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The Late Debate | 23 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, wait to play well.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the late debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: How many genders are there?
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump knows, but it seems like none of our
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  Speaker 3: Australian politicians have any idea. It's all just so complicated.
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  Speaker 3: We'll show you a bit of that a little later. Plus,
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  Speaker 3: when we look at the papers, Anthony Alberanezi will pay
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  Speaker 3: people to do construction apprenticeships in a bid to salvage
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  Speaker 3: his promise to build more homes. And Donald Trump urges
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  Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin to settle for peace or face economic sanctions.
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  Speaker 3: All of that when we get to what's making news
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  Speaker 3: in tomorrow's papers.
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  Speaker 2: But first, let's.
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  Speaker 3: Talk a little tennis competitors at the Australian Open complaining
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  Speaker 3: that postmatch interviews are embarrassing and disrespectful. Is it a
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  Speaker 3: fair point or are the players just a little sensitive?
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  Speaker 3: It all started earlier in the week when Channel nine
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  Speaker 3: commentator Tony Owns went live on air chanting abuse at
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  Speaker 3: ten time winner Novakdokovic.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what happened.
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  Speaker 4: Back to Melbourne Park where you can see the Novak
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  Speaker 4: Djokovic fans there in full voice. Yeah, the chances are
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  Speaker 4: quite Exturediny Novak, he's overrated, Novaksa has the Novack kick
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  Speaker 4: him in?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm glad they can't hear me now.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Jones said he was just being funny, which begs
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  Speaker 3: the question why isn't he doing stand up rather than
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  Speaker 3: sports commentary?
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  Speaker 2: But since then things have gotten worse.
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  Speaker 3: Last night, world number twenty and current tournament semi finalist
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  Speaker 3: Ben Shelton used his press conference to slam the Channel
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  Speaker 3: nine broadcasters.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say.
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  Speaker 5: One thing that I just want to say before we're done.
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  Speaker 5: I've been a little bit shocked this week with how
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  Speaker 5: players have been treated by the broadcasters. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: think that the guy who mocked Novak, I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that was just.
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  Speaker 1: A single event. I've noticed it.
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  Speaker 5: With different people, not just myself, and noticed it with
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  Speaker 5: Lerner TN in one of his matches. I think when
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  Speaker 5: he beat Medvedev, his post match interview I thought it
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  Speaker 5: was kind of embarrassing and disrespectful of that interview. There
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  Speaker 5: are some comments that have been made to me in
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  Speaker 5: post match interviews by a couple of different guys whether
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  Speaker 5: it's hey monthis is old enough to be your dad,
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  Speaker 5: maybe he is your dad, or today on the court,
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  Speaker 5: hey Ben, how does it feel that no matter who
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  Speaker 5: you play in your next match, no one's going to
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  Speaker 5: be cheering for you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe true.
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  Speaker 6: But.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't think a comment that's respectful from a
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  Speaker 5: guy I've never met before in my life. And I
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  Speaker 5: feel like broadcasters should be helping us grow our sport
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  Speaker 5: and help these athletes who just won matches on the
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  Speaker 5: biggest stage enjoy one of their biggest moments, and I
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  Speaker 5: feel like there's just a lot of negativity and I
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  Speaker 5: think that's something that needs to change.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: To give you an idea of what he's talking about,
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  Speaker 3: let me show you just a clip of the postgame
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  Speaker 3: interview he referred to there where he was advised by
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  Speaker 3: the interviewer that in his next match, no one will
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  Speaker 3: be cheering for you.
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  Speaker 7: Through to the center.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to play either Jadixina or Alex dimenor you know,
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  Speaker 4: like the crowd are going to be on the other
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  Speaker 4: guy's side for that, aren't they.
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  Speaker 5: I know, I got a few people out in the
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  Speaker 5: crowd who are going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be pouring for me too, and then there was this
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  Speaker 3: awkward interview with nineteen year old Leerner ten The interview
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  Speaker 3: was conducted by former Australian champion John Fitzgerald.
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  Speaker 2: It was just cringeworthy.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look, nineteen year olds are not meant to
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  Speaker 1: be that good.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know what to say to that.
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  Speaker 4: I used to live in new Born Beek, so I
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  Speaker 4: know where you live.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, in the foreset, I just had to
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  Speaker 2: pee so bad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that makes two of us, lend them.
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  Speaker 2: Joe and Lizzo. I reckon. There's a couple of things here.
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  Speaker 3: Firstly, Jim Coreer, who normally conducts these postgame interviews, and
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  Speaker 3: he's quite brilliant. He knows the game better than anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: He's got wit, and he's got relationship with most of
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  Speaker 3: the players, so there's a familiarity. But he's in Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles defending his home from fires, and so you've got
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  Speaker 3: people like John Fitzgerald, who as a tennis player was brilliant,
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  Speaker 3: but as you saw as an interviewer, not much chop.
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  Speaker 3: The interviews as a result have been pretty cringeworthy. But
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  Speaker 3: these players need to understand they're not just tennis players.
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  Speaker 3: They're entertainers and people don't want to watch robots, they
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  Speaker 3: want people who are humanized. That's the point of these interviews.
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  Speaker 3: And Ben Shelton to complain it's been disrespectful. It's all
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  Speaker 3: a bit of lighthearted banter, I think. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: he's already earned one point one million dollars prize money
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  Speaker 3: regardless of the result in his semi final. To complain
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  Speaker 3: that some of the questions are a bit cringey is
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  Speaker 3: a little bit rich, isn't it.
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  Speaker 8: No, I think this is somewhat of a culture clash.
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  Speaker 8: Americans are a lot more polite, very friendly. But at
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  Speaker 8: the same time, watching those three instances by three different guys,
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  Speaker 8: obviously on the payroll at Channel nine, all of them.
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  Speaker 7: Were very poorly done.
