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Why Trump is STILL the Greatest Threat to the New World Order — Todd Callender Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 1:31
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So by now, you probably have this sense that there's this group of people that are trying to drive humanity into some sort of slavement or technocracy. Maybe you think that, maybe you don't. If you watch this show, you probably have some idea of that.
• 1:51
  Well, what's interesting though is that if you look at how this is all playing out, there's all these indicators that that plan, that masterful plan to drive us all into this complete control grid of a global communist system with one world government, that that plan is actually falling apart. And one of the biggest things that's stopping their plan from succeeding is the fact that people around the world are waking up and we're not just waking up, we're acting, we're building. And if you take a hundred thousand foot view of this entire situation, what you can see is that as they're pushing this dark agenda and trying to drive us into that future that they want, that more and more people are saying, you know what, no, we're going to build the future that we want, we're going build a future that's centered on upright principles and tradition and the divine culture and God. And it's an amazing transformation. So joining us today to have a discussion about this is one of my favorite guests and a good friend and that's Todd Callender.
• 2:55
  Someone that obviously, you know, he's an attorney, he's on the front lines fighting, he has a lot of information, he really understands the plans of these guys really well, but he's also someone that has this beautiful spiritual side of things and he's really able to dive into these deep, more heady spiritual conversations about where we're at. So I think that you're really going to enjoy this interview with Todd Callender. Todd, it's just so wonderful to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for being here.
• 3:24
  Todd Callender: It's my favorite place to be. I'm really, I'm chuffed to be here. Thanks.
• 3:29
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And actually, mean, little bit of an exciting announcement we've been talking and you're going to become a regular guest. I think we're gonna be aiming for every three weeks or so having you come back on the show and, you know, because you've got your hands in so many really interesting and important projects and initiatives that I and every time that you do come on, the audience just loves the conversations that come out of us. And so, you know, we've been talking and so we're gonna you're gonna be more of a regular on Man in America, which is Yeah.
• 4:00
  Todd Callender: I'm really honored by the offer, Seth. It's cool. It'll be a pleasure to do it.
• 4:05
  Seth Holehouse: And so it's interesting because, you know, coming into today's show, as I was thinking, you know, what can we cover? I've just I've been I've had this shift in my thinking lately. And, you know, look over the past couple of years, obviously, I've covered the dark sides of what's happening. I've gotten heavily into the vaccine, you know, the food shortages, the, you know, the the push towards a technocracy, the CCP, all these things that are difficult and frightening, but they're real. And I think they shouldn't be ignored.
• 4:39
  But I'm also there's something that is changing in me that it's really wonderful because I'm looking towards the future with so much optimism. And I'm seeing that, like, it's like if I look back at my own life, it was actually some of the times that were the most difficult times ever for me. Like when I lost my brother to cancer over like a year and a half of like medical malpractice, and it was just living at the hospital. Like it was the worst thing I ever went through. But in hindsight, it forged me.
• 5:12
  And like, though it was difficult, like I would say, I'm so grateful for having gone through that opportunity. So anyway, I just we as we were talking before the show, this just seemed like the perfect theme for today's show.
• 5:27
  Todd Callender: It's a good one. I see it the same way, by the way, that we're in this giant school that we all call life, and we're here to learn lessons and, and, and we're doomed to repeat those lessons until we do learn them. So it's really, it's a lot of wisdom on your part to recognize those horrible traumas in our lives, what they really are.
• 5:45
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And it's funny because you know, something came to mind and I wrote down my little notebook as we were talking before, you know, we started recording is that I really feel like what's happening is that we're seeing the collapse of the cabal. We're, you know, we're witnessing it. Powers that have been in control for a very long Exactly. It feels like as we are learning about them, it's very evil and frightening and it's like, Oh my gosh, what chance do we have?
• 6:13
  But the fact that everyone's becoming aware of them and that we're rejecting them, to me that's such a strong indicator that they are actually in their final days. And so it feels like this, the world is very chaotic. But I think that what's chaotic about it is that it's this old evil system that's collapsing as they're frantically trying to hold on. But what's amazing is that amidst that, the people, especially the people that I think have a strong faith in God are being led to build the future of humanity. Like, and it's really inspiring.
• 6:45
  So I really want to what are what are your thoughts on that?
• 6:49
  Todd Callender: I think you've got it exactly right. It dawned on me some time ago, I really couldn't put my finger on it, but it was in the middle of this fight that I came to understand why it is that those very same powers invest universally in entertainment. Why is it the Smithsonian, for example, the, you know, the history museum goes around and takes people's dug up 10 foot or 12 foot tall corpses. You know, these are literally giants right out of the Bible. But the Smithsonian has made a habit of BS, made a habit of going and taking away and hiding them in the basement.
• 7:30
  It's all look over here, here's the entertainment, it's sparkly, it's interesting, keep your focus on that, while they're over here doing all of their evil deeds and have been for thousands of years. And just what you said, now we've got this light, I don't know how else to describe it. You get these God whispers in your ear, or a spotlight goes on this thing over here, you say, you know what? I've never noticed that before. What is that?
• 7:52
  And it's happening universally. It's not just in you and me in America. This is happening globally, And it is so cool. I have, you know, I live in The Caribbean and I had a lady here, just literally this morning, trying to get my help with the Republic of Texas. That's, that's a long ways from here, but it was the attraction to alternate sovereigns.
• 8:16
  That it's a new system. Everybody's looking for it, and we're building it because we're throwing off the bonds. You know, we're not going to be slaves anymore. It's so cool.
• 8:25
  Seth Holehouse: It is, and the process is interesting to look at interesting to look at because I think that, you know, let's just go and rewind say twenty years ago, I think twenty years ago, a lot of the people that are listening and watching this interview and that are, you know, going to the reawaken America tour, that are doing everything they can to wake up their friends and family. Twenty years ago, they probably did not see the evilness of big pharma, the evilness of the education system of our government, of our elections, of the entire, not just big pharma, the entire medical industrial complex, the Hollywood, the entertainment industry. Like, would say, you know, again, twenty, thirty years ago, most people did not know the the real, like the true fruits of all the structures that have been built around And when you don't know about it, you can't reject it. Right? You can't, you can't fight against it.
• 9:20
  But so we've gone through this process of
• 9:22
  Todd Callender: There's more.
• 9:22
  Seth Holehouse: Of learning that and seeing, wow, like, I'm like, that vaccine's really bad, so I'm gonna get I'm gonna get off all of my heart meds also because those can't be Right? Or
• 9:32
  Todd Callender: That's right.
