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Episode 258: The Ark (SG-A 3.16) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and fifty eight Stocking Stargate Atlantis. I'm Mitch.
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There's Maddie Hey, Brandon, Hey, mate, here we go.
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Simple. I mean, I'm not. It makes me feel like you think
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that I expect, like, you know, something huge at the start of
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an episode, like no, I was going to do something, ok because
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last week I'm yeah, I didn't come in pre planning to play the Billie
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Eilish song for Bad Guys. And it's fine. We haven't done this in
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a while. I'm out of practice. Okay, okay, okay, Well,
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here we are Atlantis now. I mean we said last week for Bad
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Guys too, that you know, we joked about two episodes episodes ago with
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the Landry and I'll wait till next week, and we were very much talking
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about the SG one episode with Bad Guys, but then which one of you
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was like, oh, hang on, I guess it works also for the
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next Atlantis episode as well. Look, I know I've said a lot that
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you know. Season three of Atlantis is peak Atlantis, especially the back half.
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It builds. It's great. I love it. It's some of the
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best best I get around. I didn't remember this episode so I would like
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this episode stricken from the record of any any praise that I've given to the
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back half of I mean, still better than last week's SG one. Yet
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he was going to are you are you joking? No. I like the
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idea that they hold out out at the moon. I like the idea that
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they went that they were in that raith thing for like a thousand years or
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however long. They don't even know the concept of that to save their race.
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I don't even we haven't even read the synopsis yet, and you are
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just throwing out just the most salacious thing, like what what it's not even
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a moon. Let me tread the bloody synopsis and then we'll get into this.
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The arc investigating an abandoned space station, McKay mistakenly brings one of its
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scientists out of stasis. The scientists explained to the team that the bass was
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the last effort by these people to avoid the repeated culling they've endured by the
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reef. I read that while I started this episode and I had no member,
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I had no memory of what this episode was going to be, And
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twenty minutes into this episode, I still don't like, didn't remember I was
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like, is this the lost episode of Stargate? Like what remember? No
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memory of the name of the episode or anything. Yeah, I think in
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my brain maybe, Like I think the arc is is Inferno from last season
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where the big Orion class vessel or whatever the volcano, Yeah, and the
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volcano and stuff like that. I don't know whether I thought it was this
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or I don't know. Yeah, I I mean, it's not really a
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moon. They keep saying it's a moon. That's no moon, isn't it.
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I thought it was. It's so small. Hey, some of us
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have small moons. Okay, there's nothing wrong with small satellites. That's what
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you do with it. Yeah, Jupiter has like forty eight moons, but
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they're all smaller than ours. I think, so your a size queen,
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is what you're saying. I just think it's it was in a low orbit
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according to McKay, Yeah, and a rocket pushed it out of its orbit.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't know many moons were of spaceship compulsion.
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You're one of these people that thinks Plu shouldn't be a planet. You're
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you're pro Pluto not being a planet. Are you just going to declassify it's
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like, nah, no, that's Neil Grassy Tyres and I was about that.
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The thing is that no one else realizes that there's actually three other planets
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that they discovered. That's why they changed Pluto to a planet. Yeah,
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we've talked about that, but we grown upstrating. We're just on that.
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Like we grew up planting Fluido was a planet when we were born, right,
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and then it got declassified as because they didn't covered two others didn't.
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It brought back and then back again, like I feel like it's been classified
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as a dwarf plane because there's three others. There's only been one change,
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so there's been like yeah, it was a planet as we were growing,
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and then it was made into a dwarf planet and that's it. And then
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there's three others that don't Mucky Mucky series yeah and a series. Yeah.
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Yeah, I didn't know that three literally one Planet X. Remember growing up
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and they there was something that we heard about Planet X. I still think
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there is eleven year old. It was the most amazing planet next meaning ten
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in Roman numerals, right, so that they still reckon there is a dark
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planet out there. Yeah, because it's like Pluto hasn't even made like one
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rotation as far as we've been discovered it. Yeah, since we discovered it
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has even made one rotation around the around thing. But it's also like,
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just recently they discovered a couple more planets for I think it was either Saturn
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or Jupiter. The moons, yes, sorry moon, Yeah, discovered a
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couple more moons just recently. I think I forget which one it was because
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I want to say, I want to say I always remembered it as Jupiter
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being the biggest, but Saturn had the most satellites. But now I think
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they've discovered like another twenty on Jupiter, which pushes it back up to having
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the most amount. It's like, I'd have to look it up. It
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might even be in the eighties or something. Because of this insane this so
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called moon. I mean, it wasn't spherical in nature to my like,
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it was just looked like a comet or a spherical requirement for it to be
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a moon. No, but I mean, get a better moon, guy.
