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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan previews BYU FB's fall camp, Cougs in the preseason coaches poll + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: Jerem Jord, Welcome to the show. How are you.
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Speaker 3: Listen? Uh? The Marinis have won back to back walk off,
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Speaker 3: so maybe they'll be in the world. That'd be awesome.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: for the rest of us.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Listen, they're the only Major League Baseball franchise that's
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Speaker 2: At some point, you didn't.
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Speaker 2: How's the summer been, Jerem Jordan, how are you? What's
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Speaker 2: the sumbur been like for you?
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Speaker 3: Summer's been d super slow, super just ready for football.
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Speaker 3: I always gauge around, you know, early September, I go, man,
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Speaker 3: why am I? I'm happy right now? But why am
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Speaker 3: I so much happier in the fall. It's because football
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Speaker 3: is on five six days a week, so we are
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Speaker 3: just weeks away from that. Ball camp begins tomorrow for
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Speaker 3: Cougar football. I know the youths are underway big twelve
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Speaker 3: media days for a couple weeks ago. Life is good, Sean.
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Speaker 3: We are rearing to go. As much as I love
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Speaker 3: the summer, I love the fall more.
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Speaker 1: We were sorely disappointed that we did not get to
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Speaker 1: see you down there at Big twelve media days and
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Speaker 1: pick your brain, but I guess it gives us an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to do so.
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Speaker 2: Right now.
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Speaker 1: BYU is highly thought of, as I think they should
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Speaker 1: be in the conference this year. In the preseason it
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Speaker 1: was you know, Texas Tech and BYU. The conference itself
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Speaker 1: doesn't do the poll anymore, but every other publication does,
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Speaker 1: and people think that this BYU team, with all of
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Speaker 1: the player personnel that they're bringing back and with almost
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Speaker 1: complete consistency in the coaching staff, should be as good
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Speaker 1: or better than they were last year. My question for you,
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Speaker 1: Jerem is, I mean, it was really one team that
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Speaker 1: stud in BYU's way last year. They just couldn't get
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Speaker 1: over the Texas Tech hump. Do we have a reason
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Speaker 1: to believe that this year they can?
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Speaker 3: And there's I mean, there's a chance that they don't
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Speaker 3: even match up with them right depending on how it
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Speaker 3: goes in Texas Tech and YU and the big whole
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Speaker 3: title game. But what the real thing for by Us?
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Speaker 3: Can they do it again? They've done it two years
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Speaker 3: in a row. Twenty three and four is excellent over
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Speaker 3: two years especially in a power league where BO has
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Speaker 3: only been in three years. That's the question, right in
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Speaker 3: the biggest games, is boy going to win or just
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Speaker 3: compete at a level where they'll be considered later like
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Speaker 3: that Notre Dame game is a godsend on the schedule,
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Speaker 3: and if b YU, I think has a great regular
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Speaker 3: season and if they win that their their in prime
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Speaker 3: position to be very interesting at the end of the
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Speaker 3: year for an outline conversation, unlike last year where they
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Speaker 3: probably should have been but we're not. But if you
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Speaker 3: like competes better, yeah, I think the slap in the
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Speaker 3: face that was those two games for YU and the
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Speaker 3: fact that they had some injuries in those games. If
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Speaker 3: they can be healthy, if they can compete better and
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Speaker 3: or obviously win, they give themselves an opportunity because they've
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Speaker 3: been winning, they're on the map, they're noticed. But yes,
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Speaker 3: you have to show up in the biggest games. You
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Speaker 3: always been very good. Can they be great? And as
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Speaker 3: you mentioned, Sean, expectations are high. There are a lot
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Speaker 3: of seasons in Boa history where there were expectations and
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Speaker 3: they weren't met. You always pretty good at being like,
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Speaker 3: tell us what we can't do, and then they achieve it.
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Speaker 3: I guess what they can't do quite yet is get
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Speaker 3: to the playoffs, and that's kind of the next step
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Speaker 3: for boys.