• 9:33
  Seth Holehouse: You know, I don't trust Monsanto anymore. You know what I mean? Whatever that process looks like. So
• 9:38
  Todd Callender: And who owns the Monsanto? Everybody's going up the chain. Seth, you just said something really important and sorry, sometimes I interrupt because
• 9:47
  Seth Holehouse: I'm That's why I enjoy it. It
• 9:50
  Todd Callender: it it's, we didn't want to know twenty years ago. We didn't want to know. It was always there, but we just couldn't accept it. We couldn't come to grips with it. It's so evil that can't possibly be whether that was Epstein, you know, abusing little kids.
• 10:08
  There there has always been child sex trafficking. It's been around for millennia, we didn't want to know. It because why it affected our worldview, we go to work, we make enough money to feed our families, wouldn't it be great to have a new car someday, and we drive towards that goal without ever seeing the whole rest of the apparatus over here, these evil people what it is they're doing. And you know, General somebody I do a lot of work with, and and he was asking to put some money together for an event. I said, General, if you want access to billionaires, the problem is you're on the wrong side.
• 10:42
  All of the billionaires, I shouldn't say all, all the ones I'm aware of, had a hand in that evil part. That's where they were a part of the system. It's why they have that money. And now humanity is going, oh, wait, that's that's what happened? Oh, you have to cheat and steal and rob and fool and lie to get there.
• 11:05
  And they did, and the rest of us didn't want to know. Now we do.
• 11:10
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, I've got a quick message for you. Right now, the world is very, very actively going through a process that the experts are calling de dollarization. And look, I've been talking about this for well over a year now, but maybe you're now starting to see it in the mainstream because they're now talking about it because it's really happening. What does this mean? Well, there's a few factors, but there's two main factors.
• 11:32
  One is that the BRICS nations, okay, this is Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and a whole coalition, they are actively getting rid of the US dollar. They're stopping their trade in the US dollar, and this is significant because the dollar's losing its status as the global reserve currency and as the petrodollar. This is what gives our dollar its value. But the other thing is that we have an enemy that's within our own government, Biden and his administration, they are actively working to destroy the dollar. And you can see it in their actions that they're not trying to save the dollar, they're actually trying to destroy it because they want to roll out their central bank digital currency.
• 12:11
  So you have these two forces coming in both the same time working to destroy the dollar because what happens when that dollar gets destroyed? Well, literally your life savings, if they're sitting in the dollar, whether it's in a savings account or a bank account or the stock market or an IRA or a four zero one k, those savings, that money could literally be wiped out in a matter of days, weeks, even a couple of months. We're already seeing it with inflation, which is gonna be much much worse. If you're seeing the writing on the wall and you're thinking, what can I do to protect myself? Well, there's a few recommendations that I always have.
• 12:47
  One is just to make sure you've got your food, if you have land, you know, ammunition, whatever it takes, real tangible assets. But fundamentally, the thing I recommend most is precious metals, gold and silver. Look, precious metals have survived the collapse of currencies, the rise and fall of civilization, and also a big factor in this is that the BRICS nations, their new currency they're introducing to replace the dollar, a lot of experts are saying it will be backed by commodities like precious metals, and so you can see there's gonna be a stabilization and I believe a dramatic increase in the value of precious metals. Not to mention, look at the back the past six months, we're seeing, you know, 30% plus increase in the prices of silver and gold. So if you would go back and say you put a hundred grand into silver six months ago, it could be worth well over a hundred and 25, a hundred and 30 thousand dollars because the dollar is losing its value.
• 13:38
  So folks, if you want someone that you can trust for buying your precious metals or gold and silver, I would highly recommend Doctor. Kirk Elliott. So Doctor. Kirk Elliott is a good friend of mine, but he's a strong Christian patriot. He understands what's happening in the world.
• 13:53
  He's got two PhDs, one in theology, one in economics. So it's the perfect blend of understanding realistically money in the end times. So if you want to set up a free consultation with Kirk's team, head on over to goldwithseth.com. So again, that's goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, it's goldwithseth.com.
• 14:19
  You go to the website, you scroll down, there's a simple form that you fill out right there. You put your email, name, contact information, and that sets you up for a free wealth consultation where you can talk to either Kirk or one of his experts to really understand what your options are. Or you can just call (720) 605-3900 to take action today. And what's interesting is that you mentioned that, know, that that billionaires club is that, you know, I've studied China a lot, specifically the Chinese Communist Party and back in, so in 1999, Jiang Zemin, who was the supreme ruler, I mean, he was the guy behind the Tiananmen Square Massacre, complete evil. So in '99, he started the persecution of Falun Gong.
• 15:03
  And there is somewhere between like 70 and a hundred million of these, you know, these practitioners in China. And so what he did is he set it up so that the power structure within the CCP was built upon who would take, basically, who had the most blood on their hands. Because what it does is it enables them to control people because they know the evil deeds. Yes. The people that rose to the top were the people that were running the massive organ harvesting hospitals, the people that were like murdering them.
• 15:35
  I mean, it became this almost like the Olympic Games of who can murder and torture the most of these people, right? And that's how they built the entire power structure of the CCP. So all the high level officials primarily, they got there like Bo Xilai, who was one of the he, you know, he actually fell, you know, because he was, they ended up arresting him. He was one of the top officials working with under Jiang Zemin. So he was in the guy that was in the same region that was do you remember the bodies exhibits that they used to have where they had the plastinated bodies that were dead people, but they were they kind of preserved them and you could see under the skin and they had them doing sports.
• 16:15
  Like it was this traveling exhibit that was here in America at least. They found out that the plastination factories were coming out from the regions that Bo Xilai was overseeing. And if you look at those people in the exhibits, they're all Chinese. And so you have to ask yourself, well, how they have all these young healthy Chinese people that they're actually preserving with a healthy body? They, what they found out that a lot of these people were these Falun Gong and Bo Xilai was just shipping them off and selling them off.
• 16:47
  And anyway, it's just interesting though, you know, of going back to your point though about the the billionaires. And it's like the the the power structures, I think this goes back to biblical times, like the power structure in our world for so long was I think ruled by Satan. And the more evil you were, the more you could climb up and advance. And that's why you have people like Epstein who's as rich as he was, all these people with so much money and influence, but that structure is now collapsing, which is interesting.
• 17:17
  Todd Callender: That's right. This is this is and always has been Lucifer's domain, and I think what you're saying, what we're arriving at, is those days are over. The the humanity is arising. Humanity is becoming aware the scales are being lifted, and we're living through it, and a part of it. And frankly, Seth, it's in no small part due to you and what you and people like you do.