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I think it's very weird that this is your hill to die when there's
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so many other problems with this episode. It's just well, the thing that
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annoyed me was that the fact that he the after he'd turned the aft burners
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on on a shuttle and it pushed the Moon out of orbit. That's crazy.
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This whole episode was crazy to me, the whole premise. Do you
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know how much energy it would take to push that out of one? I
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mean, how much energy would it take for them to have set up that
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whole base inside the moon in the first place. Yeah, of course,
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and dock the two shuttles inside it. But I mean, they do static
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burns all of the time, and that doesn't push Earth out of the orbit.
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Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, just strange. The
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weirdest thing for me was the fact that the whole premise of this episode is
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like all the people are inside the bastardized wraith beaming thing, Like all the
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people are inside there, and they're saying, we can't take it with us,
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Like they could have just disconnected it and put it on the jumper and
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we will would have been safe. And everyone's going, no, we can't
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do that because it needs to go into the shuttle because there's a power sauce
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in there. But then at the end of the episode, they just wheel
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it disconnected from everything. They just wheel it in there, and then they
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have the audacity to drop this line at the end because the baselines of police
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internal power switched automatically. Looks like internal power switched automatically. So it had
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an internal power source the whole time, I think. So all it had
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on the shuttle was the right kind of bracket to hold it in place,
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I thought, he meant, I thought, I just assumed it came from
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the ship, Like there was the power, but it's internal power source kicked
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in. Kind of weird. Yeah, so to me that was that was
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the weirdest part. And then also the dude who offed himself and and ruined
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it for everybody, Like what was his motivation? Yeah, why do you
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have to bring everyone else with you? Just kill yourself. Yeah, we'll
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just go back into the thing. So, like I just didn't buy it.
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So he said at the start, he spent his entire life creating this
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sanctuary to save his people, and his payment for that was going to be
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that his wife and child were going to be part of it. He went
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up and did his thing, He got put into the stasis thing. Shit
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went down on the planet. The whole second device didn't make it up here,
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so there was thousands of people that didn't make it, including his wife
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and child, and so because of that he's decided to He's like, okay,
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well my entire race. I'm not just going to kill myself. I'm
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going to kill everybody that's in that little stasis Podec as well as my cad
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I love you so much. Yeah, I would commit Jewish genocide, Jewish
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side and slipt feelings. That was the stumble. I'm just actually clear at
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what I said before. Depending which one I'm clicking on, it's give me
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different things. Saturn actually does have the most. It says Jupiter bose ninety
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five moons, but Saturn has the most moons with one hundred and forty six.
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Yeah, see that it's not about the size. Is that what you
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can do with it? That's date of September last year, which only in
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February last year, twenty twenty three, it said Jupiter had become the most
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they'd found twelve more satellites, which pushed it up. But then obviously they
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used the same tech and found a shit tone more out in outside of Saturn.
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But I did also about the moons. Some moons are large enough for
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their gravity to cause them to be spherical. Well, smaller moons appear as
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to be captured asteroids, so it's not related to the formation evolution, so
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they don't have to be round. But if they're bigger than ever to be
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important enough, then they would be round. So that's what you said,
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get a better have to know, but they just get a better one.
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But would you rather? Would you rather one big one or two little ones?
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You know what I mean? Like Mars No, that was a penis
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reference. It's like would you rather one ten inch deck or two five inch
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decks? What I mean? Either way, it's gonna bigger than what you've
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got dicks toes and dicks for fingers, picks the fingers obviously everything. Ever,
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at least you can wear socks like you dicks flopping around everything. Yeah,
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but I don't want to be towing someone. I don't want to be
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fingering something. You like reading aloud and you just got that dick swipes?
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Yeah, how does that? I was going to say, built in highlighter.
