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Final day of camp in Jax takeaways | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, August 18 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullivan Sull with
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Speaker 1: John o'shan and Brian Sexton. Jacks Drive Time and starts
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Speaker 1: I had a whole world l L. Why receiver la
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Speaker 1: Kwan tru Will miked up last week, A big week
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Speaker 1: coming up for him as we get ready for the
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Speaker 1: third Tree Sason game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. On a Thursday, coming off the practice field,
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Speaker 1: the last day of training camp here in Jacksonville, Ashland
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Speaker 1: Sullivan and Brian Sexton here with you. It has been
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Speaker 1: a time at the School School of Jacksonville. We are
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Speaker 1: ready to move on. I think, yes, yes, they were lovely. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but we were out there three weeks. Yes, and I
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Speaker 1: said goodbye. You know, it never fails. This was my
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth training camp and I always I'm excited for
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Speaker 1: it to start and excited for Dan. Yeah. I mean
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Speaker 1: all those days out there, you're you're looking at the
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Speaker 1: same guys doing the same drills over and over and
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Speaker 1: over and trying to interpret so we can share. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think this guy is really playing well. And then
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Speaker 1: you talk to a coach like, yeah, that's not so
1:30
Speaker 1: well looking who we hadn't matched up with looking we
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Speaker 1: had him next to what we're really looking is this
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Speaker 1: and this. You're like, well, okay, um, so you want
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Speaker 1: to get into game situations because when you have the
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Speaker 1: game tape, it doesn't lie. It doesn't lie. Especially with
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Speaker 1: joint practice as well. Coming up next week with the
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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, that's definitely going to change things up and
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Speaker 1: help us get some observations of you're not going to
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Speaker 1: gainst your same guy every single absolutely, and to start
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Speaker 1: to see some of their you know, they've got some
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Speaker 1: talented guys on the offensive side of the ball, so
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Speaker 1: be able to see how this defense matches up. That'll
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Speaker 1: be fun. Absolutely, all right, let's get into big things.
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Speaker 1: Big thing one is a furnace. It has been incredibly
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Speaker 1: hot in Jacksonville and is only going to get hotter
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta next week as the Jaguars will practice the
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Speaker 1: Falcons at one o'clock in the afternoon for joint practice.
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Speaker 1: This when we see battles one and guys separate themselves
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Speaker 1: of the dog days of training camp. Offensive coining your
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Speaker 1: pres Taylor has a lot of thoughts on that right
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Speaker 1: tackle battle. Great position to be in because both those
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Speaker 1: guys have played so well, they continue to push each other.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, for the for the foreseeable future, we'll
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Speaker 1: just continue to rotate those guys and and see, uh,
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Speaker 1: right now, they're pushing each other and making each other better.
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Speaker 1: So it's a good problem to have, um, And we'll
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Speaker 1: just continue that process until we need to make a
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Speaker 1: decision on that big thing. To Trevor talks. Trevor spoke
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Speaker 1: to the media yesterday and often struggling greatly yesterday, probably
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Speaker 1: the worst day that we've seen from this offense yesterday,
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Speaker 1: but they bounced back today. A lot of completions to
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Speaker 1: is A Jones especially, and Trevor Lawrence knows those slow
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Speaker 1: days are bound to happen. Have to go again, another
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Speaker 1: long practice, a lot of competing. Um. I thought offensively,
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Speaker 1: we came out a little slow, found our spots here
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Speaker 1: and there, but it's got to be a little bit
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Speaker 1: more consistent. Of the defense really is good. After today,
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Speaker 1: they're flying around. They did a good job, so overall,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a good day of competing. I think
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Speaker 1: we've gotta be a little sharp run offense. But um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was good to see the guys finished, because was
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Speaker 1: a long one to day and big thing three is
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Speaker 1: the last day, like we said, the last day of
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Speaker 1: training camp at this Episcopal School of Jackson as we
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Speaker 1: get ready to go to Atlanta next week. And it's
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Speaker 1: very obvious the atmosphere in this building during this training
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Speaker 1: camp has been very different. Assistant general manager Ethan Wall
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Speaker 1: agreece it's a very similar feeling. So when I when
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Speaker 1: I got here in May and just kind of walking around,
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Speaker 1: didn't even know, you know, where the office was, where
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Speaker 1: the draft room was, any of those things. But you
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Speaker 1: kind of bump into players in the hallway, you bump
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Speaker 1: into coaches. You have that feeling um and so that's
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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen very often in football. I think you
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Speaker 1: kind of you when you feel it, you know it,
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Speaker 1: and that's that's what I felt, and you think there's
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Speaker 1: a really good atmosphere in the building. Ethan while talking
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Speaker 1: about very similar to his time in San Francisco, and
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Speaker 1: you fee feel a rebuild coming on and moving in
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Speaker 1: the right direction, he said, it's pretty rare for you
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Speaker 1: to be able to feel that. Obviously, he said he
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Speaker 1: kind of noticed that as soon as he stepped in
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Speaker 1: this building. The word is professional, right and and and
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Speaker 1: that's not a slide at the former coach though I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, I take as many shots as I could. Um.
