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Vikings Reset After the Bye: Colts Props and Trade Deadline Choices · Scene Projects Sports Network

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Welcome into the Scene Project Sports Network.
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You are here tonight for Tailgate Tuesday.
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I am your host, Bubba Starch, joined as always by my cohost, Big B.
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What's shaking, B?
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Nothing much.
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Got the week off of work.
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Had some fun activities this weekend.
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Birthday on Thursday.
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I mean, the wife will get away, but...
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So just kind of relaxing this week.
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Love it.
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Took the birthday week off.
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I I I feel you, man.
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Yeah.
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Typically, I don't take weeks off.
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Hey.
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What's going on, fellas?
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What's happening, buddy?
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How you doing?
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Doing good.
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Just got back from work late night.
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I was supposed to be off at five, but if I can sell two cars consistently, I'll stay late for
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that.
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I'll miss my own wedding for that.
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Well, hopefully, you go buy a good car.
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I mean Probably why you're not
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gonna I I still got my name tag on and everything.
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Well, thanks, Barbara, for the early birthday.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Another year.
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B, what what are you wishing for for the birthday?
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Well, we're going to the casino, so hopefully a little bit of a big win at the casino.
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But just all in all, keep my health, keep my insanity, and just make it year in year out,
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and hopefully get that doctor call back in Cody soon.
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I knew it.
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I knew it was coming.
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I was like, within five minutes.
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That's awesome.
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Hey.
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We got a special guest with us tonight too from the prop laboratory, Jared Goering.
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Jared, welcome in, brother.
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Glad you could make it tonight.
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What's going on?
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What's up?
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What's up, Jared?
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What's up, man?
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How's going, buddy?
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Man, we're feeling elite.
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Can you hear me?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Can hear
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Can hear you.
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We can hear you.
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How's it going?
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Good, John.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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It's great to have you.
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We're definitely gonna get into some prop stuff tonight.
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For those of you that don't know Jared, our recent guest on the scene projects podcast, the
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prop laboratory, a great substack that that Jared started.
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Definitely encourage everybody go listen to the episode, learn more about him.
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Tell us a little bit, Jared, about you.
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Give us the the short version just for everybody that's just happening with us
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tonight.
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I've just been focusing on, improving my bedding, trying to help people.
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I developed a new framework.
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I'll kinda go through it with you guys, on this slate for the NFL.
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And, yeah, honestly, it's a way it's picking out props because, I don't really deal with
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spreads, especially NFL spreads because they're the sharpest lines.
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Well, not a big.
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So...
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But, yeah, no.
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I have a different kind of framework where I start with the game environment first and then
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work out to the players.
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And, yeah.
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No.
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It's been working.
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Yeah.
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It's awesome, man.
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I I had a great time.
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Look.
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The boys are getting ready with
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No takers or money makers, son.
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Well...
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And we hope to have you on as a regular part of, you know, not just this show, but, all the
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shows that we're doing.
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Obviously, NBA season starting tonight, with the Knicks taking on the Sixers and, really
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launching into that.
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Some great props, I'm sure, with the NBA season.
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And, yeah, I I love the guys that are parlaying multi sports together, really dipping in and
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ruining their entire weekend.
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You know?
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They...
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It's not for me whatsoever, but we're about to be...
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Our guy, Barbara, says, sup, Jared.
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You're gonna great...
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Get some great tips, man.
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So we're gonna get into this NFL season a little bit here.
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Vikings coming off their bye week.
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Not a lot of news last week.
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Everybody in the NFC North, the Vlions were also on their bye.
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The...
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Or the packers and the bears both winning their games.
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The NFC North is looking like one of the toughest divisions in the league this year.
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The NFC West kind of notoriously one of the harder divisions.
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You know, I think some surprises out there with the Rams struggling in every way right now.
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The niners are undefeated, but I don't know that they look bulletproof by any means.
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You know, them as well as the Vikings being the only undefeated teams.
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A lot of talk this week about, you know, are the are the Vikings true contenders as their
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offense struggles to kind of get going.
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Jared, as a prop guy and someone who's looking at these games from a different lens,
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obviously, the three of us being Vikings fans, do you, you know, do you find yourself looking
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at these teams and and kind of gauging them out, you know, from a nonbetting standpoint as
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well?
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Yeah.
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A 100%.
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Because a lot of the data, a lot of the stats that I'm using to look at profits are
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underlying team efficiency stats, and it's gonna tell you a story.
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Speaking of the Vikings, like, I'm not a fan, but defensively, they...
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They're...
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You're you're gonna win a lot of games.
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You're gonna go to the playoffs, and you're probably gonna lose in the second round.
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But Two weeks.
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Defense...
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Your
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defense is legit.
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And, honestly, like, it's gonna carry your it's gonna carry your team.
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I like to bet against the offenses you're playing against right now because, the numbers
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are are disgusting, to be honest with you.
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There you go, coach.
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Vikings defense, good bet, and we'll continue to be as long as we're around.
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Now, Jared, you don't know, you know, the guys here as well.
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Coach Cody, new defensive coordinator for the Memphis Blues and Arena football team.
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He says he's...
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Hey.
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You're the one out there announcing, man.
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What do you want me on my...
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Only on the Snapchat personal.
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That's where it all goes down for the access.
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But...
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Hey.
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Cat's out of the bay.
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What up?
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Coach Cody Hamedal, defensive coordinator for the Memphis blues, in the AAL, and, we're gonna
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run it.
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I...
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I'd say what Anthony Edwards said, but we're just gonna run.
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Nice to meet you, man.
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Big b is our, you know, kind of resident stat specialist, over here.
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He's the one who kinda dives in the numbers, also host a variety of shows on the network,
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most notably filling in for me on the crease report last week with Brevin Bain, Brevi Bright
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Lights over there.
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He also hosts Beyond the Bell and Rankham, which we're gonna have to get you rank them and
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talk some, you know, broader broader spectrum of things over there.
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I get your takes on, where some of these teams and things rank as far as that goes.
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So, really awesome to have you in here, Jared, get you introduced to everybody.
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Yeah, man.
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Nice to meet you guys.
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Nice to meet you.
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Alright.
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Well, what they, you know what?
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Here.
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I wanna start here.
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So Vikings offense, we're coming off the buy, finally getting healthy.
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Now we haven't had the full complement of our offensive weapons on the field.
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I think nine snaps is what they said between Hock, Addison, and and, Jefferson with Kyler
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Murray all on the field together.
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That should change after the bi week.
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Hockenson, I don't think we're still sure about the concussion.
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I'm hoping that Christian Deresaw will be back as well.
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Let's start with you, B.
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Do do you have any confidence after seeing what the offense was able to do on, you know,
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against the Saints in their last game and them being able to finally excel here against this
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Colts team that just fired their GM yesterday.
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Well, I mean, you know, the last five quarters for Minnesota Vikings offense has been
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phenomenal.
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As they start getting healthy, I think, yeah, I think everybody's due to play this Sunday as of
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right now.
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Haven't heard nothing different.
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I know that's the plan.
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I'm excited to see what this team can do after the bye week once we start getting healthy.
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Connor Murray is still learning.
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Hopefully, he was here all week learning the playbook more, watching more film.
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So it'll be interesting to see what the reports are this week Locally, the defense had no
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worries.
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Been seeing a lot of rumored trades for the offensive side of the ball.
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Hey.
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If we can get some of those guys fairly cheap, there's a couple Colts on the on the list that
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were rumored to be in trade talks with Minnesota.
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So, you know, I think if we can get them fairly cheap and not have to break the bank, I think
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that'd be a good asset, but I...
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I'm I'm willing to roll with the team we have.
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Rumors are probably a little bit strong.
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I think there's a lot of people making connections because of maybe some needs and a
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and a strong...
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Until Rappaport puts it out there, I I don't consider anything being even smoke.
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There's just so much talk out there on the Internet now.
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Coach, how are feeling about this offense finally getting healthy?
