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Is This a Good Idea? · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: I have no idea if it's a good idea or not.
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  Speaker 1: It's one more.
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  Speaker 2: Thing I'm strong and getty, one more thing.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up with an idea for the podcast today, I
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  Speaker 3: mentioned I'm in the mood to overshare, so I will
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  Speaker 3: probably regret it. I'll probably regret it at some point.
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  Speaker 3: But during before we started, Joe mentioned Joe said I
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  Speaker 3: need a haircut. Joe, Joe said he needs a haircut.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I rarely comment on other people's eat. For a haircut,
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  Speaker 4: you need a I leave it to them.
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  Speaker 2: And Jack getting a haircut would be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which reminded me.
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  Speaker 3: I took both my kids for haircuts on Saturday, and
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  Speaker 3: they both have fabulous hair. They got their mom's hair.
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  Speaker 3: They're very lucky because she's got great hair and uh,
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, you know, going through the book and
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  Speaker 3: picking out which haircut they want, everything like.
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  Speaker 1: And I never had that in my life. Never, never,
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  Speaker 1: one day in my.
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  Speaker 3: Life did I ever have a choice of what my
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  Speaker 3: hair was going to look like, even when I was
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  Speaker 3: a kid.
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  Speaker 1: So I just say, they must be of fun.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe that's why I like, Maybe that's why I
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  Speaker 3: care about other aspects of fashion is because I've never
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  Speaker 3: had the opportunity to have different hair fashions.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been a long hair much of my life
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  Speaker 4: and I would like to be even now. But I
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  Speaker 4: have tom petty hair. It just hangs straight down. It
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  Speaker 4: curls a little bit as it gets long, but it
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  Speaker 4: just looks terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Big hair is coming back. Can you put a lot
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  Speaker 3: of product in it and make it big somehow?
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  Speaker 4: What a fair amound? How much product is enough?
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna go big hair because I've seen I've seen
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  Speaker 3: more and more women with the big hair Katie.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, it's a lot of work to get mine to
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  Speaker 2: be big hair. Yeah, I have kind of similar hair
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  Speaker 2: to Joe. It just isn't doesn't have the volume that
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  Speaker 2: I want.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of how you look to my overshare of the day,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I've mentioned this on the air. So
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  Speaker 3: I started using testosterone treatment year and.
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  Speaker 1: A half ago.
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  Speaker 4: So long ago?
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  Speaker 3: Huh yeah, year and a half two, something like it. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: it's been quite a while, it's been two years. Definitely
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  Speaker 3: been two years. And I have no idea if this
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  Speaker 3: is a good idea. Now I'm going to my regular,
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  Speaker 3: my actual real doctor today and I'm going to talk to
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  Speaker 3: him about it a little bit. But the way, so
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  Speaker 3: I knew a couple of people who are I thought
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  Speaker 3: they were taking steroids or something like that, and it
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  Speaker 3: turned out they were just doing testosterone. But the thing
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  Speaker 3: that sold me on it as a guy in his
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  Speaker 3: mid fifties when I was talking to them was they said,
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  Speaker 3: you feel like you're thirty again. And I like the
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  Speaker 3: idea of that because I was feeling really lethartic.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm the control group I have. I believe no
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  Speaker 4: testosteron and I could probably lactate. I mean, no energy,
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  Speaker 4: no will, no drive, just terrible. I'm a slug of a.
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  Speaker 3: Man, and more so than anything else, especially at the
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  Speaker 3: time that I was talking about this, I just liked
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  Speaker 3: the idea of having some freaking energy again or any strength.
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  Speaker 1: I was getting weaker by the day anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So a friend of mine who had been doing it
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  Speaker 3: suggested to me, And so they got these I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna say, fake doctors. I shouldn't say that. One I sued,
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  Speaker 3: and two they're real doctors. I'm sure they've just decided
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  Speaker 3: to use their medical school in doctor's license to work
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  Speaker 3: for you know, something other than a hospital. And you go, well,
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  Speaker 3: the bottom five percent of their class has to do something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's it or if it's I
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  Speaker 3: actually don't know. I'm the slightest idea a text or email.
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  Speaker 3: If you know anything about this? Who goes to start
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  Speaker 3: to work for the kind of company where I've never
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  Speaker 3: seen one of these people in person. I've done a
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  Speaker 3: phone call with them that probably probably satisfies some government regulation. Right,
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  Speaker 3: they talked to me on the phone, so they can
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  Speaker 3: say they actually consulted me, eliminated.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of obvious don'ts. You know, if you have this,
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  Speaker 4: if you suffer from this, this is not a good
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  Speaker 4: idea for.
