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Contreras chucks bat, Royce Lewis remarks, Phillies flop, Cal hits 50! · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Day two in Alabama at the Pro. Look we've leveled up.
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  Speaker 1: That's how we start a show. Krat's good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: air conditioning real quick before we start, because we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna have time for this. But maybe we'll get him
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  Speaker 1: on next week. You know who player of the Week
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  Speaker 1: was in the American.
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  Speaker 3: League, Kyraw.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, no, we're gonna talk about him later. Then he
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  Speaker 1: passed Quentinosa last week.
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  Speaker 3: I'll see him on Saturday, so I'll make sure that
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  Speaker 3: he comes on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, te him. We said hellout last week. Six homers
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  Speaker 1: in seven games. That's good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's apparently a whole storyline with pass Quentino rumored. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't maybe there's articles about it. I haven't heard him
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  Speaker 1: on the record speak specifically to this, but we'll ask
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  Speaker 1: him about it. Where he was working on his swing
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: speed and then his swing was getting a little his
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  Speaker 1: timing was off because he was too early. Then he
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  Speaker 1: tried to slow the swing speed down and then that worked.
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  Speaker 4: But past Quentino, he's always been able to hit right
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  Speaker 4: ever since he was probably so he never had a
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  Speaker 4: prop that speed. So why are we now telling a
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  Speaker 4: guy he needs to swing faster when he's hitting the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Fine, he was.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how many homers he hit last year,
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  Speaker 4: but it was a fairly decent amount of homers he
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  Speaker 4: hit last year. Was in it at least in the twenties,
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  Speaker 4: wasn't it.
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  Speaker 1: I believe so. Plus the Ribbies I mean the overall
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  Speaker 1: numbers were I don't know what This year is great.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, now he's back on track. Is seven ninety
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  Speaker 1: eight ops, one twenty ops plus last year was one fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a jump up, jump up from last week,
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  Speaker 1: last year nineteen twenty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing fine.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty eight homers. But he did nothing for a couple months,
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  Speaker 1: and then he's been one of the best hitters in
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  Speaker 1: baseball for the last couple months.
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  Speaker 3: Stick with what you're doing, kid, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's working. So we'll try and get him pretty soon.
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  Speaker 1: But let's talk about the other team in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Missouri charge time. All right, guys, I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 1: you run with this. We're talking about a catcher and
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Wilson Contreras who lost his cool, got kicked out of
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  Speaker 1: the ball game last night and ended up getting so
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  Speaker 1: heated that he tossed his bat or chucked it, depending
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  Speaker 1: on how you look at things. Towards the ump, ended
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  Speaker 1: up hitting his hitting coach Brent Brown. He's like, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to hit, not that way. And then he
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  Speaker 1: also went into the dugout tossed the gum.
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  Speaker 4: I was not gonna tight you. There's a major difference whatever. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: it's not whatever, that's a huge difference.
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  Speaker 1: My main question is is he okay? Because this is
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  Speaker 1: a freak out that looked like he was possessed and
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna get some trouble here.
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  Speaker 4: Here's my question. The pitch was a strike. First of all,
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  Speaker 4: Let's let's just say it wasn't even really borderline. It
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  Speaker 4: was a pretty solid strike. And what Wilson said was
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  Speaker 4: I said, you need to call it both ways. For us,
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  Speaker 4: he had to have said more than that, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: like that, that's not an auto toss there, and he's
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  Speaker 4: not a catcher anymore so once he he's fighting for
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  Speaker 4: his pictures, which I like. But man, but then the
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  Speaker 4: question Cratsy is why is he throwing the bat at all? Like,
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  Speaker 4: even if he's throwing it at the umpire and Brent
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  Speaker 4: Brown's face got in the way of it, why are
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  Speaker 4: we throwing the bat at all?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 4: What has there ever been a point where you're like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna chuck my bat at the umpire? Like, unless
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  Speaker 4: you're Delman Young, right, I don't remember anybody ever throwing
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  Speaker 4: their bat at an umpire.
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  Speaker 3: Just a new trend? Is this a new trend?
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  Speaker 4: Though with Roblade throwing his bat at the picture. Now
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  Speaker 4: Control's thone it at the umpire.
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  Speaker 5: It like many trends. I would like that to stop,
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  Speaker 5: if it's a trend. Delman Young threw it at the umpire.
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  Speaker 5: He was a replacement umpire. Doesn't mean he should have
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  Speaker 5: done it, but no, I've never wanted to throw my
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  Speaker 5: bat at somebody. I've you know, I've seen the take
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  Speaker 5: your your jersey off on the field, lay your bat
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  Speaker 5: down at the plate and be like, well, hey you
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  Speaker 5: you swing. You know you're taking the bat out of
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  Speaker 5: my hands kind of thing. But he freaked out. Sometimes
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  Speaker 5: I wonder like, oh, you know, wait till you get
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  Speaker 5: in my way kind of thing. I'm glad Ali Marmle
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  Speaker 5: held him back there. I don't know what he would
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  Speaker 5: have done. I would have loved have known what the
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  Speaker 5: umpire said, but we'll never know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing. Will Macntreres, when he gets
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  Speaker 1: into issues, will lay out what happened afterward Home played
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  Speaker 1: umpire Derek Thomas was going back and forth with him
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, so I'm like, oh, maybe he said
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  Speaker 1: something that really got him, like something personal from what
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  Speaker 1: I saw from postgame quotes, nothing there. Wilson would tell
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  Speaker 1: you if he said something that was completely out of
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  Speaker 1: line or a personal attack. It seemed like he just
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  Speaker 1: was pissed at a called strike. That was a called strike.
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  Speaker 1: It was a strike, and then was pissed that he
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  Speaker 1: got tossed from the game. I'm like, Okay, you can't
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 3: No, you can't, you can't.
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  Speaker 4: You can't go that postal like you're going postal on
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  Speaker 4: a pitch that was a good pitch.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I guess this is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, but listen, Wilson Contrerez has been a good player,
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  Speaker 4: but there's been moments like this, right Kratz where he's
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  Speaker 4: kind of just lost. We've all lost our cool as
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  Speaker 4: players before, but man, this one was just this was
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  Speaker 4: And then I want to know what Bran Brown said,
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  Speaker 4: because he's the one that took the back to the face.
