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Encore: GBF- Rams Super Bowl or Bust (w/Golic) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: The Great Mike Golic Senior is with us. Yesterday was
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  Speaker 1: an interesting day, Mike. Everyone's getting ready for the NBA Finals,
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  Speaker 1: and the NFL said, not so fast, my friends, we
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  Speaker 1: got some news for you.
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  Speaker 2: And man, did they have news. An unbelievable day yesterday, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: In the NFL, we all expected the AJ Brown trade
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  Speaker 1: to happen yesterday. No one, and I mean no one
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  Speaker 1: expected Miles Garrett to go from the Browns to the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: What a day.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, kudos to the Rams, yes, and I
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  Speaker 3: got I would say the Browns too for keeping this
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  Speaker 3: thing under wraps, because very rarely do you not get
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  Speaker 3: a blowing in the wind some sort of.
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  Speaker 2: You know word.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because we all knew the AJ Brown thing was happening.
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  Speaker 3: It just had to be post tuned first, right, which
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  Speaker 3: just happened to be right about NBA Finals, So you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: nothing you could do about that with a post June first, uh,
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  Speaker 3: when it has to be postjuting first. But the Miles Garrett, man,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, after all that went down, you gotta kind
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  Speaker 3: of feel for Jared Verse, right Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know he's gonna get a new contract there.
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  Speaker 3: So well, I mean yeah, he's gonna get a new contract.
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  Speaker 3: He was gonna get paid if he stayed a Ram too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he's good. Yes, he's gonna make money. And
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  Speaker 3: now he's going on a last place team.
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  Speaker 1: To your point, he woke up as an La Ram
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  Speaker 1: with a chance to win the Super Bowl and he
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  Speaker 1: ended the day as a Cleveland brand with no chance
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  Speaker 1: of winning anything.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and he would have got money at both places.
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  Speaker 3: So that's uh, that's up. But that's the business. Now.
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  Speaker 3: You know that the the trades in the NFL have
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  Speaker 3: really upped. The trade deadline has uped in value ever
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  Speaker 3: since kind of Christian McCaffrey a few years ago. You
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  Speaker 3: get players that make a difference in the back half
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  Speaker 3: of a season. Uh So, trades now definitely are are
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  Speaker 3: worth more than they used to be in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Mike, can the Rams contain you like this? I mean
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  Speaker 4: for years we're been told by thirty one. I felt
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  Speaker 4: like it was thirty two teams you build through the draft,
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  Speaker 4: that's how you build, and the Rams are just like, no,
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  Speaker 4: we're not going to do that, and yet they continue
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  Speaker 4: to have success.
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  Speaker 2: Can he keep going? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean some of the defensive players were all through
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  Speaker 3: the draft. They had a young defense and that young
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  Speaker 3: d line and backer room was draft picks, so they
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  Speaker 3: kind of have built somewhat draft. But I think they
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  Speaker 3: also understand their window of opportunity is open right now.
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  Speaker 3: They give Stafford the extension, you know, he says, don't
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  Speaker 3: worry about the Ty Simpson thing. You're our guy, And
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  Speaker 3: they know their window is open for at least a
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  Speaker 3: couple of more years. So you have to do whatever
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  Speaker 3: you can to kind of stack that. But they actually
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  Speaker 3: have done pretty well defensively in the draft, but they
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  Speaker 3: they understand you only get so many shots, yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: know at the crown. So their position, well, think about
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  Speaker 3: last year the the freaking two point play yep that
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  Speaker 3: they lost on with the fumble and the ends and
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  Speaker 3: oh that Charbonnage just happens to pick up yes, not
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  Speaker 3: even really thinking about it. I mean, what a flukey.
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  Speaker 2: Play, right that was?
