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205: Fred Dies at the End · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Mooney Mountain. Can we stagger it this time? Like,
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: try it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
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  Speaker 1: If you think we can. This looks like a little
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  Speaker 1: baby Darth Vader lying on its back.
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: Kicking, trying to get over.
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  Speaker 1: Just kind of, you're like, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to let it go. So you guys
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  Speaker 2: have fun with it. I'm saying my name.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: How about, Alan, you point to people randomly.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I got this.
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  Speaker 4: Shit the bed.
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  Speaker 2: Howdy, folks.
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  Speaker 5: Come on in.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: From the looks of them fancy britches and sassy little hairdos,
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  Speaker 5: y'all ain't from around here, are ya?
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: This is Sid Hagan. You're fucking around with Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: Why don't you just take your mama home some chicken,
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  Speaker 5: and then I won't have to stuff my boot all
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  Speaker 5: up in your ass.
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  Speaker 7: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 7: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 7: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 8: It's showtime, folks.
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  Speaker 7: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 5: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: cooling in the containment chamber.
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  Speaker 9: No, I got laid off when they closed that asbestos factory.
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  Speaker 10: Now wouldn't you know it, the army cuts my disability
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  Speaker 10: pension because they said that the plate in my head
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  Speaker 10: wasn't big enough.
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  Speaker 11: Way down among Brazilians, coffee beans grow by the billions,
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  Speaker 11: so they've got to find those extra cups to fill.
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  Speaker 11: They got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
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  Speaker 2: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown, I am Brian.
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  Speaker 2: This is what happens when.
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  Speaker 1: We put you in charge of this podcast.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Alan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Craig.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 12: I'm Marlena.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 11: I'm Beau.
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  Speaker 2: Greg's still twice. This is what happens.
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  Speaker 13: When you're Alan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Alan. This is what happens.
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: When the inmates take over the asylum.
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  Speaker 1: You get this.
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  Speaker 2: This is why I can't let you guys run the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of the show. You see what happens. It's not
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  Speaker 2: going to get any better from here.
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  Speaker 5: I'm either extremely important to be listed twice or I'm
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  Speaker 5: extremely forgettable.
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  Speaker 12: Who are you again?
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  Speaker 14: What's your name?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Who let this guy in?
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  Speaker 1: You need to be a better warden.
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  Speaker 13: See, linking back to what we were talking about earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 13: You can be like that warden that makes us all
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  Speaker 13: do show tunes.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just shoot people in the head.
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  Speaker 13: Keep that in mind for future episodes.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: I did every other time. That's why we go in order.
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  Speaker 2: Because you can't handle the responsibility of that mess. I
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  Speaker 2: think it works.
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  Speaker 1: We all got it out there.
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  Speaker 16: Wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And multiple times wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's memorable.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Most of it man lucy is slick he's like shit
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: he's on here twice i'm not listening to this cappuccino
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  Speaker 1: my butt i still drink coffee.
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  Speaker 12: The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for the caffeinated movie geek hey.
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  Speaker 2: Greg do you remember what coffee we're drinking.
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  Speaker 17: Uh yeah clots of spit there you go that's it
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  Speaker 17: it's nice with something it's laced with something because it's
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  Speaker 17: not gonna get any better we we ramble on forever
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  Speaker 17: so we're just we're gonna take a break and we're
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  Speaker 17: gonna come back into the mess that started a long
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  Speaker 17: long time ago so you guys make sense of it
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  Speaker 17: we can't so sorry about that.
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  Speaker 18: So people tell.
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  Speaker 6: Me I've got great legs.
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  Speaker 1: Can't figure out why you made me big.
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  Speaker 18: Does not compute Don't not compute You think you're special
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  Speaker 18: and so do I Why do special women make me cry?
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  Speaker 18: Does not compute Don't not compute Must be something.
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  Speaker 6: In the water to.
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  Speaker 18: Drink It's been the same with every girl I've had
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  Speaker 18: See you.
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  Speaker 4: Soon, little one, and then drink Why, I wanna, wanna,
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  Speaker 4: wanna treat a man so bad.
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  Speaker 1: The big ship pounded on the rocks, but the crew
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  Speaker 1: all got ashore. Then fearless Fred dived in again and
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  Speaker 1: swam toward the wreck once more.
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  Speaker 5: He'll never make it!
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  Speaker 7: The waves are too high!
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  Speaker 8: But he made it back to land.
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  Speaker 7: I had to return to the ship.
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  Speaker 8: He explained.
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  Speaker 7: For my toddy, the chocolate drink that's just grand. Toddy
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  Speaker 7: does taste grand at the snack bar or at your car.
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  Speaker 7: During intermission, enjoy a Toddy, the delicious chocolate drink in
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  Speaker 7: a can. Ice cold or steaming hot, Toddy hits the
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  Speaker 7: spot with everybody. See how much better that popcorn or
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  Speaker 7: those hot dogs taste with Toddy.
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  Speaker 1: Mmm, delicious. It was 1969. And there was one question
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  Speaker 1: on everybody's mind.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: It was the year the war came home. You must
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: be really proud of your brother, huh?
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  Speaker 2: It's not my war.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's entitled to his own opinion. It was the wrong
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  Speaker 1: time to be a soldier.
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  Speaker 7: You want to go to Vietnam and get your face
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  Speaker 7: shot off?
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  Speaker 1: Not particularly.
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  Speaker 8: A hard time to be a parent.
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  Speaker 2: Don't die.
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  Speaker 1: But for scott and ralph yeah yeah it was a
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  Speaker 1: good time we had naked people giving us free food
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  Speaker 1: to have a great time.
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  Speaker 7: You know we're gonna change the world ralpho his brother is.
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  Speaker 19: Over there risking his life for our country we don't
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  Speaker 19: even know he's dead don't keep pushing me i.
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  Speaker 5: Want you to stay with me and fight relax cliff
• 7:02
  Speaker 5: Sage of Aquarius.
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  Speaker 1: From the Academy Award-winning writer of On Golden Pond.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. Trying to make me paranoid or something.
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  Speaker 1: Kiefer Sutherland. You are so weird.
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  Speaker 2: 1969.
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  Speaker 19: People are going to look back on 1969 and say
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  Speaker 19: that's the year everything changed.
• 7:21
  Speaker 6: We're a show.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: That is ostensibly about horror. Booby bouncing from the running.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: That monkey was Benson. He had sex with Kim Cattrall.
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: Open your mouth so I can fill the void. Rats
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: are gross.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: Far eastern yeti have smaller feet than.
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: So, like, what are we supposed to learn from that?
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: You're like, shit, this is the one with the really
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  Speaker 1: fat guy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Damn it.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. They gave each other a Dutch rudder.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: It was fine.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: Apparently you've never been to makeitandy.com.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Those are flaps, not doors.
• 8:00
  Speaker 6: Woody.
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  Speaker 7: Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Who's Woody?
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: It's a wiker with a booty. It looks like Mike's
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: jerking it over there. I'm going to class it up now.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: After that smut.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: Shows are most popular by the way they smell.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: You're a real black hole right now. He sure is.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: I'd bang him. The horror of unreleased Beach Boys songs.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: There you go. Are you referring to my lady right now?
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  Speaker 15: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Tony Todd. You're listening to Movie Meltdown. Pay attention
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• 9:28
  Speaker 1: your problem, you know.
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  Speaker 6: You haven't seen enough movies.
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  Speaker 8: All of life's.
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  Speaker 7: Riddles are answered in the movies.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: And now, on with the show. from the budget.
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  Speaker 11: He got wired up All the paper on the ground
• 10:02
  Speaker 11: Cause he loved the sound Rockin.
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  Speaker 4: Out The alcoholic opera The echoes of.
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  Speaker 17: A bad.
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  Speaker 2: Time Down the fade of.
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  Speaker 18: The house.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I saw a lot of movies
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  Speaker 1: that most people saw when they came out and we
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  Speaker 1: might talk about later. I saw The Rope, which I'd
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  Speaker 1: never seen.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: Which one?
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: It came up. It's Hitchcock. Oh, Rope.
• 11:15
  Speaker 9: I couldn't tell whether you said The Road.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: Or The Rope.
• 11:17
  Speaker 8: The Rope.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's just Rope. It's The Rope. Is it
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: The Rope?
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Since when?
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: I thought it was Rope, but it's The Rope.
• 11:24
  Speaker 8: I don't believe you.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: It comes up on the screen. The Rope. It's fun
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  Speaker 1: because although it seems fundamentally unserious, like a lot of
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: Hitchcock is, I mean, not unserious. They're serious movies, but
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: they're not serious about things. They're not, you know. But
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: when it gets to the part where Jimmy Stewart's saying,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I was wrong about that. Who are you
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: to think you can do? I'm like, fuck you, America.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: There's just something great about that moment in the movie.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: And let's say I watch Jules and Jim, which is
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: a good movie. I have trouble keeping up with who's
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: Jules and who's Jim. It's my only real complaint about that.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: But it's a good movie. And I heard people... I
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: don't usually listen to other podcasts where movies come up,
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: but I listened to one, and they were talking about
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: movies that involve teachers. And I wanted to, like, my
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: mic wasn't on. I kept wanting to say, Pride of
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Miss Jean Brody. And so I just want to say
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: that now. The Pride of Miss Jean Brody. I really
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: love that movie.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Sadly, I just turned your mic on.