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Jordan Mason coming back after the the broken hand, being out there, getting his running mate
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back.
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Aaron Jones probably not having to carry the ball 25 times again, hopefully, for the rest of
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the season.
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Do you think it's gonna make this rushing attack, which has been pretty effective with
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just the one horse really in the backfield now having the two headed monster back there?
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Do you think this helps bolster that running game even more?
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I think it does.
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I mean, if you're Aaron Jones, what is he?
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33, 34, getting up there, taking a beating, getting the workload that he has.
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I mean, I'm just waiting for Jordan Mason to come back because that's gonna take some of the
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workload off you.
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You know, you won't be as damaged after the games.
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You won't be vulnerable to injuries long term.
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And who knows?
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You might be able to squeeze, you know, squeeze in, like, an extra one or two years in your
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playing career, just mind seeing a couple of carriers.
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We'll see how it goes, though.
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It's Yeah.
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If Jordan Mason is...
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Comes back and isn't effective, though, we know what we have in Aaron Jones, and we know he's
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willing to do it.
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Yeah.
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33 in running back years is geriatric.
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It...
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It's pretty wild that he was affected as was.
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31.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Still.
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Thank you.
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Still.
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Tough to go out there.
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I mean, he's ten years younger than I am and...
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But probably doesn't feel like it on Monday after getting abused for 25 carries and running
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the ball over a 100 yards.
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Jared, now we know you're high on the Vikings defense, but with this offense now, the numbers
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are kind of relying on your past performance and not necessarily gauging for what it could
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be.
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I know you're not watching a ton of these teams, but what can you kind of gauge from
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watching the numbers over the first five weeks of the season and kind of seeing a steady
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incline from the offense, you know, as far as the yards that they're putting up and the, you
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know, efficiency that they're operating with?
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Well, looking it over, your run blocking is actually pretty average, but your efficiency is
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pretty low, which is telling me your running backs are struggling.
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But your explosive past percentage is pretty high for team that hasn't had Jefferson all
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year.
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So if I have to, like, look forward, I'd probably say if you guys can get healthy and he
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can click with Kyler Murray a little more, that explosive play rate goes up and, like, you're
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top five in the league, then you only need a few big plays to get ahead, and then you have a
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defense and kinda sit on the game.
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But you're running...
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I don't know what's going on with your running backs, but someone needs to pick it up because
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the efficiency is pretty low for how good the blocking has been.
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So Yeah.
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Well, it's just been the one.
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Jordan Mason went out after week one, so it's been just Aaron Jones back there, and they
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really don't trust the other guys that are in.
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You're you're not getting a lot out of, you know, a rookie fifth round pick, I'm pretty
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sure, with Damon Claiborne.
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Hasn't gotten a lot of run there.
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DJ Dallas hasn't been super effective in there.
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I think this team, will thrive off of that.
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And you're also starting to see, especially from that last game against New Orleans, Kyler
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Murray starting to use his legs a little bit.
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Now most of those were on scrambles and not necessarily designed runs, but but I think that
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that's going to carry over into being a little bit more efficient.
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I think the early numbers are also skewed by a game played in a fishbowl in Soldier Field in
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week two that nobody was efficient in.
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So some of the data might be a little skewed from that as well.
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A lot of attempts, not a lot of yards, but you're also banged up.
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We're we're pretty banged up on the offensive line with our starting left guard going down
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earlier this year for the season and the right side of the line being quite porous at best.
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And and there's been a few highlights of Will Fry's out there not showing a lot and and
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leading to the projection of some people ahead of the trade deadline saying that, hey.
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Do you go out and get a guy like Quentin Nelson who we're gonna see this weekend with the with
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the Colts who is an absolute stud at left guard and has been for a long time pending UFA and
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playing for a team that is, you know, probably throwing in the towel at this point after
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fighting the GM.
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Who knows if they're able to come back?
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But I I don't see them having a great day with their turnover ratio being what it is with
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Indianapolis coming into Minnesota with a very fresh defense, not only from the bye week, but
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they didn't play a lot in New Orleans either.
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No.
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They That's good.
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They they didn't play a lot.
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You know?
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And that's just, you know, a testament to KOC and his growing ascending chemistry with Kyler
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Murray and just being able to run the clock, control the clock, control the momentum, and,
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you know, give that defense a much deserved break.
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Jared, while we're on the game, against the colts, obviously, the Vikings take on the colts
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this Sunday, October 25 at noon.
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We will be there at Fathead Bills, 903 Washington Avenue South for our pregame show
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starting at 10:30.
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What are you seeing from the colts a season that feels like it's kinda slipping away from
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them?
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And what can we expect from their side of the ball who...
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I'm expecting that their running efficiency is pretty high with a guy like Jonathan Taylor in
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their backfield.
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Yeah.
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It's...
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I mean, it's pretty high.
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It's not what you would think, but you're...
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They're running into...
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Your defense, score, like, a 94, suppression score, which is, like, absolutely absurd.
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So you're...
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They're running into a buzz saw, and they're gonna have to run because your defense is...
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The past defense is letting up 48% completion.
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So they're not gonna complete passes.
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They're gonna have to focus on the running game, and I don't I don't see that really
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happening, to be honest with you.
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Anything could happen.
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Jonathan Taylor could pop a run.
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But, I mean, for consistency, for third downs in the red zone, like, I I don't I don't see it
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happening, this week, especially if you're coming off a buy.
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It's not gonna be pretty, but, I just...
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I don't I don't see Taylor having if they get behind, I don't see them having much yards,
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much more attempts even in the second half.
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So it it could get ugly, my opinion.
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Jared, maybe this is a good point to have you walk us through a a little bit of your
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framework and explain some of, you know, how you're crunching the data down and what some of
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these scores mean for us.
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Okay.
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So
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there's two parts.
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It'll be a game environment score, which is the two...
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Basically, what the two offenses are bringing.
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So pillars are the stats go both ways, so offense and defense.
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You wanna get a pass efficiency in defense, rush, the protection, the run blocking, and
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then on the flip side of the defensive pressure, rates, and sack rates.
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And then you're gonna look at defensive and offensive third down and red zone.
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So once you have all these stats, you pair it up with the other team's offense and defense,
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and you're gonna see...
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Basically, it's something I call prop lane.
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So it's gonna be passing, rushing, receiving, protection.
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You're gonna see matchups that either cancel each other out.
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One's gonna exploit the other, and you're gonna kinda see how the game should be played.
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So looking at the Vikings game and...
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Okay.
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Actually, a better example.
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So a team could...
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A game could be...
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Have a good score because both offenses have good...
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But the proppants might not be good.
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So the best scoring game this week is Chicago and New England.
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It's not like a track meet, but both offenses bring talent.
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But for New England, their rush game is not gonna have any success.
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They're gonna wanna look at their passing even though they have a lot of good offensive score.
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So when you can see
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that
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one is gonna struggle running the ball, passing the ball, you can kind of then know
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to
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do research on that running back.
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So...
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Or or receiver.
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Right?
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So it's basically...
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Look.
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The game environment is permission.
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Should I should should
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I do research on this?
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Because of, let's say, Jonathan Taylor, I'm not gonna, like, try to get him for having overbet
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because he's facing a dominant defense.
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So, basically...
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And then you look at the player stats and what kind of players are gonna express their ability
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in the game environment and then the price.
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So, basically, it gives you...
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I have, like, prop lanes.
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So this week, the best prop lane is gonna be the Carolina Panthers passing attack, and then
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we're gonna look into their players this week.
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And then games that are cold that have no offensive production, I'm just not gonna
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research because I can't research every single player, every single game.
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So it kind of basically shows me what deserves my attention moving forward.
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And then once I look at the players, you look at the price because none of it matters if it's
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overpriced.
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So, basically, if Daniel Jones...
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If his line is 200 yards, I'm gonna bet the under.
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But if they price it at a 100 and 60, then I have to be like, that's a very low number.
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Is it baked into the price already?
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So So...
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And we talked about it on on the podcast, but we really didn't dig into the weeds.