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Speaker 1: I think a great fear for the rest of the
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Speaker 1: Big Twelve should be whether it is or not should
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Speaker 1: be bear Bachmeier making a significant leaf between his first
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Speaker 1: year as a starter as a freshman and sophomore year.
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Speaker 1: When you talk to coaches, when you talk to players
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Speaker 1: who've done it at a high level, a lot of
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Speaker 1: them will say that that second year is where you
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Speaker 1: really make the most growth, that you're now comfortable. It's
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Speaker 1: your job. You're not looking over your shoulder. And I
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Speaker 1: don't think he was much last year either. But bear
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Speaker 1: Bachmeyer was a revelation for BYU as a true freshman
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Speaker 1: last year, and he's had now an entire offseason to prepare.
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Speaker 2: At the school he was at.
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Speaker 1: It showed up late last year, right, and of course
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Speaker 1: it's his job. He's working very closely with the guy
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Speaker 1: who is very underrated in my opinion as a quarterback
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Speaker 1: developer and Aaron Rodrick. What kind of forward strides do
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Speaker 1: you expect from bear Bachmeyer.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because I think if he puts up
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Speaker 3: the same numbers I think that'd be spectacular. The reason
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Speaker 3: being is that BOYD just doesn't have a lot of
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Speaker 3: proven pass catchers in the wide receiver room outside of
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Speaker 3: Stay Jojo Phillips and Tiger Bachmeyer. When you lose Chase
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Speaker 3: Robertson Parker Kingston's production on the field, that's just a
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Speaker 3: lot of yards, a lot of touchdowns, a lot of experience,
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Speaker 3: right for those two guys. So but you add two
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Speaker 3: really good tight ends after you lose Carson Ryan to
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Speaker 3: the draft and the Browns and Walker Lyons from USC
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Speaker 3: and Rodgers Telepagraph from Oregon. So it's it's asking a
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Speaker 3: lot to be like hey, pastor war Yards. But Aaron
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Speaker 3: Rodgerts said this this summer in an article in the
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Speaker 3: Saltic Tribune. Kevin Reynolds said, Hey, I want him to
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Speaker 3: throw for you know about thirty touchdowns, And it was like, WHOA,
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Speaker 3: we had fifteen last year, So I could see where
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Speaker 3: they figured that out. And they used the run game effectively,
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Speaker 3: obviously with LJ. Martin back and then a healthy SIONI mo,
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Speaker 3: I think is going to help a ton. Not having
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Speaker 3: him basically the last ten to eleven games of the
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Speaker 3: year made it so bare. Had the shoulder a little more,
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Speaker 3: and he did a nice job. Against Iowa State, LJ
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Speaker 3: goes out at the beginning of the second quarter, Bear
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Speaker 3: throws for over three hundred bowl game, there's no LJ,
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Speaker 3: you know. Against a range ofer de Tech team, Bert
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Speaker 3: throws for over three hundred and runs effectively at times.
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Speaker 3: So I think this step forward will be continuing what
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Speaker 3: he's done. I don't need him to do more because
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Speaker 3: he was the first true freshman to throw for three
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Speaker 3: thousand and rush for five hundred ever in college football history.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that stat's very well known. That's a
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Speaker 3: crazy one. He doesn't have to do more, just keep
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Speaker 3: it going.
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Speaker 2: What about l J Martin.
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Speaker 1: You see offensive player of the year last year in
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Speaker 1: the conference, even though he did get banged up at times.
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Speaker 1: If he's all the way healthy, and it seemed like
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Speaker 1: he was when we talked to him at Big twelve
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Speaker 1: media days, he seems optimistic about the outlook. Everyone around
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Speaker 1: the program that I've talked to is optimistic about his outlook.
