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Announcements and a Mixed Bag · United We Scan

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  Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
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  United We Scan podcast. Welcome back, everybody.
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  Episode 58. We got a few announcements and a
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  mixed bag of stuff going on tonight.
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  We have a guest with us tonight, The Toasty.
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  Toasty. Will be joining.
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  Us. Hi.
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  And I'll go ahead and let you lead off a little introduction,
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  if you will. I'm a regular carrier in South
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  Central Texas area. I've been with the post office
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  since 2016. I'm five years regular now and
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  as of pay period two of this year and I'm looking forward to
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  adding some input to the podcast here.
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  Thank you, James. How was your week?
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  It was a lot of fun, you know. We had the winter weather come
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  through here, of course, and luckily I do not drive a
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  mattress or I'd have been stuck in a lot of places that I didn't
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  get with my LLV. That was one of the few carriers
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  that did not get stuck much. I got stuck Friday though.
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  I was having a great day and then got stuck and had to wait
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  two hours. Got O time for it though, so I'm
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  happy about that. But yeah, waiting to get unstuck
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  for two hours really sucks. No, I'm gonna say wow.
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  Do you mean you're glad you weren't in a mattress up in New
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  York? That too.
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  But we have a mattress in our office and they can't go down
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  any road that has ice on it because they won't put snow
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  tires on it. And they won't, you know, take
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  care of get us a vehicle that can actually make it through the
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  snow like that. You know, I know that front
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  wheel drive mattress fans are actually better in the snow than
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  the rear wheel drive that that they gave us, but I digress.
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  I did get stuck because another carrier got spun out in front of
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  me and blocked the road. That was funny.
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  I turned down the corner and here's a mail truck sitting
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  sideways on the road, nose nose up against the ditch, tail
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  sticking out over the lane. So I couldn't fit by and tried
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  to push it with mine. But it was a no go because it
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  was too slippery. Finally somebody came with a
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  four Wheeler drive and yanked the back end of it around so I
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  could get through and just taking it easy, nice and
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  careful. And then I delivered my route
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  every single day this entire week while other people were
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  bringing stuff back. So I was really proud of that.
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  May have taken me a little longer, but that's OK and not
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  really much else happened. I didn't get an update on my
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  grievance even though my ADR had a conversation with management
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  over it. They haven't given me an update
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  on it, but that's pretty much been my week.
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  How about you, Josh? My week was not too bad, but the
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  reference I made about with New York was apparently up in New
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  York, a Metro fan caught fire. Supposedly the battery that's
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  under the driver's seat ignited or exploded somehow.
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  That being said, we also had a mattress in my station that the
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  mechanic was there in the morning working on the brakes.
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  The carrier took off to start delivering call back.
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  Talk to the station manager. I don't know what exactly was
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  said, how it was translated, but that was smoking from the one
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  tie from the right front tire. He told her to come back.
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  She came back and there's smoke flying everywhere and by the
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  time I rode outside with my Gurney to start loading my
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  vehicle the rotor around by the rotor is in flames.
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  Luckily someone grabbed a fire extinguisher and was able and
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  got it out before there was any damage.
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  So, so except for fire extinguisher dust all over it,
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  the fire looked fine. Bill, how was your week?
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  Uneventful. Surprisingly, we're short of
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  clerks, so the supervisors are throwing packages on the belt
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  for the sorting machine we have in our office.
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  I questioned the supervisor once on Monday in regards to all my
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  forwards coming back. Gave them to them all.
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  I'll take care of them Tuesday. They all came back and gave them
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  back to the same supervisor. I don't understand.
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  I don't. OK, Wednesday they came back
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  again. I gave them to a different
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  supervisor. They oh, I don't know what's
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  going on. Thursday was fine and then
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  Friday I got at least 4 inches of of return mail that all had
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  FWD in there. I guess that meant front wheel
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  drive because they didn't get forwarded.
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  And I I, I directly addressed this with the postmaster.
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  And the postmaster says to me, oh, they're doing something up
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  at the plant. And I said, that's fine.
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  How did it end up my clerk mail? Well, no, it couldn't, couldn't
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  happen. I said, I'm sorry.
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  I pulled it out of the hot case. How could it not be clerk mail?
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  And she goes, you must be mistaken.
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  I looked at her. I said that's the second time
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  you called me a liar and I walked away from her because it
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  is the second time. The third time I'll be getting
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  an EP because I'll fly off on this person.
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  They are the most incompetent, lazy management crew I've seen
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  in 26 years. It's it's frustrating to the
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  point of, you know, what can I say, you know.
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  Well, I can't say what I want to say.
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  Surprisingly, though, Amazon's been like this, you know, whole
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  week as far as the parcel is concerned.
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  The Spurs are still running, you know, 10 to 14 trays a day, but
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  the parcels have really been, you know, in in the 40 and less
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  range every day of the week. So I guess everybody's run out
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  of money for Christmas or they order used up all their gift
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  cards already because it when when I get one hamper, that's a
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  light day for me. I hear you I my Amazon's been
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  fairly late this week too. And you know it's funny what
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  you're saying about getting the mail and through your clerk mail
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  with with the forward sticker on them that just says forward.
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  I'm assuming you're talking about flats, correct?
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  The. Letters.
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  The letters. Oh letters, letters, letters.
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  I now I was getting my flats back and and my helicopter flats
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  and my route sorted flats in front of the case that comes or
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  the tub that comes to my case. I had a couple days this week
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  and I was like wait a minute I thought these in for forwarding
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  and they had the little forwarding barcode on all the
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  flats. I was like, I've got those two
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  or three times this past week like that too, so.
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  I did get a bundle like that where I had eight flats and and
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  they were All in all Polly's and all were written on their
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  forward UTFRTS on each one not you know the the top one or
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  anything like on each one And they all came back and I just, I
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  just shake my head as I hope we get this during the mini mail
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  survey. Right.
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  Oh, yeah. I've many times I've had stuff
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  that I've tossed back into that throwback or into the three M
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  and it comes right back to me within a couple days.
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  Like it never even got processed the way it was supposed to at
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  the plant. Or it never left the office.
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  That too. No, actually, I've had stuff
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  coming back in my DPS, so I know it left the office if it was in
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  the DPS. That's what gets me but.
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  Admire you. A plant can do no wrong.
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  No, never. I just have the Metroplex out of
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  Detroit. Shout out to the Metroplex.
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  Yeah. Yeah, you.
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  I'm talking about you. Anyways, I my week wasn't too
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  bad. I had another shadow day on
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  Wednesday. I am trying not to be overly
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  optimistic about this person, but I think I found a keeper.
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  We'll see. He goes to Academy this week,
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  but he was already connecting out on the route, The stuff that
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  I was explaining to him in the office at the case and he was
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  verbally talking. Oh yeah, this was what you were
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  talking about. You know, It was already
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  connecting it. On his Shadow day.
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  We did talk a lot. We had some good laughs.
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  I forgot a couple packages to deliver because we were talking
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  and had some good laughs. So I'm like, and this is what we
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  do when we forget a package or we miss one and went and had to
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  go take care of those before we headed to the next part of the
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  route. But other than that, yeah, it
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  was Thursday was a super late. You didn't forget them, you did
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  it for a training for a moment. Well, I didn't mark my packages
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  either, so yeah, I forgot them. And and remember the golden
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  rule. If you forget it, it's the sub's
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  fault or trainees fault. If, if, if if they forget it,
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  it's going to be blamed on the regular.
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  He actually did. Apollo, I am so sorry to you
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  that I got you preoccupied, you know, distracted.
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  I'm like, Oh, no, no, it's all right.
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  Yeah, It was thick fog out that day too.
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  So I was actually trying to pay attention and see if there was
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  actually cars coming that didn't have headlights on and thick
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  fog. So because people are stupid
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  like that. But so yes, people out there, if
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  you're listening and you're driving and thick fog, please
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  put your headlights on. Thank you.
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  The people who are driving close to Sunset and they think they
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  can see it well enough without their headlights, doesn't mean
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  other people can see you exactly turn it.
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  Damn lights on, you know. And then I and then come
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  Thursday morning, I wrote up that the LLV that we had for
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  Wednesday because the LLV assigned to the Ox ropes one
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  with the jump seat in it. And so you know we just trade
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  with the OX carrier that day when we need it.
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  I had to write it up for transmission issues and I handed
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  it to the postmaster specifically on Thursday morning
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  and I then told her that yes, it was very very slow all day.
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  And so when I got to the end of the route and turned back on to
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  US 23 to drive a couple miles back to the office, I put the
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  pedal to the floor and it still was barely at 35 miles an hour
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  within 1/4 to 1/2 mile down the road.
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  Yeah, yeah. So I said, yeah, I need that
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  truck fixed because we actually have two more shadow days in my
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  office coming up this week, Tuesday and Wednesday.
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  Two more routes. And being the the OJT in the
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  office, I better get mine trained because I'm going to be
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  busy. You know, with a wrench you can
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  just take it out of one truck and put it in another.
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  Yeah, yeah. That no, our office wouldn't do
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  that. They would send it to our
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  contracted garage and have them do that and actually pay
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  whatever they charge to do it. But they won't do that.
