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- Samuel De Lorenzo: Hi everyone, my name's Sam and I used to work in the film industry for about twelve years and I wasn't ever really allowed to talk about movies. So I decided now that I don't work in the film industry that I would get two of my best mates who I don't see that much anymore and it would be great to sit down, chat and talk about silly movies. So I'd love to introduce you to, first of all, Corey. Corey: G'day guys. thanks for having me Thanks having me on. now excited, yeah, to chat with you guys and talk movies. Samuel De Lorenzo: And then we have Paco down here as well. Or well, I mean, I've always called you Paco, but how would you like to be called here? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, so ⁓ Daniel Paco, look, I've got my name written there as Daniel Paco on there. Look, I know these guys from high school. I just came here to talk shit and talk movies, so ⁓ here we ⁓ Easy. Samuel De Lorenzo: You have a license to talk shit, my friend. You can go nuts. Did you guys want to tell everyone about yourselves at all a little bit before? You know, I mean I worked in the cinema industry for twelve years, so that's that's probably all I know. I d used to get a lot of free movies. So that's pretty much where I sit. Tell us about yourselves a little bit before we jump in, hey? Daniel (Pacco): Well, if I'll jump in, look, my mate over here, Sam, he worked in movies. He used to give us free movie tickets. So I tagged along and watched movies with him. yeah, look, I prefer action movies. Honestly I like a little bit of Pixar as well on the side. That's a bit of a secret there. yeah, look give me a good movie. I'll watch it any day. Give me a crap movie. I'll still watch it. I'll give a a crappy review, but yeah, we'll see how we go with that. Samuel De Lorenzo: Mm-hmm. Corey: Yeah, and I just yeah, like watching movies for the fun of it, obviously. I do photography and videography work, like real estate weddings, so I guess I've got a bit of an eye for lighting and cinematography, so yeah, can sort of critique, you know, those aspects of the movies and and all that. ⁓ but nah, yeah, ⁓ like action movies, like any sort of movie, just not really gory horror. Samuel De Lorenzo: Well, I probably picked a bad movie for our first one then, but corre but when you say, Corey, that you ⁓ like movies, correct me if I'm wrong, was not there not a certain movie theme song part of your wedding pro s ⁓ procession walking down the aisle as your wife walked down the aisle? Yeah? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I was gonna say that's ⁓ good stuff. Corey: Yeah. Yes there was. The ⁓ I'd probably say yeah the best movie of all time. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah, I think that's ⁓ I'd say that's up there. Daniel (Pacco): Anymore. Corey: Steven Spielberg, nineteen ninety three, Jurassic Park, classic. Samuel De Lorenzo: Well, maybe we'll get to that movie at some point. That little that little dinosaur movie that popped up every so often. But ⁓ today we're gonna talk about an Yeah, could almost argue just as good a film, obviously. stumbled across this one. So this one was my pick. ⁓ for those who I guess, well, for everyone that's ⁓ the first time they're joining us, ⁓ we're gonna pick a movie at not at random, just any random movie, whether it's new, whether it's old, whether we've seen it, whether we haven't. I'm just gonna rewatch it and chat about it. Think like a book club, but for movies, you know. I know a really original idea here, but Honestly, it's just an excuse to chat to my friends here. So I stumbled across this movie. I was going through Amazon. Great place to watch movies. I always find it's really annoying 'cause don't like watching movies on Amazon just with you know, we don't pay for the ads or anything. That's ⁓ that's annoying. But I scrolled through this and it just had a funny hook to it. I really like Jason Siegel. I just seem to enjoy the stuff that he's in and it just looked fun. There was a bit of a hook on the the sitting there. I think Jason Siegel is tied to the chair and they're having a bit of a confrontation and I just it looked fun. So I was like, you know what? I said to my partner, let's let's just watch this and put it on. And I like to watch random movies on a whim and I thought we'll give this one a crack. And after I watched it, I thought, I just want to talk about this. This is a stupid movie, but it's a lot of fun. So I thought this would be a great one to start off with. I'll just a quick recap of the plot. So it's a dysfunctional married couple. They retreat to a secluded cabin And re to repair their relationship. Things aren't going well for them. And ⁓ they each kinda they're they're each kinda trying to Mr. and Mrs. Smith it really, but instead of being secret