• 17:43
  It's people understanding the truth and wanting to understand the truth. So the congratulations goes to you all. It's the podcasters who stuck it out. You've been doing this for a long time, and it just took that long for people to finally catch on, and and now you're looking at this flourishing business, and a huge audience because people are interested. Just I'm chuffed to know that that's the case and seeing it happen.
• 18:08
  Seth Holehouse: Well, mean, it's it's having good guests like you to interview that make an interview worth sharing.
• 18:14
  Todd Callender: I'm just happy to be here. I'm just happy to be here. I promise you.
• 18:18
  Seth Holehouse: And so, you know, I know that you're at the center of a lot of different things. Know that, you know, whether it's technology, social media, you know, lawsuits, other different initiatives. So, you know, from your perspective, I, know, whenever I talk to you, I leave feeling positive, right? So, from your perspective and what you're seeing, what are some of these examples that indicate that there are good people that are just actually saying, look, everything is evil that was that has been built. So, we're going to build our own.
• 18:51
  And as these things fall, we're going to take the and take this parallel economy and turn it into not the parallel economy, but turn it into the system that takes over the rule of the world instead of the evil system.
• 19:03
  Todd Callender: Yeah, you actually jumped ahead there. We're in the middle of building a parallel economy, but you're right. It will take over because it must. They're mutually exclusive. And, and you're absolutely right.
• 19:13
  It's, it's like watching, the desert come alive with a spring rain shower. You know, there's this desolate area, one rainstorm, the next thing you know, there's flowers popping up everywhere. And that's actually what we're seeing now. So, in the freedom movement, because I think that's really what this is, it's the liberty movement. People are recognizing what the bonds are, whether that's their birth certificate being collateralized, or really just participating in the federal government tax system, for example, or whatever the case is.
• 19:43
  People have finally gone, Oh! So, they're looking for an alternate way to accomplish some of the same things. So, the reality is societies need courts. Societies need law enforcement, societies need rules to live by. And as a lawyer, I'm actually a sociologist, if you think about it.
• 20:04
  What do lawyers do? We define human behavior, we legislate human behavior, we regulate human behavior, and we adjudicate human behavior. It's all about what people do and how it is we interact in society. So people are coming to recognize that they need a platform, and that's what's popping up, whether it's private medical associations where folks have had enough with the traditional medical system, they're not going to go to the hospital and get killed. You see doctors and patients coming together saying, Look, let's adopt a system inside of an Indian nation, for example, who are sovereign to the exclusion of other sovereigns.
• 20:40
  And let's agree that that Indian nation is a great place for you to be licensed as a doctor, and for me to draw comfort that your license actually means something, that there is a third party looking in to make sure you're actually qualified to do this job. Oh, and by the way, let's throw in clean blood. We need a blood bank where we're not forced to take vaccinated people's blood. Oh, and don't forget, you know, we need clean drugs. We need drugs that don't have hydrogel, nanobots, lipid nanoparticles, and such, and that's happening, and it's happening organically, and I'm very much involved in it because people have asked me from a legal perspective, how does this work?
• 21:15
  For many years now, we've had three insurance companies amongst others on an Indian nation. We've tested it internationally, and it does work. There's UN conventions on the subject matter, that indigenous rights are actually more supreme than others, if you can imagine that, but so say the UN convention. So there's there's a recognition, and that's the key to this stuff. The sovereigns exist, and I mean this fundamentally, sovereigns only exist because people recognize them as being authoritative.
• 21:46
  They agree, let's be bound by these courts. And I'll give you an example. In New York, you've got Sharia cops. You have Sharia courts, and if somebody gets pulled over and they're a Muslim, they have the option and they use it and say, no, I'm not going to your court, I'm going to go to the Sharia court, and they call Sharia cops. Those people are opting out of The US system.
• 22:07
  They might be physically in The US, but they're not going with the program. They're not going in the federal system or even the state system. The same thing is happening here globally. It's not just The United States, but there has to be a common denominator, and that is a recognized sovereign. So you have things like the Republic of Texas and Indian nations that are saying we're now open to not just Indians being a part of our nation.
• 22:30
  It's absolutely amazing, and that's happening, like I said, globally. Canada right now is it's on fire that way. People are looking for a new home and they're building it. They're building a new home and it's really fun to be a part of it.
• 22:43
  Seth Holehouse: And what's interesting with this is that if you look at the, the, the plans of, you know, the, the elite side, it's hard to have a different word because that's the word everyone understands, right?
• 22:52
  Todd Callender: It's fine. The deep state,
• 22:54
  Seth Holehouse: you know, whatever.
• 22:54
  Todd Callender: They named themselves.
• 22:55
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, so it's like if you look at their plans, you can see that the plans, it's really easy, especially now to see, it's like, okay, you know, COVID becomes, you know, this giant fear campaign, you know, fear rushes us into accepting the vaccine and then, you know, then they can start bringing these new variants out to then kind of introduce new surveillance and, you know, then bring out the vaccine passports and what you can see is that like they're still rolling ahead with their plan as if it was being adopted. You know I mean? But then what like what I'm seeing and all these indicators and, you know, whether it's the reaction to Bud Light, right? You're going super woke.
• 23:32
  Todd Callender: Yes.
• 23:32
  Seth Holehouse: Or to me, all these indicators show me that actually, the majority of people, I guess I can say here in America, right, I've been there kind of, you know, kind of pulse, know, finger on the pulse, that the majority of people just want to be left alone. They just want to raise their families. They just want to worship, you know, worship God. They don't want to participate in And so, from the perspective of these, these kind of elites, as they're watching this, I mean, I have to be thinking that they're that they're thinking there's that like some aspect is just not working, right? Like starting with Trump getting in in 2016, they must be freaking out because like, the the majority of people are saying, look, we don't want your system.
• 24:17
  And what do you what do you think?
• 24:19
  Todd Callender: Yeah. Well, I I think that you're right in many respects, but I think it's only a few of them that are actually freaking out, because they're so arrogant. They're so egotistical. They're so sociopathic that they can't pick up on these clues. They're literally struggling to understand what went wrong with Bud Light because it's their rules.
• 24:38
  Right? We live in their world. This is Lucifer's domain and, and people are waking up saying, no, I'm not gonna participate. It's it's absolutely beautiful. I love what you said.
• 24:47
  It's a great example of exactly what you say. This is people opting out. They're opting out of the system, and they're choosing a new system, and maybe it's not perfectly formed, But opting out is a great first step. I love it. It's fantastic.
