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Jade Tunchy's 'Courageous' Selfie · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken Plus. It's your extra dose
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  Speaker 1: of the hottest influencer and pop culture news. I'm Sophie
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  Speaker 1: Torber and coming up on today's show, Nikki Westcott's desperate
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  Speaker 1: attempt to track down her lost phone and Jade Tunchi
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  Speaker 1: is mocked for comparing herself to Vincent Van Gogh.
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  Speaker 2: But first, Michael Finch has rage baited his followers by
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  Speaker 2: revealing his Easter.
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  Speaker 3: Egg stash, Amy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so in a TikTok, he showed himself arriving home
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  Speaker 2: and opening his fridge with the caption, POV, checking the
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  Speaker 2: Easter inventory 100 times a day like I've got kids
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  Speaker 2: even though I live alone.
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  Speaker 3: And his fridge, it's an absolute dream.
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  Speaker 2: It was mostly packed with mini eggs. And at the
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  Speaker 2: time of recording, his video has had almost 330,000 views.
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  Speaker 2: Mini eggs are so hard to come by.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like once you are two weeks out from Easter,
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  Speaker 1: they're near impossible to find.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they always sell out. And I think we've realized
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  Speaker 2: where they are.
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  Speaker 1: They're in Michael Finch's fridge.
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  Speaker 3: I normally find that.
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  Speaker 2: But this year, my local Woolies always has a huge
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  Speaker 2: supply of mini eggs. My husband, I don't think he's
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  Speaker 2: ever had a mini egg before and he's got into
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  Speaker 2: them this year. So I've had to replace my stash
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  Speaker 2: a few times because I bought extra mini eggs because
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  Speaker 2: I really wanted to make like a Rocky Road Easter
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  Speaker 2: style one with mini eggs and all of that sort
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  Speaker 2: of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We might have to take out a loan to do
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  Speaker 1: it because chocolate is so expensive at the moment. I
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  Speaker 1: have noticed that, as I said, usually in the lead
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  Speaker 1: up to Easter, the stores would be running out of eggs.
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  Speaker 1: But this year there's so many, I think because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of families are just saying, no, I'm not doing
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  Speaker 1: it this year. And that's what my partner and I
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  Speaker 1: have done.
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  Speaker 2: I felt so awkward because his sister literally messaged our
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  Speaker 2: group chat, like our family group chat and was like.
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  Speaker 3: It was really nice.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Hey guys, what would you like for Easter? Are
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  Speaker 2: we doing eggs? Are we doing presents?
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  Speaker 1: And he literally just wrote back, we're not doing it
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  Speaker 1: this year. So don't get us anything. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: that is so awkward. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's fair enough considering you guys both
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  Speaker 2: have children. You can focus on buying them something for Easter.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen another TikTok trend doing the rounds and it's
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  Speaker 2: people who have one of the fridges that dispenses ice.
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  Speaker 2: So this guy, in this one video that's gone viral,
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  Speaker 2: this guy walked up to the fridge, put his hand
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  Speaker 2: under it and Easter eggs just came out where ice
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  Speaker 2: normally does. And everyone was saying that's so easy. Like
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  Speaker 2: obviously you can just fill it up with Easter eggs instead.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting back to Michael Finch's video. The response was
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  Speaker 1: very similar to ours. One person said, damn, that's a
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  Speaker 1: house deposit sitting in your fridge, rich boy. Whilst another said,
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  Speaker 1: what an unhinged flex of wealth. While someone else said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you are rich, rich honey. Now it turns out that
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  Speaker 1: Michael Finch actually sourced his mini eggs from the UK.
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  Speaker 1: So in the comment section, when people asked where he
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  Speaker 1: got all the eggs from, he admitted that he'd ordered
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  Speaker 1: them from overseas. So maybe that's a bit of a hack.
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  Speaker 2: I don't actually think it's cheaper to do that, but
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  Speaker 2: some people Much prefer the taste of chocolate from the UK.
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  Speaker 2: On the topic of English chocolate, UK influencer Anastasia Kingsnorth,
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  Speaker 2: she's just recently released a podcast with her mum. And
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  Speaker 2: in it, she confessed that she'd never eaten a hot
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  Speaker 2: cross bun. So her mum was trying to explain to
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  Speaker 2: her what it tasted like.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, I just don't know if I'd like it.
