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Lotus Technology (LOT): Heritage, Hybrids, and the Path to Profitability · WTR Small-Cap Spotlight

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the WTR Small Cap Spotlight Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Tim Gerdeman, Vice Chair and Co-Founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Water Tower Research.
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  SPEAKER_01: In today's podcast episode, I have the pleasure of being joined by Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wang, Chief Financial Officer at Lotus Technology, NASDAQ Ticker Symbol L O T.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also joining is my Water Tower Research Equity Research Colleague, Eric Goldstein.
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  SPEAKER_01: Lotus Technology is the NASDAQ listed intelligent and luxury mobility arm of one of the most storied names in automotive history.
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  SPEAKER_01: Founded in 1948 and reborn under Geeley's ownership, Lotus has transformed from a legendary British sports car maker into a leading intelligent and luxury mobility provider with operations across the globe.
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  SPEAKER_01: The lineup spans the Emira Sports Car, the Electra Electric SUV, and the AMIA Electric Sedan, and the brand new Forme Super Hybrid AKA Electra X in the EU and UK, built on a proprietary 900-volt X-hybrid architecture that delivers more than 950 horsepower and over 1400 kilometers of combined range.
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  SPEAKER_01: In fiscal 2025, Lotus delivered 6,520 vehicles and generated$519 million in revenue while narrowing its net loss and more than doubling its gross margin.
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  SPEAKER_01: The company runs an asset-light model supported by the Geeley ecosystem and is now advancing a strategic acquisition of Lotus UK to unify the brand under a single global platform.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a company sitting at the intersection of heritage, luxury, and the electrification of performance, a very timely and compelling conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let me start out by welcoming Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wang and Eric to today's podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Good morning, gentlemen.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: Hello.
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  unknown: Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Weng, I'd like to start with a simple one.
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  SPEAKER_01: For generations, the name Lotus has meant lightweight British sports cars and Formula One glory.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today, Lotus Technology is a NASDAQ listed company building electric SUVs, sedans, and super hybrids at a global scale.
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  SPEAKER_01: For an investor encountering the company for the first time, what would you want them to understand about the company and how is the heritage and the technology fitting together today?
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks a lot, team, for the introduction and also for the question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me clarify two critical layers of our identity and also how the heritage and the tech reinforce each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: And first, Lotus technology is far more than just a niche British sports car brand.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's already a global intelligent and luxury performance mobility provider.
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  SPEAKER_00: Skiding mass combustion sports cars, premium battery EV, SUV, Sun Sedans, and our new 900 voltage superhybrid lineups across all major markets.
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  SPEAKER_00: And our 78 years, legacy of Formula One success, lightweight engineering and aerodynamic mastery is not just marketing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It acts as the non-negotiable technical ingredients for every vehicle we produce.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our HUK HATHEL Center preserves that server-focused DNA, where our global RD and ecosystem translates Chapman's lightweight principles into the breakthrough electrification.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our 800-volt pure electric and 900-volt X-hybrid architectures solve the core problems of generic hybrid EVs, delivering track-level handling pairs with long-range daily use usability.
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  SPEAKER_00: And unlike pure EV startups, which lack the performance pedigree, or the legacy luxury brands slow to the electrification, we own both motorsports brand equity and the proprietary scalable EV technologies.
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  SPEAKER_00: They steal strength, drives premium pricing power, expand gross margins under diversified revenue.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for that uh excellent overview.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I would be remiss if I didn't say I think that the cars are absolutely beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: So with that, I'll turn it over to Eric.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, thank you, Tim, and thank you, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wang, for joining us today.
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  SPEAKER_02: We uh really appreciate your time.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, first question, let's get into um just your turnaround story.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when we take a look at um the 2025 performance, your revenues uh fell 44% to$519 million, yet your net loss narrowed uh 58% to$464 million, and the adjusted EBITDA loss improved by 63% to$356 million.
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  SPEAKER_02: So your gross margins more than double, and they turned positive in the fourth quarter at 10%.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, how do you frame the performance for investors?
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  SPEAKER_02: Is this a deliberate strategic reset?
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  SPEAKER_02: And what does the trajectory signal uh about the about things looking forward?
