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24 | Do Unto Me · You Didn't Ask For This

• 0:00
  Matt: Matt, I was involved in an illegal street race last night.
• 0:03
  Matt: What?
• 0:05
  Matt: I um I'm gonna need an explanation on that, I think.
• 0:10
  Eric: Uh and I'm gonna preface this with this isn't the first time.
• 0:16
  Eric: And we'll circle.
• 0:17
  Matt: Are you revealing some dark secret under underground activity of your life that I previously was not privy to?
• 0:24
  Eric: I'm not saying I'm part of a street racing syndicate.
• 0:27
  Matt: I will say well, you you did just sort of say that.
• 0:30
  Eric: I sort of said that, Your Honor, but you'll see that the record shows I did not explicitly say that.
• 0:38
  Eric: I'm not saying I'm a member of a street racing syndicate.
• 0:41
  Eric: What I will say, family means a lot to me.
• 0:45
  Eric: Um so I was driving down 695.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah, great.
• 0:51
  Eric: So so this is what makes it better.
• 0:53
  Eric: I had no intentions of being involved in this.
• 0:55
  Eric: I was I was in it, I was in a flash mob style street race.
• 1:00
  Eric: Oh sure.
• 1:01
  Matt: Oh, yes, the classic flashmob style street race.
• 1:04
  Eric: Yes.
• 1:04
  Eric: I was driving down 695.
• 1:06
  Matt: There you are, in your Jeep.
• 1:08
  Eric: In my Jeep, in my 2013 Wrangler that is missing part of its window.
• 1:14
  Eric: It is missing a a wheel guard on the front.
• 1:17
  Matt: Straight out of Fast Nine.
• 1:19
  Eric: Yep.
• 1:22
  Eric: Uh and I'm driving, and all of a sudden, like I'm driving with the windows down, I'm cruising, I'm playing some tunes, I'm I'm listening to some Kesha.
• 1:33
  Matt: And naturally.
• 1:35
  Eric: And then all of a sudden I hear pop, pop, and like like gunshot loud, I realize immediately it's like it's like a an like an afterburner in a car, like one of those, like, yeah, like one of those things.
• 1:47
  Eric: And then I turn and there's a car now screaming past me.
• 1:51
  Eric: And then I notice the headlights behind me swerve, and like all of a sudden, I'm surrounded by cars, and every single car is part of this.
• 1:59
  Eric: They are fucking racing, and there are cars weaving around my ass.
• 2:03
  Eric: I'm like an obstacle in the course.
• 2:05
  Eric: I'm I'm like, I'm part of Rainbow Road, and it is fucking wild.
• 2:11
  Eric: It was so loud, Matt.
• 2:14
  Matt: No, you know what you are?
• 2:15
  Matt: You are one of the cars.
• 2:16
  Matt: It's not Rainbow Road, my friend.
• 2:18
  Matt: You're on Toad's Turnpike, and you're one of those other fucking cars.
• 2:22
  Matt: Yes.
• 2:22
  Eric: Yeah.
• 2:23
  Matt: You're one of the cars people use as a ramp.
• 2:25
  Eric: It it was a fucking nightmare.
• 2:27
  Eric: It was so I was it was so loud and deafening, I was like sweating bullets.
• 2:33
  Eric: Uh yeah, I did not win.
• 2:37
  Matt: Did you wait, hold on.
• 2:39
  Matt: So, okay.
• 2:40
  Matt: Um, I am sorry that your Jeep didn't perform as well as the souped up, you know, uh Mazdas and whatever people use Hondas that that are going by you.
• 2:51
  Matt: But the uh so but did you try to participate?
• 2:54
  Matt: Did you race in this race?
• 2:55
  Matt: I gave it a rev.
• 2:56
  Matt: Or were you just kind of surrounded like a I gave it a rev.
• 3:00
  Matt: You gave it a rev.
• 3:01
  Eric: I gave it a rev.
• 3:02
  Eric: I let them know that was me acknowledging their their skill and their artifice.
• 3:08
  Matt: What does it mean that you gave them a rev?
• 3:10
  Matt: Because you're moving, you're on a highway.
• 3:11
  Eric: Yeah, well, you're on the belt wave.
• 3:14
  Eric: Is I I started accelerating and then my car didn't actually speed up.
• 3:20
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 3:21
  Matt: Yeah.
• 3:21
  Eric: So you know what I mean?
• 3:22
  Eric: Like I put in the room.
• 3:22
  Matt: So you didn't rev you didn't rev up so much as you looked, you grabbed the steering wheel hard and looked out the window and went ah.
• 3:28
  Eric: Yeah, pretty much.
• 3:31
  Eric: Uh so that was the first time I was unintentionally involved.
• 3:35
  Eric: Oh.
• 3:36
  Eric: In my younger days.
• 3:38
  Eric: Oh.
• 3:38
  Eric: Don't worry, this doesn't end with me racing anything.
• 3:41
  Eric: Um Glenn Bernie.
• 3:45
  Eric: Jewel of the East.
• 3:47
  Eric: Yes, yes, and coast.
• 3:49
  Matt: Um Dirty Bernie.
• 3:51
  Eric: Dirty Bernie.
• 3:52
  Eric: Glenn Dirty, Glen Bernie out.
• 3:53
  Eric: Um, it it is it is like like clockwork every weekend on Saturdays, just shitheads up and down Route 2 gather, and they just drive up and down Glen Bernie.
• 4:09
  Matt: Like, like, honestly, that's like the whole the whole like uh the because the Laurel, right outside our apartment complex, there's always cars like reving all over the place.
• 4:20
  Matt: And it's a big problem in Laurel.
• 4:22
  Matt: And I think it's a big problem in this, like, this corridor between DC and like Ellicate City to really get specific to Maryland.
• 4:32
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 4:33
  Matt: For everyone listening outside of the state.
• 4:37
  Eric: So like one weekend, I would I I was like 20, 19, 20.
• 4:43
  Eric: My my friend Brad messages me and he's like, uh Hey, you wanna go, you wanna go hang out?
• 4:51
  Eric: And we get into his Durango, yeah, his fucking beast of an SUV.
• 4:58
  Eric: Uh, and we we just start dri like we were still at that age where you could just drive around and like let's see what happens.
• 5:04
  Matt: So good.
• 5:04
  Eric: Well, we start driving around at Saturday night and we realize that this is happening, like this this mob cars.
• 5:09
  Eric: So Brad's just like, I'm gonna fucking follow him.
• 5:11
  Eric: And we did.
• 5:12
  Eric: We followed them for like two hours.
• 5:13
  Eric: We went up and down Richie Highway.
• 5:15
  Eric: It's wild, like they'll their their patterns, it's like watching a school of fish.
• 5:20
  Eric: Like they'll start, yes, they'll start racing, they'll start doing shit, and then a cop will throw their lights on, and everyone will immediately pull into a gas station.
• 5:29
  Matt: Oh my god, they and they flock to these gas stations.
• 5:32
  Matt: Sometimes there's you come up on a gas station is just full of these.
• 5:36
  Matt: If you're one of these racers, uh, this is gonna be a hardcore reality check.
• 5:40
  Matt: These ugly paint jobs, these bright blues and nasty yellows, like what is wrong with you?
• 5:49
  Matt: Okay, like that you are not your character from Grand Theft Auto Online.
• 5:54
  Eric: No, it's the trench art of Glenn Bernie.
• 5:57
  Matt: Yeah, but I it's but that is universal to anybody like racing in the street.
• 6:01
  Matt: And they're they pull up at these gas stations, they take it over.
• 6:04
  Matt: Here I am just trying to get my regular unleaded and and can't even find a pump.
• 6:13
  Eric: Oh my god.
• 6:16
  Eric: I I'm I'm imagining as you put the gas into your car, you have a bumper sticker that says lead-free, drug-free.
• 6:25
  Eric: Stop.
• 6:27
  Eric: Why?
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_04: Why?
• 6:29
  Eric: That's because anyone who just has to tell me that they're getting regular unleaded, that's the bumper sticker I imagine they have.
• 6:37
  Matt: What what are you trying to say?
• 6:38
  Matt: You get pre- you gotta put premium in the Jeep?
• 6:41
  Matt: Oh, fuck.
• 6:42
  Matt: Jeep only takes premium?
• 6:43
  Matt: No man, salt of the earth.
• 6:45
  Eric: Diesel.
• 6:46
  Eric: Diesel.
• 6:47
  Eric: See how far that gets me.
• 6:49
  Eric: Yeah, really.
• 7:15
  Matt: Uh, street racer, Eric Poach.
• 7:18
  Matt: Yes.
• 7:18
  Matt: What's your street race name?
• 7:20
  Eric: Oh shit.
• 7:21
  Eric: Uh ooh, soft top.
• 7:25
  Eric: Soft top soft top.
• 7:26
  Eric: Why soft top?
• 7:28
  Eric: Because I'm driving a fucking Wrangler.
• 7:30
  Matt: But your Jeep doesn't have a soft top.
• 7:32
  Eric: It has a soft top?
• 7:33
  Eric: As evidenced by the triangle that someone cut out of my window with a box cutter.
• 7:38
  Eric: Why did someone do that?
• 7:40
  Eric: Because I lived in Dundok and there are a bunch of pieces of shit living there.
• 7:44
  Matt: Oh Lord.
• 7:46
  Matt: But they're good for it.
• 7:48
  Matt: Multiple communities.
• 7:49
  Eric: I could say that I'm from there.
• 7:51
  Eric: I lived there.
• 7:53
  Matt: Yeah, well, I guess, and you you are from the other.
• 7:57
  Eric: And in true Dundalk fashion, they didn't take anything.
• 8:00
  Eric: They just wanted to damage my property.
• 8:04
  Matt: Oh man.
• 8:05
  Matt: Well, isn't that the best form of vandalism?
• 8:09
  Matt: Now, the uh we got a good show for you today, I feel.
• 8:12
  Matt: We got some good questions.
