Latest / The Death Of Journalism / Episode One Hundred Eighty Two: Popping The Joy Balloon
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and eighty two of
- 0:03Speaker 1: the Death of Journalism podcasts. My name is John Zickler.
- 0:05Speaker 1: I'm your host on today's show. The Democratic Convention begins
- 0:09Speaker 1: in Chicago, but it will not go down the way
- 0:11Speaker 1: it should if Democrats were really the Democracy Party. Kamala
- 0:16Speaker 1: Harris reveals she may really be a communist, and the
- 0:20Speaker 1: Washington Post of New York Times makes some startling admissions. Meanwhile,
- 0:24Speaker 1: ESPN further embarrasses itself with extreme wokeness. This week, the
- 0:32Speaker 1: Democratic Convention begins in Chicago. Now, in the modern era,
- 0:37Speaker 1: Republican and Democratic conventions have become really totally superfluous, meaningless shows.
- 0:45Speaker 1: The media coverage of them has diminished greatly, at least
- 0:49Speaker 1: in prime time on the major networks, and for good reason,
- 0:53Speaker 1: because very little actually happens that is significant, other than
- 0:57Speaker 1: maybe the presidential candidates speech accepting the nomination. This year,
- 1:03Speaker 1: the Republican convention was a bit different in theory because
- 1:06Speaker 1: of the assassination attempt against Donald Trump just a couple
- 1:10Speaker 1: of days before. But in this era generally conventions are
- 1:14Speaker 1: totally antiquated. However, under the circumstances, the very unique circumstances
- 1:21Speaker 1: of this particular election, This Democratic Convention should should, if
- 1:29Speaker 1: everybody was remotely consistent with their public beliefs, should have
- 1:34Speaker 1: been the most dramatic in modern history. And it should
- 1:38Speaker 1: not even be close. The reason I say that is
- 1:41Speaker 1: because if the Democratic Party was really the party of democracy,
- 1:48Speaker 1: if they really believed in democratic principles, what would have
- 1:52Speaker 1: happened after Joe Biden decided to drop out is that
- 1:56Speaker 1: they would have an open convention, a convention where the
- 2:01Speaker 1: delegates actually voted on who will be the Democratic presidential
- 2:07Speaker 1: and vice presidential nominees. This is the way things used
- 2:11Speaker 1: to happen at conventions. And then eventually the party bosses realized,
- 2:15Speaker 1: you know what, this is probably not sustainable in this
- 2:19Speaker 1: quote unquote democratic world in which we're now living, and
- 2:23Speaker 1: it became a situation where the primaries and caucuses mattered,
- 2:27Speaker 1: and by the time the conventions came around, they were
- 2:30Speaker 1: now irrelevant. Now, there's so many different aspects of this
- 2:34Speaker 1: story that I'm leading with partially because nobody else, nobody
- 2:38Speaker 1: else is going to tell this story about conventions this
- 2:43Speaker 1: week of the Democratic Convention. At least, that's my instinct
- 2:46Speaker 1: that because the mainstream news media is so completely in
- 2:50Speaker 1: the tank for the Democratic Party, they're not going to
- 2:52Speaker 1: tell you the way things should actually be operating right now.
- 2:56Speaker 1: If the Democratic Party was not a bunch of hypocrites. See,
- 2:59Speaker 1: I have no problem really. It's a little bit dirty pool,
- 3:03Speaker 1: but that's what politics is. I have no problem really
- 3:06Speaker 1: with Joe Biden deciding to step down after the Republican
- 3:10Speaker 1: convention and after the first debate. I mean, it's sketchy,
- 3:15Speaker 1: but okay, fine. We have a process for that. It's
- 3:19Speaker 1: called the convention. So the person that got all the
- 3:22Speaker 1: almost all the delegates during the primary season has dropped out.
- 3:28Speaker 1: That means that the delegates are now all free agents
- 3:32Speaker 1: and they will vote in an open and democratic process
- 3:36Speaker 1: at the convention. But Democrats realized, you know what, we
- 3:42Speaker 1: can't do that in this particular situation, especially because if
- 3:46Speaker 1: we do that, it's going to be chaos. It's going
- 3:50Speaker 1: to be a free for all. There's very little assurance
- 3:53Speaker 1: that the candidate that we have to have, which is
- 3:56Speaker 1: Kamala Harris because she's a woman of color and she's
- 4:00Speaker 1: the vice president the United States, is going to win
- 4:02Speaker 1: that nomination, or at the very least no evidence that
- 4:05Speaker 1: she would win it easily. We would probably lose control
- 4:09Speaker 1: over who the vice presidential nominee would be because it
- 4:11Speaker 1: would have to be used as a bargaining chip in
- 4:15Speaker 1: order to make sure that Kamala got enough votes from
- 4:18Speaker 1: the delegates. And by the way, I'm not pretending that
- 4:21Speaker 1: Kamala Harris wouldn't eventually have been the nominee anyway, I
- 4:25Speaker 1: think that would be the most likely scenario. But I
- 4:28Speaker 1: think it would have been brutal. I think it would
- 4:31Speaker 1: have been beyond chaotic. I think it would have allowed
- 4:35Speaker 1: many in the Democratic Party and at that convention to
- 4:38Speaker 1: let their freak flag fly. It would have been ugly
- 4:42Speaker 1: as hell. There would have been no consensus. There would
- 4:45Speaker 1: have been all sorts of criticisms of Kamala Harris and
- 4:50Speaker 1: every other candidate that put their hat in the ring.
- 4:53Speaker 1: And that's even under the circumstances where the Democratic Party
- 4:56Speaker 1: tried to fix it so that Kamala would win. Now
- 4:58Speaker 1: you may recall, right Biden announced he was withdrawing that
- 5:03Speaker 1: there were Democrats and those in the media that were
- 5:06Speaker 1: pretending that we were going to have at least somewhat
- 5:10Speaker 1: of a pretend open process, not an open convention, but
- 5:13Speaker 1: an open process, and I said at the time, well,
- 5:16Speaker 1: that's going to be a sham. Well, they were so
- 5:19Speaker 1: terrified of opening up this Pandora's box that there would
- 5:23Speaker 1: be chaos that would ensue. They were so afraid of
- 5:27Speaker 1: their own base of support, and I think rightfully so,
- 5:30Speaker 1: that they decided, you know what, we can't even have
- 5:32Speaker 1: a pretend process because that we have a pretend process
- 5:36Speaker 1: and we opened the Pandora's box. We have no idea
- 5:39Speaker 1: where this might end up. So we're gonna shut this
- 5:41Speaker 1: thing down from the start. We are going to tell
- 5:45Speaker 1: everybody that it's Kamala and that's it. And so the
- 5:49Speaker 1: party bosses, the party elites, they all decided, Okay, it's
- 5:53Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, everyone else, shut the fuck up, and this
- 5:56Speaker 1: is what we're doing. And everyone just went along. The
- 6:00Speaker 1: entire Democratic Party just went along. There were a couple
- 6:03Speaker 1: of minor murmurs, but by and large, everyone just went along.