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Speaker 1: When I say professional, what I'm talking about is guys
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Speaker 1: come to work and they handle their own business right
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Speaker 1: there on time. They take good notes there on the
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Speaker 1: practice field early and staying late. They're asking good questions.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're taking care of their bodies with the trainer.
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Speaker 1: As a coach or a general manager scouting tap, you
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Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Guys are coming and getting work done.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's how I would describe this whole camp.
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Speaker 1: It was very workmanlike. Uh, they were professional. They came
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Speaker 1: in with that approach. There wasn't anything that made you think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is not a this is an immature team. It's not.
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Speaker 1: It's young. It's youthful. And Doug has said that over
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Speaker 1: and over how young this team is. But they're young professionals.
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Speaker 1: And I thought the way that Doug and Trent and
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Speaker 1: their staffs worked with the players this year, UM that
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Speaker 1: this training camp got a lot done. Absolutely, And even
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Speaker 1: when you see across Twitter, especially see at this point
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Speaker 1: in camp, when we see it everywhere, the chippiness, the fighting,
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Speaker 1: It just happens when you spend this much time together.
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Speaker 1: And I will see. While there were some little scuffles
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Speaker 1: here and there, it was Cook Peterson saying like, all right,
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Speaker 1: let's get that out of the way and let's go back.
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Speaker 1: It's not a nice game. And I mean, I mean
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Speaker 1: in the heat and you're competing for a job and
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Speaker 1: you're competing against somebody. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna get
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Speaker 1: the best of you from time to time. Um, But
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Speaker 1: I always go back to the big fight we had
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Speaker 1: here between Mill Williams and John Henderson in the summer
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Speaker 1: of two thousand and nine. It was nothing like that, right,
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Speaker 1: that never got out of control, right, and you know
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Speaker 1: they're going to happen. But I love how coach Peterson understood, Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is gonna happen, and all right, let's move on there. There.
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Speaker 1: You could see in Trevor Um as he walked over
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Speaker 1: after practice yesterday. Then yesterday was was the dog felt yesterday? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: You could see his body language was different than it
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Speaker 1: normally is. Uh. You could sense frustration, you could sense
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Speaker 1: some exhaustion because he was brutally hot. Um, And I
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Speaker 1: thought he was very candid with what he wants this
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Speaker 1: offense to be. Um, and he needed to be able
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Speaker 1: to step up and to say that and set the tone. Now,
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Speaker 1: you know, can they pull their way through it in
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Speaker 1: a day? Um? You know they weren't full pads today.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't the same kind of practice. It didn't go
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Speaker 1: as long. Very different. So yeah, they looked a little
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Speaker 1: bit better. Um, but it's Saturday night that matters. Right.
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Speaker 1: You hope to see a little bit more energy, and
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Speaker 1: you should Pittsburgh Steelers coming in. Whenever the Steelers come,
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Speaker 1: you know, you better bring your a physical game because
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Speaker 1: that's what they pride themselves on. He's being the more
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Speaker 1: physical team every down, right, And Coach Peterson gave us
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Speaker 1: some insight today in his press conference that the starters
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Speaker 1: will most likely go into the second quarter a couple series.
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Speaker 1: It's the second quarters are going to play a good amount.
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Speaker 1: And he especially said that offense, he wants to see
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Speaker 1: them score early and all the mistakes we saw last
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Speaker 1: week fix them and then you can get on the bench. Well,
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Speaker 1: what you hope is that the Steelers play most of
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Speaker 1: their starters. But it's only their second preseason games, so
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Speaker 1: they may be a little, you know, more hesitant. They
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Speaker 1: may want to play guys in all three games to
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Speaker 1: get the maximum time on the field. You don't know
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Speaker 1: what Mike Tomlin's gonna do. I do want to go
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Speaker 1: back up at the top. And you talked about the
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Speaker 1: furnace right, um, and that battle at right tackle has
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Speaker 1: been the battle. And the word on the field at
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Speaker 1: camp is that Juwan Taylor played much better then they
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Speaker 1: may have. They even expected him to play, getting his
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Speaker 1: first real action last week, and that that battle is
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Speaker 1: neck and neck. Not to me. I have seen Walker
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Speaker 1: Little play really well, although not so much the last
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Speaker 1: day or two. Um, Joann Taylor is really coming on
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Speaker 1: to hell of a battle going on it. So what
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Speaker 1: you've got is depth, because one of those guys is
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Speaker 1: gonna be your starter and the other is gonna be
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Speaker 1: the swing tackle. A great problem to have. So when
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Speaker 1: people worry about death, and there are some places on
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Speaker 1: this roster where it's thin, it's not gonna be on
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Now you're gonna have guys that can
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Speaker 1: play multiple positions and slide around, and you're going to
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Speaker 1: have death. And even with that guard spot as well.