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You have to circumcise every y the clippers. You're all thinking, just
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make handshakes with it. I reckon it, make a fist pump. Weird
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you just got fisted. What's that? What's that? What's that joke that
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sealipp Aquala does where she goes what what? What are the things you hang
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from your lobes? Ear rings? What are the things you you're the rings
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you put in your toe? Toe rings? What if you put one in
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your belly button? Bellying? By ready? What about this one that you
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put on your finger? Why is it called a ring? And why is
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it not called a fingering index ring? Well, you put on any finger
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and then there's a whole bit about you know, oh my god, he
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just proposed he gave me his grandmother's fingering. You know, it's the fingering
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that his grandfather gave to his grandmother. It's so beautiful what I did like
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with this episode, I think the coolest part for me, and I guess
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it's a sign of how laying the song was. Just the moment of like
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Roan putting his shoulder back in like the way he just like like locked it
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into that little thing. I was like, it didn't really work either,
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No, not really. As I say, he's been like till when he've
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been watching like back catalog of movies he's seen lethal Yeah, two, three,
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and four, he's seen him enough, but it didn't look I mean,
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we've seen enough footy games where you know that that's not how you put
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his shoulder back in. No, I believed it because I haven't seen enough.
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Oh well, the idea is you meant to actually get lower. Your
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body's meant to be lower than your hand and pulls. I'm think these are
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sci fi riders. I don't think they've seen a lot football games either.
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I mean, yeah, look look up, just located shoulders. No,
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I'd rather, I'd rather look at fingerings. And then the preck destroyed a
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perfectly good puddle jumper. Yeah, like destroy everything. I hate that guy.
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Yeah, I actually liked him at first. It actually reminds me of
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Lifeboat. It's Lifeboat to dare you well, just to like the concept of
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this whole new race trying to survive to the next and they're in stasis and
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YadA, YadA, YadA, come out. There's there's a thousand people in
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there. Well, there's a thousand people in Daniel's head. There's that kind
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of genesis of trying to get save an entire life. But is that season
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two early season seven? So I'm thinking of it. I'm thinking seven.
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Yeah, I'm thinking in Atlanta thing. Sorry, I'm thinking of the what's
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the Atlantis one with Duet where the chicks inside roted mine. No, that
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where the ancients are in the computer the lost ship. That's the Computerora.
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Of course it is, right, So I'm thinking of Aurora, and they're
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all like, they're not it's not quite the same, but it is still
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like, you know, they're they're almost technically kind of in stasis, right,
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they're sort of from way back like it's but that was They're in those
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little statis pods, right, so yeah, but they're not like in there
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there they still consciousness was in the Yeah, so that's the bodies. Yeah,
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it's it's not it's not the same, but I'm just thinking kind of
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the same in the sense that it was that a season two episode of it
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of Atlantis. Yeah. Yeah, so it's just like one episode per Sorry
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I was talking about life, but okay, yeah, that's usual life.
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But I'm like, I remember that, and it was Aurora that I was
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thinking, just picturing people in like fluorescent white fucking classes walking around. So
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I was took the kids to a playground and then there's this mum, you
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know how you get those mums that just scream out of the kid's name.
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They don't care. This little girl's name was Aurora, and I could not
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stop laughing, Like Aurora's that he should be. She's a Gilmore Girls fan.
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You know what, That's just for our American listeners that would love the
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way that we say, Alora, We're going to the car, Aurora,
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Aurora. Put your shoes on. We're leaving the park. Get in the
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car, Aurora. We're leaving the park. Go find the carts parked in
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the car park, Sable car Park. I can't believe you liked this guy.
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I couldn't. I'm not going to say I liked it, but it
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just reminded me of other episodes that were good. See. I wish I
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was smart enough to think of, like, I want to compare like a
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really really good movie to like a really shit thing that just has like the
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slightest little thing that's similar about it, and be like, yeah, that's
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like comparing these two things. But I'm not smart enough for that to But
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yeah, and I I just I couldn't. I couldn't justify I like this
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set. The set was cool. Set was cool. I just couldn't justify
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either of those characters' motivations. So like whatever that first guy's name was,
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whoever the guy that decided, he's like everybody because it's like, this is
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the last thing that he says to us, Herrick, I understand how difficult
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this must be for you. I too have lost many loved ones to the
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wraith. What I feel was not caused by the wreath. Still, if
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there's anything done enough, it actually was. I do not understand if you
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had never come, if I had never awoken, and last thoughts would have
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been enough. The hope for the future and I love I have for my
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family. I never want how to feel what I feel now. Gather your
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team and leave this place, Harrock, he would have, I'm doing so
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good as you if only you, only you, he's literally but yeah,
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it's like he could have just spaced himself. He literally could have just locked
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himself and and just spaced himself. Instead, he's like, no, I'm
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going to go and fire up this rocket engine. And he even said in
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that speech is like hope for the future, and you would think that meant
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hope for the future of his people, who he just spent his entire life
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trying to create this lifeboat for them, and he's like, you all,
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I'm going to kill my entire species. Just so crazy. And then maybe
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it's just a side effect of this people. Maybe they're all retarded. I
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don't know, because then the guy at the end, when he decides to
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like hold Taylor at gunpoint, it was clever in that he ended up putting
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Taylor inside the device so that we had to retrieve. I think that's why
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it reminds me of lifeboat, because they shove it in Daniel's head, so
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they have they have to save dangerous so you have to save those people.
