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Public. Thank you for all you do and
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enjoy the show. Well, that soup look nasty, that
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suit looks nasty and it's like the fact that her dress and the
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super the same color. I was like, I'm very
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uncomfortable that made me extremely uncomfortable that her
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dress in the soup were the same color.
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I'm like, she's eating her clothes.
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I don't like this. Hello and welcome to the art of
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costume. Blogcast.
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I most enjoy glass and I'm Spencer Williams Elizabeth.
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What's up? What's up?
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Happy New Year guys. Happy New Year and happy season
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to have you season two. I can't believe we made it.
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I can't believe it either. I feel like I haven't talked to
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you in a long time or seen you like we talked all the time and
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then suddenly we were both just like, I'm going to bed for two
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weeks. Do not talk to me.
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Literally. I think I hibernated the first
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couple weeks. I like didn't see people, I
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didn't talk to people. I didn't do the work.
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I should have, I literally like I played stardew Valley.
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My watch stuff. That's all I did stardew Valley
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and I got really acquainted over the past break.
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However, long we've been off. I don't know how long we've been
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off. It feels like a year, but it's
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probably been like a month. It's been like two months
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actually. Oh gosh.
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All right, maybe just a month. Did we record Gucci?
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That was, I don't know. Oh, it was like Thanksgiving
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dish. I think it was like the first or
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second of December. So yeah, it's been like a month
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and a half. Yeah.
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That's a long time, very long. So, what did, what did you do
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during break besides hibernate and play stardew Valley, which
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is basically what I did that? I did that, that was very
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important. I went to Maine visited my
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sister. We stayed in a little lake
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house, which was lovely. I didn't go outside for like 72
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hours. It was great, goes to a lake
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house, doesn't go outside. There's no well because it's
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like it's very snowy up there. It's main right.
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They already have a bunch of snow and then it kept raining
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week like couldn't we did a puzzle which was nice.
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Oh, that's fun. That puzzles.
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Always nice. Kinda.
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It was a puzzle of like different landmarks around.
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The world and like all these little like different squares,
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The Sounds spicy and the picture on the box didn't show the
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entire it, you know, it usually shows what it's going to look
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like when it's done kind of, I mean, I haven't done a puzzle
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since I was like four. Yeah, it doesn't show that so
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you just were making it up. So it had some of it, but not
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all of it. So it was two days of confusion.
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For me and my sister and mother. Everyone knows you're supposed
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to start with the outside of the puzzle.
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And then you work your way from the outside in well, so the
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thing is because I'm a puzzle expert.
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Suddenly. Yeah.
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It was here that the toddler. You really just you played the
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game. No, so my sister had already
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started it and like I guess apparently, there are puzzle
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mats and you can like start a puzzle, roll it up and like
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transport it. It.
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Right, right. So, apparently, my sister is,
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what's I don't trust by the way. That just doesn't sound like
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gravity works that way. Exactly.
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So, listen to that. My sister's fiance didn't roll
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it up tight enough. Oh, so it was like, destroyed
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what she'd already worked on nice.
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We kept blaming him for our troubles, which was enjoyable.
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Well, next to me, come over. I have a Game of Thrones
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puzzled. I've never touched.
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Janet has like, the little Buildings are put on it and
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stuff. And then I have even better.
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I have a Jersey Shore puzzle from season 3 of Jersey Shore
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that I've been waiting for a good time to pull it out.
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So okay. You don't sound as excited about
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that one. I have not seen a single episode
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of Jersey Shore in my life. Oh my God.
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Come on. I wasn't allowed to watch it.
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Oh, yeah, that's true. There's a lot of stuff.
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I was not allowed to watch growing up.
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I watched everything growing up. That's Why I'm so messed up.
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It was like trashy TV was like a No-No.
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Lost was fine. That was okay but not
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Kardashians. Are Jersey Shore over break.
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I traveled to see my dad and stepmom and Iowa.
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That's right. How was that?
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I actually had so much fun. I didn't think I was going to
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enjoy it as much as I did because I'm like, what do you do
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in Iowa? Yeah, and they have a new house
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and spy, a huge Pond. We went kayaking.
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Acting like, you could go kayaking in his backyard, which
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is insane. There is bald eagles flying
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around. There was, we were driving ATVs
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around a property. I was reading a book.
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You were reading a book. Yeah.
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I mean, it's Dune, so it's not like, oh, I'm not reading
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something that philosophical, you know, but you like had time.
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Yeah, impressive. It's awesome.
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And I watched so much TV. So many movies.
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I did a lot of great life. Interviews, for example, I
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interviewed a costume designer named Edward.
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Who did The Lost daughter with Olivia Colman, right?
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That movie rocked. I did an interview of the
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costume designer from Lucifer Cowboy Bebop, which, you know,
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that's the Netflix show. That already got cancelled.
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But the first season was so freaking good and Netflix should
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be ashamed of themselves. I know, I don't understand it.
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I don't know. And I watched a lot of TV.
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We watched a couple shows that we're going to talk about.
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The podcasts and a few episodes. One up.
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One show in particular, you know, I'm talking about that was
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very long, but I ended up really liking it.
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Yeah, we should probably tell them to watch it soon so they
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could get started. But see, I just watched a lot of
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TV play. Love video games.
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I got the new Guardians of the Galaxy video game.
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I'm really my Marvel phase right now.
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After watching Spider-Man. I just all I think about is
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Marvel. Spiderman was so good.
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It was so Oh good. It's almost like when I talk
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about it, it makes me depressed because I loved it so much, but
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also it really hurt. All my feels like it did Andrew
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Garfield the whole time. I was like, oh, oh buddy.
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Also, if you haven't seen Spider-Man, this is your spoiler
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warning. Yeah, although I'm sure the
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internet has already spoiled that Tobey Maguire and Andrew
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Garfield are in it. Yeah, I went the night.
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Came out. It wasn't even nighttime yet.
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Like the sun was still up. He's like, let me in before I
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get spoiled. Now.
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We went Christmas Day. I ended up seeing three movies
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over Christmas weekend. Ooh, it was insane.
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It was so nice. I saw Encanto Spider-Man
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nightmare alley. I was like using that Regal
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Movie Pass. Yeah.
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That's the best. Yeah.
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I love. Go to the movies.
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I went and I saw The new Resident Evil movie.
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Which that movie slaps. By the way, I'm a big Resident
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Evil nerd and this movie was awesome.
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I haven't seen any of them. Yeah.
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I know. And we're going to have to do
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something about this. I know.
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I know I went and saw the eternals, which I love that
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movie a lot. I feel like I went and saw
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another movie, but I can't remember what it was.
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Now, maybe I keep thinking of House of Gucci, but you guys are
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not love that. So, anyways, yeah, it was a nice
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long. Break it was and now we're just
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jumping back into it. We are jumping right back into
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it. But we're also going back to the
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holidays a little bit Spencer. What are we watching?
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This? Totally could have been one of
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our holiday movies this week. We are watching Spencer not to
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be confused with me Spencer but Princess Diana Spencer.
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Oh this movie. I loved it.
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It was so good, you know. No, I mean, people are probably
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going to catch on to this, but I consider myself quite the royal
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family nerd and I believe you do too.
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I do, I do I obsessively watched a crown.
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So I think I know everything about the royal family, but
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everything I know is based on fiction is TV shows and movies,
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right? It's where I do everything and
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now, like I watch all the movies, I watched all the
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documentaries. It's probably not good, but it's
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what I'm here. Yeah, I just like, I don't know
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what it is. I feel like growing up.
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I couldn't understand why people were so, you know, always
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talking about the royal family when, you know, the wedding
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recently with Megan and Prince, William and all these things.
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Like, I didn't understand if people in my hometown staying up
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till like, 4:00 in the morning, to watch a wedding of some
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people. I've never heard of.
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I did that. And like I I grew up being mouth
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and just like now I get it. Now.
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I just am like once the next wedding.
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I want to stay up. I'm just really tapped to this
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family. I know and I'm just like, I
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can't wait to see where it goes. Is John Charles going to become
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king will his mother outlive him.
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Will it go straight to William? This is the drama.
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We're here for, right? I have a lot of thoughts and
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feelings and I don't want the head of state, but Is not our
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head of state, right? Well, you know, I'm definitely
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not a Charles Phan as I don't think Miss much of us are.
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Yeah, he is he such a complicated character but this
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movie was not about him. It was about Lady Diana.
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Spencer. What did you think it was?
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So, so so good. Originally, when I heard Kristen
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Stewart, was gonna do this. I immediately was like hard
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pass. I like there's No way and I
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could not have been more wrong. Like when I've saw that first
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trailer saw Kristen Stewart doing like the mannerisms of
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Princess Diana. Like of course Kristen Stewart
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was made for his character. She's no one else could have did
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her as well. Yeah, because it's Stewart in
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this movie. I think especially like Princess
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Diana in that might like trapped mindset.