• 8:14
  Matt: Um Eric, should we jump in or do you have news?
• 8:17
  Eric: Oh, babe, let's let's do it.
• 8:20
  Matt: All right.
• 8:21
  Matt: Well, then the first question of the day, speaking of cars, comes to us courtesy of a uh uh a Hyundai commercial, which I have to say, it seems like it's infringing on our brand of uh just asking questions.
• 8:38
  Matt: Uh so it's kind of our our thing.
• 8:41
  Matt: Yeah, it's kind of our thing.
• 8:43
  Matt: Um, we don't have any money to challenge big Hyundai.
• 8:48
  Eric: It doesn't cost anything to send a cease and desist letter.
• 8:51
  Matt: Uh you want oh, you want us to send a cease and desist to Hyundai.
• 8:55
  Eric: Just to see what'll happen.
• 8:57
  Matt: Yeah, I think I know what'll happen.
• 8:58
  Matt: Uh, we'll be shut down.
• 9:00
  Matt: Uh but anyway, they did ask a question, and I believe it's actually Mindy Kaling in the commercial that raises the question.
• 9:08
  Matt: Thank you, Mindy.
• 9:08
  Matt: That question is if there's an exception to every rule, is there an exception to that rule?
• 9:16
  Eric: Which sounds like a car commercial kind of thing to say.
• 9:19
  Eric: Like I can see it in the in like the like the pan out.
• 9:23
  Eric: There's like a there's like a car you see the wheels of a car, like in several cuts, you don't see the actual car yet.
• 9:28
  Eric: And then the announcer's like, if there's an exception to every rule, then why have rules?
• 9:35
  Eric: Boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 9:37
  Matt: Yeah, if it was like yeah, or like then the new Hyundai Elantra is the exception to the rule.
• 9:44
  Matt: But they didn't say that, they're just asking questions without answers, and of course I thought to myself, well, who better to provide the answer than these two idiots right here?
• 9:53
  Eric: Oh, yes, than us.
• 9:55
  Matt: Um so exception to every rule, is there an exception to the exception rule?
• 10:00
  Eric: Eric Uh, I feel like there has to be.
• 10:04
  Eric: So paradoxically.
• 10:06
  Matt: Paradoxically.
• 10:07
  Matt: So let's think about this from the you know, uh because it's true, everybody always says there's an exception to every rule.
• 10:15
  Matt: So if that is the our baseline, what is the I guess the rule that would be the you know, that has no exception?
• 10:26
  Matt: Well, uh, see, here's the I have a candidate jumps to mind.
• 10:30
  Eric: Okay, hit me.
• 10:31
  Matt: Oh, wait a minute.
• 10:32
  Matt: No, no, no, no.
• 10:33
  Matt: It's because we're not figuring I was gonna say the golden rule, but the the go that the question isn't asking, is there a is there a rule without exception?
• 10:44
  Matt: Yeah, it is what is it?
• 10:45
  Matt: Is there an exception to well isn't wait, those are the same things.
• 10:48
  Matt: We're really going around in circles in the first two minutes of this question.
• 10:51
  Eric: This is the paradox because the exception to the there's an exception to every rule is there's an exception to every rule.
• 11:00
  Eric: We we kind of start ising.
• 11:03
  Matt: Yes.
• 11:03
  Eric: Is is is is is is is is is is it depends on what the definition of your the word is is.
• 11:11
  Eric: Indubitably.
• 11:16
  Matt: Uh so are you are you saying that you have a starting point for us or no?
• 11:21
  Eric: Well what I'm saying is the exception so if there's an exception to every rule, the exception to the exception rule is that there's an exception to every rule.
• 11:32
  Eric: It is a self-feeding exception.
• 11:35
  Matt: If there's an exception, I'm gonna need hold on.
• 11:39
  Eric: I'm gonna I'm gonna see if I can fucking go puff you some psychedelics.
• 11:43
  unknown: Okay.
• 11:46
  Matt: Did you be mean or the listeners?
• 11:48
  Eric: Uh yes.
• 11:48
  Matt: Because they they might need some.
• 11:50
  Eric: You're gonna want those for this gang.
• 11:52
  Matt: I think okay, so uh taking as a s taken as a statement, yep, there is an exception to every rule, then this sentence needs to be whatever is the exception to that rule.
• 12:11
  Matt: And I think that is saying that there is a rule without exception.
• 12:15
  Matt: That there is a rule without exception.
• 12:17
  Eric: I I accept this premise.
• 12:19
  Matt: So that was a whole minute of us saying the same thing that I said originally.
• 12:24
  Matt: Correct.
• 12:25
  Eric: But now but now our listeners have deeper understanding and context for it, Matthew.
• 12:30
  Eric: And for that, I think they will appreciate you.
• 12:33
  Matt: I'm not sure they will.
• 12:34
  Matt: But so we are looking for the exception to the exception to every rule.
• 12:42
  Matt: I have already stated the golden rule is a candidate.
• 12:47
  Matt: Do on to the other you know the golden rule, yes.
• 12:50
  Matt: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 12:52
  Eric: Go on, Matthew.
• 12:54
  Eric: Tell me.
• 12:56
  Matt: I think the the golden rule do on to me, Matt.
• 13:04
  Matt: Oh man.
• 13:06
  Matt: Uh yes.
• 13:07
  Matt: Uh I will.
• 13:09
  Matt: I will I have done on to you many times.
• 13:12
  Matt: I have done on to him.
• 13:13
  Matt: Just as you would do onto me.
• 13:16
  Eric: It has the same like emotional place in my head as like I have known her.
• 13:23
  Eric: I have known her.
• 13:24
  Eric: Capital K, biblical sense.
• 13:27
  Eric: I have done onto him.
• 13:29
  Matt: So but but but but but but to say that the golden rule has an exception is to say, do unto others as there you would have them to do unto you, unless they're a douchebag.
• 13:41
  Matt: You know, like what is it?
• 13:43
  Matt: Like, yeah, is there an is could can there be an exception to that rule?
• 13:47
  Eric: Oh, of course there's an exception to that rule.
• 13:49
  Eric: So, so so I can think of uh uh so okay.
• 13:52
  Eric: So let's say I'm gonna throw out an arbitrary example.
• 13:54
  Eric: So let's say I have I I have boneitis.
• 13:59
  Eric: And my my skeleton, I go into attack, and uh my skeletonis.
• 14:05
  Matt: And what is bonitis?
• 14:06
  Eric: It's a fictional disease where my skeleton attempts to escape my body.
• 14:10
  Eric: Um my skeleton realizes that it is wearing a that it is wet at all times, and it is wearing a suit made of meat, and it tries to escape my body, and you see that I am having a bonitis attack.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_04: I see it.
• 14:25
  Eric: And you have to like forcefully restrain me and punch my bones back into my body.
• 14:30
  Eric: Now, obviously, I would never want you to punch me in my bones, Matt.
• 14:35
  Eric: And you wouldn't want me to punch you in your bones, but you know that since I'm having a bonitus attack, that you have to do that.
• 14:43
  Matt: Yes.
• 14:44
  Matt: Well, do I have to punch you though, or can I just grip you strongly?
• 14:48
  Eric: No, it's the only known treatment for bonitus.
• 14:51
  Eric: You have to punch my bones really hard.
• 14:54
  Matt: Okay, okay, but uh all right, but uh aren't I punching really the muscles and stuff first?
• 15:00
  Eric: No, no, the skeleton's coming out.
• 15:01
  Eric: It's it's advanced at this point.
• 15:03
  Eric: It's the only way.
• 15:04
  Eric: This is like the tourniquet of bonitis.
• 15:07
  Matt: I hate to derail us, but how exactly is the skeleton coming out exactly?
• 15:11
  Matt: Like, how does it fight against the muscle prison it's in?
• 15:15
  Eric: Uh, that's kind of the paradox.
• 15:17
  Eric: Well, that's the part of bonitis that kills.
• 15:18
  Matt: Well, a new another paradox.
• 15:20
  Eric: Yeah, well, because the skeleton can only get so far because it has to use muscles to get itself out.
• 15:24
  Eric: Basically, I'm like a soft shell crab at that point.
• 15:27
  Eric: Like, I'm shucking, I'm shucking my skeleton.
• 15:31
  Matt: Okay, yes.
• 15:32
  Matt: All right, sure.
• 15:34
  Eric: Yeah.
• 15:34
  Eric: I don't know what happens once the skeleton's out.
• 15:37
  Eric: Skeleton has not that far ahead.
• 15:39
  Matt: No, but I I don't mean how it how is it actually getting out independent of the muscles.
• 15:45
  Eric: Well, it's not up until the last bit, like, so it gets a strong start, because at the start, it's got all the muscles behind it.
• 15:52
  Eric: That's why it's got to be careful.
• 15:53
  Eric: But like, as it backs out at that point, it's just like using what little tendons and stuff are attached, so they kind of like squeeze it.
• 16:00
  Eric: Right, like kind of last bit of toothpaste itself out of me.
• 16:03
  Matt: Got it, got it.
• 16:04
  Matt: Okay, so there I am now punching you real hard in your wailing on my skeleton.
• 16:10
  Matt: Yes, just wailing on the skeleton.
• 16:13
  Eric: Indiscriminately punching the shit out of my skeleton.
• 16:16
  Matt: Now, I and I what now I have to say.
• 16:19
  Matt: And my skeleton will fight back.
• 16:22
  Matt: I d okay.
• 16:23
  Matt: Uh I I I feel like you're just trying to get me to fight you.
• 16:27
  Matt: Uh now.
• 16:28
  Matt: No, no, no.
• 16:28
  Matt: You're fighting the skeleton.
• 16:30
  Matt: Okay, so I'm fighting it.
• 16:32
  Matt: So what are you doing?
• 16:32
  Eric: If your skeleton screaming, what do you punch me screaming at the apologizing while I can still articulate sentences?