agents, they just want to kill each other. They've both planned to kill their partners. So really great, you know, and I'm sure we've all thought about, you know, having disagreements with our partners, but killing them is probably a bit of a step too far. But, you know, whatever that, you know, Bob's your uncle, they've tried and and that's how they got there. But luckily they're ⁓ sprung, I guess, and then Daniel (Pacco): Like ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: They find some things in the roof and we can talk about we'll talk spoilers obviously, but we'll try and keep it light at the start. Daniel (Pacco): You want me to jump in? I don't know. In my opinion. Samuel De Lorenzo: Sorry. Yes. Sorry. What did you guys think? So I told you guys to watch it. Did you watch the trailer first? Because I kind of feel like watching the trailer threw a bit too much and I and that first maybe hour of the film kinda the expectation I was I kinda knew what was gonna happen and then after that I really enjoyed the plot of it. But what did you guys think? Daniel (Pacco): You guys don't mind me jumping in. I thought it was like a team version of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. was just garbage in my opinion. But look, to answer your question, I don't watch trailers because a lot of trailers these days ⁓ spoil movie from a bit pretty much sums up the whole movie in three minutes. But yeah, look, ⁓ Samara weaving. ⁓ Yeah, I'd watch the movie again just for her. But I mean ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: Samara Weaving. Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): Don't tell the wife, but ⁓ look personally, I don't know, two out of ten in my opinion. ⁓ I just ⁓ it's how I say it, yeah. Get a divorce or kill your wife. It's like ⁓ take pick. Samuel De Lorenzo: sure we won't tell her. Two out of ten, yeah. That's It did seem a little extreme to go straight from, geez, we're in a little bit of debt and I don't really like you, so I'm just gonna fucking kill you. Did feel a little extreme, yeah. I've gotta ask, did you either of you watch this movie with your wives? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. But it was kind of interesting she had the same idea as well, so Yes. Samuel De Lorenzo: What did you have any points where you were watching it? And when the especially when they were arguing, I feel like in that that chair scene where they're sitting down where he's tied at the chair and they're talking about why they were gonna kill each other, did you have that sort of look at each other and a bit of a giggle of like, okay, we've definitely had this fight? Obviously not to try and kill each other, but did you guys have any of those moments? Daniel (Pacco): Sorry, Corey. ⁓ no, I this she just walked out. It's like this movie's crap. I'm sorry. I I just had to suck it up and pull myself through this torture. I think what did Sam get me into? Like if I'm gonna go through all this podcast, my god, what's the next movie gonna be? This ⁓ terrible. But enough of me. I wanna hear Corey's opinion. ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: it's really bel ⁓ ⁓ wow. Yeah. And Corey ha Yeah. Corey: yeah, no, we didn't have any ⁓ where, you know, we'd look at each other and be like, ⁓ shit, like, you know, that relates to us. but ⁓ But no, I came into the movie with no expectations, didn't watch the trailer, didn't even read the little info thing about it ⁓ when it pops up. So Samuel De Lorenzo: Okay, so you got a perfect marriage. Okay, cool, thanks. Daniel (Pacco): wonderful. Corey: The wife did and she was like, ⁓ look, this looks interesting. So but no, I I we started off ⁓ watched it in two segments. So we watched it half of it about two days ago. ⁓ then we finished it today. I we got about half an hour into it and Anita was like, nah, I don't want to watch this anymore. ⁓ And yeah. And then ⁓ today when we Samuel De Lorenzo: she's out Wow. Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Corey: Yeah, re rewatch well, finished watching it. ⁓ at the end she's like, ⁓ no, it was actually pretty good. So and I did surprisingly like the the surprises that came about. Every time, you know, it would come up two days two d two days ago or three hours before, like and then, you know, the story would sort of tell like a different story arc and all that. ⁓ it was yeah, changed your yeah Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Corey: Didn't know what to expect, so it was yeah, it was interesting in that way. Samuel De Lorenzo: It had a very like a there's that like I guess you would call it like a nonlinear jumping back and forth and in a weird way and I think it felt like every time it kept jumping back, I was sort of n nothing felt completely unobvious, I guess, that was sort of thinking of ⁓ no, that th you know, you can make that. It