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  Speaker 1: Without Miles Garrett, right, they would play away from the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Now they have perhaps the greatest defensive end,
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  Speaker 1: or one of the greatest defensive ends in the in
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  Speaker 1: NFL history. Might the reason I like this so much
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  Speaker 1: and the reason I like how the Rams operate so much,
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  Speaker 1: is they got their quarterback to replace Stafford when he
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  Speaker 1: decides to leave, which is ty Simpson. They got him
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  Speaker 1: this year in the draft, and they traded away and
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  Speaker 1: they kept a valuable commodity their draft pick next year
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  Speaker 1: in a draft that's loaded with quarterbacks, and they sent
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  Speaker 1: that to Cleveland and they got themselves one of the
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  Speaker 1: best defensive ends in the history of the NFL. That
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  Speaker 1: is how you operate a football team. It's why I'm
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  Speaker 1: jealous of the La Rams.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sold that ty Simpson's a quarterback of
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  Speaker 3: the future, but they are to me. But they yes, right,
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  Speaker 3: they are, and that's all that matters. They don't care
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  Speaker 3: what I think. Yes, I'll wait, yes, we'll we'll we'll
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  Speaker 3: wait and see on that. But they listen, much like
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  Speaker 3: we think. The two best teams in the NBA are
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  Speaker 3: the Spurs in Oklahoma City. The two best teams in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL maybe the Rams and the Seahawks, Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yes, you're right. Go ahead, Mikey.
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  Speaker 4: Don't forget that. There's just a twelve win team that
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  Speaker 4: was dealing with injuries just sitting there too in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 4: But even with all that said, about how good that
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  Speaker 4: one division is poor Arizona. Is it super Bowl or
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  Speaker 4: bust for this team?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Like is this for the m Yeah, they just
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  Speaker 2: went all in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Miles Garrett, he was what thirty one, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: thirty thirty one years old. Yeah, they are all in
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  Speaker 3: it for the next couple of years. They have basically
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  Speaker 3: pushed all their chips to the middle and said that
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  Speaker 3: this is our opportunity in the next couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: We need to take advantage of it. Stafford's on his back, nine,
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  Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. I mean, I know we set the record
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  Speaker 3: last year. I doubt he'll slow down much. He's still
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  Speaker 3: going to be a great player, but he's over thirty.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you're definitely pushing the envelope.
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  Speaker 2: Mike.
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  Speaker 1: If you're Aaron Donald, who's in you peak physical condition,
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  Speaker 1: and you see Miles Garrett coming and you know that
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to.
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  Speaker 2: Play the entire season.
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  Speaker 1: All you have to do is tell McVeigh you want
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  Speaker 1: to come back, or tell less need you want to
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  Speaker 1: come back.
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  Speaker 2: They'll figure out when you're coming back.
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  Speaker 1: But do you think this is enough to pry Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Donald out of retirement and back onto a football field, Because,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett side by
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  Speaker 1: side would be the greatest thing I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this, if he was going to make
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  Speaker 3: a comeback, this is the time, right, There will be
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  Speaker 3: no other time but this time to make a comeback.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know Aaron Donald personally. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if he wants to come back and try and regain
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  Speaker 3: what he had. And if he didn't, well, people say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he's he tried to do this and he's over the
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  Speaker 3: hill and it won't affect his his walking into the
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame by any stretch of the imagination. Just
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  Speaker 3: push it personally for him going out on top, you know,
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  Speaker 3: would he want to come back and maybe jeopardize that
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  Speaker 3: for the possibility of winning you know, a Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: Another super Bowl? So if it was going to happen,
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  Speaker 3: it will happen very very soon.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'd be surprised if he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Right, how many chances do you have to just walk
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  Speaker 1: into a situation play with Miles Garrett and have a
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  Speaker 1: chance of winning a Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean watching his workout videos crazy. Now, he's not
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  Speaker 3: that far removed from playing, so you'll understand him keeping
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  Speaker 3: his strength. But obviously he'd have to get into football
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  Speaker 3: shape and all that. Now I don't know what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he is doing drills. I have no idea. I
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  Speaker 3: just see the frickin lifting ungodly weights and still looking
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  Speaker 3: like the all pro guy that he is. Like I said,
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  Speaker 3: if it is going to happen, it's going to happen
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 4: Year.