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  Speaker 1: That is just blasphemy. How can you have never tried
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  Speaker 1: a hot cross bun? Particularly when there's so many different
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  Speaker 1: flavours now. Like back in the day, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: you only had your standard hot cross bun flavour.
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  Speaker 2: Like now there's chocolate. There's anything you can think of really.
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  Speaker 2: For about a week now, Nikki Westcott has been desperately
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  Speaker 2: trying to track down her lost phone. The podcaster put
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  Speaker 2: up posters, got her friends to search the roadside and
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  Speaker 2: even put out a plea to her followers for anyone
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  Speaker 2: with information about the lost phone. But it turns out
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  Speaker 2: the phone was closer to home than she thought.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it turns out she was actually initially unsure
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  Speaker 1: whether to tell this story because she said she felt
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  Speaker 1: so dumb that but her audience was already so invested
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  Speaker 1: in her phone's whereabouts. So she essentially gave everyone what
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  Speaker 1: they wanted, a story time. So she shared the story
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  Speaker 1: time on her TikTok, explaining that the phone first disappeared
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  Speaker 1: one Monday afternoon when she was leaving Byron. Now, Nikki
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  Speaker 1: and her husband, Ollie, recently welcomed their baby daughter, Rafa,
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  Speaker 1: a little over a month ago. And Nikki explained that
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  Speaker 1: she had her hands full when she was getting Rafa
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  Speaker 1: into the car. So she had the pram in one
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  Speaker 1: hand and Rafa in the other. And she said that
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  Speaker 1: shit was just everywhere. Now, at that point, Nikki said
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  Speaker 1: she knew she had her phone on her and thought
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  Speaker 1: that maybe she had just tossed it into the back
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  Speaker 1: of the car. So they proceeded to get into the
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  Speaker 1: car and drive off. Now, Nikki was driving when it
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  Speaker 1: then dawned on her that she didn't exactly know where
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  Speaker 1: she'd put her phone and.
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  Speaker 3: She wanted it.
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  Speaker 1: So she pulled the car over, had a quick look,
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  Speaker 1: checked the roof, but couldn't see anything.
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  Speaker 3: This is my nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that confused them, though, was that they could
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  Speaker 2: hear the phone ringing in the car.
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  Speaker 1: So they thought, oh, it must be somewhere. We're not
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  Speaker 1: going to stress about it. So when they got home,
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  Speaker 1: they literally turned the car upside down to try and
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  Speaker 1: find it. But it wasn't there. They went through the pram,
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  Speaker 1: the nappy bag, everything. There was literally no sign of it.
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  Speaker 1: So they decided to do the find my phone feature
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  Speaker 1: and it showed that the phone was flat, but it
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  Speaker 1: was last showing up at a sports center in Byron.
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  Speaker 1: So they worked out that the sports center was nearby
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  Speaker 1: the road that they had pulled over to search the car.
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  Speaker 1: So the couple worked out that it was at the
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  Speaker 1: sports center nearby where they pulled over to search the car.
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  Speaker 1: So a couple of days later, Nikki and Ollie returned
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  Speaker 1: to Byron to hunt the phone down. So they checked
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  Speaker 1: the roadside where they had pulled over.
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't see it anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: They ended up going to the sports center and putting
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  Speaker 1: up signs that read return phone, very important newborn photos
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  Speaker 1: on there. The couple's friends even got involved. So they
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  Speaker 1: went and checked at the pin drop to see if
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  Speaker 1: they could find it. And Nikki even ended up lodging
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  Speaker 1: a police report. Now, by the time Thursday rolled around,
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  Speaker 1: she thought, well, this phone's not coming back. So I
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  Speaker 1: may as well go and get a new one. So
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  Speaker 1: she went to Optus and was basically told that she
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  Speaker 1: needed her co-host Lucy to be there to authorize the
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  Speaker 1: new phone because they had a business account. So it
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  Speaker 1: was a huge run around. There were a lot of
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  Speaker 1: hurdles in Nikki's way. So she thought, okay, well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to have to leave, go without a phone again
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  Speaker 1: and get things sorted the following day. But as she
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  Speaker 1: proceeded to leave the shopping center, she made a huge discovery.
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  Speaker 3: So she was.
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  Speaker 1: Getting Rafa in her car seat again. She put her
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  Speaker 1: bag on the roof and looked across and there her
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  Speaker 1: phone was sitting on the roof of the car. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have a listen to what she said.