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I think is why she did such a good job, but no I was the same
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as you. I was like, Why are you casting
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Kristen Stewart for this? I like I didn't understand and
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then I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, okay.
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She really rub it in their faces.
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Yeah. She did.
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I was like, I'm sorry. I judge you by Twilight too
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much. I know I will never doubt her
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again. She tore it up.
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She did a great job and she's probably definitely going to be
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nominated for best actress if she's not.
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I don't like I she should be. She has to yeah, it was so good.
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Good at like, I find things particularly about Princess
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Diana. As much as I love them.
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I kind of find it weird the way people like make this like
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commentary about her life when she's still in like living
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memory for, so many people who were in her personal life.
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I always find that kind of weird, but it didn't bother me
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in this movie because it was so fairytale.
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Like, you know what I mean, right?
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It was Fairy tale. And the I've just it's hard for
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me to understand people's Obsession because it's that
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obsession with her is what Connor killed in the first
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place. Yeah, so it's very sad at the
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same time. But I feel like the narratives
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kind of changing at this point where people are starting to
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understand why, you know, she was the way she was and all the
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terrible terrible things that were happening to her.
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So yeah, and I think just in this day and age, people are
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definitely understanding what she was going through now more
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than Never and I just feel like she has a lot more fans and
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support instead of the obsession of people who just trying to get
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photos and videos of her back in the day.
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So but I love this movie. It was really fairy tale.
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Like lots of fun. Very dramatic.
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Still kind of historically accurate, but not really, but
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we'll talk about that. Yeah, I mean, we really just
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need to get into a stew. You want to start us off with a
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summary? We do.
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I mean, I do, who's we? I'm talking in the third person.
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Now, you're not the queen. Spencer will do the summary now
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need help going twice. Okay, first summary of season 2.
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Here we go. In December 1991.
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The British royal family spent the Christmas holiday at the
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Queen's Sandringham estate in Norfolk.
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Diana. Princess of Wales is at the
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lowest point of her Troublesome relationship with her no-good
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husband. Prince Charles.
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That was my rated PG version of What I want to say, Elizabeth
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Prince Charles, who was openly cheating on her with Camilla
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parker-bowles. This is open knowledge people,
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so you can be mad at me if you want.
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But this is what happened. This is snorkel fiction Falls,
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Diana as she tries to survive, perhaps the most painfully
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awkward, family gathering to ever exist.
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And that's the summary of Spencer, if you don't want
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Spencer, spoilers, leave. Because we're going to talk
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about this movie way too much, but it already happened
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people's. Well, excellent summary.
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Spencer. I cannot wait to talk about the
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costumes. Let us go behind the Wardrobe.
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This stunning collection of costumes is brought To Us by
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director, Pablo Lorraine and costume designer Jack.
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Calendar in, you will know her from like one of a million
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things. The 2005 Pride and Prejudice
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with Keira, Knightley for which she was nominated for her first,
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Oscar atonement. Another Oscar nomination, The
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Soloist Nanny McPhee Returns Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Anna
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Karenina, which she won her first Oscar for Mr. Turner yet,
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another Oscar nomination. The 2015 adaptation with Macbeth
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Black, Mirror episode nosedive in 2016, the 2017 Beauty and the
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Beast with Emma Watson. Another Oscar nomination,
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Darkest Hour, another Oscar nomination 1917, and the 2019
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Little Women for which she won her second Oscar.
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And this year. She's having quite the year.
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She's got Batman coming out. I'm exhausted after all that.
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I know she's carrying this industry on her back right now.
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Apparently, I was just like oh it because it's so funny because
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it's like I'll look up the costume designer for if I like
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something, I'll be like. Oh, I wonder who did it, but
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like for some reason my mind like does not be like, oh they
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like they did this to they did that and then like you put it
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all next to each other. There and you're like, oh,
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that's a lot. She did a lot of awesome films.
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I hate you're probably expecting this, but the movie 1917.
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That's amazing film. I love that one.
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And then, of course, Little Women, I mean, I love Little
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Women. Let that little woman was
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brilliant. I like 1917 to, that's a good
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one. It's a very good one.
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The sound though of that movie, The only thing the sound.
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It's so loud that movie. So loud.
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Oh, we're talking about 1917. I thought your timeout little
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with no 19. I was like, yeah. 1917 Spooks.
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You also Jaclyn. I'm really excited to see what
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you do with. Zoe Kravitz and Batman.
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Oh Batman looks so good. Zoe Kravitz looks good.
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And that trailer. Robert Pattinson looks good.
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I'm just like oh, oh, oh snap. Anyways.
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Anyways, she did and Truly amazing.
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Hopefully Oscar nomination, worthy wardrobe for Spencer and
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she told refinery29, there is just a picture that tells you
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exactly what she wore on each day.
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It's quite overwhelming that there is that much information
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about her. So she was like already working
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from like an insane amount of information.
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I think. Diana might still be the most.
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Crafts person ever. I'm not sure but she definitely
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was in like the 80s and 90s. So she really has had like a
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wealth of information when she first got together with Pablo
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though in the beginning. He said they weren't really
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working with a specific date in terms of looking wardrobe.
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So anything from 1988 to 1992 was kind of like up for grabs
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and they also didn't want to like place it to specifically
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People couldn't like, pull out an image of Diana and be like,
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oh, well like this, this, this like, this is what you got
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wrong. She was wearing this.
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So they really just like, took all of that information and then
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went into, okay. What was she thinking?
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Why did she wear this? What was she wearing when she
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was, you know out with her son's compared to when she was, you
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know, fulfilling Royal duties, Jacqueline really, just got in
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there to figure out what exactly Lee was her look.
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And she said to nylon, I went through hundreds, possibly
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thousands of images of her and put them into groups like
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colors, geometric prints, plaids and got an idea of the things.
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She did repeatedly in the time period.
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So she was really just like, okay.
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What is the overall look and feel of Diana and this was
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extremely important for her to Just like have Diana's look,
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really, really down. Because while she was excited to
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work with Kristen Stewart. She really did not have a lot of
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time. She said to indiewire.
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I was honored to work with a fantastic character actress.
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I had limited access to Kristin. So we had an extremely long
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fitting. I put together a provisional
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costumes for each scene that we had to examine and work out.
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It was really Focused work. Oh my God.
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Yeah, they had a nine hour fitting with her.
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That is terribly long that has a long fitting.
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Isn't that insane? I could barely do a 30-minute
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fitting like at a clothing store.
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I cannot imagine nine hours of like and the whole time being
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like, this is all I got. This is all I got.
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Yeah, that's terrible. But I mean it worked out, but
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that makes me sweat a little bit.
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I know it's that just sounds so crazy.
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And she said they really didn't deviate too much from what they
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decided in the fitting. But one thing that probably made
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it a little easier in the fittings was they partnered with
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Chanel, to make a lot of the pieces seen Tyler quotes.
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Jaclyn is saying Spencer was a small film, but we wanted to
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establish a world that in many ways was the dream world of a
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princess. The luxury that Chanel
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represents was very much part of the story.
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We were telling, we wanted the audience to understand the
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privilege of the world that Diana was part of, and the
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Chanel, brand was a great way of communicating that.
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So they like, knocked on Chanel's door because Princess
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Diana were a lot of Chanel and we're like, hey, can we get some
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pieces? And they were like, oh, our
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ambassador. Kristen Stewart is in your film.
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Absolutely, let the door. Wide open for them.
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That's amazing. Blow Jack Lynch.
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And now they were like all on board and Kristen Stewart said
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to Vogue in terms of style and Glamour.
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The collaboration gave the movie.
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Something we wouldn't have had. Otherwise the Chanel pieces
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added to that aura. Diana had as a princess.
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So it was an incredible match in that sense.
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So it's like it sounds like Chanel was just like the cherry
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on top of what made this. Brilliant.
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Brilliant wardrobe. Right?
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That was the thing that just made it pop.
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Yeah, and we are like really gonna get into just how much
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they contributed when we break this down first, though?
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Spencer. Do you need a little a little
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tea break? Yeah.
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I think it's only right that we drink tea during this episode.
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So wait, can we go make myself another cup of tea?
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Sounds lovely. We'll be right back.
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We had a funny break, but we're all back.
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Now. Are you ready to dive into
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Spencer Elizabeth? Oh, I'm ready.
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Take me to England. Spencer, I'll take you to
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England and we're starting the movie, and Diana is obviously a
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very, very late to something. She's just driving through the
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Wilderness of England and she's wearing this.
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Incredible plaid jacket. And I am obsessive this.
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Look, and I really appreciate that in a notes.
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Elizabeth actually put comparisons to the actual
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Princess Diana wearing some of these same garments.
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And like, man, it is verbatim. This is a great jacket.