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So game environment is something that you kind of start from, and that doesn't necessarily
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mean the weather.
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We're talking about strengths and weaknesses and really starting from that point itself and
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going, you know, these strengths and weaknesses, there's something to exploit from
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here and being able to look.
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And there may only be three games on the entire slate that weekend that show you something in
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there, and then it's digging more into that specifically before kind of falling in love
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with a team or a matchup.
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It's really falling in, you know, and and looking at the strengths and weaknesses of the
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individual teams and finding a a point where there may be something to exploit there and
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then digging into the price from there before really even digging into the players
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themselves.
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Yeah.
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You can you can fall in love with a player, but let's say if you're gonna look at the
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protection, the team can't protect and the other team has a fierce pass rush.
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You probably shouldn't bet on the team's receiver to, like, to rack up yards.
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He's not gonna have time.
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If...
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It...
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There's many just...
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It's the interaction of the the two.
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It's just gonna basically tell you over time, like, what's...
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Anything is possible, like, what's actually gonna happen time in, time out.
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So, yeah, it's...
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So you don't you don't ever look at players.
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The lines haven't come out.
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I don't even look at the lines until later in the week because it doesn't really deserve my
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attention because I've kind of said the Sun Tzu thing.
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If you have fast horses, but the field is muddy, then it doesn't really matter.
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So if you have great wide receivers, you can't protect, you have a great running back, you
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can't run block, then none of this really matters.
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You don't really need to toy with the idea of betting on someone all week when really it
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didn't deserve your attention in the first place.
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So it's kinda just to, like, narrow it down.
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And this week is the ugliest offensive week I've ever seen in my life.
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So, really, I'm only gonna look at, like, five players moving forward the whole week for overs
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because that's just what the numbers say.
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And you only fight the numbers...
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If you fight the numbers over time, you...
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You're gonna lose.
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Yeah.
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And we're digging in a lot to, you know, the behind, the the system.
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And as we get move...
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Moving here and maybe having a a regular Friday kind of betting segment and a new show that we
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can put together, Jared, when the lines are kinda getting finalized both for, you know, not
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just the NFL, but for the, you know, the college season as well.
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A lot of bets, to be had with the NCAA, you know, at FBS.
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So really great.
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Just wanted to take a few minutes, kinda dig into the process a little bit that you have as
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you're looking at games.
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And, yeah, I know there's a lot of people in our circle that are betting and and wagering
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and, you know, putting it out there on the line.
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It...
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It's it's really interesting for me to understand a little bit of your science and the
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makeup of you, you know, and your system.
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So appreciate you sharing that with us, Jared.
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Yeah.
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Sorry if it was long winded.
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If you guys have any questions, let me know.
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It's kinda hard to articulate unless I'm, like, breaking down each game, but that's...
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It's gonna take too long.
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So, yeah, if any questions, I'll figure out how to explain it.
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Well, I highly recommend everybody get on your your substack, check out the prop laboratory,
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and get more stuff out there.
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Jared, I'm gonna have to look up the thing real quick.
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But moving on, let's talk about this game coming up against the Colts.
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You know, the offense is healthy.
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The defense coming off and well rested.
25:52
Coach, what are you hoping to see from this Vikings team as they take on the Colts this
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weekend?
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I mean, it's plain and simple.
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I just want us to continue to build off of the game against the Saints.
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I hope they used this by week to really, you know, hone in on the offense, in particular,
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their timing down, get their chemistry down.
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I'm try...
26:19
We're trying to see some touchdowns.
26:21
I wanna see the gritty more than once every four weeks.
26:23
You feel me?
26:25
Like, I think we deserve that.
26:28
Keep on chilling with Will.
26:31
You know, Kyler, we we mentioned it couple, couple shows ago.
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Keep
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him in the shotgun.
26:39
Keep him in the shotgun.
26:41
He...
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I mean, from the snap of the ball, he's got an extra two seconds to pan out instead of trying
26:49
to back up in his, back pedal, his drop step, and then try to...
26:55
Like, it it just doesn't work.
26:57
Keep...
26:57
If it if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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B, how about you?
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Yeah.
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No.
27:07
I just wanna see them build on the saints game.
27:10
Keep building on the saints game.
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Learn.
27:12
You know, hopefully, the bye week helped them out and getting Colin more and more comfortable
27:19
with the playbook.
27:20
And I'm I'm with Cody.
27:22
I wanna see that Grady a little bit more than once every four weeks, especially from him.
27:27
I wanna see it from Jefferson.
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Everybody else tries to do it.
27:29
You gotta get Jefferson to do it.
27:32
I wanna see that defense come out and keep hitting them in the balls, and hopefully, this
27:37
game ain't like the last time the Colts were here where we're down 33 at halftime.
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We came back at one.
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Just put it right to him right away.
27:47
I was at that game.
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It was awesome.
27:50
It was awesome.
27:52
My my coach on the rank was not too happy with that game.
27:57
That would have been Not at all.
27:59
And and and, Jared, I don't know how long you wanna hang around tonight.
28:04
I appreciate you jumping in here.
28:05
I know you're not picking a lot of teams, and like you said, one of the, worst offensive
28:11
weeks, out there, so not a lot to share.
28:14
We're gonna talk more and and get you back on.
28:17
I'm gonna have to start a new show and find some time on Fridays and maybe one of our other
28:22
cohosts here.
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Maybe Selly's got some time on a Friday.
28:26
Speaking of the man, he's backstage as well.
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Jared, I got your link up in the chat as well, and I will make sure we get it in the show
28:34
notes and everything too.
28:36
Appreciate you coming on with us, man, sharing a little bit about the system, sharing a little
28:40
bit about Pratt Laboratory, and looking forward to having you in on a lot more segments coming
28:46
up as we keep moving through the season.
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And you're more than welcome to join us for some of the other shows and talk, you know,
28:53
bets outside of football and maybe some of the.
28:55
I know you're Canadian, so you gotta be you gotta be a hockey guy.
28:58
It's a must.
28:59
Right?
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We got some...
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We got we got baseball, obviously, moving into the world series now and basketball season just
29:09
starting up.
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So, Jared, anything you wanna tell the people before I let you go today?
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Oh, man.
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I appreciate you having me on.
29:17
Check out my Prop Laboratory x later in the week.
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I'll drop college and NFL picks and maybe some hockey picks too.
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But, yeah, man, I'll see you next week.
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Appreciate you, Jared.
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Thanks for everything, Dan, and we'll see you soon.
29:33
Cheers.
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Bye.
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Speaking of our guy, Selly.
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Hey.
29:38
What's happening, buddy?
29:39
Going homey.
29:40
What's up, gentlemen?
29:40
How you guys doing?
29:41
What's up?
29:42
What's good?
29:42
Just doing some double duty, watching some basketball.
29:45
Get ready for tomorrow's show too.
29:47
What game are Okay.
29:48
Alright.
29:48
What game are you watching?
29:50
The Knicks are playing the Sixers right now, so I'm locked in trying to take some notes.
29:56
That's how we do it.
29:58
Selly, Vikings coming off the bye week getting healthy, at least as healthy as they can.
30:05
Looking ahead to the Colts who just fired their GM this week.
30:10
What are you expecting from this Vikings team that should be, more than well rested at this
30:15
point?
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Yeah.
30:17
Big week.
30:17
Hopefully, they took the buy and learned what they can improve on.
30:22
Hopefully, Kyler got comfortable with another week off system.
30:27
Just learning more with the system.
30:30
Getting healthy as everybody...
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As coach said, we want everybody healthy.
30:34
I mean, it's a big game for me, especially as a Jets fan because I don't know if you guys
30:39
realize the Jets have the Colts first round picks.
30:43
So literally every every Colts game, I've been locked in every every week.
30:49
But this week, especially, I'm locked in for...
30:51
I...
30:51
I'm gonna be the biggest Vikings fan ever.
30:53
Because the pick is looking like it's gonna be in the top 10, maybe even the top five.
