty of period tracking apps. Now you can actually
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: you yourself. Guys can log on and sink in with
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: your wife's app, and then you know where she's going. Yeah,
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: so clue and flower. I think it's the two bigger
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: use of friendly apps that most of them will use,
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: and your partner can sink him to them, so you
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: can literally look on your calendar go oh, Laura's opulating,
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: let's go.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Do you think Tom tracking it makes you feel more
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: supportive if he's aware of where you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: I think it depends on the woman. I'm a very
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: open book, and I'll say to him let's go, right. Yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: So I think it depends on the couple, but it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: definitely I would consider it a great thing if it
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: means that you're going to be supportive with it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Imagine if there's a dad listening right now and he
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: puts the podcast down after it's finished, and he's left
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a review and goes, hey, why don't why don't we
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: use this app and I can track your period? She'd
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: be like, what the fuck?
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: I would be in love with him? Really, yeah, boy,
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: if you're listening.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Anyway, you're just all these other people.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: So I think that's a great thing if it means
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: that you are going to now be more in tune
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: with your wife and support her right or your partner whatever. Yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: I think that's the great.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Thing to do. So the beginning of the cycle, yep,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: day one. That's not the ovulation phase.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: No, So day one is bleeding.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it's bleeding at the start, so.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Ovulation in the middle, and then a bleed is essentially
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: the end or the hormones drop off that triggers the end,
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: and the bleed starts the new cycle.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Bleed at front and back end, bleed.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: It turns into the one.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it turns into the one end. So the circle
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: of life, yeah, circle of life. Oh yeah, so it's
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: like the day one. Yeah, Day one of is when
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: you're bleeding. That's the first day of your cycle. Then
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: you get through middle phase, you ovulate, then you get
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: through the hormones drop off, and then you start bleeding
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: again from that one. Yeah, it flows off. But we
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: technically call that bleed the new cycle.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: And so your body because sometimes I'm like, wow, Laurie
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: is really horny.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because the hormone.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Because the hormone.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Estrogen is a huge mood boosting So this is the thing, right,
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Estrogen builds up the endometrial lining. However, it is all
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: also there as a mood booster runs like directly in
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: line of serotonin, you know, a happy hormone. Right, it
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: helps to boost your mood boost libido. Testosterone also rises
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: at ovulation time. Okay, so that's why increase libido. Yep,
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: So we're getting these mood boosting benefits. Each ofden is
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: also there to help support bone health, muscle mass building. Right,
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: it's a real energy building like growth type hormone. And
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: then he got progesterone, which is made in the second half,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: helps to hold the end ofmentrial lining in place, helps
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: to support a pregnancy. But then it is also like
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: the calm.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: It really does take a village.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all these different things. So progesterone is the
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: calming hormone, right, the one that makes us feel relaxed,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: level headed, anti anxiety, works on our mood. So as
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: much as the hormones are there to help make a
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: baby or not make a baby, they're also there to
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: do things all over the body, right, is just but yeah.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: I'm so interested.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: It is wild what a woman's body goes through.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: And that's the thing, right, So you know, every we
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: look at it as a month, but each week is different,
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: and in particular, ovulation time twenty four hours is extremely different.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Your bulk estrogen and then it drops and then you
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: get to progestering like it's very different.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Week to week forever.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, until menopause.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at from from my perspective, when
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I think about the concept of periods and like this
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: is not correct. So just before you come for me
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: with pitchforks, my appreciation is changing. But I was just like, oh, yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: it's when my bleeding when you get really moody and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: really cranky.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Delicately, that was very delicately.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: Where's that knife gone?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're not You're not Look, I'm gonna die
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: on that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Sort with you. You're not wrong?
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, yes.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Because like how can we How can I understand like
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that once you have that like the rollercoaster, like the hormones,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: like the impact that it has. How did you describe
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: it before of the like the drop phase.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: When so right before your period you'll have both progester
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: and easter in the plummet right off, it's like, you know,
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: let's go, let's talk footy. If I send out, I said,
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: now my whole can I go AFL we go on rugby?
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: The real sports? So rugby?
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: How many on a rugby on the field eleven thirteen thirteen?
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: If I send out all thirteen players on field ace.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: All right, we're likely to we're likely to win if
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: I send out two. How good is your team going
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: to be? All right, that's like your hormones. We're bulk,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: we're great, we're going well, and then we plummet.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: What if between the quarters I go not only two
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: of you are going out? Everything dies down, not enough energy,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: not enough time to run, can't get the ball as well. Right,
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: everything's going to function a lot poorer because it's not there, Okay,
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: And that's what happens with hormones. They plumb it off.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: And that's where the moods come in.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And is that when sometimes women will be like I
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: just want to eat like chocolate.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: So remember me corpus ly team.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Team Corpora guy team corps.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Super metabolically active, meaning he requires lots of nutrients and
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: lots of calories, lots of energy. Right, that also secretes
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: progester and progester and raises the basil body temperature, meaning
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: that it raises our body temperature in the second half
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: of the cycle too. So when people are doing fertility tracking,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: you'll hear about temperature tracking. We should see rise in
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: the second half of the cycle.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Because if you're tracking, you could be like, oh a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: corporsely tm, I can here's a sandwich.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, to support.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Yours really hungry.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Good news is I've already got a sweet treat for
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: you right here.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, you know, if you're synced in on the app
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: and you come home, which kind of wife am I
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: coming home to today?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: She's luteal phase. Let's come home with the bottle line
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: and block a chocolate. Oh yeah, you are winning.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I want to do.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: In terms of like, obviously your body is going through
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: a lot from antal perspective, but then I know that
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: hot water bottle with the cramps. Yeah, physically, what does
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that feel like? And obviously everyone's different, but for yourself.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: With cramping in particular, let's how do we describe it?