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Yeah, this is definitely one of those pieces where they were
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like, okay, we're going to replicate this but just make it
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like a little different, like the plaids, a little different
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but like the cut, the colors are like, very on point, right?
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It's almost like, you kind of mention this at Jaclyn,
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basically wanted us to feel true.
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But also it's like a fairy tale still.
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So she could kind of mix and match and use whatever pieces.
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She wanted because this isn't really focusing on one specific
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B. A book date.
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And this is where my favorite costumes actually.
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Yeah. This is a great one.
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It really kind of contrast like, where she starting from because,
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like, this is clearly like a Christmas Eve outfit to like, go
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to sang Sandringham house in, but it's also, like, so, like,
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it's so tight. She's like, so, like bundled up
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and it's like, okay, clearly Is ready to snap here, right?
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Very fitted and still kind of 80s, which I love it.
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I'm a big fan of the 80s. So let's check it rocks.
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It does. And it really contrasts nicely
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against the. The cooks and military personnel
25:31
getting ready at the house. So drab, it's so drag, the the
25:39
cooks are basically like Military Officers themselves.
25:43
Yeah, I mean, I think the head chef is, he probably was a
25:48
former like military officer, right?
25:52
He seems like a killer, both in and out of the kitchen.
25:55
Yeah, I think the, if I remembering all these
25:59
documentaries correctly, they end up hiring a lot of people
26:01
like straight out of the military, right?
26:04
Yeah, that makes sense. But no, I did like these
26:07
costumes and I, especially like the military costumes.
26:10
Those felt very true to Period. Yeah, which is really great for
26:15
to the British military, right? They have a different type of
26:18
military. Did we do equally as drab is
26:22
everybody who is not Diana? Right?
26:26
Not gonna say it. But I guess I'll say this.
26:28
Family kind of sucks sometimes and they are very kind of very
26:33
cookie cutter boring sometimes and to me, it doesn't get any
26:38
more cookie cutter boring than the incredible Peter Pettigrew.
26:42
A crew Timothy is back and he just plays the ultimate British
26:47
villain. He done whether he's Peter
26:50
Pettigrew, That Little evil guy from Enchanted and now he's in
26:55
Spencer, this guy. Oh, and don't forget sweetie
26:58
Todd like this. This guy is amazing at being the
27:01
worst. He is like he really is.
27:05
He plays Major Alistair Gregory in this movie and he's just,
27:11
it's so funny. Because I feel like most of his
27:15
characters are extremely unpolished.
27:18
Right? This guy is like, I don't think
27:21
there's a single item not shining on his person.
27:25
Right? I was actually going to say that
27:27
because originally when I saw he was going to be in this, I have
27:30
this issue or I could only see him as Peter Pettigrew from
27:34
Harry Potter, doesn't matter what he does.
27:37
But this one, he like, I actually saw him for, like the
27:41
actor. He was like, he was Is very
27:43
polished. He was very put together.
27:45
His suit was fitting, right? He didn't have like a weird
27:48
balding mullet where he was transforming into a rat to be
27:51
carried around by Ron Weasley. Like this.
27:54
It just worked and I was like, excited.
27:56
I was like, oh my gosh, I see you for who you truly are a
28:00
polished amazing actor. I know I just he's so good and I
28:06
just his whole his face the whole time, hardly changes, and
28:12
I'm just like, How do you do that?
28:14
Right? He was giving me like real
28:16
Charles Dance Vibes, you know, Tywin Lannister from Game of
28:20
Thrones. Like that's, that's why I kept
28:21
thinking about the whole time who's actually, in the crown.
28:24
But yes. Yeah, but his suit is really,
28:27
really great. Jacqueline.
28:29
Durin does some really great suiting in this film.
28:33
She does Eva. I do love because it is
28:36
Christmas Eve. I love his.
28:38
His like Maroon reddish tie. Because I feel like that was
28:43
like his little attempt at Christmas, right?
28:47
He's like, and it's like, you know, everybody makes that
28:49
little attempt at Christmas, no matter.
28:51
Like what their job is, it's like, oh, it's Christmas Eve.
28:54
Let me pull out the big, the maroon tie so we could spice
29:00
things up around here. I know, I know and I can't
29:04
believe that they weigh themselves before and after the
29:07
holiday. No, I was like, what is going on
29:11
here? Came up with this.
29:13
And this is that's actually like a true story to find a way.
29:16
And I like, who came up with this.
29:18
As soon as I saw Diana. Walk up there.
29:20
I was like, oh man this movie is going to really really take us
29:24
there. I'm like, no wonder you didn't
29:26
do well in this family. Like that's not shocking Havens.
29:34
My cats trying to burrow into my room.
29:36
Hold on. I'm a little teapot short and
29:41
stout. Elizabeth's plane with her cats.
29:48
It wouldn't be a season premiere without the introduction of your
29:51
cats, without a owen. She was literally tearing up the
29:55
carpet. Oh my gosh, why can't I hear her
29:59
with your new fancy setup? I know, you know, and I would
30:03
like to speak with her Aon. You know that today was the
30:07
season premiere recording date, right?
30:09
She did. You know, this is very important
30:11
to all of us. Get it together.
30:13
Okay. Spencer.
30:15
She took that very seriously. All right, let's get to the you,
30:21
sorry. Major detour Diana gets.
30:25
There is not happy about the weighing situation and
30:29
immediately changes into this fabulous Helms, tooth pencil
30:35
skirt, and red turtleneck. I love this.
30:40
Look on her. I love the red on her.
30:43
I loved the like long sleeves of the Turtleneck, but then she has
30:46
like the skirt. I know, I kind of like the
30:48
silhouette where it's like covered up top.
30:50
But then like you're still showing some legs.
30:52
It's so like that's so Diana, you know, it is it's very like
30:58
it's that like you want to be like Christmassy and wintry
31:01
without being Christmassy and wintry.
31:04
Like this is how this is, how fancy people dress for the
31:07
holidays. No ugly sweaters, right?
31:12
And the pearls are introduced which the pearls actually become
31:14
quite Right? The plot Point actually her
31:17
costumes in general, really become quite the plot point in
31:20
this film, which is pretty cute. Oh, yeah, at the pearls
31:23
especially like they look amazing, but I know that she
31:27
might not love them as much as I love them.
31:29
As she says, they are beautiful though, right?
31:34
I just love how she's like complaining, like, she has
31:38
nobody to the point where she's complaining to like the maids
31:43
that he bought her. His mistress the same set of
31:47
pearls, right? And the maids are just like
31:51
ma'am. I'm just happy to be here.
31:53
Yeah, please don't tell me anything incriminating.
31:57
Right? Right.
31:59
My come on Charles. Don't you?
32:01
At least like have people to help you not make these
32:04
mistakes. That's what I'm saying.
32:06
He's trashy. He's been openly cheating on
32:09
her. He's straight.
32:10
Will buy them the same gifts like everyone knows it.
32:13
It's insane. I'm gonna throw My laptop by the
32:16
end of this recording. That's please don't we need to
32:19
record more of these. But Diana, her troubles are just
32:26
starting. She finds a book, The of Anne
32:32
Boleyn life and death of a martyr in her bedroom.
32:36
So she starts having visions of am Bolin at Christmas Eve
32:40
dinner. The major is just like, bugging
32:45
her. About her eating habits and the
32:47
media attention. And like, she just wants to
32:51
visit her family's old estate. That's all she wants to do.
32:55
Right? I mean, Diana is tripping right
32:56
now. She's having a hard time at
32:58
dinner. This is the part where she is
33:01
eat. She thinks she's eating her
33:03
pearls. Yeah.
33:05
This part actually stressed me out because the music was so
33:08
intense. She's choking on pearls.
33:10
And for a second, I was like, is she actually choking on her
33:13
pearls? Or is this a vision?
33:14
What the f? Is going on.
33:16
Oh my gosh, when Kristen Stewart puts the like Scoops up the
33:20
Pearl, eats it and cracks it with her teeth.
33:23
Yeah. I like held my mouth.
33:26
I could like I couldn't. I was visibly sweating in my
33:29
bedroom. When I was watching this, I
33:31
couldn't do it and then the queen turned into am Bolin and
33:34
I'm like scary. All right, let's get to the
33:40
costumes of this scene. I know this was like the
33:44
perfect. For this, it was a slender
33:50
column dress that Diane wore a lot during this period and
33:55
Jacqueline said to a vulture. I ripped on the idea of a couple
34:00
of those kinds of dresses and combined them.
34:03
The color green looks like it was planned because it was the
34:06
same color as the soup, but maybe, when the production
34:09
designer saw the dress, he made the soup the same color plans.
34:15
Oh, that's so funny. It wasn't planned.
34:17
Well that soup looked nasty that soup looks nasty and it's like
34:22
the fact that her dress and the super the same color.
34:25
I was like, I'm very uncomfortable.