• 25:02
  Seth Holehouse: And so, I know that you've also been involved, especially with Ann Vandersteel, movement of people basically saying, Look, I'm opting out of, like, relinquishing my citizenship and I'm becoming it's a state national, right? That's kind of the correct
• 25:17
  Todd Callender: Well, State national is a term that was derived from one particular person, that is giving up the federal system. You're effectively saying that I am a national of America, not The United States, or I'm a national of this particular state, and collectively or colloquially, they kind of call it state national. There are different names for the same thing.
• 25:42
  Seth Holehouse: So, can you just tell us what you're seeing in that? Because that's a talk about a big movement, you know, from what I've
• 25:51
  Todd Callender: heard from
• 25:52
  Seth Holehouse: you that it's approaching what 25, almost 10% of the population. I mean, is that? So give us an update on that.
• 25:59
  Todd Callender: Yeah, that's a big deal. And the cool part about it is kind of what I made reference to a minute ago, and that is that universally people are looking into the law, the history of the law that we find ourselves in today, and saying, Oh, that's where things went wrong. This little piece over here is what led to here. So they're going back and saying, Okay, this went wrong over here. Here's how and why.
• 26:22
  How do we remedy that? And believe it or not, there's some really good answers to that. And it seems that everybody's agreeing, no matter how they want to achieve their end result, what papers they want to file, to say we're opting out of this lawfully, and that's the key part is that this is all being done lawfully. They arrive at one conclusion, and that is, when you're born, your birth certificate is collateralized. Government uses your future earnings and taxation on those earnings as the basis to sell securities.
• 26:52
  There are bonds, and that is what drives the budget. So you have international powers who literally print money out of thin air, and and they give them now, they don't give it, they lend it to sovereigns. This is a global thing. It's a debt model economy. They loan it to sovereigns.
• 27:10
  What is the collateral for that debt? And if you're running the city and county of Sethville, and you need to borrow money, what is your collateral? How are you going to pay it back? And the answer in Sethville is, well, I've got all these citizens who live here, and we're going to tax those to repay this loan. So in reality, that's what's driving the debt model economy globally.
• 27:29
  So you find the same phenomenon in every country. If you're born as a citizen and whatever, that country is using you as collateral for debt. So people are saying, no, you never asked me. I'm not your chattel property. You don't get to use me as your property.
• 27:44
  And believe it or not, there are forms, that you can put to the government and say, look, I am no longer your collateral. I'm opting out of your system, therefore you cannot use me to repay your debt. I don't agree with it. And there are portions of the tax code that are actually pretty clear that that make that distinction between nationals and citizens and taxation thereon, including nonresident aliens. You might be shocked to know that dating back to 1913 or so, the The US code recognizes that the foreign people, my wife is an example, she's not an American, she has no American status at all.
• 28:23
  And yet, if she makes investments in the states, they're taxed in a very certain way, and that's what people are saying. Look, if you want to tax me like a foreign person, you go ahead and do that, but I'm not part of your income tax. I'm not going to be your slave. And that's what everybody's arriving at, at the same time. They're opting out, I'm not going to support it, and by the way, I'm my own sovereign.
• 28:45
  You know, I might have been born in Texas, but I am my own sovereign, and that's a beautiful thing.
• 28:50
  Seth Holehouse: And am I correct that I heard you say that we're now reaching about 25,000,000 people
• 28:57
  Todd Callender: that have done Yeah, so I hear. And I'm not surprised. Understand, and that's in The US alone, but I think you're now seeing this. It's a global event. So you'd like you said, it's, it's not quite yet 10% of the population in The United States, but I suspect that that's growing, Seth, because you've got five, ten million immigrants coming across the border.
• 29:18
  They're not going anywhere. Our job is to make them into Americans, not into US citizens. Right? So they might be physically in The United States, and you might as well include them because they're not born here, they're not yet collateralized. So it may actually be more than that that fall into that category of residents that are not part of the system, and it's growing.
• 29:40
  Seth Holehouse: Well, it's probably we'll probably say that it's more than 10% of the tax paying base in America.
• 29:46
  Todd Callender: Yeah, I think that's about right. Yeah, that's fair. Completely fair.
• 29:49
  Seth Holehouse: Which is interesting. And so, but have you seen I mean, even though that obviously this is being done according to the book, according to the laws. You know, you look at what's happening with President Trump as an example, it's obvious that the DOJ, the FBI, the IRS, they don't play by the rules. And so, are you seeing any indication
• 30:10
  Todd Callender: Oh, but they do. Really? They do. They they just yeah, sure. They make the rules up to benefit themselves to the point with with mister Trump.
• 30:19
  It's a it's a demonization. It's not even that. It's changing of the of the law to to serve their purpose, their evil tool purpose. But they do have a basis in the law. It goes back to, I think, the War Powers Act, believe it or not, what it is they're trying to to trudge out to go against Trump, and it won't work, by the way.
• 30:40
  It's a bastardization of the law. It won't work, if you have rational people and a rational judge. In DC, all bets are off. But but they do this is the part I I struggle with, Seth, is that they have created this law that we find ourselves governed by today that is so far from the original intent. That's why people are saying this is not me.
• 31:05
  I don't live here. When I took the bar exam all the way back in the mid nineties, there were 270,000 volumes of active law. That's books of law. That's legislating every facet of human behavior to a point where it's it's an impossibility to do it. You can't live in The States Of America without committing a number of felonies every day.
• 31:26
  People are not going to put up with that data, and that's where this is going. It's the bridge too far, it's overdone, but there is, I can absolutely assure you, a law on everything a human could or would ever do, and they do use that. They're obscure pieces of law, but they use them. Why? Because they wrote it down.
• 31:45
  There's a process by which we create laws, and what's happened is we've lost control of that process. The owners of this world, the ones that own the money supply, that make money out of thin air, if you own the money supply, what could you buy? And they bought everybody. They bought the DAs, they bought the state legislatures, the federal legislature, they are all bought and paid for, and they abused their position and made any law that was useful to the people at the top. And now people are saying that's not God's law, it's not fair, and I'm not going be a part of it.
• 32:16
  They've gone too far, and it's now demolishing itself, it's falling in on itself.
• 32:21
  Seth Holehouse: And that's an interesting point because it's sometimes been in the past, I've looked at say our judicial system, and I've thought to myself, it's completely corrupted, know, that it's, there's like, there's basically there's no hope with anything to do with that. But I also, you know, I kind of step back and I look at, and I think there's a lot of these things that it's like there are still principles even even from the print, you know, from the perspective of Lucifer himself. There are still principles in this world that they must abide by. And I think that, you know, was interviewing Astras Kesselberger recently, who's a, you know, obviously a brilliant woman. I know that you, you know, you're very familiar with her.