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Speaker 1: If Ben Barts wins it, and Tyler Shatley's your backup
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Speaker 1: that's a great place well, and he's also your backup center, right,
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Speaker 1: so you've got you've got options. You'd like to find
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Speaker 1: another guard, you know, have another guy you can count
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Speaker 1: on um And there are a couple of young prospects
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Speaker 1: that they like, developmental guys that you can bring along.
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Speaker 1: I think Nick Ford right there, you see him on
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Speaker 1: the screen. He's one of those guys that that they
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Speaker 1: have high hopes will play at utak Um. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: what you think you know when you're watching preseason practice
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Speaker 1: and preseason games isn't always what you know because when
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Speaker 1: the coaches then explain what they were doing and how
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Speaker 1: they were pairing guys and what sort of scenarios in
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Speaker 1: the second quarter against the second team, you know, I
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Speaker 1: mean they look at all of those they're looking at
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Speaker 1: very specific guys in very specific situations as opposed to
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Speaker 1: a full game plan in a regular season game. It's
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Speaker 1: it's different than that, right, And I thought with this
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Speaker 1: battle especially, I thought, by the third preseason game, come
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Speaker 1: this Saturday, okay, you know your guy, you'd have a feeling.
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Speaker 1: But I love when offensive cordnear press Taylor. You heard
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Speaker 1: from in the beginning of the show said, we're not
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Speaker 1: any rush because they don't have to be. Either guy
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Speaker 1: is the right option. It's just who can pull away
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Speaker 1: and they don't have to be in a rush. Well
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Speaker 1: and for what for what we do to have a
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Speaker 1: strong opinion, and right, I think Walker Little is the guy,
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Speaker 1: or I think that you want Taylor's the guy. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's that's what people who watch this want to know.
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Speaker 1: But the coaches think completely different than that, because they
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Speaker 1: just want to see who rises to the occasion. And
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Speaker 1: with two guys like that, what's the old adage iron
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Speaker 1: sharp AND's iron uh, it gives them a chance to
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Speaker 1: have a better football player as the number two. It
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Speaker 1: is going to be interesting and we'll find out more
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Speaker 1: of the Saturday about who's running out with first team.
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Speaker 1: But even then I wouldn't let it go too far
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Speaker 1: in your evaluation because tricking me well, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: may think John Taylor plays outstanding there Walker a Little.
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Speaker 1: They go out and and play the game of his
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Speaker 1: life in his reps against UM against the Steelers, and
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Speaker 1: then you just don't know. They got time tuning. That's
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Speaker 1: to say the least. Sorry, that is big things when
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Speaker 1: coming off the training camp field and getting ready for
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Speaker 1: a preseason game in Jacksonville on Saturday. We're going to
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Speaker 1: see a lot of the starters play. We're gonna see
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Speaker 1: these two guys play. He will, he won't, he might.
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Speaker 1: Bryan pret got go with quarterback Tyson Campbell, who has
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Speaker 1: had a terrific camp. So I'm gonna say he's going
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Speaker 1: to be a top performer in training camp, top performer
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Speaker 1: in two. I want to say he's going to be
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Speaker 1: a star because he's he's flashing star potential right. He's explosive, Uh,
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Speaker 1: he is highly competitive, highly competitive. He's got all the
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Speaker 1: physical measurables you could possibly want. He's not as big
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Speaker 1: as Jalen Ramsey or as long as Jalen Ramsey's pretty close, right,
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Speaker 1: and he's a guy that he's so quiet, you wonder
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Speaker 1: if he's got that particular level in him. Yeah, he does,
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Speaker 1: and we've seen him. So I'll go with top performer
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Speaker 1: and a guy who makes plays all over the field
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Speaker 1: and people talk about, and then we'll see if he
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Speaker 1: evolves to that that elite echelon uh in his third
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Speaker 1: or fourth season. Top performer this year, he won't look
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Speaker 1: lost with the ball in the air. You remember last
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Speaker 1: year early on he just seemed like he was getting
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Speaker 1: by on his his athleticism and didn't have the instincts.
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Speaker 1: Now you can see the work in the weight room,
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Speaker 1: on the field, in the classroom with the coaches is
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Speaker 1: paid off. He is as comfortable in his position as
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Speaker 1: I think the quarterback is in his right so he
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Speaker 1: will not look lost with the ball in the air.