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  Speaker 1: What was your intent there? You went? I mean, when
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  Speaker 1: he threw it like this, yeah, but still like it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like it doesn't like a little toss in the air.
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  Speaker 4: Still threw it back toward And if you watch the replay,
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  Speaker 4: Bran Brown is here and the umpire's behind him, so
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  Speaker 4: he was throwing it at the umpire.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's gonna get a lengthy one for this one.
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  Speaker 1: Brown's not in the way, Kratz, And we're showing it
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  Speaker 1: again right now. If you're listening to the pot obviously
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  Speaker 1: you should check this out. Kratz. What if Bran Brown
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  Speaker 1: is not in the way and that thing hits the
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  Speaker 1: yump even if it's lightly hitting him in the chest
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  Speaker 1: or the face. I mean, you threw a bat at
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  Speaker 1: an umpire? Is that not twenty thirty game suspension?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, well, then, why is Victor Roblace only ten?
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  Speaker 5: Why is Victor ro Blake pitcher? Umpires are umpires are
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  Speaker 5: better than pictures, and Victor Roblace has had some serious intent.
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  Speaker 5: Wilson's was it wasn't. It wasn't like a crazy toss
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  Speaker 5: at the at the umpire. But so it's a different standard, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Different standards. Yes, Yes, I don't know if you're saying
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  Speaker 1: it to us.
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying it to both. It's a different standard because
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  Speaker 4: they put umpires. No, I did have to say yes
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  Speaker 4: on the phone call. And also I say yes to
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  Speaker 4: the fact that, yes, there is a different standard because
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  Speaker 4: MLB wants the umpires to be held at a different
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  Speaker 4: level than something else. They need to be respected, and
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  Speaker 4: that's what MLB does. But my question is I saw
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  Speaker 4: Victor Robos playing. He must be appealing his ten games suspension.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I know, I know.
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  Speaker 4: What are they gonna be like, Hey, you didn't really
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  Speaker 4: mean to throw it that hard at the picture, so
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  Speaker 4: you're only gonna get nine games.
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  Speaker 5: It might be eight, he might get eight.
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  Speaker 4: You know how the the MLB should have gone like
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  Speaker 4: twenty and then said, oh you're worse are You'll get ten?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Because if they knock it down, that's a dangerous precedent
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  Speaker 4: to stuff for throwing a back dude to be like
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  Speaker 4: I need a ten day break. I'll chuck my bat
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  Speaker 4: for pay for ten days on my hamm. He's a
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  Speaker 4: little sore. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Delman Young threw a bat he got fifty and got
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  Speaker 1: fifty games in the minor leagues. I'm pulling up the
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  Speaker 1: clip right now. I mean, at some point we can
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  Speaker 1: show it Toty Miller catching too fifty games. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't hear anything or we didn't see anything with bat
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  Speaker 1: chucking for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: And was the last guy I can remember that through
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  Speaker 4: his bat at somebody remember after the whole Donaldson thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he kind of brute tossed it towards third, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that what it was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he tried to throw the picture because they were
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  Speaker 5: they were throwing at him, and I think he just
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  Speaker 5: held onto it too long. But that'd be a that'd
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  Speaker 5: be a many question.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So how many games if your commissioner and.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to get at least ten?
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  Speaker 1: This is what the commissioner role was really made for.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: Back in the day. They were like, we need to
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  Speaker 1: settle things like this. It wasn't always you know, the
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  Speaker 1: boss and the minion for the owners. It was hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's make sure that this game is played correctly and
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  Speaker 1: that major issues don't occur, and one person is able
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  Speaker 1: to make a decision like this that knows the game.
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  Speaker 1: Really well, what should the commissioner do.
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  Speaker 4: It's got to be ten. At least, it's got to
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  Speaker 4: be ten. You just set the precedent for throwing about
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  Speaker 4: at ten. This has got to be tenka, right, it
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  Speaker 4: got at least you know I'm saying it's yeah, well,
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: at least that that was a given part of.
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  Speaker 1: They usually protect the yumps. I actually think they protect
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  Speaker 1: them more than the players. Yes, that is a different story.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Kratz, if he was pissed at the
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  Speaker 1: picture and when I after him and got into a fight,
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  Speaker 1: it's different from if he's going after the ump trying
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: to make physical contact.
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  Speaker 5: I agree, but they're kind of putting that in the
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  Speaker 5: realm of it's in the game throwing a bat Victor
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  Speaker 5: ro Blas, Throwing a bat at a pitcher, to me,
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  Speaker 5: is the same as throwing a bat at an umpire.
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  Speaker 5: Like Victor ro Blas was more malicious. I think they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna get the same I think he'll get ten games,
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  Speaker 5: but I think the malicious intent of roe Blase was
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  Speaker 5: was definitely there.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, and you know, the season's done for the Cardinals
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: and all that.
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: For the most part, the smallest, smallest crowd they've ever had. Yeah,
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: a new Bush last night under twenty thousand, first time ever.
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: Seventeen thousand paid, which means it was less than that.
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: Don't worry. In five years they'll have the next version
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: of Roman Anthony. Who else, what do you mean him
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: Bloom's taking over?
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Brssela Meyer, Christian Campbell, Christian Campbell.
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: I mean the who take three, Jared Rant.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: They'll take a few.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who else today? Who else?
• 10:02
  Speaker 5: To day?
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  Speaker 3: Wong Connor Wong. He was part of the.
• 10:08
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  Speaker 1: There you go. We will talk to Ken Rosenthal coming
• 10:23
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  Speaker 1: Hey, we're back on let's read this tweek. Ron Washington
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  Speaker 1: said it was a quadruple bypass. That's why he's out
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. We learned that a
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• 12:00
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  Speaker 5: No way.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I don't know. I love washed, Wash get better.
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  Speaker 4: The game is better when you're involved in it.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Where are the angel is going to be? Though? It crats?
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the factor too, same place, but like
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: they're moving, is moving invited back?
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: He was on a two year contract, so his contracts up.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I think his contracts up, and I mean paramination. I
• 12:29
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• 12:32
  Speaker 1: then he doesn't do a nice job because the team's
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: not good. So I know it's not his his decision
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  Speaker 1: on a lot of things, but that doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: we're thinking about him. I'm just in all seriousness, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I guess he's definitely gonna be managing the Angels. Prediction crats.