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Speaker 1: Is that a repeatable or even improvable performance from last
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Speaker 1: year for LJ?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think absolutely both of those. Because they feels
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Speaker 3: good about their offensive line. They returned three starters. I
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Speaker 3: think Duoay has one of the top five centers in
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Speaker 3: America and Bruce Mitchell. I think Andrew Gentry's kind with
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Speaker 3: the third day guy in the NFL and the national
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Speaker 3: champ of Michigan that's got a ton of experience. They
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Speaker 3: brought in Pockey Finale from Washington who primarily played guard,
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Speaker 3: but they love him at tackle. They're excited about him,
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Speaker 3: and so the the three man run game of l J. Martin,
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Speaker 3: Jonny Maln bear Bachmer, I think I think that's pretty
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Speaker 3: much up there with anybody's kind of trail of quarterback
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Speaker 3: and top two running backs in the country. I think
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Speaker 3: they're a nice mix of power and speed and I'm
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Speaker 3: excited to see that because that's where Boy's offense starts.
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Speaker 3: It's a it's a rush offense for a play action
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Speaker 3: pass game to tight ends and deep threats that will
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Speaker 3: emerge and l J. Martin certainly at the Crux event.
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Speaker 1: Jerem Jordan is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell
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Speaker 1: Show talking a little outlook for BYU Football Red and Blue,
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Speaker 1: The lack of established pass catchers. That's a problem that
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Speaker 1: you Utah football fans are very accustomed to going into
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Speaker 1: a year and wondering what that's going to look like.
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Speaker 1: It's not like there is in talent, it's not like
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Speaker 1: they haven't recruited well. And that is typically a position
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Speaker 1: where young guys or newcomers can come in and integrate
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Speaker 1: relatively seamlessly. So even if there's nobody established, who do
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Speaker 1: you think is you know, the most likely to emerge
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Speaker 1: and be a primary target for Bear Bachmeyer.
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Speaker 3: I think the two tight ends are going to be
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Speaker 3: used a lot like I really do think Walker Lyons
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Speaker 3: and Rogers Sally Parker are going to be guys that
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Speaker 3: are two of the top three or four pass catches
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Speaker 3: for YU. I think Jojo Phillips walks in as your
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Speaker 3: wide receiver number one. It's kind of been wide receiver
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Speaker 3: number three for the past year or two. Little banged
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Speaker 3: up last year, but he's shown some really good signs.
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Speaker 3: And then there's kind of a crew of guys that
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Speaker 3: someone's going to emerge from this group. Kyler Casper comes
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Speaker 3: over from Oregon, a six to six kids from Arizona
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Speaker 3: that didn't get a ton of run there due to injury.
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Speaker 3: He's looking for an opportunity. Tay Nakua still in Nakua
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Speaker 3: on the ross always awesome, and that's the case legend
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Speaker 3: Glasgrawt of Lehigh High School. They really like him in
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Speaker 3: kind of every situation, the speed, the hands, the route running.
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Speaker 3: Tiger Bachmeyer is a guy that's super solid. You know
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Speaker 3: what you're going to get from him. We got to
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Speaker 3: see a brother the brother connection in the past game.
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Speaker 3: We saw that with Gunner and Baylor Romney a couple
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Speaker 3: of years ago. Let's see it with the Bachmer boys.
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Speaker 3: So let's see there's Reggie Frishnek to snow college transfer
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Speaker 3: who two years ago led JUCO in yards per catch
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Speaker 3: and touchdown. So there's a group of guys there and
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Speaker 3: I think we'll certainly see by committee initially, but I
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Speaker 3: would bank on those two tight ends as being big
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Speaker 3: time targets for BYU.
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Speaker 2: Defensively.
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Speaker 1: Everyone credits Jay Hill for, you know, kind of a resurgence,
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Speaker 1: ay renaissance of BYU defense. A big part of the
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Speaker 1: success that they had was not necessarily developing outstanding star
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Speaker 1: talent that gobbled up all the stats, but every one
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Speaker 1: was good. Everyone helped create the turnovers. Everybody kind of
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Speaker 1: pulled up their chair and ate at that table for
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Speaker 1: BYU's defense, And it's not because they didn't have players
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Speaker 1: capable of being stars. It's just because that's the way
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Speaker 1: things worked out. Now, nobody is perfect. Pass rush needs
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Speaker 1: to improve, probably, but what is the expectation for a
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Speaker 1: BYU defense that is now without j Hill, who was
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Speaker 1: obviously off to Michigan but returns all conference level guys
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Speaker 1: at every level. You got and you brought in maybe
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Speaker 1: the best defensive player, the best defensive transfer in the
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Speaker 1: whole conference.