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Vic God twisting your internal organs and like a stab
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: of the knife at the same time, this.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Is like the the minds.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Yes, it's getting worked on, getting chipped away.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Like when I had that parasite at that time.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Have you ever I don't want to ask, you're on
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: your own. Have you eaten something bad and you get
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: or twisty and.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: That?
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: But then like in your pelvis and it's almost like
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: heavy feeling, yeah, thumping, it's things I will But again,
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: so knowing your daughters too, a painful period is normal
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: to a degree, Okay, so we want to be careful
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: with making sure that we're getting them support if we
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: need to.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: As wellel, I feel bad being like and then it's
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: going to fucking it's gonna twist and it's.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: Going to turn.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: So, a minor pain that might need an eurofern or whatever,
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: that is somewhat normal. But if you are stopping your day,
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: if you're crouching over in pain, that is not normal.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: And that could be things of like signs of things
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: like endometriosis, which is a huge issue for a lot
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: of women. It takes about seventy to ten years to
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: get a diagnose speaking, the only way of diagnosing is
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: a laproscopy, so a surgery. This is where women's health
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: is so far behind.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Endometriosis is.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: So the endometrial lining is what grows inside every month
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: to hopefully help holder pregnancy, and then that's what sheds
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: right then what can happen in endometriosis is where you
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: get endometrial like tissue that grows outside of the uterus. Yeah,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: so like another layer, not necessarily layer, but like pockets.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: So it can happen on the ovar is, it can
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: happen in the abdomen, and then women can get lots
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: of pain. They get like a period pain up here
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: rather than in their So it's very painful. And remember
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: when I said ovulation, you get a mini short term
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: estrogen drop that can also trigger pain of that endometrial
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: like tissue during the mid cycle. So a lot of
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: those endometriosis sufferers, they are experiencing pain mid cycle, whole cycle.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: I've seen patients that are in pain all month and
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: like it can then cause scar tissues, scar tissue, it
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: hears and then you know, picture me like trying to
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: pull gum apart, like it gets really like and then
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: you move and exercises a problem. Yeah, it's a very
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: hoverable condition.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I'll be using my period as an excuse every other day. Sorry,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I can't record today.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: I can't imagine.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: But that's the thing though. Women have to say that
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: because they literally can't function in their day and then
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: you feel shit because then your boss is going, what hell?
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: But it is, it's happening, and women are getting dismissed
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: for it, but it's actually a real problem.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: That might lead us really nicely into some questions we got,
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: because that's actually one of the first questions we got
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: from the days we put it. We put it out there,
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: and we have a very strong DODA community, and we
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: appreciate them and appreciate you answering their questions. But that
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: just tickles me here because Ashley ro Dan, she said,
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: how hormones affect moods. My boyfriend said a period isn't
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: a valid reason to feel off.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Oh god, I know they're rage.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: Sorry to that man if he's listening, but oh my god,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: it absolutely does. Like I said, if you guys lost
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: your test us to rain two low levels within a weekend,
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: can you imagine what would happen to you. That's the
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: thing that bruce your mood, builds your muscles, keeps you
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: from getting fat. You know that happens TOI on a
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: monthly basis where they have this beautiful dose of progesterone
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: and esygen. Like I said, they're there to help boost
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: your mood, help with bone health, heart health, muscle health,
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: immune health. They do things all outside of just making
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: or not making a baby that then they plummet off.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: That causes a big.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Mood shift, and then also the pain and then the.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: Pain, and then they're trying to function in their day.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: They're trying to go to work, they're trying to run
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: the household, whatever they're doing, still at that same capacity.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: Have you guys ever like, have you ever been on
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: your iPhone and you're like, you're that when you're in
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: a low battery mode it gets to like five percent
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: and it gets a bit glitchy, like you're trying to
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: do things and it just kind of liitches out a
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: little bit. It's like that, like you're trying to run
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: up full capacity, but it just isn't quite right. And
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: then women will start to build up their estrogen again
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: coming out of their bleed, and then things start to
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: regulate it and they start to feel a bit better.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Right now again in saying that, some women can get
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: something called PMDD, which is post menstrual dysphoric disorder, which
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: can be a huge, like it's a sort of a
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: hormonal imbalance. So if not enough progesterone is made, we
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: can have issues where they get extreme moods, like quite depressive,
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: quite anxious in that weak prior to their bleed, and
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: then once they get their bleed, they're relieved of it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: So again that's another real condition that exists.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, totally.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I think user as an excuse because it legitimately is one.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: And if you look at those times in a woman's
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: life such as postpartum and menopause, perimenopause where hormones drop
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: quite rapidly, you see the mood changes.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: You can't deny that.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Is there anything that women can be doing to promote
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: healthier periods?
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, which a.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Lot of things we're looking at. You know, I'm always
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: foundations first, like healthy nutritious diet as much as possible,
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: high fiber, lots of protein, lots of whole foods, trying
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: to stay steer clear if you take away foods, you
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: process foods, not too much alcohol, and again everything balance.
