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Love Conquers All…. But Do You Have To Go To Afghanistan For It?  The Internet Has Thoughts · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. It is Sunday, July twelfth, and several
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  Speaker 1: days ago Robock brought this story to me, A love
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  Speaker 1: story about a woman who met a guy online, married him,
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  Speaker 1: and now she is going to up and move out
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  Speaker 1: of the US to go be with him.
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  Speaker 2: Big deal.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen ninety Day Fiance, but I'll let roboch now
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  Speaker 1: explain why this is such a big deal and why
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  Speaker 1: this particular love story has caused a raging debate online
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  Speaker 1: with that. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I watched ninety Day Fiance, robes big deal. I hear
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  Speaker 1: about this all the.
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  Speaker 3: Time, yes, but what you don't hear is that a woman,
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  Speaker 3: an American woman, has agreed to move to Afghanistan to
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  Speaker 3: be with her husband.
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Is that? The key is that because of where.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely how women are treated in that country, how little
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  Speaker 3: safety protections are afforded someone like her. And yes, she
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  Speaker 3: might be half dry Dadian, so she, I think, may
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  Speaker 3: have some false expectations that she will be accepted, regarded
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  Speaker 3: and treated perhaps even in a different way. And there
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  Speaker 3: is real concern by people who go from calling her
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  Speaker 3: horrible names and delusional to actually having serious concern for
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  Speaker 3: her safety.
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  Speaker 1: He said, have Jordanian, but this is an American woman.
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  Speaker 1: She growing up America.
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  Speaker 2: Her mama's from Kentucky.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, her dad is from Jordan, but she has been
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  Speaker 3: raised as an American through and through.
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  Speaker 2: She's a truck.
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  Speaker 1: Driver, no indication she spent time there, has a connection there,
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  Speaker 1: has done, has got family there, has made frequent trips. There,
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  Speaker 1: no reason to think she is any way anything girl.
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  Speaker 3: No. And look, it's interesting because usually, and you kind
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  Speaker 3: of set it up this way, when we hear grand
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  Speaker 3: gestures of love like this, where somebody basically sacrifices everything
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  Speaker 3: they know and everyone they love to be with another,
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  Speaker 3: that's usually celebrated. It's romanticized. It's the stuff of rom
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  Speaker 3: comms and novel and movies. But this one, in particular,
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  Speaker 3: has literally taken over TikTok. I know about this story
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  Speaker 3: because my daughters were like, do you know about the
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  Speaker 3: woman who's moving to Afghanistan? And then I went on
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  Speaker 3: TikTok and saw everyone is saying this woman has taken
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  Speaker 3: over my feeds. It's in every single algorithm, so people
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  Speaker 3: are being inundated with her story. Her name is Alex Sonny.
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  Speaker 3: She has yeah right, it's not funny. Alex Sonny is
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  Speaker 3: her name, And yes, she went on TikTok to chronicle
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  Speaker 3: her getting ready to move to Afghanistan. Look, she does
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  Speaker 3: make the point they wanted to move here, that he wanted.
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  Speaker 2: To move here.
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  Speaker 3: And then she kept putting up videos with Trump's face
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  Speaker 3: and Rubio's face on it saying.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, ain't gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: The US government banned entry into this country for all Afghans.
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  Speaker 1: Not an option, so it will not happen.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
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  Speaker 3: And so at first she was just going to try
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  Speaker 3: and get over there to visit him, but then she
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  Speaker 3: decided she in fact was going to move.
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  Speaker 2: And there's been so much backlash, the.
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  Speaker 3: Comments, thousands and thousands of comments on each of her posts,
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  Speaker 3: and every single one of them I might find one
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  Speaker 3: out of a thousand that says, go live your life.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of them are all dire warnings.
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  Speaker 1: Dire warnings, you know what, break it down from me. Yet,
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  Speaker 1: just generally and what you've noticed, the ones that are
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  Speaker 1: against what she's doing, how many of them are feel
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  Speaker 1: like genuine concern versus people insulting her.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that's about fifty fifty.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fifty are just insults and fifty percent are actual
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  Speaker 3: folks who I do think have true concern for her.