30:58
That would be...
30:59
Oh, man.
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Trade trade bank right there.
31:03
Partner trade.
31:05
We got two first round pick.
31:06
This is the second year of the first.
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Yeah.
31:12
And I I think we feel the same way about anybody who's playing the eagles at this point.
31:17
Obviously, our prayers are with Jalen Hurts as the news comes out about the blood clots in his
31:22
lung, his season being done, maybe career.
31:25
Who knows?
31:26
Definitely, shame to see that.
31:29
But that also means that one of those third round picks that we got in the Jonathan Grenard
31:34
trade, over the off season, right before the draft there, are now looking, pretty good, for
31:42
our draft in the 2028, or the 2027 draft rather.
31:47
So, yeah, I I definitely feel the rooting against the team because of a draft pick status
31:54
as well.
31:54
The Giants can go ahead and suck as well.
31:56
It doesn't bother us at all..
31:59
It's actually
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only Giants talk you're gonna get out of me today.
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Yeah.
32:03
Up here, it's a pretty big topic, which you guys...
32:06
I mean, he shall not be named on the show.
32:08
I'm following the lead of you guys, but, like, it's a big deal up here.
32:12
There's actually, dare I say, a QB controversy happened.
32:15
Good.
32:16
I was just gonna ask for this.
32:18
I know we're not gonna get too much, but is there a QB controversy supposedly up there?
32:23
Yes.
32:23
It's...
32:24
The questions are being asked on radio every single day, and Harbaugh has not committed to a
32:28
starter, I don't believe, yet.
32:30
They think that Jake gets better than 30 for 30.
32:34
I mean, he he might get you twelve and eleven.
32:40
So, you know get you more rushing yards.
32:44
Yeah.
32:44
Well, you know, the ghost of Jameis Winston out there chucking it around still.
32:49
Good for them.
32:50
They can have it.
32:51
I don't care.
32:53
So many Vikings fans coming out.
32:55
Rap wanted to talk about it extensively yesterday on his show.
32:58
To me, it's a nonstarter.
33:00
I I could tell just by looking at the box score that the Saints had obviously pulled their
33:05
starters off the field, and it's just...
33:11
Who cares?
33:12
Who cares?
33:12
He ain't here.
33:14
I don't care.
33:15
We got our own, you know, QB to worry about.
33:18
I don't think there's any controversy in Minnesota right now.
33:21
I think we're pretty happy with what we saw in New Orleans.
33:24
The efficiency that you're seeing out of Kyler Murray is exactly what I feel like we were
33:31
kinda sold on.
33:32
And and when we didn't see that both in camp and then fur...
33:36
Through the first few games of the season, I don't wanna say that I was disappointed, but I
33:41
was still very skeptical skeptical of where this could go.
33:46
And now after the New Orleans games, I'm a little bit more bullish on what this offense
33:50
can be.
33:51
Now do I think that he's gonna be slinging it for 400 plus yards a game?
33:55
I I don't.
33:56
He's never been that guy, so I'm not expecting him to be even with the plethora of weapons
34:01
that he now has, on this Vikings team.
34:05
And they don't have to be with the defense, and and you heard Jared kind of allude to it as
34:09
well with...
34:10
You know?
34:11
And he's really digging hard into, the the data and the numbers here.
34:15
I mean, this defense is on a historic pace right now with all of the major statistical
34:20
categories.
34:21
So the offense doesn't need to be world beaters.
34:24
They need to go out there, be efficient, don't turn the ball over, and flip the field and
34:29
continue to keep putting your defense in good positions, scoring a couple of touchdowns a
34:34
game.
34:35
I'd like to see the points per game creep more up into those, you know, mid twenties.
34:39
I think if you're putting up 24 a game and your defense is holding teams, under 14, it doesn't
34:46
take a math, mathematician to understand that you're probably gonna win a lot of football
34:50
games that way.
34:51
And you have a chance to go play very well, in the playoffs as well.
34:55
And, really, I feel like this team is built for, those later rounds.
35:00
And if you can stay winning football games and and securing home field advantage throughout, I
35:06
think this Vikings team becomes very hard to beat, especially when you start to factor in
35:12
how hard of a place it is to play in inside of US Bank Stadium.
35:17
Well, I mean, know, we're talking about defense.
35:20
Everyone says it.
35:22
Defense wins championships.
35:24
I'm a defense of mine, the head coach.
35:25
I firmly believe it.
35:27
You know, this team...
35:31
How the defense is playing kinda brings them back to the 2,000 Baltimore ravens right, and
35:37
the defense that they had.
35:39
Now, you know, defense for defense, alright, you can make your arguments.
35:45
Offense, we have better wide receivers than the Baltimore Ravens 2,000 team did.
35:51
They had Jamal Lewis.
35:54
I'd say...
35:54
I'd pick Jamal Lewis over Aaron Jones.
35:57
And you say that it's me.
35:59
Quarterback, you gotta tell me that Kyler Murray is better than Trent Delfer.
36:06
You you feel me?
36:07
You you Just the running ability
36:11
All I had to do was manage the game.
36:14
I was asking Kyler Murray to do is just manage the game, not make turnovers.
36:18
So Like,
36:20
I don't care if you got 250 passing
36:23
yards,
36:23
four or five touchdowns, and one of those are past 20 yards.
36:28
You feel me?
36:29
Yep.
36:30
Just get the ball down the field.
36:34
See, and that...
36:35
And that's the thing that we're facing is right now everything's working.
36:40
You know, we're not hearing a quarterback controversy like Bubba said, but I guarantee
36:45
that first loss, if and when it comes, everybody's gonna talk about how bad Kyler
36:51
Murray played in that game and how bad it was, and we need a switch, we're not going anywhere.
36:56
So Yeah.
36:57
Stupid fans will say anything.
36:59
Well, yeah.
37:00
Exactly.
37:01
You know, it's always a quarterback's fault when there's an l and the whole team explodes.
37:06
And when it's a win, it's everybody's win, and doesn't matter who had the better game.
37:10
So
37:11
But fault
37:12
with No.
37:13
I'm with you.
37:15
The fans
37:15
will say...
37:16
Stupid fans will say anything.
37:18
Now that JV has traded, a bunch of his jerseys are going down in price.
37:22
I found one for, like, $10.
37:24
I was like, you better snag that.
37:25
Well, after after his one game, I'm on a different...
37:28
Lot of different card trading places.
37:31
Everybody's asking for a bunch of JJ McCarthy cards and what the price there for him now.
37:37
So Sell.
37:39
Sell high because if he starts the next game, the value's gonna plummet.
37:44
Yep.
37:46
Yeah.
37:47
Oh, it's the
37:48
Olds game, but I do think the Bills game will just be, a huge test for both sides.
37:53
Nope.
37:54
Well, and
37:55
getting
37:55
Gosh.
37:56
The...
37:56
If we talked a
37:58
lot about it, you know, through the schedule and looking at it that this was kind of a
38:04
murderer's row.
38:04
Right?
38:05
I I don't wanna overlook the Colts, but looking ahead, Detroit, Buffalo, San Francisco, and
38:11
Mexico City.
38:13
You know, even if you lose even if you lose two out of three of those games, it's how do you
38:19
measure up against those teams.
38:21
Right?
38:22
For me, lions don't scare me.
38:24
Buffalo, I think perennially one of the best teams in the league.
38:28
I don't feel...
38:30
I'm not intimidated by San Francisco, how a lot of people seem to be.
38:35
I watched them play that seahawks team, and the seahawks did not play well.
38:39
They gifted them a touchdown at the end of the second half that should have never happened,
38:44
and they won that game by three.
38:46
So...
38:47
Or at the end of the first half rather.
38:50
And San Francisco ends up winning that game by three.
38:52
So they...
38:53
You know, you watch them last night, almost kinda give one away, and they haven't played a
38:58
defense like this Vikings team.
39:00
But what worries me is that you're playing out of the country at almost 8,000 feet of
39:05
elevation in Mexico City.