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  Speaker 3: If it doesn't happen this year, it's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: How long after you were done in the NFL, did
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  Speaker 1: you keep yourself in game condition, in NFL condition or
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  Speaker 1: were you out of condition by the time you were done?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean I was. I was how the norm retires.
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  Speaker 3: I was retired, teams stopped calling. That's normally how a
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  Speaker 3: career ends, where you don't get the choice to walk away.
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  Speaker 3: That was after the ninety three season in Miami. I
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  Speaker 3: kept working out. I ran for the Eagles, I ran
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  Speaker 3: for the forty nine ers during the ninety four season,
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  Speaker 3: still trying to get hooked up with a job, and
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  Speaker 3: it didn't happen. I didn't get hooked up with anybody,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought, Okay, I'm time to veer into the
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  Speaker 3: next the next career.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Worked out that whole next football season looking for opportunities
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  Speaker 3: to sign with teams.
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  Speaker 2: Mikey A. I would say that veering to the next
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  Speaker 2: career worked out well for Golic. What do you think,
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you the same question I just asked
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  Speaker 1: Dominique Foxworth earlier today. Which team is closer to winning
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl today based on what they did yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: The Rams are the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I think the Rams are. But the Rams have
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  Speaker 3: a tougher road, yeah, because they have to get get
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  Speaker 3: out of their own division. Could be a wild card, yes,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean you have to play Seattle, the possibility
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  Speaker 3: of three times right, just to make it the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Where now the AFC, where we were like, oh, Buffalo, Baltimore,
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  Speaker 3: Kansas City, Denver, We're like wow, and you're like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's question marks on those teams. They're still really good teams.
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  Speaker 2: No, but for the first time, there are question marks
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  Speaker 2: with all four of those teams.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, But the road, So the roads
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  Speaker 3: the Rams have to go through would be tougher again
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  Speaker 3: three times against Seattle, But I think the Rams are
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  Speaker 3: a better team than New England.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Mike, for those of us who really don't know
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  Speaker 4: what we're watching, can you talk about sort of the
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  Speaker 4: trickle down of adding a Miles Garrett to a defensive
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  Speaker 4: line and what that does to the entirety of the
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  Speaker 4: defense or even on the offensive side.
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  Speaker 3: Well, while while Jared Verse was a two time Pro
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  Speaker 3: Bowl or an excellent player and just twenty five years old,
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  Speaker 3: you're game planning the Los Angeles Ram defense. Now you're
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  Speaker 3: game planning the Los Angeles Rams defense, and you're also
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  Speaker 3: game planning Miles Garrett. You have to know where Miles
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  Speaker 3: Garrett is every single play, and if you block them
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  Speaker 3: with one, the ball better come out quick. And sometimes
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  Speaker 3: the defense will try and put their best pass rusher
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  Speaker 3: to get one on one, like we would do with
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  Speaker 3: Reggie in the forty six, where me and another d
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  Speaker 3: lineman would cover the guards and he would be over
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  Speaker 3: the center. They would try and you know, just have
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  Speaker 3: to single block them with the center, and that was
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  Speaker 3: usually a big advantage to Reggie. It's it's the fact
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  Speaker 3: that they have to game plan for Miles Garrett. And
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  Speaker 3: what that does is that frees up other players, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we had Clyde Simmons, Jerome Brown, Reggie White.
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  Speaker 3: It couldn't double all of them. So if they chose
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  Speaker 3: to double one, that left another one with a one
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  Speaker 3: on one block that you know that you had to win.
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  Speaker 3: So what will open up issue situations for other players?