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  Speaker 2: And look, and that's fair, Yes, fair, I think it does.
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  Speaker 3: And I really don't see any insupport of It's like,
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  Speaker 3: literally one percent isn't supportive for doing this. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Her story is much like a ninety day fiance story
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  Speaker 2: we were.
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  Speaker 1: Very familiar with. I think most people know this story
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  Speaker 1: by now, and no, I want to hear more of
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  Speaker 1: hers before I compare it to some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: we see on Nine Days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it reads.
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  Speaker 3: She met her husband on Snapchat in July of twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: They talked for five months over the phone, she claims.
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  Speaker 3: So she works as a truck driver, so she says
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  Speaker 3: she has like twelve hours a day where she's just
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  Speaker 3: driving in a truck. So she was said she wasn't
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  Speaker 3: looking for a romantic relationship, she was just looking for
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  Speaker 3: a friend, and so she found him on Snapchat. They
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  Speaker 3: started talking twelve to fifteen hours a day on the
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  Speaker 3: phone while she was in the cab for truck driving.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know what he does for a living,
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  Speaker 3: but he must either not sleep at night or doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have a job, because I don't know how he Also,
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  Speaker 3: she didn't explain how he was available for twelve to
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  Speaker 3: fifteen hours a day.
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  Speaker 1: That was my first red flag before I guessed.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, does he have a job?
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  Speaker 3: She says that she feels like she knew him forever
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  Speaker 3: because of how much she talked to him on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: She said, I did, and I've never known anyone this deeply.
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  Speaker 3: And I absolutely could say I loved him before I
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  Speaker 3: met him because of all the time we spent on
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  Speaker 3: the phone together.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like ninety day Fiana.
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  Speaker 1: I buy that, and I actually will leave a lot
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  Speaker 1: of room for that being a very true statement in
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  Speaker 1: that being possible.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And so they met in real life in December
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  Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four for twelve days.
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  Speaker 2: I don't she didn't specify where it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was not in Afghanistan, but they met in a
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  Speaker 3: country and they got married, so they made it official.
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  Speaker 3: So for two years now, she's been in a long
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  Speaker 3: distance relationship for nearly two years with her husband, and
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  Speaker 3: she says she is she misses him, she wants to
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  Speaker 3: be with him. In her last and recent post, she
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  Speaker 3: had Olivia Dean's song.
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  Speaker 2: Man I need the man that I need, or come
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  Speaker 2: to the man I need.
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  Speaker 3: Playing and she said in the Captain said, the Internet
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  Speaker 3: told me not to go to Afghanistan to be with
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  Speaker 3: my husband on eight seventeen, so I changed it to
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  Speaker 3: eight three because I miss him so much.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what she did.
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  Speaker 3: The Internet like literally told her, hell no, don't do this,
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  Speaker 3: and her response was to move up her trip by
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  Speaker 3: two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to make sure I hear all the
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  Speaker 1: story before before I comment.
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  Speaker 3: And then she says, and she goes on to explain
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  Speaker 3: she's half Jordanian, half American, but I added she's one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent American in terms of her culture and her
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  Speaker 3: experience period.
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  Speaker 2: So that is her story as she's laid it out. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: when she has like videos of.
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  Speaker 3: Her packing things and getting ready for this move, including
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  Speaker 3: she bought seven hundred dollars worth of Sephora makeup, And
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if she's doing this to be like funny,
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  Speaker 3: because then of course all of the comments are like,
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  Speaker 3: go ahead and throw it all in the trash because
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  Speaker 3: you won't be wearing any of that in Afghanistan. And
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  Speaker 3: so people really reacted to her Sephora trip and all
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  Speaker 3: the makeup she's bringing to a country where that's not allowed.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, people are like, you can't her makeup in Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but people railed against
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  Speaker 2: her for that.
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  Speaker 3: And then she was packing up gifts for the kids,
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  Speaker 3: and so people are kids like the family, like his
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  Speaker 3: nieces and nephews and aunts and all these Afghani family
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  Speaker 3: members who she's preparing to meet and wants to bring
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  Speaker 3: gifts for them, and people are writing, why are you
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  Speaker 3: packing boxes of things you can't wear or use?