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: But if you live majority of your life in a
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: healthy way, then you have those treats on the side.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: That's really important. Sleep is another one, getting good sleep,
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: stress levels, managing stress, and then checking in on your
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: nutrient levels is really important too, especially you know I'm
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: biased here nutritionists, but checking in on those basics B
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: twelve iron, vitamin D which is so often so low
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: in a woman just topping them up. They are basic
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: foundational nutrients that help support our bodies processes because people
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: have to get like an iron infusion, yes, when it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: really bad, When it's.
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: Really bad, is there, I mean there's obviously direct links
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: in there that yes, yeah, is there. I mean obviously
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: intaking of iron, but the iron people have to get
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: a fusion, Like is it just they're just lack iron.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Or yeah, well when you're removing and not topping in
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: as much as you can, and that's issy deficiency. Yeah.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: And then when hemoglobin, which is the oxygen carrying molecule,
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: when that gets really though, that's what triggers the infusion,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: right mostly, But again, so yeah, eating iron rich foods
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: in particular, if you've got a really heavy period, there's
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: some things that you can focus on, we can get
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: really niche. But from that general point of view, foundations first, food, sleep, stress, exercise.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: See I know some women who are athletes and the
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: body would they would stop the period.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Bodybuilding can't happen to me. Yes, So he stopped completely.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: So we were talking before record, and then Jackie was like, oh,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I used to do a bodybuilding we were talking.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: She was flexing, she was just squating.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: At She was like, how did that come about, that
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: you were missing your period?
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: I was on the pill at the time. Actually I
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: was twenty two, so ten years ago now, and I
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: started this bodybuilding common Within a month of officially starting,
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: my period just didn't come. I would always get my
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: withdrawal bleed, which, by the way, when you're in the pill,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: it's not a real period. It's called a withdrawal bleed.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: It's probably conversation for another day. But so just didn't come.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: So I had nothing there, and then I was like, oh, okay,
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: so I just stopped taking the pill and then nothing
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: ever came. And it was because of such a big
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: loss of body fat, which is protective of your organs.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: Fat itself is active that sends out hormones and all
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: sorts of things, which is why also obesity can be
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: a problem because that can disrupt things too. But when
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: you lose so much body fat, basically your body is saying, hey,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not healthy enough to hold a pregnancy. We're not
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: going to ovulate all right, And that all comes back
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: to the brain. The thorough communications woul between that and
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: the ovaries and making sure that your body is getting
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: enough energy to actually support a pregnancy, because remember, whether
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: you want a baby or not, your body always wants
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: you to have fun.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Right, And if the body is that we are not
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: in a condition where we can sustain a pregnancy, we're.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: Not going to do it. So there's low energy availability, yep.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: And then that causes the brain signaling to get a
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: bit awry, and then we're going, now we're not having
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: a baby. It's a protective mechanism and going, we're not
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: healthy enough to house a baby right now. And look,
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: I totally get it, Like there's aspects of life where
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: that's important for that woman at that time she wants
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: to hit her goals to whatever sport it is. But
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, you're not going to
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: be getting the hormones in that beautiful cyclical pattern. When
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: something like that's happening, tends to mean low hormones, not
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: enough energy.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking of questions from dogs. I've got one here
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: that I would like to ask. This is from Sarah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Sarah. Sarah spelled essayr a hater, thank.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: God a normal spelling.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: She says, I have an eleven year old daughter, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: we have early signs of a period. Five weeks ago
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: she had a couple of days of light bleeding but
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: nothing since. Is it normal get a bit of bleeding
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: when you get your first period and then nothing for
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: a while. She's well prepared and super emotional, and we
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: talk about it a lot. But this is one thing
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not too sure on.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: Yes, so absolutely is normal. As I said, the brain
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: and the ovaries communication, that takes a while to get intune,
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: so that first year or two it can be a
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: bit of regular. You know, have annual villatory bleeds. So
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: again we're just building up estrogen, but then never getting
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: that dose of progesterone. So that hence the mood because
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: progesterone is a beautiful anti anxiety hormone, right, So then
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: that's happening. It's all just trying to figure itself out,
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: trying to figure out the lay of the land, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: then it will become regular. So yes, normal, don't stress.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: Just be prepared more than anything, with having you know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: school bag, top dart things at home.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: I love how prepared there is congratulations being prepared and
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: the communication is amazing.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think and everyone's different here, but when you
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: think back to your first period, how do you wish
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: your mum or your dad would have reacted and what
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: kind of communication would have helped you in that scenario.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: It was so taboo for me. What was that when
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: I was like two thousand and four, I don't know.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: It was just like I was Dolly doctor, like you know,
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: sell the section, you peel the thing off.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I love that section.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: That and my sisters and even then my sisters and
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: I didn't really talk about it much. I just think,
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: like I said earlier, laying it in from early around sons,
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: around daughters periods and not a taboo topic. We talk
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: about it and we don't slam it either. It's oh,
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Laura must be on a period. My dad used to
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: say that she must be on a period to me.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: And I'm like af when I hear someone say it
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: now these days, like in and around wherever I'm at,
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: it gives me the it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Is it's really like I can I'm here, I'm here
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: for the banter. But that really pisses me off when
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: that happens, right, because it's like, well, fuck, you lose
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: your hormones, you deal with it, and then and then
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: you tell me how you feel right, like, yeah, exactly.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: It's I don't know if I'm like and again, everyone's different,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: but I kind of want to celebrate it, like, yes.