• 16:42
  Matt: And then I would naturally be apologizing whilst whilst raining down blows upon your various bones, begging you to keep punching my skeleton.
• 16:54
  Eric: I'm sorry.
• 16:57
  Matt: But I would say it's not to completely negate this little tangent.
• 17:01
  Matt: Uh-huh.
• 17:01
  Matt: But if I had bonitis, I'd want you to do the same to me.
• 17:04
  Eric: I wouldn't fucking punch a skeleton.
• 17:05
  Eric: That's gross.
• 17:08
  Eric: No, I I would I and I thought and I realized that halfway through explaining it, but I was like, I'm too I'm in too deep now.
• 17:14
  Eric: Uh yeah, if you had bonitis and your skeleton's trying to escape, I'd punch the shit out of your bones, man.
• 17:20
  Matt: I mean, I guess the exception is.
• 17:22
  Matt: Yeah.
• 17:22
  Matt: Thank you.
• 17:23
  Matt: I guess the exception is if you are a uh bad person or just want to do harm to somebody, then that is the exception to, well, I don't want this person to do harm to me, but I'd sure want to harm them.
• 17:38
  Eric: I think I'm centering in on it to the exception, to the exception rule.
• 17:42
  Eric: And we already said it.
• 17:44
  Matt: Okay.
• 17:45
  Matt: I love when we already answer questions before we know we did.
• 17:49
  Eric: And and and and this is gonna take like we're we're entering the metaphysical plane.
• 17:54
  Matt: We are just now we're entering bonitus deep.
• 17:58
  Eric: We dipped our toes in.
• 17:59
  Eric: Now the ayahuasca's truly kicking in, my friend.
• 18:01
  Eric: Okay.
• 18:02
  Eric: Uh the exception to there is an exception every rule is is.
• 18:15
  Matt: I thought you wanted me to come in with the answer.
• 18:17
  Eric: No, that's it.
• 18:18
  Eric: Is is the example.
• 18:20
  Matt: Is the word is?
• 18:21
  Eric: Yeah, like just is as a statement, like to be.
• 18:24
  Eric: Because existence by default exists.
• 18:28
  Matt: Uh-huh.
• 18:28
  Eric: Do you know what I mean?
• 18:30
  Matt: No.
• 18:34
  Matt: Yeah, okay.
• 18:34
  Matt: You're saying that I think I get what you're trying to communicate that this you're just being.
• 18:41
  Matt: You can't refute something existing.
• 18:44
  Eric: Sure.
• 18:45
  Eric: You like, or rather, like just the and and like there it is.
• 18:49
  Eric: Yeah, there it is.
• 18:51
  Eric: There's not an exception to that moment, to that burst of being.
• 18:56
  Matt: Oh, oh, okay.
• 18:57
  Matt: All right.
• 18:57
  Matt: So you're saying like the act of simply existing cannot be contradicted.
• 19:04
  Matt: That that a that a thing is in existence.
• 19:08
  Matt: It either is or it isn't.
• 19:10
  Matt: And like if it exists or it doesn't exist.
• 19:13
  Matt: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Matt: And so I guess what you could have said is uh the exception is existence, not the word is.
• 19:20
  Matt: Is we're ising.
• 19:25
  Matt: Yeah, we sure are ising.
• 19:28
  Matt: We uh this qualifies as ising for sure.
• 19:31
  Matt: Yep.
• 19:32
  Matt: Yep.
• 19:33
  Matt: I mean, I and I think you're right.
• 19:34
  Matt: I mean, you can't well wait a minute.
• 19:38
  Matt: Oh, so there what about theory?
• 19:43
  Matt: Because isn't theory just the theoretical existence?
• 19:48
  Eric: Well, yes, but that's theoretical.
• 19:50
  Eric: Like that that implies that it's qualifying.
• 19:53
  Eric: So I would say that theoretically, something is a theory until the exceptions are gone.
• 20:01
  Matt: You know what I mean?
• 20:02
  Matt: That's that's just science.
• 20:04
  Matt: Like Bill Nye taught me that.
• 20:06
  Eric: And I'm talking hard physics here.
• 20:08
  Eric: Yes.
• 20:09
  Eric: Um, yeah, like once we have reached the once we because that's what we do in science, is like we try to find the null hypothesis.
• 20:16
  Eric: And when you theorize something, you immediately try to like you're you're trying to prove that it it's wrong.
• 20:22
  Eric: That it can't, like, that it can't be.
• 20:24
  Eric: And once you can't not do that, or once you can't like disprove something, then it must be.
• 20:33
  Eric: We're about to welcome to our podcast on string theory.
• 20:36
  Eric: I'm Eric Bas.
• 20:37
  Matt: I'm confused.
• 20:38
  Matt: Um, so but okay, but no, I mean I think you're right.
• 20:41
  Matt: Like something either it has a concrete existence in this in this physical world, or it does not.
• 20:49
  unknown: Yeah.
• 20:50
  Eric: And if it doesn't exist, then it can't exist to have an exception.
• 20:54
  Eric: Like, you know what I mean?
• 20:55
  Matt: Like it it is Unless you count the ex unless you count like it will exist as a uh you know, something being made is like it doesn't exist yet, but it will exist.
• 21:08
  Matt: Is that the exception?
• 21:10
  Eric: But even that's a theory, even like that's a that is a theory of something to come.
• 21:14
  Matt: I suppose actually, if you take like, I don't know, take it take anything, take this mouse sitting in front of me.
• 21:20
  Matt: If this computer mouse, it it doesn't exist until all its parts are put together into one thing.
• 21:27
  Matt: But technically, when you go into that assembly line and the various pieces of plastic and the it's a little laser and all that stuff is going into go like technically, it already exists, it's just it hasn't been put together yet.
• 21:40
  Matt: Just like you might have all the ingredients to a cookie sitting in your bakery shelf, but until you mix them just so the cookie doesn't exist yet.
• 21:51
  Matt: Or does it?
• 21:56
  Eric: Fucking the podcast of Theseus is what we've been.
• 22:03
  Matt: But you know what I'm saying?
• 22:04
  Eric: No, I know, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 22:06
  Matt: Like you know how many times I've turned to Lindsay and said, like, man, I wish we had cookies.
• 22:11
  Matt: Oh, you know what?
• 22:12
  Matt: We sort of do when you think about it, because we got flour and sugar and all this stuff just sitting there waiting for me to put it in the kitchen aid.
• 22:20
  Matt: You have theoretical.
• 22:22
  Matt: You're right.
• 22:23
  Matt: We theoretically have cookies, so we've answered it.
• 22:25
  Eric: Yeah, we've answered it.
• 22:26
  Eric: So there it is.
• 22:27
  Matt: You either exist or you don't exist, Hyundai.
• 22:32
  Eric: There is no, yeah, there is no exception to either of those things.
• 22:35
  Matt: The Elantra is either put together or it's not.
• 22:38
  Eric: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Eric: Like you can't say, oh, I don't exist, but I'm like, no, like you either we got it.
• 22:44
  Matt: You know, we have two BSs in theater and we got it.
• 22:48
  Matt: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Matt: We got it together.
• 22:50
  Matt: Who needs a higher education to understand string theory?
• 22:55
  Matt: Am I right?
• 22:56
  Eric: God damn right.
• 22:57
  Matt: We put it together.
• 22:58
  Matt: Okay.
• 22:58
  Matt: You know, Eric, I hate to say it, but we might have been a little out of our depth on that one.
• 23:04
  Matt: You want to hit us with another question?
• 23:06
  Eric: Oh, yes, I do.
• 23:07
  Eric: Alright.
• 23:08
  Eric: So this one comes in.
• 23:10
  Eric: So this is a twofer, Matthew, and it's the most adorable twofer ever.
• 23:15
  Matt: We got well, so this is I th and I should say this is a result of our, you know, our Instagram polls.
• 23:22
  Matt: I did prompt it.
• 23:24
  Matt: But can continue, please.
• 23:26
  Eric: Uh so we got two questions uh about the same subject from two different people.
• 23:35
  Eric: But then there's an adorable twist.
• 23:39
  Eric: Uh the first question is what did Wishbone do in retirement?
• 23:46
  Eric: What did he buy with all that TV money?
• 23:48
  Eric: Of course, referring to uh TV's beloved dog, Wishbone.
• 23:52
  Matt: The greatest actor of our generation, I think you mean.
• 23:56
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 23:57
  Eric: And that was from Sarah Feldman on Instagram, previous guest of the show, an amazing human.
• 24:03
  Eric: Of course.
• 24:03
  Eric: The second question we got from a different person.
• 24:07
  Eric: In the same household.
• 24:09
  Eric: In the same household, here comes the adorable twist.
• 24:13
  Eric: Why hasn't Wishbone appeared on Inside the Actors Studio?
• 24:17
  Eric: And that's from Carissa Hatfield also on Instagram, and the partner of Sarah Feldman.
• 24:22
  Eric: You two are so precious, I could die.
• 24:24
  Matt: Good friends of the pod all around.
• 24:26
  Eric: Good friends of the pod.
• 24:28
  Eric: They sent us two different I like to think they were sitting down at dinner, being being fucking pure beings of energy that they are, and just like debating which wishbone question they wanted to send in.
• 24:41
  Eric: They had a whole list.
• 24:43
  Matt: They had a list of twelve and they they narrowed it down.
• 24:47
  Eric: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Eric: So this is perfect.
• 24:48
  Eric: We're gonna hit we're gonna do both of these at the same time.
• 24:51
  Matt: Now I gotta say, I want to come out real real clear right from the get-go.
• 24:55
  Eric: I Oh fuck, here comes the hot take.
• 24:57
  Matt: No, no hot take.
• 24:58
  Matt: This I cannot possibly here comes the cold take.
• 25:02
  Matt: I cannot possibly overstate how large of a role in my life Wishbone has played.
• 25:10
  Matt: I would go to Zany Brainy just to watch on their big screen Wishbone films and and T you know, because it was TV shows, but like each one was a a small epic to me.