34:30
Usually that made me extremely uncomfortable that her dress in
34:35
the soup were the same color. I'm like, she's eating her
34:39
clothes. I don't like this L.
34:41
Is this like a guy get out of here right now?
34:44
I don't like this. You were feeling how Diana was
34:48
feeling in this moment. Dude.
34:50
I was I was just like, oh my gosh, like well, I really hate
34:56
eating the pearls. I actually did like this dress
35:00
though. I like the shape of the back,
35:01
especially when you see like the V shape or the open back.
35:05
It was really pretty. It was so beautiful and it's
35:08
like when she shows it her on the hanger.
35:11
I'm like, you're fun and Princess Diana in that.
35:14
And then I saw and I was like, oh, Oh, okay.
35:16
Okay, Kristen Stewart. Like okay, we see you.
35:20
You look good, right. It's very pretty and the pearls
35:24
looked good on it until she started eating them.
35:27
So my I was watching this with my mom and we watched that scene
35:36
moms. Like she's an actually eat the
35:38
pearls. Did she?
35:40
I was like, No And then it's the next scene when she's like
35:43
running to the bathroom and she has them again.
35:45
She's like, oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, I was really too
35:49
because for a second I was like, do I need a Google this because
35:51
I'm scared right now, right? Well, like Diana did do some
35:55
scary things in her life, but not that.
35:58
There's a podcast, you should listen to, but not that because
36:01
I'm like, immediately, people would have been, like, trying to
36:04
stop her like, well, not or they would just watched her choke.
36:09
I don't know that. That would be bad PR for them.
36:12
Yeah, that's true. Entire staff.
36:14
Let's princess. Diana.
36:16
Choked on her pearls, question mark.
36:20
But this is not the only stunning.
36:24
Look at the table. I have to say the queen looks
36:28
quite nice in this, right. She she did look really great
36:33
Queen Lizzie. It looks just like her.
36:36
Actually, I need to. Who is this actress?
36:38
I played her because she did a great job.
36:41
Actually. I was just about to look that up
36:43
on we're doing a fact checked. Stella Garnet, hmm, Stella.
36:49
Yes. She looked really good.
36:50
She looked just like the queen she really did.
36:53
And I love just like because she has this beautiful diamond
36:58
necklace and earring set with this like white iridescent lace
37:04
dress on. And it almost looks like her.
37:07
Dress is made of diamonds, right?
37:10
It does. She looks very expensive and I
37:13
think for me what sold it to me was the shape.
37:15
Of the neckline. Like that was very Queen.
37:17
Elizabeth to me. Yes.
37:19
That's what sold it for me. It's like the neckline with the
37:22
hair. I was like, oh yes, Queen
37:25
Elizabeth. I just love actresses are cast
37:29
as the queen like Olivia. Colman to me is my favorite of
37:33
all time. I know what you're gonna lie
37:35
Helen Mirren. Oh, hell, and I thought you were
37:38
gonna say Claire Foy. Oh my gosh.
37:40
I love the queen. I love that movie.
37:43
I love that movie so much. My siblings gave it to me as As
37:46
a birthday gift one. I've never actually seen it.
37:50
Oh, it's so good. It's so good.
37:53
The next one in the crown is going to be Imelda Staunton who
37:57
played Dolores Umbridge Umbridge.
37:59
I'm so excited. I'm Bridge very hyped on the
38:02
umbrage. We're just playing the queen.
38:05
Like, what is that? It's perfect.
38:06
Well, people are going to be like, you know, she's just I'm
38:09
bridge but no, she's such an incredible actress.
38:12
Like yeah. The reason why you hate Dolores
38:14
Umbridge, So much is because she's such a great actress.
38:18
So she's about to do the Queen's, Injustice in the crown.
38:21
She is another really creepy part that scared me.
38:26
Was when the queen turned into an Bolin in the wind does look
38:29
great. Yeah, her costume is wonderful
38:32
for a second. I was like, who is she was so
38:36
confused. I was like, oh my gosh, and it's
38:39
like, you know, is ambo win because of the necklace.
38:41
Like you put that necklace on any character.
38:45
In like story about the royal families and the Royals and
38:48
you're like, oh, that, I guess that's a mole in.
38:52
Because it's, like, it's such a stark contrast from the queen in
38:56
her, like, light glittering down to, like, am Bolin with her,
39:01
like French Veil on and like the, like the dark.
39:07
Yes, that's like Maroon and her pearls, it's just like, oh wait.
39:11
Hold on. The queen was just there.
39:13
Who is this, right? I was spooked.
39:16
I was confused for a whole. Secondly, what's going on.
39:19
Yeah, but when I saw the headpiece, so that's what sold
39:22
it to me. I was like, oh, like something
39:24
really weird is going like she's singing a ghost right now.
39:27
So yeah, she is. She definitely is but it's okay
39:32
cuz she's just like gonna chill for the night until the major
39:37
just ruins it for her. Yeah.
39:40
See she put on her like heard 2020 2021 car.
39:45
Doom. It's very like 90s, but like
39:48
everyone's wearing this look right now, dude, I have
39:51
everything in my closet to like make a similar version of this
39:55
and I'm just like, yes, bring back the 90s.
39:59
She's running like these little like high-waisted blue jeans and
40:04
she just looks good, but she's just trying to like stuff her
40:06
face. And of course, Timothy spall
40:09
comes down a ruins. All the fun.
40:11
I know. It's like, I love those because
40:13
it's like, she's like, clearly getting ready for Abed.
40:16
So she's wearing this like cute little camisole.
40:18
But unlike she just wants to like be cozy and have a midnight
40:21
snack. Like who doesn't I love this
40:23
scene at first because it's like she's got those big socks on and
40:27
like the cardigan and she's just like eating all the fancy food
40:30
and I'm like, yeah, this is me. This is like what I want in my
40:34
life. It's just a go walk into a
40:36
refrigerator and have a bunch of food and then he comes in and
40:41
it's like that the color the pink with like the light blue.
40:45
And the White Sox when he walks in.
40:48
She suddenly like looks like a little girl that just got caught
40:52
with like the can be right. I mean this costume does HR down
40:55
a lot and I feel like that's kind of like one of the internal
40:59
problems. She's doing with right now
41:00
because she's so close to like her, you know, her old home and
41:04
now she's like feeling very like nostalgic of like her simpler
41:08
childhood before all this craziness.
41:10
So when she's in the fridge her costume kind of like reverts
41:13
back to like the younger Diana, does she?
41:15
She like really kind of Misses at this moment.
41:17
Yeah, because she I mean she did have a very troubled childhood
41:22
that she didn't quite get out of before marrying him.
41:26
So it's like, of course she like she kind of wants to go back to
41:30
that Timothy spall just a grim reaper of happy moments in like
41:35
a beautifully cut talks. Yeah.
41:37
I mean, he looks good though. Hopefully man, you like wear a
41:43
fancy outfit. Wear it.
41:45
Well, he does. He really like Calm stuff
41:49
together for this film. He looks great.
41:51
Like some people in those like don't like look like they're
41:56
trying too hard. But when he puts it on it's just
41:59
like oh, yes that this one talks Matt.
42:05
I love it. But Diana can just have no peace
42:10
because we didn't really talk about her her dresser.
42:15
Maggie. But they're like, they're
42:17
besties however on Christmas morning.
42:20
She wakes up and it's a new dresser.
42:23
She knows the woman, but she's like, I want Maggie and the
42:27
woman's like my, he's not here. Let's get you dressed.
42:32
And she's just like, hmm. No.
42:34
And just Charles, and the staff and the family just continue to
42:38
bother her. She's just having a time of it.
42:41
Yeah, this, this is so frustrating, but also I will
42:44
say, Just side note. If I were to the one thing I'm
42:48
jealous of from these from this movie.
42:51
I want like a dresser. I want someone to pick my
42:55
outfits but most of all I need that person who walks in in the
42:58
morning as his good morning, sir, and opens on my blinds and
43:02
curtains because when I curtains are closed, I never wake up.
43:06
I need this person in my life. It's like she has no choice.
43:11
She has to be up like that person.
43:14
That's just like come on. On, come on.
43:15
Come on. I'm like, I want that.
43:17
Yeah, because my alarm clock just not does not do it for me
43:20
anymore. I just ignore it's white noise,
43:23
dude, in the morning. I consistently have alarms going
43:26
off every 15 minutes. Yeah, me too.
43:29
It's just automated this past week.
43:32
I was doing every five minutes. Oh Spencer, that's the sign of a
43:36
problem. Yeah, but Diana's problem is she
43:42
wants Maggie back. Maggie's her friend sheet.
43:45
Talks to Maggie. Maggie is like a normal person.
43:49
You can kind of tell like the contrast and how Maggie dresses,
43:53
and how her new dresser Angela dresses.