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: Period party, let's do it. Yeah, we one of the
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: that's weird, my daughters be like get in year seven.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: The girls we pretty much all had our period, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: one of the girls was late. It was like the
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: end of year seven's like approaching nearly fourteen. And then
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: she got a period and we all had a huge
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: party and we all gave her like he's tamp on,
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: here's a pad, like we're all helping her out in
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: the school work. And then the next then the next day,
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: bless her. Mum made muffins for every color. Let's go
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: with red, but we'll go with red. Yeah. So yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: celebrate it because it is it's like at the next
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: stage of life, like here we are. You know, you
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: celebrate when you go to school, when you get your
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: first goal, when you do all that. Let's celebrate this.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: Why not like turn it into a thing. It's exciting
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: rather than oh shit, I was.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I was very late to get hit puberty, and I
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: was just begging for puber care.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: I was, so you know what though, that's the thing
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: you guys would start to know because the girls will
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: start that the nipples start top out first and then
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: the boob start to come along. You need to get
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: cropped offs and bras generally before the pure to come.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: So how do you have that conversation?
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: I think your daughter will probably approach it or you
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: just sit down and say, hey, I think we should
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: go sports brush shopping. Don't get some new clothes and
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: start there, like make it again a thing, Let's go
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: buy some new clothes something like that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I think my daughter would be like, Dad, please, like,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: don't fucking come to us.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: You're going to talk about it on your podcast.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: And that's a good point though, like women don't need
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: things to be fixed for us when it comes to
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: this stuff that we need support and not turning your
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: nose up. I remember, so I used to use a
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: menstru crup and at our old house we had a
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: double shower. Tom and I would always double shower shower
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: next to each other. That was like our catch it
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: was our catch up time, right, And then once I
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: literally just in front of him, pulled my menstra cup
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: out and tipped it down the drain and he was like, oh,
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: and I turned around him. I said, don't fucking kill
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: your nose. I'm like, that's going to make us a
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: baby one day. And he goes, oh whatever and gets
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: all that about and then I'm like, yeah, no, like
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: I get it. It can be a bit like in your face.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: But also shut up, you know I can't control what.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Do you call it? Sorry, I'm going to be stupid. Second,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: not protection? What do you call utensils? What what do
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you call?
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: What what items? Sanitary? I'm speaking of sanitary items. Would
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: you be able to run me through myself and ash
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: sanitary item options? Because I know, like a tampon? Yeah, sure,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I now know that a pad sticks to the underwear?
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: Where did you think it's stuck?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Although, actually, can I just for a hot second, there
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: is actually a product I was served in ad for
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: it on social media. It's a waterproof swimming pad attaches
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to the ad alabia.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, that's a newbie. So anyone who's like doing
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: the right thing you said.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Lay not just so if I was.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Where is the LaBier?
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: It's the adalypse.
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: The adalypse. You got majora minora, the ada lipse like angels?
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: Yet you got the ad lips, which is like the
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: skin and then the lipslips.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I'm going to the medical terms from now.
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: So you find that I have Yes, clearly, I have
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: show and tell. Let's do this great let's quiz. I
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: remember one? I mean podcast. I know we've got the videos.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: Long cotton fabric looking what shape rounded? What is this?
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: That's a pad that is well done?
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: Is this?
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Now? This we pull the sticky back off and that
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: sticks on top of the underwear, right, all right, if
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: you're helping your daughters now, you want to make sure
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: that it's like it's like a pretty clear guess where
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: you put it, like right in the middle of the underwear.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: You don't want to go too far forward to lake
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: not well, yeah.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: That way.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: And now as you can feel that one, you can
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: feel that it might lose its sticky bit. That's where
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: I'm a big fan of these guys that we call wings.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: That where that guy was, So this one is pad
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: with wings. All right. I'm a big fan of this
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: because it stops it from sliding around. So that goes
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: on top and then you curl them under the underwear
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: and stick them in like a sticky bit.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Thigh and you could if you're in your the phase
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: of cycle you're bleeding a lot, you could be going
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: through how many pads in a day?
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: In an ideal world with a healthy bleed, we would
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: be changing a pad every three to four hours on
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: our heaviest day. However, you can get a heavier bleed
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: than that or a light of bleed. Okay, so some
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: women will need to do Some women do it hourly,
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: which is where we get into heavy territory where generally
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: something's up right right. So that's again if your daughter's
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: like dad, I'm going through these like every hour and
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: I'm linking everywhere. Help me speak to GP, Speak to
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: you GP. Go in the doctor, get some blood work done,
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: have a chat about the whole thing. So they're the
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: two ones that are really good to start with. Second
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: good one to start with. I mean, look these what.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Would you go there?
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: Period underwear, period underwear. They've been around relatively new, yeah,
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: a few years now, so you can see the lining
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: all right, that can that will absorb the blood and
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: then you.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Wash it and have you tried these before.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: They are Yeah? I love these as like a fail safe.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: So like you know, day one, two or three is
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: maybe your heaviest day. You can put your tampon in
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: and wear that as like a backup, especially if you've
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: got somewhere to go or something to do, or you
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: want to wear white clothing or something. They're a really
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: good backup.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And these are the great option if you think you're
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: getting that spot bleeding with your young child.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: First, yep, April has those.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: They take forever to.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Dry after you wash them absorbed. Yes, yeah, thank you.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: Good And now look you can get that's that's one brain,
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: get a whole ray. You can get now some cool
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: like lacy ones that look a bit nice on because
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: they're a bit granny panty. But again, no one really cares.