• 25:26
  Matt: You know, the range of this dog also the yes, yeah to be able to play these various roles, to go from playing uh uh Robin Hood and Odysseus to playing Dot D'Antagnol to playing Dr.
• 25:44
  Matt: Frankenstein.
• 25:46
  Matt: The man, the man, the the dog is uh inconquerable in terms of resume.
• 25:53
  Eric: The best, like unironically, my favorite uh iteration of Sherlock Holmes.
• 25:58
  Matt: Oh my god, his Sherlock Holmes is great.
• 26:00
  Matt: Sherlock Holmes without parallel.
• 26:01
  Matt: Without parallel, and also from my my early gaming life, the wishbone odyssey game for PC.
• 26:09
  Matt: I never played the game.
• 26:10
  Matt: Holy shit, I played it all the time.
• 26:12
  Matt: I had a wishbone stuffed animal that was a big part of my childhood.
• 26:16
  Matt: Uh I had like a wishbone picture in my wallet for a good chunk of time.
• 26:23
  Matt: Uh so I will say all this to say.
• 26:27
  Matt: I fucking love Wishbone, man.
• 26:29
  Eric: I fucking love Wishbone.
• 26:30
  Eric: Played by uh I the the dog is just so perfect.
• 26:34
  Eric: The name of the dog is is soccer.
• 26:36
  Eric: Yes.
• 26:36
  Eric: That was the name of the dog who played Wishbone.
• 26:39
  Eric: Um just give I'm just gonna give a little bit of background information.
• 26:43
  Eric: Um he was he was he started his career like many uh television commercials for like Nike and Dog Food, um, but became famous for playing Wishbone for pretty much the show's entire goddamn run.
• 26:59
  Eric: Over a hundred dogs auditioned for the role.
• 27:01
  Eric: He got it, and he was on in almost every episode of the show uh from 1995 to 1998.
• 27:09
  Eric: Uh he lived with his trainer, Jackie Martin Captain, on the Plano, Texas ranch, where the series was filmed, and he lived there until he passed away in 2001.
• 27:19
  Eric: All right.
• 27:20
  Eric: Uh, and all of this is from Wikipedia, please donate today.
• 27:23
  Eric: Um yeah, and he has a son.
• 27:27
  Eric: Uh his son.
• 27:28
  Eric: The son of wishbone.
• 27:29
  Matt: Why haven't we gotten the son of wishbone movie?
• 27:33
  Eric: I I fucking know.
• 27:35
  Eric: And his son has such a badass name.
• 27:37
  Eric: Um oh wait, no, never mind.
• 27:39
  Eric: It's not his son.
• 27:40
  Eric: Oh god.
• 27:41
  Eric: His sire.
• 27:42
  Eric: His his dad.
• 27:43
  Eric: Oh, Eric.
• 27:45
  Eric: Well, what's his dad's name?
• 27:46
  Eric: I know.
• 27:47
  Eric: His dad's name is pretty bad.
• 27:48
  Eric: His dad sounds like a like a Sumerian like god king.
• 27:53
  Eric: His his his sire is Blancartha Banbone.
• 27:56
  Matt: Oh my god, that's the name of the mummy.
• 28:00
  Eric: You invoke the name of Blenkartha Wishbone.
• 28:03
  Matt: Yeah, man, that's a Lovecraft character.
• 28:05
  Eric: I know.
• 28:06
  Eric: It's it's some wild shit.
• 28:08
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 28:09
  Eric: So Soccer the Dog was fucking cool.
• 28:11
  Eric: Fucking soccer, man.
• 28:12
  Eric: And he lived his best dog life.
• 28:14
  Eric: He got to be Wishbone.
• 28:15
  Eric: He he lived on a fucking ranch, died at the ripe old age of 13.
• 28:20
  Matt: Absolutely.
• 28:21
  Matt: So, um, just real quick to go back to what the actual questions were.
• 28:28
  Matt: What did he do in retirement?
• 28:30
  Matt: I think maybe you just provided us the real answer.
• 28:35
  Eric: But like, yeah, we know he lived on the ranch, but like, how did he spend his days?
• 28:39
  Eric: Like, you know what I mean?
• 28:40
  Eric: Like, what did like what?
• 28:41
  Matt: Yeah, what did the day-to-day look like?
• 28:45
  Eric: Yeah.
• 28:45
  Eric: Was he a working dog?
• 28:47
  Eric: Was he ranch was he ranching them animals?
• 28:51
  Matt: There is no way I will allow the narrative to be that he did that.
• 28:58
  Matt: That he was put in that he went from TV stardom to working.
• 29:03
  Matt: Well, he's a terrier, though.
• 29:05
  Eric: Like they lit, like they love having a job to do.
• 29:07
  Eric: Yeah.
• 29:08
  Eric: He's a Jack Russell Terrier.
• 29:09
  Eric: Hold on, let me look up some info on Jack Russell Terrier.
• 29:12
  Matt: You know the other famous Jack Russell Terrier from another beloved show of mine, Fraser.
• 29:18
  Matt: You know what the name of the actor who played Eddie was.
• 29:22
  Eric: No.
• 29:22
  Eric: What was the name of it?
• 29:23
  Matt: Moose.
• 29:26
  Matt: He was on the cover of like Rolling Stone once.
• 29:29
  Matt: But he was also Jack Russell.
• 29:31
  Matt: Nice.
• 29:32
  Matt: Good TV dice.
• 29:33
  Eric: Yeah.
• 29:33
  Eric: Jack Russell.
• 29:34
  Eric: Oh, Jack Russell's are usually uh sorry, Jack Russell, they're like they're they are working, they they're very energetic.
• 29:39
  Eric: They need something to do.
• 29:40
  Eric: They need like an outlet.
• 29:41
  Eric: Terriers are typically used for like fox hunting and stuff.
• 29:44
  Eric: Um so I'm I imagine I'm I I I think I think a Jack Terry Russell after after having to wait on set and be like, Can you imagine how hard that is?
• 29:53
  Eric: Can I just talk about Wishbone's journey with Matthew?
• 29:56
  Eric: Can I just talk about what it's like being a young Jack Russell Terrier?
• 30:00
  Eric: You you outdid a hundred different dogs, and now you're like you're spending like the next like four or five years.
• 30:08
  Eric: You gotta sit, you gotta wait, you gotta like wait for your cues, you gotta like hold you gotta hold all that boundless energy in.
• 30:15
  Eric: And then you retire and you're all like, welcome, dog.
• 30:18
  Eric: We're living on a ranch.
• 30:19
  Eric: You could do you could run all day long if you want.
• 30:23
  Matt: Now you do you also I'm so happy.
• 30:26
  Eric: I'm I'm so happy for soccer.
• 30:27
  Matt: I'm happy for soccer.
• 30:29
  Matt: Uh, you know, I I I want you to know that Larry Brantley, the voice actor who played uh the voice of Wishbone.
• 30:39
  Eric: Also a gift.
• 30:40
  Matt: Also a gift.
• 30:41
  Matt: Uh he was uh he went on to do the voice acting in the animated project for children called Bose the Bear.
• 30:48
  Matt: Maybe it's Boz the Bear.
• 30:50
  Matt: And he was Corporal Franklin Paddock and Brothers in Arms.
• 30:55
  Matt: But right now, he currently stands as a cast member.
• 30:59
  Matt: This is on Wikipedia, so maybe it's not 100% up to date.
• 31:02
  Matt: He stands as a cast member at the Medieval Times dinner and tournament in Dallas.
• 31:08
  Matt: Oh I love a medieval times.
• 31:11
  Eric: I do love fucking medieval times.
• 31:13
  Eric: I hope he's having a time of life.
• 31:14
  Matt: I hope he's having a time of his life.
• 31:16
  Matt: I hope that's his choice.
• 31:19
  Eric: I hope that he is getting everything out of medieval times that he wants and desires.
• 31:24
  Matt: I hope that is why he's there.
• 31:27
  Matt: I hope he doesn't.
• 31:28
  Matt: When they introduce you.
• 31:30
  Matt: I hope he does not drink himself to sleep with mead every night.
• 31:35
  Matt: I hope he doesn't go around because right now he's like in his 50s.
• 31:39
  Matt: He must be.
• 31:39
  Matt: So he's he's playing like the king now.
• 31:42
  Matt: He's got to.
• 31:43
  Eric: He's got one of the knights.
• 31:46
  Eric: He's playing the king.
• 31:47
  Eric: It's like the opposite.
• 31:48
  Eric: It's like, you know how like you have the trope of like the fallen ruler, and he's like, I was once a king.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_04: Like for him, it was like, I was once a dog.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_04: I once played Robin Hood and Sherlock Holmes in the same season.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: I made a generation literate.
• 32:09
  Matt: Yes.
• 32:10
  Matt: So, okay, so here we are on the ranch.
• 32:13
  Matt: Um we're on the ranch.
• 32:15
  Matt: We're on the ranch, and I think Wishbone, that is to say, soccer, is having I don't think he was put to work though.
• 32:25
  Matt: I I mean, sure he wants a job, but I don't think he, you know, spent his days wrangling up cattle or whatever that it is that Jack Russell's do on a ranch.
• 32:35
  Eric: I agree with that.
• 32:36
  Eric: And Matt, I think I thought of a wonderful way to answer both of these questions, like meld them together smoothly.
• 32:41
  Eric: Oh.
• 32:42
  Matt: Look at you.
• 32:43
  Matt: So full wishbone out.
• 32:44
  Eric: So Matt.
• 32:45
  Eric: Alright.
• 32:46
  Eric: So follow me here.
• 32:47
  Matt: I'm following.
• 32:48
  Eric: Imagine, imagine.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_04: If you will.
• 32:51
  Eric: A car, uh, a very, a very like stately and respectable car pulling up to this ranch.
• 33:00
  Eric: Out of the car steps none other than James Lipton.
• 33:03
  Matt: Fucking love him.