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  They won't take it out of the one truck and move it around so.
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  I'm just saying on. There I I'm very well aware it
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  can be moved from truck to truck to truck.
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  That's, you know, but it's. Our one supervisor does it just
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  because it's even though the VMF is the one that's supposed to be
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  doing it, because it's just easier for him to get in there
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  with his wrench and pull it out, move it over to the other truck,
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  and then put it back in. Yeah.
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  No, they won't do it so. Actually, half the time they sit
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  somewhere in the back of the office, not even in a truck.
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  And our offices do that, but ours does not.
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  Just saying. That and watch out the last time
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  I had a truck that had transmission this use, so I've
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  never saw it again. Yeah, yeah.
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  We'll see. What happens my truck that got
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  towed in back in August? You never got it back.
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  No, they reassigned it to the other office.
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  All right, so I'm going to start off.
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  We received a voice message on our Spotify, just questioning
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  some things that we talked about on the last episode.
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  So I'm going to play that real quick here.
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  Let me pull it up again and then I will let and then we will go
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  ahead and just kind of discuss what they were talking about or
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  questioning again. And that way they'll they'll
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  know when they're listening this week.
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  So let me go ahead and play this.
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  When you're saying do the scams. On the very Last Post that you
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  did and the field around the post office what?
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  Exactly, are you? Scanning because I don't think
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  I've ever scanned anything outside the post office other
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  than out on my route. And what are you talking about?
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  The red marker in marking out the bar codes on the mail?
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  I don't get it. I don't understand.
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  With that, what with the scanning outside of the Geo
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  fence which is the perimeter of the parking lot and the
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  building, if you have a package, let's say for example it's a no
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  access for whatever reason or no one's home or you missed a
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  package, you off the end. Of day.
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  Even though you scanned it, it didn't clear off the end of day
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  when you get back to the office. You for integrity purposes
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  you're not supposed in the afternoon and I may vary from
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  location to location. I know we were told 3:00 PM.
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  Anything 3:00 PM and later cannot be scanned inside the
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  post office. So when you come back in the
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  afternoon you should not have any packages or barcodes that
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  have not been scammed prior to you coming back in.
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  What I was talking about with the red marker is what they what
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  they called dead mail, stale mail, old mail, anything that
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  was should have been delivered prior to the the day if I bring
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  it back or if it's closed business on Saturday.
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  What they wanted us to do is put a with the marker, put a line
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  through the barcode. So if I get an SVM on Monday for
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  an address, I'm not scanning that letter.
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  And what they actually did this Saturday yesterday is they gave
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  us a print out that says this is old stale mail, do not scan it
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  for an SVM. So any business, you know, any
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  mail that was residual from Saturday, I'm supposed to bundle
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  it in that paper, that sheet of paper, and then put all the rest
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  of the mail for that address. And then if I get an SVM, I'm
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  only scanning the mail that's not within that, you know that I
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  don't have cup in that paper. Hopefully that clears that up.
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  I don't know. Do any of you guys have anything
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  you wanted to add in that in this regard?
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  Well I was just going to clear on it's the the thing that the
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  directive that's come down to many places on the scanning
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  barcode parcels after 3:00 PM in the office.
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  So like I was saying for something doesn't clear on the
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  end of day even though you may have had to manually enter it in
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  out of the route or you did scan it.
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  But for some reason it never fell off the end of day because
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  you know we all know what happens from time to time and
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  they you can't enter that in at the office they want you to go
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  off site. It's that Geo fencing around the
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  office that you need to go outside of in order to clear
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  that parcel off of the end of day.
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  And then and then with the SPM scans, it's just his office
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  wanted them to mark off the barcode for something that was.
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  So you're only scanning the current day's mail that comes in
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  under that SPM and not anything that was either brought back or
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  was on hold or a business closed from previous days?
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  Right. And I just wanted to clarify,
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  you'd said manually. And what Chris is talking about
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  is in the regular scan screen, you type in the number, you're
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  not going back to the main screen and going down to
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  manually input. No one should ever, no one
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  should ever use that because with that you have to put a date
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  and time, and with that they can say you're falsifying those.
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  Scans, some of the insight on this, why they're doing this is
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  not because of carriers. Let's make that clear.
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  The integrity scans that they're talking about is not because of
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  carriers. This came about because they
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  were managers that were turning around and inputting scans on
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  carrier deliveries that were missed or were not delivered and
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  scanning them as customer hold or no access, things like that
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  and basically falsifying scans. Management mostly was the ones
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  doing that. Granted, there were some
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  carriers that probably were, we do not know for sure, but 99% of
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  it was management falsifying information.
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  So it came down from district that it's no longer going to
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  happen inside the offices and management turned around and put
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  it on the carriers as the onus of who has to deal with it.
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  So unfortunately, they may turn around and say, well, you're
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  going to have to go back out and knock on the door if you didn't
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  scan it, things like that. Better make sure they're paying
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  you for doing that as well. And and understand that geofence
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  is an invisible boundary, creating a perimeter of your
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  post office that Gans will show up as being basically falsified.
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  And that's why they want you to drive like a quarter mile, half
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  mile away from the building and all that.
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  Unfortunately in my office they have somebody that turns around
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  and says them, you know, if you want that scanned, here you go,
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  here's my keys. You go do it.
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  I'm not, you know, I'm not falsifying the information,
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  period. Whenever you do have a situation
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  where you have a package that you inadvertently missed
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  specifically, like a spur that fell out of a a tray into the
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  wheel well on the opposite side of the truck, your best bet is
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  to scan No access. Because then you're not required
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  to leave a 3849 Ford either. Which is one of the corrections
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  they finally made on that. Because when they first came up
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  with this system, if you put no access, they actually wanted you
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  to fill out a 3849. And if I didn't have access,
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  where am I going to put the 3849 folks?
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  Or you know, hopefully, you know, like many of us, I always
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  double check my truck before heading back to the route or
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  heading back to the office and if I miss something, I try to
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  deliver that before I get back to the office.
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  So but yeah, it's or if you were or if you're in my office and
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  you miss it and management will send you back out to to deliver
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  it. So it you know.
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  But basically. Yes, it is.
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  Yep, sure is. I like to use the load truck
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  feature and then use the package look ahead to see what I
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  actually had of them, what I actually don't have.
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  That helps it you're presuming that that actually works.
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  Yeah, if it's working that day. If it's not, then yeah, I'll
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  usually if it my last stop I'll double check all my tubs, make
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  sure I didn't have anything left behind and then if I have
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  something that I miss, I'll put it as no, no access to but.
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  Yeah, I'm just not gonna waste my time with the load truck
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  feature. Yeah, I I don't either.
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  The load truck feature is nice if you have a label that's
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  screwed up and you can't read where it goes.
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  Or UPS flaps one of their stickers over where the address
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  is so you and then when you kill it, you can't.
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  The Load truck gives you not only the sequence, you know what
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  section 123456, but what the sequence number is and the
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  physical address that it goes to.
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  Yep, so the only times I use load truck is in that situation.
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  Or when I have that big large heavy box in the back and I
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  can't see the label. I forget exactly where it goes,
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  but I can't see where the label is from the driver's seat.
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  I can go to load truck, reach back and scan it from the
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  driver's seat and see, OK, I know this is on the my next
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  block or this isn't until my next neighborhood.
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  Just as a remind to me, instead of having to get dismount and go
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  to the back and turn it around, look at the label again and then
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  rearrange everything and start going again.
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  Because I know I've missed them a couple of times.
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  Not seeing, you know, not thinking to look at the big huge
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  heavy box, but looking at all the other parcels I have and
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  then handing up having to loop around at the end of the route
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  for the big heavy one I haven't had to.
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  Freaking nature like me and not use a load truck and very rarely
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  look at your package look ahead except for maybe at the end of
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  the route. To make sure I don't look.
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  Clear and not mark a single. Thing we you and I have talked
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  about the sport. I miss them when I mark them.
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  What makes you think I'm going to get it right without marking
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  them? Right.
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  Right, that's except. For except for on my shadow
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  days. And we're talking and laughing
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  and and and having a good time. And then, yeah, I tend to.
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  My brain ain't functioning quite right then, but yeah.
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  I oh, I only. I only mark my curbside delivery
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  now because everything else is CBU, so I kind of sort them as I
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  get to the locations. Yeah, I gotcha.
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  My first neighborhood is only 70 addresses and at two by two by
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  three grid. So when I first pull it, we are
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  long waiting for the truck to warm up enough and and go
• 24:57
  through at least one cycle so it doesn't bottom out on me.
• 25:02
  When I'm trying to drive down the road and feel like it's
• 25:04
  going to stall, I'll sort them out real quick and line them up
• 25:08
  in order because I delivered them the the parcels before I
• 25:13
  get to the CVU to the door. My second one is the condos
• 25:18
  which we talked about in the past which have 200 units with
• 25:22
  two teeny tiny parcel Walker. So I have to drive around that
• 25:24
  whole neighborhood to deliver the parcels.
• 25:27
  So I just put them in the on the left side on the you know in
• 25:31
  that step well and then sort them after I deliver the mail at
• 25:37
  the CBU guess is? Where I I I'm.