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  Speaker 4: They'll use the yes well if he's not under contract,
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  Speaker 4: they'll use the health excuse. And who's the manager now.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Ray Montgomery? I don't think. I don't think them either,
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  Speaker 1: But fuck fuck.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, they're gonna get one more scoff with this young core. Okay,
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: that's what he said.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: That's what he said. Did you guys see this Royce
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Lewis story from the weekend. I wanted to make sure
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: we had time for this. So Royce Lewis has really
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: struggled Since August first of last year. He's been one
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: of the worst hitters in baseball.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: But he doesn't go into slumps.
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: I remember he said that, Remember that one of the worst
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: I don't remember he said that.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: It was a confident quote. It was a really nice kid.
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: This is why baseball players are really good at complaining
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: and not saying a lot of stuff, because they don't
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: want when they're going good to go away, and then
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: they know as soon as anything goes wrong, then people
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: bring up quotes from the past. So I had no
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: problem with him saying it. I love the confidence, but
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, now shows like you Scott, people
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  Speaker 4: like you were gonna bring it up.
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  Speaker 1: Now I didn't bring that up. You brought that up.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing up to fresh stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You have to tape.
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  Speaker 1: It's worth listening to. It's He said he feels like
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: he's kind of on an island and trying to figure
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: things out on his own right now. He hasn't felt
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: comfortable all year, and then gets into stats and how
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: changing things could affect arbitration. He said, it's also hard
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: to make a full in season adjustment because you can
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: try that in those thirty games or at bats of
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: trial go towards your stats. Do you really want to
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: sacrifice that and if it doesn't work, then you go
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: back to what you were doing before. It's always hard.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: I know Michael Harris just did a significant change. Being
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: under contract probably helps because he knows what he's making
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: that year and the year after. For someone like me,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I'm fighting to take care of myself and my family.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to put any of those stats in jeopardy.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do what's best as fast as possible,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: but feeling like I've been on an island, it's kind
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: of tough. Also, I just want to note that it's
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: not like he's done nothing. He has been working with
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: the crew on slowing down his hands, adding length back
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: to his swing, which is actually a combo we had
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: earlier in the show. But take all of that and
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: tell me how we should perceive it and how teammates
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: and even media are perceiving what he said.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: He's being honest and we want people that are honest,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: and he's being honest because this is what remember I
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: talked about this last week.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: This is how.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Players are looking at a Players that are more statistical driven,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: whether it's through their agents or through being just smarter
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: about baseball, and they know more about this and we've
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: learned more about arbitration and what teams look for and
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: what they want and how you make money. And so
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: he's saying, I'm not willing to give up those thirty
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: at bats because it might cost me down the road.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: It's a bad look, but I can't fault them. I
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: can't fault him for saying this.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: He's being honest. We want everyone to be honest. He's
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: being honest.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: It's a weird look because we've never really heard anybody
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: say it like this before. So I think that's why
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: people are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's he saying. But
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: at the same time, if those thirty at bats help
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: you for the next five years of your career, those
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: thirty of bats are worth it. So it's just it's
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: a strange thing because you've never heard anybody.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Say it like this.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: Is he wrong?
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I said, he's not wrong.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm agreeing with you, like he's he's not wrong.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: Like this is something that every player has to deal with.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: Nobody ever says, hey, you know what you need to
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: make an out so that the you know, so that
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: you can get better. No, during the times that you're
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: making changes, there is a learning curve. Sometimes you make
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: a change, and it's usually a change is that stick
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: and you get it bang right away. Sometimes you don't,
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: and he probably, I'm going to go ahead and guess
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: never until about a year and a half ago, had
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: gone through a slump. That's why you say things like
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: you said, he's never gone through struggles. You never hit.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: A time to struggle at the big leies is a
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: tough time to do it. The part for me where
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: he added in like, well, a guy like Michael Harris
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: he has he has stability, He has the ability to
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: make changes part way through a season because you know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: his contract isn't in limbo. That's the reality. That's ninety
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: five percent of people in big league baseball. You do
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: not get a guaranteed contract like Michael Harris at the time.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Michael Harris got it when you're still learning to play
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: in the big leagues. Michael Harris made the change. He
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: knows he's not a finished product. He wanted to do better.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Everybody goes through this. So for him to be like, well,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe it was a shot at the Twins
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: organization for not extending him. Maybe it was frustration from
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: him he's not doing well, so those numbers he's taking
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: to arbitration aren't going to be that great because one
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: of the biggest numbers in arbitration is staying on the
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: field and he hasn't been able to do that. And
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: when he does do it, I think his numbers are
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: going to go up and he's going to start to
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: hit more home runs and RBIs and all the good things.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: There are two hundred and two hitters with at least
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty played appearance since its late appearances
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: since August first of last year. Royce Lewis ranks one
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to eighty ninth and average eighty fifth in ops, so
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: he's towards the bottom of Aaron Gleeman was very critical.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: He's been on our show frequently covering the twins. He said,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, it was hasn't worked at all, So
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: he said, got some can't blame him for looking out
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: for himself. Replies to this, which isn't surprising.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: No, but it worked before that for him. Yeah, he remember,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: he was like the best. Yeah, this guy just get
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: on the field. He's like the best player in the game.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But this is why sometimes fans and our show will
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, lock him up. That's an extension guy,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: though I don't remember us saying it's specifically about him
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: because of the injuries and the twins, and many teams
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: would have a reply of wait and see, you're allowed
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: to do that. You have a player under team control
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: for six seven years. Yes, you're you have the right
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: as a team part of the collective bargaining agreement to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: let a player go year to year and make sure
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: that he is worthy of a long term deals. Like
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: krat said, most guys don't get the extension, and it
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't extension.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Very few guys that get an extension.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: That's why when they're guys are extended like a basaioh,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: like a Roman Anthony, like a Christian Campbell. That's why
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: we talk about it so much, because it doesn't happen
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: for everybody.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: They do risk analysis. Also a lot of this factors
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: on age. Why, because the younger you are in free agency,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the more you get paid. It is that simple. They
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: work very strictly every front office on an agent curve Kratz.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: So it's a very different conversation when you're talking about
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Roman Anthony or Samuel Bissio versus Royce Lewis who. I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: don't remember what his rookie season was, but it was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: probably twenty three or something like that. And even that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: little difference of two years makes a huge difference in