• 33:04
  Eric: Who has come to the ranch to film an episode of Inside the United States?
• 33:10
  Matt: I just I you do know that he passed away last year, right?
• 33:13
  Eric: I do.
• 33:15
  Eric: And he's a gift to fucking all mankind.
• 33:18
  Eric: But like this, this would have happened at the height of Wishbones.
• 33:21
  Eric: This would have like happened in Wishbones like 20 years ago.
• 33:23
  Matt: I just wanted to make sure you knew the American legend.
• 33:26
  Eric: Well, you know, fucking soccer the dog's been dead for 20 years.
• 33:29
  Matt: Yes, you didn't need to bring that back up.
• 33:32
  Eric: Okay.
• 33:33
  Eric: So that's how we're gonna answer it.
• 33:35
  Eric: We're we're we're we're gonna hit this actor's interview.
• 33:37
  Eric: We're gonna find out this James Lipton finding out like about Soccer the Dog's retirement life.
• 33:43
  Eric: What's your favorite curse word?
• 33:44
  Eric: What's your are you are you a good boy?
• 33:50
  Eric: Who is a good boy?
• 33:51
  Eric: Are you a good boy?
• 33:53
  Eric: I fucking love this.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, his blue card questions could go on forever.
• 33:58
  Eric: It's so good.
• 33:59
  Eric: Um, I imagine I like to imagine, and we're just playing in the space.
• 34:02
  Eric: We're doing this wishbone style.
• 34:03
  Eric: Hell yeah.
• 34:03
  Eric: Like wishbone's looking out the window.
• 34:05
  Eric: Poach is looking out the window like Wishbone, and imagining he was Wishbone.
• 34:08
  Matt: Oh yes.
• 34:09
  Eric: Um, and like the car pulls up and and James Lipton walks out, and like Soccer's owner, Jackie Martin Captain, obviously, uh greets James Lipton.
• 34:20
  Eric: He's like, you know, they're they're shaking hands and exchanging pleasantries, and James asks where Soccer is.
• 34:25
  Eric: He's like, oh, here he comes now.
• 34:26
  Eric: And you see a horse cresting a hill.
• 34:30
  Eric: And like, like clapping on, and you see soccer the dog in full like riding gear.
• 34:35
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 34:36
  Eric: He's been he's been having a good old, he's been having a good old, a good old ride.
• 34:39
  Matt: Because he does like his clothes.
• 34:42
  Eric: Yes, he does.
• 34:43
  Eric: He's in the little the little horse rider, he's got the little the little helmet.
• 34:45
  Matt: Yes, oh yes.
• 34:46
  Matt: He's got the boots, got the boots, he's got the little boots.
• 34:49
  Eric: Oh, it's fucking precious.
• 34:51
  Eric: And he's holding, he doesn't use the crop, but he's holding it in his teeth.
• 34:53
  Eric: Like he's it's a chew toy for him.
• 34:55
  Eric: Yes.
• 34:55
  Matt: He just wants to play with it.
• 34:57
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:58
  Eric: Uh in this reality, Soccer the Dog can talk.
• 35:02
  Eric: And uh, and yeah, and they and they greet each other and and they get set up for this interview, and James Lipton asks Soccer the Dog, like, what retired life is like.
• 35:10
  Eric: And I feel like, I feel like, I feel like our dog, our our boy soccer is like riding horses.
• 35:17
  Eric: I feel like our boy just wants to go fast all the time.
• 35:20
  Eric: Like he's got all this boundless energy that he's not been able to release.
• 35:23
  Matt: Sure.
• 35:24
  Matt: So so it's okay, so they're sitting down.
• 35:26
  Eric: And I feel like I feel like like one of the first questions James Lipton would ask, I'm gonna ask the question as James Lipton, you answer it, Matthew.
• 35:32
  Matt: As soccer the dog.
• 35:33
  Eric: As if you were soccer the dog.
• 35:34
  Eric: Uh, you don't have to delete duo voice, but tell me what you think soccer's answer would be.
• 35:38
  Eric: Uh so what are you working on out here in the ranch in your spare time?
• 35:44
  Matt: Well, James, you know, I've put a lot of uh I've put a lot of time into working on other people's lives, on other people's care, you know, these characters that I've embodied, you know, over 50 episodes.
• 35:59
  Matt: Um technically only two seasons, but 50 episodes worth of of stories that I've given uh so many parts of myself to other people.
• 36:10
  Matt: Uh I I think it's time to start working on me.
• 36:13
  Matt: So I've been out here in Plano, Texas, just uh just trying to find what it means to be soccer.
• 36:22
  Eric: You know.
• 36:23
  Eric: And what answers have you found soccer?
• 36:25
  Matt: Uh well, um, I have found that I'm very much into polo.
• 36:32
  Matt: Um this is uh this is my horse, Gideon.
• 36:37
  Eric: Um I like to imagine James Lipton pets the horse.
• 36:42
  Eric: Okay.
• 36:44
  Matt: He has a sugar cube ready.
• 36:45
  Matt: Uh James, please, please don't pet Gideon.
• 36:48
  Matt: He's very temperamental.
• 36:50
  Matt: Um I also enjoy um milk bones.
• 36:58
  Eric: Uh there have I I'm sure you've heard the rumors that people are talking about your time spent here in soccer.
• 37:06
  Eric: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Eric: And they wonder when will he take the stage again?
• 37:10
  Eric: Yeah.
• 37:11
  Eric: Is that chapter in your life closed, or is there perhaps a chance for a new life for you on the stage?
• 37:17
  Matt: You know, never say never, James.
• 37:18
  Matt: Never say never.
• 37:19
  Matt: But I uh, you know, I just feel as though I've told so many stories.
• 37:25
  Matt: Um I want to know wh who's telling my story.
• 37:30
  Matt: You know?
• 37:31
  Matt: Good boy.
• 37:32
  Matt: Good boy.
• 37:34
  Eric: Yeah, I feel like he would, he would, he was just like good boy, good boy.
• 37:37
  Eric: So um And what would your James Lipton ask?
• 37:44
  Matt: Uh well, so he does have those set questions, such as what is your favorite curse word?
• 37:49
  Matt: So he would he would uh of course ask this.
• 37:51
  Matt: But the you know, I think uh I think what we've done here is create a very nice inside the actors studio uh uh uh sit-in, set in.
• 38:04
  Matt: Stand in, there's the word, sit-in and set in for some reason came first.
• 38:09
  Matt: Stand in for what should have been the inside the actors episode uh studio episode featuring Wishbone.
• 38:17
  Eric: 100%.
• 38:18
  Matt: Um now as to why he didn't appear on Inside the Actors Studio, I think Do you think him and James Lipton had a falling out?
• 38:27
  Matt: Uh perhaps, uh perhaps he was not accepted into the actor studio for some reason.
• 38:33
  Matt: Uh I would assume I would assume discrimination against dogs.
• 38:37
  Eric: Matt, there's nothing in the rules that says a dog can't be inside the actor studio.
• 38:42
  Matt: Yeah, it was this is actually the inspiration for Airbud.
• 38:46
  Eric: Oh my god, how wild would that be?
• 38:48
  Eric: That is my head, that is that is my head canon.
• 38:51
  Eric: That airbud was made as a protest.
• 38:54
  Eric: It was it was super it was super metaphorical.
• 38:57
  Eric: Yes, and it was meant it was it was like a a stinger against James Lipton.
• 39:01
  Eric: He's like, How could you, James?
• 39:02
  Matt: How could you?
• 39:04
  Eric: Um so yes, they say James repented on his death.
• 39:07
  Matt: I think dog discrimination is the reason that uh we didn't see it, and um, but but hopefully, hopefully our interpretation of these events can stand in uh for Wishbone over on his ranch in Plano, Texas.
• 39:21
  Matt: We are supporters of dog suffrage on this podcast.
• 39:24
  Matt: Absolutely we are.
• 39:25
  Matt: So uh Eric, should we wrap things up with uh another question?
• 39:29
  Eric: Absolutely.
• 39:30
  Eric: Also, Chris uh Sarah, thank you again, you pure beings of light.
• 39:34
  Matt: Yes, absolutely.
• 39:35
  Matt: And if anyone has follow-up questions on Wishbone or any other film canine, by all means submit them today.
• 39:44
  Eric: Send us your favorite Wishbone outfits.
• 39:48
  Matt: Yes, yes.
• 39:49
  Matt: Uh there's a future definitive ranking in that, I I feel like.
• 39:53
  Eric: Yes, oh 100% there is.
• 39:56
  Matt: Uh one 50 to 1.
• 39:58
  Matt: Uh, so uh our last question for the day, Eric, comes from Eva LaVita Loca on Instagram.
• 40:07
  Eric: Eva.
• 40:09
  Matt: Uh what is our technological dilemma going to be when millennials are in their sixties?
• 40:19
  Eric: So what so what thing is going to be invented when we're yeah, like what we in our sixties.
• 40:25
  Matt: What thing is gonna be invented that we just can't like Yeah, I think they're saying like how do I Exactly like the way people can't figure out the way boomers can't figure out a router.
• 40:39
  Eric: Yeah.
• 40:40
  Eric: I feel like we're gonna hit the ground running when hover cars and shit hit the market, because we have been braced for that.
• 40:48
  Eric: But there's gotta be something that like it's gotta be something that we did not see coming or predicted would come.
• 40:54
  Matt: You know what I mean?
• 40:55
  Matt: I don't know that I a hundred percent.
• 40:58
  Matt: Yeah, it ha I it is hard to answer this because it has to be something that we don't it has to be something that we don't expect because like we grew up with touch screens and you know, even even I, you know, something that came to mind that's relatively like gaining steam now, virtual reality.
• 41:20
  Matt: You know, but I've been waiting for that.
• 41:22
  Matt: You know, I've been waiting to live my ready player one life my whole life.
• 41:28
  Eric: Oh Matt, let me I I I do have an idea though.