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Speaker 2: So how good is the defense going to be?
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Speaker 3: The expectations are high. Normally with year one of a
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Speaker 3: DC you kind of go, wow, give him some time.
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Speaker 3: I don't think PAS really afforded that one. Because Kelly's
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Speaker 3: very experienced himself. He's been a position coach under some
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Speaker 3: of the best defensive lines in the country, Bronco men
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Speaker 3: in the Hall for over a decade, has been he
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Speaker 3: had a gear up. Obviously, he's been influenced by Coloney's
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Speaker 3: take J Hill, And remember Gary Anderson didn't go to Michigan.
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Speaker 3: He stayed at BYU, which I think was one of
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Speaker 3: the boons of the off season for Cougar football to
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Speaker 3: continue to have Garry Anderson's influence in the defensive room.
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Speaker 3: They're a Chad k coaching the defensive end, so there's
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Speaker 3: some great experience in that room. So Kelly's ready. I
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Speaker 3: don't think he could be more ready for this moment.
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Speaker 3: And what you said, they've got got talent all over
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Speaker 3: the field at each position group. There haven't been very
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Speaker 3: many years where I felt like there's an NFL guy
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Speaker 3: at every position on defense, So I would say ton
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Speaker 3: of Boston defensive end, linebacker, you got Glasger new Luabe, corner,
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Speaker 3: you got Evan Johnson, perhaps tre Alexander and then safety
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Speaker 3: perhaps the most talented player on Boy's team. As followed
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Speaker 3: out south Twala, who after this year and next year
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Speaker 3: could be a Day one and k Day two guy
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Speaker 3: in the draft. He had that high of a feeling
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Speaker 3: to me, So it's exciting. He's got a ton of talent,
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Speaker 3: a ton of experience. I think he's ready for this moment,
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Speaker 3: and I think he's going to do a great job.
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Speaker 3: I think he'll keep it going on defense, which has
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Speaker 3: been a big big deal for B six that's last
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Speaker 3: two years.
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Speaker 1: When you look at K Pop taking over and having
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Speaker 1: all of those weapons at his disposal, defensive weapons at
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Speaker 1: his disposal. Does it look like Jay Hills defense or
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Speaker 1: does schematically he stir things up do things a little
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Speaker 1: bit differently.
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Speaker 3: That's a little bit TVD with kind of what they're
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Speaker 3: going to roll out of practice and ultimately what we
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Speaker 3: see games, right because that practice typically they're not going
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Speaker 3: to show you the good stuff for the media observation.
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Speaker 3: They'll vanilla it down, as you know. But they have
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Speaker 3: talked about, yeah, it's gonna be similar, but there'll be
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Speaker 3: different wrinkles. They are calling some things some different you know,
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Speaker 3: different things on defense natural to do when you switch DC.
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Speaker 3: So most of spring it was a lot of like, okay,
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Speaker 3: what is this called? We used to call this Now
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Speaker 3: it's this guys getting used to kind of a couple
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Speaker 3: couple new guys in the secondary, you know, Lewis Walker,
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Speaker 3: former former ute and you know others getting used to
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Speaker 3: kind of those calls. But I there will be kind
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Speaker 3: of Kelly's thumb print on it, and he's always kind
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Speaker 3: of been yeah, let's be aggressive, and Jay Hill is
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Speaker 3: aggressive to him. Let's get out to the quarterbacks, Let's
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Speaker 3: have some exotic blitzes. The corner blitzes always exciting, making
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Speaker 3: confusing for the quarterback. And so I think it's going
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Speaker 3: to be similar but different in terms of, hey, we're
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Speaker 3: going to get after him, let's force some turn overs here.