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  Speaker 8: But in my Australian estimation, particularly that one with Lerna
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  Speaker 8: Tia and he's only nineteen years old, this is a
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  Speaker 8: massive deal for him. And you've got some old Coja
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  Speaker 8: has been in your face.
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  Speaker 7: It was three a m.
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  Speaker 9: He had just sweated through five sets.
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  Speaker 8: You want to congratulations, You want to my goodness, you're
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  Speaker 8: only nineteen.
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  Speaker 7: Imagine what you're.
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  Speaker 8: Going to be like in five years, mate, Not some
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  Speaker 8: dude being like.
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  Speaker 7: You're not supposed to be this good.
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  Speaker 8: It is interpreted clearly by the people the receiving end
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  Speaker 8: as a put down and watching it.
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  Speaker 7: I think they have a point. I don't know how old.
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  Speaker 8: Ben Shelton is the one who's raising it, I imagine
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  Speaker 8: so also very young. This is a huge moment for them.
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  Speaker 8: It's their first Australian Open, it's probably their first time
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  Speaker 8: to Australia ever.
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  Speaker 7: And here we are.
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  Speaker 8: With not just Novak but O the buttering athletes this
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  Speaker 8: time leaving a bad taste in their mouth.
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  Speaker 9: This is not the kind of reputation we want.
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  Speaker 8: I do not think that the that the guys doing
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  Speaker 8: Jim Courier's job, come back, Jim Courier are holding the
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  Speaker 8: torch very well for Australia on the international stage at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think that's true. But again I think
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  Speaker 1: there is a difference. The difference between whether a joke
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  Speaker 1: is offensive or not is often the difference between whether
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  Speaker 1: or not someone laughs. So you can say no one
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  Speaker 1: was laughing, that's the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Shelton laughed during that interview.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty awkward point that, the point being if
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  Speaker 1: if you you know, support sort of free spead people
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  Speaker 1: being able to have a bit of flexibility and a
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  Speaker 1: bit of kind of freedom in the way they conduct
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  Speaker 1: things and not just be like robots, as you say.
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  Speaker 1: And frankly, all this controversy has actually been great for
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  Speaker 1: the game because everyone was watching that Jokovic match, Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: watching Shelton, Everyone's watching. But again, what you think is
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  Speaker 1: actually offensive is disrespectful, is actually the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't funny. The joke just didn't last.
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  Speaker 3: When he said to that kid, he said, nineteen year
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  Speaker 3: olds aren't meant to be that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a compliment. He's actually trying to pay a compliment,
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  Speaker 1: and that's right, and the kid doesn't get it. And
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  Speaker 1: again you talk about Jim Courrier, what do all three
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  Speaker 1: of these people have in common. They're Americans and they
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  Speaker 1: are very very straight. Jim Courier is extremely straight. Americans
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  Speaker 1: famously simply do not get sarcasm. They just goes straight back.
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  Speaker 8: Also, is this the scene for again, young people?
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  Speaker 7: You know that they're American. Heck, I know about the
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  Speaker 7: slight cultural divibe we have.
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  Speaker 9: I wouldn't try that.
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  Speaker 8: Literally, I have spent all together nine months in the States.
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  Speaker 8: If you add together all my trips, and one thing
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  Speaker 8: I famously know about Americans unless they're from Texas, Texans,
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  Speaker 8: if anyone laughed within the earshot of me being sarcastic,
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  Speaker 8: every American is looking at you like she's serious, she's crazy,
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  Speaker 8: what's going on? If anyone was laughing without without fail,
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  Speaker 8: it was in Texas.
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  Speaker 7: So no, no, but here you are. They're very young kids.
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  Speaker 9: Is it really that hard just to have an up
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  Speaker 9: vibe about it?
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  Speaker 7: All? I have never and I've watched a lot of tennis.
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  Speaker 8: I haven't seen interviewers putting their foot in it like
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  Speaker 8: this before.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't you make the opposite argument, though, if an Australian
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  Speaker 3: player went to the US and then winged about the
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  Speaker 3: standard of interviewing because of culture.
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  Speaker 8: But they They wouldn't though, because Americans would just be like,
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  Speaker 8: you're amazing, that's sorry, good.
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  Speaker 2: For you, Just let me finish.
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  Speaker 3: If you'd gone to another culture and you complain about
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  Speaker 3: their standard of interviewing because of cultural differences, wouldn't we say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you in their place, understand them.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that a better no?
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  Speaker 9: But as I said from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 2: We need to adapt to them.
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  Speaker 7: Any culture that's.
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  Speaker 8: An element of it I think that's an element of it.
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  Speaker 8: But as I said at the very beginning, as an
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  Speaker 8: Aussie watching all three instances, yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 7: It was rude.
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  Speaker 9: Sweated through my sets.
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  Speaker 7: You're nineteen years.
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  Speaker 2: Old and getting paid.
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  Speaker 8: Out of this guy's mouth is oh, you're not even
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  Speaker 8: supposed to be good.
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  Speaker 1: That's a comment. It's like, oh my god, what you're
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  Speaker 1: doing this nineteen? That is what he is doing.
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  Speaker 9: It's the place for backhanded com.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they're trying to humanize these people. A bit of
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  Speaker 2: bands are a bit of laughing.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 8: I would love to see you, nineteen year old, you
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  Speaker 8: having just sweated tooth and now through five sets is
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  Speaker 8: three am. I would love to see you too turn
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  Speaker 8: around and just be like, no, I didn't see a
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  Speaker 8: problem with it at all.
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  Speaker 3: For one point, I would have had no drama whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: You never know, I think the problem The point is
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  Speaker 1: there's a difference between something just being awkward and cringeworthy
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  Speaker 1: and not very funny. And yes, the interviews will lame
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  Speaker 1: as obviously. I mean one of them it's literally a
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  Speaker 1: dad joke about a dad. But there's a difference between
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  Speaker 1: that and it being offensive or disrespectful or humiliating. And
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  Speaker 1: that's I think what the marriage's fartedd got. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: will lay it if they didn't come here.