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: free agency, makes.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: A huge difference. Is twenty twenty two he was twenty
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: three years old, It makes a huge difference. Everybody wants
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: an extension when I was thirty six. I wanted an
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: extension when I was thirty Like, everybody wants that stability,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: but you have to be able to play through that
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: instability of I don't know if I'm going to stay
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: in the big leagues or I don't know if this
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: swing change is going to make me an All star
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: or just kind of a average player in the big leagues.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Those are decisions you have to make as a player,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: and that can be the selfish part of the game.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: It's a team game played by individuals.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: How would teams or teammates take this? Do they care?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Not really.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: There'll be a guy or two that'll say something, But
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: other than that, not really, because guys know that he's right.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: On a level, there's guys that know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Again, it goes back to what I said last week
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: when I said, guys don't want to do this or
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: that because they know, because guys are more educated now
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: is what to get some paid. And they were raised
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: on this, They were raised on analytics. They were raised
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: on these things. And agents are in their ear all
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the time saying, hey, you got to do this better.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: How many times have I mean, I think it was
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Francisco Lindor or somebody. I don't know if it was him,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: so I could be wrong here that said I need
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: to improve my defense or no, it's Korea, Korea, remember
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: the one years like, oh, I need to reprove my
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: range factors so I can make more money. So you
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: just went out and tried to improve his range defensively
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: because that was the way he was told he'd make
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: more money.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of guys have actually done that. Outfielders, guys
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: know this stuff decade now. Have moved back because the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: defensive metrics were favoring you if you moved back right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: telling you to cover more guys behind.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Guys now know the answers to the to the puzzle.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: The puzzle is now kind of solvable, right, It's like
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the rivers cub the guys can go. It's kind of
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: solvable now because there's so many years of data that
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: they can say, all right, if you do this, if
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: you do this, it gets you paid more.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: And guys now know that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Agents now know that, so they tell their guys, hey,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: this offseason, you're going into your first RB er. If
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: you really do this and improve this, you'll make a
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: million or two. More guys are like, okay, I gotta
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: do that right, oh, because listen, I know this. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: had hitting coaches come up to me and say, all right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: we're gonna give up in a bad or two or
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: three because I need you to do this. If you
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: take it at bad and you say I'm gonna hit
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: a ground ball to short. As a left handed hitter,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: that means I'm inside the ball on top hit a
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: ground ball to short. Now, sometimes you'd actually get a hit.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: You'd hit like a missile somewhere because you're just thinking
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: about like all right, get in out of it, hit
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: down on it, boom, stay through it. And then and
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: then it was like oh it clicks again, and you're
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: like oho, everyone has a key, right, So whatever that
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: key is for Royce Lewis, maybe he hasn't found it
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: for a while, so he's searching, but he also doesn't
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: want to give up. But it could be one at
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: back cratch, you know, it could be one at beat.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: It didn't have to be thirty at bats. Someone could
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: tell you something. And I used to tell the hitting
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: coaches all the time, just tell me something, dude. If
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I'm struggling, just make some up because it gets my
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: mind thinking about something else and what I was thinking about. Oh,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: you're pulling your head stepping in the bucket, and then
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about my feet instead of my swing and.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Boom, oh wow, look at that work. You're a genius coach.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Yep. Hitting coaches are flot or psychologists. That's it. They're
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: they're getting you to be in a right mindset so
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: that when you do get a hit. Ooh, that's what worked.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Everybody's story is different. Obviously I have more minor league
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: stories than AJ does, but he struggled with the same
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: things in the big leagues. Oh, I got to do
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: this to try to keep from pulling off. In two thousand,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I won Player of the Month for the league in April.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Now it's freaking freezing in New Hampshire. You're in Double A.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: You're like, whoa, I'm twenty four years old. This is awesome.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Double A only one step away from the big leagues.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Triple A is the only thing I'm coming for. And
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: the hitting coach told me, congratulations, if you want to
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: hit in the big leagues, it'll never work. And I
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: was like, what will never work? It's like you're swinging,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: it'll never work. And I'm like, okay, fine, and I
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: listened to him. I ended up hitting two h five
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: that year in Double A, and I was like, crap,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I shouldn't have listened. But it was a learning moment
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: for me. It was learning in the sense that I
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: have to do what I have to do to be
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: able to have success. And that can sound selfish or
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: because the fact that I ended up playing Chiles forty
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: maybe it was the smart thing to do.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: It's your career, though, it's every player. This is the
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: hardest thing for players to learn. It's your career.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But the argument from a tweet and many others is
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you are not an average hitter right now at a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: year period where you're one of the worst in baseball.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: It's you try your career. Your He's probably tried a
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: million different things that we don't know about.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, And they did list some things here.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing. It's your career at the end of
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: the day. Ultimately, you have to make a decision. Every coach,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: every especially in the minor leagues, wants to put their
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: stamp on you and say, oh I helped I helped
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Scott Braun.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Be a better hitter.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Oh I helped Aircrafts be a better hitter. Oh I
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: help this guy I helped. Look at me how much
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I helped them? Right, But there are also things where
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: guys tell you stuff and you know it doesn't it's
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: not going to work for you, and you just go yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, actually I tried this, and you just do.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: The same thing.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: You're like, yeah that worked, dude, that was awesome, thank you. Right,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: not saying that's right or wrong, but at the end
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: of the day, it's your career and you have to
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: make those decisions on a personal level. And there are
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: times Listen, I have plenty of coaches that were like, hey,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: try this, try hitting right hand, to try being a pitcher,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: try playing the outfield. I'm like, no, no, that's gonna
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: work for me.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: The person that's going to care most about you is you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: You, yep, and listen, you make mistakes. Sometimes there are
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: things that I look back, I said, man if I
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: would have tried that or that, But at the end
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: of the day, it's on you and it's your career
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: and it's your decision. Sing with an agent, we talk
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: about this when the extensions and the agents right the
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: agent were At the end of the day, agents work
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: for the players, although sometimes agents think that the player
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: worked for them.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: But the if the if the team comes to you.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: And you want us, and you're happy with the extension
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: or you're happy with the thing, then take it, because
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's not about the agent,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: it's about you. Any of the agent says you can
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: make more, you know what, I'm happy with whatever I
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: got and whatever. If I love money on the table,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: oh well, I made the decision for me and my family,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: not for my agent and his family.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: So yep, ask Matt Dominga. Is that people haven't heard of,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: don't remember them.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Some But what happened, Oh, because he turned down.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Turned down extensions. Yeah, when the astros were giving out