- 6:09Speaker 1: It was interesting to me, very interesting to me that
- 6:12Speaker 1: Maureen Dowd, a very liberal famous columnist for the New
- 6:15Speaker 1: York Times, this past weekend wrote a column the Dems
- 6:19Speaker 1: are delighted, but a coup is still a coup. I
- 6:24Speaker 1: was like, Wow, somebody at least stood up and said,
- 6:27Speaker 1: this is crazy what's happened here, especially since we're just
- 6:31Speaker 1: going to pretend. That's the part I hate about this.
- 6:33Speaker 1: I always hate playing pretend, and we play pretend so
- 6:36Speaker 1: much in this day and age. But we're all just
- 6:38Speaker 1: supposed to play pretend that this is the proper process,
- 6:42Speaker 1: That there isn't such a thing as an open convention,
- 6:45Speaker 1: that there isn't such a situation that would be perfectly
- 6:48Speaker 1: normal and keeping within democratic norms that the Democratic Party
- 6:52Speaker 1: in the media like to talk so much about, where
- 6:55Speaker 1: you simply open up the process. You have the delegates there,
- 6:59Speaker 1: that's what they're there, and then they vote after a
- 7:04Speaker 1: what would seemingly be a rigorous debate over who should
- 7:07Speaker 1: be the presidential nominee and who should be the vice
- 7:10Speaker 1: presidential nominee. That's the price the Democrats should have had
- 7:15Speaker 1: to pay going through that process, going through the conflict
- 7:19Speaker 1: that it would create, the chaos that it would create,
- 7:22Speaker 1: the division that it would create. That's the price they
- 7:25Speaker 1: should have had to pay for having a presidential nominee
- 7:30Speaker 1: Joe Biden who couldn't get to the finish line because
- 7:34Speaker 1: he physically wasn't capable of doing so, and because he
- 7:37Speaker 1: was going to lose. And that's the part of that
- 7:40Speaker 1: about this that drives me so crazy as someone who
- 7:43Speaker 1: doesn't like Donald Trump, but who fears the hell out
- 7:46Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris. I thought for sure this was a
- 7:49Speaker 1: great miscalculation on my part. I thought for sure there
- 7:53Speaker 1: would be some price to pay forgetting to Kamala Harris
- 7:58Speaker 1: as the presidential nominee, whether that was in the division
- 8:03Speaker 1: created by the process or in the price that they
- 8:07Speaker 1: would have to pay for avoiding any sort of democratic
- 8:11Speaker 1: process while simultaneously claiming to be the party of democracy.
- 8:16Speaker 1: That's so frustrating to me. And I blame in part
- 8:20Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and Trump himself for not forcing Democrats
- 8:25Speaker 1: to pick a lane, especially during the Republican Convention. I've
- 8:29Speaker 1: talked about this many times before, where there was a
- 8:32Speaker 1: great opportunity to close off escape patches and to force
- 8:35Speaker 1: there to be pain, forced there to be punishment for
- 8:39Speaker 1: Democrats doing what it was obvious they wanted to do.
- 8:43Speaker 1: And there are only a couple of scenarios that were plausible.
- 8:46Speaker 1: There are early only two at the time of the
- 8:48Speaker 1: Republican Convention. Either Biden hangs on for dear life. Because
- 8:53Speaker 1: Democrats were afraid of an open process or two, they
- 8:58Speaker 1: decided to get rid of Biden finally caves in. They
- 9:02Speaker 1: rally around Harris, and they avoid any sort of democratic
- 9:05Speaker 1: process because they know the dangers involved in that. And
- 9:10Speaker 1: unfortunately Trump and the Republican Party allowed them to escape
- 9:16Speaker 1: from this news that this was a situation where they
- 9:20Speaker 1: were trapped and they got out of it. Now, to
- 9:22Speaker 1: be clear, part of how the Democrats got out of
- 9:25Speaker 1: this was that other than Maureen Dowd, nobody in the
- 9:29Speaker 1: media was willing to call them out on this. Nobody
- 9:32Speaker 1: in the mainstream news media. Everyone just went around along
- 9:36Speaker 1: with it. Why because they knew it was the only
- 9:41Speaker 1: way to plausibly beat Trump. They knew the dangers politically
- 9:46Speaker 1: of it. And I've talked a lot about how in
- 9:48Speaker 1: the last couple of months, especially brazenly openly, the mainstream
- 9:53Speaker 1: news media has acted as if they are the campaign
- 9:58Speaker 1: managers for the Democratic Party. They saw that Biden wasn't
- 10:02Speaker 1: going to be able to get the job done, and
- 10:04Speaker 1: they got rid of him, and they saw that the
- 10:06Speaker 1: only option going forward was to route down Kamala, So
- 10:10Speaker 1: they decided to facilitate that and there was going to
- 10:13Speaker 1: be no dissent, none, and forget about this whole idea
- 10:17Speaker 1: of an open convention. And this is what is so
- 10:20Speaker 1: amazing and maybe the primary point considering this is the
- 10:24Speaker 1: death of journalism podcast. You know, when I was younger,
- 10:28Speaker 1: I'm fifty seven now, but I mean I've been following
- 10:31Speaker 1: politics closely for almost all my life, since I was
- 10:34Speaker 1: about ten years old. And you know, when I was
- 10:37Speaker 1: a younger man, the ultimate dream, the dream of political
- 10:42Speaker 1: reporters was an open convention. That was the dream that
- 10:48Speaker 1: someday the circumstances may conspire to where we have an
- 10:53Speaker 1: old fashioned open convention, real democracy, right out in front
- 10:57Speaker 1: of everybody, and it would be dramatic, and you know,
- 11:02Speaker 1: your sources would matter, your reporting would matter, the conventions
- 11:05Speaker 1: would matter, the audiences would be engaged because this is
- 11:09Speaker 1: something we haven't seen in a very long time. It
- 11:12Speaker 1: would be a reality show. This was the dream. And
- 11:17Speaker 1: then in two thousand and eight, I've talked so many
- 11:19Speaker 1: times and I will continue to do so, including later
- 11:21Speaker 1: on this podcast, about all the remarkable parallels between two
- 11:26Speaker 1: thousand and eight election and the twenty twenty four election.