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  Speaker 8: To just be made to feel awkward by these old
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  Speaker 8: dudes who are doing a bad job, and objectively bad job.
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  Speaker 8: But speaking of doing a bad job, people after Paris
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  Speaker 8: Olympics winners of medals both gold, silver, bronze, a post
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  Speaker 8: you on social media saying why is my medal pealing?
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  Speaker 8: They've just found out that they're not solid gold, silver
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  Speaker 8: and bronze. No jokes, but truthfully this is incredible embarrassing.
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  Speaker 7: Check this out.
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  Speaker 8: The place that put them together is now recalling them,
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  Speaker 8: which is weird because they've been making French coeens and
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  Speaker 8: medals since the ninth century, so you'd think they'd know
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  Speaker 8: what they were doing by now, but no, apparently they had.
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  Speaker 7: Some new terrible laws whereby they.
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  Speaker 8: Had to spray them with some sort of chemical which
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  Speaker 8: is now causing them to peel so soon after the
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  Speaker 8: Olympics as well, this is.
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  Speaker 1: A regulations too, so this is Belgium finally getting its
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  Speaker 1: own back against France. Belgium may because of our one
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  Speaker 1: and now we are going to regulate your Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: I think the lesson here is they shouldn't have meddled
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  Speaker 2: with the process.
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  Speaker 7: Oh how long did you work?
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  Speaker 3: I also say, when you're giving medals for break dancing,
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  Speaker 3: the medals.
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  Speaker 2: Are already tarnished. Us the other point on this, but clearly.
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  Speaker 8: They kept them long enough to find out that.
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  Speaker 3: They're although they were using to stop them from corroding
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  Speaker 3: was apparently toxic. But remember when Olympians would famously they
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  Speaker 3: bite on it, right, So maybe if they just weren't
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  Speaker 3: biting them, they could still keep using that chemical and
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  Speaker 3: they wouldn't have deteriorating medal.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon that was an overhanging from maybe the Moscow Olympics,
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  Speaker 1: where they're going, Is this actually real? Is this actually.
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  Speaker 2: It goes?
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  Speaker 3: The medals weren't much better than the opening ceremony. Basically, No,
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  Speaker 3: that's right.
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  Speaker 1: And although there wasn't an exception, I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: and that was amazing the last supper that was meant
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  Speaker 1: to be backus that had the weird blue fat guy
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  Speaker 1: in credible.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they usual French ceremony, so so French.
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  Speaker 1: But I just want to pick up on one of
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  Speaker 1: your last last statements. The cycling team actually didn't have
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  Speaker 1: any of these problems with their their awards. They just
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  Speaker 1: put the pedal to the medal.
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  Speaker 7: Hilarious.
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  Speaker 8: I used to be I used to be really comforted
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  Speaker 8: by how much of a failure the paralymp Paris Olympics.
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  Speaker 7: Were because obviously we've got.
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  Speaker 8: The gong in twenty thirty two, so I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 8: if we're any better than them, that saves our bacon, right.
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  Speaker 8: But no, LA will have probably done a very flashy
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  Speaker 8: job in their new LA two point zero smart city
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  Speaker 8: by then in twenty twenty eight, so we really have
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  Speaker 8: to pick up our sobs.
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  Speaker 7: But it's not happening.
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  Speaker 8: Check this out former Queensland premiere Anastasia Paliche. You thought
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  Speaker 8: you'd seen the last of her, but no, she's grace
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  Speaker 8: people's screens again today because she wants to distance herself
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  Speaker 8: from the absolute burning dumpster fire that appears to be
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  Speaker 8: the planning or lack thereof, of the Brisbane Olympics twenty
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  Speaker 8: thirty two.
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  Speaker 10: Have a listen, when I left, we had a plan,
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  Speaker 10: we were sticking to the plan, and the tenders would
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  Speaker 10: have been out now for the Gabba, and the planning
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  Speaker 10: and construction would have been well, well, you know, well.
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  Speaker 7: Getting into it now.
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  Speaker 10: So I'm absolutely shocked at the state of this. Everything's
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  Speaker 10: getting unpicked. I often describe it as like if you
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  Speaker 10: if you're nitting a sweater and someone pulls a bit
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  Speaker 10: of wool, it's all going to come untangled.
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  Speaker 7: And everyone is pulling bits of wool of this sweater.
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  Speaker 10: And you know, if I was at the Ioic at
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  Speaker 10: the moment, I would be saying, what is going on, Brisbane,
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  Speaker 10: I've got out.
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  Speaker 7: A ps done right. She's like, I know this is disastrous.
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  Speaker 7: It's shaping up to be terrible.
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  Speaker 8: So I just want everyone to know that I have
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  Speaker 8: nothing to do with the mess that is already unfolding.
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  Speaker 8: Remember this headline from yesterday where we learned due to
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  Speaker 8: their trying to put their budget together in Queensland, they
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  Speaker 8: reckon just building the athletes village is going to cost
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  Speaker 8: three point five billion dollars. I mean, my goodness, these
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  Speaker 8: guys have no idea what they're doing. But Labor has
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  Speaker 8: already come back to them and said, well, this isn't
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  Speaker 8: our fault. This isn't our fault.
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  Speaker 1: We sorry, Jenius. Okay, so what they're doing.
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  Speaker 9: They said, we haven't costed this, we haven't planned.
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  Speaker 7: It, we haven't costed it.
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  Speaker 8: We don't even know whether it's going to be villagers
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  Speaker 8: plural or just one village. We may have it in
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  Speaker 8: four locations, so of course we couldn't cost it properly.