39:07
That game to me is just such a a toss-up.
39:10
And and like I said, if you lose that game or you lose the Monday night game, even if you
39:15
lose both of them, I I don't feel like it's like, oh, well, they're not who we thought they
39:21
were.
39:21
I I don't I don't know that it says much.
39:23
It's how you look in those.
39:25
If you lose two close games against two of the top teams in the league, I don't I don't see it
39:31
being, you know, just throw it all away and this Vikings team are pretenders.
39:36
I just don't see it like that.
39:38
Well, I think, you know, watching a lot of ESPN and all those, blankies are being totally
39:44
disrespected.
39:45
I think they're barely in the top 10 in the power ranking at five and o.
39:49
A lot of people are saying they're pretenders.
39:52
So outside of the lions and colts game, that Bills, Packers, Niners game is gonna be a true
39:58
test.
39:58
If we can come out there three and o two...
40:00
Three and two or three and one or two and one, I'm sorry, then I think we start getting those
40:07
heads to be like, oh, maybe the Vikings are legit, especially if it is against the Bills
40:11
and the Niners that we win.
40:13
You know, you know, if we lose, of course, people are gonna say, oh, the Vikings are who
40:19
we thought they were.
40:20
They weren't pretenders.
40:21
They're a pretend five and o team.
40:23
You know, and now look at them, they're, you know, five and whatever or seven or whatever.
40:28
So, I think those three games right there are gonna be key to our season on getting at least
40:35
some respect nationwide...
40:36
National.
40:39
Yeah.
40:39
A lot of those game stand alone games too.
40:41
So, like, the Bills game is Monday night, I think.
40:44
Yep.
40:45
The 49ers game is a Sunday nighter.
40:48
Sunday night, have a Mexico City.
40:49
Yep.
40:50
Those stand alone
40:51
games is
40:52
when everybody's watching.
40:53
So, like
40:53
Yep.
40:54
Changes people's opinion really good or really bad.
40:57
It could go either way.
40:58
That Yeah.
40:59
Sudden looks really bad on a stand alone game.
41:02
Now people might not believe in them.
41:04
So, like, it it changes, believe it or not, in my opinion, how people actually view teams.
41:11
You know, I'm not as worried about the Bills game as I am that Sam Fran game.
41:17
You know?
41:19
Bubba, you mentioned the elevation.
41:22
We're out of the country.
41:24
We all know we're probably gonna have to lean on a couple more wide receivers because, you
41:28
know, last time we were out of the country, Addison couldn't act.
41:31
Right?
41:32
So, yeah, just going off a track record, but I'm not worried about Josh Allen.
41:38
I'm not worried about the Bills.
41:40
I'm more worried about San Fran.
41:42
Yeah.
41:42
I...
41:43
I'm with you, coach.
41:43
I'm more worried about the San Fran game, just the fact that the Bills game's here.
41:47
But, you know, like Cely said, both those games are stand alone games.
41:52
So a lot of the world's gonna be watching to see the Bills Vikings to see how legit they
41:57
are, the San Fran Vikings, you know, how legit they're gonna be.
42:01
So it's gonna be a big big two games to so so everybody...
42:06
The Vikings are a legit team.
42:09
True.
42:09
But we've been in this position before with
42:12
the Bills, except last time it was in Orchard Park.
42:16
You know what I'm saying?
42:17
I know.
42:18
Like, I would like to think that our...
42:21
At least our defense is better than that defense does.
42:26
You feel me?
42:27
Yeah.
42:29
I just said...
42:29
I said the Bills because of the defense.
42:31
Like, their defense has given up, like, 30 points, like, think, to every single team they
42:35
played this year.
42:36
So I think for, like, a litmus test for the team, like, overall to test yourself against a
42:42
great QB like like Josh and then to go up against their defense where it's like you feel
42:46
like you should be able to put up points.
42:48
I I I felt...
42:49
I I know what you're saying, coach.
42:51
I think the 49ers are a better team.
42:52
Because
42:53
I I just think the Bills are just judged with, Cook.
42:57
And then, like, I think the defense is, like, pretty flawed, especially without, Oliver.
43:03
Like...
43:03
So I I agree with you.
43:04
I I just had, like, the Bills just for, like, the test for the whole team thing.
43:09
Yeah.
43:09
The the Bills have not given up at least over 25 points to the charges.
43:16
It was the only game they had not gotten in the twenties.
43:19
Every other game has been 29 plus on the off...
43:23
Defensive side.
43:24
So the Duels defense ain't as good as it it can be.
43:32
Yeah.
43:33
For me, I think it's the problem that a, Josh Allen presents to this defense now.
43:39
And it was really awesome to see, how the bear...
43:42
Or how they contained the bears offense with Caleb Williams, who I I think is the best
43:48
scrambling quarterback, you know, out there, playing in the game today, and and how this
43:55
defense was able to break down, especially a young player like Dallas Turner, was able to
44:00
contain and the athlete that he is, to force, Caleb Williams to stay in the pocket or if he
44:06
does escape to not allow it to hurt you down the field.
44:10
Now Josh Allen is a a different, you know, player altogether than Caleb Williams.
44:16
Caleb's big.
44:17
Josh is bigger.
44:18
And and that's what worries me is if he does get loose, can make plays with his legs and has
44:24
the big arm, can he exploit some of these things that we have?
44:27
I just...
44:28
I'm not I'm not seeing it with San Francisco this year.
44:33
I know they're undefeated.
44:35
I...
44:35
I'm just watching the games, and that wasn't necessarily good commanders team that they
44:41
kinda let hang around last night and allowed them to come in.
44:45
Their offense goes three and out against the commanders team who I don't know who they have
44:50
on their defense.
44:51
I don't feel like they're world beaters at all.
44:54
I feel like they're kinda letting teams hang around a little bit too long and and relying on
44:59
some great talent that they have.
45:00
Right?
45:00
Mike Evans, looking like a Mike.
45:02
Although, I I think he maybe suffered an injury.
45:05
Debo injured as well.
45:07
Does does San Francisco hit a stretch where the injuries finally pile up?
45:11
We know they're the oldest team in the league as far as average age goes.
45:16
You know, Kittles obviously struggled with injuries the last few years.
45:20
You know, if Brock Purdy gets injured, who's playing kind of at a really efficient level and
45:26
and managing that offense, if he goes down with an injury, can Mac Jones who's still on that
45:31
team, you know, repeat some of the success he had last year?
45:34
I I don't know if they have it.
45:35
So I don't know that San Francisco's been tested yet.
45:38
And I think that when you flip that coin and as much as we talk about the Vikings being
45:43
challenged in that stretch, this Vikings team is a challenge for the other teams that they're
45:49
facing as well.
45:50
And especially when you talk about that defense and if the offense can start to show signs of
45:56
life, that we got it.
45:59
Barbara, I kinda feel the same way with you.
46:01
I would rather lose the Buffalo, beat, you know, beat San Francisco and keep that pressure
46:08
on them for sure.
46:09
I don't wanna see this team lose at all, but if they were to lose one of them on a Monday night
46:14
on a close game because things happen in those primetime games, it's not gonna hurt my
46:19
feelings.
46:19
The games have to be...
46:20
I hope the games aren't close.
46:21
I I hope they beat the brakes off of both these teams, and the defense continues to show up and
46:26
do what they've done all season long, which is create chaos, take the ball away, and put the
46:32
offense in good position to succeed.
46:34
I really hope to see the offense come out this week and really put it to the Colts and to put
46:40
the pressure on them, allow this defense to pin their ears back early, force some mistakes out
46:46
of Daniel Jones, and just kinda pick up where they left off with that New Orleans game.
46:51
They were rolling.
46:52
I mean, you you take away the two red zone giveaways, one of them turning into points.
46:58
That game looks a lot different in New Orleans, and the offense looks a lot different too even
47:04
if you just put up field goals on both of those drives.
47:08
Yeah.
47:08
No.
47:09
I I think you're right, Bob.