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I've got two problems with it. So when he's got Taylor at gunpoint and
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we're taking forever to cut the door, cut through the door, if I
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was Shepherd, I would have just been like, okay, shoot her,
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because if she dies, we live without you and your entire species dies,
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or you open the door and let us in. Those are your choices.
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Either way, you're dead. Then where was when we needed exactly And then
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maybe I would have believed perfectly. So maybe if we'd given him that ultimatum,
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I would have believed him. Then putting Taylor in the device as like
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the next step. Here's the problem though, once we put Taylor in the
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device, Rodney smartest man in the galaxy, in this galaxy as I can't
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differentiate her pattern from anybody else. But what happened at the start of the
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episode, Herrick, when he finds out his people aren't there, goes to
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the device and just happens to pull out the leader, like the what do
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you want to call him? President or whoever he is. So it is
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capable. You are capable device of pulling out that person. So it's like,
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so maybe you had a code, right, So wouldn't you type in
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one thousand and one and see if she pops out right? Just you know?
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So yeah, I just think it was really clunky. I needed some
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more explanation for that to be born. And yeah, the whole power source
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thing I think was a load of craw How many power? It's always a
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this yeah right show, so we haven't got enough power? Why, Yeah,
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she'd have so much power? And it's based on Raith tech and it's
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like, okay, well we know Raith tech. Yeah, like we've we've
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had we've dealt with this situation before. So because that wasn't that Literally the
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problem with due when we're trying to get them out of the Wraith beaming thing
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is it's like, yeah, we know, look there's the two patterns.
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We don't know which ones which will pull one out. But so it's like
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we know how to do that, we know how to hack Wraith tech.
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It's like, how different could this be for them not to be able to
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just go yeah, okay cool. It was weird in that in that very
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same scene you were talking about with Taylor, because they're like, all right,
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I'm opening the door now, just as John's just finishing the welding thing.
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He unlocks the door and then he and then he dies and puts him
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and Taylor in the device. Wouldn't Taylor do something? Yeah, Like you
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would think he would have to have, Like, even though he had her
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at gunpoint, he would have had to have And I think that's specifically why
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they shot it outside of the rooms. He didn't see it, because to
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do all those things, he would have had to have taken his off her
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for a minute. And again, she's a badass warrior. She could have
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disarmed you they're practicing. Yeah, all would have all would have taken was
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for him to look away for a second. For her to close that distance,
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disarm him and knock him the out. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah,
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yeah, no, it wasn't a fan. Wasn't a fan of this one.
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And then there was that lame thing right at the end where they just
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go, oh yeah, Jamas didn't survive reintegration. So I actually would have
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preferred if he had just gone, you know what, had a gunpoint bang
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bang bang, she's in there. He opens the door and he goes,
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I put her in there. Yeah, and then he dies to save these
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people. Yeah. Yeah, it would have made it more interesting for him.
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But it's like at the end, these two characters we meet that shit
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cunts. Yeah, like both essentially committed suicide for no reason. Yeah.
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Like I'm actually like I kind of wish this species had become extinct, Like
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this race had become extinct, because based on the two people we met,
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they don't deserve I like the idea, they're just the pure concept of being
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that thing for a thousand years. I'm like, oh yeah, hard yeah,
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files. Yeah, but I just think, like I didn't buy the
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whole, Like I didn't buy Herrick getting all pissy about the idea, Like
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it's not like I mean, maybe they were supposed to be intentionally deceived or
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whatever, but I don't feel like the regent guy, whoever he was was
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actually I believe that Herrick's daughter and us was a daughter or something. I
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know, wife and child. We're definitely going to come up. But the
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leader had to make the choice that when the Wraith invaded, He's like,
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well, if we launched this other ship and it discovers, we're all dead.