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Eric.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a very good question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh first allow me to briefly you know frame the 2025 and uh for the investors, the the 44% revenue drop to 518 million US dollars reflected our transitional performance, hampered by the tariff headwinds, gradual inventory de stocking, and faced rollout of our upgraded modules.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we actively pulled back in a low margin, heavily discounted volume, and also the streamlined our unprofitable region sales.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the profitability matrix tiles the pass to a clear success story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gross margin more than doubled from 3% to 9% I just mentioned, while the land loss rank 58% and adjusted E beta loss improved 63%.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are the structural gains, not one time in the cost cost only.
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  SPEAKER_00: This margin upward, you know, tragicity trajectory is our core forward signal as a founding pillar of our Focus 2030 strategy, which I think we can later on explain in more details.
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  SPEAKER_00: And moving ahead, we will scale high-margin superhybrid modules, maintain strict pricing discipline, and captured manufacturing scale benefits.
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  SPEAKER_00: We will resume sustainable, profitable revenue growth without reverting to loss making volume tactics and driving consistent margins expansions throughout 2026 and beyond.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's take a look at the um the 4Me, your super hybrid um launch.
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  SPEAKER_02: So your the 4Me, known as the Electrae X in Europe, is built on your 900 volt X hybrid architecture and has a range of more than 1400 kilometers.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh it debuted in China uh in late March, and European Union wholesale is slated for the end of uh October of 2026, and the UK and Middle East will follow.
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  SPEAKER_02: What are your delivery volume targets for the for me?
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  SPEAKER_02: And how do you uh how do you how quickly do you expect the market outside of China to ramp for the vehicle?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thanks, Eric.
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  SPEAKER_00: In China, the for me show early momentum already, with over 1,000 orders in the first launch month, which is in line with our expectation, and we target steady monthly deliveries throughout the 2026.
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  SPEAKER_00: An overseas ramp is fixed already.
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  SPEAKER_00: We already launched the Electoral X in continental Europe, and the wholesale will kick off in the fourth quarter this year, with a three or four month steady ramp to run read by early 2027.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the Middle East is expected to launch shortly after the EU year end.
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  SPEAKER_00: UK right-hand drive homologation pushes deliveries to the summer of 2027.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh this long-range high X-hybrid ICOVs, you know, uniquely solve the European charge of activities.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we expect faster order conversions once the EU deliveries start in this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let's take a look at the uh the path to improving gross margins.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when we uh we take a look at your numbers, gross margins improved from 3% in 2024 uh to nine percent in 2025.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh this was driven by upgraded model deliveries and discipline cost control.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so what are the specific levers?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, model mix, localized procurement, scale, reduced uh sports car discounting that could move LOTUS towards the 20 plus percent gross margins that are typical of a luxury of your luxury automotive peers.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what is a realistic time frame to get there?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a very good observation for the for our you know profitability performance.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our 3% to 9% gross margin jump in 2025 is already a starting point.
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  SPEAKER_00: And with four tangible and layered levels decided to push us to luxury peer 20% plus gross margins.
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  SPEAKER_00: And first, it's on the product mix.
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  SPEAKER_00: The higher margin Fermi X hybrid will become our volume backbone for this year, and later, the Type 135 sports car expected to become the halo of the brand and contributing a higher gross margin rate.
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  SPEAKER_00: And second, on about the strict pricing discipline, we have eliminated the deep vehicle discounts globally and protecting residual values and average transaction prices long-term.
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  SPEAKER_00: And third, on supply chain efficiency.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we have localized battery and component procurement cost material costs paired with the scale leverage from our dedicated EV manufacturing hub to spread fixed overheads across the more units.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the fourth but not least, on platform cost optimization, our shared PhD architectures reduce per model engineering and tooling spending.
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  SPEAKER_00: So regarding the timeline, we target double disease gross margin by full year 2026, sustained by the Fermi launch and the Electro Ramp in Europe.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: And we would be able to hit a 20% plus luxury peer benchmark by 2028, in my understanding.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: And once the high margin modules dominate our global sales mix, manufacturing scale mature, full, fully, and also supply chain localization delivers through cost savings.
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  SPEAKER_00: So these are the preconditions for us to achieve this number by 2028.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: So overall, to my understanding, this uh trajectory is structural, not temporarily.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's fantastic.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's take a look at um your liquidity situation.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: So you ended 2025 with about 73 million of unrestricted cash, and you have a master credit facility from Ghilly of up to uh 1.6 billion RB.