• 25:41
  I'm lucky though, is because I only have two of my condos only
• 25:47
  are only two dismounts I have for my CB US.
• 25:51
  The rest of them I can access right from the truck.
• 25:54
  So it's a little different for me on my end.
• 25:57
  You know, like every route has its own individuality.
• 25:59
  So we're going to move on though.
• 26:02
  Right, Well I only have of almost 1000 addresses.
• 26:06
  I only have I have less than 300 curbside the rest of the CBU so.
• 26:12
  Yeah, see. And the mine's different.
• 26:13
  I have 686 curbside and only 101 CBU boxes so I get that.
• 26:20
  Right. Well, I've said it in the past.
• 26:22
  I'm truly on a on a city route. All right.
• 26:27
  James, you had an announcement. Two of them actually, now, but
• 26:33
  the very first one I want to announce is at the graciousness
• 26:38
  of Bill, I'm going to make the attempt to make it to Southwest
• 26:43
  Area Conference. Yay, in Oklahoma buddies.
• 26:48
  Yeah. So we're going to be there.
• 26:50
  And if you're going to slack, meet us there and hang out, talk
• 26:55
  with us. We'll be there to answer
• 26:56
  questions and chat with you about our candidacy for it.
• 27:01
  The other announcement I have for that is next week's episode
• 27:07
  of this podcast will be AQ and A with the candidates running for
• 27:13
  office. We have a Google form for you to
• 27:17
  ask questions, so if you want to hear your question asked and
• 27:21
  answered on this podcast, we're going to try and get as many of
• 27:24
  them in as we can. Fill out the Google Form and
• 27:29
  we'll try and get your question answered.
• 27:31
  Here on the podcast. With each of the candidates will
• 27:34
  be Bill for President, Kristen for Vice President, and myself
• 27:38
  for Director of Stewart Operations.
• 27:40
  So get your questions in and we'll try to answer them all for
• 27:43
  you. And you can find that Google
• 27:45
  form on our Facebook page and as well as in our Facebook group.
• 27:51
  I do believe I had them penned as featured in the group and I
• 27:55
  know they are on the page. We do have several questions
• 27:59
  already that have been submitted.
• 28:00
  So get them in guys, and we'll be happy to address them next
• 28:04
  week for sure. And and I did respond to the one
• 28:10
  we saw today that James prompted me on SO.
• 28:14
  Yes, we do also have on our Discord.
• 28:17
  On our Discord server we do have a channel just for asking
• 28:22
  questions to the individuals, so that is also available as well.
• 28:30
  And please, no more pink thong question.
• 28:34
  It's true. I won't deny it.
• 28:37
  All right. So where we going from now,
• 28:40
  James? I know.
• 28:43
  I mean the biggest thing that we want to take everybody to take
• 28:46
  away from this is we have people trying to listen to the craft
• 28:51
  and make it better for the craft.
• 28:54
  The biggest thing is, is if you want to ask questions of how
• 28:56
  we're going to do that, you need to fill out that form so we can
• 28:59
  announce it live on the next recording that we do.
• 29:02
  And if you're part of our Discord, you can actually listen
• 29:06
  to the the recording of the show prior to it being posted on our
• 29:12
  podcast platforms, on our Discord server.
• 29:14
  We actually have a live stage with audience members for you
• 29:19
  guys to listen to us, so. And this is kind of like our
• 29:23
  own, our own public caucus put so to say.
• 29:27
  So for those that are unable to go to National Convention or
• 29:30
  won't be able to be a delegate but still want to get the
• 29:32
  information and talk to the people that they're voting for
• 29:36
  as delegates to say, hey, check these people out.
• 29:39
  You know, they were asked this and this is how they answered.
• 29:42
  This is kind of like our own public caucus, in a way.
• 29:45
  This, this all goes back to, you know, the delegates.
• 29:48
  OK? And you know, I I filled my
• 29:52
  delegate form out and mailed it in.
• 29:54
  Everybody who wants to attend the National Convention needs to
• 29:58
  fill out that delegate form and send it to your appropriate
• 30:02
  secretary, treasurer, whatever PO Box you're operating out of
• 30:06
  in that state and, you know, become a registered candidate to
• 30:10
  be elected as a delegate. And with that, you have to
• 30:15
  remember you don't have to vote for all 44475022 available
• 30:23
  delegates. You can only vote for yourself
• 30:26
  and for those who reflect and you know agree or or or along a
• 30:32
  line with your views in regards to what direction we need to
• 30:36
  take this union. In the past 20 years, we've seen
• 30:41
  how the National Board has just been a musical chair fiasco
• 30:47
  where we just keep handing it down to the next person in line
• 30:51
  according to the loyalties of the Gang of Nine.
• 30:54
  For there's nine positions up there and it hasn't served us
• 30:58
  well. It hasn't served the craft well.
• 31:01
  I I still go back to the point where Ronnie Stud stood there
• 31:06
  and defiantly said we will not implement Rex until we have full
• 31:11
  transparency. Well, we don't have full
• 31:15
  transparency. Ronnie Stutz is gone.
• 31:17
  We have a new President. Transparency is still not
• 31:20
  available and as late as late yesterday we still had people
• 31:26
  asking what are the reports that they're supposed to have.
• 31:30
  While management's required to put the radar reports up.
• 31:33
  You shouldn't have to ask for them.
• 31:35
  But if you do have to ask for them, get your grievance form
• 31:39
  out your 8191 and fill it out and file.
• 31:43
  If it is your local steward, your area steward, your ADR.
• 31:47
  If you need to go to your Dr. or even your your NRO, then get it
• 31:52
  filed because you're entitled to that information.
• 31:56
  With the upcoming mini mail survey and the fact that we
• 32:00
  still don't have resolution to some of the first survey
• 32:07
  disputes, we need clarity. We need transparency in regards
• 32:13
  to where our values are in evaluating our route.
• 32:18
  You might not call it account anymore, but it's basically
• 32:21
  account now. We have mini Mail survey as the
• 32:26
  what do you call it, the non Carpenter in regards to how we
• 32:31
  are being paid folks. If you're not paying attention,
• 32:36
  if you're not on the website, if you're not on rule info net or
• 32:41
  or any of the multiple websites out there for rural carriers and
• 32:46
  rural carrier associates union and non union, OK, you're not
• 32:51
  taking advantage of that information that's available to
• 32:53
  you. You're only hurting yourself and
• 32:57
  unfortunately down the line you'll be hurting the person
• 33:01
  behind you who may be taking that route when you bid off of
• 33:04
  it. So look out for yourselves, look
• 33:07
  out for the people behind you, Look out for the people next to
• 33:10
  you. And with that, I I'd have to ask
• 33:14
  Kristen, I you know, because this is not something that's all
• 33:17
  going on in the PA Two district. What are they training the new
• 33:22
  people in regards to the Academy, with regards to recs?
• 33:28
  Are you training people with Recs?
• 33:32
  Honestly, that's a good question for the Academy instructors
• 33:34
  themselves. I know last year they were given
• 33:39
  the addendum to Rex scanning. They did not have enough copies
• 33:44
  to give every new person at the time.
• 33:47
  So it was from my understanding when I last talked to an Academy
• 33:51
  instructor about the Rex scans and now this has been a while.
• 33:54
  I will definitely be going back and asking my Academy instructor
• 33:58
  friends to double check and I will clarify next week what I
• 34:03
  find out and information wise. But my last time I knew that
• 34:07
  with the Rex scans it was only a 1520 maybe 30 minute
• 34:13
  explanation. It wasn't in depth or anything.
• 34:19
  Now our last new RCA that came into the office I did not train.
• 34:22
  Our old trainer trained him on his route so but I know even on
• 34:27
  my shadow day I was kind of going over the scans on my
• 34:31
  shadow day with my new sub. Unfortunately I won't have him
• 34:36
  for on the job training for a couple weeks.
• 34:39
  Like said he will be in Academy this week and then he is
• 34:42
  actually already. It was a pre planned.
• 34:45
  We'll be out of town the following week so I will start
• 34:50
  training him on Saturday the 10th and on Monday.
• 34:55
  Yes, I will be OJT ING on Monday only because I will be gone on
• 35:01
  Tuesday and then we'll be picking it back up.
• 35:04
  He is actually going to be splitting the route with a
• 35:07
  borrowed RCA that has ran part of my route in the past.
• 35:12
  On Tuesday he will be doing part of it on his own and then
• 35:16
  Wednesday I will be back in the truck with him.
• 35:18
  But no, I was even already kind of going over the scans a little
• 35:22
  bit when he came in. Again, they don't have them in
• 35:26
  my office. Come in till half hour after
• 35:28
  start time, which is really, I think it sucks, honestly,
• 35:33
  because you can't go over that. This is, you know, grab your
• 35:35
  scanner, go swear you would grab our keys.
• 35:39
  This is what we do when we log in and go over that whole thing
• 35:42
  with them. That really bummed me out.
• 35:44
  I was actually already done casing flats by the time he got
• 35:46
  there. So you know, I did try and go
• 35:51
  over as much as I could with him as we were doing it.