• 33:00
  Todd Callender: Yeah, sure.
• 33:00
  Seth Holehouse: And, you know, she was talking about how like, basically that they still need us to give consent. Yes. Right? And that's why that's why this war isn't just as easy as them bringing in an army around the world and forcing us into camps. They need us to consent.
• 33:17
  That's really how the, that's how God built this world, right? For every reason, like that's, like, we have a choice, you know, even back to the original choice. Eve had a choice to take the apple or not. True. Right?
• 33:30
  And that's the principle here. And so kind of going forward, it's this reminder to me that they still have laws and that even though they're completely evil, they're still bound by the laws of heaven. And they know that.
• 33:43
  Todd Callender: They are.
• 33:43
  Seth Holehouse: Right? Like they know that. And so, looking at the legal system, it's interesting because I've also kind of come to understand that they're able to take advantage of so much of legal process and weaponize it against us.
• 33:57
  Todd Callender: Yep.
• 33:57
  Seth Holehouse: Because we don't exert our own will against them. We don't use their own laws against them, right? What do you think?
• 34:07
  Todd Callender: That's exactly right. But I want to go back to something you said about the judiciary, and I would largely agree with you. Again, there's an abusive process here. Right? A judge looks at the law, the legislation, the case law, and arrives at a decision.
• 34:21
  There are people too. So, the problem is sometimes they're they're burdened. And in the last three years, the burden is really simply this. Our constitution was suspended. It it was, the declaration of a national emergency, and there were others before it, and that suspended the power of the article three courts as it did suspend the power of the legislature.
• 34:44
  Not that it allowed for was ultra abuse by the executive. Well, who became the executive? So now you have it by executive fiat, you know, the guy sitting there that can't string a sentence together, is now the ruler, the emperor, and that's really what made this change. And I wanted to say, you know, in my case, that still exists, is Robert v. Austin.
• 35:05
  Every other case like it, you know, was to stop the military mandate has been thrown out of court, out of the federal district courts and federal appellate courts. Why? Because the courts are saying, we don't have jurisdiction, it's not justiciable, because these issues have been remedied or dealt with. Not so in our case. You know, my allegation, which is well founded in existing law, is that use of these shots created intellectual property rights in the synthetic product, meaning the vaxxed people became, in part or in whole, somebody else's property, and that violates God's laws.
• 35:41
  Right? In 1865, we outlawed slavery. You don't get to own people. Well, there's at least one judge that appeared in front of three judges back in November and made the argument and said, Look, this violates our thirteenth amendment. You don't get to own people even if they are a synthetic person.
• 35:57
  And, that seems to have resonated with at least one of those judges, because this case is still alive, unlike all others that were going on similar issues. And it goes to your point, which is that if it's unjust, it's unfair, it's against God's laws, then we're throwing off those bonds, and that's what you're seeing here, is it's a bridge too far, it's no different. Then you see communist nations in the past, the Soviet Union is a good example. It became so corrupt and so corruptible that people wouldn't tolerate it. You know, the blue jean revolution, we're in the exact same situation.
• 36:32
  So, it's a breath of fresh air to see. I'm sorry, it took so many dead to get there, so many lives to get there, but such is the cost.
• 36:42
  Seth Holehouse: Well, think the other thing that America really has, obviously, the constitution, but the second amendment. And that's something that, you know, go back to Obama, you know, they've been trying to disarm this country for a really,
• 36:55
  Todd Callender: really long
• 36:56
  Seth Holehouse: time. Yet, again, it's this it's like this principle. Right? It's going back to what every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
• 37:04
  Todd Callender: Yes. And
• 37:05
  Seth Holehouse: and that, to me, that is a that's a divine principle. That's a principle that applies to you and I just as much as it applies to Klaus Schwab or George Soros. They're not outside of that law. And so we look at as an example, the push to try to get rid of guns, right? And then you have the push for this tyranny Lot more.
• 37:24
  Exactly. I was talking to a gun store owner recently and they said, Yeah, Barack Obama was the best gun salesman we've ever had in the country. Right? And you look now it's like I remember talking, who was it that I was talking to or listening to? I forget who it was, but they said, look, they said the reason why they will probably never be able to disarm a population is that even those processes take time.
• 37:46
  And let's just say that, you know, today, you know, Biden signs in an executive order, you know, to say, you know, ban all, you know, all guns that are, you know, beyond, say, like a bold action rifle, right? Like Yes. That it doesn't become instant. Right? That would take months and months to And in that time period, you'd probably my my own estimate, my own research is I think there's probably somewhere between 508 guns in Right?
• 38:13
  Like that's an insane amount.
• 38:14
  Todd Callender: I think that's right.
• 38:15
  Seth Holehouse: But like, in that first two months since that order would be signed before being implemented, you'd probably sell 400 more million guns. Like, it would just it would be incredible. Well,
• 38:27
  Todd Callender: goes back to your your individual sovereignty question, doesn't it? At the end of the day, what what does it boil down to? What is that choice? Are you going to stand your ground, or are you not going to? And this is where I draw a lot of comfort, Seth.
• 38:43
  It goes hand in hand with what it is you're talking about, and that is the changes international law, whereby all of the member nations of the WHO have effectively agreed that should there be one of these public health emergencies like COVID or MARBERT or whatever, that everybody's going to give over their armies control to Tedros Adnan, who will then utilize the military apparatus globally to force people to take those shots, because if you can't get their consent, right, and half the people on this planet didn't give their consent to COVID shots, then you're going to have to force them. It's an either or equation, just as you described. And the good news here is militaries are not going with the program. None of them are. You know, they all got bit too.
• 39:30
  They were the first ones globally forced to take these shots, and they know. So that enforcement is a is a non starter. Well, who does have the guns, and who is going to stand their ground are the ones that didn't take the shots, who aren't sick, and who see that paradigm. So I think there there is no way for them to effectuate this through another pandemic. It's not gonna happen.
• 39:53
  Seth Holehouse: So that that's the interesting thing because I think that with, you know, with COVID, it really was, you know, fool me once, shame on me, or shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. So I think for a lot of people, even folks that have been following this, they got caught off guard. And it took some time for
• 40:08
  Todd Callender: a lot
• 40:09
  Seth Holehouse: of people to understand, wait, this is a massive psychological They want to it. Exactly. Go ahead. Sorry. I think though that we saw a mass awakening because of COVID.