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  Speaker 3: I do not know how the phone was on there
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  Speaker 3: for four days going up and back to Byron Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Ollie swears he looked on the roof and like he's
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  Speaker 2: pretty thorough usually. And I'm just like, how has that happened?
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  Speaker 3: I cannot believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Ollie's like, I don't know what is going on, but
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  Speaker 1: there is someone up there looking out for you because
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  Speaker 1: that is some crazy ass shit. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: know what type of car Nikki and Ollie have because
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  Speaker 1: this is absolutely wild. How did the phone stay on
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  Speaker 1: top of the car, particularly when they've been driving back
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  Speaker 1: and forward from Byron to their home? Now, Ollie told
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  Speaker 1: Nikki she clearly has someone looking out for her because
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  Speaker 1: that is some crazy shit. Now, one follower read my mind.
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  Speaker 1: They said, can we have a visual of the roof?
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  Speaker 3: This is wild.
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  Speaker 1: Another follower wrote, do you have roof racks it was
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  Speaker 1: sitting on or something or just sitting on a plain roof? Lol.
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  Speaker 1: No way it stayed there for days. Now, Nikki ended
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  Speaker 1: up replying, no roof racks, but there is a ledge
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  Speaker 1: thing on either side. So that definitely helps. Thank God.
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  Speaker 1: So that makes a little bit more sense as to
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  Speaker 1: how the phone didn't fly off and go onto the road.
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  Speaker 1: Another person said, that's a glitch in the matrix, not
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  Speaker 1: baby brain. How did it stay there? And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know whether she should be blaming baby brain for this,
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  Speaker 1: because this just seems like some sort of freak incident.
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  Speaker 2: Jade Tunchi has spoken candidly about being mocked while filming
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  Speaker 2: content for Instagram. saying in the current climate it takes
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  Speaker 2: courage to be an influencer. The mum of two sparked
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  Speaker 2: criticism though when she compared her confidence to that of
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  Speaker 2: famous artist Vincent van Gogh. So Jade was out filming
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  Speaker 2: content for the first time since having her son Harvey
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  Speaker 2: when she was taunted.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was out.
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  Speaker 1: At a cafe with influencer Sammy Robinson and she was
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  Speaker 1: taking photos to promote Sammy's label One Mile when she
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  Speaker 1: noticed a group of people looking over at her and laughing.
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  Speaker 1: And as you said, Kate, this was one of the
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  Speaker 1: first times that she'd been out shooting fashion content since
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  Speaker 1: having her son. And prior to that, Jade has been
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  Speaker 1: sharing the really raw and real side of motherhood. So
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  Speaker 1: back in January, she received a lot of praise when
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  Speaker 1: she shared a video of herself eight weeks postpartum. In
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  Speaker 1: the clip, Jade stood in front of the camera in
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  Speaker 1: a back garden wearing a black bra and red shorts
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  Speaker 1: rolled down across her waist. And she turned from side
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  Speaker 1: to side to show her body. and wrote, this is
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  Speaker 1: eight weeks postpartum. Just in case you had a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of hot moms on your feed bouncing back like I
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  Speaker 1: do and needed to be reminded of how normal you are,
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  Speaker 1: I've got you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry, you grew an entire human in there. You're
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  Speaker 2: doing amazing mama. I absolutely love this post from Jade.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day, I wasn't really a massive fan
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  Speaker 2: of her content, but she actually had her first son, Fletcher,
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  Speaker 2: around the same time I had Jack.
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  Speaker 3: And I always feel like you've.
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  Speaker 2: Got this little connection with influencers who have children around
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  Speaker 2: the same time as you.
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  Speaker 3: And she has really changed online.
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  Speaker 2: She is so much more relatable, so much more likable.
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  Speaker 2: And I finally find her funny because I remember I
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  Speaker 2: really didn't find her sense of humor that funny before,
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  Speaker 2: probably because now I've got something to relate to. Like
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  Speaker 2: her motherhood content is just hilarious. And this post was
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  Speaker 2: so vulnerable and it really hit a nerve with her community.
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  Speaker 2: It had 84,000 likes and almost 2000 comments within 24
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  Speaker 2: hours of it being posted.