- 11:29Speaker 1: They are increasing almost on a daily basis. But as
- 11:33Speaker 1: I was doing my documentary film Media mal Practice, Obama
- 11:36Speaker 1: got elected in Panlin was targeted. One of the many
- 11:38Speaker 1: things that I found to be striking about what happened
- 11:42Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. To this day, nobody ever
- 11:45Speaker 1: talks about We just pretend, we just ignore it. We
- 11:50Speaker 1: had a situation in two thousand and eight where if
- 11:53Speaker 1: the news media had wanted there to be an open
- 11:57Speaker 1: convention on the Democratic side between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton,
- 12:02Speaker 1: it was there for the taking. And nobody ever talks
- 12:08Speaker 1: about this. We just pretend that Barack Obama clearly won
- 12:13Speaker 1: the Democratic nomination from Hillary Clinton. He did not. He
- 12:18Speaker 1: did not. He actually got fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.
- 12:23Speaker 1: He only got more delegates than Hillary Clinton because they
- 12:28Speaker 1: took delegates away from Florida and Michigan where Hillary had
- 12:32Speaker 1: won because of technical issues, and the news there was
- 12:38Speaker 1: a whole debate about this. They had like a panel
- 12:41Speaker 1: to appeal what was happening with these delegates, and there
- 12:45Speaker 1: was some media coverage of it. But in the rational
- 12:50Speaker 1: journalism world, the world that I grew up in the world,
- 12:54Speaker 1: it was kind of expecting to happen, at least a
- 12:56Speaker 1: little bit in two thousand and eight, there would have
- 12:59Speaker 1: been a self interest on the part of the news
- 13:02Speaker 1: media to say, hey, wait a minute, why don't we
- 13:05Speaker 1: decide this at the convention. We have two candidates with
- 13:08Speaker 1: virtually the same number of delegates. Why is Hillary being
- 13:12Speaker 1: cheated out of her delegates in Florida and Michigan. Let
- 13:16Speaker 1: the process go forward. That would have been one democratic
- 13:20Speaker 1: and two and not to mention legal, but in three
- 13:24Speaker 1: this would have been exactly in the media's self interest
- 13:28Speaker 1: because they would have had their their open convention. But
- 13:33Speaker 1: there was something bigger going on, much bigger, that actually
- 13:38Speaker 1: trumped their personal self interest, the media self interest to
- 13:42Speaker 1: have an open convention, and that was Barack Obama. We
- 13:47Speaker 1: could not do anything I'm talking about from the media's
- 13:50Speaker 1: perspective here. We could not do anything to jeopardize the
- 13:54Speaker 1: nomination of the first black man to be the Democratic
- 13:58Speaker 1: presidential nominee. No, no, no, no, forget about the fact
- 14:02Speaker 1: that Hillary was trying to be the first female president.
- 14:06Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, Sorry, Sorry, Hillary. We have
- 14:10Speaker 1: decided Barack is more interesting, he's better for ratings, and
- 14:14Speaker 1: we've decided that being black is more powerful than being
- 14:18Speaker 1: a female. Sorry, and we're just going to go along
- 14:22Speaker 1: with this whole idea of usurping an open convention, and
- 14:27Speaker 1: Hillary lost her guts and decided, you know what, this
- 14:30Speaker 1: is hopeless. If I push this too hard, I'm going
- 14:33Speaker 1: to get destroyed because the media made it clear they
- 14:36Speaker 1: were on Obama's side and not on hers. And we
- 14:42Speaker 1: have a somewhat similar situation happened. I get twenty twenty four,
- 14:46Speaker 1: where the news could have easily and should have, given
- 14:51Speaker 1: the fact that the Democratic Party has placed so much
- 14:53Speaker 1: of their identity on the idea that they are the
- 14:56Speaker 1: Party of democracy and Donald Trump is their anti democracy candidate,
- 15:02Speaker 1: that they would have, in a remotely rational world been saying, Okay,
- 15:07Speaker 1: so Joe Biden has decided to drop out. That frees
- 15:10Speaker 1: up all the delegates. So what's going to happen at
- 15:13Speaker 1: this open convention? Boy, this is going to be interesting.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Whoa wha wait wait wait, whoa wait. Democrats, you're not
- 15:17Speaker 1: going to have an open convention. How can you possibly
- 15:20Speaker 1: be the party of democracy? You're going to nominate somebody
- 15:24Speaker 1: for president with no open process, no open convention, without
- 15:29Speaker 1: one single vote ever being cast on their behalf in
- 15:33Speaker 1: their entire life for the office of president. How could
- 15:38Speaker 1: you possibly do that, and how could you possibly do
- 15:41Speaker 1: that claiming to be the party of democracy? And yet
- 15:47Speaker 1: there was none of that. Why Because, very similar to
- 15:50Speaker 1: what happened in two thousand and eight, the news media
- 15:54Speaker 1: put the interests of the Democratic Party over their own
- 15:59Speaker 1: personal interest and the interests of journalism and the interests
- 16:03Speaker 1: of democracy and a transparent democratic process, because they realized,
- 16:09Speaker 1: once again, acting as the campaign managers for the Democratic Party,
- 16:13Speaker 1: they realized, Okay, we got rid of the guy who
- 16:16Speaker 1: couldn't win for you, Joe Biden, and now we're gonna
- 16:19Speaker 1: sit on our hands and allow you to be complete
- 16:22Speaker 1: and total hypocrites by imposing Kamala Harris as your nominee
- 16:29Speaker 1: without even an open process, without an open convention. You
- 16:33Speaker 1: did it before the convention even happened, for technical reasons,
- 16:38Speaker 1: and we're just gonna allow this to happen. We're not
- 16:40Speaker 1: going to call any foul here, we're not going to object.