• 12:48
  Speaker 15: Oh.
• 12:50
  Speaker 13: It's like that one and also, oh, God, what is
• 12:54
  Speaker 13: it called?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Something Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Browning.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know that one.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: Teaching Mrs. Tingle? Is that the one you're thinking of?
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: The faculty.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: The faculty's good. Yeah, see, that's actually one.
• 13:07
  Speaker 13: I remember when I was in high school and I
• 13:10
  Speaker 13: first discovered, like, Kubrick and stuff like that, I became, like,
• 13:13
  Speaker 13: I started becoming a movie snob before I graduated because
• 13:16
  Speaker 13: all these other kids were going out to see, like,
• 13:18
  Speaker 13: scream 2 and all that dimension stuff and i was
• 13:21
  Speaker 13: like because that was when i was getting vincent price
• 13:24
  Speaker 13: and stuff like that i was like no i'm just
• 13:25
  Speaker 13: gonna delve into the classics and so everything that came
• 13:29
  Speaker 13: out from dimension i just chalked up as being shit
• 13:32
  Speaker 13: which pretty much it is i mean scream was kind
• 13:34
  Speaker 13: of fun but i mean i know what you did
• 13:36
  Speaker 13: last summer and all those other things just with the
• 13:39
  Speaker 13: faculty it's one i saw like a couple years ago
• 13:41
  Speaker 13: i was like God damn it, I want to go
• 13:43
  Speaker 13: back in time and say.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Listen, you dumb shit.
• 13:46
  Speaker 13: Quit being pretentious and watch this movie while you're in
• 13:48
  Speaker 13: high school because it's a lot of fun.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: It's fun.
• 13:51
  Speaker 17: I mean, it's not original at all. Everything in it
• 13:54
  Speaker 17: is stolen from other stuff.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: But it's a lot of.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Fun the way they throw it together. It's very much
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
• 14:00
  Speaker 13: And there's also some elements of John Carpenter's The Thing
• 14:03
  Speaker 13: when they're doing the whole testing and the.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of movies he steals from.
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  Speaker 17: But, I mean, it's Williamson and Rodriguez, both of which
• 14:11
  Speaker 17: do nothing but steal from other properties.
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  Speaker 13: And it's like a character actor's orgy, too, when it
• 14:16
  Speaker 13: comes to all the different people playing. I mean, you know,
• 14:18
  Speaker 13: Jon Stewart's playing a teacher in it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want to see a character actor's orgy.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: I rented that the other day. What are you talking about?
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. That's like when one time I saw
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Garcia Does Dylan. And it was in the adult film section.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this belongs in music, CDs, please. Nobody's going
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: to take that.
• 14:46
  Speaker 9: What were you looking for in the adult section, by the.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Way?
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: What did you end up with, and would you give
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: us your review?
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking for Joni Mitchell, because she's the
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: most attractive woman who resembles Skeletor. Wow.
• 15:07
  Speaker 16: Still going Amy Mann on that one.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody always has... Yeah, I know. This has come up before.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I couldn't remember when.
• 15:17
  Speaker 17: When she was lurking out in front of my house,
• 15:19
  Speaker 17: which happened, she looks lovely.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 15: I keep having dreams that I'm with John Doe. It's
• 15:26
  Speaker 15: so weird.
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  Speaker 2: He was out in front of my house.
• 15:28
  Speaker 15: I know.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: But in my dreams... I've got stalker pictures to prove it.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if they're stalker pictures if they
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: were stalking me. I just took pictures of the.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: But you took pictures out the window.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I took pictures out the.
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  Speaker 17: Window of the weirdos that were hanging out in front
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  Speaker 17: of my house, both of which were rock star slash actors.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 15:45
  Speaker 17: So I.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: I did that for... I used to live across the
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: street from Richard Belzer, but Richard.
• 15:48
  Speaker 14: Belzer's, like.
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: It's better than that. Richard Belzer's weird hidden bachelor.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Pad that he had in Los Angeles that he.
• 15:55
  Speaker 16: Only stayed at some of the time when he was
• 15:57
  Speaker 16: filming Law & Order and living full-time in New York City.
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  Speaker 3: I have a picture of him kissing a dude.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Did I just say that on the radio? Yeah, yes. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you did.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't come as a surprise at all.
• 16:07
  Speaker 17: Richard Belzer, if you'd like to come on and defend yourself,
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  Speaker 17: go ahead and send us an email.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: We need to put him on this episode just as
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: a special guest, even though he's not. People listen to
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  Speaker 5: the whole episode.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Remember on Homicide when somebody had the big nude photograph
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: of him before he was a cop?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I remember that episode.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: In the 60s, he's hitting a bong and he's sitting
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: there stark naked. And all the detectives walk across to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the gallery, and they're, uh-huh. And he tries to get
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: them to take it down, but they're like, no, this
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  Speaker 1: is part of the show.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty great.
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  Speaker 3: He's a legitimately interesting person.
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  Speaker 16: I think he'd be okay with me having pictures of
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  Speaker 16: him kissing a dude.
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  Speaker 2: Cool.
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  Speaker 3: He's a good-looking dude.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Well, he's got that going for him. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to bother to do it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: If you're going to kiss a dude, you better.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Be a pretty dude.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: It was actually pretty innocuous.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Innocuous. Alan's laughing at the word innocuous.
• 17:05
  Speaker 20: What is innocuous here?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The smoking episode. It's funny how that episode we
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: did back At Thanksgiving, it keeps coming up. It's amazing.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Remember we all brought food and stuff and we watched
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Blood Freak? That was a long time ago. About that time,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I remember Trader Joe's had Thanksgiving stickers that were misprinted
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and they said, Gooble Gooble. Which reminds me, because we
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: were watching Blood Freak, of Gooble Gobble from Freaks.
• 17:45
  Speaker 13: And we are in Louisville, from which Todd Browning.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Originated. It's crazy. Home of the freaks. And remember that
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: chick in frames? And then we were talking about amputees.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: It's just like... And yeah, and yeah. You ever think
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: about the order of the.
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  Speaker 9: We're having our very own flashbacks episode.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I saw you with a chick the other night.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Looked like Richard Belzer.
• 18:09
  Speaker 13: And we're all having flashbacks right now to the previous episode.
• 18:12
  Speaker 13: Like apparently they have flashbacks in Beyond the Black Rainbow.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And the Simpsons.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Just the one flashback.
• 18:17
  Speaker 15: And Full House.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and Full House.
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  Speaker 9: Actually, what that scene kind of made me think of
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: when I saw it, even though I quit after half
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: an hour, was Elias Mirage's Begotten.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I've seen that. That's a little more cohesive, though. I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: had to quit after like half an hour.
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: I was just, I couldn't, it was too fuzzy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I couldn't see what was going on.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I tried to. I was sick at the time. It
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: was back when, yeah, I was sick.
• 18:42
  Speaker 13: Well, I told all the stories when I was drugged
• 18:44
  Speaker 13: up after surgery and watching stuff.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And that was one I was watching.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, those were fun stories.
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 18:51
  Speaker 13: I really enjoyed Saturday Night Fever.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You certainly did, and we all know.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: There's tears in my eyes. Like, John Travolta, you're so beautiful.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: What happened to you? Why did the 70s die? Why
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: isn't there still disco?
• 19:07
  Speaker 17: If you want to be the dude that he's kissing,
• 19:09
  Speaker 17: I'm sure that can be arranged as well from what
• 19:11
  Speaker 17: we hear these days.
• 19:12
  Speaker 13: If anything, okay, and I know I'm going to touch
• 19:15
  Speaker 13: on a sensitive topic because Fred's here, but if we
• 19:18
  Speaker 13: can talk hipsters again. With hipsters, why isn't it? disco
• 19:23
  Speaker 13: exist again because i mean it's so popular to be
• 19:26
  Speaker 13: into stuff that was popular 20 30 years ago why
• 19:29
  Speaker 13: isn't disco resurfaced i think.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: It's the advent of hips i think it's too easy
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: like a sensitive topic with me i i think it's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: hilarious um you did go off on a tirade as
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: almost just about my neighbors who turned out to be
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: i thought they were hipsters but they're douchebags.
• 19:46
  Speaker 15: Oh, okay.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Well, never mind then. We're cool on hipsters. It's fun
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to make fun of douchebags.
• 19:51
  Speaker 15: My friend's roommate is a DJ for popular hipster clubs
• 19:59
  Speaker 15: in town. I will not mention his name, but they
• 20:02
  Speaker 15: have a large amount of weird disco clubs.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: What club around here actually has a disco floor? That's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: what I want to know. What I've said about that
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: is when you revive... See, I'm worried about the future
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of retro, and I know this is something that probably matters. Like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: in the future, if you look around today, what is
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: going to fuel... I guess it would be retrolium would
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: be the fuel.