• 41:32
  Eric: Hit me.
• 41:33
  Eric: Uh and and we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna come at this from the other direction.
• 41:37
  Eric: Uh-huh.
• 41:38
  Eric: So assuming the resource war is hit pretty hard in the next couple of decades.
• 41:43
  Matt: I think it's a good assumption.
• 41:44
  Eric: I think our technological struggles are going to be like starting a fire and building a shelter.
• 41:52
  Matt: Oh.
• 41:52
  Matt: You think those are gonna be struggles for Oh, yeah.
• 41:55
  Eric: When we're in our Mad Max mode.
• 41:56
  Matt: You think those are gonna be struggles for all of us, Eric?
• 42:00
  Eric: Okay, Eagle Scout.
• 42:01
  Matt: Or do you think perhaps the Boy Scout dropouts will be struggling?
• 42:07
  Eric: Matt, let's get this out of the way right now.
• 42:09
  Eric: When the shit hits the fan, I will I will absolutely be bending the knee to the boy, the the scouts of America.
• 42:16
  Matt: This is a real story.
• 42:17
  Eric: Somebody asked me Because I imagine the girl, the Girl Scouts, and the Boy Scouts will be joining forces.
• 42:21
  Eric: This is a real thing.
• 42:22
  Matt: At the show I'm doing right now, Every Brilliant Thing at Single Care Theater.
• 42:26
  Matt: Somebody asked me pre-show, because they knew I was a Boy Scout.
• 42:30
  Matt: They were like, show me a knot.
• 42:32
  Matt: And this was the first time that it's been asked of me.
• 42:35
  Eric: Dance, monkey, dance.
• 42:36
  Matt: And I did.
• 42:37
  Matt: I presented them with a tautline hit.
• 42:40
  Eric: Hell yeah.
• 42:41
  Eric: Okay, okay.
• 42:42
  Eric: But this is exactly why, and I know I've mentioned this before, and we will make good on this.
• 42:47
  Eric: I want an entire episode about the scouts.
• 42:49
  Eric: Just me and you.
• 42:50
  Eric: This is gonna be a QA, baby.
• 42:52
  Matt: But that just oh, you just you ask questions and I'm gonna answer.
• 42:55
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 42:56
  Eric: I just grill yo ass with questions from our listeners and myself.
• 43:01
  Eric: The listeners will be lucky if they get a hit in.
• 43:04
  Eric: All right.
• 43:04
  Matt: Well, submit your scout questions to us at you and ask for this at gmail.com and every other place.
• 43:10
  Eric: Yeah.
• 43:11
  Eric: But when when this when the boy and girl scouts form their their dread alliance, when the shit hits a fan, they just become the the scouts of what was formerly the United States of America.
• 43:22
  Eric: I will bend the knee.
• 43:23
  Matt: I do have to I will bend the knee.
• 43:24
  Matt: I do have to tell you that that has already happened.
• 43:27
  unknown: Oh.
• 43:27
  Matt: I mean, the the the organizations, the Girl Scouts are are still are still separate, but technically speaking, but Boy Scouts of America does uh accept uh female members now and have for about two years.
• 43:40
  Matt: Good.
• 43:41
  Matt: Uh so the resources this this fusion has happened.
• 43:45
  Eric: Okay, good.
• 43:46
  Matt: I know who I'm I know who I'm dipping my banner to when the shit hits the Yes, you will join my uh settlement.
• 43:56
  Eric: Yes.
• 43:57
  Eric: Your legion.
• 43:58
  Matt: Yes, I and I I
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: 410th.
• 44:00
  Matt: And I yes, and I will put you on the wall duty.
• 44:05
  Eric: That's fine.
• 44:05
  Eric: I'm very good at the duty.
• 44:08
  Eric: I am the watcher.
• 44:10
  Eric: I am the one who watches the walls.
• 44:12
  Eric: Yes, yes.
• 44:13
  Eric: That is fucking, yes.
• 44:14
  Eric: I can't wait.
• 44:15
  Eric: I would love to like and people approach and be like, gatekeeper.
• 44:19
  Eric: And I will just be like, come out and go.
• 44:21
  Eric: You will be the gatekeeper.
• 44:22
  Eric: Who heeds me?
• 44:26
  Eric: Hawk.
• 44:26
  Matt: And I'll talk into me.
• 44:28
  Matt: And then I'll toss you some more.
• 44:30
  Eric: Um, yes, good.
• 44:32
  Eric: Yeah, that's like you have to pay my my toll.
• 44:34
  Eric: Like that.
• 44:34
  Eric: It's it's purely ceremonial at this point.
• 44:38
  Matt: Okay, so anyway, yes.
• 44:39
  Matt: Yeah.
• 44:40
  Matt: In our settlement, you were saying.
• 44:42
  Eric: In our settlement.
• 44:43
  Eric: Uh so yeah, I would be the gatekeeper.
• 44:45
  Eric: I would definitely be struggling to learn like basic camping skills.
• 44:48
  Matt: Yeah, so you think we're just gonna revert back to how does work sow a field.
• 44:56
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:57
  Matt: Do you even sow a field?
• 44:58
  Matt: Did I use those words right?
• 45:00
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, you sow, you so or sow the crops.
• 45:02
  Matt: You sow a field of planting seeds.
• 45:04
  Matt: Yeah, see, I'm agricultural.
• 45:06
  Matt: Yeah.
• 45:08
  Matt: I could teach you how to garden.
• 45:09
  Matt: I'm basically farm.
• 45:14
  Matt: I hear we're real big upon among the farming population.
• 45:19
  Eric: Yes.
• 45:19
  Eric: So they were we're huge.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_04: All our farming listeners right now are driving their tractors straight through the corn in rage.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_04: They're almanacs flying.
• 45:33
  Matt: They're almanacs flying.
• 45:36
  Matt: Yes.
• 45:37
  Matt: Man, oh man, what will checkout lines be without the farmer's almanac hang?
• 45:42
  Eric: Dude, it's my favorite thing to serve.
• 45:43
  Eric: It's so aesthetically pleasing.
• 45:44
  Eric: Do you get it every year?
• 45:46
  Eric: Fuck no.
• 45:47
  Eric: I'm like looking at it in line.
• 45:48
  Eric: Why would I get it each year?
• 45:50
  Eric: If I ever want to read it, I can go to fucking food lion and pop it open to whatever section I want.
• 45:56
  Eric: Who's gonna stop me?
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, god damn, that was funny.
• 46:00
  Eric: Oh man.
• 46:00
  Eric: And uh, and like, and I know what you're thinking.
• 46:02
  Eric: Like, well, what if a farmer was standing behind your line?
• 46:04
  Eric: What would a farmer be doing at a food store?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_04: You they grow their own shit.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_04: I think you have a gross misunderstanding of what you're doing.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, Doug!
• 46:15
  Eric: I think you I think you're talking down to our farmers right now.
• 46:19
  Eric: If you think they can't grow everything they need.
• 46:20
  Eric: Oh, they're swerving back and forth through the corn in rage.
• 46:23
  Matt: I know.
• 46:23
  Matt: They're like, oh, they're woke, they suck.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_04: They're woke, they suck.
• 46:27
  Matt: They're throwing themselves into the top of the silos.
• 46:31
  Matt: They're they're drowning themselves in corn like like Danny Glover and Witness.
• 46:35
  Matt: Millet.
• 46:36
  Eric: Okay, so to kind of circle back, because I feel like I did an unfair thing while I was like, oh, post apocalypse.
• 46:42
  Eric: We talk about that so much on the show.
• 46:44
  Eric: We have brought it up multiple times.
• 46:45
  Eric: What technology do we think would get invented that would just be like beyond if we had to invent a technology that is beyond us, if we're getting back to the metaphysical shit.
• 46:54
  Matt: Do you think teleportation is actually a possibility?
• 47:00
  Eric: I feel like teleportation.
• 47:02
  Eric: Oh, possibility?
• 47:03
  Eric: We could talk about that.
• 47:05
  Eric: Let's assume that it is.
• 47:06
  Eric: Let's assume that teleportation gets invented.
• 47:09
  Eric: I I think teleportation might be a hard line for a lot of people in our generation.
• 47:13
  Matt: Yeah, I mean, I think uh you certainly that first time you gotta be super nervous to do it.
• 47:18
  Eric: Oh yeah.
• 47:19
  Eric: Especially because a lot of our generation has seen TNG and read those in-depth discussions on the message boards about whether or not a teleporter actually teleports you or whether it euthanizes you and you just get cloned on the other side.
• 47:31
  Eric: Interesting.
• 47:32
  Matt: Yep.
• 47:33
  Matt: Interesting.
• 47:34
  Eric: What if so, and I mentioned I would I would feel super the the balls it takes to step into a teleporter for the first time.
• 47:41
  Eric: Yeah.
• 47:41
  Matt: I feel like once you've done it, it's fine, but like there's no way the first test pro subject doesn't die.
• 47:48
  Matt: No, there's a zero percent chance it works.
• 47:51
  Eric: That's gonna be that's gonna be the new moon.
• 47:53
  Eric: That's gonna be like, I think that might be the only person who like displaces Neil Armstrong in terms of fucking that first step.
• 48:05
  Matt: Oh, interesting.
• 48:07
  Matt: Uh coming out strong against Neil Armstrong now.
• 48:09
  Matt: Uh so the uh uh Eagles go.
• 48:13
  Matt: Uh the so what I want to say now is I brought up the virtual reality thing earlier.
• 48:20
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:21
  Matt: Do we think if that if that accelerated to a point of a ready player one situation where it really feels like you're stepping into a different skin and a different a whole real fleshed out world, do we think we'd be able to adopt that as easily as we think we would?
• 48:44
  Eric: I think we would I think we would adapt it.
• 48:46
  Eric: I don't think we'd be getting the most out of it.
• 48:48
  Eric: I think there'd be an entire I think there will be a generation at some point that's essentially raised in VR.