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Speaker 1: You already mentioned one game on the schedule with that
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame contest, It's not only a big opportunity for BYU,
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Speaker 1: it's it's like the premiere non conference matchup in the
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Speaker 1: entire conference. It's the best opportunity for the Big Twelve
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Speaker 1: sort of by extension to stake acclaim at you know,
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Speaker 1: being a top league. And when you look at where
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Speaker 1: it sits in the schedule, who it comes before and after,
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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's some challenge to this BYU schedule,
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Speaker 1: especially when you drop a Notre Dame onto it is this, Uh,
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Speaker 1: how do you view the scheduling?
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Speaker 2: Because Utah has got his.
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Speaker 1: Friendliest schedule as you could ask for for a first
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Speaker 1: time head coach.
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Speaker 2: Where's BYU at on that spectrum?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's some real challenges in the first
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Speaker 3: half of the schedule. Like you said, I think Week
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Speaker 3: two against Arizona at home is a big game. Last
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Speaker 3: year that was a lightning delayed game that went to
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Speaker 3: double ot B always down ten with five minutes to go,
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Speaker 3: and they pulled that one out in double loft. That
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Speaker 3: was a massive, massive wins, nine win Arizona team. If
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Speaker 3: BOI dropped that, that's a ten win Arizona team. That
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Speaker 3: was a good team with no Famprida back on Fox,
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Speaker 3: Middle of the day, skycam, the whole deal. It's going
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Speaker 3: to be a big moment. And then Week four for
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Speaker 3: BYU was big. At TCU, I think TCU is going
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Speaker 3: to be improved. They won eighteen games last year. It's
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Speaker 3: not like they've been bad four years. Off of the
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Speaker 3: National Championship Game run. They hired an oc that's going
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Speaker 3: to run the ball, Gordon Samis from Yukon, So they're
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Speaker 3: going to be more balanced, which I think is dangerous
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Speaker 3: because TCU, to me, they just always have a good defense.
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Speaker 3: They've always got athletes. That's going to be a tough game.
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Speaker 3: So the hope is BYU is you know, five and one,
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Speaker 3: six and oh going to that Notre Dame game. But
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Speaker 3: there's two massive conference games lingering there. Just because YU
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Speaker 3: has gone twenty three and four last years doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: they're just gonna run through everybody. You got to show
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Speaker 3: up and win these games where the targets on your
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Speaker 3: back for BYU now with Texas Tech in this league,
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Speaker 3: so I'm excited about it. And then yeah, there's there's
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Speaker 3: tough contest like at UCFS sneaky the week after Notre Dame,
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Speaker 3: Like what if YU pulls off a huge win and
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Speaker 3: they have to go across country against an always talented
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Speaker 3: UCF team later in the schedule, obviously Utah on the road.
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Speaker 3: That's always tough no matter what the situation is. So
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Speaker 3: it's it's it's rough, man. I would I would love
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Speaker 3: a ten and two regular season for BYU. I know
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Speaker 3: expectations are super high, but you go through that again
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Speaker 3: and you go ten and two. The hope is, you know,
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Speaker 3: eleven and one and that one losses either in league,
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Speaker 3: you can pull off the Notre Dame win, because that's
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Speaker 3: bigger than any single big twelve games, but that you
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Speaker 3: can get to Arlington and give yourself a chance to
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Speaker 3: get to the college football playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Will BYU fans like Morgan Scally more than they like
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Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham, I.