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Speaker 1: And finally, he might be a guy whose name is
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Speaker 1: mentioned with Jalen Ramsey, A J. Boyer and Rasheine mathis
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Speaker 1: as the best three corners to ever play here in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: I get it right, and he's only played one season,
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Speaker 1: but you can see the physical attributes, you can see
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Speaker 1: the mental focus on the game and you can see
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Speaker 1: where he's a guy who's got everything it takes and
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Speaker 1: the desire. That's what's so important. He's got the desire
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Speaker 1: to be great, and so I think, I think when
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Speaker 1: you look at the best corners by the end of
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Speaker 1: the season, he might have his name right there with
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Speaker 1: the best, maybe not past him, right maybe on their level.
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Speaker 1: Because Jalen Ramsey's the best corner in the game today.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask. People forget how good Rashie
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Speaker 1: Mathis was, and I look at this kid and I think, Okay,
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Speaker 1: maybe you can be that good too. I know, I
12:21
Speaker 1: don't even think it's that far from a maybe. Our
12:23
Speaker 1: coworkers make fun of me because I do a training
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Speaker 1: camp report every single day as we come off the
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Speaker 1: field and we have a play of the day, and
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Speaker 1: I swear I think Tyson Campbell has been of my
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Speaker 1: plays of the day. But I can't help it because
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Speaker 1: that's how good he looks on the field. I gotta
12:36
Speaker 1: give it to him. It's incredible when you hear defensive
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Speaker 1: courter might call, well say, he has the potential to
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Speaker 1: float the number one receiver of every team, right. Could
12:44
Speaker 1: you imagine have said that last October. You know you
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Speaker 1: wouldn't because even when Jalen Ramsey was here, they didn't
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Speaker 1: do that with Jalen in the early days, right because
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Speaker 1: they had boy a right Um. Jalen wanted to do that,
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Speaker 1: He wanted desperately to do that, and they did always
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Speaker 1: do it. And this is a guy who I don't
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Speaker 1: know that he cares whether he does that or not.
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Speaker 1: He just wants to go out and play. Machine holds
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Speaker 1: the team record for takeaways, right interceptions, and he did
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Speaker 1: it in big moments, mostly against the Steelers. Bed Roethlisberger
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Speaker 1: hated Rashi Um. That's what I want to see from
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Speaker 1: this kid this year. When there's an opportunity for you
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Speaker 1: to either blow the game open or get back into
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Speaker 1: the game, Rahin always made a play. That's what we
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Speaker 1: want to see from Tyson. Can he be that guy
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Speaker 1: when the heat is on? He is so easy the
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Speaker 1: root for when you see him working, and he's so
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Speaker 1: easily could have put his head in the sand and
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Speaker 1: given up when everyone was against him last year and
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Speaker 1: he did the complete opposite. Nice guys win, and he's
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Speaker 1: a nice He's a great example of all. Right. I
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Speaker 1: have Laviskasenalt Jr. As mydeo, hearance he might. For Saturday's game,
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Speaker 1: he will play a good bit, especially in the second half,
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Speaker 1: and we know the first team receivers will go out
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Speaker 1: into the second quarter. When they go off, that's Laviskas
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Speaker 1: time to shine. It is a battle right now with
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Speaker 1: the krawnch webbell for that this spot. If they keep
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Speaker 1: six receivers, I think, look, Lavis Kashnal is safe, but
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Speaker 1: this is a battle that is worth paying attention to him.
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Speaker 1: We will see a good bit of him on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: He won't have that big explosive play and I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of times last season we asked of him
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Speaker 1: to be that big explosive play guy. Truthfully, I don't
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Speaker 1: think that's what they want from him anymore. We haven't
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Speaker 1: really seen that in training camp, that explosion down the sidelines.
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Speaker 1: He's more of the guy that after the catch, guy
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Speaker 1: with blockers up the field. He's making an impact that way,
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Speaker 1: and I think maybe it was the role he wasn't
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Speaker 1: supposed to be in last year. I don't really know
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Speaker 1: what happened there last year, but I think now he's
14:34
Speaker 1: in the right spot to make an impact and he
14:37
Speaker 1: might be the prominent kickoff returner under Jamal Agnew. Of course,
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Speaker 1: when Jamal Agnew was the guy, he's the guy. But
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Speaker 1: Lavis Kashnal went to coach Peterson a couple of months
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Speaker 1: ago and said, I want to try kickoff return and
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Speaker 1: I give it to him. They're using him a ton
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Speaker 1: and training camp in that role. In credit to him
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Speaker 1: for saying I want to do more. It looks like
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Speaker 1: that's going to pay off. You know, we um we
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Speaker 1: knock his lack of speed. He does not have top
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Speaker 1: end speed is as most people. Yeah, but he's terrific athlete. Now,
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Speaker 1: I mean he's six ft one, he's two and twenty pounds,
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Speaker 1: and he's light on his feet, very athletic, you know,
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Speaker 1: runs jumps, does all that stuff. So I think that
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff has an idea, even though they're not
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Speaker 1: sharing it. And why would they. Why would you tell
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Speaker 1: anybody before the Washington game how you're going to use
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Speaker 1: this guy. But we've seen some things on the practice field,
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Speaker 1: just little glimpses of how they want to use him.