• 20:29
  Speaker 20: You've been sitting on that one, haven't you?
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: He has.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: He's been banking it for months, waiting for the opportunity.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: He's been digging to find it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But what is it about now that will, to somebody
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: in some hypothetical future, be something that they would want
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to revive? And my feeling is when you revive the 50s,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: there's this optimism that becomes tragic. And so it's kind
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: of cool. It becomes a layer cake, if you will.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: But if you revive the 70s, you're just like Scully
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and people think you're dense. It's like, why don't you
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: let it die? And people try to do it to kids.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Like you'll see, they've tried many times to revive the 70s.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: You'll see, like, Kmart, the new 70s looks. And they
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: have these innocent children who don't know because they weren't there.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: They didn't live through it, and they can dress them
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: up like that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 15: The 70s is back in full force, not like the
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: disco thing.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: But think about.
• 21:38
  Speaker 15: All the guys with their 70s beards and their plaid
• 21:41
  Speaker 15: shirts and their PBR beer koozies.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: That exists.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:45
  Speaker 13: The beards could almost be a throwback to the Victorian era, too.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: It could be.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And, I mean, sometimes you see those dudes have mutton shots. Yeah,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 13: I mean, come on. I see more pictures of dudes
• 21:55
  Speaker 13: with beards when I look at, like, you know, pictures
• 21:57
  Speaker 13: of Civil War generals and not looking at pictures from
• 22:00
  Speaker 13: the 70s.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: That's more like what.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Alan explained one time, is that you bring something... I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: think you did. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: know where we're going with this. Like, you wear something
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that looks stupid, but you know it's stupid, so it's it. Oh,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the irony of irony. Yes. That was a whole Facebook thing.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Post-ironic.
• 22:19
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So irony is actually about knowing, because if you don't know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: then it's not ironic.
• 22:27
  Speaker 15: I feel like beards are a throwback to the bog
• 22:30
  Speaker 15: man found in that people, the prehistoric bog man.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that what that's referencing? That's why I have
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a beard.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: The prehistoric bog man.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Because if you look at classical dramatic irony, like Oedipus,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know, he says he's going to find whoever has
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: angered the gods and is causing trouble, and It's not
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: irony in the sense that he doesn't mean it. It's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: not hipster irony, like you say something and people know
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that you're... It's dramatic irony because we know it's him.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: He means what he says. It's a dramatic... But the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: thing is, we know, dude, it's you, and there's all
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: this other stuff. Dude. So, I mean, irony doesn't have
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that one sense, but it's about knowing. One way or
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the other. But I don't think all hipsters know. See,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: they don't. They don't always know because they may wear
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a mustache that looks terrible. And it's ironic because they
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: know it looks bad. But if you know they know
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it looks bad, then it just looks bad and it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: not ironic.
• 23:41
  Speaker 17: But I think the fact that they know, the fact
• 23:43
  Speaker 17: that they're trying that hard is what makes them a hipster.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And back to your neighbor, also kind of a douchebag.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there is some crossover I've found. Because when
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: they first moved in, I heard them talking about something
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that used to be cool but wasn't anymore. And I thought,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that's hipster talk. Hipsters are moving in next door. But
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it just turned out to be some random thing that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: actually used to be cool and wasn't anymore.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they're douchebags. I see what you're talking about, about.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The future of retro. That makes sense.
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: I mean, are people, like, back in the 80s, did
• 24:20
  Speaker 13: people consciously think, okay, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, this animated series,
• 24:24
  Speaker 13: it's going to collapse for a decade, but it'll come back.
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: Or the same with, like, Rubik's Cubes or Hula Hoops or,
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: you know, God, I'm trying to think of some other
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: trends that have just kind of, cycled over the years,
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: but I mean, it's like, does somebody consciously think about
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: that when they think of the product? It's like, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 13: know this will fail initially, but give it 10 years,
• 24:46
  Speaker 13: and then people will.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Be like, you know, hungry for it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I can say that the answer is no. Oh, sorry,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: you were about to say something more interesting.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: No, I was not. No, you were. I was just
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: going to say about slinkies, like they began... Never mind, okay,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I'll take a mic.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Slinkies....
• 25:09
  Speaker 20: That was great, though.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I was going to say. It
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: actually began as a revival because it was just some
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: dude who saw a spring do this thing and he
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: thought it would be a toy and he got it
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: put in a store. And it was a failure. His
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: wife knew nobody's going to want this. So she went
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to buy them all. or at least some of them.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And she got there and they were sold out because
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it had already become retro. On the day they set out,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: there was already a revival somehow. People were fighting for it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And so they got them. And the other thing about
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the Slinky, which is interesting, is if you let one
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: dangle and let go of it and film it, you
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: see that the bottom hovers. Because the rest of the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: slinky will fall until it gets down to the bottom
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of the slinky. Because this part of the slinky doesn't
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: know you've let go yet. It doesn't know. That's really
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: fucking cool. Yeah, you can watch this. The slinky doesn't
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: know you've let go until the rest of the slinky
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: gets there.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: To tell it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Or it could be the motion. Well, I'm not going
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: No, it really.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I like the slinky up is equal to the speed.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I like the way Fred says it. Physics doesn't know.
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: See, the only thing I can picture is the old
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: SCTV sketch with Count Floyd's Monster.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Chiller Horror Theater to where it's like the night of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the slinky.
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: That's the one thing I always liked about those old shows.
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: We were even talking about how a future episode of
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: what happened to people who were popular. You can almost
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: do one with every single person in that show. It's
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: like Rick Moranis. Where is he now? Dave Thomas. John Candy,
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: I haven't seen him in anything for 20 years.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: What the hell happened to him?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: He's a slacker.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: My favorite is, and you can even see it online,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: is the Midnight Cowboy when John Candy.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I think John Candy's even playing... He was in Midnight Cowboy?
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: In the SCTV remake, and it's the 3D version of it,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: and they're like, hey, that's a nice shirt, and they go....
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: You'll have to look that one up. It's a pretty
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 27:39
  Speaker 17: Well, I think the future of retro thing that you're
• 27:43
  Speaker 17: it is one of those I do wonder and it's
• 27:45
  Speaker 17: because I recently saw because we always do that well
• 27:49
  Speaker 17: you're making fun of the 70s and we all kind
• 27:51
  Speaker 17: of make fun of like hey remember the 80s and
• 27:53
  Speaker 17: Rubik's cubes and you know it's a very visual thing
• 27:56
  Speaker 17: you can picture stuff from the 80s it all looks
• 27:58
  Speaker 17: like Max Headroom in your head but like I saw
• 28:02
  Speaker 17: on a Facebook post the other day that was like
• 28:04
  Speaker 17: you know you're a kid from the 90s when and
• 28:07
  Speaker 17: whatever like they inserted something that was like happened last
• 28:10
  Speaker 17: week to.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Me and i was just like wow but at.
• 28:14
  Speaker 17: Least i had like all right yeah that's very 90s
• 28:16
  Speaker 17: but i'm like what is the odds you know it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 17: like what was that time like can you think of
• 28:21
  Speaker 17: anything that feels like very zero to ten.
• 28:24
  Speaker 13: Ish i'm trying to make some films because um i
• 28:27
  Speaker 13: know there's been i know i've seen films where they
• 28:29
  Speaker 13: push it's like this is a new cult film coming
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: out it's like You can't push something as a cult
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: film when it's coming out for its first run because
• 28:36
  Speaker 13: it doesn't have a cult following.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Unless it's the slinky movie.
• 28:43
  Speaker 16: No, I remember vividly having this conversation in science class
• 28:47
  Speaker 16: in probably the fourth grade with Kevin Siders. And he said,
• 28:50
  Speaker 16: our era is so not cool.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Like everything else.
• 28:53
  Speaker 16: Before has been cool and the 80s are not cool.
• 28:55
  Speaker 16: And we're never going to have, and he didn't say
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: distinguished because we're in fourth grade. But he really, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 16: I was just like, well, I don't think that's, I mean,
• 29:01
  Speaker 16: I remember so vividly having this conversation. I was like, well,
• 29:04
  Speaker 16: nobody's ever going to like the 70s, but I think
• 29:06
  Speaker 16: we have some pretty cool stuff now. And then in
• 29:08
  Speaker 16: the 90s, there was the 70s revival. And I was like, well,
• 29:11
  Speaker 16: the 90s doesn't have anything because it's all retro.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It's all the 70s.
• 29:15
  Speaker 16: And then now there's this grunge revival where it's like retro, retro,
• 29:18
  Speaker 16: where the flannel and the boots and the skirts all
• 29:21
  Speaker 16: come back. But it's retro 90s, which was actually retro 70s.
• 29:24
  Speaker 15: And Like in the 80s, it was retro 50s.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: But see, the weird thing is, like what Fred was
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: talking about earlier, is you think back to the 50s,
• 29:35
  Speaker 13: and it's like that pleasant on the surface, but just
• 29:38
  Speaker 13: the paranoia underneath. It's all about the feeling of the
• 29:42
  Speaker 13: culture at the time and then you get into the
• 29:44
  Speaker 13: late 60s, early 70s and just sort of the hippies
• 29:48
  Speaker 13: and the movement around the war. It's like 80s it
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: seems to be more focused on what television cartoons were on.