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: They just want the company come home. Then we've got this.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Guy's on you. That is a rocket ship.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: It's a menstr cup.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: It is a menstrual cup. Well done. So what would
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: you call it? Conical? U shape?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: May I touch it?
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: You can touch it? It's silly, can Okay? So that
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: like what the yep?
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: This one that feel like inside you.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: When it's improperly show when it's improperly you really can't
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: feel it. But these guys are a bit tricky. But
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: if you're someone with like a heavy blee. They can
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: be a bit helpful because you can generally store a
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: bit more fluid than what say a tampon could.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: And and I'm assuming that like kind of nipple end
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: is to like pinch to.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: Let me show you how you do it. So this
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: one you generally have to do like a shit sea
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: shaped folds. You do that, you fold it over, create
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: that little sea and then stick it in. So you
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: see what I mean, quite invasive. So you stick it in,
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: then you push it up, and then you have to
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: make sure it pops open.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And can I be really stupid for a second, you're
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: going to lub that up before you consern not necessarily No,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: you can.
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so it can be a bit dry. But again
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: remember you got blood and stuff going on, so it's
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: all so, but it is.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: You lub it up it much about Yeah, yeah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: Maybe that goes right in up and then catches it
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: all okay, And then there's like you need to make
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: sure it pops open. You got to kind of run
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: your finger around it or like twist it a bit
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: to make sure it pops open. Bit invasive. It's probably
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: not the first thing to go for.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: If you are wearing that is that something you would
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: check on.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: You generally change it once a day. On your heavier days,
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: you might want to change in the middle. So that's
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: where they're really good, right, so eco friendly keep them.
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: You put them in boiling water at the end of
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: your bleed and that disinfects it, and then you boiling
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: water it again when you start your bleed, and then
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: put it in so I dearly like put it in
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: the morning, empty it at night, put it back in
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: for nighttime, empty it in the morning.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: And so then if you're working and you're having a
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: heavy bleed and you're like in wearing a menstrual carp
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, I've got to go to the bathroom.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: So it's a tricky point. Wow. So if you're not
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: like in a disabled toilet where there's a sink, So
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: that's again a part of the problems with these guys, right,
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: they're a bit inconvenient if you've got a heavy bleed
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: and aren't eating a change it again. You could do
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: this and your underwear, so you think of your period
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: or sanitary items like a toolkit. Generally women will use
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: a couple in some way, shape or form, like you
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: would choose you put your running shoes on, if you running,
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: tweet things and when you going down the beach. You know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: they're all for different functions. If I've got a heavy on,
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: my heavy bleed, got an important day, I'll probably wear
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: you know, a cup and my period and is just
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: to make sure right. But see what I mean, this
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: is a ship woman got to deal with. I'm just like,
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: on a monthly basis, I wouldn't be able to keep
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: up with it all if it was if I had
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: to do it, I'd be like, I don't.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: Know how you guys do it.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Forget your period again?
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: You can forget, you can in like oh, and then
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: this guy everyone has forgotten and linked at least once
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: in her life.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean April.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: The other day she was her periods in our family calendar. Okay,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: so I'm ware around out the time.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: But the other day she was like, oh, just leaked
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: to her.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, obviously she was like having a
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: heavy flow.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: You can feel it sometimes you can literally feel like
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: a gush, like water bottle squeezing it. You can feel that, Wow,
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: you get this. And then this guy everyone knows that
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: one cotton a little plug tampon tampon well well done down,
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: So this fine doesn't just go and sit in like
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: that like on the edge. You have to push it
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: up so you again finger in your vagina and it
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: grows up in how far about like a bit of
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: a finger. It depends on everyone's vagina versus where the
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: cervix is deep you vagina? How deep?
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Yeap? And how do you like? Is it one of
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: those things like you'll know when you've got the spot?
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't feel it once it's in there. Put
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: it that way and if you're feeling it, it will
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: be uncomfortable, like you know, if the daughters are now trying.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: You can also get tampon applicators. By the way, it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: like a big bit of plastic that goes and you
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: push it up so you don't have to put your
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: finger in.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, quick question for you, Matt.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Do you know how big they get?
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: There? We go that's probably not quite full. That will
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: get a little bit bigger. Whoa, yeah, So it's like
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: a sponge.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: My goodness.