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  Speaker 2: This is actually hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: So she's packing clothing and showing the clothes she's wearing,
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  Speaker 3: and literally she will not be able to wear any
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  Speaker 3: of these clothes.
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  Speaker 2: So people are going after her.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I have a bunch of questions, fire Away,
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything else? How old is she?
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  Speaker 2: Do I not know her age? And we know how
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  Speaker 2: she's in her twenties. I mean she's young, and.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know how old he is. We I assume
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  Speaker 1: do we know?
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  Speaker 2: I've seen pictures. They're age appropriate, they're both young, they're
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  Speaker 2: both early twenties.
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  Speaker 1: Any idea what her living situation is going to be
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  Speaker 1: where is she moving into when she gets there?
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  Speaker 2: Nope?
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  Speaker 1: Any idea? Okay, And we don't know all She hasn't
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  Speaker 1: revealed exactly where in Afghanistan is hit. All right, here's
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  Speaker 1: a question for you. Baby. You've seen damn near all
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  Speaker 1: of her videos. How much of this is her playing
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  Speaker 1: playing it up? Is she messing with the public a
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  Speaker 1: little bit? Is she building a following? How much of
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of egging people on versus being one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent and authentic and just documenting what she's doing.
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  Speaker 2: I think she is absolutely doing both.
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  Speaker 3: I think she is absolutely getting her social media following
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  Speaker 3: way up. She knows she is trending. She has gone
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  Speaker 3: more than viral. She has two point one million likes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she has.
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  Speaker 3: People following her and wanting updates, and people are all
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  Speaker 3: basically saying waiting for the Netflix movie because they're claiming
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  Speaker 3: she's going to end up dead or missing. But she
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  Speaker 3: knows she's She's polarizing people, She's hit a nerve with people,
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  Speaker 3: and I do think it's true. She has the pictures
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  Speaker 3: up of her husband, she has all of that, So
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  Speaker 3: I do think she's going to move to Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: But I think she's milking it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, looking she's milking it. How much? My guest question,
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  Speaker 1: how much of what you're seeing from her seems naive?
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  Speaker 1: Like there's a but well, there's a bunch. I asked
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  Speaker 1: that because you're talking about stuff she's packing and the
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  Speaker 1: gifts and clothes, and everybody is judging what you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to wear, that you're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to do this, and that I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: her situation is. She might have some set up. We're
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  Speaker 1: not aware of that stuff. Maybe she's just gonna wear
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  Speaker 1: it around the house and she's not gonna wear it
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  Speaker 1: out in public. I don't know, So I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: stop short of that. Because of this woman is moving
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  Speaker 1: to Afghanistan, she's making some preparations roles, and she knows
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  Speaker 1: good and hell well which she can can't wear and
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  Speaker 1: what she should and shouldn't pack she has to.
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  Speaker 3: I would think that her husband would be telling her, yes,
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  Speaker 3: what to expect. However, you and I both watch Ninety
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  Speaker 3: Day Fiance and it is remarkable how little people know
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  Speaker 3: before they go over to say an African country or
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  Speaker 3: a place where cultures and this is women and men
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  Speaker 3: that are completely different from their own.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when the man went over to Mada Gascar.
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  Speaker 3: When you have plenty of white women going over to
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  Speaker 3: Nigeria and they're outrage that they are frowned upon when
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  Speaker 3: they speak out, or speak loudly, or wear certain clothes,
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  Speaker 3: or they can't believe that they can't just be.
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  Speaker 2: Who they are.
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  Speaker 3: And I do think some people walk into these countries
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  Speaker 3: with an absolute disconnect from what they actually will be
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  Speaker 3: expected to adhere to.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder, and I hope she's better prepared than maybe
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  Speaker 1: some of her video suggests. I'm just stopping short of
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  Speaker 1: judging her for that because I assume she knows something
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. The other question, though, Robes, is does
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  Speaker 1: this not add We have seen plenty of ninety day
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  Speaker 1: fiance where we do question the legitimacy of the love.