• 29:57
  Speaker 13: It's like it became, for the 80s, it's more superficial.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Well, it was that much partly, too, because we move
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: into an era where there's not anything that's definitely on now.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: So people remember it. Remember back when we all watched
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the same thing?
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Because it was on?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Well, now we're scattered.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: People now don't have that so much.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Everybody watches their own thing.
• 30:20
  Speaker 17: Everybody has their own YouTube channel or they're watching whatever
• 30:23
  Speaker 17: they want on Netflix.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: That depends partly on what the future is.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: What is striking about the past?
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Sadly, there are standouts.
• 30:31
  Speaker 16: Like, Justin Bieber will be... this decade. Like that hair
• 30:35
  Speaker 16: will be this decade.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Did you see the post where somebody said, some kid said,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: do you feel like the Beatles stole that haircut and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: all this stuff from Justin Bieber? I'm just saying. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: then they show Liam Neeson saying, Whoever you are, I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: will find you and I will kill you.
• 30:53
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 15: This girl in my class, like, two weeks ago was like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 15: did you know there's a, like, a real Words With
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: Friends you can play?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: It's called Scrabble.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: No, maybe not.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: It's just Scrabble. But she was serious. She was like,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: it's Scrabble.
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: It's called Scrabble. And she was, like, not being ironic
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: or anything at all.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: She's just being dumb.
• 31:15
  Speaker 15: She's just being like a 19-year-old girl.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Dumb. All right, whatever.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: There's, like, a real Word for Friends. There's, like, this
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: real-world Facebook where you send people letters.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: You know, my daughter, somehow I miss the 80s. Like,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I wasn't conscious during the 80s. But my daughter says,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you can say to my mom and dad, oh, look
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: at that, that's so 80s. And they're like, is it?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we don't recognize whatever the 80s are
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: unless it's like leg warmers or, you know, just something obvious.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: If it has 80s written on it. VH1' s I Love
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the 80s.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: That's how you know. Which is so 90s.
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: I love how they had I Love the 90s.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: It was like 2002. I love the 90s. One of
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the only music videos I ever saw. I don't know any.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I never saw MTV. I don't know. I don't know
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: what I was doing. But there was a Neil Young
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: video to a song called Wondering. And I worked with
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a guy who was a huge Neil Young fan, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I said, I like that one video. It's sort of
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: stop action, and it's sort of doo-wop, and it's Neil Young.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, that's not Neil Young. I'm like, yeah,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that's Neil Young. He's like, I would know. I would
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: have seen it. But it's on YouTube, you know? So
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: that's what YouTube is for. You can learn arguments you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: had with people before everything was on the line.
• 32:54
  Speaker 13: You mentioned that the only two music videos I can
• 32:56
  Speaker 13: think of from the 80s are Thriller and George Harrison's
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: I've Got My Mind Set On You.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It's like, those are the only two. That was a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: good video.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: It's all Duran Duran for me.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: There was actually an alternate video for that.
• 33:07
  Speaker 16: I didn't have cable then, so we had that crappy
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: music video show.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: That came out on Saturdays. Maybe. No, the box was
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the Canadian, I think.
• 33:14
  Speaker 21: It was like fake music videos that they made for
• 33:17
  Speaker 21: songs that weren't like the artistically created videos. But anyway,
• 33:21
  Speaker 21: the one for that song were these two kids in
• 33:24
  Speaker 21: an arcade and they were playing that claw game.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: And he had.
• 33:27
  Speaker 16: His mind set on this ballerina and the claw game
• 33:30
  Speaker 16: to give to his girlfriend.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I think she was watching karaoke background.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: But I saw that before I ever saw the real video.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 33:37
  Speaker 16: Maybe we can find that on the YouTube and prove
• 33:40
  Speaker 16: I'm not crazy.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Nope, too late. But I don't know. I think there's not... Again,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: we're not in that era anymore.
• 33:48
  Speaker 17: We've moved into the next two years here. We're moving
• 33:51
  Speaker 17: ahead in... do you think there's any feel to those
• 33:54
  Speaker 17: last 10 years? Like the first 10 years of that
• 33:56
  Speaker 17: new decade?
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: I've got a theory for me. I, because I don't,
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: I was, it's Fred's blur.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like my blur.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: And, uh, because the eighties, I clearly remember cause I
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: was a young child and I was absorbing everything from
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: the eighties. Uh, but I had my children during, you know, 2003,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: you know, that whole era. And, um, You know, babies
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: where you're changing diapers and you're worried about all the
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: baby problems and every monthly doctor visit and all those.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: And it was a vacuum. Like, it happened in a
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: week and a half, I think, in the aughts. And
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: I was decorated by Disney.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: And I remember.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: The one thing I really remember about him was the
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Lord of the Rings trilogy because we had one of
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: the cable channels for free when my daughter was born.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: And every night that she would be up screaming, crying,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: I would rock her and the Fellowship of the Ring
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: would be on. One of the eight channels that we'd have.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I'll watch it again. And it just
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: burned in my brain that that's the only thing that
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: existed during 2003 to 2008.
• 35:13
  Speaker 17: I'm just wondering if we're, again, because I don't know
• 35:17
  Speaker 17: if people realize the amount that the Internet is changing society.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And like you said, there are no arguments now.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Like you can just look stuff up.
• 35:25
  Speaker 17: If because everything is so accessible now that we're kind
• 35:28
  Speaker 17: of losing that identity and it kind of kicked in
• 35:31
  Speaker 17: in that 10 year period.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So are we now like starting again? Because now kids.
• 35:35
  Speaker 17: Can go back on YouTube and watch stuff from the
• 35:37
  Speaker 17: 70s or whatever.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: 90s, or they can watch whatever they want. They don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: have to pay attention to what's on TV. Most people
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: don't have to.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead.
• 35:48
  Speaker 15: You can think about past generations and how a decade
• 35:52
  Speaker 15: is clearly defined by certain styles, but I mean like
• 35:57
  Speaker 15: globalization has pretty much done away with it. Everything is
• 36:00
  Speaker 15: so quick.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: It's like a fad.
• 36:01
  Speaker 15: It does not last for years anymore.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: It is like it's gone.
• 36:05
  Speaker 15: It's like a flash in the pan. So there's just
• 36:07
  Speaker 15: so much. It's like, what are we really going.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: To hold on to?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 36:11
  Speaker 17: Are we starting to lose all of that stuff because
• 36:15
  Speaker 17: of that? And for that same reason, because now we're
• 36:18
  Speaker 17: connected to every part of the world that we don't
• 36:20
  Speaker 17: have these little like pockets of just our neighborhood was
• 36:23
  Speaker 17: in this or just whoever was, you know.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Whatever network was putting this out.
• 36:28
  Speaker 15: I don't think we're going to lose it, but I
• 36:30
  Speaker 15: think it's going to make I Love the 2010s.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: A whole lot longer. I mean, it's going to be
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: like a four-year series.
• 36:39
  Speaker 13: And also what you were mentioning, actually, I think it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: sort of branching off of that. I think since everything
• 36:47
  Speaker 13: is out there that... It's going to be a little
• 36:50
  Speaker 13: bit less everything because since you do have all these
• 36:52
  Speaker 13: shows available from every decade, that's when you start to
• 36:55
  Speaker 13: take it for granted because it's just there.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 13: I mean, when we were growing up, it's like you
• 36:59
  Speaker 13: watched it because that was the only thing that was
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: on and you were glad.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: To have that.
• 37:03
  Speaker 13: Now it's like if you've got all this choice of
• 37:04
  Speaker 13: the main things, it's like, yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's.
• 37:08
  Speaker 13: I feel like basically the more there is, the more
• 37:10
  Speaker 13: there is to take for granted. And as such, there's
• 37:13
  Speaker 13: less of a passion for anything.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't attach to anything.
• 37:16
  Speaker 17: And it probably started when we were kids because you
• 37:19
  Speaker 17: started getting that cable seeping in. And you had that
• 37:22
  Speaker 17: Nick at Night thing came along. And, like, all of
• 37:24
  Speaker 17: a sudden these shows from the 50s were shows you
• 37:26
  Speaker 17: were watching every night.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: So I think, you know, we started attaching ourselves.
• 37:30
  Speaker 17: But kids now, like, have no concept of that. Like,
• 37:33
  Speaker 17: they're just exposed to everything constantly.
• 37:35
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Speaking of Nick at Night, I just share this memory
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: that just flashed back to my brain.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: In eighth grade, the Patty Duke show came on on
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Nick at Night.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: And a kid that was in eighth grade with me,
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: we had a fight for weeks whether or not Patty
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Duke actually had a twin or not.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: If you had the internet.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Right, if we had the internet. And I kept saying,
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: if you watch the credits, it doesn't list two people. Oh,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: they're just doing that because they're messing with you.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: There's another person.