- 16:44Speaker 1: In fact, we're going to give Kamala Harris unprecedentedly positive
- 16:48Speaker 1: media coverage. Why Because we are smart enough to know
- 16:52Speaker 1: that if this were to be an open process at
- 16:55Speaker 1: an open convention in Chicago, it would make nineteen sioked
- 17:00Speaker 1: like a picnic, and they know they understood that. And
- 17:04Speaker 1: by the way, it was true. Again, I think Kamala
- 17:08Speaker 1: probably would have ended up as the nominee, but it
- 17:10Speaker 1: would have come at a major, major price. And I
- 17:14Speaker 1: doubt very seriously that Tim Waltz would have been, for
- 17:18Speaker 1: better or for worse, the vice presidential nominee because of
- 17:20Speaker 1: the reasons I already stated, involving the brok ring for
- 17:24Speaker 1: delegates votes. And so this drives me crazy, and it
- 17:29Speaker 1: actually manifest itself in two different conversations I had over
- 17:33Speaker 1: the weekend in person with liberals, and they went very,
- 17:38Speaker 1: very differently. One actually gave me a little bit of hope,
- 17:41Speaker 1: and the other doused whatever hope I had that rationality
- 17:46Speaker 1: might still went out here. I had a conversation with
- 17:50Speaker 1: my sister in law who was in town visiting with
- 17:52Speaker 1: the cousins. She is a liberal from a non swing state,
- 17:57Speaker 1: a blue state, and I was acting her to vote
- 18:01Speaker 1: for Harris, and she actually initiated a conversation with me
- 18:07Speaker 1: where the bottom line was. She said, no, I was
- 18:10Speaker 1: gonna vote for Biden, but now I can't. I can't
- 18:14Speaker 1: vote for Harris because I just don't trust her. I
- 18:16Speaker 1: don't trust this process, And much to my shock, she
- 18:20Speaker 1: said she would actually vote for Trump. And even more
- 18:23Speaker 1: shocking than that, she said that she has two liberal
- 18:27Speaker 1: mom friends who are in the exact same boat that
- 18:30Speaker 1: they would have voted for Biden. They don't like Trump,
- 18:33Speaker 1: they're liberals, but they just don't like the specifically the
- 18:38Speaker 1: process by which Harris became the nominee. Now, this was
- 18:43Speaker 1: stunning to me. One that, you know, I hate anecdotal evidence.
- 18:48Speaker 1: It's only three people, but three people proactively all in
- 18:53Speaker 1: the same boat, seemingly all for basically the same reasons,
- 18:56Speaker 1: reasons that I had thought we're gonna have. There's some
- 19:00Speaker 1: impact here. I thought, if you recall back when Biden
- 19:05Speaker 1: dropped out, I thought there was at least hope that
- 19:08Speaker 1: there was gonna be a decent chunk of non conservatives
- 19:12Speaker 1: who were just like, yeah, no, this smells This just
- 19:16Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. This feels like dirty pool. You're foisting
- 19:20Speaker 1: Harris upon us. What happened to democracy? I thought there
- 19:24Speaker 1: might be some impact, that people would be able to
- 19:27Speaker 1: figure this out on their own, even at the media
- 19:29Speaker 1: decided to not make it an issue, and Trump was
- 19:31Speaker 1: terrible at making an issue. I thought maybe just maybe
- 19:35Speaker 1: there might be some people out there that had that reaction. Well,
- 19:39Speaker 1: much to my surprise, my sister in law did, and
- 19:42Speaker 1: she again proactively. I did not suggest this to her.
- 19:46Speaker 1: I did say to her, so, what changed your mind?
- 19:49Speaker 1: And it was all about her being very uncomfortable with
- 19:52Speaker 1: this process, that it just doesn't feel right, that there's
- 19:55Speaker 1: something about Harris that she just doesn't like. Now. I
- 19:58Speaker 1: tweeted about this over the week and it got a
- 20:00Speaker 1: lot of response, like, well over a thousand likes and
- 20:04Speaker 1: over fifty thousand views, and I was kind of surprised
- 20:07Speaker 1: by that, because again I don't like antidotal evidence. I
- 20:10Speaker 1: don't think it's all that significant unless it's backed up
- 20:13Speaker 1: by some semblance of data, and I've not seen any
- 20:16Speaker 1: data to back this up at all. But when I
- 20:19Speaker 1: asked about it, it was very interesting that my sister
- 20:24Speaker 1: in law was willing to say that this was a
- 20:27Speaker 1: process situation, a lack of trust situation. And when I
- 20:30Speaker 1: posted about it, the general reaction seemed to be, well,
- 20:34Speaker 1: there could be something to the idea that women are
- 20:38Speaker 1: tougher on women than men are sometimes, and that's partially
- 20:42Speaker 1: why Hillary Clinton didn't come up with the votes that
- 20:45Speaker 1: were expected in twenty sixteen. I think there could be
- 20:47Speaker 1: something to that. I don't know, it's hard to quantify,
- 20:52Speaker 1: but I did find this story that was backed up
- 20:55Speaker 1: by two of her friends in very similar situations, to
- 20:58Speaker 1: be at least worthy of me. But then I had
- 21:01Speaker 1: a conversation with a male liberal, a friend of ours
- 21:05Speaker 1: that we spend a lot of time at the pool
- 21:07Speaker 1: with in the summertimes, and his son has been great
- 21:10Speaker 1: to my daughters, so occasionally we have conversations. This guy
- 21:15Speaker 1: is one of those liberals that pretends he's not really
- 21:18Speaker 1: that liberal, but he's super liberal, which is one of
- 21:22Speaker 1: the more frustrating varieties of liberal to me. If you're
- 21:25Speaker 1: going to be liberal, five, just own it. But this
- 21:28Speaker 1: guy could not understand my objections to the process part
- 21:33Speaker 1: of this at all. And the reason why we got
- 21:36Speaker 1: into this conversation was he he went down the road
- 21:38Speaker 1: of he doesn't like Trump because he's against democracy, and
- 21:42Speaker 1: I went bananas on the whole issue of okay, so