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: all those small extensions, he turned one down. Never made
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: that much money. He regrets it because at the time
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: he was like I thought I could make more. I
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: think he had just hit twenty homers in the big
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: leagues in a shortened season. Twenty one homers. Yeah, twenty
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: one homers. He's like, I can do that for late
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: the next three years. That'll be easy. It doesn't always
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: work out. It is your career. Nobody's stopping games because
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: somebody's not doing well. You're gonna play again. Every team's
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: going to play one hundred and sixty two the next year.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: One other quote, Sorry, I'm getting wrecked by ants right now.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Did you guys see Mookie Betts on the bite back
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: about right field.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Uh no, what he says is not happening.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which is fine. But he said people are
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: making stuff up. Somebody's in there trying to be the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: first to report a story of their own. It's completely false.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I go in there to talk with Dave Roberts. Me
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and Doc have this mentor of father son relationship. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: talked to him all the time about my swinging and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: how it's coming along, and this and that and the other.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: So somebody in there was just kind of guessing and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: making stuff up. So whoever made that up, you need
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to be careful with what you're reporting. I was in
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: there talking about my swing and how it's coming along.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with going back to right field.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: There was even more there that got even juiced here. Yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: just saying like media watch it. Remember the meeting last
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: week between him. I remember the meeting Friedman.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't know what said.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: I appreciate them not saying what was said in the meeting,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: so Lukie can say whatever he wants. But if the
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Dodgers are doing their due diligence, then they have to
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: ask Mookie about possibly doing that just to see if
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: it makes their team better than they probably came up.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. We don't know that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: We weren't in the meeting, and that's fine. We weren't there.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Weren't there.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing it's never discussed. We
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: weren't in the meeting. We don't know. Maybe it wasn't
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: discussed in that moment. But teams have algorithms that have
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: a value for every player on their twenty six man
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: roster and the guys on their forty man roster plugging
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: it in to play against a certain team. I have
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: a hard time believing in a game Miguel Rojas at
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: shortstop and Mookie Betts in right field and Ta Oscar
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: and left isn't a higher value through their algorithm than
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: the current lineup. But I don't know.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: The other quote. I understand reporters have to do their job,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: but you have to spread lives, you have to make
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: stuff up, especially because I'm a very open and honest person.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Just come talk to me and ask me. I don't
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: appreciate things being made up, but it kind of is
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: what it is, you know. Originally, the La Times reporter
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: who reported that there was a meeting, I don't think,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and that's what this story said actually listed what was
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: going on. Of course, he wasn't in the meeting. He
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: just said there was a meeting, and then it took
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: on a life of its own because people are like, Okay,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Ti Oscar just had a bad game, Mookie's talking to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: some bosses. I think that it will at least come
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: up in the conversation. Not a crazy thought there. I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: don't think it's that big of a deal. Also, this
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: is the fun part of sports. We should be discussing
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that should he be in right field?
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: This is what happens.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: This is no big deal. All good yea, and yes,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Mookie's really nice and he is for the most part,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: one of the more open players in the game. But
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: for example, there was an incident this year, I think
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: with the Padres and Dodgers one of the series earlier
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: where there was bean ball, and he was like, yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: not talking about that. So we're not sitting down and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: getting our tell all conversations from everyone. No, it's I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: think sometimes we get to mid August, the season's long,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and it's the media's fault. Do you feel that way
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes where suddenly like this and I'm like, that's a stretch.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Whatever, listen, whatever the Mookie set up for himself, set
• 29:50
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  Speaker 4: for you know, for six innings with one hit, throwing
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  Speaker 5: I love I love it that they went to throwing harder.
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• 32:40
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• 32:42
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• 33:01
  Speaker 1: recent games the Mets and the Phillies this week, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: we have to go right to our reporter in Pennsylvania,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Aeric Kratz, for the result of that one. Kratz had
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  Speaker 1: it go.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: After the third inning. It went very heavily to the Mets,
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: and it may have been the last game that Jordan
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Romano pitches for the Phillies. It definitely showed that the
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: Phillies are a team. If they're going to succeed in
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: the playoffs, they have to have everything line up exactly
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: right in the sense that their offense has to be
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: clicking early to be able to give it over to
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: the bullpen because they don't have they don't necessarily have
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: the bullpen that can keep you in like a two
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: run game. It's going to be an offensive team, I
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: think in the playoffs that gets great starting pitching and
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: your two pieces three pieces at the back of the bullpen.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: It's not as deep as like a Padres team. But
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: last night got it got ugly. But Luis Terrenz filling
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: in for the Mets, filling in for Francisco Alvarez, who
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: supposedly I think is starting a rehab assignment. I mean,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: what a night. He just he was clearly going to
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: right center field the entire night and ended up with
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: five stakes, big three run jack to put the game
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: out of out of control. It was. It was the
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Luis nz game.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Biantos has been fired for the Mets for a
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: few days now. They got to Christopher Sanchez, he's the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: top three cy young guy this year. Six runs, five
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: earned and after the ten unanswered runs from the Mets
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and a big win. Or was it were they down
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: three to nothing the Mets, Yeah, thirteen unanswered Yeah, because
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: they won thirteen to three. Yeah, I will bring this
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: question up, and I know it's one game. Aj, Did
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the Phillies do it enough or should they added? Should
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: they have added one more? They added to everybody wants. Yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: but Patres did. Over the last two years, they've had
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: like four closers. Yeah, it is helpful. It's over a
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: long period of time though, sure.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: And I don't know.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I think Dobrowski wasn't counting on the Wheeler thing going down.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I think their bullpenny thought was set once they got
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: they're getting Alvarado back. Yes, he won't be available for
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, but Duran at the back end, some of
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: the other guys. Robertson's been great since he's come over.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: So I don't know. It's one game. You guys are
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: overreacting just because Crats is a fan and he's mad.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Because it's one game doesn't mean Scott you should overreact
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: to one game too.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Why here's my non overreaction. The Phillies are have lost
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: eight of the last nine in City Field. Maybe the
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: Phillies don't want to see the Mets in the playoffs
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: to say.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: They lost him last year.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: They lost him last year and went over six last night,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: and Lindor went over six last night, and they still
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: scored thirteen eight of.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: The last nine in City Field is a it's a
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: problem for the Phillies any way.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Scott is just getting eaten up with bugs, by the way,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: just getting eaten If you see him like and not
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: one is bugs, no one.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I know what.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I've had one bug on me. It was a love bug.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: So because I'm full of love.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Basically, you're You're Fasto Carmona, You're Fausto Carmona, and he's
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Joba Chamberlain.