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  Speaker 1: This is the whole thing, is what This is exactly
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  Speaker 1: what she's doing though, and she knows all this, and
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  Speaker 1: she is positioning herself so that when the dumpster fire
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  Speaker 1: inevitably happens and the Olympics is canceled or called off,
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  Speaker 1: or people you know, don't get the bus to wherever
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  Speaker 1: it is they have to get to to actually go
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  Speaker 1: to the Athletics thing, that she can then say, well,
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  Speaker 1: I told you this in January of twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: and conveniently shift all the blame from the fact that
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  Speaker 1: it was her government with her as Premier, that got
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics in the first place, or started putting all
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  Speaker 1: these plans in place. And the weird thing is when
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  Speaker 1: did the wheels actually fall over? Where did all these
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  Speaker 1: plans fall over? When did the wheels all fall off?
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  Speaker 1: Because it was her successor, Stephen Miles, who took over
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  Speaker 1: and started changing everything for almost twelve months after she left,
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  Speaker 1: but she didn't say anything during then, and then the
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  Speaker 1: Queensland election was just in the end of October, first
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  Speaker 1: beginning of November last year, so pretty much all that's
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  Speaker 1: happened since then is the summer holidays and somehow over
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  Speaker 1: Christmas the entire kind of twelve year Olympic dream has
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  Speaker 1: just completely utterly collapse. And this is when she's chosen
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  Speaker 1: her sort of moment, you know, the eye of the needle,
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  Speaker 1: for her surgical strike. So it's very very very clever politics.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not quite sure I'm buying it well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean to get an idea of just how much
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  Speaker 3: she wants to be absolved from what is inevitably going
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  Speaker 3: to happen. She was Premier for two and a half
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  Speaker 3: years after the Olympic Games was announced to go to
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  Speaker 3: has been Stephen Miles was ten months as premier. David
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  Speaker 3: chris Fulho has been premier three months. So she is
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  Speaker 3: really responsible for this, but through both of them, including
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  Speaker 3: as you said, her success of Stephen Miles under the bus.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean it was going badly when she was
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  Speaker 2: in charge. She said she had a plan.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Her plan with the Gabba was that it would be
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: knocked down and the AFL and the Queensland Cricket Club
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: would have to build their own new facility at the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: show grounds pay for all of that millions of dollars
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: while the Gabba was redeveloped. The Athlete's village you mentioned
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: three point five billion dollars, We've just learned they allocated
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five million. So where was the
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: rest of the money coming from. She said the Games
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: would be cost neutral. Of course that's not going to happen,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and her government has already racked up one hundred and
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: four billion dollars worth of infrastructure projects over the next
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: five years, which means there's no workforce, there's no materials.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So the cost of Olympic facilities is just being jacked
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: up by the fact they've put the Olympic Games on
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: top of an already busy infrastructure schedule. Not only that,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: but ask Anastasia Paloge, how many cities did you beat
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: to win the right to host the Olympic Games? Liz,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: you know, none was the one that wanted the Olympic Game.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: The back of COVID. Everyone was just like, I kind
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: of maxed down.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you how the number of bid is that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the Victorian government beat to get the netball After Jena Reinhart.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you how.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Bad this was.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Right, Steven Miles had only been Premier for a few
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: months and it's now come to light that his cabinet
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: had made inquiries as to what would it cost them
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to ditch the Olympic Games. They advised it would be
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: around the vicinity of a billion dollars. Now, remember Dan
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Andrews absolutely flogging for ditching the Commonwealth Games.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: It was like half five hundred million, Yeah, I think
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, maybe even a bit more than that.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: But yes, it would be a billion dollars if they
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: ditched the Olympics.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: So they're stuck with it. It's probably not going to
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: be that good and it won't be Anastasia Peloge's fault.
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: When you think about it, in this current environment where
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: everyone preaches sustainability, sustainability, I can't believe we still do
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: this every four years the city around the world. Can
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: you imagine the amount of labor, the amount of emissions,
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: all the construction work that goes into building these behemoth stadiums,
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: the athletes village, et cetera.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Et cetera, and so on.
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: It's just so exorbitantly wasteful. I'm surprised that we still
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: do it here in Australia.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: We already know if Australia.
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: Were to just be like, hey, can we polish our
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: home bush a bit because you guys did it those
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: years ago, why don't we just use the same facilities
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: they're still there. Sure, we'd still have to fork out
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: a bit for extras. Times have changed, but why don't
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: we take a more sustainable I just think it's absolutely exorbitant.
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: It's eye wateringly wasteful, and I can't believe anyone.
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: Is still doing especially when you've got a government.
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: Like Palichet's government when she kinched this deal that was very,
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: very devoted to everything green, everything sustainable.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: What's the reason that they can't have it in Sydney
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: is because that wouldn't suit the Queen's Land premiere, who
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: clearly wanted the Olympic Games Joe to say look at this,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: look over here.