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Speaker 1: Now he's got to buy into it, right, He's got
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Speaker 1: to accept the fact that he's not that down the
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Speaker 1: field guy that he was at the university of Colorado,
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Speaker 1: Colorado right in the in the Pact twelve. If he
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Speaker 1: buys in it takes the role. Uh, those guys can
15:39
Speaker 1: become stars in their own right, and the guys that
15:41
Speaker 1: are featured on all the network highlight shows, because hey,
15:45
Speaker 1: look at what they did with him out of the
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Speaker 1: backfield throwing a touchdown pass. Oh, he's got that ability
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Speaker 1: to do that. Um, he's got to take that next
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Speaker 1: step and own the role. Right talking with someone today
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Speaker 1: about him. When he decides to own the role, he
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Speaker 1: could be really, really good at it. That makes so
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Speaker 1: much sense because if you look at someone like Marvin Jones,
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Speaker 1: you see how different they are. You see how they
16:05
Speaker 1: could never be the same type of receiver. In a
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Speaker 1: lot of times last year, that's what Levisco has asked
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Speaker 1: to do, is go opposite Marvin and go downfield, and
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Speaker 1: we didn't see success. So now, if he's in the
16:15
Speaker 1: right position, if you're the defensive coordinator, where are you
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Speaker 1: shading the safety to Marvin Jones whose speed was not
16:22
Speaker 1: threatening to a defense? I mean, you didn't have to
16:24
Speaker 1: worry about Levis go on the other side. But if
16:26
Speaker 1: you have to worry about him lining up in the
16:27
Speaker 1: slot in the backfield coming. You know, God knows where
16:30
Speaker 1: he's not Deebo Samuel, but the way the Niners use
16:33
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel in a number of different ways, and out
16:35
Speaker 1: of the backfield in particular, all of a sudden, you
16:37
Speaker 1: canna start game planning. Where's tent? What might he be?
16:39
Speaker 1: What does he do from the backfield? What does he
16:41
Speaker 1: do from this lot? Right? You gotta start thinking about
16:43
Speaker 1: it right where the line up now not a burner,
16:46
Speaker 1: but a good, good column. But in this case, yeah,
16:49
Speaker 1: because imagine that in Travis E. Ten and Jamal Agnew
16:52
Speaker 1: and Christian Kirk and where all these things can be
16:53
Speaker 1: one of those chess pieces that creates confusion absolutely, and
16:56
Speaker 1: that is he will he won't see mind when we
16:58
Speaker 1: come back some cover from today's training can't practice at
17:01
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Speaker 1: to jar Wards Drive time on a Thursday, coming off
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Speaker 1: the training camp field and allow to discuss with this practice.
17:30
Speaker 1: The last one in Jacksonville. We heard from head coach
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, as well as number one overall draft pick
17:35
Speaker 1: Trey Von Walker. And something we haven't gotten to yet
17:38
Speaker 1: in this show is the release of Malcolm Brown yesterday afternoon.