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  Speaker 1: You, right, And they do.
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  Speaker 3: They do get a blood sample, so they send you
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  Speaker 3: the kit to take your own blood and you mail
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  Speaker 3: it off to them, and I assume they actually look
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  Speaker 3: at at it and they and they figure out what
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  Speaker 3: your current level of your testosterone is.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just a knife and a bucket. Yeah, what's
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  Speaker 4: a knife and a bell jar? Right?
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  Speaker 1: You've never had that before.
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  Speaker 2: Where you take your own blood and send it somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: No, okay has done that a few.
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  Speaker 2: Times, like needle inject that type of Uh No, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was just a little clicker thing you put on your
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  Speaker 3: finger and Okay, it doesn't feel pleasant, but you hit
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  Speaker 3: the button.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, finger.
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  Speaker 3: Then you have to get a certain amount of it
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  Speaker 3: into a little thing, and then you may lost good.
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  Speaker 3: And again, I don't have the slightest idea if they
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  Speaker 3: actually look at it or.
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  Speaker 1: Just all the trash.
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  Speaker 4: Where are these clinics located? Jack?
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  Speaker 2: Is this some guy's garage or an actual medical building?
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  Speaker 2: Is this is a white van that said clinic.
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  Speaker 3: I actually don't know where it is I'm talking to
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to these people on the phone. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know where they were. So you do the consultant and
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  Speaker 3: they look you over, and there's a real Again, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know at all.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you do.
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  Speaker 3: There's a possibility they don't look at the blood at all.
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  Speaker 3: There's a possibility they run it through a lab and
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  Speaker 3: do all kinds of tests and turn people down.
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  Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's more likely that they don't look at
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  Speaker 3: anything and turns out you're a great candidate for our treatment.
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  Speaker 1: That costs.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of expensive. I think I'm paying one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and eighty a month or something. I mean, it's not cheap, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not horrible, though there are a lot of really popular
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  Speaker 4: pharmaceuticals that cost more than that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, skip into the bottom line. I look better with
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  Speaker 3: my shirt off than I ever have in my life
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  Speaker 3: at my current age. In my life I'm including when
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  Speaker 3: I was twenty five. I look better now than I
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  Speaker 3: ever have in my life. And that's one benefit is
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  Speaker 3: a single guy. Also, just the energy part, which is
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  Speaker 3: why I originally got into it. I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 3: thirty five. I just the amount of energy I have
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  Speaker 3: playing with the kids, riding bikes, doing things.
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  Speaker 4: It's awesome. Now that explains how you've been keeping with
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  Speaker 4: those kids like you have. I wondered, Yeah, is.
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  Speaker 3: That uh oh yeah, jumping on the trampoline, just doing
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  Speaker 3: whatever that I used to do, swimming the pool, playing games,
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  Speaker 3: all the stuff that I that I was kind of
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  Speaker 3: slowly getting away from. But I also don't know if
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  Speaker 3: I'm giving myself, you know, an early death or some
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  Speaker 3: sort of brain cancer or I have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: There are downsides, which I assume you've read up on.
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  Speaker 3: At least I've had zero downsides. I'm on a very
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  Speaker 3: minor right treatment.
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  Speaker 1: People.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people that are like super squol,
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  Speaker 3: they're going really big, and that that can do all
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  Speaker 3: kinds of stuff to you that I don't want to do.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm staying below the threshold for any like real
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  Speaker 3: real downsides.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a pill or is it an injection?
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  Speaker 3: It's a cream. You can do the I have a
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  Speaker 3: friend that some people do the injections. I can't stick
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  Speaker 3: a needle in me. Yeah, I can't do that. There's
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  Speaker 3: no way I'm sticking a needle in me. And I
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  Speaker 3: talked to my doctor about it once and he was
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  Speaker 3: fine with it, my real doctor, especially at the level
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  Speaker 3: that I was taking. But I had one more point
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna make. Oh here's an interesting thing that
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  Speaker 3: you might Should I share this or not?
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's fine, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Should I share this or not?
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  Speaker 4: I don't No, No.
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  Speaker 3: It's the podcast. Come on, you're right, it's the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: So you have males. I don't know if you know this, Katie.
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  Speaker 3: Males have testes. Oh and what your test he does
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  Speaker 3: is it produces testosterone. Well, if you're taking a testosterone supplement,
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  Speaker 3: your testes decide, I guess our work is done here,
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  Speaker 3: and they shrink up to nothing, slackers. They practically disappear
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  Speaker 3: from your body reasons, which is which is kind of weird.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm hearing this.