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: And so when it's full, it's full, and then when
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: that gets full you can lick right, So it's about
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: changing at the right time, and they can be if
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: you're on like your light a day, maybe it might
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: be your last day. If you bleed, that won't be
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: completely full, like it all swell up like that, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: you might get like only a little bit of blood
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: on it, and then it can be a bit paying
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: foot pool out because like it's dry frictioning, it's meant
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: to be absorbent. So that's like, oh and then one more,
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: oh more, what's that cute? That's just a liner that
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: yees aflash for you. Ash, Wow, this is a lineup okay,
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: so you can be used on like the last day.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: There's just a bit of spotting which is just literally
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: like a fu trickles of blood. Also like mid cycle
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: with mucus and everything going on, discharge which can happen.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Women are meant to have discharge that can be in
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: there to help protect underwear and just feel a bit
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: more comfortable as well.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: It's sticky on one side.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: Yep, you same as a pad really, but just thinner.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: This is I'm excited for the future, the moment to come.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your kids got real question.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: I got this real question is if your girls, like
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: any dad's listening, if your girl's got their period tomorrow.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Would you know what to do, absolutely not.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is where this sort of stuff is
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: so important, just basic education of knowing that. Let go
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: to the supermarke gravit all.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Let's right.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: But I would say, you know, pads and period underwear
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: probably the best place to start for a new me
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: less invasive.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: As you can see obviously that first periods are a
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: little bit of regular, but so you get the spot bleeding.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: You could be wearing the say because I like the
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: idea of the undies, yeap, you could be wearing them
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: for like a couple of weeks, right, because you're not
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: quite sure.
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, you could just keep putting them on if
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: you're not sure when it's coming, or again, like you know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: when you're a couple of weeks. But you know, you
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: can be prepared with spare underwear as well in the
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: bag because yeah, they might bleed onto their underwear, yeah,
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: you know, or to pack an extra school dress as
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: well because it can link. Generally when it's earlier, it
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: won't be super heavy, like they'll notice spotting before it
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: gets heavy. But you never know. Everyone's different. So the
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: other thing too is that period undies are also great
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: for when you're sleeping yep. Again, you can do like
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: a double. You can put a tampon in if it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: heavy and do the period undies. But they're super comfy
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: for sleep. Just a great second option because you don't
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: No one wants to be waking up covered in blood.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: You wearing period undis when you were younger didn't exist?
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: So what would you do?
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: We wearing pads pads? Yeah, and then I reckon I
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: got onto Tampa after a couple of years.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Who ever invented the period well done?
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, real big.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Growing up? Is this field an area that you wanted
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: to always work in?
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: No, it actually wasn't so. I actually wanted to be
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: a coroner one day.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I've anyone who had what.
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: A forensic pathologist? Dead bodies, figure out how they died
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: cutting them. Yeah, no, weirdo. I used to I've got
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: this real big thing for crime shows. But anyway, No,
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: I've always loved medicine, always love the body that I've
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: always known. It used to beg my mum to stay
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: out to watch er.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: Right, that's just George cl so handsome.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: Oh no, no, I'm not a cl fan. No, the
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: other dot I can't remember his name. He I used
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: to like him. But anyway, so I've always liked the
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: human body. Right then, I think a big stem for
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: me was probably the bodybuilding comp When I lost my period,
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: it irritated me that I couldn't get the help that
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: I wanted. And women's health is often quite neglected and
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: you're often quite dismissed or pushed off for a psychological
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: symptom when it's actually a physiological problem. So that definitely
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: stemmed it. And I went and I actually studied my
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: first degree in prosthetics and athotics, making pay calms and lengths.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: I used to do that, Oh wow, yeah, And then
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: went back to you and I just didn't love it
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: when Bauccini studied nutritional dietetic medicine, which is where I
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: am now. And then I've just got a real I
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: love human biology and love the biochemistry of it all,
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: real big niche of mine, I find. And then it
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: just really drove me into women's health. I think passionately
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: from the bodybuilding can't losing my period that was the
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: real big driver, and it's just something that I just get,
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: like it just flows off my tongue for me.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: You know, a fridge full of old body parts to.
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: You at my sister, and now we're here.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: As dads. What are some of the things that we
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: shouldn't say to our daughters about periods?
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: Oh, she's in a period, you know, that tone, that
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: that dismissive, that she's clearly moody. That's not good for anybody.
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: We don't need to be fixing things too, right, It's
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: just about supporting and being there. And it's not a
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: taboo thing. You know, if she needs a tampon, go
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: and get a one. It's just about being a support system,
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: really and not degrading it, not believing it, not making
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: a taboo. I think that's really important more than anything.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: And welcome to womanhood. No one wants to hear that,
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: or it's just a part of being a woman.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Dialogue, party poppers, so they're.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: Sort of the biggest things. It's just about the support
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: and not turning your nose up to it and not
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: going ill. And then sons, you know, I can only
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: imagine my son's only two and a half, but you know,
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: boys a little turns. Oh yeah, I can only imagine
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: him being like, eh, don't condone that behavior, all right,
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: you know, change that And it's about you know, healthy masculinity.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: I think that's all really important too. So even you
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: know when we're educating and not to doing and you
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: know Law or April are like changing their tampon and
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: the sons around, don't not do it because he's there.
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: Do it in front of him, expose them to it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: It's my thing. It's just it's just another day. If
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: your sons are asking, you would just I would just
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: say it's a part of growing up. It's what eventuates
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: to you know, if you want to have children, that's
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: what it's there for. It's just a normal part of
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: your body, just like breathing, eating, sleeping. It's just another
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: thing that happens to women and not men because women
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: are the ones that make babies. Really, that's what it's for.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: It's a bit I don't know who to blame for this,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: for those people out there who have started this narrative,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: but like the stork brings the baby and they come
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: from the cabbage from.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: It's such a Disney way of saying, yeah, kids.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: Again, just be real and like you can call it.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: It's I think it's also an important thing to label
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: your body parts appropriately, especially when it comes to the
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: safety of children et cetera. You know, labeling penis vagina
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: only eye touch it whatever. Yeah, those things are really important.