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  Speaker 1: We question the legitimacy on one side. Maybe they just
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  Speaker 1: do want a green car. That's a lot of times. Robes,
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  Speaker 1: early on in some seasons, that was like the focal
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  Speaker 1: point correct they were trying to Now later on it
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  Speaker 1: became more about love and whatnot, and that's cool. This Robe,
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  Speaker 1: does it not add to the legitimacy of her relationship?
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  Speaker 1: And her love that this woman is willing to go there.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do think that it's legitimate. It does seem
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  Speaker 3: like she loves this man and she wants to be
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  Speaker 3: with him, and that is her sole motivation.
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  Speaker 2: But there are two things at play here.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the big thing that people are going taking her
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  Speaker 3: to task about is her naivete about what to expect
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  Speaker 3: when she gets to Afghanistan and what her life is
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  Speaker 3: really going to be like. And yes, you can love
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  Speaker 3: someone and think you love someone, but does that last
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  Speaker 3: in the midst of oppression? Like how does it survive
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  Speaker 3: when you don't really know what the conditions will be
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  Speaker 3: like in which you get to be together. So that's
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  Speaker 3: the first thing that the whole environment. But the other
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  Speaker 3: thing is, yes, she thinks she knows him, and yes,
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  Speaker 3: you can talk on the phone with someone for twelve
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  Speaker 3: hours a day, and yes, you can miss someone and
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  Speaker 3: yearn for someone and wish you could be with someone.
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  Speaker 2: But then the reality of living with someone.
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  Speaker 3: She's been with him for twelve days. Twelve days, she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't know about all of his annoying habits, or how
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  Speaker 3: controlling he might be once she gets to his country,
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  Speaker 3: or just all the things that happen in a relationship
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  Speaker 3: that you can't possibly know until you live with them.
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  Speaker 3: But once she's in that country, and once she's with him,
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  Speaker 3: could she leave, could she break up with him? Could
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  Speaker 3: she get a divorce? Would she have an option? This
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  Speaker 3: is all like she doesn't know anything about the relationship,
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  Speaker 3: and she doesn't know anything about what it's like to
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  Speaker 3: live in Afghanist.
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  Speaker 1: You's gotta take two different issues here. One, you and
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  Speaker 1: I have a problem with ninety day fiance scenarios. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: take Afghanistan out of it. Four a seconds. Yeah, somebody
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  Speaker 1: that you met on Snapchat that you spent twelve days with.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care if you were moving to London, correct,
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  Speaker 1: I don't gif you were move into Sydney, Australia. I
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  Speaker 1: would stop you and say, wait a minute. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's the wisest thing to do. However, Robes, I
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  Speaker 1: could eventually get on board with you know what, it's love,
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  Speaker 1: it's romance, your love. I mean, you're young, knock yourself out,
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  Speaker 1: make the mistake early if you want to, but man,
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  Speaker 1: go for it. That's one issue I take issue with
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  Speaker 1: ninety day fiance and the scenarios anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because you can't possibly know someone.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care how many time you talked to them
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  Speaker 3: on the phone or how long. It is so different
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  Speaker 3: when you are in person with them and you see
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  Speaker 3: all their gross habits and like there it matters.
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  Speaker 2: It impacts love and lust and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's challenge one. Baby. But even if you had
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  Speaker 1: the strongest long distance relationship ever and you tell me
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  Speaker 1: you move into Afghanistan, that's new. That's a new wrinkle, baby,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know how he can he not leave
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  Speaker 1: the country? Can they not leave somewhere else in the
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  Speaker 1: region where she wouldn't go? So many people have asked that,
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  Speaker 1: and does she have an answer.
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  Speaker 3: She has not responded to that, because why can't you
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  Speaker 3: all just live in a neutral country, like in a
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  Speaker 3: different country.
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  Speaker 2: Why go to Afghanistan?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he has such an established career robes that.
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  Speaker 2: Where he can talk for twelve to fifteen hours a day.
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  Speaker 1: He's the boss.
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  Speaker 2: But look, there is.
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  Speaker 1: This he can do.
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  Speaker 3: But it's funny because so many of the comments, and
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  Speaker 3: I asked you, you haven't seen this movie?