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: They end up happening anyway, that all she.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Done during COVID, Remember do you remember Jerry Seinfeld's famous
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: routine where he's arguing with the rentor car people at
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the airport where he said, I made a reservation, I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: reserve this car, but it's not here, and she says
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: that's right. She says, well, I don't think you understand.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: See I reserved the car, but it's not here. That's
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a problem. I don't think you know what a reservation
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: means because I think I understand it. Oh no, anything,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: it's very fad. Anyway. You can apply the same thing
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to the Palichet government. They know how to get the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Olympic Games. They just don't know how to handle give
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the Olympic Games. So it's very easy, as just very easy,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: as Jerry Siegel said, to take the reservation. Anyone could
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: just take their resivation. It's the keeping of the reservation.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It's important. It's very easy, very much to say, oh, yes,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: we are going to fund the Olympics with this magical
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: money tree that's rowing in this top secret location and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: it's all going to be We're going to build a
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: brand new stadium and war and gabba and you know
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: everything's going to be hunky dory. Yeah, I'll sign for it,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you know, across across my heart, hope to do.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: That's politics now, right, and then can help me all announcement,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: no delivery.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Look at his homes prom So you're going to build
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a million homes or whatever nowhere near it. But he's made.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: That's government in general, though exactly that is how they
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: always but all governments don't even make that, like all
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: label all governments.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Over promise and under deliver. But it's a new level,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I think, a new level of cynicism where you have
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: governments and these are both two state left faction run
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: labor governments, and I think the left faction part is
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: really important where they actually think they can just gaslight
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the public so much because they're used to, you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: reading Pravda, that they they just say, we are just
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: going to bare face lie. We are going to like
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the Soviets used to do, where they would just pretend
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that everything was absolutely fine, and you know, and and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: when everything's falling down like pyeong Yang, where you've got,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you know, a cardboard cut out of a skyscraper that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you insisted the real thing, just you just say, yes,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: we're going to do this. And they must have known,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: they must have known, just as Dan Andrews must have
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: known that this was actually never going to happen. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: yet you go around using it to sell your government,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: go around using it to win elections or to win popularity.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And then when it all just gets too hard and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it all comes crumbling down. You then spend more taxpayer
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: money for nothing, like with the you know, the East
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: West link that Dan Anders did you know? Okay, that
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: was an election promise, fair enough, you followed through. You
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: spend a billion dollars not to build a road, but
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: then again for Commonwealth games one hundreds of millions of
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: dollars for nothing, and again but not for that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I mean he won the election, right, that's.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Right, it was exactly resigned and then that's right, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: then hundreds of I don't know how you can. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: don't know how you sleep at night with that level
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: of criticism.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, how they sleep at night?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: How they sleep at night? Yeah, I just I honestly
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: don't know how you can. Like when you think about
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the eye watering sums of money involved, like the amount
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of cubist that must.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: The Victorian PREMI had all of these, you know, seventy
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: two thousand dollars on a US jaunt and there to
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: learn how to manage budgets, and then resigned like a
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: month later, even leaven the state with record but money.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Well, even that, I cannot say that kind of relatable.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You know that's those are the sort of junkets that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: were in the Telegraph would just splash on the front
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: page every day. It's like that is a story as
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: old as time.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You half a billion dollars just for nothing, just for
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: literally nothing, like not oh we went a billion dollars
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: over budget, but here's your new bridge or here's your
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: new tunnel. Just nothing. I cannot get my head around that,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And that is I reckon is really something quite new.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Part of it also is just normalizing it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: It happens so often if we open tonight being like
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: we're five billion dollars, this particular government did this, Rara,
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: we're messing by.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: They've just absolutely you know what end up?
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: Well, people wouldn't bet nihilate anymore.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: It is so common.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: Government inefficiency is just like well, of course they did.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: This is more than just like this is just we're
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: going to spend all this like for nothing, like literally nothing.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: The air Yeah, I can't, I just got It's so
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it's almost metaphysical. I can't. It's making my brain collapse.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: And yet the Victoria Labor Party keeps being re elected.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Queensland, where the Queensland University of Queensland
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: University of Technology, I should say, is holding an anti
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: racism conference. Now maybe we'll talk about anti racism a
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: little later. Personally I think you should just not be racist,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: but apparently that's not good enough. You've got to actually
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: be anti racists. So what could possibly go wrong? Well
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: a lot, as it turns out. Have a look at
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: who they've got as their guest speakers at this anti
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: racism conference. Speaker number one is who's that? That's the
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: mccruorie University lecturer. Lydia Thorpe is another speaker, and author
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Sarah Sally is speaking as well. Now Lydia Thorpe speaking
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: at an anti racism rarely This is Lydia Thorpe who
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: famously was abusing men in a strip club in Melbourne,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: telling them that they were stealing her land before she
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: called them a number of other things, and of course
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: famously she abused King Charles in the Australian Parliament, calling
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: him a colonizer.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Dr Randa abdel.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Fatar well, she wished for New Years that the state
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: of Israel would be ended. She's been implicated in the
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: docks of Jewish Australians and she led a kid's excursion
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: to Sydney University where children chanted into fada and Israel
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: is a terrorist state, so she would seem a bit
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: of an odd choice to speak at an anti racism conference.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And as for the author, Sarah Sala, she resigned from
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: the Australian Human Rights Commission after posting anti Israel comments
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: on social media. The vice Chancellor of QUT, Professor Margaret Shiel,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: excuse me, She said, diverse views and perspectives in addressing
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: systemic racism align with the principle of academic freedom and
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: QUT is deeply committed to cultural diversity and anti racism.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: The problem is there's not diverse views at this conference.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: At this anti racism conference, there are three speakers who
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: have a reputation for making statements that may well be
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: interpreted as quite racist.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: I want to go, are they going to take questions?
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: It would be so.
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: Easy to make this incredibly awkward.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: They're like, yeah, so have anyone recorded saying how would
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: you interpret that as anti rasis? Look?
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: As a free speech absolutist, I would never advocate for
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: deplatforming anyone, although I can bemoan how unfortunate it is.
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: It is that certain people do get platforms. And of
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: course this is in the universities. It's always in the
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: universities that are already a hot bed of indoctrination, always
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: in one direction. It's never a two way street for
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: students to chew on and figure out for themselves where
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: they stand.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: It's more of the same.