• 40:21
  But what I see is that, know, I know you've talked a lot about this, I'm on some email chains with you about this, that they're, they are prepping the next thing. They do have the next round, you know, most likely Marburg, they've got a lot of things in place for But I think that what that's gonna do is that all the people, let's just say that after, at the end of the COVID, as of right now, let's just say seventy percent have now rejected the idea that a pandemic will give the government reason to control our Okay, so those 70% are going to be digging their heels in even more. And those 30%, I have a feeling that probably half of them will also say, you know what, I'm not doing this again. And before you know it, they're gonna have 85 or 90% of the entire world refusing to go along with And that I think that that spells their end. What do you think?
• 41:08
  Todd Callender: It does. Well, and there's a reason for that too, which is that they now have an option. Right? That's where these private medical associations in other countries or Indian nations, whatever the case may be, people have an option. I'm not going to that hospital.
• 41:25
  You know, that's part of the old system. That's the one that's trying to kill me. I'll go over to this one instead. If I need medical treatment, I'm going go to a doctor who's on the right side of this. So, the answer to your question is absolutely, positively.
• 41:36
  Yes. It's not gonna work. Yes. They are preparing for another one, but they've they've blown their opportunity. Number one, COVID wasn't deadly enough as as they needed it to be.
• 41:46
  And number two, as as grateful as I am, half the world said, no, we're not taking your stupid shots. You didn't trust them. So, yes, competition is what will drive our survival. And I take some heart in the fact that if you have a one world government, you can't have you can't have competition, you can't have options. Well, what is Russia doing now?
• 42:12
  Russia is not going with the program. They they are not capitulating. They're offering people to come there. Here's your four hectares in the middle of Siberia, but it's your land if you want to come here. Here's our system.
• 42:23
  Here's our currency. They're creating competition. Competition for citizens. Competition for people. So I'm with you.
• 42:30
  This thing is not gonna work, and humanity's future looks a whole lot brighter than it did a couple years ago.
• 42:37
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It it really does. It really does. And so what are some other, you know, from your perspective, what are some other indicators that you're seeing that the this really complex, you know, decades or centuries old plan to enslave us all is actually falling apart?
• 42:54
  Todd Callender: The narrative. The narrative is changing. And I think it's really to your point. They were trying to go down this road and continue saying the same thing, whether that's woke or trying to keep people on the same track where the vaccines are good. Here's our new vaccine passport coming out.
• 43:13
  Here's our new central bank digital currency. All of a sudden, they're being very quiet about this. They can't really walk back what has already happened. What they're doing instead is they're bearing it. So those ideas that were absolutely critical to get them to this one world government, no private property rights.
• 43:32
  Elimination of private property rights is one of them. What do you see now? States are talking about eliminating the property tax because you know what? If you, if you, if you, if you pay property tax on your property, you don't own it. Now you find people saying, you bet you're renting it, because if you don't pay that tax, they're going take your property.
• 43:50
  And so now we see, sovereigns, states in particular, saying, no, property tax has gone. Oh, and by the way, if you want to use gold and silver as a medium of exchange, you go ahead and do that. So it's common, Seth.
• 44:05
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And what's interesting is that when you, like, when you take a step back and you look at this the whole picture, right? I think that what you realize is that so much of their control, see, you talk about the narrative, and so much of their ability to controls us come from it comes from controlling the airways. Yes. Right?
• 44:25
  It comes from controlling the mass media, the social media, but the beautiful thing is that they, because they built this technology, which I think a lot of the purpose of the technology was to control us, if you trace back the origins of Facebook and Google, it all goes back to the CIA and you know, military and national complex, But with that though, even the internet, but with that though, we've been able to use it against them. And so I think that that's a big part of it. They did not anticipate You know, people will be like, Hey, I'm gonna start my own podcast. Like, you know, Sean over at SGT who's reached millions and millions and millions of people over the past decade
• 45:04
  Todd Callender: or so,
• 45:05
  Seth Holehouse: who said, You know what, like, I'm just gonna start my own thing and expose them. So, like, think that, you know, the talk about the Great Awakening, it really is, it's real because it's people that are breaking out of that narrative. I think especially with Trump winning in 2016, I think that completely derailed their plans. He exposed the face of his And it's just then you got Elon buying Twitter, which I'm not gonna say I trust Elon completely. But what I'm seeing so far is he's allowing people to talk.
• 45:35
  It's like, what are they gonna do in the 2024? When all of a sudden on Twitter, Elon says, yeah, you know what? Talk about election fraud. Go ahead. I mean, how how are they gonna control the narrative?
• 45:46
  I think that they're I think they're really, really screwed.
• 45:49
  Todd Callender: They are screwed. And I think at the end of the day, the winning recipe is this: it's the collective consciousness. Going back to what you said a minute ago about controlling the airways, wasn't just that, it was controlling what we think about and how, even in some respects, we think about things. I'll give you a good example. You've a lot of people, even outside The United States, people here watch the Super Bowl, not for the football game, they watch it for the halftime show, you know, and the commercials.
• 46:22
  And now people are going, that's a bunch of filth. I'm not going to watch that ever again. So that expenditure on entertainment was also driving their process, whether that's Hollywood and movies, and now it's also depraved, whether it's woke and the transgender thing, and people are rejecting it wholesale. And I think it spreads to what you just said a few minutes ago, that if they're lying to me about my health, if they're lying to me about vaccines, then they must be also lying to me about the medications they've got me on. If they're lying to me and trying to convince me that satism is good at the halftime show, then what else is wrong with this whole sporting event?
• 47:00
  So, yeah. And Trump, undoubtedly, his mere existence alone, in that position, so messed up their timeline that it's irretrievably broken. That doesn't mean they're not gonna try and finish the job. Their their mission was to kill 7,000,000,000 of us, and that's not an easy thing to do. It really requires the consent.
• 47:22
  Right? People would have to commit suicide by what? Give me those shots. Give me the vaccine. It's not gonna work anymore.
• 47:27
  So they're frustrated. And, I just wanna say one thing that that concerns me that I I've not come to a solution with, and that is, you know, people are pinning their hopes on on mister Trump or another savior coming in 2024 to take back the White House. If they if the other side, if the bad guys have had four more years to make sure that they've perfected their science of stealing votes. What makes us think the votes count at all in the first place? And my sense is that that's kind of what Trump is doing.
• 48:00
  He's out there still doing rallies, to to hit at that collective consciousness so that when that day comes, it's an either or option. Either we are going to vote and use this system and take it back, or we are going to abandon that system. I think this fulcrum is coming, and it probably does intersect with that date, November of twenty twenty four, where if the cheating is so obvious, if this is a rigged game and it's that obvious, then people simply will abandon the system wholesale.