• 48:53
  Eric: That's what I'm saying, because like in Ready Player One, they're basically We're gonna be in like the retirement home.
• 48:58
  Matt: Yeah, like basically in like Ready Player One and other such things, like basically the the the quote unquote real life basically happens in the game.
• 49:07
  Eric: Yeah.
• 49:08
  Matt: At that point.
• 49:09
  Matt: And your actual body is just like, oh man, fuck this thing.
• 49:13
  Eric: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Eric: I I I f I I feel like we would I feel like that by that point our generation would just be burnt out on screens.
• 49:21
  Eric: And like we just wouldn't have the stamina for it.
• 49:23
  Matt: We've gone beyond the screen.
• 49:25
  Eric: We've gone beyond the screen.
• 49:26
  Eric: It's just like we're still on our phones all fucking day in the retirement communities, but we we just can't are like ah, you know what?
• 49:33
  Eric: I just realized that that's the next step.
• 49:35
  Matt: We you know, first we invented the computer to eliminate books.
• 49:39
  Matt: Now then we eliminated the phone.
• 49:41
  Matt: Then we still got the smartphone to eliminate the computer.
• 49:44
  Matt: The only thing that's left is to eliminate the need to hold anything at all and somehow get it in our like just the screen is our eyes now.
• 49:53
  Matt: Like Google Glass, but cool.
• 49:55
  Eric: But like actual cool.
• 49:56
  Eric: Yeah.
• 49:57
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:58
  Eric: Fuck.
• 50:00
  Matt: Is that it?
• 50:00
  Matt: Like we have I think that's it.
• 50:02
  Eric: I think you're hitting eyes where we can just it's not so much the exact technology, it is just how how much of our life becomes that technology.
• 50:10
  Eric: Like we can handle being on our phones all day.
• 50:12
  Eric: I don't think we're gonna be able to handle VR all day.
• 50:15
  Matt: Uh yeah, and every day.
• 50:16
  Matt: I think at a certain point you forget where you where where the lie begins and where the truth ends.
• 50:24
  Eric: Yep.
• 50:25
  Matt: But uh I think so.
• 50:27
  Matt: I think those could be real struggles for us in in the next times.
• 50:32
  Matt: Because I could see, but uh I want because I want though that this is where I struggle with if this being the answer.
• 50:38
  Matt: I want that for myself.
• 50:40
  Matt: Like I want VR.
• 50:41
  Eric: Oh, fucking same.
• 50:42
  Eric: Well, there are always cool old people who are hip to shit.
• 50:45
  Matt: Oh, so you think we'll be fine, but everybody else is fine.
• 50:47
  Eric: Oh, we'll be fine.
• 50:48
  Eric: We can't die.
• 50:48
  Eric: We're we're awesome.
• 50:50
  Matt: Alright.
• 50:50
  Eric: Alright, sure.
• 50:51
  Eric: Yeah, we're getting a leg up ahead of everyone else because we're already accepting our limitations so that we can overcome them.
• 50:58
  Matt: Alright, I'm down with that.
• 51:00
  Matt: So uh we will adapt and everyone else won't.
• 51:03
  Eric: Yeah.
• 51:04
  Matt: As it should be.
• 51:06
  Eric: We're gonna become God kings of the internet.
• 51:08
  Eric: It'll be great.
• 51:09
  Matt: Yes, starting, of course, with this podcast.
• 51:12
  Eric: Of course.
• 51:13
  Matt: All right, well, Eva LaVita Loca, thank you for the question.
• 51:17
  Matt: Uh uh I I hope we uh provided you with some options of technology that we won't understand as millennials.
• 51:24
  Matt: Uh, but of course, Eric and I will.
• 51:27
  Matt: Uh that being said, Eric, would you like to transition now into uh some local legends?
• 51:33
  Eric: Oh boy, howdy, would I?
• 51:35
  Eric: Uh I gotta I got a pretty I got a nice short, sweet little local legend here.
• 51:38
  Eric: I I kind of want to talk more about it than just thanks.
• 51:41
  Eric: All right.
• 51:44
  Eric: Hit me with it.
• 51:44
  Eric: So so this again comes from Japan.
• 51:48
  Eric: Okay.
• 51:49
  Eric: Remember last time I gave us the butt eye demon?
• 51:52
  Matt: I don't think that was last time, but yes.
• 51:55
  Eric: Well, sorry, the last time I did a Japanese.
• 51:57
  Matt: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
• 51:58
  Matt: Okay, yes.
• 51:58
  Eric: Yeah, it was the butt eye demon.
• 52:00
  Eric: Uh now I wish to discuss with you the Bakezori.
• 52:06
  Eric: Uh which translated means ghost sandals.
• 52:11
  Eric: Okay.
• 52:12
  Eric: So uh and this is from uh yokai.com.
• 52:18
  Eric: It's like a it's like a repository of Japanese like demons and spirits and stuff.
• 52:22
  Eric: It's really cool.
• 52:23
  Matt: Okay.
• 52:24
  Eric: Uh when the straw sandals known as zuri have been mistreated and forgotten by their owners, they can transform into sandal demons called bakezuri.
• 52:36
  Eric: Uh so these sandal-shaped yokai sprout arms and legs from their bodies, and a single large eye, they really love the single large eye there.
• 52:45
  Eric: They really do.
• 52:46
  Eric: Uh, appears in their centers.
• 52:48
  Eric: They run about the house at night, causing mischief and making noise, and they have a favorite chant which they sing as they run about the house on their tiny feet.
• 52:56
  Matt: Do you know the chant?
• 52:57
  Eric: And it Oh yeah, I'll I'll say it in Japanese and I'll say it in English.
• 53:01
  Eric: Okay.
• 53:01
  Eric: Get ready for this.
• 53:03
  Eric: Uh Karain Koroin Kan Koroin Managu Mitsuni ba nin.
• 53:14
  Eric: Which means uh the first two are just or the first three are onomatopoeia.
• 53:20
  Eric: They're literally yelling like karain kara koroin, like they're making sandal noises, and uh and then they finish with uh it has three eyes and two teeth.
• 53:31
  Eric: And that's what they're about.
• 53:33
  Matt: I had no idea you were so fluent in Japanese.
• 53:36
  Eric: I know I tried.
• 53:37
  Eric: Somewhere, someone somewhere is cringing to death right now.
• 53:40
  Matt: Oh, yeah, more than that.
• 53:41
  Eric: They're like, How dare you, Gaijin?
• 53:44
  Eric: How dare you?
• 53:45
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:46
  Eric: Uh but apparently uh three eyes refers to the three holes where the sandal straps are attached, and two teeth refers to the two wooden clogs on the underside of Japanese sandals.
• 53:57
  Eric: Uh and they yeah, that's they're it apparently is from like a whole subsection of like kind of like mimics in DD, just like items that if they're like left abandoned for too long, they just become animated and start cause.
• 54:09
  Eric: It's like the it's like the kind of shit like pick up your trash or your reorganize your stuff, or it'll become a demon and just run around your house screaming and knocking shit over.
• 54:19
  Matt: Yeah.
• 54:19
  Matt: I mean, what do you expect when you disrespect your possession, such?
• 54:25
  Eric: What would your what would your possession demon be?
• 54:27
  Eric: What thing have you neglected that it will animate and start harassing you?
• 54:31
  Matt: Oh god, I I I I couldn't even I don't even know.
• 54:35
  Matt: I have so many things that could rise up against me.
• 54:38
  Matt: Um, like for example, I have all these mugs, but I really use the same like four throughout the week.
• 54:45
  Matt: But I have so many, and I just keep getting more.
• 54:47
  Matt: Like I'll see a cool mug and be like, gotta have it, and then don't really use it.
• 54:51
  Matt: So maybe I'll just get attacked by my drinkware.
• 54:54
  Matt: I'm gonna get attacked by floss.
• 54:56
  Matt: Oh, you have a lot, but don't do it.
• 54:59
  Matt: Yeah.
• 55:00
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:01
  Matt: Well, that's bad.
• 55:02
  Matt: I'm just gonna wake up being garotted by my own.
• 55:04
  Matt: They're gonna piano wire you.
• 55:06
  Matt: I'll send you, I'll send you the art.
• 55:08
  Matt: It's really dope.
• 55:08
  Matt: Oh, yeah, and we'll we'll of course put it on the uh the grams.
• 55:12
  Matt: Oh, absolutely.
• 55:13
  Matt: Oh my god, yes.
• 55:15
  Matt: This is such a wacky photo you sent me, too.
• 55:18
  Matt: With so every so first of all, everything in this image has an eye on it.
• 55:24
  Matt: Yep, yep.
• 55:25
  Matt: Whole house is alive.
• 55:26
  Matt: The whole house is alive, eh?
• 55:29
  Matt: And so yeah, so uh these sandals that I'm looking at look like they're like doing some weird like wazap impression from the Budweiser commercial.
• 55:41
  Eric: Tongue sticking out is a big thing.
• 55:43
  Eric: That's that's how you know something's a demon.
• 55:44
  Matt: It's like oh, that's how you know.
• 55:47
  Matt: Yeah.
• 55:47
  Matt: Hmm.
• 55:48
  Matt: Well, like I said, we'll throw this image up on the on the Instagram so you can all see these demons with their demon tongues.
• 55:55
  Eric: And what is your local legend, Matthew?
• 55:58
  Matt: Uh my local legend is also a little bit of uh, I suppose, weird news because it is relatively has it has been in the news relatively recently at the the beginning of August, so people might have seen this story going around.
• 56:13
  Matt: Um, and I I have a couple of news articles up to discuss the the saga which has unfolded since I first saw it.
• 56:22
  Matt: So this uh I'm gonna read from the article from The Guardian uh at first uh about River Dave, New Hampshire squatter's home burnt down after 27 years.
• 56:36
  unknown: Oh my god.
• 56:37
  Matt: So River Dave, an 81-year-old who was jailed recently after refusing to vacate a New Hampshire cabin where he has been squatting for 27 years.