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  Speaker 3: Just like Micah Parsons going to Green Bay. All of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, Rashan Gary is getting sacks while Mike is
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  Speaker 3: on the field, mikeh gets hurt, goes off the field
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  Speaker 3: Whereean Gary wasn't getting any more sacks. So it can
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  Speaker 3: be it can help your teammate, but the main thing
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  Speaker 3: is you've got a game plan that guy. You have
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  Speaker 3: to have a game plan every single week for Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of when the Heat got
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Lebron and had Chris Bosh as well along with Dwayne Wade,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember I can't remember the player's name, but
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  Speaker 1: he was talking after a game saying, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: tell me they tell us to double Lebron, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you want to leave Dwayne open? You want to leave
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  Speaker 1: Bush open. It's like they make other players better. They're
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  Speaker 1: not just great themselves. He's gonna make the whole team better.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he absolutely is. Give He'll give his defensive teammates
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  Speaker 3: opportunity and then we'll see what those teammates do with
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown is such an interesting story to me, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: because it appears that everyone loved AJ Brown inside of
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  Speaker 1: that organization, and they loved them in Tennessee as well.
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  Speaker 2: Rabel loved them. And now he's headed to New England.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a.
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  Speaker 1: Weird case where the guy is talented, he's young. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: seems to like AJ Brown at the quarterback of the
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't. I don't know if it was a
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  Speaker 3: personal thing or a professional thing. How the offense was run,
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  Speaker 3: how Jalen Hurts played quarterback didn't fit a J. Brown
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  Speaker 3: getting a lot of well a J. Brown would still
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  Speaker 3: get targets, but it just it just didn't quite mesh
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  Speaker 3: to which what AJ was used to. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: think about it now, I mean the difference that they have.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, remember they picked up Romeo Dobbs as well.
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  Speaker 3: They have Dobbs, they have a J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Uh so it's it's definitely more weapons for Drake May.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think it was more on a professional
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  Speaker 3: just to AJ's point, to AJ thought, I'm just not
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  Speaker 3: mixing well in this offense, right.
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  Speaker 1: My game doesn't work here? Yeah? Yeah, but he liked
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I mean who doesn't and he won one
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  Speaker 1: there so in New England. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting
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  Speaker 1: to see, uh kind of that plays out? What does
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  Speaker 1: that do to the Philadelphia Eagles in your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Mind?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean the Eagles they have they have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of bodies, right, I mean, and Devonte Smith is
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  Speaker 3: gonna be is gonna be the guy obviously you want
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  Speaker 3: to and they pick up They get Mackay Lemon, who
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  Speaker 3: I really like out of USC a lot quite honestly.
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  Speaker 3: They have to get the running game going again, right,
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  Speaker 3: which means that offensive line needs to be healthy and
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  Speaker 3: they need to get Saquon Barkley going because Jalen Hurts again,
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  Speaker 3: is not a forty five hundred yard a year passer,
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  Speaker 3: a thirty five touchdown passer. That's just not what he is.
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  Speaker 3: The most touchdowns he has was last year was twenty
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  Speaker 3: five eighteen twenty three, twenty two, the most he's passed
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  Speaker 3: for is thirty eight hundred yards. So they're not going
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  Speaker 3: to do it by massive quarterback numbers. So they have
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  Speaker 3: to get that running game going again, which which means
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line, and it's something you can't control. They
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  Speaker 3: need to say obviously healthy, but but I think that's
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  Speaker 3: that's really more the key than anything else for the
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia offense. Offense is to get that running game going again.
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  Speaker 4: Mike, would you be shocked if neither the Rams nor
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots. I will throw Philly in there.
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  Speaker 2: If none of them mad. It'd be great if none
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  Speaker 2: of them made it, though, it would be I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, who why couldn't Seattle go back to that?