• 38:05
  Speaker 18: There's no way.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: They had that technology back then.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: There's no way a hot dog makes her lose control.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: It's like when I drove my mom through a drive-thru
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the other day. They had the window you pay at
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: and the window, same girl. And I didn't know, is
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: it like a twindo? Or is she.
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: Running from one to take the money and then up
• 38:28
  Speaker 14: here to get.
• 38:29
  Speaker 17: They only hire twins just because they're messing with you, man.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: My son's business idea is he's going to start a
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: rival McDonald's where you choose whichever. Pay at whatever window
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you like.
• 38:40
  Speaker 13: See, I like the fact that you keep working in
• 38:43
  Speaker 13: all these words. You've been thinking about it a lot.
• 38:44
  Speaker 13: Now you've worked in Twindo.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: You better patent.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: All these things and start trademarking them now.
• 38:54
  Speaker 16: I think that every decade has a unifying identity, and
• 38:57
  Speaker 16: I think we're too close to it now to know
• 38:59
  Speaker 16: what it is. I mean, I think it will always
• 39:01
  Speaker 16: be cultural stuff, standout cultural stuff. I think now it
• 39:03
  Speaker 16: will be a lot more technology, like what technology will
• 39:06
  Speaker 16: seem completely archaic in 10 years, and you'll identify things
• 39:09
  Speaker 16: with what we used to use.
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: What do you own right now that's archaic?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 13: But, I mean, I guess the question, because, I mean,
• 39:18
  Speaker 13: We could almost just find out from the table what, like,
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: since we were talking about the 80s earlier, what movies
• 39:24
  Speaker 13: do you think of as defining the 80s when you
• 39:26
  Speaker 13: think of that, just off the top of your head?
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: Because for me.
• 39:30
  Speaker 13: i was going to say that's john hughes anything pops
• 39:33
  Speaker 13: into my mind less than.
• 39:34
  Speaker 17: Zero for some reason it's all simple it's all back
• 39:37
  Speaker 17: to the future I don't remember the 80s, but I
• 39:40
  Speaker 17: know that's the first movie I saw on VHS.
• 39:41
  Speaker 13: But see, that's why I threw it out there, because
• 39:44
  Speaker 13: you were saying that you didn't really remember that much,
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: and I wanted to find out what stuck out for you.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I just know that that, because I looked it up.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: But it's funny, he's like 85.
• 39:52
  Speaker 13: I mean, that's very much as John Hughes or it'll
• 39:55
  Speaker 13: be like, you know, Pee Wee or The Goonies or
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: just the.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Stuff that's gone.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: See, I don't, at this point.
• 40:02
  Speaker 17: I don't think of what I originally thought of. I
• 40:05
  Speaker 17: think of what they market as 80s. See, when you
• 40:08
  Speaker 17: say The Goonies, I didn't care about The Goonies at
• 40:10
  Speaker 17: the time. But now everybody goes on and on about
• 40:14
  Speaker 17: it and always did. But like now it's like marketed
• 40:16
  Speaker 17: as an 80s thing. And that's what I think of
• 40:19
  Speaker 17: because it wasn't.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm kind of.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I did.
• 40:22
  Speaker 13: I was saying that's what almost Fred was talking about.
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: And it's like, do you honestly think that when John
• 40:27
  Speaker 13: Hughes was making all these movies, you know, like Ferris
• 40:30
  Speaker 13: Bueller's Day Off, he was considering that they would have that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: Does anybody make movies to where they consider that it
• 40:36
  Speaker 13: will come back 20 years down the road?
• 40:39
  Speaker 17: No, but I think, again, I think it's because of
• 40:41
  Speaker 17: the way we're marketing it now. Because I don't think
• 40:44
  Speaker 17: we had that before the 80s. I don't think they
• 40:46
  Speaker 17: were like pigeonholing stuff.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: This is really 50s.
• 40:49
  Speaker 17: They were drawing from it, but they didn't market it like,
• 40:52
  Speaker 17: look at this from the 50s.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: We love the 50s. They didn't do that. But they
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: now sell things as 80s.
• 40:59
  Speaker 17: Styled you know they had that whole series of vhs
• 41:01
  Speaker 17: that were i love the 80s themed and they had
• 41:04
  Speaker 17: a separate cover for that whole series that they put
• 41:07
  Speaker 17: out and i think it's that kind of stuff that's
• 41:09
  Speaker 17: like giving us this identity and almost like overtaking what
• 41:14
  Speaker 17: people think of as the the way that they're marking.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: In it is taking over the way a lot of
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: people even remember.
• 41:19
  Speaker 13: It probably I guess the question is then, I guess
• 41:23
  Speaker 13: we could almost chew over it, and I almost think
• 41:25
  Speaker 13: it would kind of grow along with what Greg was saying,
• 41:27
  Speaker 13: it being the Lord of the Rings trilogy, as to
• 41:29
  Speaker 13: what movies would define the first decade of the 2000s.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And I couldn't think of anything on that.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I already talked about this once, because at the end
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: of that decade, everybody was doing the best movies of
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the decade, and none of them hit the spot for me,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and eventually I thought, aha, This was the decade of
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the HBO series.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 41:55
  Speaker 17: That's something that came along that we never had before.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: That's really what defines the decade more than any one movie.
• 42:02
  Speaker 13: It seemed to also be the rebirth of the superhero movie, too.
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: Because suddenly it was Spider-Man, X-Men, Daredevil. All of them
• 42:08
  Speaker 13: just sprung out of nowhere, too, starting in 2000.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Sadly, it's also been... birth of torture porn.
• 42:15
  Speaker 16: Like, that's not something that existed beforehand. It's like the
• 42:18
  Speaker 16: slasher film of the.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Are you sure that didn't exist before?
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Not like that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Starting with Saw.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: The 70s was more like the era of... revenge films
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: there was a lot.
• 42:31
  Speaker 15: Of those i think 10 years from now we'll definitely
• 42:33
  Speaker 15: see like this decade as the return to 3d movies
• 42:37
  Speaker 15: i mean that's unmistakable.
• 42:38
  Speaker 17: I guess but that seems like it's already so passe already.
• 42:42
  Speaker 13: That's what makes it so i guess yeah probably like
• 42:47
  Speaker 13: the judd apatow influenced films might be considered the equivalent
• 42:51
  Speaker 13: of the john.
• 42:51
  Speaker 17: Hughes yeah that's at least a big enough thing.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can see people already trying to do
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: those by the numbers.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: It's a trend.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Has anybody seen Perks of Being a Wallflower? Yes. That
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: made me so angry.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Did you like it?
• 43:06
  Speaker 16: Because I felt like it was one of those movies
• 43:07
  Speaker 16: that was so self-consciously striving to be iconic that it
• 43:10
  Speaker 16: was so insincere, like every scene, oh God, we're about
• 43:13
  Speaker 16: to get into it.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Excellent. We need a film.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Have you read the book?
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I have read the book. I will tell you how
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: I read the book.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: When I was in college.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: My laundromat was right next to a bookstore.
• 43:30
  Speaker 16: And so occasionally I would go into the bookstore and
• 43:32
  Speaker 16: I would find a book that seemed slight and substantial,
• 43:36
  Speaker 16: not really worthy of my time, that I would read
• 43:38
  Speaker 16: while I was doing my laundry. And I saw this
• 43:41
  Speaker 16: MTV Presents book, and I said, MTV has a publishing house?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: And that's unfortunate, but... I can read.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: This while I do my laundry.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: And I did.
• 43:51
  Speaker 16: And I was like, well, that was insubstantial and a
• 43:54
  Speaker 16: waste of my two hours.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: It does only.
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: Take two hours to read, though.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: And I've never liked it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 16: It concerned and confounded me when all of a sudden
• 44:04
  Speaker 16: it was a classic that people were embracing. And then
• 44:07
  Speaker 16: I felt that the movie so needed to be that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, go.
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: How old were you when you read it?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't read it as a 14-year-old boy.
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: I read it when I was 17 for the first time.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: And I absolutely loved it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: I was on the tail end of high school, and
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: so it's kind of that kind of thing. And I
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: was kind of an awkward teenager, not necessarily that bad.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I was a Mormon.
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: I wasn't going around hanging out with people who were
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: smoking pot and making out with dudes.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Like Richard Belzer.
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the book
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: really appealed to me. the book really appealed to me
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: on an emotional level. And so for a couple of years, um,
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: like if I was having like a bad time in
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: my life, I would read it. It took a day
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: or two hours. Um, and, and so when the movie
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: came out, I was really hesitant because the trailer frankly
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: looked like shit, but I was pleased that Chbosky who
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: wrote the book wrote and directed the movie. And so
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: I went to see it and gave it a chance.