• 35:56
  So I will definitely be going into more in depth training when
• 36:00
  he gets in the office again. But as far as Academy, I will
• 36:04
  double check with my Academy instructor friends and see how
• 36:08
  much of Academy is actually on the wrecks.
• 36:12
  And that is also one thing that I want to look at too is, I mean
• 36:17
  that is a daily importance of the job.
• 36:21
  I think it needs to be more than just a quick little overview.
• 36:27
  Well, in the comments Kristen, I owe you one now, said last year
• 36:32
  they taught nothing except the basic 6 up and until September.
• 36:36
  OK, the manuals had absolutely zero info about Rex.
• 36:41
  Gotcha. Yeah, I that's.
• 36:45
  And then the one thing that I heard was they, I mean a lot of
• 36:47
  trainer, a lot of a couple of the instructors that I know,
• 36:50
  we're actually printing out their own materials and taking
• 36:52
  them in to go over it with them. And and there's.
• 36:56
  A problem right there because it's management's responsibility
• 37:00
  and nobody's making management accountable for that.
• 37:03
  Now, in lieu of that, being rural carriers, we need to step
• 37:08
  up to make sure that if you're training somebody that you know
• 37:11
  that we train them on what we know what's available, you know?
• 37:15
  And if you're like in my office, all you got to do is walk over
• 37:19
  to me. I have a ton of paperwork piled
• 37:23
  up at my case in regards to the wreck.
• 37:26
  And if it goes, if you get that carrier in after two pay
• 37:29
  periods, comes the year round again.
• 37:32
  Drum it into their head about the wrecks.
• 37:34
  Give them, give them another copy.
• 37:35
  I have that sheet here, have another one.
• 37:38
  Doesn't hurt to have you know you know.
• 37:40
  One to read in the bathroom downstairs, one to read
• 37:43
  upstairs, one to read in your car.
• 37:46
  If you don't commit it to memory it you won't put it into action.
• 37:51
  And if you don't put it in action, it doesn't go in your
• 37:54
  wallet. And this is where I'm really
• 37:57
  this is going to be interesting for me with this new, with this
• 38:01
  new RCA in training. I like I said, I'm actually
• 38:04
  really looking forward to training him.
• 38:05
  He seems very gung ho on this. He learns he's more of an
• 38:11
  audible person. I I was asking how he best
• 38:14
  learns. I even on Shadow day just so I
• 38:17
  can get a feel for him. He also has a photographic
• 38:20
  memory. He it was like I said he was
• 38:25
  connecting stuff right out there.
• 38:26
  Super intelligent. I really looking forward to this
• 38:30
  mini mail survey coming up February 24th through March.
• 38:38
  What guys? 8th 8th March 8th.
• 38:43
  All right, yes. That first weekend of March,
• 38:47
  March 1st is. I will be gone for my personal
• 38:52
  weekend away, my tattoo Expo weekend as I go every year, and
• 38:58
  then March 8th weekend I will be gone for our state spring
• 39:02
  booster. I will be pounding in wrecks
• 39:05
  while I have him because then he is going to be running my route
• 39:09
  while I'm training the other two new RC as as well and I will be
• 39:14
  gone. So.
• 39:17
  I I can't stress enough that everybody that has you know a a
• 39:22
  a piece of this pie in regards to training.
• 39:25
  Regardless of how you know. You case your mail, how you do
• 39:28
  your your sortations for parcel spurs, whether you use load
• 39:32
  truck or not. Every time you get a trainee on
• 39:36
  your route, instill in them the importance of the reps and you
• 39:42
  know make them as as educated as you are so that the route gets
• 39:47
  true value evaluation. And you know you don't have to
• 39:50
  sit there and worry about it when you go on your you know
• 39:53
  tattoo weekends or your state so you know mini's conference,
• 39:58
  whatever. Doesn't matter, educate them.
• 40:01
  The only thing you're doing is is protecting yourself.
• 40:06
  Exactly. And and a more intelligent
• 40:09
  trainee is a dangerous trainee for management.
• 40:14
  Yes, and I I'm looking forward to it.
• 40:18
  He is very gung ho about this job.
• 40:20
  He I will talk more about him once I start getting him
• 40:24
  trained. But even just my one day with
• 40:26
  him on the Shadow, a day I was like we've got to keep her as we
• 40:31
  all know. We can tell almost from the
• 40:33
  moment we meet them whether they're going to be if they're
• 40:36
  going to make it or not. Am I right guys?
• 40:39
  Yeah. For the most part.
• 40:43
  For the most part. And once we got once he what in
• 40:48
  that case and describing after Maddie and Mattakin and and the
• 40:51
  whole time on the route and afterwards.
• 40:53
  Oh yeah, I I've got to keep her. And I like I said, I'm trying
• 40:56
  not to be overly optimistic, but I am thrilled.
• 41:01
  I'm going to be really curious. Like I said, there's another
• 41:03
  shadow coming in on Tuesday for Route 4 and one for our 11 on
• 41:06
  Wednesday. I will see how those two tend to
• 41:12
  be, but I think if if everybody works out, fingers crossed we
• 41:18
  will have 1234 really, really good.
• 41:23
  RCASI did let the kid know. I said, you do realize, I said
• 41:28
  that you are going to be the one helping these new RC as once
• 41:32
  they get out on these routes by themselves after I've trained
• 41:35
  them, said you are going to be the one that's going to be going
• 41:38
  out there and assisting them and rescuing them.
• 41:42
  And he just kind of got the big smile on his face.
• 41:45
  I said, you got to realize it took some of us years to get to
• 41:48
  that point. It only took you a couple
• 41:49
  months. And yeah, you should always
• 41:52
  advise them when they help others.
• 41:54
  They get a 5% boost in pay and then they look, look at you and
• 42:00
  you start start laughing at them, you know, no, I'm kidding.
• 42:03
  No, no, I won't do that to him. I won't do that to him.
• 42:06
  No. He's a good kid.
• 42:07
  He is. You won't.
• 42:08
  You won't even get an attaboy or anything.
• 42:11
  No, no. He's going on a route that you.
• 42:14
  Will person will give him the attaboy?
• 42:16
  He's going to be on a route tomorrow that he's only ran
• 42:18
  parts of here and there. He did part of it Saturday.
• 42:24
  He had a bad day. Sarah, I want you to get talking
• 42:26
  to that discussion, but I haven't worked out with the
• 42:28
  supervisor because this is the one that I did not train.
• 42:31
  He and I are going to go. We have been approved to go in
• 42:35
  early tomorrow morning. Instead of 730, we're going to
• 42:39
  come in at 7:15. I got a text and remind him and
• 42:44
  I will be assisting him getting the mail ready to go for that
• 42:47
  other route that he really hasn't had much experience on.
• 42:51
  Like I said, he's gone out and helped on it and seems to like
• 42:54
  it then, but when it comes to casing and whatnot he does not
• 42:56
  help have a lot of. So.
• 42:58
  This will also give me a chance to see how much more work and
• 43:01
  certain aspects that he needs as a newer RCA since I did not
• 43:05
  train him myself to see OK, where where are these other
• 43:09
  things that we can work on with you to get you even above where
• 43:13
  you're at now. So and that way he is will be
• 43:17
  available to help the other three once they get out on their
• 43:20
  own. Kind of.
• 43:23
  I kind of miss my bunk, buddy. James, you still there?
• 43:25
  Not. Here, but I was letting Kristen
• 43:28
  talk about training because that's an important part of the
• 43:30
  vice president's position, is the training and and retention
• 43:34
  of of carriers. Definitely.
• 43:39
  I mean and that's what you know, I kind of you know because I I
• 43:43
  talk about my postmaster once in a while and and you know there's
• 43:47
  a couple of us, she really just it.
• 43:51
  It's like she doesn't want fun and people to be happy and enjoy
• 43:54
  their time at work with each other type thing.
• 43:56
  It's you know one of those miserable situations and and
• 44:01
  you've got myself and my work husband and his case mate and
• 44:06
  then his case mate sub which is the kid and we all get along
• 44:11
  great. We can all joke and laugh and
• 44:13
  have a good time when we're all in the office together and my
• 44:16
  new sub's going to fit perfectly in with that with with with
• 44:22
  sense of humor. And it it it it it's just it's
• 44:27
  going to be great. We're going to drive her crazy
• 44:31
  because you know, Locomotion will come up on the radio and
• 44:33
  we'll all just get in that Congo line and do locomotion around
• 44:36
  the office when we're waiting on partials to be thrown.
• 44:42
  So. Why can't you royal carriers
• 44:44
  just behave yourself and quit causing trouble for the
• 44:47
  postmaster? And you have a narcissistic,
• 44:53
  bipolar postmaster. You got to have fun with her.
• 44:56
  All right, guys, I'm. I'm off my box now.
• 45:02
  Well, with what Josh just said, you know the biggest thing that
• 45:06
  carrier should know is exactly who their designated union
• 45:10
  representative is. The the stewards should be
• 45:14
  getting out and going into these offices and meeting these new
• 45:17
  carriers. They should be getting involved
• 45:20
  with these carriers, getting up there and personal with them,
• 45:24
  giving them their business card, especially for area stewards
• 45:28
  ADRSDRS. The people that are supposed to
• 45:31
  be the face of this craft, in the face of this union and
• 45:36
  fighting tooth and nail for every carrier should be out
• 45:40
  there taking the time to meet the new people and telling them
• 45:44
  if you have questions, give me a call, things like that.