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  Speaker 3: It's because I eat gluten and dairy.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: They don't like me, true Jordan Romano.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: And by the way, can I just say, I know
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: so far off topic.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: People are going to catch this clip later.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Don't care what, don't care what other people think whether
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Scott said he's allergic to onions, okay, which I there's
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: also someone else here that's allergic to apples, carrots and
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: any vegetable, which is not a thing.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I mean is this doesn't believe in allergies.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I believe in allergies.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it at the hospital. I don't believe it.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Like alerg you have an allergy, no said, nobody ever
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: has been allergic to an onion. Onion, You have an
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: allergy to a fruit or a vegetable. Aj, this is
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: all fake, don't sue us. AJ is going to go
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to a hospital and bring everyone in and they're going
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to test him one by one and see who lives
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and who dies, just testing fruits and vegetables. Anyway, I don't.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know, Chris, have you ever heard
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: of anybody being allergic to a carrot?
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Carrots? No vegetables.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not allergic to carrots, but we have someone who's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: part of our team who's allergic to apples, and I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: have heard of apples from others. If heat the seeds,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you're probably in trouble, but not the apple. It's about
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the stem.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know anyway.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Are the Phillies allergic to Jordan Romano for the rest
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of the season? Should they cut him? He's got an
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: eight to two three e r A and forty two
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and two thirds innings. It's August, almost September. Krats help
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: us out. Yeah, probably, it's almost September.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the time.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: I feel, I feel like it's time. I mean, I
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: never want to condone cutting somebody, but they've given him
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: over four innings. That is a crazy amount. And I
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: heard Topper talk the other day. Rob Thompson was talking
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: about it and he said, really lately, it's been a
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: lot of one pitch, unlucky mistakes, and then he makes
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: one pitch that you know is left in the middle
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: of the plate. Yeah, that's what happens. He is not
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: he's getting behind in the count. He's throwing that slider
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: that used to be that gyro slider that was more
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: like a curveball, but spun like a slider, and it
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: has doesn't have the depth. So not only is it
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: starting off the plate and staying off the plate, but
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: then when it's on the plate, it's not breaking down
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: like it used to. And it's just it's okay, it's okay.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean his career is over. It just means,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: you hope there's somebody in Triple A, maybe an Andrew
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Paynter who can adjust as a you know, go from
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: starting and throwing a pen for these you know, if
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: they need somebody to step up. Jordan Romano was never
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: since May. He wasn't gonna be a piece for the
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: playoff roster. But you're still talking about trying to get
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: through these innings and it can't be Joe Ross every night.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Agreed, agreed. Might it might just be time. Maybe he
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: goes to the offseason and goes to a place and
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: figure some stuff out and comes back next year better
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: than never.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Who knows.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Phillies fans wanted Taiwan Walker gone, but he was on
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a multi year contract Jordan Romano that has been very
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: valuable for That's my point. They wanted him off the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: team and last year in June or something like that,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: right difference, and they held on different different because he
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: was on a multi year Romanos.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Jordan Romano's eating one inning Tywan Walker, even on the
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: big contract. I think it's twenty five minute. I think
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: he got three year, seventy five. He's eating three innings
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: in a bad start, he's eating four innings. You need
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: to build your team with more than just five starters.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Some teams are running into that, and now they're down
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: to three. Phillies lost Nola for a majority of the year.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Now they lost Wheeler. Nola's back. You need to still
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: be able built by innings and Tyler Walker can give
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: you more innings. That's why I said, don't get rid
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: of him yet. Now Taiwan Walker's thrown himself into should
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: be in the mix to be on the playoff froster.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: One more thing from this game, and again props to
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the Mets offense. Great star for them, and they need
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: these games much more than the Phillies do, by the way,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: because the Reds are right behind them. They had to
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: delay this game for nineteen minutes. There was it, nineteen
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: minutes whatever it was, it was double digit minutes, ten, fifteen,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Alec Bohm pointing to the outfields to a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: microphone there. It is clear microphone that's next to the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: stands that he felt shouldn't be there. Turns out it's
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: been there for years.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yeap, Who is it?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Kratz on the post game for the Phillies, Ricky Batalico,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: who always sounds off. Is that who it was that
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: that went after Bowman the field?
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: It was either Ricky or Michael Barkan.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I think it was Batalico. So whose side are you
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: on for this one? If there's something that's been there
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: for years, it's a parabolic mic that probably picks up
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: extra sound for something and it's in the batter's eye,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: but all the way to the right near the stands.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Should the opposition be complaining about it?