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: And I'm especially not surprised that this is our qut.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I think we do have a right, though, to speak
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: into it, in the sense that I mean, we have universities,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: We fund these places, so we should have a say
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: as to who they platform.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: It is free speech, but it's also paid for by us.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: How often I mean the thing is And yes, by
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: all means, go ahead and have whatever conferences you want.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: But again, when Israel academics came to the University of Sydney,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: security issues and protesters were trying to interrupt them, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: they refuse to let them speak, so they weren't allowed
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to speak. And again, so you know they believe in
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: free speech at one level, but at another level when
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: other people get shut down by the protesters, what do
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: they do do They round up the protesters, shoe the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: protests the way, call the cops, get them to move
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: them on. No, they barricaded the academics in their room
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and refuse to let them leave for their own safety.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, So again and again, Sydney and is in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a difficult position. I don't want to have to go.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But again it is always. Whenever the universities say, oh,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: we're committed to free speech, and you know that's why
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: this radical left Marxist revolutionary event has to go ahead, fine, absolutely,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: But every time someone else tries to speak, if it's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a Milo Unapolis or whoever it may better, I know, sorry,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we can't afford the security.
• 29:10
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry, you know we can't, you know, for their own safety.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: We have to you know, the hockey, the hockey league,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: whoever it is, can't you know, can't allow Jewish to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: athletes to come and compete for their own safety. So
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone's all in on free speech when it's
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you know, anyone but the Jews. What does that sound like?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But when it's Israel or when it's Jews, it's like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: oh no, sorry, we better you know, for your own
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: safety because all these people are trying to kill you,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: we better shut you up. Like again, sound familiar any
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: sort of you know reverberations coming from the past that
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: might sort of and I just find this incredibly creepy.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: And the statement from the qut Crumber Instant Executive directors is,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: while anti indigenous racism is zlamophobia, anti Semitism and anti
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: blackness have unique expressions there deeply into connected, make comprehensive
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: ins blact blah blah blah blah. But if you want
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to talk about anti semitism again, it is incredibly specific.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: There is no other race or religion that is hated
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and despised on the basis of an entirely fabricated document
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and doctrine and set of beliefs. That is just bonkers.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: It's just bunkam. It's just absolute lies, right, absolute lies.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: There is no you know, there's no other form of
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: racism that says we have to exterminate everyone of this
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: race so that our race, our people can flourish and
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: be pure. There is racis, there's discrimination, there's genocide. This
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: has all happened before. But that ideology based on a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: complete and utter fabrication invented just to justify the purging,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the exorcism, the extermination of a race that is you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: as you know, as the director might say that's pretty unique.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you're absolutely right.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: But maybe the reason that Lydia Thorpe is part of
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: this anti racism conferences because if anyone can spot racism,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: it's Lydia Thorpe. She told Radio TGB this morning that
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton is a racist.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: This is what Lydia Thorpe has had to say about
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Peter Dutton.
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: Dutton is a racist. Dutton is a violent person.
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: Dutton used to be a Queensland Police officer.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Your response, mister Dutton, I just.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Don't want to give her the publicity that she's craving
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: obviously just absurd statements and she's a publicity seeker and
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: just don't give her the headline. But I just don't
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: think she deserves promotion. She shouldn't be in the Senate.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: She's not stable enough to be a member of the
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Australian Parliament. And I think people recognize that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton is a racist.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: The logic seems to be he's a former police officer,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: so he must be racist. I sure hope people aren't
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: paying money to attend that anti racism conference at QUT.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Is it he racist because Laura Tingle imagined him in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: her head at a house auction.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Nobody missed out on renting a house because of the immigrant.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Laura Tingle's head and complaining about the Chinese buy you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to the property market. That's the evidence.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think Peter Dutton would be I reckon criticism
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: from Lydia Thorpe can only do you goodness?
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: Oh well, I would honestly just be responding being like,
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: I'm not even responding to that woman's comments.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: Because, as Dutton said, she doesn't even belong in Parliament.
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: She shouldn't even be there. This woman's a disgrace.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: The best way you can actually convey that message is
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: treating her as illegitimate as he feels that she is.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: I would have just been like, oh, look, no comment
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: on that. My record speaks for itself the end, instead
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: of engaging with it. Then shield come back.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just like what, I'm trying to think of one
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: constructive thing that Lydia Thorpe has done, aside from hysteria
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: lies stupidity.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: She has had For all the racism in Australia that
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: she complains about, she has had her political career, the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: most privileged position in the highest chamber in the country
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: just handed to her on a platter, and she has
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: just thrown it back in people's faces while still pocketing
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: all the money or the privilege or the perks. So yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, and again, she just doesn't seem to be
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a fit person. She just doesn't say. She seems to
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: be quite literally deranged. Her thoughts are incoherent, her arguments
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: are nonsensical. You know, I'm sure she'd be great fun
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to get drunk with at a party, but you wouldn't
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: want to talk politic.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: May not survive.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Before we go to a break this, we want to
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: talk about Donald Trump and Elon Musk, their relationship being
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: a little bit tested, and of course Trump is doing
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: a lot to try and get ahead of China in
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: terms of AI.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Tell us what's happening there.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: Well, last week we were talking about how kirs Sama,
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: the UK Prime Minister, had said that the UK was
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: going to be this powerhouse of AI. Well, obviously Trump
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: very much wants this to be a bastion of his administration.
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: Also committing five hundred billion dollars to these tech titans, now,
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: these technocrats, it's very interesting to note the marriage that
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: we've seen form very suddenly over the course of this
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: particular campaign, as they all latched.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: Onto the fact that Trump was going to win and.
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: They started paying favors. But we're all wondering how long
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: this marriage is going to last. It's actually very frightening
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: to consider what this five hundred billion dollars is going
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: to go toward.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: These five companies are.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: Supposed to work together in perfect harmony, even though quite
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: a few of them already have bad blood and are
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: bickering over how that five hundred billion is going to.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: Be carved up.
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: But what they're going to work to achieve is somewhat astounding.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: Here's a bit of it from a guy called Larry Ellison,
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: who is known CIA. So how reassured you feel hearing
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: this from Larry Ellison, who is a co founder of Oracle.