• 45:47
  And when they call them, they should be responding to them as
• 45:51
  efficiently as possible. And then when a carrier files a
• 45:55
  grievance, they should be fighting for every inch they can
• 45:59
  give that carrier and not settling for language of
• 46:04
  language that already exists with terms like will comply,
• 46:08
  will follow, will adhere to things like that.
• 46:12
  They should be fighting tooth and nail for these carriers and
• 46:15
  they should have somebody at the top who's fighting just as hard
• 46:19
  as they are at the bottom. Because the only way that we can
• 46:24
  make sure that every single carrier here is educated is to
• 46:28
  have training that gets them where they need to be and
• 46:33
  stewards who will back them up. Academy instructors, I have a
• 46:40
  question for my Academy instructors out there.
• 46:42
  As you know, I am stepping up to run for Vice President again and
• 46:48
  I know this kind of came across to me when I ran two years ago
• 46:51
  as well. When it came to Academy and
• 46:53
  updating if y'all could reach out, whether that be an e-mail
• 46:58
  direct message either to myself or the podcast page on what type
• 47:06
  of things that you would like to see improved in the Academy.
• 47:10
  The you know what what type of new materials, what type of new
• 47:14
  program, something that you would like to see that would be
• 47:17
  instituted in the academies across the board that would help
• 47:21
  with the training and the retention of these new Rcas.
• 47:31
  I you know, I'm going to ask on that.
• 47:33
  I mean, seriously, I want to know.
• 47:38
  Especially for those of us that are OJIS, we're trying to wonder
• 47:41
  where these kids are starting at.
• 47:43
  Do they? How much do they know of the
• 47:45
  RRECS scans? How much do they know of the job
• 47:48
  and everything else that goes with the job?
• 47:53
  And I agree, as you know, as the OJ, you know as the Oji in the
• 47:57
  office. I completely agree with that.
• 48:00
  You know, I want to know exactly what they're being taught.
• 48:02
  Like I said, I'm lucky enough to know who the instructor is for
• 48:05
  my new RCA next week, but that doesn't mean, you know, I don't
• 48:10
  know what the curriculum is that they have out there now, you
• 48:14
  know, and where, where, what. They need to fill in the gaps of
• 48:20
  the stuff that we do. I mean, I know Academy is
• 48:24
  probably not anything like it was when I went to Academy 9 1/2
• 48:28
  years ago. Well, a little over nine years
• 48:30
  ago. And and that's the first place
• 48:34
  that we can start educating the new carriers in in regards to
• 48:39
  the contract rec, you know their rights, the responsibilities and
• 48:44
  that's an important you know function for the Academy
• 48:46
  instructors to make sure that these people have access to that
• 48:50
  information I. Agree, it's one. 100% It's
• 48:54
  critical. It's critical.
• 48:58
  It is and especially with Rex and and that's the biggest thing
• 49:02
  is these Rex scans when you've got management that was, you
• 49:05
  know, when this first came out and it's only the six scans.
• 49:08
  And then you know I was lucky enough that I was able to train
• 49:12
  my carriers or present to my carriers the additional stuff
• 49:17
  and I still answer questions in my office on the additional
• 49:21
  scans to carriers when they ask because they may be unsure.
• 49:24
  It usually has to do with box holders or walking sequence or
• 49:27
  something of that nature. But you know, I I do I, you
• 49:32
  know, reminded another carrier mind make sure when you shut
• 49:35
  your vehicle off is when you hit return to unit because you don't
• 49:39
  do it when you do it in the office.
• 49:40
  Only because I was in the office when he came in the one day and
• 49:43
  I noticed that's when he hit return to DU.
• 49:45
  And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, You're cheating yourself out
• 49:48
  of some time there, dude. Yep.
• 49:51
  You know before you, before you get out of the truck, before you
• 49:54
  take the mail to dispatch you, you hit the return to DU.
• 50:00
  All the time that it takes to unload your vehicle.
• 50:02
  At the end of the day, all your outgoing mail, All your trays
• 50:06
  and buckets, all of that is under return to docking unit and
• 50:11
  before clocking out. And you know for the new RC and
• 50:18
  and even some of the the established carriers, there is a
• 50:21
  whole list of end of shift duties on there that you know is
• 50:26
  available off the website for you to have at your case.
• 50:29
  So whenever questions or challenge, you can give it to
• 50:33
  the supervisor, the postmaster, whoever and show them.
• 50:36
  These are duties that you are required to perform at the end
• 50:40
  of your regular duties delivering the route.
• 50:45
  Yeah, you hit that button as soon as you beat the vehicle and
• 50:47
  park. Yep, and before you add the and
• 50:51
  you do all that before you do anything for PM casing or
• 50:54
  clocking out. One thing we're lucky is we the
• 51:00
  only PM casing. We the only time we use that PM
• 51:03
  casing in my office is for second trips when needed because
• 51:07
  everything that comes in that day goes out that day and we
• 51:10
  don't get an afternoon truck with any drop offs.
• 51:13
  And I can probably count on one hand how many times we've been
• 51:17
  allowed to curtail mail in that office in the in the five years
• 51:21
  I've been there. So, but yeah, it's.
• 51:25
  Unfortunately in Westchester we have a curtailment based on
• 51:31
  let's say certain factors. You know, so we we have, you
• 51:36
  know, people that are allowed to and others that aren't.
• 51:39
  And the ones that aren't allowed don't file grievances.
• 51:43
  And I just told them, well, that's on you because you have
• 51:46
  the right to say this is disparity of treatment.
• 51:50
  We used to be able to case our Advos the day before, but they
• 51:54
  stopped that about two years ago after COVID.
• 51:58
  Yeah, seeing our Advos have, even though they say deliver for
• 52:01
  the day on Tuesday, they've been coming in on Saturdays.
• 52:04
  They come in on Saturday, they go out on Saturday.
• 52:08
  Whether or not we deliver them all is up to us.
• 52:10
  If we want to split them half CS, I'm sorry, my Advos are
• 52:12
  coming in Saturday, They're going to go out on Saturday
• 52:15
  because I do not want to have to deal with them on Monday.
• 52:19
  However, with a brand new RCA coming in in an ADVO show up on
• 52:24
  Saturdays as they have been, I will let management know he does
• 52:29
  not have to take them if he doesn't want to because I don't
• 52:32
  want to lose him. If he, if you know, take him for
• 52:37
  a ride and bring him back, I will then do them on Monday.
• 52:40
  He ain't going to get that free pass for only maybe a couple
• 52:43
  months. But after that, you know that I,
• 52:47
  you know I'm not going to have a brand new RCA that's only been
• 52:51
  out of Academy and in training and only been out for, you know,
• 52:57
  on his own for a week, maybe two weeks tops.
• 53:01
  Getting stuck to having to do Advos on Saturday.
• 53:04
  I don't want to do that to him. I wouldn't now if he's all gung
• 53:08
  ho and thinks he can do it because mine have been coming
• 53:10
  address. We had one route yesterday.
• 53:13
  There's where we had two routes that were not addressed.
• 53:16
  Yesterday mine were addressed and even my businesses have
• 53:20
  started to get them before again.
• 53:22
  And in the past my businesses weren't getting them, it was
• 53:24
  just residential. So yeah, I'm not going to do
• 53:29
  that to a brand new RCA now. Do you?
• 53:31
  When you're not addressed, do you get a separate card?
• 53:34
  No. Wow.
• 53:37
  Lucky. The only ones that have gotten
• 53:40
  separate cards in the past, and it was not even an all the time
• 53:45
  thing was the City side rural never got the separate cards.
• 53:48
  Now in my old office, yes we got the separate cards, but in this
• 53:53
  office, no, we've never gotten the separate cards.
• 53:56
  And yeah. I think in all my years the red
• 54:02
  plums came once unaddressed without a card, and then I've
• 54:06
  had where they were addressed with a card that really sucked.
• 54:13
  No, with halfsies, if you don't deliver them all because it's
• 54:16
  putting you behind or you want to bring them up, you only get
• 54:18
  the the full coverage once. You don't get the scan just two
• 54:21
  days in a row just once. That's the only downfall to
• 54:24
  that. But again, you're not delivering
• 54:31
  them all unless you have another full coverage the next day.
• 54:35
  Don't get me started on when I was in RCA who borrowed RCA, had
• 54:40
  a full coverage, only delivered half, came in the next day, had
• 54:44
  another full coverage on top of the half of full coverage and
• 54:48
  only delivered finished up. The other one only delivered
• 54:51
  half. And then I walk in with advos
• 54:54
  and other half of full coverage the next day to do.
• 54:57
  Don't get me started on that. So yeah, I I think if you have a
• 55:03
  full coverage, you do you, you do it that day.