didn't feel completely Far fetched. And then the final one where I think it was pretty much towards the end of the film, you're like, okay. This is the this is the and the reveal of the end, I guess. And look we look we can probably talk spoilers. You can't really talk this film without spoiling it, I guess. But the I think that the first turn where it's revealed and it kinda tells the it kinda cause it kind of does that sitcom trope of telling the same story from different points of view a few different times, which I always really enjoy because it's that almost similar to Groundhog Day or or in that kind of way of just telling the same thing the same way. and I really thought that was always fun that you could just see it from a different side of things. And when the thing ⁓ the first one where they just fell through the roof and you're like, hang on, what? And it's just gonna kind of zips back. I love th I love that those moments. They al always love that they can really just retell the story in a different way. It was that Corey: Yeah, I love that part especially 'cause yeah, they fall through the roof and then you're like, What the fuck? Who are who are these people? And then you're just like, God, this movie's just getting crazier and crazier and but I I like that, how it just sort of kept yeah, unexpected things kept happening and you're like, Whoa God, what's happening next? Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I mean you're just like, where's this film going? That's where I was kinda going in the end. Like I I don't mind the film going up once or twice. But I'll come on, when the prisoners came in it was like, ⁓ where is this going? Come on. ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Yeah, it it did take sort of a left hand or hard a hard left turn of like, ⁓ hang on. Where where where did this come? There was feel like that was one thing I was slightly spoiled at by watching the trailer though. Not necessarily that they they were in the house, but I had seen that there was, I guess, other characters in the film. and I knew is it Timothy Timothy Oliphant, the the main guy, the let's be honest, pretty terrible boyfriend guy. that's the main villain of the sh of the movie. when he they popped up on the screen kind of earlier in the film, it like, ⁓ you know, three convicts escaped prison Like, ooh, okay, that's ⁓ I think that kind of clicked to me. It's like, okay, something's gonna happen there because I have seen them in this, you know, I'd seen them in the trailer. So I guess that's probably where this film I mean, well, I really enjoyed it, but you guys didn't seem to not enjoy it as much. But I guess it's ⁓ yeah, for me it had that ⁓ what am I saying? It it the expectation was a bit of a surprise for you guys. Was it sort of like was maybe it felt like a bit too hard of a what the hell's going on because the expectation wasn't there? Daniel (Pacco): sorry, Corey. ⁓ my bad. Yeah. Nah, like ⁓ kinda like what ⁓ Corey's wife was about the same thing, first half hour into the movie, like the first thirty minutes for me was kinda like ⁓ it it was kinda uncomfortable. That's how I felt in a way. And I was like, ⁓ okay, it's one of these Corey: No, you go out. You go. Samuel De Lorenzo: Ha ha Daniel (Pacco): Try and kill your wife sort of movies. Or honey film, depends which way you look at it. Yeah, it was interesting with the whole spot of like, ⁓ her side of the story now, how she knew things. Where are we going with this? ⁓ criminals coming from the roof. And ⁓ his dad coming at the end. Corey: ⁓ God. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Like like that's the bit that kinda ⁓ got to me at the end. Leah he tells his son to run, but why would you let your old man just die like that? It's just like And it was such a horrible way to go. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah, he got such a brutal ending for such it just went straight right, straight left, really hard quickly. Because it you that whole thing of like, ⁓ the dad's here, he's gonna save them. That's excit you know, the unexpected character pops in at the last second to fix it. And then you're just like, What the like that was so brutal. That was looked so painful. He went from having this perfect shot, he blew off that guy's head, I'm like, ⁓ my god, yes. Yes, they've they've done it. They've they've ⁓ got away from these horrible people and then it just turned again so quickly, like, ⁓ no, this is much worse. ⁓ my god, now he's gonna deal with the death of his dad as well. my lord, that just really brut this we've gotta we've gotta know this film is ⁓ 18+ Like this is quite a violent film and it probably didn't need to be. No, no, no, it's a hard R, yeah, and this is an Australian R, so it's the f it's the Daniel (Pacco): ⁓ it's not P G thirteen. No Samuel De Lorenzo: pretty much as violent