17:42
Speaker 1: That says a lot about j to Faile and head
17:44
Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson explains the release. You know, we've got
17:48
Speaker 1: some young sending players quite honestly that that that have
17:52
Speaker 1: really kind of caught our attention, cut our eye. There's
17:54
Speaker 1: there's some nice competition there with you know, with Izzy
17:57
Speaker 1: and j and some of the other you know, moves
18:00
Speaker 1: we can do, and so it's just a it's a
18:02
Speaker 1: tough decision. Obviously we've done this before, but um, you know,
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Speaker 1: Malcolm was was great for this team, great for the room,
18:09
Speaker 1: great leadership here for the for the time he was here,
18:13
Speaker 1: and wish him well and obviously now it's an opportunity
18:16
Speaker 1: that he can, you know, uh, potentially get picked up
18:18
Speaker 1: by another team. Now you have at the release of
18:21
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown yesterday. But of a surprise when it came through,
18:24
Speaker 1: just because we've seen Malcolm Brown's be so successful here
18:26
Speaker 1: in Jackson will be such a big piece on this
18:28
Speaker 1: defensive line. But I totally hear what coach Peterson is saying,
18:32
Speaker 1: look at j to Fley, look at these young guys
18:34
Speaker 1: coming up, and look at Malcolm Brown's cap hit as well. Right, well,
18:36
Speaker 1: when they were trading for for Malcolm Brown last year,
18:39
Speaker 1: they knew it would be short term and and of
18:41
Speaker 1: course they follow that up drafting j to Fele on Saturday,
18:45
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick. So he's a guy that started
18:49
Speaker 1: slow though. I mean, Ja did not have a great
18:51
Speaker 1: game in Canton against the Raiders, and so they needed
18:55
Speaker 1: to see more from him. But there's also the young
18:57
Speaker 1: man from Oklahoma State. He's really entwined that they that
19:00
Speaker 1: they like a lot, and and Doug Mention knew it's
19:02
Speaker 1: becoming a young man's game. It's always been a young
19:04
Speaker 1: man's game, right, It's always been younger and and and
19:07
Speaker 1: since the salary cap era. If you're younger and cheaper now,
19:11
Speaker 1: you don't pass up a guy, um if he's a
19:16
Speaker 1: much better player. But what they're saying is to Fele
19:18
Speaker 1: showing them what they need. They like the kid from
19:20
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Here he comes. Um. I'll always remember Malcolm
19:24
Speaker 1: Brown for the block that he laid to free Jamal
19:28
Speaker 1: Agnew on that that that I've never seen him big
19:31
Speaker 1: man moves. No. I mean, in my mind his block
19:35
Speaker 1: was the one that sealed it because he got the angle.
19:38
Speaker 1: I mean, you see him just all out pursuit. He's
19:42
Speaker 1: three pounds in his thirty yards up the field and
19:45
Speaker 1: he lays a block on a linebacker who might have
19:49
Speaker 1: been able to dive right, and he and Brown dope
19:51
Speaker 1: at the same time and cut him off. It was beautiful,
19:54
Speaker 1: the best big man block that I can recall. Uh
19:57
Speaker 1: In watching the Jaguars for twenty years, complete we forgot
20:00
Speaker 1: about that, but I remember watching that highlight and going,
20:02
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I've never seen it someone moved so
20:04
Speaker 1: quick in my life. Meanwhile, it's Malcolm Brown right right,
20:07
Speaker 1: And you know it's it's a bit of a surprise,
20:10
Speaker 1: right because I asked Josh Allen, hey, tell me somebody
20:13
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be forgetting about on the defensive line. There's
20:16
Speaker 1: all this talk about Trayvon and Josh right and and
20:18
Speaker 1: for good reason, we've talked about fully fought kasi Um
20:21
Speaker 1: and he immediately went. He goes Malcolm. He said, this
20:24
Speaker 1: was early in camp. He said, you know, Malcolm has
20:26
Speaker 1: had a good offseason. These big, strong guys, a guy
20:29
Speaker 1: we need, well, it tells you how far to fele
20:32
Speaker 1: and and the rookie of Maklahoma State have come. If
20:35
Speaker 1: they're they're comfortable letting Malcolm walk but especially in Doug
20:38
Speaker 1: Peterson's first year, right, this is a long term perspective
20:42
Speaker 1: from them. Do they want to win this year? Absolutely
20:44
Speaker 1: want to win this year, but are they making moves
20:47
Speaker 1: for next year in the year after for sure? Right,
20:49
Speaker 1: and wondering is it worth keeping this guy who's very
20:51
Speaker 1: expensive on our salary cap when there isn't that huge
20:54
Speaker 1: difference between the next two guys? That makes sense, all right?
20:57
Speaker 1: That prominent right tackle position that we have talked all
21:00
Speaker 1: about between Walker Little and Jawan Taylor. The head coach
21:03
Speaker 1: gave his comments on that today. It's an interesting battle. Um,
21:07
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think this game will be
21:09
Speaker 1: important for both both players, um, you know. And and
21:13
Speaker 1: I like how Jawn's responded coming off the injury and
21:17
Speaker 1: how he's how he played last week and how he's practiced.
21:19
Speaker 1: Walkers done done an outstanding job as well. So it's
21:22
Speaker 1: very interesting, you know for us, Um, we're kind of
21:26
Speaker 1: in a good spot with it because you can kind
21:29
Speaker 1: of go either way and and and the other guy
21:30
Speaker 1: can be the swing tackle or or whatever. So UM,
21:35
Speaker 1: I think this week will be important, and then even
21:36
Speaker 1: when we go to Atlanta and practice against Atlanta will
21:39
Speaker 1: be another another good opportunity for both of them. I
21:42
Speaker 1: thought that spoke volume was the very last part of
21:44
Speaker 1: that UM what coach Peterson was saying that it's not
21:46
Speaker 1: just Saturday, it's Atlanta as well, and we're still going
21:49
Speaker 1: to be evaluating this next week in a joint practice. Well, Atlanta,
21:51
Speaker 1: probably you're not going to see a whole lot of
21:56
Speaker 1: of T J. Watt, you know. I mean, there's I
21:58
Speaker 1: would play at all if I would Tomlin right, and
22:00
Speaker 1: you're talking about maybe the best pass rusher outside pass
22:03
Speaker 1: rusher in the game. But when you get into practice
22:05
Speaker 1: situations with these joint practices, now now you're you're maximizing.