• 55:05
  I mean, there are instances where if you are too far behind,
• 55:08
  you need and it's going to be too late putting you out because
• 55:11
  it's just one of those days that, yeah, you know, finish
• 55:14
  them up the next day, but I don't like doing that if I can't
• 55:18
  help it. Well, I just want to let
• 55:23
  everybody know if you haven't seen it, it's on the RCA
• 55:28
  Facebook page and Rural Carriers Facebook page that I put the
• 55:33
  announcement in in regards to running for president and have
• 55:38
  gotten quite a bit of hits on on the one and support off my own
• 55:44
  Facebook page too. And I just want to let people
• 55:48
  know that I'm not doing this for myself because of the fact that,
• 55:54
  you know, I'm I've more than qualified for retirement.
• 55:57
  I've got the money put away. I'm doing this because I go in
• 56:02
  on Monday and I hate the thought of going in the office and as
• 56:06
  soon as you get on my route, my mood changes.
• 56:09
  And I'm a happy person again because I love delivering my
• 56:14
  mail, even in bad weather and everything.
• 56:16
  I love seeing my people, I love seeing the customers, the kids,
• 56:19
  the dogs and all that. And I love the craft.
• 56:24
  I I love the people who go out there and go through the grind
• 56:29
  every day, weather, conditions, management, whatever.
• 56:34
  And I'm running for president because I want these people to
• 56:39
  be able to go to work free from hostile work environment, free
• 56:43
  from intimidation. They have the dignity and
• 56:47
  respect of the job that they're performing every day.
• 56:49
  While people are sitting on their ass and making decisions
• 56:52
  in regards to their careers and their livelihood, I do not want
• 56:59
  another carrier to ever suffer. Some of the the horror stories
• 57:06
  that I've seen on social media I I do not want to see a carrier
• 57:11
  ever suffer an EP like one of mine did and I got his job back
• 57:16
  for him but then have ADR turn around and say we got his job
• 57:21
  back but he can't have any back pay for 4 1/2 months as a
• 57:25
  grandparent, As a parent I always hated these words.
• 57:31
  Some assembly required batteries not included as a carrier with a
• 57:37
  grievance. The words I hate are settled for
• 57:42
  language. When we install a new director
• 57:46
  of steward operation I do not ever want to see a grievance
• 57:52
  that says settled for language. The only language I want to hear
• 57:57
  is the carrier will be compensated period.
• 58:04
  If we are going to work in this environment with these
• 58:09
  incompetent management with these hostile Dr. district
• 58:14
  managers or OICSPMSI want them to pay.
• 58:21
  So as present, I don't ever want to see that language on a
• 58:26
  grievance. That is the language of the last
• 58:28
  resort. And hopefully James, as director
• 58:37
  Robert Stewart Operations, will never, ever write that language
• 58:41
  into a grievance at a step three or Step 4.
• 58:46
  The only way I want to settle for language is if there is
• 58:50
  absolutely zero existing language that that grievance is
• 58:56
  being fought over because we have language going back over
• 59:02
  100 years and we're turning around and settling for a slap
• 59:08
  on the hand of management. I don't think so.
• 59:11
  Management's had enough slaps on the hands, management had enough
• 59:14
  finger wagging from leadership. It's time to put our boot down
• 59:18
  and say we've got this language. You failed to follow this
• 59:22
  language. Now it's time to pay the rural
• 59:25
  carriers for you. Failing to follow that language
• 59:29
  enough's enough. We've been soft handed on them
• 59:33
  and I've heard articles and read articles all the way back into
• 59:37
  the 70s where the exact same language was used by management.
• 59:44
  And yet we're still turning around and you and playing with
• 59:47
  them with kids gloves, playing touch football with them?
• 59:52
  I don't think so. We are adults.
• 59:55
  Our carriers are adults. Management is a whole group of
• 59:59
  adults, and you can argue some of them don't act like it, but
• 1:00:05
  it's time to be adults and time for us to settle it like adults.
• 1:00:11
  And if you made a mistake, pay up for it.
• 1:00:18
  Toasty, what is your take on what these two gentlemen just
• 1:00:22
  said? I'm right with Bill.
• 1:00:25
  I love the job. The job itself I enjoy doing
• 1:00:30
  every day. I could do it all the way
• 1:00:32
  through retirement age if I needed to.
• 1:00:36
  I absolutely love the people I work with.
• 1:00:38
  I love my customers. I love most of my dogs as long
• 1:00:41
  as they're not aggressive with me, and I want that for
• 1:00:47
  everyone. I want that for all our RCASI
• 1:00:50
  want that for our PTFSI want that for our arcs.
• 1:00:52
  I want everyone to come in, be able to do their job, do it with
• 1:00:56
  pride and integrity, and not be bothered by management,
• 1:00:59
  micromanaging and sitting behind a desk reading reports.
• 1:01:03
  Right now, our current board is just reading reports, just like
• 1:01:07
  management. We know the numbers are down.
• 1:01:09
  We know this, we know that because they're looking at
• 1:01:12
  spreadsheets just like management.
• 1:01:14
  It's time that we start putting people in office that will
• 1:01:19
  actually that actually know the experience, have experienced
• 1:01:22
  COVID, have experienced the boost in e-commerce that we've
• 1:01:26
  gotten since then that have experienced R Rex And my job as
• 1:01:31
  committee person, should I get it is to back up Bill and to do
• 1:01:36
  everything that he sends down to me.
• 1:01:38
  And I will do that. I will do that with an honesty
• 1:01:40
  and integrity and to the utmost ability that I have.
• 1:01:48
  Heard that right. You are considering running for
• 1:01:52
  Executive Committeeman of the National Board.
• 1:01:54
  Correct. Yay.
• 1:01:58
  Let's go toasty. I'll post something like Bill
• 1:02:04
  did on all the groups too, to go ahead and let people know that
• 1:02:06
  we're here, we're ready for this change, we're ready to step up.
• 1:02:10
  I I honestly don't want to step away from my route because it is
• 1:02:14
  a four year commitment, but like I've heard James say before, the
• 1:02:19
  needs of the craft or greater than my own.
• 1:02:25
  And that's that. That's my perfect sentiment.
• 1:02:27
  But you know, I I have nothing to gain, you know, in regards to
• 1:02:34
  working OK, financially OK. The satisfaction I get all the
• 1:02:39
  time and and unfortunately I I don't have a great office, but
• 1:02:43
  you know it, it functions OK in regards to relationship with
• 1:02:48
  other carriers. But that was one of the things
• 1:02:50
  that being a steward twice in my office I've learned that you
• 1:02:58
  have to disassociate your personal likes, dislikes for the
• 1:03:02
  people that you're representing. I want a gentleman, a $950
• 1:03:07
  settlement and it took nine months in the making to get it.
• 1:03:11
  When he got the payment and it said on their grievous payment
• 1:03:15
  included, he came over to me and asked me what it was from and I
• 1:03:19
  said it was from nine months ago, he says.
• 1:03:21
  Well, I forgot about that and I says I don't ever forget.
• 1:03:25
  And I pushed and I pushed and I pushed and I worked the local
• 1:03:28
  postmaster to the point where he finally just said, OK, Bill, I'm
• 1:03:33
  tired of fighting with you. He says if you have too much
• 1:03:36
  going on this argument, you know, for me to contest, I'm
• 1:03:39
  just paying it. And I says, here's a settlement
• 1:03:41
  form, He signed the settlement form and the guy got paid the
• 1:03:44
  next pay period. I don't personally like the
• 1:03:49
  person, but it didn't matter because he's one of my fellow
• 1:03:53
  members. He's a brother in the union.
• 1:03:56
  He's a brother in the craft. If he wasn't in the union, I'd
• 1:04:00
  still fight for him the same way because that's how much
• 1:04:03
  commitment I have into making sure that we are treated with
• 1:04:07
  justice, respect and equally as grown adults.
• 1:04:11
  Like, like you said, we're all adults.
• 1:04:14
  Don't come over and try to belittle us.
• 1:04:16
  Don't try to come over and intimidate us.
• 1:04:19
  I had a supervisor used to come over and and be little people.
• 1:04:23
  One day she tried it on me and I turned around and I said, I'm
• 1:04:26
  not your kid, Don't you ever talk to me like that again.
• 1:04:32
  And she just stood there and got flushed.
• 1:04:35
  And I said, now when you know how to talk to an adult, you
• 1:04:38
  come back to me. I said.
• 1:04:39
  Otherwise I will file for stress.
• 1:04:42
  I will call EAPI, walk out of this office in 5 minutes, and
• 1:04:46
  you'll see me in 2 weeks when I feel that you've learned your
• 1:04:49
  lesson. She didn't bother me for two
• 1:04:54
  weeks, but she never talked to me like that again either.
• 1:05:00
  If you don't stand up for yourself, and and more
• 1:05:04
  importantly, if you don't stand up for others, your office will
• 1:05:08
  never get better. It will never improve.
• 1:05:10
  The environment will never improve.
• 1:05:13
  And that's what we want. We want to be able to come in,
• 1:05:17
  get us our mail, get us our flats, get us our parcel, get us
• 1:05:20
  our accountables. You have certain things that
• 1:05:23
  you're responsible to do. All you have to do is get the
• 1:05:26
  material to us. We'll work it, take it out and
• 1:05:29
  deliver it. It's that simple.