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: Here he is, once we gene sequence, Once we gene
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: sequence that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person,
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: against that cancer, and you can make that vaccine, that
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: mRNA vaccine. You can make that robotically again using AI
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: in about forty eight hours.
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: We're still not over the last mRNA vaccine.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: I know a lot of Americans.
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: I would say millions of Americans are very angry about
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: the fact that Fauci has been pardoned dating back to
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: the beginning of twenty fourteen.
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: Why is that necessary?
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: That's a very interesting answer there.
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: But here we are, within forty eight hours of the
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: brand new Trump administration. We've got a CIA asset in
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: Larry Ellison saying we're going to be.
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: Using AI amongst other things.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: Trust me, the technocratic state that people have been warning
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: you about four years, it's here.
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: AI is an arms race.
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: When these countries talk about AI, they're not talking about.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: Oh, we want to be the smartest, we want to
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: be the best.
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: We want robots that can wash your dishes.
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: No, no, this is in arms race of surveillance and yes,
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: very much related to warfare. So yeah, of all the
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: things to be announcing, we've got Larry Ellison, but Trump
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: is standing next to him while he's addressing the nation,
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: telling them all about some vaccine that's going to be
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: made by AI. That's another mRNA vaccine, which the Ninth
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: Circuit Court of Appeal in America just rule wasn't a vaccine.
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: They just changed the definition so that they could call
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: it a vaccine. And that people would trust it and
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: take it. I thought this was the most bizarre move,
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: and I'm.
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: Wondering how long this alliance is going to last.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: For well, on that point, Trump believes that this will
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: bring eight hundred billion dollars worth of private investment, create
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: one hundred thousand jobs, put them ahead of China in
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: terms of building all these data centers and computer infrastructure
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: to power AI development. But interestingly, Joe Elon Musk is
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: not part of this investment, so he is tweeting that
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: these tech companies don't have the money to be part
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: of this. So he's in an interesting position where he's
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: actually got an office I believe in the White House.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: He's very much the first lighted with Trump, the first buddy, but.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: He's criticizing one of Trump's big policy those involved don't
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: have the money.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Would you feel if you were the first buddy and
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you were a tech billionaire and then Donald Trump gets
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: up and announced his first tech millionaire policy and he's
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: got literally every tech billionaire except you there.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: I think the main.
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: Cause for that though that Elon is just like is
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: because open AI.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: There's bad blood there.
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: Anyone who knows the history between Sam Altman and Elon Musk,
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: Open AI and Elon Musk, we don't understand.
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: There's genuine bad blood there that is very.
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: Warranted, and open AI.
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: Should be under investigation as far as I'm concerned. Just
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: the other week, they had a whistleblower, what do I
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: tell you about whistleblowers. Whistleblowers don't kill themselves, who apparently
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: suicided himself under extremely suspicious circumstances. Tucker Carlson just did
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: a long form interview with that man's mum. Because Tucker
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: Carlson had gone through the facts of the case and said,
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: there is no way this is a suicide. He was
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: blowing the whistle on open AI, saying, these guys are
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: breaking laws every which way, there is no privacy. This
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: has gone off the reservation in a dramatic way, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: he'd left open Aii and he was going to do
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: something about it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: Unfortunately, the thumbnail that he had is missing now that
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: he's died.
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: So yeah, not suspicious at all. But then to have within.
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: Weeks the Trump administration making open AI Sam Altman one
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: of the main players in what is going to be
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: a ginormous project for many years to come, is incredibly
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: it's more than an eyebrows.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to watch that relationship over
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the next four years.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: in the papers tomorrow. Anthony Albanezi providing free apprenticeships for
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: people doing construction to try and rescue his homes promise that's.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Coming up in a moment.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: We'll start with the Camber Times and interesting story on
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: the front page, leaked footage. Integrity Commission investigates high ranking
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: public servant. The headline read's inmate allegedly thrown. Leaked footage
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: from Canberra's prison has shown a high ranking act public
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: servant appearing to throw an inmate into a cell while
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: he worked at the jail. The video shows Jason Russell,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: the Territory's Assistant Commissioner of Custodial Operations, appearing to manhandle
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: a female detainee while delivering her to a cell at.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: A correction center.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Now, this footage, leaked to the Canberra Times dates back
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to August of twenty fifteen, so it's almost ten years ago.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, Jason Russell was in twenty twenty two awarded
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: a Australian Corrections Medal as part of the Queen's Birthday
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Honors list for integrity and his dedicated service in the
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: correctionals area. So obviously those are allegations. That's a video
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: that's been leaked that appears to show that, but certainly
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: one to watch as it is.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Can I say that was a brilliant bit of investigative
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: journalism you did to doing the deep dive on Jason Russell.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: But the first thing I noticed was when they you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: when there was a news report of him getting the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: award in twenty twenty two, was that his name, official
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: name is Jason Russell, but apparently the name he goes
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: by is Jack Jack Russell.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: Good to know. I don't know about it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, live has just justice be served and we must
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this and you know, say
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: no to violence and all that. But Jack Russell Russell,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that's pretty good.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: To the front page of the ODS.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: Now apprentices ten thousand dollars to help em keep job?
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: What a who keep job? Right?
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: Anthony ALBANIZI will pay Australians to take up and complete
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: construction apprenticeships in a bid to salvage labors from to
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: build one point two million homes by mid twenty twenty nine.
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: That is so soon it's not funny as the government
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: splashes almost fourteen billion on its building Australia's future re
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: election plan. I mean, unless this is the shortest apprenticeships
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: in the world and they can start tomorrow, this is
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: going to do nothing to stem the demand.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: We're more we're.
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: In deficit of the tradees that we need to the
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: tune of well over one hundred thousand of them.
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: That's we're being told.
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: And he thinks that by.
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: Offering these guys staggering two thousand dollars payments over some years,
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: apprentices are.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: Just going to line up.