47:10
I think you definitely wanna...
47:13
You know, if we're gonna lose lose to the Bills and beat the Niners, Again, I'm not looking for
47:19
any losses.
47:20
I wanna see them...
47:22
Because I think if they keep improving and that defense keeps doing what they're doing, yeah,
47:27
there might not be a loss on the schedule.
47:29
And if it is, it's gonna be a fluke loss, but I'm not holding my breath.
47:33
But I just wanna see them keep improving week in
47:35
and week out.
47:37
See?
47:37
And what sucks is a fluke
47:39
loss to us is a normal loss.
47:43
Yeah.
47:43
You know what I'm saying?
47:44
We just...
47:45
You can't even make it up, and we find a way.
47:48
Yeah.
47:51
Well So
47:52
may trade deadline if we would've lost a win or tie, they watched the Giants side, if that was
47:58
us on the offensive side, I mean, our fan base woulda had KOC and the whole coaches that fired
48:04
and trades and all that stuff.
48:06
So Mitch Borics on the way.
48:09
Yeah.
48:11
No.
48:12
It was up here.
48:13
Go ahead, Sully.
48:14
It was interesting up here when that happened.
48:16
I think people were actually happy kinda.
48:19
They were...
48:20
They didn't know how to feel.
48:21
It was like...
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They were like, we're happy.
48:24
We tied.
48:25
We didn't lose, but, like, we shouldn't have lost.
48:27
It was very...
48:28
Like, people didn't know.
48:29
Giants fans didn't know how to fill up here.
48:32
We had a tie a couple years ago, and everyone here is just like, at least we didn't lose.
48:39
Yeah.
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So that's the whole thing is when we tie, it's just like, well, we didn't lose.
48:44
I mean...
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You know?
48:47
But Yeah.
48:52
But Question
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for you.
48:55
Bubba was breaking up the trade deadline coming up.
48:58
Lot of big names circle, circulating.
49:02
I've heard Saquon, Bartley, you know, Jonathan Taylor.
49:08
Defensive side, one name that I've heard that I really, really want, Antoine Winfield junior.
49:15
I think we should bring him home and have our replacement set in stone for when Harry's done.
49:20
What do you guys think?
49:22
I I would say if I'm to open up my birthday gift this week and we got a Antoine Winfield
49:29
trade, I'm happy with that one.
49:31
I think that would be one a for me.
49:34
If I open it up and it's one of the two running backs, I'm happy there too.
49:40
To me, it's...
49:42
What...
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Can we get what...
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Can we get them without overspending?
49:47
It's gonna be the key.
49:49
You know?
49:49
Because I don't want us to sacrifice our future for some of these guys
49:53
and
49:54
be struggling down the road.
49:56
So I still wanted to be able to keep some draft picks and still be able to draft, the next
50:03
couple of years, but yet, I wouldn't mind any one of those three.
50:07
Like I said, Antoine Winfield would definitely secure us in the captain role down the road
50:12
when Smith decides to officially hang it up, I think.
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Steak one's
50:18
a good think that...
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Yeah.
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And I I kind of agree.
50:22
We we talked about it on rap show Barbara at length.
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And I guess for me, I I I wasn't digging into Sequan's recent injury No.
50:31
Injury.
50:32
I was definitely thinking about, you know, more of, like, the the thought.
50:35
Right?
50:36
The the the idea of Saquon and not necessarily the player as he is today and and that cost
50:42
being extremely high as well where maybe you're getting some development out of some of these
50:50
other guys.
50:50
I don't know that they necessarily need the running back help if both guys can stay
50:56
healthy.
50:56
The problem is that both of these guys don't stay healthy, and there's a lot of season left.
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So
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a lot more games.
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Vikings out.
51:05
Let me help the Vikings out.
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Let me see if I can call the Levy and I'm Bell.
51:09
We'll probably get them for cheap.
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Like...
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And I'd take him at this point.
51:14
Get him off the couch.
51:15
How's it going?
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Yeah.
51:18
Just to add someone in there.
51:19
Same as you, B, I don't wanna see them swing, at anything.
51:24
I don't think this team needs it.
51:26
And I think you send the wrong message to the team.
51:28
And, coach, maybe you can speak a little bit to that as well that when you are taking some of
51:33
these swings and bringing in guys that haven't been there, I...
51:37
You know, what is that?
51:38
When...
51:39
For me, I think the biggest addition that they can make right now is almost by subtraction.
51:45
Getting rid of someone who you're afraid is becoming a little bit maybe of a cancer in the
51:49
locker room with a, you know, a a Jawan Jennings and getting what you can for him on
51:55
the way out the door and, you know, kinda rolling with what you got.
52:01
Like you said, B, I'm pretty happy with where this team's at.
52:05
We're we're ascending in all the right places.
52:09
One thing I did hear brought up, you know, Jeremiah Searles on Purple Daily this week and
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kind of reiterated again with the guys today was maybe some defensive line help bringing in
52:22
some veteran depth at that position.
52:26
Because we saw it last year with Seattle, it was really their defensive line that won that,
52:33
you know, won that Super Bowl for them and carried them through the playoffs.
52:37
They were just so dominant because they were able to run-in essentially almost a new line.
52:42
Anytime they substitute it, they're running four fresh legs out there and able to give
52:47
these guys a blow.
52:48
I think there's definitely something to that.
52:50
Now we have a slight version of that with the young fellas that we have, but the inexperience
52:55
at those positions and not having them really pop off the field yet and come off the page
53:02
with the stats, I think is giving a few fans out there a little bit of pause.
53:07
I mean, you know, to answer your question, bringing in someone, how, you know, how would
53:15
it affect the team?
53:17
You know, when you get into the NFL, it's not just you playing the sport.
53:21
It's a business.
53:22
These players know it and everything.
53:24
They know...
53:25
You know, Harry's getting old.
53:26
We all know it.
53:28
If you bring someone in like Antoine Winfield and everyone can see, like, hey.
53:33
This is the plan.
53:34
This is why.
53:36
Who who knows?
53:37
Maybe one of, you know, him or Metellus get hurt.
53:40
Maybe we can throw a package deal out there with all three.
53:43
Who knows?
53:44
Bring in a package where, you know, either Hitman or Winfield comes down the line, send
53:51
him on a blitz.
53:52
Who knows?
53:52
But if it...
53:54
You gotta make it make sense at the end of the day.
53:57
No.
53:58
And I think Coach is right.
53:59
I think it's it's just a business.
54:01
And if you can make a business decision that makes sense, I think everybody will be on board
54:07
if, you know, if you make a decision and it's not...
54:11
Everybody's like, well, why?
54:13
Then I think it kinda gets confusing.
54:15
I mean, even for fans, and you you make a...
54:17
Well, it's just like, really?
54:19
Why'd you do that?
54:20
You know?
54:20
So if it...
54:22
If it's the right move, I think I think everybody will be on board.
54:25
Another name that I heard be brought up, for a trade prospect, Tony Pollard.
54:33
What are your thoughts on him?
54:35
Yea or nay?
54:37
He would probably be in my top five if I was to get the news that, hey.
54:42
He's there.
54:44
Again, I think he's probably he's probably the most reachable because I don't think it's gonna
54:48
cost us much to get them.
54:50
But, again, you know, now we're three bags and trying to figure out what bags are gonna get
54:56
the carriers and stuff.
54:57
So, you know, I'm kind of a Bubba.
54:59
I'm I'm happy where we're at.
55:01
But if the price is right, I wouldn't mind bringing somebody in if it's the right move.
55:07
I would just say as a Jets fan who has been on the opposite side of this last year, you just
55:12
have to be careful with, like, who you're going after and what you trade.
55:16
I think and the Colts thought they were a player away, and they traded two ones for a
55:22
Sauce Gardner, and it didn't end up well.
55:25
And it...
55:25
It's helping us out a lot now.
55:28
And then the Cowboys running the two for point of Williams because they thought maybe there
55:33
were a couple players away.