• 48:33
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, I do. I think that you mentioned the fulcrum. I think that we're reaching that point, that convergence where it's like almost like all of history comes to that one point that's where everything is like, okay, what goes forward? Also I
• 48:47
  Todd Callender: Whole enchilada.
• 48:48
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, is. But I also, I want to also echo your thoughts about, you know, Trump and just that perspective of, you know, this one man who is human, you know, that he's going to be the person that saves his country. Because I think that whenever we do that, or whenever we put timelines on things, and we say, well, in four years, this will be this will be over or in two years. I mean, you look at communist China, right, where and I believe that within within communist China that the CCP is on the verge of collapsing. Collapsing.
• 49:24
  Like, personally, I think the CCP is going to be collapsing within the next couple of years. I think that they're that weakened, and their population has rejected them that much, right? And that's because, know, like media companies like the Epoch Times and all kinds of freedom fighters like my good friend Alan over at Sound of Hope, who went and built into sat not satellites, but he built antennas and stuff to broadcast truthful information into China across the border. Right? So he built radio towers all over so that he could broadcast radio stations that would actually expose the crimes of the CCP China, right?
• 50:01
  So, but they've been doing it for decades. And that's, that's the thing is I think that when people, it's a trap for us, I think, to think that one man will come in and save us or to kind of frame it and be like, Well, if this isn't finished in five years, then I'm done. Like, I really think that, look, it's taken the evil decades, if not centuries, to get us to where we are right now in this endgame. And it, you know, it might take us another five, ten, fifteen, twenty years to get ourselves out of it. And for me, it's like, I'm fine with that.
• 50:36
  Right? I'm fine with fighting that battle and this taking
• 50:39
  Todd Callender: whatever We're still alive.
• 50:40
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Because if I'm alive and I'm fighting and I'm building something and I have a vision for, if not for my future, but for my children's future and their children, it's like, then then it's like, whatever comes our way, it's like, will not stop.
• 50:55
  Todd Callender: Well, thank God for that. And God bless you for that. And I I think that's exactly the point, Seth. That, look, we we are mortal. We are all going to die, And that's fine.
• 51:05
  The question becomes, how do you want to die? How do you want to live? And I'm with you. And, I I agree with you. I I don't really care how long it takes for that very reason, because I will not live, you know, as somebody else's slate.
• 51:19
  I'm not gonna live in that system, and it's really frankly one reason why I left thirty years ago. But I would say this, I I think that people need a touch point. They need a catalytic event. And so I don't also believe, you know, Trump is the guy that's gonna come in on his white horse to save everything, because I think he's got his own issues. You said it yourself.
• 51:41
  He's just a man. And he even admits that. Right? He's just a man. And we're all frail.
• 51:47
  We have those problems, whether that's ego or otherwise, that plague us. But the point is, there will be an event. There is going to be a bridge too far, and whether or not that's the election itself is almost immaterial. You know, how is it the Soviet Union fell apart with the blue jean revolution? How did Ukraine fall apart, you know, in 02/2014 when Obama, gave them their color revolution?
• 52:13
  There are catalytic events. And, my sense is that that catalytic event will either be, this Marburg plan that they've got, or it will be the elections themselves. Either way, the momentum is such that I do not think this change is stoppable. I think it's going to happen or we're all gonna die trying, but you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
• 52:36
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I I I agree. And there's something you said earlier that I wanted to touch upon when you're talking about the Super Bowl. And when people are saying, you know, gosh, like, well, I didn't sign up for this. Like, I don't want this evil.
• 52:48
  And I think that what that that also goes upon what we're talking about earlier with that, you know, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, right? And I think that, you know, that the the mechanism that they've used to really kind of take us into control is to take us as far away from possible as God. And not just far away from God, but also far away from how God wanted man to live. Like, really believe that, that God created a way for us to live with a nuclear family, with communities, with our connection with our land, like that these are the ways I think that God designed earth with the animals to feed us not to be eating some lab grown meat, And so they've tried to take us
• 53:27
  Todd Callender: Bugs.
• 53:28
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly, further and further away from that. And then they've added in this demonic stuff into the mix. And as they've pushed it harder and harder, I think you're seeing that equal and opposite reaction where I'm seeing a massive amount of people that maybe were atheists five years ago, three years ago, they're saying, I got to bring God back in my life. We got to bring God back into our household. Let's move out of this big blue liberal city.
• 53:53
  Let's go move to a rural area and build a community. So I think that there's this this amazing movement, And I think it's actually, it's the majority of people that are heading towards this direction of people that are saying, I, you know what, I want to reject this modern dark agenda, and I want to return back to what it is to be human. And that, I think of all the things that are happening, that's probably one of the things that gives me the most hope for the future of humanity.
• 54:19
  Todd Callender: Well, I love that. What you said in particular about, you know, people finding their place with God, rebuilding their relationship with God, and I would add to that that part of that is having courage of your convictions for others to know it and to see it. When you say goodbye to somebody, if you mean it, you know, God bless you, or Godspeed, or whatever the case is, those indicators to others that we have that belief system, that we have faith, and that's really what it is we're acting upon. In some respect, it's blind faith. Right?
• 54:51
  You've city people moving out into the country, don't know anything about it, but they know it's the right way to go. A lot of that is just what we talk about is faith, and and it's just beautiful to see that come back. And I I love when I see people wearing who they are authentically and openly. Part of that is an intellectually honest debate. The truth is becoming popular.
• 55:15
  Isn't that a beautiful thing?
• 55:17
  Seth Holehouse: Well, what's interesting actually, I'll pull up an article here because I was gonna use for different show, it's worth mentioning here, but this is a, I saw, I just saw today actually. Ah, I saw that. These, like, as much as we might think, gosh, they've really captured our children. The same thing is happening with the youth. Right?
• 55:37
  And so this is this incredible story of this middle school that wanted to kind of force all the kids to wear rainbow flag, you know, pride stickers, everything. And the all these middle school students, tore down the pride banners, they were wearing red, white and blue and chanting USA are my pronouns. Like, it's like, if you want a hope for the future, it's like, look no further like that. I saw that and I was just smiling for probably twenty minutes after seeing that article.
• 56:12
  Todd Callender: Well, isn't that a funny comment, you know, growing up, I'm a child of the sixties, funny enough. Yeah. And I remember parents being concerned about different types of music, whether it was punk rock or whatever coming out, my kid's going to be forever scarred by this. These kids, it's just the opposite, Patriotism. Oh no, these kids are patriotic.
• 56:34
  I just love it. And what a cool observation. I love that, man.
• 56:38
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, it is. And again, it's like, you know, when you see this stuff happening with the kids, I mean, to me what that that shows me is, is two things. One is, is good parenting. Right? It shows me that there's more parents are stepping in.