43:59
It's like Angela's, very formal. Maggie's like kind of laid-back.
44:04
Maggie's the cool dresser. You know, she is she's like, I'm
44:09
not just any dresser. I'm a cool dresser.
44:12
Yeah. Diana tells her like all her
44:14
problems. Alms what she seems to do.
44:18
If everyone actually yeah, even her kids.
44:21
She's like she will not believe what your grandma did today.
44:26
All right. I love everyone.
44:28
She's like, I'm not happy. I am not happy.
44:31
This is why I'm not happy and they're just all like, okay,
44:34
Diana? Whatever you say, but can you
44:37
just like play along? Anyway, it's so sad.
44:42
I hate it. Maggie is Lee dismissed and I'm
44:47
really happy. Diana didn't wear what the
44:50
dresser told her to wear. Cuz I love this little blue
44:54
number on her. Right?
44:57
She stands out so much in the Christmas portrait photo
45:00
Christmas portrait. She's really start.
45:05
I don't know. What's the terminology?
45:07
Yeah. I really glad that she wears the
45:09
blue skirt cause she really stands out and she stands out
45:12
from the family as a whole, but I love that moment when she
45:15
Walks in late, of course because she was late to everything and
45:18
she wears that blue skirt. And you could tell everyone in
45:20
the room is like this girl right here in her blue skirt.
45:23
Like how dare you and she's like, I'm wearing it.
45:27
So you got rid of my dresser. So.
45:30
Yeah, she's like, forget you. It's like that that beautiful
45:34
blue like ice blue skirt, and then I love the top because it's
45:39
like shimmery and like polka dots, and it looks like snow.
45:43
I love it, right. It's very pretty.
45:47
And I just, I love again like cool.
45:50
Like, everyone, just like Blends together, with the exception of
45:56
Diana, the queen, and William, and Harry, right?
46:01
Everyone kind of Blends together, but I did like how
46:04
Jacqueline costumed the entire family because you know, where
46:08
if you watch a crown, you're used to like every member of the
46:11
family like having their moment but in this movie, it was very
46:14
like there were characters. Actors in this family that
46:16
didn't have a single word of dialogue in a film.
46:20
One of them. I believe was Princess Margaret.
46:22
I don't think she said anything. But like still, dude, Fergie was
46:26
in this and she didn't say anything, right?
46:29
Like, they're sitting in the portrait and like, Jack the
46:33
costumed, all the members of the royal family.
46:35
And while they didn't have their own screen, time or dialog, I
46:39
still feel like she got the costumes and mannerisms pretty
46:42
much down, especially to me, is most evident with Princess.
46:45
Grit comparative to, you know, Queen Elizabeth.
46:49
I still feel like that very much looks like something.
46:52
Princess Margaret would wear, I feel like Margaret doesn't get a
46:56
lot of like screen time and anything except the crown.
47:00
So I feel like that's that's very true.
47:03
And like, yeah, they really like made her stick out in terms of
47:07
wardrobe, people who don't know anything about the royal family
47:11
who are listening to this right now or like what are these?
47:15
All talking about Margaret. Anyways, anyways, she keeps
47:20
seeing am Bolin and we get to see ambulance, just beautiful
47:26
tutor dress finally and it's all of its gorgeous magistrate
47:31
beautiful. This is great.
47:33
This is when Oscar award-winning costume designer, Jacqueline
47:36
Duran was like, I just get to go crazy with this costume real
47:40
quick. Right?
47:41
Right. Let's see what for it and it
47:44
looks awesome. It looks awesome.
47:46
And then I love this like this little scene with the major and
47:50
the dresser and she's just like she didn't wear shouldn't wear
47:53
what I told her to she cuz they're watching them.
47:56
Leave church on the TV. She's like she didn't wear.
47:59
I told her to did. I lay out the wrong thing that I
48:01
did. It's like it's like why do you
48:04
care so much. It's like a whole issue that she
48:09
did not wear the exact thing that was set for her to wear to
48:13
church and I like Why is this an issue?
48:16
Because it's just all performance.
48:18
It's just one a big like production that they're trying
48:21
to put on with the royal family, but it's, it's like clearly,
48:26
nobody cares. She can like wear a paper bag
48:29
and people like, wouldn't care. Yeah, people.
48:32
Love to Diana. They still do.
48:34
I mean like she could have wore anything.
48:36
Oh, yeah, but what she wears to church is particularly
48:43
beautiful. Yeah.
48:44
It's Good, it's so good. So, this was a replica
48:50
Jaqueline. Told vulture.
48:52
We asked Chanel for replicas of any clothes Diana, had one from
48:57
them and in the early period, it wasn't many, but there was a
49:01
coat. She wore to visit the president
49:04
of France in 1988 and they had Kristen Stewart, try on the coat
49:11
basically like from their archive, but it was too big to
49:17
be worn, like just by itself, kind of the way Princess Diana
49:21
did. So she was like, okay, we're
49:25
going to like, change this up a little bit.
49:28
Diana did in 1993 wear a red coat to church, what in Sandra.
49:35
Mm. So they were like, okay.
49:37
Well, let's like take the black hat and Veil from when she wore
49:42
that red coat and make this red. Match like Kristen Stewart and
49:48
like what we're trying to do a little bit better and Chanel
49:51
just like remade it for them. Sure.
49:54
Anything for Kristen Stewart, is what Chanel said?
49:58
Yeah, like you can tell like they made some like small
50:02
changes because I feel like Kristen Stewart is like a little
50:06
bit like smaller than Princess Diana's.
50:10
Princess. Diana was like a fairly like
50:11
tall person. So I feel like they definitely
50:14
needed to Like tailor it to her stature, but like dang, like
50:19
they did a good job. It's like beautiful and looks
50:23
almost exactly the same, right? It's such a good coat and I love
50:26
that. She's wearing red to church.
50:28
Like she's like so fiery and angry and just like really over
50:33
everything. So like who wears this bright
50:35
red to church and I love that. And the hat is just woo, it's so
50:41
good because it's like she has to be in front of the
50:44
photographer's but she Don't want to.
50:46
So there's the veil and like I love the red too, because it's
50:50
like, yeah, she is, she is angry and like upset.
50:55
So she wears the red, but it's like, it's Christmas Day.
50:57
This is like, probably the only day she could get away with
51:00
that. What?
51:02
Right? She totally was given a pass
51:04
because she's like, oh, I'm wearing red because it's
51:06
Christmas. Yeah.
51:08
Yeah. I'm like that.
51:09
But see in her head. She's like, I don't care.
51:11
I just hate everybody. I hate everyone.
51:15
And everything and I'm done the next very scary scene.
51:22
Is when she talks to Charles and I feel like she looks like a
51:26
lawyer in this scene. She is like wearing this white
51:32
top and I do feel like she's presenting herself, very
51:35
official, because she's going to go speak with her husband.
51:38
And I just feel like every time she has to go speak of her
51:41
husband has to be like, in this official matter because they
51:44
essentially are They can't stand each other.
51:47
It's a business Arrangement at this point.
51:49
Yeah, it's literally, like a business Arrangement, like she
51:52
has to put on her like, nicest. Outfit to go talk to her boss at
51:56
this moment and it's terrible. But looks good on her though.
51:59
I will say. It doesn't like once again.
52:02
It makes her stand out in this, just like gray brown landscape
52:08
there in. Yeah.
52:09
He really Charles really Blends in with the environment around
52:12
him. He's kind of like camouflaged.
52:15
Yeah. Yeah, on Christmas day.
52:16
Again. We have another piece Chanel
52:19
replicated for them. It's after the queen speech is
52:23
televised Diana. Tries to go and talk to the
52:27
queen and correct. Like just connect a little bit
52:31
with her and the Queen's just kind of like, okay.
52:35
So instead she goes down to talk to the head, chef, who is like
52:40
her only friends left, but she has this amazing.
52:45
Lou Chanel jacket on. It's absolutely stunning.
52:50
I just looking at the fabric of it.
52:52
It's just it's so good. It is so good and Jacqueline
52:58
tour, right? From history toddler quotes.
53:01
Her as saying, I looked back through pictures of Princess
53:04
Diana for images of her wearing Chanel, most that I found were
53:09
later than 92, but there was one significant Chanel Alpha that
53:14
she War when visiting Paris in 88.
53:18
The blue cardigan / jacket fit very well with the style that
53:22
she was wearing in our period. So I felt like it would fit in
53:26
seamlessly the Chanel costume jewelry.
53:29
We used was also perfect for our date and for day and a style.
53:34
So it's just like she is head-to-toe Chanel right here,
53:38
right? The dream.
53:40
And I've seen this jacket before and yeah, like, like you It's
53:45
just this is just a incredible costume.
53:48
I love all the Chanel. I love how much Chanel was
53:51
involved with this film. Like that's amazing.
53:54
Yeah, literally, so about this piece Jacqueline told vulture.