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: And I really liked it because it's, it's a really
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: good adaptation of the book. Um, And so it evoked
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: a lot of those same emotions. So I guess for me,
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: a lot of it's kind of a nostalgia thing. My
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: only fault with the movie was when I see movies
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: based on books, I try not to compare it too
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: much because that just drives you crazy. And it had
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: been a long time since I read it, so I
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: wasn't too distracted by that. But thinking about it after,
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: I remember all this stuff that got left out. That
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: was good stuff and important stuff and things that had
• 45:47
  Speaker 9: been kind of toned down. And I realized that's because
• 45:49
  Speaker 9: they needed to keep it at a PG 13 level
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: because they're trying to reach a specific audience. And so
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: you can't have the abortion in there. You can't have
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: the rape scene in there. Um, and that's unfortunate, but
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: then that just got me pissed off at the rating
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: system and that we have kind of this form of
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: censorship through that. And so it kind of, it all
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: turned into this other weird thing for me, but I
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: liked the movie a lot. And, um, that shot of, um,
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: Emma Watson in the back of the truck.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: That's the scene that made me the angriest.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: She is so beautiful in that scene.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: But I felt like you were.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Like, kids are going to love this.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: This scene is going to live forever.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: We are infinite.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: It's going to.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Be like the say anything John Q said.
• 46:32
  Speaker 16: Yes.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I felt like it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 16: Was so striving for that in such a shameless way
• 46:37
  Speaker 16: that it broke my heart.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't anything.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: I guess for me, that's just because the book to
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: me was just so genuine and so important to me.
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: and that the movie was obviously made with the same
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: level of care and devotion, because the book wasn't written
• 46:52
  Speaker 9: just as a, I'm going to be sensationalistic, putting all
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: this stuff about drugs and sex and Rocky Horror Picture Show.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: He was reaching a certain audience and being successful, and
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: I felt like the movie was just kind of an
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: extension of that.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I won't take that away from you.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't.
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: No.
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: So like i understand though why you might why you
• 47:15
  Speaker 12: have your opinion i don't know i don't know how
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: i would feel about it if i hadn't read the
• 47:19
  Speaker 12: book if i had no context other than going to
• 47:21
  Speaker 12: see this movie but i thought it was a pretty
• 47:23
  Speaker 12: solid movie regardless.
• 47:24
  Speaker 17: In 2022 we'll think back and that's what we'll think
• 47:29
  Speaker 17: That will represent all of.
• 47:30
  Speaker 15: The plan, apparently.
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: So I've gotten in fights with two of you now
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: about movies that I liked and you didn't.
• 47:36
  Speaker 16: The thing that did make me really scared about that film, though,
• 47:39
  Speaker 16: and now I'm totally dating myself, is that in 1989,
• 47:43
  Speaker 16: a film called 1969 came out.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody saw that film. I've seen
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: that one.
• 47:47
  Speaker 16: Yes, with Winona Ryder.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Because it would have Winona Ryder.
• 47:50
  Speaker 16: Yeah, and I remember watching it as a 13-year-old and thinking,
• 47:54
  Speaker 16: oh my God, 20 years ago was like so long.
• 47:59
  Speaker 16: Who are these people that can remember this totally alternate
• 48:02
  Speaker 16: world that existed then? And there are people walking on
• 48:05
  Speaker 16: this planet who were there.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: And remember that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 16: And this film came out in 2012 and is about
• 48:11
  Speaker 16: essentially 92, right?
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my God, kids that are
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: watching this.
• 48:15
  Speaker 16: Now are having the same relationship with this movie that's
• 48:18
  Speaker 16: about me in high school that I, oh shit, right?
• 48:21
  Speaker 17: Well, that did seem like such a lot, because I
• 48:23
  Speaker 17: remember watching that at the time, and it seemed like
• 48:26
  Speaker 17: such a long time ago.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: It was history.
• 48:30
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: But I don't feel like that.
• 48:32
  Speaker 17: And again, maybe it's just time's changing the way it does,
• 48:35
  Speaker 17: or maybe it always feels like that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: But I mean, it doesn't.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I think that's what it feels.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Like to get old.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It just speeds up.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it is.
• 48:41
  Speaker 16: It becomes less of a.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons they think that is, is
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: actually because when you're in school, it The sheer boredom
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: slows the years down.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with the ratio of your
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: life passing.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: It really has nothing to do with that. It's just
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you're in school all day. And it makes time seem longer.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: That's actually one of the theories I've read why that is.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: It's not anything else.
• 49:09
  Speaker 16: But when you're 12, a year is the 12th of
• 49:12
  Speaker 16: your life.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: When you're 36, a year is the 36th of your life.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: So you're like, meh.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: That's nothing. That's a way to put it. Every year
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: is short.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, while he was talking, I thought, yeah, the 2000s
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: are going to be things like Harry Potter. It's such
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: a huge part of it, especially the kids that are
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: forming when they look back 20.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Years from now. From the kids' perspective, I think it
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: is so huge.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Kids grow up. Baby Harry Potter kids were amazing. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: things like, I think, Napoleon Dynamite.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: I'm sure in 15 years, some kid's going to have
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: a Vote for Pedro shirt.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 49:53
  Speaker 13: They're still going around now.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: It's so retro.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: 15 years from now, it's going to blow up, and
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: people are going to think it's... Because it's genuinely good.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: Oh, it is.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: No, it's a great movie.
• 50:04
  Speaker 13: You know, it's almost there if you think about it, because,
• 50:06
  Speaker 13: I mean, it's been eight years since that came out.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Time is speeding up.
• 50:12
  Speaker 13: So somebody who might have been 10 about then is
• 50:14
  Speaker 13: about 18 now.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah this juncture so no a friend of mine
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: yesterday yeah a.
• 50:20
  Speaker 19: Friend of mine posted um um at the beginning of
• 50:24
  Speaker 19: the school year about college freshmen he said to college
• 50:27
  Speaker 19: freshmen starting this year kurt cobain's always been dead yeah
• 50:32
  Speaker 19: that's just great it blew my mind i was like
• 50:34
  Speaker 19: oh my god it blew my mind i i.
• 50:37
  Speaker 17: Uh Well, they were talking about the date of, again,
• 50:41
  Speaker 17: the Internet. I mean, kids now, there has always been
• 50:45
  Speaker 17: an Internet. I mean, it was like the 90s it
• 50:49
  Speaker 17: came about. So all these kids going into college now
• 50:51
  Speaker 17: have always had access to the Internet.
• 50:54
  Speaker 16: But people in my father's generation thought, oh, my God,
• 50:55
  Speaker 16: these kids now, they've always had television.
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: There was never a time before television.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: It's always kind of like that, I guess.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: But even kids like my kids' age... They grew up
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: so that by the time they would be getting on
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: a computer, it was there.
• 51:10
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It was just, you know.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: You just had one sitting around the house. Like a TV.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You had your own phone. There were phones. My daughter
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: plays Photoshop. Not Photoshop.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: A PowerPoint. She makes PowerPoint presentations.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: She makes something and she'll draw it and she'll animate
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: it and make a movie that you hit the space
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: bar and it does a whole thing. scene and she
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: has text and it's like a book that you read
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: and um you know she has her side of the
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: computer and my side of the computer mine's the only
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: one that has powerpoint so i'll get on there and
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: scroll through them and they're they're fantastic and she knows
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: more stuff about you know she's nine more stuff about
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: powerpoint than i do and.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I've had a class on.
• 51:51
  Speaker 13: It i've had this great moment just you know you
• 51:53
  Speaker 13: say my daughter likes powerpoint so you get home So
• 51:57
  Speaker 13: how was your day, honey?
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: And she just boots up this PowerPoint. It's just like
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: being in a corporate meeting. You're looking at your watch.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: They've tested and found that PowerPoint makes experts laymen. They've
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: done tests with like they present stats on college players
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: like what their stats are to average people and to
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: recruiters who are trained to look at the stats for
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: players that they're recruiting. And when you give them a
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: PowerPoint presentation, it levels the groups out to where they're
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: both about the same. There's something about dressing it up
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: in PowerPoint that makes them seem like they're better players,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: no matter what the stats are.
• 52:50
  Speaker 13: They've got a presentation. There's something about that.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And the other thing that it did when it first
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: came out was you suddenly had high-powered decision makers sitting
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: around deciding what font to use. Things that were all
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: done by secretaries in the old days suddenly you've got
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: like a CEO going, impact.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Impact. it's alright it's not the way I would go
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: but it's alright so much of.
• 53:22
  Speaker 15: My life is powerpoint it's really sad really I just
• 53:26
  Speaker 15: realized that and it's like everyone thinks that powerpoint is
• 53:29
  Speaker 15: boring but I'm like yeah powerpoint day.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: This morning she was going can I play on powerpoint
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: not again but and they're almost always funny too she
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: made one with cause she made you know it was
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: the news of the day yesterday it was the earthquake
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: so she had all these pictures of earth and It
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: had a face, and then it went to one that
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: was cracked, and then it was.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know how she does it.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: It's some kind of animation that it shakes the whole screen.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: It was kind of amusing.
• 53:57
  Speaker 13: This episode of Movie Meltdown has been brought to you
• 54:00
  Speaker 13: by Microsoft.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: And by an earthquake. And the number seven.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: By the number earthquake. 4.3.