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So it's like in a in a show where we've already seen Satita,
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we know how it can be when the Wraith attack. So it's like,
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I mean he would have lost people before. Yeah, yeah, imagine imagine
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if Ronan had gone back to Setita and seen that his entire planet was destroyed
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and gone, well, you know what, I'm going to commit suicide and
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kill everyone else around me. Up Atlantis, Right, that's the equivalent of
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it. Like, that's how weak willed and pathetic both these characters were.
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So I'm like their entire race, you know what, I'm glad they were
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all the meal. Actually, I don't even want the others to be reintegrated
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to send that. When do you want to complete his last work and go
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all right, that's what I mean, who would have been better if the
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moon was from the battle push pushed the moon into an orbit, into a
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degrading orbit over a thousand years, and then it Yeah, today it happens
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to be the day. Yeah, it's going to collapse. What kind of
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what kind of human being is going to devote their entire life to saving their
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race and ideology? Right? Yeah, only because their their wife and child
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were doing it. But it's like, well, how old is the child
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if he's doing it his entire life? Yeah, you know what I mean,
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he would have been doing it. He would have been creating this since
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before his child was born. Yeah, it just nothing made sense to me.
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I didn't. Maybe it needed some flashbacks to, like like Lifeboat,
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the way it gave us some flashbacks to the evacuation and we saw who these
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people were before they were in Daniel's mind. Yes, maybe it would have
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made me feel a little more empathetic, empathetic to these people's cause. But
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based on these people, I'm like them all. I'm glad they're all dead.
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The guy, the guy, if he just had of done his job,
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finished his job, this, I guess it wouldn't even be an episode.
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Yeah, maybe if you'd worked a little faster, the second shuttle would
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have got here before the race. I don't know about you, Mitch,
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but I wouldn't just be like, oh, they're coming sick. I'll just
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been here seeing a thousand years. No way. I mean I know that
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it wasn't They didn't know it was going to be a thousand years, but
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yeah, far out man. Funny that you you're saying if that had happened,
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it wouldn't be an episode, but like kind of like last week with
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guys, and I'm like, oh, that felt like an episode. That
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felt like an adventure that happens between the ones that we otherwise so we didn't
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so we don't need to see but we can hear about afterga oh, that
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sounds like an interesting although not necessary to watch, you know, adventure of
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the week, whereas this one would be better of like outside of network.
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It could be a streaming episode where they discover this thing, they accidentally bring
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someone out of stasis, and the like, ah, what happened? Are
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this? I guess we can fire up now the raighth around Well they kind
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of are, but not like you know, anywhere near. Okay, we'll
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just bring it and it's over in like eleven minutes, like it's a streaming
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episode that shows Oh no, not always something goes wrong. Sometimes we accidentally
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do something and then we help someone do something that they would have done eventually,
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and yeah, jobs over you guys. We'll see you next week.
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You know, we don't have to go for forty four minutes. This just
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happens to be eleven because yeah, otherwise, like I don't know, for
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me, like watching it along and I watched this again in like two halves,
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and as I'm resuming, I'm like, Okay, yeah, that's right,
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that's what's going on. And then only they sort of final moments while
24:59
yeah, but sort of cutting his way into the door where that guy sort
25:02
of it was almost like I took that turn where he sort of revealed,
25:04
you know, really what had gone on, and I'm like, oh shit,
25:07
hang on. I wish I would have watched this in one sitting now
25:10
and been able to, because I feel like this would have had more of
25:11
an impact and maybe made it a little bit better viewing, Like I'm not
25:18
hating it as much as mad he is, but at the same time,
25:19
okay, this is just you know it is. I didn't care as much
25:23
as maybe what they hoped I would watching it, But I was only into
25:26
that last sort of scene with that with that old bloke, and I'm like,
25:30
oh, I just yeah that that felt like it means something. But
25:33
by this stage I just don't. I just don't care. By now,
25:37
I would have just liked to have seen the payoff of the thousand people that
25:41
they say, Yeah, like hire a couple of extras, redress a couple
25:45
of freaking Ethosians or something like that, you know what I mean, Like,
25:48
it doesn't have to be a thousand, Yeah, but just like,
25:51
oh, let's they go down. They've already been there a few days or
25:55
whatever, and yeah, building shit, maybe spend less money on the on
25:59
the CG crash. What the hell is if he could survive that, yeah
26:03
right, spend some less money on that and hire a couple of dozen extras
26:08
to walk in and be like, oh, thanks for saving us. Yeah
26:11
something. It was completely unscathed, John, Yeah, it wasn't bleeding,
26:18
not a gelled hair out of place. We've witnessed the car crash once.