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  Speaker 2: Correct?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're an execrac you mentioned San Francisco.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if they they stay out of out of injuries.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure who else, Chicago, Detroit maybe though
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  Speaker 3: possibly Detroit. But really it's it's in that It's in
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  Speaker 3: that NFC West and in the a f C. We
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  Speaker 3: talked about, you know, uh, the downfall, not the downfall,
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  Speaker 3: the the the minuses for some of the teams. But
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  Speaker 3: they're still good teams. You still have Josh Allen Lamar Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: You hope he's healthy, right, you know bo Nicks gets healthy. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And what Denver did obviously mahomes gearing up for week
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  Speaker 3: one to come back, and they made some some shifts
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  Speaker 3: to the UH, to the defense as well. So let's
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  Speaker 3: see if they can regain. No, while those teams will
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  Speaker 3: be listed as one of the favorites on any book
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  Speaker 3: you look at, if they don't make it, it would
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  Speaker 3: not It wouldn't surprise me, especially in the in the
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  Speaker 3: UH nationally because of Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, It's interesting, who would you compare Miles Garrett too?
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  Speaker 1: Like to me, he's the closest thing I've seen.
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  Speaker 2: To Reggie White. But you played with Reggie White, So
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  Speaker 2: what's the comparatives.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the difference there is. Reggie was six six three
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  Speaker 3: fifteen Jesus, I mean Miles is six six six five
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  Speaker 3: sixty six two seventy five. You know, Reggie lined up
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  Speaker 3: over the center. Reggie lined up over over anybody. Reggie
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  Speaker 3: had the speed he ran. I watched him run of
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  Speaker 3: four to six. He was the strongest weightlifter in the
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: room as well, and he had great leverage. I mean
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: he literally had everything. Miles Garrett Miles. Garrett is probably
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: a better athlete overall. And I mean, and I don't
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: know his weight room strength, but whatever it is, it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: fine whether he has it or not, because he plays
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: with great quickness and leverage. It's tough to compare because
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: there's a forty pound difference in them in those two
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: guys and Miles. Now, Miles occasionally will stand up over
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: the center and do kind of that basketball thing, but
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: for the most part he comes off the edge, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: really for the most part Reggie did as well. That
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: was that was a little more true defensive ends. Because
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Clyde was close to three hundred and Reggie was over
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: three hundred. They were close from more to seven techniques.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Mikey A, You and I had the same reaction. It
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: was the forty time for Reggie White, right, of all
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the things he listed, it was the forty time.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What was the forty time again for six? Well, I
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: mean he.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: And he and Jerome ran raced one time, and Jerome
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: ran barefoot right, and Jerome got out of the gate
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: quicker than Reggie. He got off the ball quicker than.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Reggie's so he had a head start kind of right.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: So because because he was quick. Yes, I mean, Jerome
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: was so known for taking all the ball and just
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: coming off the ball. Yes, but then Reggie passed him,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: you know during the length of the forties. Yeah, for
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: six Yeah, I mean just rude, Yes, I mean just
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: just he had everything.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I love when he starts talking about Jerome Brown, Mike Hea,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: because it's almost like there is excitement in his voice
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and disappointment because he wanted to see how that thing
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: was going to play out, right, You wanted to see
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: it so badly.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have no doubt again, right, I was.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I was a better friend to him then. You know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: there's teammates, there's acquaintances during your time, but you have friends.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: And we had that Philly team before free agency, so
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of movements, so we really a
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: lot of us became pretty close, and Jerome and I
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: were very close. But to see what he could do
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: on the football field, yeah, because he didn't lift much, right, what, Yes, No,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: his quickness and leverage. I remember announcers used to say
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: he was one of the strongest players in the league,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: and he wasn't anywhere near one of the strongest players
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: in the league. But when you play with great leverage.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: It you look like, Wow, that guy's got to be
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: strong in the weight room. His leverage because of his
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: quickness was was almost unmatched.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: There's some alternate universe Stu gots where where Jerome Brown
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: and Reggie Wright are like, Yeah, but did you ever
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: see Golic run? You ever see how fast he was
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: out of the gate? Did you ever see that guy