54:00
I said to Chanel do you have that and they made it for us?
54:04
It's something. She actually wore but in the
54:07
context we've put it were still there in her world.
54:11
Well, she lucked out on a lot of these costumes.
54:15
She really did. I just can't imagine calling up.
54:19
Chanel and being like, hey, do you have the jacket that
54:23
Princess Diana were to France in 1988?
54:29
Yeah. Can you make it for?
54:30
Kristen Stewart? Great.
54:33
Yeah. Yeah, he'll be done by tomorrow.
54:35
A big wild wild. And again, I can't like even the
54:40
looks that she liked translated, like, peace for peace.
54:45
It still is just so specific to the movie, it fits in so
54:50
beautifully, right? But then the way that Kristen
54:53
Stewart wears it though, like it's such just like great High
54:57
fashion piece, but just like her mannerisms are so brilliant.
55:00
Because when she steps out to see the queen, she wants like
55:02
becomes like this little girl again who's like standing and
55:05
like this costume that this dress, that almost it's made for
55:09
someone else almost, which is really quite cool.
55:12
Yeah. Yeah.
55:14
It really looks. It's too big on her when she
55:16
goes to talk to the queen, such a good piece.
55:19
And then I love, she goes for a walk and she changes into
55:24
something that's clearly like more her speed.
55:28
Something. She's just very comfortable in
55:30
and the major just ruins her wonderful little moment with the
55:34
Pheasant. Is that what they were
55:36
pheasants? Yeah.
55:38
With that happen. Which, by the way, I've still
55:41
never seen like a real pheasant or pheasants like just flying.
55:45
Round or is it only a England thing?
55:47
I feel like it's an England thing.
55:50
How the people just find pheasants.
55:51
Can someone write us and tell us where to find vessels.
55:54
Yeah. I don't get it.
55:56
Apparently, they're dumb to like, they're not smart animals.
56:02
Yeah. We have a Timothy spall costume
56:04
alert, and he's here to ruin Princess.
56:07
Diana's walk as he that's his main goal throughout this film
56:12
is just how can I interject myself in ruin?
56:15
Her moment. Literally, he literally ruins
56:18
her walk because she's wearing this, really beautiful cream and
56:24
orange plaid jacket, which is like the cream turtleneck and
56:28
these beautiful like leather Chelsea boots, and she's just
56:32
trying to talk to a pheasant and have a walk and he's like, you
56:36
only have five hours to get ready for dinner, talking to us.
56:44
It's true. I think that was my favorite
56:47
moment when she spoke with the Pheasant.
56:50
Yeah. She's like pheasant.
56:52
This is some bullshit in the Pheasant was like, girl.
56:55
I know, I mean, they're getting ready to start shooting us the
56:58
couple hours, such a good moment and he is just like he's in a
57:06
relaxed look as well. But I'm like, you do not look
57:09
relaxed, sir. No, this is his leisure suit,
57:13
which it's like still. More closed.
57:15
And I I've ever worn in my life. You know, I know it's just like
57:20
so many layers, and the way he's talking to her, like, he's
57:24
trying to explain like her Duty and she's just like, excuse me.
57:30
I've been doing this for 10 years.
57:32
I know what's expected of me the point.
57:34
That's not the point, right? Your, your give me real Peter
57:38
Pettigrew Vibes right now. Circe.
57:40
I need you to piss off. Yeah, she just continues with
57:44
her walk. Like by, and I love her next
57:49
look. But I think we have to take a
57:50
little little break. Yes.
57:52
I need another cup of tea and the tea to wait a minute before
57:57
we go to break. You are Elizabeth Queen
58:00
Elizabeth, right? Hello.
58:01
Yes, and I am Spencer. Princess Diana Spencer.
58:06
Like how did this happen? We supposed to be enemies.
58:09
Well, I feel like the queen and Diana like weren't enemies.
58:14
No. No, I feel like the queen just
58:16
like did not understand her. The queen just didn't really
58:20
care. She's like, do your job ma'am?
58:23
I'm sorry. That sucks.
58:24
My life sucks too. But like it sucks for everyone
58:28
which is still not okay, but it's not.
58:30
Okay, and it's so funny because like the queen was like,
58:33
actually raised like extremely sheltered.
58:37
So it's like of course she like believes these like she has
58:41
these crazy expectations. But is this is like everybody
58:44
else? Round them all, like, the people
58:46
like running their lives. It's like, can you like have a
58:50
clue? And get a grip.
58:51
Like, literally if anyone told the queen like, oh, hey, Diana's
58:56
really struggling. Like she just like needs to back
58:59
off a little bit. Like, have some time like get
59:03
like get things together. Like X y&z needs to happen for
59:06
things to be good. The queen would probably just
59:08
been like, okay. Okay, cool.
59:11
Alright, let's go to break. We need some tea.
59:14
We're just We're just chatting. Everybody.
59:16
Take a break. Get some tea.
59:20
Okay, Queen, Elizabeth Hall. You ready to finish the rest of
59:43
this film? I am.
59:45
Alright, let's get into it. So the rest of this movie that
59:49
we just kind of Of like, jump through a lot of different
59:52
costumes, pretty quickly here. Yeah, starting with the dress
59:57
that I think we've all been waiting for was the Christmas
1:00:00
dinner dress. I mean, yes, whoa, whoa, indeed.
1:00:06
Whoa, to this entire series of scenes Diana.
1:00:10
He is just like stressed out by her in-laws and has like a
1:00:14
little Christmas Day breakdown, but she looks like a million
1:00:19
bucks to doing it. We are talking about the cream
1:00:23
and gold gown that she wears to Christmas dinner.
1:00:28
Well, it's a good one. Oh my gosh, it's stunning.
1:00:31
Oh my gosh. Now Jaqueline.
1:00:34
She didn't know if Princess Diana had like worn a Chanel
1:00:39
evening gown during this period. So she was like, just like, show
1:00:43
me what you have in the archive and she found look number 82
1:00:49
from the spring. Summer 1988, haute couture show
1:00:54
designed by Karl Lagerfeld himself.
1:00:58
That is insanity. I cannot believe that they're
1:01:00
just like, oh, look at this one. Yeah, they were just like, oh,
1:01:04
we have this. It's like, oh, okay.
1:01:08
Rifling through her closet. Exactly it.
1:01:12
And it was too precious to be warned repeatedly.
1:01:17
They just remade it for them. What?
1:01:19
Wait, wait there. Made it.
1:01:21
They remade this remade it. I mean, I was gonna say it looks
1:01:25
it definitely looks like it's been altered but like this is
1:01:28
another time where Chanel is like, yeah.
1:01:30
We'll just whip up another one, for you.
1:01:32
Oh my gosh, Jaclyn Doran, will must have been like this is the
1:01:36
best job ever here. Is just a little a little
1:01:39
excerpt from the Vogue Italy. Article about this dress, when
1:01:46
it comes to pleading the dress owes, this wonderful volume to
1:01:49
the house of Log, non, these technical gestures combined with
1:01:55
the miraculous hands of five seamstresses made it possible to
1:02:00
achieve this masterpiece in total.
1:02:03
There are no less then 1034 hours of work.
1:02:09
Including 700 only for embroidery.
1:02:14
That is actually Insanity. I just I don't know.
1:02:18
I'm just like how how how Why like, oh my gosh, how it.
1:02:24
Like I should have looked up their budget because I'm just
1:02:27
like the math is not math. Think that's just math is not.
1:02:32
Yeah, that's too many human hours on this that that was
1:02:35
like, 44 days of work. My it's crazy, but it is so
1:02:41
beautiful. Yeah.
1:02:42
I mean, it's one of the best costumes of the entire film, and
1:02:47
probably one of the best costumes of the year.
1:02:49
Like it's just, it is what it is.
1:02:50
Is it's that Pinnacle of what they want her to be but also
1:02:55
like kind of what she's feeling at that point.
1:02:57
It's like very like fairytale little girl dressing up as
1:03:01
Princess. It's really, it's shiny and just
1:03:06
it makes those pearls stand out. Now, that was a real set of
1:03:11
pearls, Jacqueline talk to voltar about these pearls.
1:03:15
She said the pearls are from a jewelry house called Malad,
1:03:19
which supplied the Holmes, Fine Jewelry.
1:03:22
Chanel provided the costume jewelry, but this house provided
1:03:26
the fine jewelry. They're real Durham said and I
1:03:30
think the slightly large size works well in telling that
1:03:34
story. Yeah, I mean, it pearls are
1:03:37
beautiful. It's one of my favorite parts of
1:03:39
the film. Those are real pearls.
1:03:44
That makes me nervous. Actually.
1:03:46
It's like, oh my gosh, you're wearing something.