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: Uh? Yes, because maybe they have a guy on their
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: team that his arm slot is perfectly right behind, right
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: in front of that parabolic mic as you said it, Like, yes,
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: just they should say something about it, like it's a microphone,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Like I think it's something that should should be moved.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: But uh, probably before you hit into a ground ball
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: double play. That's that's my.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Son, move it. Let me get this straight.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: So the guy in the white T shirt that so
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: two foot to the left of that microphone is okay,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: But that one little mic that's clear and you, I mean,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I guess you could see it. I don't know is
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: affecting the hitting.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking what if for the playoffs, if these
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: two teams meet up, they have everyone in the outfield
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: whear white shirts and then they flip them when the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Mets are.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Up home field advantage. Yeah, but I don't know.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: There's a guy and two feet closer than me and
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Scott Away that was in a white shirt that didn't
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: affect but the little circle mic.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: So if a teammate and you're a more senior member
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: of the team at the time. Let's just hypothetical. This
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: complains about that. What would you say to the teammate.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that on the air.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: I'll set it, I'll say it. I can't stand when
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: guys come back to the dugout and be like, I
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: can't I can't see that the sun is. So you
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: go up to the dug out and you're like, where's
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: the where's the sun at? Like I'm trying to I'm
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: trying to look like there's a lot of things that
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: can get in the way. But I don't know. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: don't know. It's part way through the game too. It's
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: been in City Field for years.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: So what's his career numbers? That's the question. What's his
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: career numbers at City Field?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, you think they're bad? And then he's like, I
• 43:16
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• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe whoever he was facing he has bad numbers. Again,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I'm just looking up.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It was it was a weird.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Thing to complain about.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it was brought up.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Post game show it's like, I don't know if we're
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, that's taking a delay off a game
• 43:38
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• 43:41
  Speaker 1: something new, right, Hey, we've put that out there. But
• 43:43
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• 43:45
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  Speaker 4: play in the Triple A Ballpark?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Vegas? Vegas? Is that place better be rocket? He was
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: excited about them going to play in a Triple A ballpark.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: At least they get some Major League baseball there.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: They get it. Every spring training a team goes there.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: One of these. One of these things on here has
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: no relevant to me, has no relevance. All of these
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: things are awesome, awesome, momentous occasions. Crazy. That's twenty five
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: years since nine to eleven A's go to a minor
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: league stadium to play more games.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Time Crats do I sound lupily now much better?
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: Sounded buzzy before buzz light year.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got rid of the bugs. Kyle Riley fifty
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: homers Operation MVP.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: You heard it. You heard it here first, I said,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I've been saying it for a long time.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Note that. Give me something else.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: He's got the all time record for home He's chasing
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: down Mickey Mano for the home most catch, and then
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: he's gonna he's chasing down Mickey Mano for the all
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: time homers for switch hitter. The biggest question is can
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: he beat Judge? Can he get to sixty three? I
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: mean you had to yesterday or two two days ago?
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: One yesterday? He's feeling it. I don't know, but I'd
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: love to see it. Absolutely big dumper.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: That one went a long way.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Kratz, you go, you go upstairs there, that's big time.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: There's some upper decks that are tough to get to.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: He went about eight rows up in the upper upper
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: tank there. That was a bomb. And to me, it's
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: really a matter of what number you think he's not
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: gonna reach. Is he gonna catch Aaron Judge? He's gonna
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: break Mickey Mantle's switch hitter record. I think he's gonna
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: break the catching record. I think it was Hobby Lopez.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: We said it yesterday. And then you're gonna start getting
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: into the Ken Griffy Junior. Will he beat the great
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Ken Griffy Junior. He'll never go down as the great
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: camp the great cal Raley, But why not compared to.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: The glove?
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, home runs?
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: I mean chance if he continues, I mean he's got
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: a chance to be one of the all time great
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: long term deal, he got long term deal.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: The kid he.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: Will be up there with Ken Griffy Junior. No way,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: he could have a Hall of Fame career. But can
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Griffy or The thing is everybody sees this is like
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: a one year thing from cal Rawley in a sense
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: that like, wow, he really burst on the scene. He
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: has so many home run records through the first I
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: don't know how many games of his career as a Mariner.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: You're talking about dudes that have hit a lot of
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: home runs in Seattle's history, and he's been breaking those
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: records coming up to this year and now he's got fifty.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: This year. He was the fastest too, I think eighty
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: or ninety home runs. He was the fastest to one
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: hundred home runs. He was the first, you know, switch hit,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: or he's been doing this for a long time. The
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: difference is now he's hitting it, doing it on a
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: playoff team, and his batting average is over two fifty.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I'll redo the quote because it was fun, and when
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: you're this good all year, you want to try and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: switch it up. Yeah, don't just say yeah, it's going
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: well like He's often given us some fun quotes. We
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: saw the Sarah Langs stat on most home runs in
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: a season by a primary catcher. Almost there, yep, here's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the quote. He said, it doesn't seem real. I mean,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: fifty home runs. It's kind of a crazy number to
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: think of. I thought I was a cool player when
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I hit five home runs when I was young in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: high school or something. You hit five, you had all
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: this power in the world. So it's just crazy, like, oh, hey.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Good for him. But by the way, when we talk
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: about five Dingers, when.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: We talk about like him versus Griffy, listen, we're not
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: saying he's going to be better than Griffy. We're saying,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: is he's got a chance is one of the all
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: time Mariner greats? If he keeps us up what he's doing.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: We're not saying he's gonna take place, because we don't
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: want anybody saying, oh, they're saying cal Rale's.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Gonna be better. No, no, he's not gonna be better than Ken
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Griffy Junior.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: What we're saying is he's got a chance to go
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: down if he continues, just to go down as one
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: of the Mariner all time greats.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: He signed up for the long term. I was doing
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: this math the other day, Kratz. You know how front
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: offices will try and put a number to how many
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: wins you're worth your wins, So he's he's over seven.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: He's almost exact same as Judge. If you look at
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: fangrafts and some of the people who are looking at
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: MVP are like, see now, I'm like, okay, even if
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: he was six point eight and Judge was seven point two,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: you're allowed to vote for Kyle Riley over Judge. It's
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: not most war for most for most valuable player. But anyway,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I digress. If you think one win is worth seven
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: million dollars, which is I think somewhat conservative, then he's
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: a fifteen million dollar player this year.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, seven seven millions in all number. I think it's
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: actually seven point six now is the last the last
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: thing I read.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I've seen it all the way up to tennis. But
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, let's go on the lowest end that
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I've seen seven.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Seven, right either because the guys that's not true. So
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: that's why, because it's not true.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: But this is what front offices.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: But you don't get paid off ten million dollars because
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: there's a rookie kid out there, whoever it is, the
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: rookie of the year, Paul Skeans is making league minimum
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: or whatever it is, whatever going over that.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: But my point is that if it was a complete
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: free market, one win, according to many front offices, is
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: at least seven million dollars. So Kyle Roley, who just
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: signed that what six year one hundred, is already hitting
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: up half that contract worth the value in one season?