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  Speaker 2: Not without my daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone is pointing her to this movie. It's thirty years old,
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  Speaker 3: but it's based on a true story. Sally Field is
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  Speaker 3: in it. It's a phenomenal story, but it is about
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  Speaker 3: a woman and she actually had married a man. It
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  Speaker 3: was Iran, an Iranian man, and they had a daughter together,
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  Speaker 3: and he just said, can we go visit my family?
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  Speaker 2: I want my family in Iran to meet my daughter.
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  Speaker 2: We'll only stay for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: It was a little There was some unrest obviously in
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  Speaker 3: Iran at the time, but basically once she got there,
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  Speaker 3: her husband completely changed, became controlling, and she wasn't allowed
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  Speaker 3: to leave.
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  Speaker 2: She lost all her rights anyway, she ended up having
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  Speaker 2: to escape Jesus with her daughter.
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  Speaker 3: And it was the most harrowing, crazy movie ever, but
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  Speaker 3: it was a cautionary tale.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't mentioned this to the lady.
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  Speaker 2: They have every it's in every post at least twenty people.
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  Speaker 2: They have screenshots from the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, And they just keep putting it up for.
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  Speaker 2: Her to see to watch, and she's dismissed it.
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  Speaker 3: She's actually acknowledged and said, yeah, that's thirty years old,
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  Speaker 3: as if it somehow doesn't still Yeah, but she acts
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  Speaker 3: as though what was going on in that region thirty
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  Speaker 3: years ago isn't still.
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  Speaker 2: Going on now.
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  Speaker 1: It was fiction.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's basically a true story.
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  Speaker 3: It was a it was a movie made about a
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  Speaker 3: real story, and as a real life story, it's a
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  Speaker 3: phenomenal movie.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, if you haven't seen it, you should watch it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I'm actually looking at it now. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: to turn anybody off from the movie, but Sally Field
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  Speaker 1: was nominated for a Razzie for Worst Actress for the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: movie That's crazy. I'm sorry, that's so weird.
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  Speaker 2: You're an oscar.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a war. It's
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: not what you enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny.
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  Speaker 3: I love this movie and I hadn't thought about it
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  Speaker 3: and forever that's the movie. And some people keep showing
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  Speaker 3: her screenshots of the movie saying, please watch this movie
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  Speaker 3: before you leave. And look, when we come back, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna go over some of the comments because they are
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  Speaker 3: They ranged from hilarious to me and.
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  Speaker 2: To actually helpful.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, one woman who is from the region gave
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  Speaker 3: her some real life tips that actually scared me to death.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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  Speaker 3: We are talking about this story that has truly taken
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: over TikTok. If you're a TikTok user, you will absolutely
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  Speaker 3: know what we're talking about. Her name is Alex Sonny,
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  Speaker 3: and she told TikTok that she was moving to Afghanistan
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  Speaker 3: to be with her husband. She's half Jordanian, half American,
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  Speaker 3: but she's one hundred percent American. She was born and
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  Speaker 3: raised here.
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  Speaker 1: What state like Kentucky or someone, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Her mom's from Kentucky, but she is she's a truck driver.
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  Speaker 3: And look, she does look of Middle Eastern descent because
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  Speaker 3: of the Jordanian side.
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  Speaker 2: But I think a lot of folks.
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  Speaker 3: Are saying, just because you have half Jordanian and you
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you're going to be suddenly accepted as
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  Speaker 3: an Afghani woman or not have any potential target on
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  Speaker 3: your back as an American walking into a country that
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: absolutely hates Americans.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a scary, scary situation.
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  Speaker 3: And in addition to just the situation for female rights
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  Speaker 3: in that country.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what people are pointing to.
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  Speaker 3: So people are saying, has anyone informed Netflix that they
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: have a future documentary in the making?
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  Speaker 1: Girl?
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  Speaker 2: Wake up?
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  Speaker 3: I mean this in the most genuine way possible, And
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  Speaker 3: please respond if you see this, what exactly do you
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  Speaker 3: think your.
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  Speaker 2: Life will look like when you get there.