• 56:51
  Also, if you look at the the massive increase in homeschooling, another indicator, but it's good But I also think what shows me, especially when I see this happening with children, is that there's something innate to us, that we have a conscience or that God speaks to us. If people are open to it, we're going to know what's right and wrong. And even a child that has been attempted, attempted to indoctrinate them, even that child I think still has something inside of them that says this isn't right. And that's what, again, gives me a lot of hope.
• 57:24
  Todd Callender: Yeah, isn't that? So, and it's a funny thing because, you know, depravity is always the easy way. It's always supposed to be consequence free. And I see that in a generation now, I guess the Z generation one, that even that model eventually hits a consequence. Whether those kids, you know, had it pretty easy, they sat in the room, they enjoyed their electronic stuff, there is a point where you hit the real world, where you actually have to eat food, where you actually have to work in order to get food.
• 57:56
  So one way or another, they're gonna have to confront these things, and I'm kinda watching that with, with my own situation, and it's fun. And you're right, there is an innate thing, and I think generally people are good, or they try to be good. It's just we get steered the wrong way every now and again with attractive alternatives that are short term fun and long term don't work out.
• 58:17
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And I think it's why they have to try so hard to give us bad to show us evil to because if they didn't do that, we'd just become we'd just be all good people. Right? That just started
• 58:29
  Todd Callender: Well, imagine that,
• 58:30
  Seth Holehouse: you know,
• 58:31
  Todd Callender: imagine that. Well, is kind of the point, you know, the what is really special to me is watching this from an international point of view, it's humanity arising. And sometimes I find inside The United States people have a hard time looking outside, looking at the borders, and people coming across, you know, they're automatically enemies, when in reality most of those are just people. And as you come to see humanity arising, it's everywhere. It's in every nation.
• 58:58
  It's in every culture. Because the evil has been so broad based that it's been, you know, selections in elections for a very long time everywhere, and now everybody's throwing off the shackles. It's just amazing to see.
• 59:14
  Seth Holehouse: They really are. And so, in closing, do you have any final thoughts kind of wind up today's show?
• 59:21
  Todd Callender: Yeah. Well, again, I go back to it because I think it is the truth. One of the things I think you yeah. You know, we my group had taken over PloutHub. We made the acquisition.
• 59:34
  So now we're driving Jeff Brains' vision forward. And the point of it, our mission is to have a place for people to exchange ideas. It's a marketplace of ideas. It's free because you arrive at the truth, And the truth, at the end of the day, leads to God. It's the same answer you were just talking about, that everybody has it inside of them.
• 59:56
  There is God inside of all of us. We we are God's children, His creation. And when you open your mind to accept the truth that we want to know it, right, rather than where we were even a couple years ago, we now want to know, that leads to our creator. And so our job is that. It's just what it is you're doing here, Seth.
• 1:00:16
  We do a whole lot more of it. We bring the ability for people to think for themselves. And I'm just I'm blessed to be here, and I really appreciate you having me.
• 1:00:26
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, absolutely. And with that, I mean, I encourage folks to go to clouthub.com, create an account, support what you're doing there. And I'll, you know, touch base with you because I want to make sure that everything I'm doing gets fully synced over to CloutHub and that we have to build the community there because it's, yeah, that's right there, that's the parallel economy. Know, you might have the doctor that says, know what, I'm gonna treat patients and do things without big pharma, we're gonna go back to natural medicine. This is the same thing.
• 1:00:57
  It's like, you know, like why, why, you know, kind of be stuck within Facebook where if you, you know, if you question Joe Biden, you get kicked off for thirty days or put into jail, right? So it's like building that alternative community.
• 1:01:09
  Todd Callender: It is. It's no censorship. I mean, it's subject to a couple of provisos. We're not doing gambling. We're not doing porn, and we're not allowing illegal things.
• 1:01:19
  Aside from that, I want those Gen Z ers that have a different perspective, that maybe they are in this trans movement. Fine. Come. Let's have a rational, intellectually honest discussion, because that's going to lead to the very truth that we talk about. We have confront issues ourselves, you know, that I'm not entirely interested in that community.
• 1:01:41
  Maybe I should learn something. Either way, it's about expressing openly with liberty, and you're absolutely right. What we're finding is that it is the basis of parallel economy. People are finding each other there, and that's our mission. I do want to apologize.
• 1:01:56
  We've spent a bunch of time, energy, and money making this thing work better, and it's a it's a constant mission. So, you know, where we fall down, just know we're not giving up, that we are going to make this as big and beautiful as we can to accommodate everybody, including 72 languages. So, people from the planet over are welcome to come there and exchange their ideas, goods, services.
• 1:02:21
  Seth Holehouse: That's fantastic. Well, Todd, it's, it's always such a fun time having you on. I really enjoy this. I'm glad that you're gonna become a regular so we can be having these conversations every couple of weeks. Yeah, it's just great.
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  So
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  Todd Callender: Yeah, same here.
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  Seth Holehouse: Thanks again for
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  Todd Callender: coming I just told you to come. I want you to come and give me the excuse to go fishing.
• 1:02:40
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, know. You're a great excuse to come down to The Bahamas. So So maybe once we're heading into the winter up here in America, it might be time to come on down there and soak my feet in some blue ocean.
• 1:02:57
  Todd Callender: Sand, salt, and sun. We got lots of it.
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  Seth Holehouse: There you go. Well, thanks, Todd.
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  Todd Callender: My pleasure, man. God bless you.
• 1:03:03
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. And sorry, one quick note too, is for all the folks that are watching or listening, if you enjoyed this interview, share it. Like that's, that's the number one way, you know, we talked about the importance of the alternative media and gain, gain these these voices and gain this truth out. That's the number one way that anybody can help with that is just to share this information because obviously, this video won't be going viral on YouTube, right? So that's a big one.
• 1:03:28
  We
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  Todd Callender: can try.
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  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, Yeah. I'll get my we'll get my account shut down. Yep.
• 1:03:35
  Todd Callender: Anyway That's right. We got you.
• 1:03:37
  Seth Holehouse: Yep. Well, Thank you.
• 1:03:40
  Todd Callender: It's my pleasure, Seth.
• 1:03:41
  Seth Holehouse: Alright. Bye bye. Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question.
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  If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year? This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands.
• 1:04:21
  They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food. So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations, literally it's how it will work.
• 1:04:52
  The other thing though is this high quality storable food. This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food.
• 1:05:20
  Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar. They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etcetera. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food.
• 1:05:42
  And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year. Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed, those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go put up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late.
• 1:06:19
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