55:34
So you just gotta be careful with your draft picks and who you're trading for.
55:38
Sometime the trades that you don't think are that meaningful are gonna be the ones that are,
55:45
like, the most impactful.
55:47
Hey.
55:47
Big b,
55:48
can you do me a favor while I ask this question?
55:50
Can you search up, our draft picks for this upcoming draft?
55:55
You know, it's early, but
55:57
just wondering depending on what
56:00
we got because I know some players...
56:02
There's some people who are like, I want this player.
56:05
This is what I get from.
56:07
But then they think about what we have overall for draft value in our draft picks.
56:13
They're like, I probably wouldn't do that now.
56:17
So I wanna know what we got and what you guys would be comfortable giving up knowing what we
56:23
have.
56:23
Alright.
56:24
It's a deep draft.
56:25
So we got nine total picks.
56:29
We got one in the first, one in the second, two in the third, three in the fifth, two in the
56:37
sixth, and that is it.
56:42
So with that being said, we don't have a fourth, two thirds.
56:46
What would you guys be comfortable giving up if we had to?
56:49
Yeah.
56:50
We don't have a fourth or a seventh.
56:54
I'm okay with giving up any other than really a first pick.
56:57
If you because at the end of the day, I...
57:02
Like, first round picks are too valuable.
57:04
I mean, second round picks and third round picks are valuable too, but, like, I think fans
57:09
and teams can kinda live with a second round pick being traded away.
57:13
Like, a first round pick goes badly or there's, an injury or something.
57:17
Like...
57:18
And I I don't know if anybody on the market at this point is worth a first round pick,
57:22
honestly, besides So
57:25
for me, I'm trading a...
57:27
I'm I'm I'm trading assets that I don't know anything about for something that I have video
57:35
on.
57:36
I know what they're about, injury and stuff like that.
57:39
Yes.
57:39
You can say, well, you know what they're like in college.
57:42
Well, college game is a lot different than the pro game depending on what school they go to.
57:47
So to me, I'm I'm willing to deal my draft pick if I'm willing to deal a lot of my veteran
57:52
players.
57:52
Players.
57:54
Just the fact that I don't know what I'm getting in that draft pick compared to what I
58:00
have coming in.
58:02
I'm gonna sell it though.
58:03
You know, first round picks, it would have...
58:04
It would take me a lot to move on just because, typically, your first round picks are going to
58:10
be your cornerstone of your, you know, future, a k...
58:15
Unlike a couple of picks...
58:17
Or a couple years ago, but the price has to be right.
58:21
That's all that's all I gotta say.
58:22
The price has to be right for me to wheel a deal.
58:27
I just think I can find nobody's worth a first round pick unless you're trading it for, like,
58:31
a QB, which, again, the QBs you're gonna trade a first round pick for are not available at the
58:36
deadline.
58:37
So I I really...
58:39
Anybody is worth a first round pick at the deadline.
58:42
Right.
58:43
You're you're exactly right.
58:44
They...
58:45
You know, I mean, I wouldn't say everybody's not available for a first round pick at the
58:50
deadline, but it's gonna be multi first round picks.
58:54
And that's what I...
58:55
No.
58:55
I I don't like getting the Herschel Walker trade or the Pierce, you know, trade where I'm
59:02
trading three first round picks for one guy.
59:04
No.
59:05
I'm not I'm not for that unless I'm maybe getting up.
59:10
I I don't know.
59:11
But definitely not my my cup of tea to trade that much away to get a player.
59:17
Don't think it's Nolan Teasley's either.
59:19
I don't think he has any reason to to do that, to mortgage his future Okay.
59:25
To go for it this year.
59:27
You're gonna kinda sink or swim with the team you got.
59:30
If there's an opportunity to trade a day three pick and add some depth to this team, I I I
59:35
think he's in for it, but he's not mortgaging his future and trading away his first draft
59:42
picks, right, that he's got.
59:44
I think he would be more into acquiring them.
59:46
Can you go back and get something for Jawan Jennings and then flip that pick?
59:50
It sounds like you're gonna get something for the Jalen Naylor and letting him walk in a
59:54
compensatory.
59:55
Probably a six, I think, is what they're saying.
59:58
So are are you gauging that and saying, hey.
1:00:01
We're gonna get a compensatory, so we're willing to let go of ours, which is gonna be at
1:00:05
the back of that six round to add some depth in here?
1:00:08
I just don't see it unless you're able to to get a really good player, you know, expiring
1:00:14
contract on a day three pick.
1:00:17
I I think the value's gotta be there.
1:00:19
Otherwise, it feels like this team is really ready to stand pat and probably add depth
1:00:24
through the practice squad and free agents that are out there.
1:00:29
Yep.
1:00:29
No.
1:00:30
I've not given up a first.
1:00:31
I'm not giving up a second.
1:00:33
This draft is deep.
1:00:35
Okay?
1:00:36
So Mhmm.
1:00:37
If anything, I'm trying to pack them two thirds and try to get a late first round caliber
1:00:44
player or a second round caliber player.
1:00:47
But, you know, now knowing that we have that extra pick coming in is probably gonna be a
1:00:53
higher one for Jalen Naylor.
1:00:55
You got a little bit more room to work with, but that's the only way I'm seeing a move being
1:01:00
made for
1:01:01
the pitch.
1:01:01
That Eagles third rounder maybe pick, what, 70 or better?
1:01:06
Yeah.
1:01:07
Right?
1:01:09
If they tank the rest of this season out and and you're able to kind of go and get that,
1:01:16
then I think you're I think you're in there.
1:01:19
So So they're definitely
1:01:21
I'm just googling Tony Pollard.
1:01:25
They're saying that realistically, you're looking at a fourth round pick next year with a
1:01:31
combination of a couple future consideration picks.
1:01:37
So that'd be in the ballpark where I would be at for a total Pollard.
1:01:42
Yeah.
1:01:42
We don't have a fourth.
1:01:44
So what what does it become?
1:01:46
No.
1:01:46
I mean, I'm looking at the
1:01:47
third
1:01:47
and maybe a fifth and call it good.
1:01:50
I mean...
1:01:51
Or maybe trade two of the fifth and maybe something the following year.
1:01:57
You know?
1:01:57
So Yeah.
1:01:58
I think that it becomes almost a nonstarter because you don't need to add it.
1:02:04
Right.
1:02:04
I think they're really happy with Jordan Mason.
1:02:06
I think when this room is healthy, they're very happy with it.
1:02:10
And, you know, you never know what these guys are working on there.
1:02:13
Who knows if Damon Claiborne, you know, develops into the player that we kinda thought
1:02:19
he would be right away hitting the league.
1:02:21
Maybe this bye week has served the young fella well, and and you're gonna start to see, you
1:02:27
know, some more production out of him as the year goes on and having that.
1:02:31
And, you know, we'll we'll we'll see.
1:02:34
Only time will tell.
1:02:35
I'm glad that the bye week is over now.
1:02:37
Feels like it couldn't have come at a better time
1:02:40
Yeah.
1:02:40
For this Vikings team to get healthy and to get ready kind of for this murderer's row of games
1:02:47
that you're about to face.
1:02:48
And, yeah, I'm excited, man.
1:02:51
I'm ready to get back to football, ready to hit a preview show this week and and really dive
1:02:56
deep into this Colts team.
1:02:59
Selly, what do you got going on the rest of the week, man?
1:03:01
You wanna hit a deep dive on the colts with me?
1:03:04
And since since I know you're gonna be invested in this game anyway, we we could kinda talk
1:03:09
about it later this week and get a preview episode out there.
1:03:13
Yeah.
1:03:13
I'm good if you want, if you need me.
1:03:15
I'm I'm good.
1:03:16
Let's do it.
1:03:17
Let's...
1:03:18
Especially because I know you're gonna be watching this one a little more intently.
1:03:23
Anyway, great opportunity to get that done.
1:03:25
I'm a be heading out on the road Friday.
1:03:27
Obviously, gotta get up to Minneapolis.