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  SPEAKER_02: So can you walk us through the near-term financing plan, just the interplay of the Ghillie facility, the Lotus UK consolidation, and any external capital?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and how close would you say Lotus is to operational cash flow break-even?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a question I was often asked by the by you and analysts and other investors.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think we ended 2025 with uh 73 million dollars uh research cash plus GD's RB's 16th billion, and 0.6 billion master credit facilities as our core liquidity buffers.
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  SPEAKER_00: And near term, we first draw this facility to cover the lotus UK consolidation costs, streamline the cross-border working capital and the fund market for spendings.
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  SPEAKER_00: But uh we always you know keep the external capital reasoning as an option.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh if we see the accelerated global volume expansion, that's also the reason why we got listed in the stock markets, also.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh on the cash flow break-even, our margin expansion would measure operational operating cash flow cash burn rapidly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So expect to hit operation operating cash flow break-even by 2028, driven by full by the for me overseas ramp and also the launch of max generator spots cars, just mentioned the type 135, and also along with the synergy with the lottery C UK acquisition and a sustained gross margin uplift from our time optimizing the product mix.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Great, okay, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's take a look at um the board transition, um, some recent news, and uh obviously your relationship with Gile.
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  SPEAKER_02: So at the start of June, uh Joe Zhang, uh vice president and chief financial officer of Gile Holding, was appointed chairman of the board, uh, succeeding Daniel Lee, who stepped down for personal reasons.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Gile is simultaneously your largest shareholder, a key creditor, um, the Lotus UK put option counterparty, and now through uh Mr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Zhang, also the chair of Lotus.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what does the new chairman bring to the execution of your Focus 23 2030 strategy?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a very good question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually, that's about the two one is about the the way what the Focus 2030 will announce in May, and also another one is the you know the change of the chairman of the board.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's a good question so that I can answer the both questions in one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh, Focus 2030 is a multi-year plan to scale our luxury product portfolio and reach sustained profitability with the four uh core pillars of the brand, which includes the brand reinforcement and the multi-power train roadmap, the close collaboration with the GD, and uh the fourth one, the DC Play in the financial stewardship.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's uh uh in the in the June, and you can see the release that you know, they uh we have the new chairman of the board and the GDs in the holding, GD Holdings Group CIFO, the Joe, uh brings uh take take place of the board, the chairman, and uh he brings three core strings to accelerate our focus 2030 strategy, in my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_00: First, he aligns our largest shareholder, creditor, and production counterparty on the one unified oversight, streamlining access to the GD's credit facility also.
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  SPEAKER_00: And second, his decade-long strategic finance expertise would get us faster to operating cash flow break-even, just we talked about.
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  SPEAKER_00: And third, he deepens across group supply chains and platform synergies to cut unit costs.
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  SPEAKER_00: This unified governance removes coordination friction, ensuring every pillar of our 2030 roadmap advances with the consistent financial backings.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: So that's my understanding today to your question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's take a look at um the North America strategy.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: So the US uh with US tariffs essentially you know closing the door on China-built EVs, um, it seems like you've pivoted to Canada.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the electron entered the Canadian market uh via exports starting in late April, and you've described it as the only China-built EV homologated in North America that's above$80,000.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, how large can North America realistically become on this footing?
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  SPEAKER_02: And is Canada a genuine bridgehead for the region or just a holding position while you wait on a US on any changes in US trade policy?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just quoted it before.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think the the this uh movement for us is very meaningful because uh it's uh I had a metaphor, you know, just as I'm a strong landed on the moon, not a little step of the big step of human beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think the the the our well the first batch of our you know products already shaped to the Canada and we expect to get delivered to the dealers in the end of this this month.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh my understanding is, you know, firstly, you know, the Canada itself carries meaningful volume potentially, as our exclusive North America launched foothold for the premium EVs above 80 K US dollars.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the country's high-night worst luxury buyers pace plus the preferential 6.1 tariff quota will let us scale steadily.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: We target sustainable annual Canadian run-rich growth throughout the 2027, capturing a dedicated in the performance luxury segment.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh, this market is far more than a temporary holding position.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's our long-term rich bright chart into the North America's broader region.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh we are building a full dealership over there, service and also chart infrastructure also.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: So they to expect to validate lotus premium brand, customer experience, and homologation standards.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: Why did steep the US tariff create barriers to direct China build imports today for our EV cars and Canada's established footprint?