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: So for any dads listening today, just sitting here for
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: the one hour and taking this knowledge in, you're going
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: to be doing so much more than the average dad
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: to support your wives and daughters through really their life journey.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: Women spend forty years men straining, So it's important that
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: we know that for our wives and daughters, the.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Bar is low support it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: And that's that can be so easy, right, I mean,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: by just doing those things.
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: Listen for an hour and your fucking don't don't slap
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: my bum in my little face. That's what I was
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: my husband, he goes, he slaps me on the ass,
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: and like you know, it's the beginning of my cycle. Finea, Tom,
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: do better, Tom better, don't touch.
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: I saw a video the other day of like someone
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: doing that where it's like slapping the bat at the
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: wrong time and then it just comes up with like
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  Speaker 7: his funeral memorial.
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  Speaker 6: Literally, the same act can be irritating at one point
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  Speaker 6: in your cycle, and then the next point it can
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  Speaker 6: be a turn on.
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  Speaker 2: So wow, having some self reflection all that time, I
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  Speaker 2: almost feel this sounds really were like this little emotional
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  Speaker 2: connection to like the mind of the female body producing
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  Speaker 2: these eggs, and I'm like, go on, you mine, it's working.
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  Speaker 6: So it's hard, Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 2: And then it comes to the end of its life
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  Speaker 2: cycle when periods will stop. And I'm going to assume
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  Speaker 2: that happens when they're another eggs left in the body.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly right. So as we start to age, we start
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  Speaker 6: to hit our perimenopause. Use, so let's do some definitions. First,
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  Speaker 6: Menopause is defined as twelve months without a period, So
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  Speaker 6: it's a you kind of diagnosed after the fact, right, right,
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  Speaker 6: So once you've had no period for twelve months and
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  Speaker 6: you know around that late forties, early fifties age average
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  Speaker 6: age of menopause in Australia is fifty one. Once you
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  Speaker 6: hit that, then we're officially in menopause. But perimenopause is
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  Speaker 6: the lead up to It's almost like puberty again, but
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  Speaker 6: on the reverse. What happens to the body yep, So
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  Speaker 6: about seven to ten years prior to actual menopause, that's
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  Speaker 6: how long we can get symptoms for yep. So really
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  Speaker 6: late thirties is a sign to start watching out for
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  Speaker 6: things like perimenopause in saying that, make sure you get
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  Speaker 6: checked up on things because it could be another condition
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  Speaker 6: that we don't want to just neglect. Four perimenopause. But
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  Speaker 6: it can start happening in late thirties, which is wild,
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  Speaker 6: which then means women go from potentially having a baby,
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  Speaker 6: all the huge rise and drop of postpartum, which is
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  Speaker 6: a conversation for another day, then into perimenopause. So perimenopause
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  Speaker 6: is the egg start to get less. So, as I said,
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  Speaker 6: you know, you have all those follicles that come up
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  Speaker 6: to the ovary, they start in the mine. It takes
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  Speaker 6: a few months to get to the top of the mine,
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  Speaker 6: and then rather than they're being you know, maybe fifteen,
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  Speaker 6: there's now six, now five, four, and now there's only one,
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  Speaker 6: and then it gets to none, exactly right. And so
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  Speaker 6: during that time, women will some months have a completely
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  Speaker 6: normal cycle, some months they won't ovulate, some months they'll
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  Speaker 6: ovulate but have a really low progesterone level and a
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  Speaker 6: really high estrogen level, which it tends to be where
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  Speaker 6: it starts. So your brain is trying to signal to
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  Speaker 6: the ovary and say, hey, we need more eggs, We
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: need more eggs. So it's trying to push these follicles
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  Speaker 6: to come up, and those follicles will actually stimulate the estrogen.
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  Speaker 6: So then women get a lot of easter and they
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: get really heavy period at the beginning and a shortened cycle.
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  Speaker 6: So that's generally the first sign that a woman will
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  Speaker 6: get is a heavier bleed than normal and a shortened cycle,
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  Speaker 6: but only like a few days. So if I have
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  Speaker 6: a thirty day cycle, I might now be getting like
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  Speaker 6: a twenty five day cycle, and it's been all of
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  Speaker 6: a sudden you start to notice it. Oh, and now
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  Speaker 6: my mood's starting to shift a bit and my periods
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: are getting heavier. Then they'll switch to lighter. Se your
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: periods will go from really heavy to quite light because
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  Speaker 6: you're potentially not ovulating. The estrogen's getting lower, and then
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  Speaker 6: we get less of a build up of that lining,
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  Speaker 6: which creates the lighter bleed, and then we get to
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  Speaker 6: no bleed at all. And now the issue with that
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  Speaker 6: is if you zoom in, your progesterone and estrogen are
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: roller cooaster up down, up down, up, down, updown, and
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  Speaker 6: then if you zoom out, it's this like giant dive
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  Speaker 6: going down. So you have such a severe shift up
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: and down, up and down. But really you are slowly decreasing,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: well not slowly, quite quickly decreasing compared to say a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: man's testosterone, which will decrease with age. But it's kind
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: of like this gradual, like cruisy river ride down.