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  Speaker 3: Someone else wrote for a guy she met on Snapchat
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  Speaker 3: and only met once in real life for twelve days,
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  Speaker 3: and it was only two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And then like smiley faces and laughing faces.
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  Speaker 3: Every time I make a bad decision, I just remind
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  Speaker 3: myself of yours.
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  Speaker 2: There's that one that's mean.
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  Speaker 3: But then someone says, Hi, yes America is wildly dangerous
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  Speaker 3: and terrible. Because some people were saying, or she was
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: responding mac saying, it's dangerous here in America.
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  Speaker 2: There's gun violence here in America.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: So someone said, yes, America is wildly dangerous and terrible. However,
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  Speaker 3: I can drive, make decisions for myself, show my face,
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  Speaker 3: show my hair, and go outside alone, all things you
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  Speaker 3: will not do in Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: So then someone seems like they're being nice.
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  Speaker 3: Please ignore all of the hate everyone's unwonted opinions on this.
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  Speaker 3: I fully support your decision because I truly cannot wait
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  Speaker 3: to watch this documentary.
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  Speaker 2: So then gets off on total snarkiness.
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  Speaker 3: What.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's just the environment, right, I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: and I guess people feel differently.
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  Speaker 2: But why there's no reason to be mean?
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  Speaker 1: Why attack you can? I guess she puts it out there.
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  Speaker 1: She puts herself out there for all criticism. I suppose
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  Speaker 1: it's just it does when it turns to a mean
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  Speaker 1: spirit of nature. We don't know this woman. And most
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: people commenting, damn near one hundred percent of them have
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  Speaker 1: never been to Afghanistan either. That's so they don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the situation is. They don't know how she's going
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  Speaker 1: to be. We read about it, we see it. We
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: have an idea, sure, sure, sure, but we don't know
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  Speaker 1: what her situation is. You can comment. I just hate
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  Speaker 1: Robes anybody, even this lady, whatever her motivations may be.
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting with love being the motivation. I still believe
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  Speaker 1: that from there, let's work it out. But if your
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: heart's the right place, let's work the rest out. And
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  Speaker 1: some people are giving her, like real advice and concern
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  Speaker 1: about what she's doing. But ro just snarky is one
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  Speaker 1: thing even I can accept. But man, so it means
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  Speaker 1: I mean she's being attacked.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, people are saying basically rip sis. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what else to say, like you're gonna die and that's unnecessary.
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  Speaker 3: Now what I did, like, and I played this because
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  Speaker 3: there was a woman who put a video out and
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  Speaker 3: said basically she's from the area, she's Middle Eastern and
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: she she said, you're all over my feet and I just.
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  Speaker 2: Want to hope you get this.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a message to her, and she said,
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  Speaker 3: remember you hold an enemy passport. No matter who you're
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  Speaker 3: marrying or how much you love him, you are an
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  Speaker 3: American in enemy territory and you need to always remember that.
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  Speaker 1: Does she have dual citizenship.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if she has a Jordanian passport, and
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  Speaker 3: someone has said she does have a Jordanian passport and
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  Speaker 3: an American passport, but she has an American past.
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  Speaker 2: Pact that would be helpful if she could only use that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, But this woman said to her, if you still
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  Speaker 3: plan on going through with this, which she said, which
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think you should. But if you go through
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: with this, here are my honest tips for you. Bring
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  Speaker 3: a stack of money with you and don't tell your
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  Speaker 3: husband about it. Don't tell anyone about it. Keep that
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  Speaker 3: money with you in a safe place at all times,
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  Speaker 3: and only you can know where that money is because
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: if you need to escape, you will need that cash.
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  Speaker 3: Number Two, she said, before you leave, you must get
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  Speaker 3: the exact address of where you are staying.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that funny?
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  Speaker 3: I would never even think about how important that was.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: She said, the house, the house number, anything to identify
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  Speaker 3: where you're going to be living, and give that to
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  Speaker 3: your friends and family back here in the United States
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  Speaker 3: before you go. Then she said, if you go more
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: that tell your family. If you go more than four
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: days without hearing from me, they have to immediately contact
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: your local mayor the police, get US officials involved, because
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: anything more than four days you need to somehow try
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and get help. But also remember there is no diplomatic
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  Speaker 3: relationship between the US and Afghanistan, so you will be.