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: in the weight room?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I don't know where that universe is. Like,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: that's a that's a far far away imaginary universe.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: What is the fastest forty you ran?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Mike A, I think I ran a four to seven.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Jesus, what are we talking about here?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: He never gives himself enough credit. Ever.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: This is when I was like two fifty to sixty.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: These guys two fifty two sixty, they're running four fours
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: and four threes now now now, but not then. Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I was a really good athlete for a split second
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: in my career, and then I put my hand in
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: the dirt and that was that was.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I am told that GOLDI junior at Notre Dame ran
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a five three eight forty about that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah he did. He was a little over three hundred pounds,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: ran a forty that it was a five three. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I every time I watched the combine, I cringe at
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: an offensive lineman running a forty. It is the biggest
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: waste of time and potential injury there is there. They
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: should never go past twenty yards. There's no need to
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: have a time on them in the forty. Yeah, they're
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: ten and twenty are are way more important.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said, But what Mike
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: ran the five three eight? Did you let him know
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: that you ran a four to seven? I mean, did
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you give him a hard time?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Listen, Yes, when you have fun and compare careers, there
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: was never a comparison in speed that was never even debated.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: You know, because because basically through my time at Notre
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Dame I was a linebacker. I was supposed to be,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you know, a pretty good athlete.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't go down on the line until I got
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to the NFL and gained some weight, right, So, yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the speed was always He was stronger than me in
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: the weight room, and I was faster than him on
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Mike, in a weird way. We'll get you out here
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: in just a second.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you buy into stuff like this
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I do just having that chip on your shoulder at
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is already accomplished so much. Do you think
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: there's a part of Jalen that wants to show AJ Brown, hey,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you made the wrong decision.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You should have stayed here.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, because because the AJ Brown situation and
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: in Philadelphia was basically centered around Jalen Hurts. Yes, right, yes,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: so yes, I think Jalen would like to win it
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: now that he's gone win it and just know in
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: his mind, yeah, okay, didn't need you and we still
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: want a title. Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I hope the receiver that takes over for a J
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Brown has two thousand yards receiving this year.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be wild. All going to depend on their
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: running game.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Right, And on the flip side, AJ is going to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: be equally as motivated. He will oh yes, yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: With a question, and he thinks I got a passing
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: quarterback now, so we'll see.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Time will tell, all right, Michael, busy day in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: NFL yesterday, quickly on the NBA Finals. Here you have
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the Knicks winning, and how many games I'm putting words
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: in your mouth?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I got, I got, I got San Antonio in six
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: games things. Two things that that I'm going to watch
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: for against Cleveland Jalen Brunson in New York, they would
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: run picks and switches and Jalen would end up on
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: on James Harden, and that would be a gimmey. There's
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: nobody on San Antonio that's James Harden. Defensively, they are
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: all way better defensive players, way better defensive players. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: so Jalen, now is a great player, is not going
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: to have the ease of dribbling by a James Harden
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: esque player. And I'll be interested to see how who
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Wemby covers, because if he tries to cover Karl Anthony Towns,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Kat's just gonna go up at the top of the
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: key and play around the three point line and pull
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Wemby out of the paint. Wemby is such a deterrent
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: in the paint that I believe that's where he is
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: going to be, to be the threat that he's going
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: to be. We know he's a threat on the offensive end,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: but on the defensive end, I'm sure the Knicks will
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: try and pull him out of the paint.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll do it with Towns. He's one of the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: few guys that could do it. And you're right about brunts,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and it's Dylan Harper, it's the Aaron Fox. This is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: not James Harden And when he gets past those guys,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: they'll be met by Wenby in the rim.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. It's amazing guys that go in the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: paint on Wenby, how they detour out of there, how.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: We impact every single shot and thought that they have
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm convinced Spurs in six.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Damn it. Sorry, I'm teezing. God bless football, play, God
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: bless me