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  Speaker 2: I feel guilty, sorry about that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is where you know, modern medicine, hormone
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  Speaker 6: therapy is really fantastic in this era. That's a conversation
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  Speaker 6: to have with the doctor, but that is there as
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  Speaker 6: a support for women and you know some like honestly,
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  Speaker 6: the perimenopause patients that I see which we do supportive
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  Speaker 6: care with and we work in with the doctor and
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: their hormone therapy and trying to you know, negate as
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  Speaker 6: much as we can. They're different women. They're like borderline divorce.
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  Speaker 6: They don't know left from right, the brain fog. They're
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: forgetting their keys. Vaginal atrophy and dryness, meaning the vagina
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: is getting is shrinking and getting dryer. So you can
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  Speaker 6: imagine that with then low progester and low estrogen, low testosterone,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: low libido. You know how much fucking tension that will
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: cause in a relationship. Of course, my vagina hurts it's
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: getting smaller and I have no libido in me right, So,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: so hormone therapy can be a huge wonder, but it's
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  Speaker 6: such a volatile time for a woman and a lot
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: of relationships can suffer when it's unknown by the man
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: and when the conversation isn't had. Yeah, so again, anyone
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: late thirties and beyond, if the mood is is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: quite cyclical, you notice it like right before you have
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: your period, things are getting really hectic and you can
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: potentially start to go, okay, maybe this is a perimenopause thing,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: and just yeah, having the conversations with your partner and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: going I don't feel quite right or I think I'm
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: going through perimenopause. I might need a bit of extra
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: support and for you guys to be like, okay, what
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: can I do for you? And you know, maybe it
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: means taking off some of the mental loads, not just
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: doing a task, but doing all the preparatory steps to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: go to the task right, like oh good, and while
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: to go out and get the shopping. But if you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: need to ask for what the list is and what
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: we're low on, that's another part of the problem. But
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: you know, there's things like that that can really support
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: a woman who's going through such a volatile time where
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: the mood boosting, the anti anxiety, the bone building hormones
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: are starting to deplete. This is why postmenopause women, they
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: increase risk of diseases, last ole diseases, cancers, heart disease,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: diabetes increases after menopause because you don't have those healthy
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: doses of those hormones coming through.
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  Speaker 2: It's not fair, is it? Yes? Why fair? Literally the
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: discrepancy between men and women.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, we get erections of random ones.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: At any slight movement, and guys, apparently we tuck them
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  Speaker 6: under the belt.
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  Speaker 5: We do.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. There is so much that I don't
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: know about it, but I want to say thank you
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: so much for explaining in a way that for me
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: is really easy to digest. And I think there are
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: so many dads out there who will benefit from more
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: information that hasn't been as available to them as it
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: should be.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: I can guarantee any dad's listening. If you've sat here
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: for the hour and listened, you will know that much
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: more than someone who hasn't. Just learning basics is so
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: huge because then you can know how to support it.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: That bit better and just being there riding the wave
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: with the women alongside, because it's wild. We go from
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: periods to them potentially a pregnancy to postpardon which wow,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: and then into perry and then menopause.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Well, you're doing great work, and you, guys go, it's
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: been a pleasure being on the wave for you to thank.
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  Speaker 6: You for having me.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: I'm going to my wife's cycle, yes, and I appreciate
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: you coming in and spend some time. So we're going
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: to sit down again and go through the rest of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: everything else that there is because this was so much,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: so much to do.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you Jack, Thanks guys, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: We always brag Matthew about it now that we're dads
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: and we have toolkits. But do you have a sanitary toolkit?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm going to do one for
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: every room in the house when it's time to go
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: out with the girls and buy the sanitary items. To Laura, I've.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: Got this, I've got this. We know where the wings go.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Now. Although I do recall one time, there was only
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: once or twice when Laura said, can you go out
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: and buy me a tampon? It's very confusing the amount
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: of times fun it was fun. It was like half
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: an aisle of the supermarket was all tampons and I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: was like, there's just too much to choose from lots
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: of different sizes. Is there a that's like that's phase two?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how I googled.
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  Speaker 2: It, but a huge shout out to Jackie for teaching
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: us because it was it was such an important conversation
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: and you know what, Ash, we.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Didn't even get halfway through it, so she's gonna have
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: to come back.
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  Speaker 2: Knowledge is power, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. Brother, Please, brother, and.
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  Speaker 1: If you've also enjoyed this episode, don't want to hear
• 1:07:12
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  Speaker 2: And give us a comment your favorite sanatory item please.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: And your size anyway.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not laughing at that.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: Why too far?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: But this is serious? Why this is like, come.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: On, there's no shame in sizes.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I just want to know. I'm curious.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: You can join us on Instagram, Facebook, shut up for YouTube,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: but for.
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  Speaker 2: Now, keep on cycling.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Keep on cycling, girls, we'll follow it.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Send me cycles please, bye bye?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Can I be really quickly? I'm so sorry to be
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: dumb here because you the bleed at the start and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: the finish. But the first bleed is eight days.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: The first bleed who is day one? It's generally about
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: a four to seven day bleed, and then we go through,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: we ovulate and then we make the gesterone the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's like the the curtain connector.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't put in yet bookends copy.
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  Speaker 3: That's a better analogy than the curtain connector.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we bleed that triggers day one. So there's the bleed,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: the period and then the cycle is the whole length
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: from bleed to bleed.
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  Speaker 3: But the bleed to bleed book nds the same bleed.
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  Speaker 7: We pay our respects to their elders past and present
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