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: This the risk, you know, any future US market if you know trade policies get softened.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: So that's my understanding to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let's take a look at the um the eCarX strategic partnership, eCarX, another company that's part of uh the Ghiley ecosystem.
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  SPEAKER_02: So in December, uh eCarX subscribed for 16.8 million uh newly issued shares at$1.37.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that was essentially a$23 million investment that deepened uh your already existing relationship that you had with the company.
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  SPEAKER_02: So beyond the capo, what does eCarX bring uh in terms of cockpit software, entertainment, and uh ADAS capability?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and how does that partnership differentiate Lotus in the intelligence race against other bigger players in China like BYD and NEO and some of the other Chinese luxury EV players?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so beyond the capital e-crax, e-cRX delivers core full-stack intelligence assets, which helps you know cut our software RD spending and speed up the overseas homologation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So collectively, the combination of Lotus Heritage, performance vehicle engineering, and uh e-cRX full-stack automated software capabilities carves out a distinct competitive mode in the global premium smart EV segments.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: And this uh partnership creates a clear differentiation with our peers.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, thank you for mentioning the big names.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: The combination of Lotus and ECRX would create an advantage that levels can barely match, in my opinion.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And this align equity tie-up, locks, long-term co-development, lifting vehicles, pricing powers for us.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: And also, I think it's also very beneficial to the development of the E-Car X.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's a two-way beneficial situation.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so last question here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's talk about the investment case.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh the stock is trading below uh the original$10 back reference price.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but with a globally recognized brand, you have your losses are narrowing, um, you have a major super hybrid launch underway, and the Lotus UK consolidation ahead.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: So for the WTR audience uh of small cap investors, you know, what is the single most compelling reason um to own Lotus today?
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  SPEAKER_02: And what is the one milestone over the next 12 months that you think investors should be looking out for?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a very good question.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think the different investors had uh different reasons to buy and hold a Lotus stock.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: And uh for small cap investors watching a lot uh treat, the single most compelling investment case, in my opinion, is our unique position as an only brand in this market, you know, has both of the following features.
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  SPEAKER_00: First, over 75 years of European performance heritage, recent DNA and global luxury brand legacy that no domestic Chinese brand can replicate.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, it includes the startup companies that uh in the industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: And second, you have a full Chinese native manufacturing supply chain and technology capabilities backed by the GD.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then we can iterate faster and price more competitively.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I think this is a very additional advantage, you know, uh added to our existing capabilities in the UK.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: And in short, you know, the foreign legacy brands may like China speed, and the domestic China brands may like the performance heritage, but we have both.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: So the critical milestone to validate this thesis over the next 12 months, I think, include the heating of the full-year double-digit full-year growth margin 2026.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: These targets relies a lot on the rampant superhybrid global deliveries, discipline pricing, and complete, you know, completed Lotus UK overhead consolidation.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: So clearing this gross margin benchmark will confirm our profitability trajectory is redirable, demonstrated our we are on the right track to hit luxury period of 20% in the margins by 2028 and uh beyond.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: So uh we appreciate you know if the the uh small cabin masters can you know take a look at the Lotus, and we'll be very happy to answer any questions they may have also.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Dr.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: Wang, and thank you for walking us through the Lotus Technology story.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: As Tim said earlier, the the vehicles are beautiful.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm very happy to see the improving results, and it looks like you guys are on a potentially you know really good trajectory going forward.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: So uh thank you for joining us, and I look forward to uh keeping track of the story.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Tim, now back to you.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for those questions, and Dr.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Wang, thank you for joining us today and uh for sharing those very detailed answers on Lotus Technology.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Great, great vehicles, uh, great company, and thanks so much for your time.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, team.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Eric.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, appreciate it.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:32
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• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: We will see you next time for another edition of the WTR Smallcap Spotlight Podcast.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: Finally, a special thanks to the producer and editor of the podcast, Krista Fitzpatrick.