22:10
Speaker 1: You're going to make sure that your number one pass
22:13
Speaker 1: rusher gets so many reps against the Jaguars. If you're
22:16
Speaker 1: the Falconst, okay, and if you know that's coming then
22:19
Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars, You're going, okay, I'm I've got four
22:21
Speaker 1: reps with this guy. I want two and two right,
22:23
Speaker 1: or I want to see more from June. So I've
22:25
Speaker 1: got three and one Um, these joint practices are in
22:30
Speaker 1: many respects, and I think Bill Belichick actually said that
22:33
Speaker 1: this week. I think in many respects they are more
22:35
Speaker 1: important than the preseason games because it's controlled. So from
22:41
Speaker 1: a safety perspective, it helps you get your guys healthy.
22:44
Speaker 1: But like this kid here Ford, right, you want to
22:47
Speaker 1: see him line up against the best defensive tackle that
22:50
Speaker 1: he can possibly line up, and if he screws up,
22:52
Speaker 1: let's do it again, love the whistle, do it again.
22:55
Speaker 1: You want to be able to put guys in specific
22:57
Speaker 1: situations for your evaluation and for their growth, and you
23:01
Speaker 1: just can't do that in the preseason game because you
23:03
Speaker 1: have no control over the right. Oh he's out, Okay, Well,
23:07
Speaker 1: well I get two reps, you know, evation right exactly,
23:10
Speaker 1: So they got to make the most of this time.
23:11
Speaker 1: Next week, someone who will be evaluated as well, but
23:14
Speaker 1: for much different reasons is Trayvon Walker, who's going to
23:17
Speaker 1: play a good bit on Saturday, and it is also
23:19
Speaker 1: going to go back to his hometown of Atlanta next week.
23:21
Speaker 1: He said, a lot of families coming to the game.
23:23
Speaker 1: I don't know how much, if any, we're going to
23:25
Speaker 1: see him against the Falcons, but in joint practice, we'll
23:27
Speaker 1: see him and we're gonna see him get all those
23:29
Speaker 1: reps at outside linebacker. Definitely, that was my main goal
23:35
Speaker 1: coming in at All they wanted me to do is
23:36
Speaker 1: just focus on this one position. Once I get everything
23:39
Speaker 1: down like the game, like the game of football already
23:41
Speaker 1: have that, so everything just comes along with knowing my
23:44
Speaker 1: one position. I love that the game of football I got. Now,
23:49
Speaker 1: I just have to be good at one thing. Um.
23:52
Speaker 1: You know, in the in the era of four preseason
23:54
Speaker 1: games Saturday night, the starters would go into the third quarter, right,
23:58
Speaker 1: they would go to have time and then come out
24:01
Speaker 1: of the halftime locker room. And that's a practice, right
24:03
Speaker 1: to be able to transition and the momentum and then
24:05
Speaker 1: pull him out. And Doug said today that he wanted
24:07
Speaker 1: to see his guys go into the second quarter. So
24:09
Speaker 1: he's telling you he wants to see just enough from them,
24:13
Speaker 1: just a little bit more, and he wants to see
24:15
Speaker 1: some more from the defense. He said that today as well. Uh,
24:18
Speaker 1: more time on the field with those guys together. And
24:21
Speaker 1: then if you see anybody in Atlanta, I would be stunned.
24:26
Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine why you have a chance
24:28
Speaker 1: to have them have a really good hard practice, so
24:30
Speaker 1: guys are going to be tired, to be sore, and
24:33
Speaker 1: then you have two full weeks to get ready for
24:37
Speaker 1: the trip to Washington and opening day. So I guess
24:40
Speaker 1: it's a roundabout way of saying Saturday night and next
24:43
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday in Atlanta, that's it for the starters.