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  Speaker 3: It's now got over a million views.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And she received a lot of praise for encouraging
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  Speaker 1: moms to ignore bounce back culture. So if you keep
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  Speaker 1: that in mind, Jade would have felt pretty vulnerable returning
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  Speaker 1: to filming fashion content for the first time and putting
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  Speaker 1: herself out there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even if you're not postpartum, it is really
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  Speaker 2: awkward taking photos. Even if you're not posting them for
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  Speaker 2: an influencer campaign, like even if you're just out with
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  Speaker 2: your friends, I feel like there is a lot of judgment,
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  Speaker 2: particularly from boomers. I remember back in the day, this
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  Speaker 2: would be like 10, 15 years ago, there's a iconic
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  Speaker 2: social media page called Shit Adelaide. And people would actually
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  Speaker 2: send in, it was kind of like that influencers in
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  Speaker 2: the wild content of people taking selfies down at the.
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  Speaker 3: Beach or in the city.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember any time we took photos with friends,
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  Speaker 2: I'd be like so worried that someone.
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  Speaker 3: Will film us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you always were on lookout to see if anyone
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  Speaker 1: had their phone out. Now, Jade ended up posting about
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  Speaker 1: this incident on Instagram. So she uploaded an image of
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  Speaker 1: herself posing in the doorway of the cafe while she
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  Speaker 1: was holding her Louis Vuitton handbag and explained what went down.
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  Speaker 1: So she wrote, when I was taking pics with the
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  Speaker 1: girls today, I noticed a group of people looking over
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  Speaker 1: and laughing at me. It's certainly possible that someone just
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  Speaker 1: coincidentally shared some friendly banter at the exact same time
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  Speaker 1: that everyone looked over at me, but you can't help
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  Speaker 1: but wonder if you're being made fun of. She then
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  Speaker 1: went on to say that taking a selfie in public
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  Speaker 1: used to be controversial when she first joined Instagram and
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  Speaker 1: that she and her husband, Lockie, used to feel uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: taking photos of each other early on in their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: She continued writing, nobody would think of an influencer as
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  Speaker 1: courageous because courage is usually linked to something people respect
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  Speaker 1: and not a lot of people respect influencers. But that's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what it took for me to keep putting myself
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  Speaker 1: out there in a potentially uncomfortable situation. It takes courage
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  Speaker 1: to believe in yourself despite what others think and say
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  Speaker 1: about you. It takes courage to stand out from the crowd.
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  Speaker 1: It takes courage to live out your dreams.
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  Speaker 2: If you've been holding yourself back from something out of
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  Speaker 2: fear of failure, rejection or embarrassment, Just remember that Vincent
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  Speaker 2: van Gogh was criticized for his painting style and never
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  Speaker 2: knew his success because it didn't happen until after his death.
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  Speaker 2: Walt Disney was fired from a newspaper for lacking imagination. Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Seuss's first book was rejected 27 times. There's nothing extraordinary
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  Speaker 1: about taking a selfie in public, but I will say
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  Speaker 1: I've always fostered a self-belief that has been imperative to
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  Speaker 1: my success.
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  Speaker 2: She then went on to say that her ability to
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  Speaker 2: switch off the noise and pursue whatever it is she
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  Speaker 2: believes in is extraordinary. She continued writing, my message here
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  Speaker 2: is not that I am a mad C-U-N-T, although seeing
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  Speaker 2: 60,000 people in a stadium recently and realizing I have
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  Speaker 2: over 16 times that following makes me feel like I
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  Speaker 2: might be, is that you need to stop bowing to
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  Speaker 2: societal expectations and norms. Get a little bit uncomfortable and
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  Speaker 2: believe in yourself. She finished up by writing, people are
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  Speaker 2: going to laugh at you, let them. You'll have the
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  Speaker 2: last laugh when you realize you're the one living every
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  Speaker 2: day in the way you dreamed. And I can assure
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  Speaker 2: you the kinds of people who would laugh at you
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  Speaker 2: are absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like she was just giving a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a pep talk.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she was actually comparing herself to these
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  Speaker 1: famous people. I mean, she kind of talked herself down
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  Speaker 1: and said, you know, I'm just taking a selfie, but
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  Speaker 1: realistically it has taken courage in order to grow this career.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you do reflect on the amount of eyeballs
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  Speaker 1: on her, it is courageous to put yourself out there
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  Speaker 1: and try.