as you can have it released without it being, I guess, yeah, very intense. ⁓ and it probably didn't it was quite gruesome in some ways. I think the this film also does something that I always kind of find funny with these kind of gruesome horror films, is that they have these gruesome, what looks like really painful injuries and then kind of brush them like I don't about you guys, but if my fingers were chopped off I probably would be screaming in pain for like the majority of the next half an hour. I know the adrenaline's probably like rushing to them because some crazy guy's trying to kill them. But like I would be screaming in pain after a while. When he's at the end of the movie they're like sit and like, ⁓ I guess we're gonna be alright, you know, that everything's gonna be I'm like at all in my brain, I'm like, he has lost at least two fingers. Like, he should have lost a lot of blood. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, dropped in front of him too. Corey: Yeah, there was a lot of like unrealistic moments in the film. But then at the same time, you know, the type of movie it is, it's you know, you sort of expect those things to happen like unrealistic stuff. But especially going back to when the dad rocked up. my god, I was so stupid. 'Cause like at the beginning he's talking to his son about like, you know, ⁓ you you need to be in a war, you need a fight and you know, wars are good and all this stuff. And then at the end he's like, run, son. And it's like, shouldn't you be like fight? You know? Cause before you're like, you should be in a war. But that was so stupid how they ran off. And so the dad's like left to fight them. I'm like, they could have finished off those two villains. when they were fighting the dad when he just shot the the girl in the foot. hello, we've got a visitor. ⁓ Yep. ⁓ yeah, there was a lot of moments. Samuel De Lorenzo: ⁓ we got a visitor here. It's like what are you doing, Dad? Corey: Where I was just like, man, they should have just killed them off. Like when ⁓ the guy f came out of the toilet and then waxed the ⁓ big prisoner with the ⁓ the ball in the sock. Yeah. I was just like, You should have grabbed the knife and just finished him off. But anyway, you know, they need the story to continue on and for him to come back with Daniel (Pacco): ⁓ the pole ball. Yeah, yeah. Samuel De Lorenzo: ⁓ the the billiard ball, yes. See Yeah. ⁓ yeah. That That wasn't as violent, yeah. I thought that was gonna be way more violent than it was. Like it was just he just put a sock in a It was yeah, it could have been way more way worse. Daniel (Pacco): w what happened like ten minutes later when they were all stabbing the knives in his back and everything and then Yeah. ⁓ Corey: Yeah. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. He just kept walking it off. Just walk Corey: then he came back later on and I was like, as if, come on. ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah, he he did walk up quite casually. It was you know, if I'd had at least ten stab wounds to the spine, I'd probably be having a little bit of a limp, but no, he seemed absolutely fine. I'm really glad he the Yeah, just just a flesh wound, as you say. I've got to ask you guys, did you notice so first of all the two leads of the film, Samara Weaving and Jason Siegel. Samara Weaving is a Australian treasure and Daniel (Pacco): Just a little. Just walk it off now. Samuel De Lorenzo: She sort of has I I still couldn't pick what accent they were trying to go for. It w I think it was Australian and she is an Australian. She has a normal Australian accent. But it was this especially when she was angry, it was this really weird like it it was like an American trying to it I feel like she's a Australian trying to have an American accent, trying to be an Amer Australian accent. It just that weird d it just sounded weird. Am I right? Did you guys have any of that? Like was this an odd accent? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. No, I I'm just trying to remember the quote in the movie, ⁓ the husband he says something along the lines like, ⁓ your accent. It's like a cross between the English and the devil or something like that. But I did love the quotes that she put in there, like calling someone a gronk, one o'clock motherfucker. ⁓ sorry. ⁓ a few giggles. Did love the Aussie moment. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yes, English and the devil. Yeah. Ha ha ha. Yeah, I think it's we like see we like seeing Aussies in Hollywood. It's you they're they they're really hard done by a lot of the time. So it's really good to see them making their mark out there. she does do a lot of these kind of similar, gruesome horrors. She was also in one called The Babysitter on Netflix, which I think was a lot of fun as well. I don't know if you guys have seen that one. And it's basically a ⁓ Daniel (Pacco): ⁓ I don't know, I I can't trust the judgment anymore. Samuel De Lorenzo: I think you're gonna learn to realise you can't trust my judgment on most films. I do you know how I and I'll explain this I'm sure a million times over, but how I rate films is I don't rate them always necessarily on the quality of the film, but Daniel (Pacco): Ha Samuel De Lorenzo: how much I enjoyed them and in the circumstance I enjoyed them. For example, I went to a screening of Black Adam a couple of years ago and I know the movie's terrible. Absolute garbage film. But I had a great time at a big popcorn, went to go to IMAX, saw it. Everyone for some reason was cheering at the end of the movie. It was real weird. But like it was a fun time and I had a good time. And I love when movies are a fun time. And that's why and you guys are gonna like scoff at this, right? So I'm used the Letterboxd system and I rated this film four out of five stars. Daniel (Pacco): No way. No way. Samuel De Lorenzo: Because I had a great time. Daniel (Pacco): I was looking at review I was actually looking over on it and I was look Man, mine didn't even come close to that. I think I gave it one and a half or two. Corey: That's perfect. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. One and so look at yeah, I'm sure our opinions will change a little bit and and will vary in times, but ⁓ I'm I'm sorry you didn't have an a as an enjoyable time as I did. Daniel (Pacco): Hey look, I don't mind watching a movie and just shutting off my brain and just you know like Black Adam, let's use that as an example, those slow mo scenes when he attacks the military and all that. That's that's just fun to just watch and go whatever. But I'm more I like to be invested into a movie. That's where I I guess that's where I like getting into you know. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Do you do you feel like this movie wasn't ⁓ the plot of it wasn't enjoyable in term do you it's i I I think, you know, horror or gore h gory fans are gonna jump on this and do you think it's because it's do do you think it's worth their time? Anyone who who would enjoy this film, do you think? Daniel (Pacco): Well, you you pretty much claimed earlier that you were pretty much sadistic. So ⁓ I look I like a bit of gore in the movie. I like seeing the creativity how people put in that like that shot where they took it the gun and get that guy's head just blown clean off. I was thinking, wow, that's pretty good effects. I mean, ⁓ gonna lie, I'd watch that again, but yeah, look, I I don't mind a bit of gore, but if the movie's just Samuel De Lorenzo: Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): Hollow and trash. I mean I'm just gonna sit there and be like, well, could be doing something else with fun but well Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. I wanna say also, I the re I think the reason I picked this movie ⁓ the when I was scrolling through it was the first one is Jason Siegel. I think I love Jason Siegel so much. He just Although he seems to play the same character in some regard. I mean obviously, you know, the Q is slightly different. But, you know, it starts from how I met your mother playing Marshall Erickson all the way through now. And ⁓ I don't know if you guys have seen Shrinking on Apple. Great show. Absolutely love watching him. He just seems to play this kind of half sad loser, but it's kind of fun. Like he's still, you know, you kinda want to be friends with him. And every time he s pops up like that and and then it just makes me want to watch more of him. And I think I don't know why, maybe I I not gonna say I associate with him or sorry I not that I see myself in him by any means but he just seems to be this kind of like you know only makes things worse for himself so you kinda just want to cringe cringe at him. Daniel (Pacco): say kind of like the same in this movie, it just sounds like it was recycled a little bit. But I have noticed with Samara, ⁓ she was in a movie pretty much similar to this, Ready or Not. Have you watched that movie? Yeah. ⁓ dude, it shits all over this. Sorry again. I mean ⁓ like if you want to see her acting, watch her in that. It's pretty much the same. She'll be incovered in blood by the end of the movie, but Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Just feeling just feeling bad watching him. Corey: Yeah. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yes. No, I haven't, but I reckon I should because I think Okay. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Yeah. Can't believe you haven't watched that already or not. Seriously. Samuel De Lorenzo: Blood and goal, that's what we want. No, I it's it's funny. I usually can't get away with much horror stuff. My fiance Teigan doesn't really like horror. So I'm not sure how I got past this one. I think I didn't show her that it was an R eighteen film. And I got it saying, ⁓ these people, you know, there's a couple that wants to kill each other. It's like that sounds fun. I think that's how I got past her. ⁓ Daniel (Pacco): It's Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I'm not kidding, watch ready or not, and it's definitely a step after what you just watched on me. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah? Alright. Okay. So we're saying basically that this ⁓ over your dead body is basically just a budget step down from ready or not. Daniel (Pacco): Pretty much you tell me the plot's almost exactly the same. Husband tries to kill wife well sorry, I don't mean to spoil the next movie, but about you, Corey? Samuel De Lorenzo: that's okay. We can I ⁓ sure I can tell. Corey: Yeah, I haven't watched ⁓ was it ready ready or not? yeah, actually going into the movie, to be honest, I was like, ⁓ this is like some indie low budget film that Sam's picked. Like I didn't know any of the actors, or like any of their other works that they've done. I have watched The Babysitter, which was it was good. The sequel was trash, but the first one was pretty decent. ⁓ Daniel (Pacco): Ready or not. Samuel De Lorenzo: Mm-hmm. Corey: But yeah, I didn't know it was the same actress. But ⁓ yeah, I don't really know them in any other ⁓ movie or anything. I thought they were all just, yeah, up and coming actors, indie indie movie. Yeah. ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. What are you rate of Corey? If you don't mind me through jumping in there. Samuel De Lorenzo: I mean that. Corey: ⁓ I'd probably rate it three out of five. So yeah, it's not like the type of movie I would normally watch. ⁓ but the main thing I liked was like just the unexpected turns and how like you know, was it Harry or the accomplice who came in and then the prisoners who came in, then the dad. It was just all very unexpected and different sort of changed the not the vibe, but Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Corey: Gave it a almost a bit of fresh air every now and then 'cause it started to feel like I was getting a bit stale, but it was like, ⁓ new perspective here and new characters and that. So it was enjoyable. so yeah, three. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. We did not talk about the friend at all. 'Cause he got real hard done by it. He's like, ⁓ I'm gonna get this cash and then just suddenly they're they decide to accidentally shoot him and kill him and then they'll and then in in the end it's like, ⁓ well, you know, we may have murdered our cold friend in blood, but we fell back in love because people tried to kill us, so he really got hard done by there. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Yeah, I I I I'll let you jump in. Corey: ⁓ yeah, only getting a hundred K ⁓ for, you know, helping with the murder and then yeah, the wife is like, ⁓ no, it's a million dollars and that was kind of funny when they're like, ⁓ I'll give you five hundred thousand and then he's like, I'll give you more and all that. So But yeah. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. And you might as well be my friend. Corey: Yeah, that was hilarious. Yeah, it's like make sure we gotta hang out now and Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Did he ask, can I bring the boat? Can we go out on the boat? Like, no, we have to kill my wife, goddammit. Daniel (Pacco): ⁓ see. Samuel De Lorenzo: He just wanted to go out on the boat. He just wanted a friend. This poor guy. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Just get to cut off too soon. I honestly thought the movie was gonna change direction. Like I I didn't watch the trailer like I said earlier, but I thought it was gonna be like, ⁓ we accidentally killed our this guy that's hard the body and we'll fall in love or some shit like that. You know, I thought it was gonna go that sort of term, but like we just discussed it went completely different. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you think did you guys think they would get they would fall back in love at the end? Corey: I didn't really know what to expect. Just with everything going on, I'm like at some stage I was like, ⁓ they'll both survive and live, but I didn't know what the outcome would be. So which turned into a typical happy Hollywood ending, which I I do like. Daniel (Pacco): Well that was gone. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): They just stayed friends at the end, right? Yeah. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Spi speaking of like a Hollywood ending, they they literally have a Hollywood ending with him you know, it's the whole movie they're talking about. Jason Segal's character being this ⁓ becoming going from this one time indie director to essentially being a big time producer, getting to produce the the movie ⁓ sorry, or direct the movie about this traumatic experience. And I love that they just and that Samara Weaving's character decided, you know what, I'm gonna play myself in the most traumatic moment of my life again and relive it again in the basement. For Hollywood ending where they essentially become ⁓ yeah, ⁓ essentially ⁓ a bit you know Yeah. Like what way to relive your trauma. And to make bank on it, I guess. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, you got ⁓ Corey: Well, they were in a pull of money at the get go, so now they're gonna be cashed up with this movie. So I guess, you know, she can handle the trauma. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Exactly right. What a what a good way. All so let's get some official rating. I know we s we we sort of mentioned it, but so I gave it four out of five. Was it Corey, you gave it? Daniel (Pacco): ⁓ Corey: Three out of five. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah, and Paco. Is it did you say two out of ten or two out of five? That's the we got the we the Letterboxd system here. Mathematically, probably two out I can't do the maths on the run here. Daniel (Pacco): Two, come on. You can't say it's that good. ⁓ what's worse? What's worse? Nah, look, if we're going a Letterboxd, I'm just gonna say two out of five. Samuel De Lorenzo: Two out of five. There you go. That's not, you know, that could be worse. Yeah, look, I think I had a great time with this. I don't think I'll ever watch it again. It's it's it's which is probably where it's I probably shouldn't be as high as a four, but I I walked away having a really fun time. Whereas it sounds like you guys had a bit of a nightmare with your wives there, so yeah. Okay, yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, well Corey: decent Daniel (Pacco): You did. Corey: my wife liked it actually in the end. So yeah. Yeah. It was enjoyable. Like yeah, the just the twists and turns. but yeah, I wouldn't watch it again. And it's just not my type of movie, so Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Well, then you're not gonna like ready or not. ⁓ shit. Don't flip that coin. Samuel De Lorenzo: Ha ha ha. Corey: Yeah, don't pick it. Samuel De Lorenzo: Yeah. Corey: Yeah. Samuel De Lorenzo: I guess as we get to the end of this here, we should pick another movie to watch because you know, with the same with book clubs, you need something to watch or to to read. So now we need to pick something to watch. ⁓ I said I would flip a coin, but I definitely didn't grab a coin in the car that I had. So ⁓ does anyone do either of you guys have a coin? ⁓ got a coin. It's twenty twenty six guys. Like, where am I gonna get a coin from? Daniel (Pacco): He said it wasn't for care. I got a coin. I've got a coin. who wants head and who wants tails? Samuel De Lorenzo: All right. Okay, well it's between yourself and Cory, so whoever's calling it and then whoever calls it gets to pick the next movie. Corey: Okay. Daniel (Pacco): Shit, I've gotta think of a movie. ⁓ well I know the movie anyway. Sorry Corey. You got a movie in your head? ⁓ heads or tails. Samuel De Lorenzo: Ha ha ha. Corey: ⁓ Yeah yeah yeah I'm ready. Tails. Daniel (Pacco): Ooh, it's head. we like that. Alright. ⁓ right, fuck. I'm my bad. Alright. Ready or not, watch that movie. It's on the same level of intense pain, gore, and all that stuff. But it's up a tier, mate. Come on. And if you don't like it, you give me shit, yeah? ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: Ooh, there we go. ⁓ two dollars, mate. Made of money over here. All right. Okay. Alright, let's go back in the s ⁓ we will, absolutely. that's good. I'm glad we've got this one now. ⁓ well that comes to the end of this ⁓ yet to be named podcast, which we can retroactively add in later, I'm sure. But ⁓ I would say, I mean, again, I don't really want anyone to follow me, but ⁓ if you want to check us out on Letterboxd, you can. I I don't actually know my Letterboxd name, but I'll put it in some show notes. Do you guys want to plug anything? Corey: Yeah. All right. Daniel (Pacco): nothing to say. I don't even know if I have a letterbox official name, but I it's probably too embarrassing to reveal online, so ⁓ Samuel De Lorenzo: we'll ⁓ we'll fix that up and we'll ⁓ we'll post it down the show notes there. But ⁓ thanks for jumping on guys and chatting about this movie. I know it was I'm sorry for putting you through a traumatic experience, but ⁓ hopefully we can enjoy some ha find some more enjoyable films to sit down and talk about. ⁓ guys. No worries. Bye. Daniel (Pacco): Thanks for allowing me to embarrass myself online. it's all good guys. Cheers for the chat. ⁓ Corey: Yeah, good thing you will. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. till next week. Samuel De Lorenzo: Don't actually quit by the way. hit ⁓ Daniel (Pacco): Shit. Okay.