26:22
This girl split her whole knee and her head went through the windshield. Yeah,
26:26
it's like something. Yeah, she was traveling at thirty kometers an hour.
26:30
This guy's flying into the atmosphere. Not to mention that the moon asteroid
26:37
thing, but even a crack in the body DOMI something. Yeah, all
26:40
the ship like the fact that the asteroid moon thing whatever exploded and the ship's
26:48
just perfectly in the middle, didn't get hit with one rock one period and
26:52
on the perfect angle where it just sort of hit and just slid. Yeah,
26:55
there's no like toppling over. And he couldn't like he never could really
27:00
least from the moon either, right from the Yeah, he basically had to
27:03
ride the moon in. That was the point. Should have been spinning out
27:06
of control. Yeah, he would have been ballistic. Yeah, he had
27:08
no engines, Like the ship's engines weren't working. He had no wings,
27:11
he had no Yeah, he was just holding a joystick like it wasn't plugged
27:18
in. Yeah. Yeah, you should have just put Taylor in it and
27:22
gone, Yeah, see what happens, you know what I mean, Like
27:27
she doesn't she won't know. Yeah, or he did die, but he'd
27:33
somehow been by being around those guys and playing around the computers and stuff.
27:37
He had a copy of himself put into them. Things like he's walking around
27:41
is like a secondary copy of his own human self. Or maybe we lost
27:47
contact with John. Well, I mean that's that's Travelers, that's Travelers and
27:51
Dollhouse. Well, you know see it either of us or if we lost
27:56
contact with John because he's flying through the atmosphere right and we don't know what
28:00
happened. And then after the crash we find the black box being the Raith
28:03
thing. Press the button, everyone comes out with John and John and Taylor
28:07
there, so he actually put himself in the box. Oh see yeah instead
28:14
of writing Yeah, it's like flying flying into a planet. Sit down,
28:22
yeah, a planet and land of it. Shut anyone who's good with editing,
28:27
either you, Tobe, anyone listening. What I would love to see
28:30
is just yeah, is just a meme of that shot of like the ship
28:33
exploding out of the asteroid slash moon and like this isn't flying, it's falling
28:38
with style. And also if a moon came into the wouldn't it burn the
28:44
atmosphere or like cause it because they reckon. There's comets that fly by and
28:48
flattened forests without with with just skimming off off back into space. Yeah,
28:55
and they just flattened forests. Yeah, I think. I mean that planet,
28:59
that planet was at a continent. Yeah, for sure. I mean
29:00
that planet was uninhabitable anyway, because they said because the radiation or some ship
29:04
like that wasn't there. Because I think it was like a thousand he goes,
29:07
all there is is plants and animal life. Oh, I thought they
29:11
settled them on a different planet, sorry, Cacob. I thought, I
29:12
mean they could have. I thought they settled on a different planet. And
29:15
because this planet was just uninhabitable, Well it probably is now that the moon,
29:21
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, It's the episode of the Simpsons and the
29:26
whole moon just comes down to the size of the chow his head. Oh
29:29
that's true. Unless the whole thing was hollow, like it just said.
29:32
Yeah, vibe was the whole of shield vibe where like the Earth had been
29:37
like you know, it was like a third of its former self. Yeah.
29:41
Yeah, that would have been what this planet was. Yeah, it
29:44
was it a shell. He would have needed he would have needed something to
29:47
survive, even just some after burn or anything. Just yeah, and not
29:49
just falling. Yeah, that's all he did. He held onto he he
29:56
was he was flying a flight simulator. While the flight simulator was plummeting to
30:02
Earth. You know what I mean he had he had. Yeah, He's
30:08
sitting in the bedroom on a flight simulator while the bedroom is plummeting to Earth
30:14
through orbit, pretending, pretending like he has flaps and and and stabilizers and
30:21
rocket but he's wearing heat shield yeah on his body. Yeah, I mean
30:26
yeah, I mean I can put it on my Jedi. I can put
30:30
on my Jedi costume and sit in my spare room and play computer games.