1:03:48
So expensive, round your neck. I just that, that must be tens
1:03:53
of thousands of dollars, right? I mean, probably more
1:03:57
conservatively. She's just tossing them around,
1:04:03
like, it's no big deal. They're absolutely beautiful
1:04:07
though. I've just, I'm not a big jewelry
1:04:09
person. I should say.
1:04:10
I don't know why I like, you know, I've obviously study
1:04:13
costume and fashion, but I've just never me and jewelry.
1:04:16
I just have never clicked. But, like I saw these pearls and
1:04:20
I was like, wow. Like they they do so much to
1:04:23
tell the story. These this piece of Fine Jewelry
1:04:26
is telling the story that we are watching right now, and that's
1:04:29
really awesome. I know and it's like they're
1:04:33
such a representation for the royal family because it's like
1:04:37
they're bold and in your face but their pearls.
1:04:40
So it's like they're automatically understated.
1:04:44
But then it's like this very like it's very short string.
1:04:48
So it like really looks like they're choking her.
1:04:50
Her it's like, oh, I'm just being slowly strangled by this
1:04:54
beautiful thing and then it's, but then it's like, okay, it's
1:04:57
the same thing that he gave to another person, and like the
1:05:01
royal family is constantly like giving like their pieces of
1:05:05
jewelry like to each other. So it's like, yes, it's this
1:05:08
fine beautiful thing, but it's like not even something that's
1:05:10
like mine, right? Just a way that's like slowly
1:05:14
strangling her throughout this entire film.
1:05:17
It's just such a good metaphor. Oh my goodness.
1:05:20
Love it, and then like, when she's in the house with that
1:05:26
gray, waxed jacket on. Oh my gosh.
1:05:31
Yeah, it's this part was giving me so much anxiety.
1:05:35
I was like, oh my gosh. No, like not that beautiful.
1:05:37
Beautiful dress, like walking through this really like worn
1:05:40
down dirty house. But then when she put the coat
1:05:43
over, it just felt like she was like taking the costume back for
1:05:46
herself like she loved the dress, but she wasn't
1:05:49
comfortable and She put this coat over and she just felt like
1:05:52
her again. Yeah, it's it's so perfect and
1:05:57
like it just cuts such a beautiful image.
1:06:00
When she's like walking around her dilapidated family home
1:06:04
Jacqueline. Said to vulture.
1:06:07
I hadn't originally imagined it to be a waxed coat, but that was
1:06:11
what worked best for the art department.
1:06:14
And Pablo wanted that color. I wanted it to be believably a
1:06:19
British aristocrats. Coat from the past.
1:06:22
I took on board what everyone said about how a wool coat
1:06:26
wouldn't have lasted for that amount of time.
1:06:30
So I went back to the barber style coat.
1:06:33
It was good, that it wasn't a green coat because you never
1:06:37
would have been able to see it as different from all the coats
1:06:40
that were being worn in the movie.
1:06:43
So it's like she was really like, we're pulling it back, but
1:06:47
it's still different from, you know, the kind of age style that
1:06:52
the royal families in right? Definitely.
1:06:55
Oh, I love it. Oh, so we get to see am Bolin
1:06:59
one more time. But Diana also turns into anvil
1:07:03
in and I didn't catch this until the second time.
1:07:06
I watched it. I was like freaked out.
1:07:09
Yeah. Oh my gosh, the Bella Swan
1:07:12
jumped out a Kristin Stewart in this scene.
1:07:17
It's like a swan. I think you're in the wrong
1:07:22
movie, as she looks beautiful, though, like the way that that
1:07:28
headpiece like really frames her face out.
1:07:30
So right. It's just really beautiful and
1:07:33
all the Pearl details on it. It was good.
1:07:36
Yeah, and it's like, it just makes her look so small, but
1:07:41
this is also when we get this amazing Montage of Diana's life
1:07:47
starting out with this amazing. Being a sailor outfit with the
1:07:53
pirate hat. I love this costume so much.
1:07:56
When I originally saw like the promo photos for this film
1:08:00
coming out. And I saw the pirate hat.
1:08:01
I just kept thinking like why the pirate hat?
1:08:05
Like I just I can't imagine Princess Diana wearing this at
1:08:08
all, but I don't know like something about it just like
1:08:12
really works. It works.
1:08:14
I love it because it's like it's very official.
1:08:18
Like I feel like she just came from like some like Naval like
1:08:22
appointment but then it's like she's the Rogue of the family.
1:08:26
She's a pirate of the family. What it's got her Flair
1:08:32
Jacqueline, talk to Entertainment.
1:08:34
Weekly about this. Look she said that was spaced
1:08:38
roughly on something Diana War. She went to review the Navy.
1:08:42
I think in Portsmouth, Pablo and Kristen loved the idea of her
1:08:47
wearing a pirate hat. So we made the A hat and we made
1:08:51
it in yellow and it was sort of full floating costume, because
1:08:56
we weren't really sure where it was going to fit, but it had to
1:09:00
go in somewhere and I think it found its place.
1:09:04
Yeah, it's perfect. Just like we have this costume
1:09:07
IDK. It'll go somewhere.
1:09:10
It's just too cute to like not use it.
1:09:13
So I'm glad they were like, oh, we have this Montage going up.
1:09:16
She could just throw it on for that.
1:09:18
Like perfect. I want a pirate.
1:09:20
And this is like the best yellow I've ever seen.
1:09:22
I love this yellow and I mean yellow do not get along.
1:09:26
But right now, me and yellow are clicking.
1:09:29
Same like, I don't really get along with yellow either but
1:09:33
this brilliant. Brilliant.
1:09:36
And then, of course, then we come to the penultimate moment.
1:09:41
We were all waiting for the wedding dress.
1:09:44
I mean wedding dress, but you see for like 15 seconds.
1:09:47
Everybody knows the Princess Diana wedding dress.
1:09:50
And I love this wedding trust because it's not, it's not 100%
1:09:55
accurate. But this is such like a
1:09:57
fairytale crazy Montage that she just gets to wear whatever and
1:10:02
it still feels right and it's you know, it's close but I just
1:10:05
love this version of it. It's really beautiful.
1:10:08
I agree and Jaqueline. She really didn't like the rest
1:10:14
of the thing. She didn't want to be, you know,
1:10:15
100% accurate and they actually bought a dress and adapt.
1:10:22
That's crazy. She said 2nd wire because we're
1:10:26
not the crown. It's really about practical
1:10:29
filmmaking as much as keeping with the whole ethos of the
1:10:33
design. I just made the clothes in the
1:10:36
way that felt we were talking about the character and let them
1:10:40
run their course. I love.
1:10:42
She was like, we're not the crown.
1:10:43
We're not trying to like reach out.
1:10:46
Yeah, verbatim this story The like she's about to run around
1:10:51
in the grass and stuff. Like, we're not doing the 30 40
1:10:54
foot long train. Like she's just, you know,
1:10:57
running around. Come on.
1:10:59
They already spent the past like two hundred days.
1:11:02
Working on the Christmas dinner dress.
1:11:04
They were definitely like I'm buying this, and we're just
1:11:06
going to cut it up and call it a day.
1:11:08
I love it exactly. She also spoke to Entertainment
1:11:12
Weekly about. This is she said, so we just
1:11:16
adapted a wedding dress to be an approximation of it.
1:11:20
Under No Illusion that there were differences between Diana's
1:11:23
dress and the dress that we made, but it was kind of the
1:11:27
spirit of the dress rather than an exact.
1:11:30
Replica. I love.
1:11:32
She's like, I know it's different.
1:11:34
I know that she's like, what do you want me to do?
1:11:37
Remake, the dress. We re made so many other things,
1:11:41
but I actually like this version because it, it does contain the
1:11:45
spirit of the old dress, but still feels almost like a little
1:11:49
bit more too. 1021. You know like this feels very
1:11:53
much like built for Kristen Stewart's version of Diana.
1:11:57
I agree. Yeah, it really does like it's
1:12:00
very similar and also like this is just kind of like a memory
1:12:04
sequence and it's like, we all know our memories aren't
1:12:07
perfect. It's like, it's definitely like
1:12:11
what you could imagine Diana had in her mind over time of what
1:12:15
that dress looked like, right? Right, right.
1:12:18
That makes 100% much much. Simpler softer, much more fairy
1:12:24
tale than what she actually had on that makes sense.
1:12:27
Elizabeth. You are so intelligent.
1:12:30
I love it. Thank you, but that piece was
1:12:35
brilliant. And I also love that she's just
1:12:38
like yeah, I bought something and adapted it when so many
1:12:41
times. It's like we were able to make
1:12:44
every single piece custom. She's just like no should know
1:12:49
what's doing it now. I like to imagine that.
1:12:53
You remember that story used to work at?
1:12:55
I won't name it here. But yeah, imagine shoot popped
1:12:58
it to that store. And like, but one I think Jax
1:13:01
has, you know what I'm talking about?