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: Okay comment, Okay, whether we're arguing about.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Because he's not worth because just because yeah, great, one
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: win is worth it? Okay, So then why don't they
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: do this at the next bargaining agreement. You just get
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: paid off your war. I bet you the war numbers
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: will change real quick. You get paid only off your war.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: So if you're a three war player and you're in
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: your second year, you get thirty million dollars.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to do that would change. Yes, I'm
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: going to say, now, don't give me that when.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: War is worth this and that, because all teams don't.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: First of all, there's more than one example of war.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: So there's one F war, B war, C war, D war,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: E war. Who gives a crap war? Yeah, I mean listen,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: but teams don't pay off that. So don't give me
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: that war is worth this much or this much. It's
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: not because it's not you know how he get paid.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question about Kyle Riley's production
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: this year? If I could tell you, hey, you could
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: find this production from this player, how much would you
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: pay for him for one season on a contending team?
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: What would his season be worth? And how much playoff value?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: One year deal? A one year deal, probably twenty five
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: to thirty million for one year.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: That's it going into it because they don't know it's coming. No. No,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: if I'm saying, hey, you're gonna get the best catcher
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of I'm giving you the status in advance and say
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: what does this worth to you? For one season. Isn't
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it worth fifty million bucks?
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't pay that though, I know they wouldn't pay
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: that vacuum.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: What is the season worth that?
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Then?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Why can't we play this game? Because it's not a
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: real game. It's not realistic. I can't have any fun here,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Kratz No, because it's not realistic.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: It's not realistic.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: It is I'm no, no, no, no, don't it.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's realistic. It's realistic because if it were up
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: to the owners, they would love one year contracts. Okay,
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: if you're gonna pay guys one year contracts, you're gonna
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: have to give out a sixty million dollar contract because
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Aaron Judge will be worth sixty million dollars after this year.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: Cal Raley when he finishes this season, in their mind,
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: will be worth sixty million dollars this year. So it's
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: a realistic question that Scott put out there, because teams
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: don't want to give out these long contracts, even this
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: extension six years one oh five that with with a
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: vesting option for cal Raley, Well they're they're picking that
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: up unless he gets hurt and they would have to
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: pay this. So I agree with you and yes, the
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: number is fifty to sixty million. If you know you're
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: getting this production from the catching position, the Dodgers would
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: pay fifty to sixty million dollars And what then?
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: What then? Then? Why would then why did Juan Soto? Right? Yeah,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: just out sign one year deals the whole time.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you guys are getting too realistic with get mine.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: He's on a realist I've played in the real world.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I don't play hat off your CBA hat. Wanted to
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: know if you're in fantasyland and I say, hey, we
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: have a catcher available for your contending team. You need
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: a catcher. These are the numbers you're going to get.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: How much money would you pay?
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: By the way, he is on a contending team, so.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I know that I know he's on a contending.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: All your arguments, you're no. One void, you're.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Ball busting to the highest. No, there are offt balls
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: flying everywhere right now, I'm just saying, like, how much
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: would you pay for him? Right? You're running how much
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: he signed for? Who cares not?
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Who cares? How much he signed for?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Six years, one oh five?
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: That is exactly what great, that's exactly what I pay Scott.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Since you got since you're not getting anywhere. I agree
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: with you. Yes, I would pay fifty to sixty million
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: dollars for a year that you know you're getting fifty
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: plus homers from the catching position. The real question is,
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: because we talked early in the show about Royce Lewis,
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: how much did that contract that he signed, that cal
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: Raley signed before the year helped dictate this season? Helped
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: him do what he's doing because the hit home runs.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Everybody will tell you, no matter where your swing change
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: is or not, you got to catch the ball out front.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: To catch the ball out front, you might swing and
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: miss at a few more pitches. Now he's catching the
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: ball out front from the left side and the right side.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe that contract allowed him to relax a little bit
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: and not worry so much about the narrative that the
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Mariners strike out so much, and maybe that enabled him
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: to become a better hitter because he has one hundred
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: and five million dollars coming to him and doesn't have
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: to play for his contract.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: No doubt about fantasy.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Even in Fantasyland, we call that
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: bleep it mode where it's like you're you're just going
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: out there to have a good time and do whatever win.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Say that because he wants to win and he wants
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: to do well soon going out there saying bleep it.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: No, he's not worried about what the offseason is going
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: to look like. Okay, he's just worried about what's going
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: to help a million worth. Didn't you play with some
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: guys who would go out on the field and feel
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: like real tense and like I have to prove every
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: single second of what I'm doing here, And then some
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: guys that were like, Hey, I'm I'm playing free and
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: easy and it's leading to more.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Sometimes guys when they signed contracts play do worse the
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: first year because they're trying to live up to the contract.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, they don't always all work too. I mean, Lawrence
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Butler is having a really down year compared to what
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: he did last year. But it's long term deal and
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: days aren't in playoff range anyway. But coy Riley fifty
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: eight point five million dollars is his worth according to A. J. Prazinski,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: if you could buy that sticle production to the one
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: seas you heard it here first. I just wanted to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: come up with a different way to hype up how valuable.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: He's been He's very valuable.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: But you know what, they sign him for a deal
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: and he's happy with the deal. So that's how much he's.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not crapping on the deal. I'm just saying he
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: is extremely valuable, and I wanted to try and put another.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: The MVP of the American League.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: He is the m v P. You've heard it here
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: since what May.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I've been saying it since for a long time, at
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: least May.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say May. Anyway, we'll take a break
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: when we come back. Yeah, slap pants. Hey Brian McCann
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: right here. We're on live TV, so just be careful.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: That was good. See what he does with the drone.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: And now we got Malark.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: He heard the play by play, Yeah he heard it.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: That's right. By the way.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: We're all over the place, but our turn.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Katie.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: That book she keeps of cards is everybody that was
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: on the show during her internship, plus the host, and
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: so she's got nameplates for anyone she's missing still, but
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: she's been collecting the card so everyone.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: No.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I thought that was cool.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: That's cool. I didn't see that I was talking.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: That s cool. Props to Katie. That's a project during
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: the summer. I really like that. She sent that to
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: us on her way out finishing up the program and
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: we were like, hey, we got to show that, and
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: she said go for it. So thanks Katie. Anyway, big
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: show tomorrow, Josh Donaldson, maybe Brian mccannon. We're gonna talk
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: to Tony Romo on the pro YouTube channel. We'll see
• 58:35
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