• 1:05:32
  There is no need to come over and flex your management muscle
• 1:05:36
  to exert your authority over us. What management doesn't realize
• 1:05:42
  is that they may have authority over us, but they have a greater
• 1:05:46
  responsibility to us. And that's what they need to be
• 1:05:53
  reminded of. You know, these step fours have
• 1:05:55
  been sitting on the table for years.
• 1:05:58
  I'm sorry, James. You're going to take every one
• 1:06:01
  of them and you're going to put them to bed ASAP.
• 1:06:06
  Because enough of the bullshit, the haranguing, the delays for
• 1:06:13
  something as simple as you violated the contract.
• 1:06:17
  We need to be remedied. There's no reason for one to be
• 1:06:22
  sitting there for six years and there is no argument that
• 1:06:26
  leadership can make as to why it's been sitting there for six
• 1:06:30
  years, 2018. I know of a step four that's
• 1:06:34
  been sitting since 2018. That is not right now.
• 1:06:39
  Leadership can turn around and say we've been fighting the step
• 1:06:42
  fours and so on and so forth, but just as many are coming in
• 1:06:45
  as the ones we're resolving, that's an excuse.
• 1:06:51
  If you're wanting to fight for these step fours, you need to be
• 1:06:53
  stepping up fighting them or moving them to arbitration,
• 1:06:58
  because otherwise they're just going to sit in limbo and
• 1:07:01
  carriers are going to wonder, are you even doing your job?
• 1:07:05
  And as Director of Stewart Operations, James, I also want
• 1:07:09
  you to get rid of the language of the settled grievances,
• 1:07:13
  saying this settlement will not be used in future settlement as
• 1:07:19
  a precedent. It isn't.
• 1:07:22
  Once you once you've established that settlement, that sets a
• 1:07:25
  precedent for anything following.
• 1:07:28
  Yeah, non binding settlement, yeah.
• 1:07:31
  Yeah. That is the biggest line of
• 1:07:33
  horseshit that management hides behind.
• 1:07:36
  And frankly, I've turned around and used the articles and
• 1:07:40
  arguments for previous grievances for my own because
• 1:07:45
  guess what? Nobody.
• 1:07:46
  Management will go back and read the ones I pulled them from to
• 1:07:49
  find out that you're not supposed to be using them.
• 1:07:54
  But that's OK. I'll take advantage of
• 1:07:56
  management's ignorance and I have quite often.
• 1:08:01
  Yeah it should. Any any grievance that is made
• 1:08:05
  is a binding contract. Unless somebody turns around and
• 1:08:12
  writes in there, it's a non binding contract.
• 1:08:16
  So whoever it is that settles them for non binding language is
• 1:08:22
  incompetent in and grievance arguing because once you and
• 1:08:27
  management sign it, it becomes a legally binding document between
• 1:08:32
  the steward and management. So if you're not willing to make
• 1:08:38
  it binding so others can use it, what are you really fighting
• 1:08:41
  for? You're you're giving management
• 1:08:43
  a, a, a, you know, a a watch, you know.
• 1:08:45
  Yeah. You know, I mean it's it's the
• 1:08:49
  settling for language. I yeah, I don't know.
• 1:08:53
  I mean, at least put in a cease and desist rather than just a
• 1:08:59
  settling for language because now they're like, oh, well, I
• 1:09:03
  got away with this time. I'm going to be able to get away
• 1:09:05
  with it next time. I mean, at least at the bare
• 1:09:08
  minimum, you started a paper trail on settling for language,
• 1:09:12
  which I have to agree is just there's a contract.
• 1:09:16
  You're you're intentionally violating the contract.
• 1:09:20
  Oh, well, yeah, the language is in there.
• 1:09:22
  So just don't do it anymore. How is that you're fixing
• 1:09:26
  anything? You're violating already set
• 1:09:30
  language, and then you turn around and settle for language
• 1:09:35
  for language that already exists.
• 1:09:36
  That is the biggest mistake any person can make is settling for
• 1:09:40
  language because it's a complete slap on the wrist and telling
• 1:09:46
  management it's OK don't do it again.
• 1:09:49
  And see, you know, for everybody listening and anybody who will
• 1:09:53
  be listening to this podcast, if you listen to the interaction
• 1:09:57
  that we have and our response to the, you know, live stage
• 1:10:01
  comments and the DMS, the emails that we get, This is not just
• 1:10:05
  about electing us to the National Board, This is about
• 1:10:09
  electing yourselves to the National Board because we will
• 1:10:12
  be available to listen to you. We will act on your concern.
• 1:10:17
  It's not a matter of nine people up there.
• 1:10:19
  They're the ones responsible for enacting an indoctrinating
• 1:10:24
  policy that affects over 100,000 lives.
• 1:10:28
  And then the people who are in those people's lives, the
• 1:10:31
  families, you know, the children, the grandparents that
• 1:10:35
  are living with them, whoever it's in fact it's affecting
• 1:10:40
  approximately what, 300, four, 100,000 people in regards to
• 1:10:45
  what our union does for us. So they're therefore we're we're
• 1:10:51
  not we're we're not going to be a gang of nine up there acting
• 1:10:55
  on our own interests. We're we're going to be there
• 1:10:57
  safeguarding your interests, your education, your paycheck.
• 1:11:01
  But we need your help too. We need to know the areas of
• 1:11:05
  concern that need to be addressed in which part of the
• 1:11:07
  country at which little post office, which large parts of the
• 1:11:10
  post office. And that's what we're going to
• 1:11:14
  do. We will be available.
• 1:11:16
  We will not be abstract leaders. We will be your representatives.
• 1:11:23
  And that's what being elected to the national board is to
• 1:11:26
  represent you, not ourselves. And as Jared just said,
• 1:11:32
  transparency. If if we can't have transparency
• 1:11:36
  of our own national board and we don't, how can we expect it from
• 1:11:40
  the post office? I agree completely with that and
• 1:11:44
  on top of that not only are we running for national board,
• 1:11:48
  we're also turning around and we are writing our own binding and
• 1:11:53
  non binding resolutions for our next National Convention.
• 1:11:59
  We're looking forward to changing things not only as
• 1:12:03
  leadership, but also just as members of the craft.
• 1:12:07
  Just as you can file your finding and non binding
• 1:12:10
  resolutions. We're not stopping trying to fix
• 1:12:14
  things just to run for office, we're still trying to fix them
• 1:12:18
  while running for office, and we're asking you guys to do the
• 1:12:22
  same. Do the same thing.
• 1:12:23
  Get the resolutions in there, run for delegate, vote for
• 1:12:27
  delegates, Get involved in your union.
• 1:12:30
  Find out who your designated union Rep is.
• 1:12:33
  If you feel the need to run to be your local union steward in
• 1:12:37
  your office, and it doesn't matter if you have one carrier
• 1:12:40
  in your office or you have 1000 carriers in your office or
• 1:12:44
  you're part of one of those new S&D CS.
• 1:12:47
  If there's a need in your craft in that office, help it out.
• 1:12:53
  Because we are the rural carrier union this craft.
• 1:12:58
  We are our brothers and sisters keepers and we need to take care
• 1:13:02
  of each other. Absolutely, guys.
• 1:13:05
  And I know we've all been on our soapboxes tonight, but I think
• 1:13:08
  we're going to start winding it down.
• 1:13:10
  Well, I'm pretty much in agreement with a lot of the
• 1:13:13
  recent comments now coming through that I'm.
• 1:13:16
  I'm not impressed with what our union has done so far.
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  There there's been no communication, there's been no
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  transparency. They said that they were going
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  to start updating us with these new YouTube videos and they've
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  posted all of two, and the last one was right around Christmas
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  time. We're not getting a lot of
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  information from our own union and of course we're not going to
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  get information from the post office because it would not
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  benefit them. It would benefit us to actually
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  have the information we need to get something out there to go
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  ahead and educate our current or our Co workers here and our
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  brothers and sisters in this union.
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  That's why Y'all started this podcast, that's why Roll
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  info.net started their website because our union wants to put
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  it behind a paywall. We shouldn't do that.
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  We should create value so that people want to join the union
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  and not get out of it like they're currently doing.
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  I love the craft, I love the job.
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  I love everything about it. But we do need a better union,
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  and I think we can make it on our own.
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  We have to step up, We have to vote in the right people.
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  We have to go to our conventions and get these resolutions passed
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  of what we want to see changed. We have to step up, all of us.
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  Absolutely agree with you on that, Josh, your final thoughts
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  tonight. Be safe this coming week.
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  Don't get yourself overwhelmed. If you do.
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  Take a step back. Take a deep breath.
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  Step back in. Have a good week.
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  See you next time. James.
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  Well, anybody can talk a big game.
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  Anybody can make things look good just to get themselves
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  elected. But not a lot of people will
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  stand in front of people and say, point out my flaws and tell
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  me about them. Let me know the mistakes I'm
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  making, because the only way you grow is you learn from your
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  mistakes. People make mistakes.
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  We're only human. But at the end of the day, it's
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  about the fight in that person to make things right, to make
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  things better, to help and to solve issues that people have.
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  Because no matter what happens, no matter where things go, at
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  the end of the day, we're all in this together, Bill.