- 21:46Speaker 1: you're the Democracy party and you just did this, this
- 21:49Speaker 1: and this, and you're avoiding the actual process. And he
- 21:52Speaker 1: could not understand what I was talking about at all,
- 21:55Speaker 1: or refused to understand what I was talking about at all,
- 21:58Speaker 1: about an open convention. There was a process, a democratic
- 22:02Speaker 1: process that was set up for this exact situation that
- 22:07Speaker 1: Democrats just decided to do an end run around with
- 22:10Speaker 1: the help of the media because they knew it would
- 22:13Speaker 1: be very, very bad for them, and it had no
- 22:18Speaker 1: impact on this guy whatsoever. So I'm not, as usual,
- 22:23Speaker 1: particularly optimistic that people are going to be able to
- 22:26Speaker 1: figure this out on their own. I did find my
- 22:28Speaker 1: sister in law story to be interesting. I'll keep my
- 22:32Speaker 1: eye out for whether or not there's any actual evidence
- 22:36Speaker 1: of this being a more widespread phenomenon, but it gave
- 22:39Speaker 1: me at least a little bit hop that some people,
- 22:41Speaker 1: even if the media is trying to pretend that this
- 22:44Speaker 1: isn't an issue, are going wait a minute, how did
- 22:47Speaker 1: this happen? How did we get a person who has
- 22:51Speaker 1: never received a vote for president as the nominee of
- 22:54Speaker 1: the Democratic Party without any actual open process less than
- 23:00Speaker 1: ninety days before the election. And as I said many
- 23:05Speaker 1: times before, Trump deserves a lot of blame for allowing
- 23:09Speaker 1: this horse to get out of the barn. And it's very,
- 23:13Speaker 1: very difficult to put it back in the barn once
- 23:14Speaker 1: it's escape. Because of all the reasons I've already stated
- 23:18Speaker 1: regarding what happened with the Republican Convention and not closing
- 23:22Speaker 1: off these escape patches. Now, the news media has done
- 23:26Speaker 1: a typically very bad job of getting to the bottom
- 23:29Speaker 1: of what really happened with regard to the Biden dropout
- 23:32Speaker 1: which set up this entire situation to begin with. The
- 23:36Speaker 1: real drama here has clearly been with Nancy Pelosi. It
- 23:40Speaker 1: has been hilarious, and we played a few clips on
- 23:43Speaker 1: this podcast related to this. It has been hilarious to
- 23:47Speaker 1: watch Pelosi do these interviews and try to dance around
- 23:51Speaker 1: these questions of what her role was in forcing Biden
- 23:55Speaker 1: to drop out. She has convicted herself many times. She
- 23:59Speaker 1: has dodged many of these questions. A lot of the
- 24:02Speaker 1: things that she says doesn't make any damn sense. And
- 24:05Speaker 1: there's a new report out over the last few days.
- 24:07Speaker 1: This is how it was reported in the New York Post,
- 24:10Speaker 1: although the Post was not the source of the original
- 24:13Speaker 1: report that it really was Nancy Pelosi, just as Joe
- 24:17Speaker 1: Biden implied in his one interview that he's done since
- 24:21Speaker 1: withdrawing from the race where he name dropped Nancy Pelosi
- 24:25Speaker 1: in what I found to be a very significant way.
- 24:28Speaker 1: But here's what the New York Post wrote about the
- 24:29Speaker 1: most recent developments. Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had threatened
- 24:33Speaker 1: to publicly trash President Biden if he didn't end his
- 24:38Speaker 1: re election bid, forcing the then ailing commander in chief
- 24:42Speaker 1: into a quote unquote come to Jesus' decision to finally
- 24:47Speaker 1: call it quits, according to a new report about the
- 24:50Speaker 1: final moments of his campaign. Now, when I saw the
- 24:53Speaker 1: come to Jesus moment, I thought, well, that's kind of weird. Odd.
- 24:58Speaker 1: I wonder if that was used on because, as you
- 25:01Speaker 1: may remember, Biden told George Stephanopolis unequivocally that it would
- 25:08Speaker 1: take the Lord Almighty to tell him to drop out
- 25:11Speaker 1: for him to do so. And my number one question
- 25:14Speaker 1: I have many in the aftermath of the withdrawal was okay,
- 25:19Speaker 1: so did the Lord Almighty make their voice heard to you?
- 25:24Speaker 1: Did the Lord Almighty tell you to drop out? Or
- 25:27Speaker 1: is his Nancy Pelosi actually the Lord Almighty when it
- 25:31Speaker 1: comes to democratic politics. So to come to Jesus phrasing
- 25:35Speaker 1: was quite interesting. Back to the article, Pelosi sent an
- 25:39Speaker 1: urgent message to the eighty one year old president last
- 25:43Speaker 1: month while he was still nursing his COVID nineteen infection
- 25:46Speaker 1: at his Delaware beach house. Insiders told The Daily Mail
- 25:52Speaker 1: Pelosi reportedly threatened to publicly trash her longtime friend and
- 25:56Speaker 1: political ally if he continued to ignore thunderous to drop
- 26:00Speaker 1: out of the twenty twenty four the election over fears
- 26:04Speaker 1: for his cognitive abilities. Four sources close to the campaign
- 26:10Speaker 1: told the outlet Pelosi threatened to go public whether her
- 26:13Speaker 1: believed that her fellow Democrat wouldn't beat the Republican nominee,
- 26:17Speaker 1: former President Donald Trump in a rematch, and threatened to
- 26:20Speaker 1: release humiliating pulling data to back it up. The sources
- 26:24Speaker 1: alleged the demand was reportedly forceful enough for Biden to
- 26:28Speaker 1: experience it quote unquote come to Jesus moment where he
- 26:32Speaker 1: and his step began drafting the letter that ended his
- 26:34Speaker 1: twenty twenty four political campaign, which was released on July
- 26:38Speaker 1: twenty first. Now, again, I don't know one hundred percent
- 26:43Speaker 1: how accurate that is. It's the Daily Mail, though they
- 26:45Speaker 1: claim to have four sources. It does seem to make
- 26:48Speaker 1: some sense, but there's been no price to be paid