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  Speaker 2: I got the vibe that maybe she got some inspiration
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  Speaker 2: from ChatGPT because it was so lengthy and the sort
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  Speaker 2: of examples that were given. Like, I mean, when you
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  Speaker 2: brought this topic to me and said, oh, Jade Tunchi's
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  Speaker 2: comparing her taking a photo to Vincent van Gogh.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: But when you actually have the context around it, she's
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  Speaker 2: just trying to say, look, it might not seem like
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  Speaker 2: a big deal, but it does take a lot of
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  Speaker 2: courage to take photos out in public, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is actually really true. Influencing is the number one job
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  Speaker 2: that young people want these days. There's actually an element
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  Speaker 2: where you have to put yourself out there. The industry
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  Speaker 2: is completely saturated now and more and more kids are
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  Speaker 2: having to jump online and share videos on TikTok and
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  Speaker 2: they're probably getting mercifully bullied at school over them. And
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  Speaker 2: It's the ones that stick it out and continue to
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  Speaker 2: produce content on the regular that potentially will succeed in
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  Speaker 2: this area. I mean, for us, I remember putting out
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  Speaker 2: this podcast and thinking that someone I know will listen
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  Speaker 2: to it and pay us out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was a big fear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree. And I think that whenever an
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  Speaker 1: influencer talks about any of the behind the scenes emotions
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  Speaker 1: that go on with their career, they're always told you
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  Speaker 1: can't complain about it because what you do isn't the
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  Speaker 1: same as say someone working in a hospital or someone
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  Speaker 1: with a stereotypical nine to five. And I think in
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  Speaker 1: Jade's case, she's not saying that this is as hard
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  Speaker 1: as that. She's just pointing out that it does take
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  Speaker 1: courage to put yourself out there when people are paying
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  Speaker 1: the shit out of you. I think what people have
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  Speaker 1: an issue with is they say that she's comparing herself
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  Speaker 1: to these legends.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the bit about.
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  Speaker 2: How many people actually follow her It could have sounded
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  Speaker 2: a little bit conceited if it was taken out of context.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got to remember we live in this click
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  Speaker 2: economy where people don't really wait around and read the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing or that they're only taking one little bit
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  Speaker 2: away from it. And if you did skim read it,
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  Speaker 2: you'd be like, oh, my God, she thinks she's Vincent
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  Speaker 2: van Gogh. Yeah, well, that's exactly what happens. So people
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  Speaker 2: flock to read it.
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  Speaker 1: To slam her for comparing herself to the bunch of
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  Speaker 1: famous figures. One user wrote, she cannot be for effing
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  Speaker 1: real comparing taking photos in public to the effing legacies
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the people she mentioned created. Whilst another said, laughing my
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: ass off, courageous. What's courageous is frontline workers putting themselves
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: in traumatic scenarios to save lives, not putting yourself out
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: there and taking a goddamn picture in front of a cafe.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Whilst another said, they were laughing because influencers look stupid
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: in the wild. Another said, I beg for influencers to
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: enter the same reality the rest of us live in.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Get a job, do something other than constantly victimizing yourself.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Just do anything other than this absolute effing nonsense. So
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of angry people.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I almost feel like those examples actually strengthen Jade Tunchi's
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: argument in the fact that there is so much vitriol
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: thrown at influencers that, I mean, a lot of influencers
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: say that they don't want to even admit that they
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: are an influencer because so many people hate influencers and
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: and disrespect them so much. So while people are going, oh,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not even that hard. Well, you know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: it's a job that people hate. And when you see
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: influencers in the wild taking photos, you know, there would
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: be instances where they would get abused or feel.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Unsafe in public.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I want to point out that Jade does
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: actually have a job. She is a full-time mum to
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: two children under two. She's also a content creator, a podcaster,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: and has a fashion line. So I think she is
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a very busy woman.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I get where people are coming from with comparing.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Jobs that take a lot of courage like those on
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the front line.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But Jade never wrote that the job of an influencer
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: was more courageous than those jobs. She simply reminded her
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: audience that it does take courage to put yourself out there,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: particularly after having a baby.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Well, that is where we're going to leave things today.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: But if you want to hear more from us, we
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: actually have launched a new podcast called The Mums Group.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: It comes out every Wednesday.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So make sure you go follow The Mums Group in
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: its own Spotify and Apple feed. This podcast was recorded
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: on the traditional land of the Kaurna people of the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past and present.