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  Well I was thinking that in of the packet I received from our
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  state No Thursday and it's the biannual statement in regards to
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  you know our dues check that we give from the state membership
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  the the the amount of dues and everything else.
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  The resolution forms that we hand out at our meetings and I
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  and I looked at the check and it it was for oh 1800 and some
• 1:16:12
  dollars which was up over the $1700.
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  The the range that I've been getting for the last you know
• 1:16:19
  three payments and I looked at the the dues payment page and I
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  says Oh my God we lost more members.
• 1:16:27
  Well how did I get a bigger check.
• 1:16:28
  Well because dues went up and and that's that's the the
• 1:16:34
  problem with this union is that we're losing members and we're
• 1:16:39
  putting the financial burden on on the rest of the craft that
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  are our union paying dues members and and it's just
• 1:16:46
  sitting here and I'm going to like you, OK we're going to make
• 1:16:49
  more money by charging more people or less people more money
• 1:16:54
  for their dues. It's like paying for you know
• 1:16:56
  more taxes for people who are in coming in this country not
• 1:16:59
  paying any taxes. It just doesn't seem fair,
• 1:17:02
  doesn't seem right and and I can understand certain reasons why
• 1:17:08
  people don't want to join the union.
• 1:17:11
  I would like to take this opportunity and encourage people
• 1:17:14
  to join the union because then you have a voice and like I
• 1:17:21
  often have said to Carolyn in our office about politics and
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  she, oh, I don't care about this.
• 1:17:28
  I don't care about that. And then, you know, we get the
• 1:17:32
  political mail and she screams bloody murder about it.
• 1:17:35
  And I said, well, but you don't care about, you know, the
• 1:17:38
  election. And she goes, you're right and
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  says I haven't voted in like 20 years.
• 1:17:43
  And I said that's the problem. The apathy.
• 1:17:48
  Apathy solves nothing. Involvement does.
• 1:17:53
  Having a voice, using that voice, stepping up to the plate
• 1:17:58
  and saying the king is naked. If you don't bring your voice to
• 1:18:05
  the battle, if you're not in the union, you have no voice.
• 1:18:11
  You can rant and rave all you want on social media.
• 1:18:14
  It won't solve anything. If you want something done, join
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  union. Get involved, Make the effort.
• 1:18:24
  If your paycheck, your livelihood, your future is not
• 1:18:29
  worth that, then you know that's on you and and and I understand
• 1:18:36
  some people have reached the level of apathy where you can't
• 1:18:40
  bring them back. But for those who are
• 1:18:42
  questioning the value of being in the union, it is better to
• 1:18:46
  have a say than to have others speak for you because they may
• 1:18:53
  not be speaking. Your voice, your concerns, the
• 1:18:57
  issues that you want to address, if you want them address, you
• 1:19:02
  have to be able to speak. If you want to be able to speak,
• 1:19:05
  you must be in the union. I I hate to be a union organizer
• 1:19:11
  here per Southeast, but the fact of the matter is that's the only
• 1:19:15
  way you're going to institute change.
• 1:19:19
  With that, everybody go. Have a good week.
• 1:19:22
  Hope the weather's kinder to you this week coming up than it has
• 1:19:27
  been in the past couple. Everybody be safe.
• 1:19:30
  Do your job well. Do it efficiently,
• 1:19:32
  professionally. Get home safe.
• 1:19:35
  You're in the most important delivery of the day.
• 1:19:38
  Get home to your loved ones. Thank you guys.
• 1:19:41
  Wow, I don't even know how to follow up with all that tonight.
• 1:19:47
  It has definitely been a mixed bag tonight, that's for sure.
• 1:19:50
  I again, everybody stay safe. I can't disagree with a single
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  thing that any one of these gentlemen has said tonight.
• 1:19:58
  It's it's really touching and I know they are all speaking from
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  the hearts and it's just as much as they do.
• 1:20:06
  You know I. I I love my job.
• 1:20:09
  I I love my route. I love my people.
• 1:20:11
  I love my dogs. I love the service I provide to
• 1:20:13
  my customers. I don't like the way that
• 1:20:17
  management treats us. You know, I I'm in this fight
• 1:20:20
  not just for my office not just for myself but every single one
• 1:20:23
  of you guys out there. Every single one of you in the
• 1:20:26
  craft and you know I, I've pretty much have dedicated my
• 1:20:31
  last few years several years to being more involved and I was
• 1:20:37
  really, I mean after I made the now I have a big kind of
• 1:20:40
  announcement to follow up with here guys since the cat's out of
• 1:20:43
  the bag with the family. So if I after I made the
• 1:20:47
  announcement New Year's that I was going to run for office.
• 1:20:51
  I then had a big a big announcement at home that came
• 1:20:56
  about that really made me think I may not even go to National at
• 1:20:59
  all this year. But I was told that I need to go
• 1:21:05
  and I should go even though I will be a grandmother either
• 1:21:11
  just before just after or possibly during National
• 1:21:15
  Convention. So cats all the bag with the
• 1:21:18
  family so I can put it out there.
• 1:21:19
  But I my daughter told me mom you need to go.
• 1:21:23
  That's where you need to be and we'll be OK at home.
• 1:21:27
  So that's my big announcement at the end and.
• 1:21:34
  Congratulations. Thank you.
• 1:21:36
  So wasn't expected. It's still, but I, like I said
• 1:21:43
  with further talk with the rest of the family And as of right
• 1:21:46
  now, a tentative 2 due date is literally the day before
• 1:21:49
  National Convention starts. I Have you picked?
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  Have you picked? Have you picked your grandma's
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  nickname yet? No.
• 1:21:58
  No, not yet. No.
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  But I you know, I talked to her more.
• 1:22:04
  I said I won't go. I mean, I'll be.
• 1:22:05
  Here she goes. No, Mom.
• 1:22:07
  She goes. You.
• 1:22:08
  She goes. If I was, if the roles were
• 1:22:10
  reversed, she goes. I would want to go.
• 1:22:12
  She goes, You need to go. She goes.
• 1:22:14
  That's where you need to be. This is what you need to do.
• 1:22:18
  You need to go. So yes, I am.
• 1:22:21
  I'm not canceling. I had thought about it,
• 1:22:25
  seriously, had thought about it. So as of right now, no, I am not
• 1:22:28
  canceling. I am still planning on going and
• 1:22:31
  I'm still planning on running. So I just wanted to put that out
• 1:22:36
  there to everybody. That's kind of been the secret
• 1:22:40
  I've been trying to figure out and had to let the rest of the
• 1:22:43
  family members know, as we all know, the drama with my
• 1:22:46
  daughter. So.
• 1:22:49
  But again, like I said, I love my job, I love my craft.
• 1:22:51
  I love, you know, I the National Board is not a retirement plan
• 1:22:56
  for me. I want to retire from my route,
• 1:23:00
  but I want to be able to assist every single carrier before I
• 1:23:04
  get to that point where I'm ready to retire.
• 1:23:06
  I want to be able to stand up for every single buddy.
• 1:23:09
  I want to be able to implement ways of better training our RC
• 1:23:12
  as not just Academy, but at the end the office training as well.
• 1:23:17
  It, you know, throwing them to the wolves after three days,
• 1:23:20
  even though you know, yes, we have the contractual language
• 1:23:23
  now of two full pay periods on their primary route, you know
• 1:23:28
  that that's great. It's a starting point.
• 1:23:30
  But still, even after those two full pay periods, for some
• 1:23:33
  carriers that may only be four days, that may only be two days
• 1:23:37
  depending if they're on the J route.
• 1:23:39
  That doesn't mean that they're ready to be thrown to the wolves
• 1:23:41
  and thrown on another route or sent to another office
• 1:23:45
  completely, not even knowing fully what they are to do yet.
• 1:23:49
  And to me, I think we need more. And it's not necessarily the
• 1:23:52
  hand holding, but I think it's just as I've said it before and
• 1:23:56
  I actually said a couple years ago, you know, more of a
• 1:23:58
  mentorship, you know, seeing like I'm doing tomorrow morning
• 1:24:01
  with my RCA. You know, he's been in there for
• 1:24:04
  going out a couple months. He started just around his
• 1:24:06
  Christmas, was starting to pick, you know, gear up.
• 1:24:09
  I want to see where he's at, You know, I want to find out where
• 1:24:12
  he's at, what he still needs to learn, where he still needs to
• 1:24:15
  go to make him better. He he really enjoys the job.
• 1:24:18
  He loves the job. He likes the aspects of it.
• 1:24:21
  But how else can we get him to that level where he, you know,
• 1:24:24
  he should be and work to progress to that level, you
• 1:24:27
  know, and that's that's my goals are to find some sort of way to
• 1:24:31
  do that across the board, across the country for every RCA that
• 1:24:34
  walks in that door. So I'm at no people.
• 1:24:38
  I want everybody to have a good safe week out there and we will
• 1:24:43
  be back next week. Anyway, I can tell you where to
• 1:24:59
  put it, but you know that's not kosher.
• 1:25:03
  Yeah, I got to find something good for the like the back end,
• 1:25:06
  though. Man, I'm going to be a grandma.