- 26:52Speaker 1: for that. I mean, it's amazing that Democrats have gotten
- 26:55Speaker 1: away with this, that Kamala Harris gets to unscaled be
- 27:01Speaker 1: hand the denomination without anybody even saying, well, wait a minute,
- 27:05Speaker 1: wasn't she part of the coup? I mean, if Wreen
- 27:07Speaker 1: doubt is saying a coup is still a coup, then
- 27:12Speaker 1: wasn't Harris part of the coup? She's the one that
- 27:15Speaker 1: benefited by far more than anybody else, and Trump and
- 27:21Speaker 1: the Republican Party in the news media have done very
- 27:24Speaker 1: little at all to force Harris to at least bear
- 27:28Speaker 1: that burden. I mean, that's that's the part that drives
- 27:32Speaker 1: me crazy. Make them pick a lane. You can't have
- 27:36Speaker 1: it both ways, and yet Democrats have been somehow been
- 27:40Speaker 1: able to have it both ways when it comes to
- 27:43Speaker 1: the Biden coup. By the way, somewhat related to the
- 27:47Speaker 1: Biden coup, Chuck Todd, who's normally an idiot, actually made
- 27:52Speaker 1: a pretty good point on NBC's Meet the Press, I
- 27:55Speaker 1: believe it was on NBC's Meet the Press, where he
- 27:57Speaker 1: used to be the host this weekend, where he said,
- 28:01Speaker 1: you know, part of why the Biden withdraw has thrown
- 28:06Speaker 1: Trump for such a loop is that psychologically it means
- 28:11Speaker 1: that Trump can never avenge his twenty twenty loss, and
- 28:18Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about it. It's one of those
- 28:19Speaker 1: most very obvious things that you go, oh, okay, actually,
- 28:23Speaker 1: when you put that through the Trump prism, that makes
- 28:28Speaker 1: some sense. Now. I would counter that by saying, Trump
- 28:32Speaker 1: probably thinks he just did avenge. By the way, somebody
- 28:36Speaker 1: ought to tell him this. If I was close to Trump,
- 28:39Speaker 1: I would say, but, mister president, sir, because he loves
- 28:43Speaker 1: being called sir, sir, you did avenge the twenty twenty
- 28:46Speaker 1: election because you forced Joe Biden out of the race
- 28:50Speaker 1: through that debate. So you did win. You avenged the
- 28:53Speaker 1: twenty twenty loss that you claim you didn't actually lose.
- 28:56Speaker 1: But apparently you know. That message has not been given
- 29:01Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, And according to Chuck Todd, he's been
- 29:04Speaker 1: hearing people saying that this has been mentally debilitating to
- 29:08Speaker 1: Trump because not only does he have a new opponent
- 29:11Speaker 1: and you know, like a boxer, you're preparing for a
- 29:15Speaker 1: right hander and then all of a sudden, you get
- 29:16Speaker 1: a south paw and who's a lot younger, and you're
- 29:19Speaker 1: not prepared for it. But also from the standpoint psychologically
- 29:24Speaker 1: that Trump really wanted to beat Biden to show that
- 29:28Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election was in fact a fraud, and
- 29:31Speaker 1: now he can never do that, And so I do
- 29:34Speaker 1: think that psychologically there could be some impact there when
- 29:37Speaker 1: it comes to the way that Trump is handling this
- 29:40Speaker 1: situation and why he has been rather slow to pivot,
- 29:44Speaker 1: even to the point publicly on multiple occasions theorizing de
- 29:50Speaker 1: lougionally that Joe Biden will actually try to get the
- 29:54Speaker 1: nomination back at the GEO the Democratic Convention, which was ever, ever, ever, ever,
- 30:01Speaker 1: ever gonna happen, even if Harris didn't suddenly surge in
- 30:06Speaker 1: the polls and take the lead. I mean, Democrats are
- 30:09Speaker 1: thrilled with this whole thing, and so there's a zero
- 30:12Speaker 1: chance even if Biden had the inclination that he could
- 30:16Speaker 1: even get out of the batter's box and getting denomination back,
- 30:19Speaker 1: even though all those delegates had originally been pledged to him.
- 30:24Speaker 1: So that's the situation with regard to the political element
- 30:27Speaker 1: of the convention and the story that no one else
- 30:30Speaker 1: is going to tell you, By the way, I doubt
- 30:32Speaker 1: even the right wing media is going to tell you
- 30:34Speaker 1: the story that I just did with regard to what
- 30:36Speaker 1: this convention should be about. If the Democratic party really
- 30:41Speaker 1: was the Party of Democracy. There are other stories revolving
- 30:45Speaker 1: around the Democratic Convention, including the issue of protests and
- 30:49Speaker 1: demonstrations by the pro Hamas crowd the anti Israel crowd.
- 30:55Speaker 1: As of this taping, I am skeptical that this is
- 30:59Speaker 1: going to be as big a deal or as negative
- 31:02Speaker 1: and influence over this convention as a lot of Republicans are,
- 31:07Speaker 1: I think being too hopeful about based upon what I've
- 31:10Speaker 1: seen online. This is just a gut instinct. I could
- 31:13Speaker 1: be totally wrong about this, but I've seen it happen
- 31:15Speaker 1: many times before, where you see a story or a
- 31:18Speaker 1: potential problem emerging and Republicans get too hopeful that, Aha,
- 31:23Speaker 1: this is going to get the popcorn out, this is
- 31:25Speaker 1: gonna be great. We're gonna see all this infighting and
- 31:28Speaker 1: Democrats are going to look like creating people and they're
- 31:31Speaker 1: not going to know how to handle this, and we're
- 31:33Speaker 1: gonna see the campus protests all over again. My guess
- 31:36Speaker 1: is we'll probably see something like that. But whenever Republicans
- 31:41Speaker 1: get prematurely hopeful, I automatically think, Okay, this isn't going
- 31:45Speaker 1: to pan out the way that they they think that
- 31:47Speaker 1: it will. But again, I'm no expert on this issue
- 31:50Speaker 1: as to how prepared Chicago is, how how determined the
- 31:55Speaker 1: pro Hamas anti Israel crowd is to cause trouble. Anything's possible.