30:33
But I know I'm not a real Jedi. That's what he was doing.
30:37
He was cosplaying. He was cosplaying in a flight simulator. You know what
30:42
you said to cut it up with Buzzler with star, I now want to
30:47
cut this is more for Brendan Maddie. You would have seen it, but
30:49
try to forget it because it's a interstellar. But that moment where they have
30:52
to forget it, they have forgotten. They have to dock. I think
30:56
after that, I know I love docking. After they leave the matt damon
30:59
planet and the station is like spinning around in orbit and they have to try
31:03
and mimic's and I want to say and Hathaways like, you can't do that.
31:07
It's impossible. Mcconnie's like, no, it's necessary. Hans Zima like
31:12
the it's so great with that score of articu, it's sod tenn race,
31:23
it's so good, and I want to say it with Ray like you could.
31:26
There'd probably be a shot of Shepherd in the ship where it's so phrenetic
31:29
that you wouldn't actually be able to see his mouth, so you could,
31:30
like match would not have to match the dialogue with the with the visuals and
31:37
have him it's necessary and then having just crash into this. The inter selling
31:41
meme that I would do would be the shot of math if you're a head
31:45
crying and be Maddie watching this episode. Right the end of that, he
31:49
said that the docking clamps wouldn't explode or something. Yeah, why wouldn't they
31:55
just shoot it with the drone? Well, because they didn't have the the
32:00
jumper anymore. Yeah, Oh you're right, Yeah, I mean yeah,
32:05
I mean if it can survive the explosion of the re entry through the moon,
32:10
Yeah, surely then it could have survived that. No, you're right,
32:13
there's yeah, there's so many things wrong with this episode. There's so
32:15
many other ways they could have done it. Why what in the jumper just
32:19
nudget Like what in the jumper? Yeah, come in and just push it
32:22
or whatn't. Yeah, there's so many things wouldn't have been cooler if maybe
32:25
if the jumper, like after the casing of the moon had exploded, the
32:34
jumper went like full Superman and came in underneath underneath the shuttle and like braced
32:40
it. Yeah you know. Yeah, and it's like Shepherd and Lorn had
32:45
to work in it because Shepherd might have had maybe he had flaps but didn't
32:49
have boosters or whatever. She said. Yeah, right, if you need
32:53
flaps, you don't need a boost if you've got If you've got flaps,
32:57
you don't need to boast. But yeah, maybe if the if the jumper
33:00
had come in underneath and just like bolstered up the shuttle and helped level it
33:04
out or something like that, that would have been cool. But yeah,
33:06
there's a million maybe, like Lorn, we're in trouble, can you bring
33:09
also a bring a power supply so we can charge this bring generator with you.
33:15
Yeah, theykay can hook this thing up because Taylor's in it. Yeah,
33:17
this thing that turns out has an internal power source. It is fine.
33:22
Yeah, it just needs a double a battery. There are those devices,
33:25
you know, like pretty compact things that can start your car. Right
33:30
if you haven't got the jumper, is you just like like it's essentially carrying
33:32
around like a charger for your phone. Like yeah, thing, you know,
33:36
like how have we not? Yeah, like I know we've said this
33:37
a thousand times, but yeah, have we not just compacted it like we
33:40
said last week with the DHD. Just something that can do at once far
33:44
up a game. A whole neck with a generator is like this big the
33:49
size of a foot long subway. Like and make that to someone like tilk
33:52
or Ronan's job going, Hey, you're the big buff alien. Your job
33:54
is to hold that cause you have to carry your backpack. Take one pack
33:58
of grapes out of your back and put in this. Just have it on
34:01
the mountain and have one in a puddle. Jumper. Good to do?
34:07
Yep, crazy, No wonder they got canceled like that? This three episode
34:15
runners average. Yeah, yeah, it's not been a great time run lately.