• 54:08
  Speaker 17: 4.3?
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Sorry about causing it.
• 54:15
  Speaker 13: Well, now that Alan has left, go ahead and tell
• 54:18
  Speaker 13: us exactly what you think about Perks of Fear.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: How wrong is he?
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I saw you reach over there when he wasn't looking
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and take that away from him. You faked him out.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: You said, I won't take that away from you. He's like,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: you can't. And you're like, right.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I saw you grab the fork on the table.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: It's always going to be like, fuck you. he can't
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: he can't rob.
• 54:42
  Speaker 13: Me it's gonna be like when you all did the
• 54:45
  Speaker 13: commentary for my movie and I came back and I
• 54:48
  Speaker 13: listened to it and I was like oh god damn
• 54:53
  Speaker 13: it I can't wait hey.
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: Hey I went to the bathroom you guys we didn't
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: even notice or say anything What happened?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and listen to it. We
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: just clarified on how good a movie is, and we
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: left it at that. Which one? And by good, we
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: mean bad. Biodome. It's really good. You know, I really
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: enjoyed Biodome. Curly Sue, actually.
• 55:19
  Speaker 13: We were talking about John Hughes, and we were going
• 55:22
  Speaker 13: on about how that's John Hughes' best.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a swan song, really.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't made anything for a while, huh?
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: He should work with John Kennedy.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: This is really awkward, but.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: They used to work together all the time. This is
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: really awkward, but.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: It's not really that awkward.
• 55:36
  Speaker 15: But when I was little, I used to get into
• 55:38
  Speaker 15: arguments with people. Like, it would be Bill Murray and, like,
• 55:42
  Speaker 15: Jim Belushi, whichever one's still alive.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Jim.
• 55:52
  Speaker 15: I used to get into arguments with people, like... I
• 55:54
  Speaker 15: couldn't tell them apart.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: That's unfortunate.
• 55:57
  Speaker 15: I know, which is so sad to me now because
• 55:59
  Speaker 15: I love Bill Murray. Bill Murray is serious. Jim Belushi,
• 56:03
  Speaker 15: he does a shitty sitcom where.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: He's an asshole.
• 56:06
  Speaker 15: But I mean, when I was little, in the movie
• 56:09
  Speaker 15: Curly Sue, I couldn't tell you who's in it because
• 56:11
  Speaker 15: I was so hung up on thinking that those two
• 56:13
  Speaker 15: people were the same.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: And I was a child, but I would fight people
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: over this.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: It's like the Bill Pullman, Bill Paxton argument.
• 56:22
  Speaker 17: I don't get that other than the name, because they're
• 56:26
  Speaker 17: so different as authors.
• 56:27
  Speaker 13: Marlena, she's also got this ability, too, to where she
• 56:29
  Speaker 13: thinks that all middle-aged black women are Timothy Dalton.
• 56:33
  Speaker 15: No, but there is a guy that I work with
• 56:36
  Speaker 15: named Nick. Every time I'm at Target and I hear.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: She just keeps walking up to him and says, hello.
• 56:40
  Speaker 15: There's this guy I work with, Nick, and every time
• 56:45
  Speaker 15: I'm at Target and there's like an old black lady
• 56:47
  Speaker 15: talking like two aisles over.
• 56:48
  Speaker 13: I'm like, Nick!
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, you're an old black lady,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: not Nick at all.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: That's so sad for Nick. It is.
• 56:56
  Speaker 13: I think you're the best bond.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I don't really do that, but I do, like I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: get obsessed with, who does that person slightly resemble when
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: they do that one thing? And I was watching The
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Beginners the other night because my daughter wanted to watch it,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: and then she put it in, and she said, oh,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: we tried to watch this one night. I'm like, I
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: don't remember it. But then they get to a scene
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: where they're at a party, and he's dressed like Freud.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, Beginners?
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, you said The Beginners. Did I say, oh.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like the rope.
• 57:29
  Speaker 17: Beginners.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: The Mike Mills one with the immigration.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Yeah, so it's Shoshana, and... and Sigmund Freud
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: are at this party, and I'm watching Shoshana, and I'm like,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: what is going on with her? And I figured it out. It's,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: what's her name? Bob Newhart's wife. What's her name? Somebody
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: help me out. Suzanne Plachette. Suzanne Plachette. You watch her face,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: like about every 15 seconds, Suzanne Plachette.
• 58:03
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: It's like magic.
• 58:06
  Speaker 17: Yep.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, if you remember that Thanksgiving
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: episode we did about... Not at this point.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: It's been so long ago.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: There's a guy, the guy in that movie, he does
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: an Arnold thing every now and then.
• 58:19
  Speaker 15: Why are the windows shaking?
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Is it the wind? Because there's like a weird earthquake.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: It's an earthquake.
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: I really have been paranoid that there's going to be
• 58:27
  Speaker 15: another earthquake.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I've seen one from in here and that's what it does.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I remember the last one, my boy woke up and
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: he thought, everything's shaking and then he thought it's probably
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: just an earthquake and he went back to bed actually.
• 58:45
  Speaker 13: I always lie to my students in case you haven't
• 58:47
  Speaker 13: figured this out but after the earthquake back in what
• 58:51
  Speaker 13: was it like 2007 or something where we had that
• 58:55
  Speaker 13: students asked me they were like Mr. Callens do you
• 58:58
  Speaker 13: feel the earthquake today there wasn't an earthquake today yeah
• 59:01
  Speaker 13: there was no you didn't read the news Or you
• 59:05
  Speaker 13: didn't see the news?
• 59:06
  Speaker 16: No.
• 59:07
  Speaker 13: Apparently there was some nuclear power plant up in Illinois
• 59:11
  Speaker 13: that just had a meltdown. Like, the entire town is
• 59:14
  Speaker 13: just decimated. And, no, there was no earthquake. That was
• 59:19
  Speaker 13: just us feeling the shock waves. You didn't hear about this?
• 59:23
  Speaker 21: No.
• 59:24
  Speaker 17: Oh, yeah.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: You should go check it out when you get home.
• 59:27
  Speaker 15: Your students are not going to trust anything they've learned
• 59:29
  Speaker 15: in your class.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: No, actually, that's one thing I tell them.
• 59:31
  Speaker 13: It's like, you know, when you go to a job,
• 59:34
  Speaker 13: you aren't going to use chemical names or anything like that,
• 59:36
  Speaker 13: but you are going to have to be less gullible.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Than you are right now.
• 59:41
  Speaker 13: So my goal is for you to be less gullible
• 59:44
  Speaker 13: when you leave my class.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Than when you came in.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Do you do the classics, like, you know, taking the
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: word gullible out of the dictionary? And my wife goes, why?
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: You sometimes say it.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Somebody wrote gullible on the ceiling.
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: Have you ever actually wrote gullible on the ceiling and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: then told somebody? No, they refuse to look. That's really annoying, actually.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: It's like it's there.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 15: Once I told someone, if you say gullible really slowly,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 15: it sounds like oranges. And she was like, gullible.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Gullible.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, I get it. The sad part is she didn't
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: get it. Yeah.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 15: It's probably not.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: You just pretend at that point.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 13: But she got thirsty.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: For some orange juice.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 15: Kind of like the guy that I used to work
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 15: with who used to tell the brown chicken brown cow joke,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 15: but he didn't get it at all. He just like,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 15: he knew it made people laugh, but he didn't understand
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 15: the punchline.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Like Rain Man.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: He's just, he was hung first. It's, You don't even
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: know it's a joke.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 13: Or like when a blind person smiles at a comic strip,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 13: they know there's something funny there and everyone else is laughing,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 13: but they don't want to seem like they don't get it.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: That sort of thing.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 15: Huh?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Somebody told them.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: How do they know?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: I used to pretend when I couldn't read. I used
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: to pretend I'd open up the comics. My dad would
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: be reading the paper. I'd pretend to read it and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: then laugh at the end. And then he'd go, oh,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: what was that one? And I'd say, oh, read it,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: you know, so that you can get the joke too.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, no, no, read it out loud.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: It's funnier.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: So that he'd then read it, because he was busy
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: reading his paper. It was my way of getting him
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: to read it, because I couldn't read it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 13: And that's the story as to how Greg fell in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 13: love with Apartment 3G. He laughed at it every single day.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, that Mary Worth is giving him a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: run for their money.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Rex Morgan's better than Garfield. Rex Morgan is so funny.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: When I was a baby, my parents lived in a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: little burger place. an apartment up over a little burger place.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I thought you said a burglar place. No, they lived
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: in a little apartment over a burger place at the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: foot of the hill at Western. And they'd have their
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: friends come over, and they'd talk about politics and literature,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and they'd sit around. And I'd be in my playpen,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: and they'd laugh, and I'd laugh too. I'd clap my
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: hands without missing. I'd be in there laughing.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: This was last week too, actually.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: And then one day I realized... After a moment, I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: realized that they were laughing harder and they were laughing
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: at me and pointing at me. It's the most embarrassing
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: thing in my life. Still last week.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 13: So your first memory is from five months old and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 13: it's being mocked.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm just trying to be sociable and pleasant.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: But really, I was hungry and my diaper's soaking, but
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, ha, ha, ha. They're mocking me. That's terrible.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: You guys are horrible parents.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Actually, that place at the foot of the hill is
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: like directly across from the house where John Carpenter's parents lived.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: At that time, this is weird, but the Kentucky Museum
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: has that building now. But it's like a log cabin.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: But at that time, it was faculty housing. And his
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: parents lived in that house, which is like a little
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: slightly refurnished log house at the foot of the hill, western.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: And there was a big ginkgo tree in front of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the burger place, but it was like the wrong kind.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: It was the kind that smells horrible. But that's gone now.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Is the burger place still there?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: No. I don't know what it is now. It's something,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: but it's not a burger parlor. You can say that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: about anything, is that it's something. Yeah, it's something. The
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: building is still there. I know they've got a Panda Express,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: so it might be that. I don't know.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: It sucks.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 13: The mystique of your childhood is now ruined by some
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 13: woman standing on a corner going sample, sample, sample, sample, sample.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. That whole town is just so different from
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: what it was because like the mall is gone. They
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: had the old mall there and it's not even a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: mall anymore. It's like, part of the college or research facility.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: That was the mall. And then later they built like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: dueling malls out off on either side of Scottsville road.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: And they're just staring at each other.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 13: Um, it's like a green tree and river falls.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't work out.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: The old mall in Bowling Green, there was a cave
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: back behind it. And that's where we as young potheads
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: would go down into that cave. And we would try
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: to come out at lost river cave. And last time,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: they reopened Lost River Cave, and I took my kids there.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: And I told a guy there, yeah, when I was
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: a kid and this stuff was closed down, we used
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: to always go back here, and we'd try to go
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: from one cave to the other. And we'd be back there,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: and we'd think we were someplace nobody had ever been.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: And we'd turn a corner, and there'd be like an
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: archaeology table sitting up on a rock. Well, there might
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: as well have been a fucking Volkswagen parked there. It
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: just ruined it for us. And we'd get so far back.