- 32:01Speaker 1: But here's what I do know. The news media is
- 32:04Speaker 1: going to be very, very very hesitant to create a
- 32:10Speaker 1: lot of attention and focus on these protests demonstrations, and
- 32:14Speaker 1: if they turn into riots, this is not going to
- 32:17Speaker 1: be a major theme of the Democratic Convention if the
- 32:20Speaker 1: news media can help it at all. You know, there
- 32:23Speaker 1: are a lot of people who understandably are making connection
- 32:27Speaker 1: to what happened to the nineteen sixty eight Democratic Convention
- 32:31Speaker 1: in Chicago, which really was a complete cluster fark. I
- 32:36Speaker 1: was just watching a CNN documentary about it the other day,
- 32:39Speaker 1: and what was interesting from a media perspective about that
- 32:42Speaker 1: is that the news media and I only did nothing
- 32:45Speaker 1: to diminish the impact of those protests. It seems like
- 32:50Speaker 1: the news media went out of its way to pour
- 32:52Speaker 1: gasoline on that story. I mean, Dan Rather, who's a
- 32:58Speaker 1: complete total liberal Democrat, was forcing himself into physical confrontations
- 33:04Speaker 1: on the floor of the convention at least partially related
- 33:08Speaker 1: to all this. The media embraced it because they did
- 33:11Speaker 1: not see themselves in nineteen sixty eight, even though they
- 33:14Speaker 1: were made up of liberals, mostly, they did not see
- 33:17Speaker 1: themselves as the campaign managers for the Democratic Party. They
- 33:22Speaker 1: did not see everything through the prism of Okay, is
- 33:25Speaker 1: this going to be good or bad for the Democrats
- 33:28Speaker 1: in their efforts to de beat Donald Trump and the Republicans.
- 33:32Speaker 1: But that's how they're going to view whatever happens when
- 33:34Speaker 1: it comes to protests or demonstrations or potential riots surrounding
- 33:39Speaker 1: this Democratic Convention. They know that's not good. So they're
- 33:43Speaker 1: going to do everything they can to diminish, to mute,
- 33:46Speaker 1: to ignore, and they're not going to do anything to
- 33:48Speaker 1: pour gasoline on that fire. So I am very skeptical
- 33:53Speaker 1: that that is going to become nearly as big a
- 33:55Speaker 1: deal as a lot of Republicans are hoping that it
- 33:58Speaker 1: will during this Democratic Convention. In a related issue, I've
- 34:03Speaker 1: got to talk about what happened with regard to Senator
- 34:06Speaker 1: John Fetterman from Pennsylvania and his communications director. Now, this
- 34:12Speaker 1: is interesting on a couple of different levels. It's also
- 34:14Speaker 1: just frankly hilarious. But you know, Fetterman has been by
- 34:18Speaker 1: far one of the strongest pro Israel voices in the
- 34:23Speaker 1: Democratic Party since the war broke out, and to a
- 34:27Speaker 1: lot of conservatives, Fetterman has been basically turned into to
- 34:33Speaker 1: a borderline conservative, certainly on the issue of Israel. And
- 34:38Speaker 1: you know, Fetterman did an interview related to this on
- 34:43Speaker 1: the on the eve of the Democratic Convention, and then
- 34:46Speaker 1: something absolutely extraordinary happened. Fetterman communication director, a woman by
- 34:52Speaker 1: the name of Kerrie Adams, actually told the reporter, told
- 34:58Speaker 1: the reporter with whom Fetterman had just done an interview
- 35:04Speaker 1: that she does not agree with Fetterman on Israel. Now,
- 35:11Speaker 1: for those that don't understand the political process, aren't familiar
- 35:14Speaker 1: with this type of situation, I mean, this is this
- 35:16Speaker 1: is as verboten as it gets. This is this is
- 35:21Speaker 1: like showing up to work without your pants on it.
- 35:23Speaker 1: I mean, this is unprecedented. Then an active communication director
- 35:29Speaker 1: would proactively contradict their boss to a member of the
- 35:36Speaker 1: news media. And the reasons why this happened I find
- 35:40Speaker 1: to be very telling. I think I have to do
- 35:43Speaker 1: a lot with the differences in the generations and specifically
- 35:47Speaker 1: just how totally incompetent and lacking in any institutional memory
- 35:53Speaker 1: generation Z is when it comes to politics and media
- 35:57Speaker 1: and just frankly, the normal way of doing things. But
- 36:01Speaker 1: here's the story. Quote, I don't agree with him unquote
- 36:06Speaker 1: about Israel and Gaza. Carrie Adams, Fetterman's communication director, pulled
- 36:11Speaker 1: me in a phone call after my interview with the
- 36:14Speaker 1: senator ended. Quote. This is again from Fetnerman's communication director.
- 36:20Speaker 1: I have a sense that his international views are a
- 36:24Speaker 1: lot less nuanced than my generation, because when he was
- 36:31Speaker 1: growing up it was might makes right. And for my
- 36:37Speaker 1: generation and younger, who of course are the ones protesting this,
- 36:43Speaker 1: they have a much more nuanced view of the region.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Adams added, by the way, it's import important to point
- 36:52Speaker 1: out Fetterman is I think fifty five years old. He's
- 36:55Speaker 1: actually younger than Kamala Harris's case, you know, an elder
- 37:02Speaker 1: statesman here or you know, should be mummified. This was
- 37:08Speaker 1: the reporter then added after that quote, I've been a
- 37:11Speaker 1: reporter since the summer of nineteen ninety eight, when I
- 37:16Speaker 1: covered Bill Clinton's trip to Martha's Vineyard for the Vineyard Gazette.
- 37:22Speaker 1: This was the first time I'd ever encountered anyone on
- 37:28Speaker 1: Capitol Hill or anywhere else on the record, off the record,
- 37:33Speaker 1: on background whatever criticizing quote the principle meaning their boss.
- 37:41Speaker 1: I mean, this is astonishing. And as if this taping,
- 37:45Speaker 1: you know, Carrie Adams is apparently still employed by Veterman's office.
- 37:50Speaker 1: I will not be surprised if she's not by the
- 37:53Speaker 1: time you hear this or by the time we do
- 37:55Speaker 1: the next episode of the podcast, although you know that'll
- 37:58Speaker 1: be interesting. What is Fetterman do in this situation? I
- 38:02Speaker 1: mean this carry Adams has only been employed with him
- 38:06Speaker 1: for a few months. I mean, imagine the audacity. I
- 38:10Speaker 1: think that's really the most There's two parts of this
- 38:12Speaker 1: story that are important. One that's how strong the anti
- 38:17Speaker 1: Israel belief system is within democratic circles. That even John
- 38:26Speaker 1: Fetterman's communication director could feel so strongly about this as
- 38:32Speaker 1: to publicly disagree with him about Israel and Gaza. That
- 38:38Speaker 1: doesn't happen in a vacuum. That does not happen unless
- 38:41Speaker 1: this is real. By the way, kind of makes me
- 38:44Speaker 1: wonder whether I'm right about the level of protests and
- 38:48Speaker 1: demonstrations at the convention, because again, this is unless it's
- 38:53Speaker 1: a complete fluke, how does this get to this level.