1:03:29
Game time on Sunday is early, so I'll be rolling in to the Twin Cities on Saturday.
1:03:35
Wanna shout out BAM Media.
1:03:37
Got our ads up there running in the city and promoting the tailgate out there.
1:03:42
Really excited about getting back there and seeing there.
1:03:46
Exactly.
1:03:46
I I wanna see Teasley in the strap, and I want him to go in there with a full slate of these
1:03:52
draft picks, especially in those day one, day two picks not watching them trade away.
1:03:58
It'd have to be a really a really great player for that third round.
1:04:01
Now if we're talking about trading a third rounder for a Quentin Nelson, right, on...
1:04:07
That's a that's a different story.
1:04:11
If you're able to get that caliber of a player for a third round pick, I would be comfortable
1:04:15
for that.
1:04:15
I don't know if I'm comfortable trading that Philly third rounder.
1:04:19
Maybe you're talking, you know, our third rounder or something for that on an expiring
1:04:23
contract, but I I wanna see us go in with as many draft picks as we can so that we can
1:04:28
continue building this team into the future and being a contender, not just this year and then
1:04:33
missing the playoffs next year, which is the, you know, the pendulum of this Vikings team.
1:04:38
I wanna see us be a contender year over year, you know, for the next, you know, decade's
1:04:45
probably a little ambitious, but the next three to five years would be really awesome to have a
1:04:49
a good run here.
1:04:51
Alright.
1:04:52
I get that.
1:04:53
I get that a 100%.
1:04:56
But there's some people that would probably be like, you know what?
1:05:00
I don't care if they never win again.
1:05:02
Give me one.
1:05:04
You know what I'm saying?
1:05:05
I'm almost there.
1:05:07
I'm almost there.
1:05:09
Mortgage the farm.
1:05:10
Send it.
1:05:12
Coach, I'm with you, though.
1:05:13
The the the draft is deep this year, man, especially at receiver.
1:05:17
I mean, it's deep at receiver, like, every year now.
1:05:20
But, like, you guys could use a solid number two if I know Addison's not the most popular
1:05:26
guy out there in Vikings nation.
1:05:28
But, like, there's a lot of good receivers out there.
1:05:32
Charlie Beck...
1:05:33
Beckert, Jeremiah Smith.
1:05:35
There's Wingo at Texas.
1:05:37
So you can use those picks to draft one, or there's pass rushers, extra pass rushers if you
1:05:43
want, offensive line.
1:05:46
I I know you might...
1:05:47
Not looking at QB again, but, like, there might be a couple in the first round this year, and
1:05:52
you might wanna take a look at one.
1:05:54
Yeah.
1:05:54
And like I said, it's deep, you know, throughout the draft, not just wide receivers,
1:06:00
you know, every position to the point where one of those, you know, number two wide receivers,
1:06:06
we could probably get with a third.
1:06:10
How in the hell does LeBron James shoot under 40% and Joel Embiid shoots under 30% and that
1:06:19
team wins?
1:06:20
That's crazy.
1:06:21
They actually...
1:06:22
They play like a team.
1:06:23
Like, it was actually pretty shocking how well they were sharing the ball.
1:06:28
That's crap.
1:06:28
I'm just, like, looking at the box score, like, that's...
1:06:30
That does not look like this team should have won.
1:06:33
But,
1:06:34
yeah, the Knicks The NBA.
1:06:36
Alright.
1:06:36
Well, we'll save that for tomorrow, guest, Sally.
1:06:40
We'll save it.
1:06:41
Yeah.
1:06:42
Well, can't wait to get up there.
1:06:45
Can't wait to see, coach.
1:06:47
You'll be up there, obviously, on, on Sunday at Bad Head Bills.
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1:06:56
Check out our full schedule of games over there.
1:06:59
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1:07:03
I will make sure that the Internet connection is better this week.
1:07:06
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1:07:07
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1:07:22
Selly, I can't wait to get you out.
1:07:23
We're gonna have to fly you into Minneapolis, man.
1:07:25
Look into some cheap tickets.
1:07:27
Find when the cheapest time is to come out for the remaining schedule of home games.
1:07:31
We're gonna get you out there to do the, do the tailgate show with us live one time and make
1:07:36
sure you get back for school on on Monday morning.
1:07:39
I got it.
1:07:40
I'll I'll look.
1:07:41
Me and my mom will will take a look at some of these.
1:07:43
Alright.
1:07:43
There we go.
1:07:45
There we go.
1:07:45
Bring mom out.
1:07:46
We're putting her on the show.
1:07:48
Yeah.
1:07:48
Maybe I'll I'll go on.
1:07:51
I would love that.
1:07:53
Well, fellas, as always, I appreciate you being a part of this one.
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Yeah.
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I wish I could try one.
1:08:27
Maybe maybe soon.
1:08:29
You know, more announcement.
1:08:30
Bring the rest of...
1:08:31
They don't have any pickle flavored ones, though, coach.
1:08:35
And if they did, Danielle would Danielle would drink it before you ever got a chance.
1:08:40
Oh, yeah.
1:08:41
Oh, yeah.
1:08:41
Just to get back at me.
1:08:43
You know?
1:08:44
You know, more announcements.
1:08:47
You know, like Bubba mentioned earlier, I'll be the defensive coordinator for the Memphis
1:08:52
blues, part of the AAL, the American Arena League, and then, just recently launched my own
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brand, sports agency, Hamadol Elite.
1:09:05
And, you know, we just already, signed our first six players, and so I'll be personally
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representing these, players as their agent.
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Congrats, guys.
1:09:16
Appreciate you.
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Big moves.
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We got a lot of a lot of big stuff coming and a lot more XR extended reality, augmented reality
1:09:52
coming to our programming as well.
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So we got some learning to do.
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If you know any producers out there, Selly, and people that are good with technology, I think
1:10:01
we're gonna need somebody who's smarter than me running the ones and twos from now on when we
1:10:07
get into that, but I'm looking forward to this next chapter of the sports network and bringing
1:10:12
some more really great coverage to everything.
1:10:15
Maybe we'll be broadcasting some Memphis Blues games this year.
1:10:18
Who knows?
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You already know.
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You already know.
1:10:21
Done deal.
1:10:23
Alright, fellas.
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Well, I will see some of you on Sunday, and we hope to see everybody back here.
1:10:30
Bee, I know you'll be tapping in in the chat on Sunday even though you'll be...
1:10:33
Are you going back to work this week then?
1:10:35
Yeah.
1:10:35
I'll be going back to work Sunday.
1:10:38
You know, I took this week off.
1:10:39
So You couldn't you couldn't have waited one more day, man, and had Sunday off with us?
1:10:44
I know.
1:10:44
I've thought about that, but it was really tough to get this week off.
1:10:49
So...
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But check me out tomorrow for you.
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And Thursday night, I'll be on the bill.
1:10:58
Barbara says it's not too late to become a Vikings fan, Sally.
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Red Rover.
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Red Rover.
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Come on over.
1:11:04
This Jets stuff is like a disease.
1:11:07
I I tell people, you can't you can't break it.
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It's been in my it's been in my soul since I was eight years old.
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Well, that's just like being a Vikings.
1:11:16
I'm just a fan in general.
1:11:17
It's a disease that...
1:11:18
It's just like, can't just leave it.
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You know?
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Oh.
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Great show, fellas.
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Appreciate everybody.
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Everybody, make sure you're tuning in.
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With us tomorrow, the rim report starts at 07:00.
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Central, we'll be talking ball, lot of NBA games on the slate.
1:11:34
We'll be covering that Knicks Sixers matchup that we were talking about today.
1:11:38
Then we have the Kreese report on Thursday, and me and Selly are gonna work on getting a
1:11:43
preview episode out to you guys before the end of the week as well, previewing this Vikings
1:11:49
and Colts matchup.
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So appreciate everybody tuning in.
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Barbara, a Skull Night to you as well.
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Appreciate y'all.
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Have a great night.