24:47
Speaker 1: So the furnace, the heat is on for those two
24:49
Speaker 1: jobs at left guard and right tackle. It's now. The
24:52
Speaker 1: time is now, let's see who wins it. So true,
24:54
Speaker 1: and you think about James Robinson or Devin Lloyd to
24:57
Speaker 1: now they're saying, Okay, they're ruled out for Saturday won't
24:59
Speaker 1: makes total sense because now they have three weeks to
25:01
Speaker 1: get ready for week one. Why would you ever risk that. No,
25:04
Speaker 1: and Lloyd's a guy. I think they expect to get
25:06
Speaker 1: onto the practice field in an enlarged role next week
25:09
Speaker 1: and they want to see him. Um, I still don't
25:12
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see James Robinson for the start of
25:14
Speaker 1: the season. At the point where you have to wonder
25:17
Speaker 1: that m Coach Peterson said the expectation, and I like
25:19
Speaker 1: how he said this is the expectation. Well, they said
25:22
Speaker 1: it for him to be because he's told them I
25:24
Speaker 1: want to play, so they said, well, this is what
25:26
Speaker 1: you have to get. But I still think because he's
25:28
Speaker 1: such a productive playmaker. I mean you look at what
25:30
Speaker 1: what does he scored seventeen eighteen rushing touchdowns in twenty
25:33
Speaker 1: eight games. You can wait. They've got some guys. I
25:36
Speaker 1: talked to Bernie Parmley, the running backs coach today, if
25:39
Speaker 1: they have to wait on him. They're really comfortable with
25:41
Speaker 1: some of those guys that they've got behind him. And
25:43
Speaker 1: so you want to make sure that when you put
25:45
Speaker 1: him out there, he can protect himself and then he
25:48
Speaker 1: can be productive. He can get to the end zone,
25:50
Speaker 1: he can do those things. No reason to rush it.
25:52
Speaker 1: The chilles is a major injury, and at this point,
25:55
Speaker 1: what's two more weeks, right if you have to wait
25:58
Speaker 1: till October one to get him or even November one
26:01
Speaker 1: to get him back, not well as close to a
26:05
Speaker 1: percent as you get. You know, three years in the
26:06
Speaker 1: league with an achilles, and those guys will tell you
26:09
Speaker 1: you're never quite the same. Absolutely, And that is our
26:12
Speaker 1: top storylines from Thursday's training camp practice. When we come
26:14
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Speaker 1: Drive time for one more segment, getting ready for a
26:36
Speaker 1: third preseason game against the Steelers in Jacksonville Saturday night
26:40
Speaker 1: at seven o'clock. Brian Sexson will be on the preseason
26:42
Speaker 1: broadcast with Bucky Brooks and Brent Martineau. Looking forward to it.
26:46
Speaker 1: The production meetings coming up. I suppose those are tomorrow,
26:50
Speaker 1: so I know the coach will be there. I'm not
26:51
Speaker 1: sure exactly who the players are, and it's just a
26:54
Speaker 1: great opportunity to get their perspective. There's no cameras on.
26:57
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily on the record or off the record.
27:00
Speaker 1: It's just a little perspective on background, maybe some of
27:02
Speaker 1: the things we've seen and how they feel and stories,
27:05
Speaker 1: and that's what you get into the second half of
27:08
Speaker 1: a preseason game, right and you it's all storytelling. It's
27:12
Speaker 1: all storytelling. So we have to have our stories ready
27:15
Speaker 1: and just wait till next week in Atlanta. Ya. I
27:18
Speaker 1: love I mean, I love, I love the play by play.
27:21
Speaker 1: I enjoyed so much so I enjoy it. But I
27:23
Speaker 1: will I won't lie. You get into the like six
27:25
Speaker 1: minutes to go in the fourth quarter, it can be
27:28
Speaker 1: a grind. It's a grind to watch, I know. And
27:31
Speaker 1: it's not for those guys because those are everything to
27:34
Speaker 1: them because they don't know whether that's their last ever
27:37
Speaker 1: snap in an NFL game. Um, they don't know what
27:39
Speaker 1: opportunities are there. So you kind of have to focus
27:41
Speaker 1: on those stories. But it's yeah, we can complain, we're
27:44
Speaker 1: you know, reporters standing out on the practice. Oh it's
27:46
Speaker 1: so hot, and oh it can be boring, but you
27:49
Speaker 1: forget that the story of the storytelling is the important
27:53
Speaker 1: part and people want to hear it. Absolutely. I will
27:55
Speaker 1: hurt myself complaining. Actually yesterday with how hot it was
27:57
Speaker 1: on the practical and I have to stand out there
27:59
Speaker 1: for two and a half hour and I was sweating
28:00
Speaker 1: and just do not know to go around and find
28:03
Speaker 1: the shade. And then I looked behind me and I
28:04
Speaker 1: saw the dehydration tent, a couple of guys in there,
28:07
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I must stop complaining.
28:09
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, as I go and I grab it
28:11
Speaker 1: ice cold, gatorade. Nothing all right. That is Jaguars drive
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28:21
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