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: And also, even if this worked, it would mean that
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: all these houses are built by vast majority apprentices.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: One of the parts of that is the ten thousand dollars.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: As I understand, it isn't to get people to do
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: construct action so much as to keep them in apprenticeships
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: because the dropout rate is a.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Stake of the payment.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: To try and provide incentive to stay in yours.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: So and this is something the governments of all postagey've
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: been doing. Remember John Howard had the toolbox because apprentices
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: were getting paid so little they couldn't afford their own tools.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: It's a great policy. One of the big problems with
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the huge migration rate is that we're bringing in people
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: from overseas because we don't have the skilled workforce that
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: we need here to build the houses that we need here.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: This is exactly what he's doing. They will be an
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: extra pair of hands. They'll have people obviously looking over
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: them and giving them instruction and teaching them as you
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: do with the apprentices. Fantastic. Can't punch a hole in it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: Moving on, let's do deal for peace, says Trump.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Donald Trump has played his opening card in managing the
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: war in Ukraine, urging Russian President Vladimir Putin to make
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: a deal to end the conflict, like he hasn't been
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: trying to do that for quite some time.
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: To make a deal to end the conflict.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: Or face further taxes, tariffs, end sanctions.
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: I don't know about that, because none of them have
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: worked to date.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Haven't we already got all the.
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: Oone banks and a lot of other things in place.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: They definitely prepared for this.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: Before they took action, So there's way none of the sanctions,
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: none of the tariffs, none of anything by all the
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: Remember when Macas was like, we are pulling out over
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: Russia and all the rest of the shenanigans.
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: It didn't put a.
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: Dent in it because you're talking about.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: A country that consists run by criminals with bank accounts.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: Oh sorry, you're talking about Ukraine, right, No, my bad.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we'll see what happens. Donald Trump has promised
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: that he's going to sort it all out. We see
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: what happens over the next twenty four hours. After you
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: saw what Trump did in one day just the other day.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Who knows you could solve it all tomorrow when you
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: go to a break when we come back. How many
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: genders are there? Trump knows. But Australian politicians, well, they
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: are completely clueless all of that.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: In a moment.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: A that age old question, what is a man? What
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: is a woman?
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: And how many genders are there? Donald Trump says there
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: are two. So Australian politicians were asked today what they
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: thought Green's leader Adam Bant said it wasn't an important
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: question and he would prefer to talk about other things
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: like cost of living. Peter Dutton said nothing will change
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: for the Liberal Party and just sink to Ellen, the
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Victorian Premier. She said, the question as to how many
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: genders there are is US style division?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Have I listened to her?
• 45:31
  Speaker 12: We are seeing too much US style division coming to
• 45:36
  Speaker 12: our country and it's the responsibility of leaders to call
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: it out and not respond to it and stand up
• 45:44
  Speaker 12: for their communities.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Was at school studying biology. I didn't realize he was
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: actually studying US style.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Division, But there you go. You learn something new every day.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Why can't our politicians be like I don't know. The
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: next Prime Minister of Canada a ployee who answered the
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: question pretty simply.
• 46:04
  Speaker 13: They say they're gender neutral. You know they're a trans person.
• 46:10
  Speaker 13: Is ask something that you would recognize here? Whereas in
• 46:13
  Speaker 13: the States, at least with their US government the way
• 46:16
  Speaker 13: they're seeing it, there's only two.
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: I'm only aware of too, But I mean, if you have,
• 46:23
  Speaker 14: if you come up with another list, then you're welcome
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: to do that. But I'm aware of too, And as
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: far as I'm concerned, we should have a government that
• 46:32
  Speaker 14: just minds its own damn business and leaves people alone.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Oh for some plain speaking politicians in Australia, Liz.
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: Oh for a government that leave people alone, that's my
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: favorite kind of government.
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: Speaking of yesterday the ABC, I know.
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: We love to rip them to shreds and they always
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: deserve it, but yesterday, my goodness, they made a lot
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: of people laugh when they were in the middle of
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: interviewing Prime Minister Prime Minister Anthony Overneasy and literally cut
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: the feed to Cross Live to feature Trump instead.
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: Check this out, Well we have.
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: We are taking you to the White House now where
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: President Donald Trump is speaking.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Would be shocked at We're.
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: Starting off with tremendous investment coming into our country.
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: How's that from the national broadcast? A billion dollars?
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: And they're just like, oh oppm, let's get the president
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: of the United States of America.
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: This is way more important.
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: Not to mention, Trump was talking for that like hours
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: and hours and hours. I can't imagine that that was
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: even a very pressing, particularly good announcement.
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: They literally cut him off midcenter.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not a man who's prime to exaggeration, but
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the ABAC is literally hitler. I am sick of this
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: rampant right wing white supremacist racism running rampant through our
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: national broadcaster. That they would cut the feed from our
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: very own patriotic, homegrown he grew here, you flew here, PM,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and then just go straight to Donald Trump, you know,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and now I think he's building another bloody wall.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: It just goes to show you how much trouble Anthony
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Elbanisi is in when even the ABC kind of bored
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: with him and think, you know, let's have some Trump
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: something better than.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Trump on Who's going to be better television? As much
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: as I love Albo, you'd have to admit that Trump
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: is probably going to deliver.
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: Doesn't give them over a billion dollars every year?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, maybe Trump was was talking about climate
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: change and they had to you know, I learnt the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: favor that everyone was going to die unlikely.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I'm sure if Trump started talking about their only two genders,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: the ABC would quickly gone straight back to Anthony alban
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Easy for some news more to their liking.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: There's a real man, by the way, a real man,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: albou Elbow.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what the Chinese. That's it from us tonight.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Thanks for your company this week. We'll be back next week,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: of course, but stick around. Coming up right now it
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: is the Reader Pendey Show.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Goodnight,