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  Speaker 1: that the water would rise up and the ceiling would
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  Speaker 1: come down, and we'd just smoke pot and dare each
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  Speaker 1: other to go see if that opened up in a
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  Speaker 1: few feet. Like, you ought to go in there. But
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the guy at Lost River said it can be done.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: The two caves do connect.
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  Speaker 13: So you said that, and at first you said, you know,
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  Speaker 13: there was this mall and there used to be a cave.
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  Speaker 13: And I thought you would just leave off there, and
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  Speaker 13: I just had this great mental image. Oh, they opened
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  Speaker 13: up a new cave over at Oxmoor Mall. Have you
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 13: been in it?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: It goes down deep, real deep. Well, not everybody knew
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: about the cave. And Lost River Cave had been like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: a venue for traveling bands in the 20s, like swing bands.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: And they had a dance floor there, like my wife's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: mother remembers going to dances there. But in the 70s...
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: So that's awesome. It's like the... Yeah. When I was
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: a kid, though, it was closed down and there was
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: no trespassing. And later I read a book and found
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: out the reason was there were pollutants in the water
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: at about the time we were waiting in it. up
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to our necks, and using it for bong water.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: This all starts to make sense now.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 13: It's a good thing you weren't eating turkey while you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 13: were doing that, because remember when we had that Thanksgiving
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 13: episode a while back, that was like the plot of
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 13: Blood Freak.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, that's... One of you had
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: been to Vietnam. That was even, like, that's so irrelevant,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: because that was already dead before that even happened. Because
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I had a In third grade,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: a reading project where we were supposed to do a diorama,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: and I didn't know what I was doing, but some
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: teacher said, oh, you could take a box and you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: could find little things that looked like things. And she
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: took like a spool and made a table and then
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: got a hairnet and put a spider web over it,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: and it became this creepy, haunted thing. I'm like, okay.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: And I kept finding things, and I did it, and
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I won. And I didn't even have a book. They
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: asked me, what book is this? And I'm like, ghost
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: stories of somewhere.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 14: And I made something up, and I won. And then
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 14: the next year, like fourth grade, I thought, oh, they're doing...
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 14: I didn't even know it was a contest. I didn't
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 14: know people won these things. So the next year, I
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 14: looked up how they make dioramas at, like, the Smithsonian.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 14: And what they do is they take.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: And then they take some, oh, like that Brillo pad stuff,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: steel wool, and they wrap it, and they make these figures,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: and then they take plaster, and they take asbestos. Powdered asbestos.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 10: Powdered asbestos.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: You could not get powdered asbestos at the local hardware
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: store back in the 70s. You could get sheet asbestos
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: in a grinder.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: And I did it. And I made this little, I
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: think it was like the day Blackbeard got killed. And
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I read the book. I read all about it. And
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: I made the figures. And I took wood and I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: made the strips of the boat. And I tried to
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: get like the soldier's uniforms accurate. But it was like
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: the Addams Family because it was just bloody as hell.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: And I did not win. A girl I knew, Brookie,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: had a box full of Barbies. to represent little women.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And one of them, I clearly remember, was wearing a
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: white dress with boop-boop beads.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: So but the little.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Uh flower sifter that i used like after i.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 20: Ground up the asbestos i think it sat in my
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 20: room until i started using it to take twigs and
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 20: seeds oh this so makes.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Sense Yeah, I don't think I ever.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Took it out and rinsed it off.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I think I put it in a drawer. And then
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: later I thought, hey, there's that thing in that drawer
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: over there.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 20: Get these damn seeds and stems.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to the cave, man.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Want to go back to the cave? I just got.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: These seeds and twigs out. Let's climb back in there. No,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: we don't need to take bong water.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: There's... Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 7: It's all true.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. It's all completely true.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: It explains so much.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: Oh, God.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: How did this story come about again?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: I completely lost the thread. There are so many threads.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what movie that is. So many threads.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Blood Freak.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Blood Freak is spiraling off the road, hitting a tree,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: careening down into a cave.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I don't know.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 16: God.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Can we just do a Fred therapy podcast?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: That's called Boogie Meltdown.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I think we just did. I think I retire now.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 15: The meltdown part.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: It happens every time.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 15: I just now realize how appropriately.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Named this show is. Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 15: Every year is a meltdown of the focus.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: The basics.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 17: Structure of the show completely melts down somewhere in the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 17: middle of it.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: It occurred to me quite a while ago.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: The very title legitimizes it, though.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Smart thinking. Smart.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Planning ahead on that.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: See, you had your petroleum working good.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 15: We set up to start talking about movies and then
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 15: it just devolves into this... I don't even know what
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 15: you would call it.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Entertainment.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 8: Oh, God.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: So do you think you could sue the The Smithsonian
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Institute for Giving a Child the Idea. That's a book
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: in the public library. Probably not nowadays. Yeah, just go
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: out and get you some asbestos and mix that shit
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: in with some plaster and you're in business. Make sure
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: you breathe it in when you write it down. Inhale deeply.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. I don't know what else to do. That's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: a capper.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: I think we need to wrap this one up.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 16: I think the quote for this one is, but I
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 16: was already dead before that.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Before that ever happened, I was already dead. I was
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: already dead.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 17: Oh, God.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I'll listen to the whole thing.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: In over several weeks.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 13: I'm going to listen to find out what happened while
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 13: I was in the back.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Just because we know we're working it up towards.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 13: We're working it up towards Fred dying.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Just name the episode you must listen all the way
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: to the end.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: And people won't even download it.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: No, name it Fred Dies at the End.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Fred had already died at the end.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Why Fred's already dead.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: It is funny.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: It is funny. And the fact that it didn't dawn
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: on you until years later. It dawned on me in degrees.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: One day, there's like a little book about Lost River
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Cave by the phone at my mom's.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, look at that. Chemicals in the water.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know where, but, yeah, no, I was
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: already dead.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: I see you're getting it mixed up.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Time sequence.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Same geek time, same geek feed.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 17: Thanks for hanging in there, Jesus Christ.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: It was a perfect place It had a perfect.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: Face I seemed to have so much time Now the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: place was mine With the backyard too And the sky
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: started blue I seemed to.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Have so much time.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: Now the walls are just blue.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Memories spring into mind Maybe I could have been blind
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: But my love was so true For the place I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: once knew I seemed to have so much time You
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: know the.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 18: Place could have been mine With asbestos all around With
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 18: asbestos all around In the air and on the ground.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Loverful, I'd never fought Now I'm scared to go out.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: It was the perfect place Oh Didn't have so much
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: fun Didn't have no place for us to run.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 9: I defended myself against two people.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: You didn't defend yourself very well when you weren't in
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: the room.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 17: If you just didn't like things that they don't like,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 17: do you just have to like everything that everybody else likes?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: There's no thinking for yourself.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 9: It's not my fault that I feel things and y'all don't.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Stop revealing things!
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: It's not my fault I'm a fucking human.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 8: Produced and edited by The Oddity Studios. With opening music
• 1:17:09
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• 1:17:12
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• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: Talk hard!