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  Speaker 3: But like I said, I feel better and look better
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  Speaker 3: than I ever have. I don't know if I feel
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  Speaker 3: better than I ever had my life. I felt pretty
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  Speaker 3: good when I was like a teenager and early twenties,
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  Speaker 3: but I look better and you know, so maybe my
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  Speaker 3: eyes fall out when I'm seventy years old, or ankles
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  Speaker 3: snapping two because my bones got thinner, or some crazy
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  Speaker 3: thing like that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm reading some of the pros and cons.
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  Speaker 1: There's cons to everything, sure exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I do know people though, that take it at a
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  Speaker 3: pretty high dose, and they like have the explosive anger
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  Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. I haven't had anything
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  Speaker 3: like that. That was one of the main reasons I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to stay really low level because I don't want
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  Speaker 3: any emotional nuttiness. I've had none of that, Thank god.
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  Speaker 2: Jack's new code name Raisins.
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  Speaker 3: Actually a buddy of mine. He started it on because
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  Speaker 3: he had cramps at night. He'd get cramps in his
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  Speaker 3: legs just all the time that would wake him up,
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  Speaker 3: horrible cramps, and he started taking it to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of those.
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  Speaker 1: Network.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the stuff that I'm the most would
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  Speaker 4: be the most concerned about, increased chance of a heart
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  Speaker 4: attack and stroke, thrombo embolism of potentially fatal type of
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  Speaker 4: blood clot. In twenty fourteen, the FDA ordered that a
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  Speaker 4: warning label must accompany the prescriptions alerting men blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: But more recent studies have failed to link it to
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  Speaker 4: an increase in cardiovascular events, at least for a two
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  Speaker 4: year period of treatment, and may actually be protective against
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  Speaker 4: developing diabetes for some men.
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  Speaker 1: Research is ongoing well.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, and if you've ever read much about the
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  Speaker 3: what it takes to qualify for a warning label, that's
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  Speaker 3: why every medicine you take lists one hundred different things
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  Speaker 3: that could give.
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  Speaker 2: You right and it ends with death.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, inclinding, sudden death, which is always the best.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm a feel calf of a man who can't
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  Speaker 4: wait to lie down, So maybe I'll take a look
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  Speaker 4: at this. Yeah, America love test us.
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  Speaker 3: I do know a guy who's taken so much he's swollen,
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  Speaker 3: but his blood pressure went way up.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that either.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, that's no good.
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  Speaker 3: Every once in a while I missed my testicles. We
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  Speaker 3: had a lot of good times together.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just I have nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're go ahead, Jack.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that was enough.
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  Speaker 2: Well, next episode, I'll talk about the pill I'm taking
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  Speaker 2: to treat my head lice.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you know what, Michael, before we get to that,
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  Speaker 4: I I just came across this. If you, uh, can
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  Speaker 4: I do anything to elevate my testosterone naturally? If you
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  Speaker 4: are overweight or obese, weight loss and perhaps especially exercise
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  Speaker 4: may help boost your levels without magic medication. I also
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  Speaker 4: remember a study that I brought up on the air
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  Speaker 4: that was really really interesting that was talking about how
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  Speaker 4: part of the problem with a veal caffe raising of kids,
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  Speaker 4: helicopter parenting, that sort of thing. The opposite of free
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  Speaker 4: range parenting is that kids don't face risk and resolution.
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  Speaker 4: They don't face any sort of even mild danger and
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  Speaker 4: the feeling of getting past that, you know, clearing those
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  Speaker 4: hurdles and thinking, you know, and I'm pretty good at that.
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  Speaker 4: And that's one of the reasons that it uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that sort of experience decreases your anxiety, it's confidence. In short,
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  Speaker 4: it also raises your testosterone right confronting uncertainty or if
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  Speaker 4: you will, danger And so I've just got to hire somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Never mind testosterone. I gotta hire somebody to periodically like
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  Speaker 4: release savage pit pulls that run at me. Yeah you
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  Speaker 4: are a lion or I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be easy.
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  Speaker 3: You find some hoble, you slip them with twenty say,
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  Speaker 3: every once in a while, jump out from behind the bushes,
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  Speaker 3: which sounds reasonable.
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  Speaker 4: Right, guy shows up, He adds me a big knife.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what's the story. You got a knife? I
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  Speaker 4: got a knife. Let's go, and then before you know it,
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  Speaker 4: I'll have the testosterone of a young man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's it.