- 38:57Speaker 1: There's got to be a very very strong anti Israel
- 39:01Speaker 1: belief within the Democratic Party for this to ever happen. Now.
- 39:06Speaker 1: The only caveat to that is we're living in a
- 39:08Speaker 1: brand new world when it comes to Generation Z. And
- 39:11Speaker 1: that's the second part of the story that I think
- 39:13Speaker 1: is significant, maybe it is the most significant part of
- 39:16Speaker 1: the story, because we've been hearing all sorts of horror
- 39:19Speaker 1: stories about how Gen Generation Z just doesn't get it,
- 39:23Speaker 1: that they are completely out of the loop, they're completely clueless,
- 39:27Speaker 1: they're completely self absorbed, that they have no concept of
- 39:32Speaker 1: the way things are supposed to work. And this is
- 39:35Speaker 1: the you know, the participation trophy generation. This is a
- 39:39Speaker 1: generation that's been brought up on social media. They completely
- 39:43Speaker 1: I truly do believe in this. I realized, I'm fifty
- 39:46Speaker 1: seven years old, and you know, I'm an old man
- 39:49Speaker 1: yelling at clouds. I get that. But I truly do
- 39:53Speaker 1: believe that Generation Z is fundamentally different than any other
- 39:56Speaker 1: generation in American history because they've been brought up deletely differently.
- 40:01Speaker 1: And this is potentially seemingly an example of what happens
- 40:07Speaker 1: when it comes to Generation Z. That this person has
- 40:11Speaker 1: the audacity to contradict their boss to a reporter and
- 40:16Speaker 1: seemingly you know, it's hard to tell from the print,
- 40:19Speaker 1: but seemingly didn't even understand what they were doing, the
- 40:22Speaker 1: significance of what they were doing, or how inappropriate what
- 40:26Speaker 1: they were doing was. And so I found that to
- 40:30Speaker 1: be an amazing story and really very telling about one
- 40:35Speaker 1: generation Z and two just how prevalent the anti Israel
- 40:39Speaker 1: sentiment is within the very highest orders of the Democratic Party.
- 40:46Speaker 1: There are other elements of what's happening at the Democratic
- 40:49Speaker 1: Convention that if the news media was doing their job,
- 40:52Speaker 1: would be highlighted and would maybe potentially have an impact
- 40:57Speaker 1: on moderate voters who would be a fan what's been
- 41:01Speaker 1: going on. Two of these stories that of course will
- 41:04Speaker 1: be muted by the mainstream news media acting as the
- 41:07Speaker 1: Democratic Party's campaign managers are as follows. One deals with
- 41:12Speaker 1: the issue of diversity or inclusivity or my mind, segregation
- 41:18Speaker 1: and reverse racism. Here is the schedule for the first
- 41:23Speaker 1: day of the convention when it comes to caucus meetings.
- 41:28Speaker 1: This is amazing and this has gotten some play online,
- 41:32Speaker 1: but it's almost exclusively within right wing circles. This shows
- 41:37Speaker 1: you what the Democratic Party is really all about. From
- 41:40Speaker 1: nine thirty to eleven thirty am, they have the black
- 41:43Speaker 1: Caucus meeting, and simultaneously to that there's the Hispanic Caucus meeting,
- 41:51Speaker 1: and then there's the AAPI Caucus meeting, and also the
- 41:56Speaker 1: Native American Caucus meeting and the Ethnic Council meeting. This
- 42:03Speaker 1: is the DNA of the Democratic Party. It is literally
- 42:07Speaker 1: in their DNA. Now DEI diversity, Equity and inclusion, Diversity
- 42:15Speaker 1: over everything. Segregation is good. You notice, of course there
- 42:19Speaker 1: was no white people caucus there. That would never happen,
- 42:23Speaker 1: especially at a Democratic convention. I mean, this is inherently discriminatory,
- 42:28Speaker 1: but it's an indication of who the Democratic Party really is,
- 42:32Speaker 1: and that, to me is maybe the only hope for
- 42:35Speaker 1: Trump to regain a footing here is if Democrats so
- 42:40Speaker 1: overplay their hand with this convention that it actually turns
- 42:43Speaker 1: people off. But of course people have to be exposed
- 42:47Speaker 1: to the truth, they have to understand what's actually happening,
- 42:50Speaker 1: and the news media is not going to focus on
- 42:53Speaker 1: things that they know are not going to be positive
- 42:56Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. So you're not going to hear
- 42:58Speaker 1: about just how seated and Frank Brace's elements of this
- 43:02Speaker 1: Democratic Convention aren't. You're also probably not going to hear
- 43:05Speaker 1: very much about the free abortions and vasectomies that are
- 43:10Speaker 1: being given out, and not making this up. Folks, this
- 43:13Speaker 1: sounds like a fake story, but it's real, the free
- 43:15Speaker 1: abortions and vasectomies that are being given out to people
- 43:20Speaker 1: attending the Democratic Convention, and that the response has been
- 43:25Speaker 1: so dramatic that there's a waiting list, a waiting list
- 43:30Speaker 1: for free abortions and vasectomies at the Democratic Convention. Now,
- 43:35Speaker 1: of course, a lot of conservatives online have understandably been commenting, well,
- 43:40Speaker 1: maybe we just let them do what they want to
- 43:41Speaker 1: do here, because in the long run that's not going
- 43:44Speaker 1: to bode very well for the Democratic Party and their demographics.
- 43:48Speaker 1: That's something I've talked about previously. It might be the
- 43:50Speaker 1: one hope for America is that it does appear as
- 43:54Speaker 1: if conservatives reproduce much more proficiently than Democrats do. This
- 44:00Speaker 1: is another indication of that. But we may not have
- 44:03Speaker 1: enough time to get there. We may not have enough
- 44:05Speaker 1: time for that to kick in, partially because Kamala Harris
- 44:10Speaker 1: at the end of last week basically admitted acknowledged, although
- 44:15Speaker 1: not in words but in proposals, that she's effectively a communist.
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