• 56:48
  Matt: Just to point this out, is he squatting or is he just living his fucking life?
• 56:53
  Eric: By that point, right by like right by conquest, my dude.
• 56:56
  Matt: He's he's he's well, first of all, he built the cabin.
• 57:00
  unknown: What the fuck?
• 57:01
  Matt: Yeah, all right.
• 57:01
  Matt: So continuing on.
• 57:03
  Matt: Yeah.
• 57:03
  Matt: He's been squatting for 27 years, has expressed his thanks for a wave of support after his home burnt down.
• 57:08
  Matt: David Lidstone, that is to say, Raver R River Dave, said he was grateful and overwhelmed by the fundraising efforts and offers for places to live.
• 57:18
  Matt: He said, I feel about as good as I ever have in my life, Lidstone said in a phone interview with the Associated Press, I live down there in the woods because I liked being alone, being away from people.
• 57:31
  Matt: So this publicity is not anything I'm used to at all.
• 57:36
  Matt: Lidstone lived in the woods along the Merrimack River in the town of Canterbury.
• 57:41
  Matt: He was jailed on the 15th of July on civil contempt sanction and was told he'd be released if he'd leave the cabin.
• 57:49
  Matt: The property owner, an 86-year-old named Leonard Giles, who sounds like a villain from any movie about this.
• 57:57
  Matt: 100% couldn't name it any better, uh, wanted Lidstone off the property.
• 58:03
  Matt: But then, a fire destroyed the cabin on Wednesday of last week, hours after Lidstone defended himself in a court hearing.
• 58:11
  Matt: He was then released Thursday from jail after a judge ruled that he would have less incentive to return to, quote, this particular place in the woods now that the cabin is burnt down.
• 58:22
  Matt: The state fire marshal's office is investigating the fire.
• 58:26
  Matt: Oh, all fucking stinks.
• 58:28
  Eric: That stinks to high heaven.
• 58:29
  Eric: This is this is so fucking sketchy.
• 58:32
  Matt: You think there is Eric, I'm just gonna ask you, playing out.
• 58:35
  Matt: Is there any way on God's green earth that this wasn't arson?
• 58:40
  Eric: Fuck no! This is arson!
• 58:42
  Matt: No fucking way.
• 58:43
  Matt: The Giles family burned his fucking cabin down.
• 58:46
  Matt: Fuck it.
• 58:47
  Eric: So so So River Dave built the cabin, but someone else owned the land?
• 58:52
  Matt: So yes, so but so here's the deal.
• 58:54
  Matt: He's to get away from the article for a hot second, he's been living on this this thing for almost three decades.
• 59:01
  Matt: Yeah.
• 59:02
  Matt: He is beloved by kayakers that stop by his ribic river cabin.
• 59:08
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 59:09
  Matt: If you Google River Dave, his location pops up on Google Maps.
• 59:15
  Matt: Jesus Christ.
• 59:16
  Matt: Of where well, where he would have been found.
• 59:18
  Matt: Just but if you Google it, listeners, you'll see.
• 59:21
  Eric: River Dave, he look, guys, whoever's listening to this, he looks exactly what you would imagine him to look like.
• 59:27
  Eric: He has the best possible.
• 59:29
  Eric: What a cool ass cab! Oh my god!
• 59:31
  Matt: Yeah, so the cabin um is I'm gonna get to it in just a second here.
• 59:36
  Matt: Uh I'll continue with this article now.
• 59:39
  Matt: The wood lot Lidstone called home was just a few miles away from Interstate 93, north of the capital city, Concord, but it was hidden by trees.
• 59:47
  Matt: It's on 73 acres that have been used for timber harvests.
• 59:52
  Matt: The property has been owned by the same family since 1963.
• 59:58
  Matt: Uh there are no plans to develop it at this time.
• 1:00:03
  Eric: Yet.
• 1:00:04
  Matt: Lidstone had said that a prior owner gave his word years ago that he could live there, but has nothing in writing.
• 1:00:11
  Matt: He later disputed that he was even on the property, saying, quote, It looks to me like now I may never sit foot on the piece of land again.
• 1:00:21
  Matt: Still, he wants to be able to prove he was right and he wants to get a surveyor on the property.
• 1:00:26
  Matt: Jody Gideon, that's kind of funny that that happens to pop up again in this name.
• 1:00:31
  Matt: Uh, an avid kayaker and advocate for Lidstone said there's been a discussion of setting up a trust for him in addition to finding him a home.
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  Matt: Uh, there have been at least 20 offers to make him relocate to another plot of land from California to Maine.
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  Matt: So it's really up to David now, said Jody.
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  Matt: So, yes, Eric, you mentioned uh what he he looks like a little bit.
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  Matt: It is important that everybody knows he has this epic beard.
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  Matt: This big white beard that is um uh unparalleled in this world.
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  Matt: He looks like the human version of Tree Beard from Lord of the Rings.
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  Matt: Absolutely.
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  Matt: And so let just since since we happen to have uh a clip here, um, I would like you to listen to the man himself.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't see how I can go back to being a hermit because society is not going to allow it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have started a human interest story, and I'm going to have people, even if I rebuilt right here, I would have people coming every weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I just can't get out of society anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is David Earl Stone.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm 81 years old.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been living as a hermit for off and on now for over 20 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: I enjoy that lifestyle.
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  SPEAKER_00: I also enjoy the female relationship of my wife of 61 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh July 22nd was our anniversary.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm still married to the same woman.
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  SPEAKER_00: But uh I enjoy the lifestyle of living alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been down there in the woods now until they burned my cabin down, and now I have to uh put down no roots and new plowed ground.
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  Matt: Now that that cut out there, but I think that's probably appropriate.
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  Matt: Now I do have some questions about this marriage.
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  Matt: Um I'm not sure how it works.
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  Eric: We were we were witnessed by the bears and then the deer and married by a badger.
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  Matt: Yeah, but he's living by himself, so I'm not sure where and he has three kids, too, um, who who did not comment on this uh on this story.
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  Eric: Yeah.
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  Matt: The big update came on August 20th, and this is from the Press Herald.
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  Matt: Billionaire gives former New Hampshire hermit River Dave money to build a cabin.
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  Matt: A billionaire software company CEO has given former hermit in New Hampshire, David Lidstone,$180,000 to rebuild his cabin on a new location.
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  Matt: Alexander Carp, CEO of Palantir Technologies, gave him a personal Sorry, that's a Lord of the Rings reference.
• 1:03:10
  Matt: Gave him a personal check, and Lidstone's friend Jody Gideon said on Facebook that uh she confirmed that he has in fact received this donation.
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  Eric: Amazing.
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  Eric: So bless that company owner.
• 1:03:24
  Eric: Also, yeah.
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  Matt: Yeah, so River Dave, who knows where he's gonna end up?
• 1:03:29
  Matt: He is spending the winter in an undisclosed location to respect his privacy.
• 1:03:34
  Matt: Uh, but yeah, he's got all this money now to build a new cabin.
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  Matt: But can you imagine?
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  Matt: And I'm gonna throw up some pictures on the Instagram of this cabin.
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  Matt: It is a two-story A-frame cabin on a river.
• 1:03:46
  Matt: Gang, this this cabin's dope.
• 1:03:49
  Matt: Dope.
• 1:03:49
  Matt: He built this thing.
• 1:03:50
  Matt: He's been living in it in the middle of the woods.
• 1:03:53
  Matt: Some fucking Giles crony burned it down.
• 1:03:58
  Eric: Piece of shit.
• 1:03:58
  Matt: Uh, I don't mind saying this because it's so blatant.
• 1:04:02
  Matt: Uh, it's been a month now.
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  Matt: We haven't had we haven't closed this investigation, I notice.
• 1:04:07
  Matt: Uh, so I don't think we're going to either.
• 1:04:10
  Matt: So, yeah, so kaakers come down this river, they see this old man with his epic beard, they have a nice chat with the poor guy, they go on kayaking.
• 1:04:19
  Matt: Somebody burned down his goddamn cabin, man.
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  Matt: So, uh, what we've accomplished here is uh we've celebrated the life of this man and uh besmirched the the entire Giles family, and I feel that's appropriate.
• 1:04:33
  Eric: Fuck Giles, all my homies hate Giles.
• 1:04:35
  Matt: I'm not doing on to Giles.
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  Matt: You know what?
• 1:04:38
  Matt: I'm doing on to Giles just as he did on to Lidstone.
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  Eric: That was not a threat of arson, just to be clear.
• 1:04:45
  Matt: Oh yeah, that's that's a good that's a good point.
• 1:04:48
  Matt: No, I just mean he's a dick.
• 1:04:50
  Eric: Oh yeah, he's a dick.
• 1:04:52
  Matt: And I don't doubt for a second that he he made this happen.
• 1:04:56
  Eric: Oh my god.
• 1:04:58
  Eric: Poor poor River Dave.
• 1:04:59
  Eric: What a cool dude.
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  Matt: He seems like a cool dude.
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  Matt: Uh I hope nothing horrible comes out revealed about him or his beliefs.
• 1:05:08
  Matt: Uh yeah, yeah.
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  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Matt: For the time being, seems like a cool dude with a cool beard.
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  Matt: And uh, I'm glad uh a billionaire decided to give him some money to build a new uh a new cabin instead of using that money to send himself into space.
• 1:05:27
  Matt: So uh so I I think those are our local legends for today, Eric.
• 1:05:32
  Matt: Do you have any important updates for the people?
• 1:05:35
  Eric: Only that the name of that company, Palantir Industries, is a Lord of the Rings reference.
• 1:05:40
  Matt: But no, that's all I've got.
• 1:05:42
  Matt: Excellent, excellent.
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  Matt: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_04: What's the story?
• 1:06:58
  Matt: I don't know why I keep going up.
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  Matt: But like that.
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  SPEAKER_04: You commit it.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm just elevating it.