1:13:07
Just casually walking past the scrubs to the wedding dresses.
1:13:14
This looks like Princess Diana popped into the fabric room.
1:13:21
Let me do some light. Silk.
1:13:23
We need to make some adjustments to this beautiful piece among
1:13:28
many many beautiful pieces, and so many pieces of her as a
1:13:34
little girl. And it's like, I love how
1:13:37
everything from one. She's a child is like so bright
1:13:41
and happy. But I also love that when you
1:13:43
see Diana as a little girl, you see that same exact yellow that
1:13:46
was used in the pirate costume. It's the That's why I feel like
1:13:51
she's like really connecting to like her younger self in this
1:13:53
Montage definitely and then just like all the random beautiful
1:13:57
gowns like this. This one shoulder black ball
1:14:02
gown with the Tiara gorgeous for no reason.
1:14:06
Her when she's like watching her younger self.
1:14:09
Do ballet, beautiful, little skirt suit.
1:14:13
My personal favorite is the red gown that she's dancing around
1:14:17
in, for no reason. Oh my gosh.
1:14:19
Yeah. That I think that one flaps that
1:14:23
is my favorite as well. And it's just like you can tell.
1:14:27
That's a memory. She loves because she was
1:14:29
probably like, feeling soak. It was probably a time in their
1:14:32
marriage when she was feeling so cute and doing so well.
1:14:35
And she's like biting her diamonds like kind of like
1:14:41
Happening Here. Yeah.
1:14:43
She was feeling it and I love it.
1:14:45
She's also feeling this like beautiful little frilly White.
1:14:50
Top with just the fairytale skirt.
1:14:53
I like, you. See this at Forever 21 today,
1:14:56
for sure. I've seen that skirt before.
1:15:01
But after her beautiful little Montage, she's still not doing
1:15:06
well. And they finally bring back
1:15:08
Maggie and she's able to talk. Finally, even pet.
1:15:13
Peter Pettigrew is like, this is we're done with this.
1:15:16
I'm going to bring Maggie back. The only person that can maybe
1:15:19
talk some sense into them. The the only person and they go
1:15:24
and they talk on the beach and she's wearing this great cream
1:15:27
sweater and, like, Letterman s jacket, and this was actually
1:15:33
something very similar to what Diana were.
1:15:38
Jacqueline told vulture. She's shaking hands with some
1:15:42
nurses wearing exactly the same jacket.
1:15:45
I couldn't believe that I found it.
1:15:48
I was beside myself, Kristen loves.
1:15:50
Loved it, and we just thought that can be the jacket for the
1:15:54
beach. I love how they're just throwing
1:15:56
costumes places. Yeah.
1:15:58
Well, they're like, this is based off a true events, but
1:16:01
like, I get to do whatever I want with that though and they
1:16:04
just were like, it's almost like they're throwing all the best
1:16:07
Princess Diana costumes out of this as they can.
1:16:10
I love that jacket on the beach. It's so beautiful.
1:16:13
It feels almost like a call back to the beginning of the film.
1:16:16
When she showed up in that plaid.
1:16:18
It's like she's gained back to comfortable fun.
1:16:20
Diana. Yeah, exactly.
1:16:24
And I love that. She puts her yellow pirate suit.
1:16:28
Back on her family's crow in the field, the Scarecrow.
1:16:33
Yeah, it was perfect. I was like, that's a great way
1:16:36
to like, take this very childlike costume and throw it
1:16:40
up on the Scarecrow near like her childhood home.
1:16:42
I love it. Exactly.
1:16:44
Especially because she stole its jacket.
1:16:49
Why do I love more? Is when she breaks up this
1:16:53
weird. Pheasant shooting scene and
1:16:56
she's like boys were gained the fuck out of here.
1:16:58
You want to where we're going? Yeah, KFC KFC.
1:17:04
Oh my gosh. I love it.
1:17:05
She wears that red jacket. She took off the Scarecrow and
1:17:10
she's like, I don't want my son's doing this.
1:17:12
This is stupid. She's like, this is stupid.
1:17:15
You're all stupid wear out or gain.
1:17:18
Some fried chicken, weirdly then.
1:17:20
And she just has the best like sports jacket hat and glasses
1:17:25
combo that I have ever seen. This is supposed to be like
1:17:29
disguised Diana, but I see, definitely like this is what
1:17:33
Kristen Stewart workers like on a normal day too.
1:17:37
Yeah, this definitely. Oh man.
1:17:40
She's like her most comfortable in these scenes, right?
1:17:43
Oh, it was beautiful. And now I want some fried
1:17:46
chicken. I know that.
1:17:50
That is the end of Spencer though.
1:17:53
Such a good movie. I loved it.
1:17:55
It was it was like art. This was like a big wall art,
1:17:58
like fashion Journey. Then we went on specially like
1:18:02
when we're watching a montage to I was like, wow, this is just
1:18:04
like one big fashion e like campaign that I love.
1:18:08
I know. I'm like Chanel, like I don't
1:18:12
think you could have done more. I love that so much, you know,
1:18:17
Elizabeth though we with this. In season two, we are doing a
1:18:22
few new things of the show. And I think you should take us
1:18:26
all into our new segment that you created.
1:18:29
Tell everyone about it. So everyone we thought that at
1:18:33
the end of the episodes, we should just have, you know, a
1:18:37
little bit of fun and decide which costume rules them.
1:18:41
All. This is our new segment.
1:18:43
Spencer. You ready?
1:18:45
I'm ready. Let's do this.
1:18:50
The one costume to rule them all.
1:18:56
To Spencer, tell me your candidate for one costume to
1:19:01
rule them. All, this is really hard and
1:19:03
I've been thinking about this for the past like week.
1:19:07
My first gut feeling is to go with the Christmas dinner dress
1:19:11
because to me that feels like the most obvious so much hours
1:19:15
went into it. It's so beautiful, but I changed
1:19:18
my mind at the last minute and I think I'm going to go if the red
1:19:21
Church costume because the So much storytelling in it that I
1:19:26
loved the fact that she was like really over this entire weekend.
1:19:30
She's pissed. She wore a red coat to church
1:19:33
which is like crazy. But yet she still wearing the
1:19:36
black veil, almost like she's hiding from the public almost
1:19:40
like, she's in mourning for like her life.
1:19:43
So, yeah, I love that costume. That's definitely my choice.
1:19:47
I have to say that was like, on the list, but I had to go with
1:19:53
the Christmas. This dinner ball gown just like
1:19:57
the work that went into it. Like this is the costume.
1:20:01
All the other ones are like building up to just like how
1:20:06
constrained it is, but how beautiful.
1:20:08
And like just girly it is and just like these two conflicting
1:20:13
sides of her coming together in this one look.
1:20:17
Yeah. I mean, it's it's a beautiful
1:20:19
beautiful dress and it's definitely if it's not my number
1:20:22
one. It's my number two.
1:20:24
It's really good. Exactly.
1:20:27
That is my choice. But Spencer, it's not up to us
1:20:31
as it. Well, I don't know, it kind of
1:20:35
but we would love to hear all of you guys.
1:20:39
What is your one costume to rule them all?
1:20:41
We're gonna post obviously we're gonna be posting on Instagram
1:20:44
all week long. We're going to put a couple
1:20:47
pulls up on our Instagram stories.
1:20:49
Make sure you vote for your favorite costume.
1:20:51
Let us know what your one costume rule them.
1:20:53
All is. Yeah, let us know which costume
1:20:56
ruled this movie. Spencer.
1:20:59
Do you want to talk about next week?
1:21:01
I am so excited for next week. We are going to be watching the
1:21:07
very spooky, very costumey film by Guillermo del Toro.
1:21:13
One of our personal favorite nightmare alley, featuring
1:21:18
Bradley Cooper and the one, the only cable inset and We may have
1:21:25
a special guest joining us next week.
1:21:27
So we might so make sure you tune in.
1:21:32
Thank you all so much. I'm so excited to be back.
1:21:35
Season 2 is going to be amazing. If we have a full calendar, full
1:21:39
of great, great, great content coming.
1:21:43
So I've just I'm so excited to do this and I missed you
1:21:46
Elizabeth and Daniel. I miss you, too.
1:21:48
You're in the studio, but this is awesome.
1:21:51
I'm so excited. I missed you guys, too.
1:21:54
Ooh, I'm so excited to be back. Everyone have a wonderful week.
1:22:00
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1:22:05
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1:22:08
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1:22:10
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1:22:24
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1:23:00
design. Right, like they're sitting in
1:23:13
the portrait and like, I've lost you.
1:23:16
Your Frozen in time and space. I'm all alone.
1:23:20
Now, not quite sure what to do and my back in.
1:23:26
Am I back now? Hello, can anybody hear me?
1:23:38
I was trying to talk about for this Margaret.
1:23:46
Continue talking about friends with Margot.