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  Speaker 2: On your own.
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  Speaker 3: You are complete, that is I just got chills from
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  Speaker 3: head to toe.
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  Speaker 1: Can you remember though, that video? You remember those videos
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: everybody running and trying to get on those planes.
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  Speaker 3: Out put those videos up on hers. I just got chills, saying,
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  Speaker 3: do you remember two years ago anyone who had any association.
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  Speaker 2: With American America.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, even Afghanis who had translated for troops, Afghani's
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  Speaker 3: who had helped or assisted in any way.
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  Speaker 1: Get the hell out, had to get out.
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  Speaker 3: If your name was connected with America in any way,
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  Speaker 3: you had and they were showing the planes of people
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: packed in to leave, and these were folks who were
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  Speaker 3: Afghanistan natives.
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  Speaker 2: Like they were.
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  Speaker 3: They lived there, they loved their country, and they had
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to get out because they had an association to America.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So she's like, you will have a target on your back.
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  Speaker 3: And so when she said all of these things, babe,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: oh my goodness, if you love this woman, if you,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine you not even maybe chaining
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: her to the room and saying you're not allowed to go.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I mean that is because the thing is, we know
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: anything can go wrong with the relationship, anything can happen.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Have the freedom to leave a relationship and physically leave
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  Speaker 3: the vicinity of I mean, that's so frightening.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: She will absolutely have no rights.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I just love is a powerful thing and people have
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  Speaker 1: done a lot for love. At what point is it
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  Speaker 1: too much? That's a question she, I guess has had
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to ask for herself. And I'm sure she's not taking
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: this lightly, even though it comes off a little lightly
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  Speaker 1: in her social media posts. Ro She's not a complete idiot.
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  Speaker 1: I am going to lean on that. She has to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: know what she's up against. She has to know, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: she has made it a made a conscious choice to
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  Speaker 1: try to overcome it. There's no way I would. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I would support somebody I loved in doing this.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think I would scream and shout and
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  Speaker 1: yell please, please please. There's no way, baby, I would
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  Speaker 1: support this.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't either, I just could not.
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  Speaker 1: No matter how much you love who this person, I
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  Speaker 1: will help you. I will fund moving that mother.
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  Speaker 2: To any other country, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You want to do. But you can't. It's just if
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: this is somebody you love, you would never want them
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  Speaker 1: to put themselves in this position. Robes. I can't even
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  Speaker 1: I can't come up with a love is a powerful reason.
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  Speaker 1: I can't come up with a legit one that I
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  Speaker 1: would say, yeah, it's worth it. What could there be.
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  Speaker 3: Only like a mother to a child or a father
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  Speaker 3: to a child to be with your child. That is
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  Speaker 3: the only good way you could even be willing possibly
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  Speaker 3: to give up your rights.
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  Speaker 2: And even still you are literally giving up your rights.
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  Speaker 1: That's it's a tough one.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of love and I root for and
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  Speaker 1: I would never tell this woman not to do something.
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  Speaker 1: But it's I am It's from concern for a rogue,
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  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people have that. If
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you do have concern for if you hop on there
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  Speaker 1: with everybody else trashing her, please be kind and let
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: your true concern come out, and don't just dog the woman.
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  Speaker 1: And the last thing she needs right now, rodes is
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: more people shit on it.
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  Speaker 3: Well when and by the way, when she felt the
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: weight of that, she moved up her trip. I mean,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: you can see how people act like you double down,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you go in the other direction. So she's reacting in
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: a way that maybe is expected. She's saying, watch me
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: move my trip up. So yes, we'll keep our eye
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: on this. She's set to leave, she claims, on August third,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: to head to Afghanistan to be with her husband.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens with.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: This developing TikTok Netflix kind of like situation where people
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: are literally on the edges of their seat waiting to
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: see what Alex Sunny is going to do. And with that, everyone,
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  Speaker 3: we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Roboch
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  Speaker 3: alongside TJ.
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  Speaker 2: Holmes. We'll talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: So back then, the kach Pus