34:19
Let's see what we're up to. Oh, Italian's next, Okay,
34:27
is that that's the next x G one episode? It's Italian no memory of
34:32
that's that's a tier to force that episode. Okay, I want to say,
34:36
I'll say no, I don't. I don't know this for sure,
34:38
but I want to based on my recent run that I have no memory of
34:43
any of the four remaining SG one episodes except for one ending. Yeah,
34:47
Italian family ties? Is that the like Valor and Dad one? Just based
34:52
on the name. Yeah, I don't remember it, but I just need
34:55
dominion. No, nothing based on those times. Okay, I think you
35:00
guys like Italian. The next Atlantis episode is Sunday, which I don't want
35:05
to give too much away, but that's a big one. That's a good
35:07
one. Okay. I missed Miss Billy Iris last week. I will do
35:12
my utmost best to have you two ready excellent. I mean no, I'm
35:19
not going to say it, okay. Story by Scott Nimmer FROs Ken Cooperris.
35:27
I think we've had Cooper. It's super with the C. It's Cooper
35:32
and Cooper and Coopers c U pr E r U S. I would say
35:37
that's Cooper's c U p e r U s Ken caperras Ken Capers, other
35:45
writers. They're pseudonyms. It's actually it's actually Guiro and Cooper, Scott Nimfroh,
35:52
Martin Guiro Rhyme's and then Ken Coopers Robert Cooper laugh they having a yeah,
36:00
but yeah, I've seen Ken Cooper's name before. But I think Scott
36:02
an infor Maniac is a first and last kind of situation. Hm hmm,
36:10
fair enough. Yeah, I just I just wanted that payoff, to see
36:15
the people in their new homeland, whether it be that pliment or not.
36:17
Yeah, and the whole episode is about saving them, and then we don't
36:21
actually get that. It's like I've been edged two entire episodes two people,
36:23
which not averse to, but two people that came out died, so that
36:30
like the two people that died, we could have been a lot darker.
36:34
We do see people, and then it turns out that guy's wife and child
36:39
were there, and then you just like some Hamlet ship and this he's like
36:45
Juliet, where is daddy? And then he destroyed up Buddle Jumpers. Culturally,
36:52
they just all commit suicide when bad things happen. So the whole like
36:55
they they finally say, these people they all really materialize and they'll go,
37:00
oh no, our planet's gone. Our culture dictates we all have to keep
37:04
it suicide to pass around the car. Guys, Yeah, you have to
37:07
kill someone else. What are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, take everyone's
37:09
with you. So one person that's commit suicide and everyone else out with them.
37:14
Outrageous wild Yeah, mild planet, but hey, it's the culture.
37:17
We can't tell them they're wrong. Great people. Well, what would have
37:22
been more hectic is if when Shepherd was almost landing and then the thing went
37:29
off and a thousand people filled up inside the ship like a clown car,
37:35
yeah, or or it kind of, and then the bulk door came open.
37:38
They were just came flying out. There's like a wide shot of like
37:42
a thousand people flying out of this. I think I watched it recently.
37:45
It's my kids inside out where they make the you know the kid that's like
37:47
has a crush on the main character. I would die for Riley. It's
37:50
just like multiple men just like on top of themself. There's at least a
37:52
thousand people just falling out. That would have been hilarious. Like as soon
37:55
as there's enough room for them to be made, they're just shooting out.
37:59
They actually cushion the ship. That's why he didn't Yeah, right, because
38:02
we landed on one thousand people. They saved me, So in a way,
38:10
this is come full circle. Okay, Unfortunately I'm going to have to
38:16
retract any of my negative statements about Scott an Infro. Turns out he wrote
38:22
one of my favorite episodes of Star Trek Voyager, and he was an associate
38:25
producer on two thousands X Men. So he's a great guy. He's fantastic.
38:30
I'm sure he had very little to do with his episode. Is he
38:34
an info? That's what Annie was supervised producer on that great Sarah Michelle Geller
38:42
show Ringer where she played her own twin loose ringer, loose fingeringer. Yeah,
38:47
I'm gonna blame Ken. It was all Ken's fault, Ken Kinniff.
38:52
And speaking of two thousands X Men, we're on a couple of days away
38:54
guys from Dead Paul Wolverine coming outs, we might see a lot of reference
39:00
is to Nyformani x work. Yeah, in a couple of days, we
39:05
we just we don't know. Nimp you know, the big nip that's where
39:12
his friends going? What? How how else could that have done? All
39:15
Right, fill up the mailbag with ways these people could have died. Get
39:22
into Cooper. There's no point using our fuel to the endurance to spin.
39:31
What do you do, dockey? The endurance rotination is sixty seven sixty eight
39:39
rpm. Hey, get ready to match our spin with the red jar thrusters.
39:44
It's not possible, No, it's necessary. Ten odds Race