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Speaker 3: Think, no question. Because Kyle refused to say the letters
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Speaker 3: B Y, and you consecutively. Now he'll say it now
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Speaker 3: that it is the Michigan and the like Michigan signs
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Speaker 3: looks like a down U to ye fans, which is
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Speaker 3: kind of funny. But I think, yeah, Morgan out of
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Speaker 3: the gate, has approached it just differently than Kyle. You know,
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Speaker 3: Kyle made it, made it a certain way, and Morgan's
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Speaker 3: kind of put it different on it. So it's been
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Speaker 3: it's been interesting, right, like post post Utah Kyle versus Utah,
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Speaker 3: Kyle kind of feels like a different dude. You know,
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Speaker 3: he's talking about Ohio State and Michigan and how I
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Speaker 3: don't think there needs to be hatred. They were like whoa, wha,
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Speaker 3: whoa what did you decay? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I got a kick out of that for multiple reasons
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Speaker 1: because it's like, wait, do you not remember the rivalry
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Speaker 1: you just came from? And also like it's he's usually
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Speaker 1: not tone deaf, like he'll be cagy, but he's usually
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Speaker 1: not tone deaf, And that was an incredibly done deaf
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Speaker 1: statement from Kyle Whittingham. So whatever, are like, uh no,
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Speaker 1: like we want we want the hate? That like you
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Speaker 1: do want the hate?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: We love it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The coaches pull USA today Coaches Poll or depending on
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Speaker 1: your belief in how the leadership structure of these college
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Speaker 1: football teams work. The USA Today Sports Information Director Poll,
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Speaker 1: the Coaches Poll is out and BYU sits at fifteen.
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Speaker 1: So respect in the preseason for BYU. I think they
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Speaker 1: earned that with what Kloni Satake has done in recent years,
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Speaker 1: and it is what they did, what they did in
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Speaker 1: the off season and retaining a lot of the players
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Speaker 1: that we've already talked about. Is that a good starting
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Speaker 1: point for BYU?
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Speaker 3: In fact shows up in the AP at fifteen, that
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Speaker 3: is kind of the lowest I would want to see them.
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping they're closer to ten. They finished eleventh. They
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Speaker 3: bring back the third most snaps in college football, including quarterback, receiver,
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Speaker 3: and most of the defense. I feel like because BYU
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Speaker 3: is not you know, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Penn State, whatever,
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Speaker 3: like they're if they had those colors and those logos,
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Speaker 3: they would be hovering year ten, nine, ten, eleven. I
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Speaker 3: think that's where they honestly deserve to be, given how
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Speaker 3: much they returned. But I'm expecting kind of twelve thirteen,
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Speaker 3: But I would I would love it if they were. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's highest humanly possible because Cougar Stats, which provides some
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Speaker 3: good stuff. They said that last year, at no point
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Speaker 3: did a preseason unranked team pass a preseason ranked team
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Speaker 3: when they were both undefeated. So where you start pole
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Speaker 3: position really matters in the pulls as you go throughout
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Speaker 3: the season. Certainly you can climb and beating under Dame
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Speaker 3: and launch you you know, and all that stuff, but
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Speaker 3: it does matter like you're always going to lose in
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Speaker 3: the regular season and sets them back to like when
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Speaker 3: do they lose and how much by and that all
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Speaker 3: it all factors in. So the higher you can start,
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Speaker 3: the better. The highest preseason ranking everybody voy, by the way,
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Speaker 3: was number ten coming off the national championship, which is
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Speaker 3: a slap in the face. You win in your ten,
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Speaker 3: What the heck? The next is sixteen? So I expect
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Speaker 3: this to be the second highest preseason ranked VOA team.
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Speaker 1: Ever because it's Texas Tech according to everyone else, maintaining
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Speaker 1: their dominance or you know, being back in a championship game,
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Speaker 1: which I'm not ready to fully just take for granted
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Speaker 1: as of yet. I think Utah is going to have
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Speaker 1: something to say about it, hopefully. I think Arizona i
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Speaker 1: think TCU, like some of the teams you mentioned, I
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Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of Really I think the
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Speaker 1: gap between whoever the top team in the league is
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Speaker 1: and kind of the next tier is not a big gap.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see how it plays out. But what do
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Speaker 1: you think Texas Tech is going.
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Speaker 2: To be this year?
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Speaker 1: They obviously they caught lightning in a bottle last year
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Speaker 1: bringing in all those transfers, getting them all on the
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Speaker 1: same page, and maybe they can recreate that they had
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Speaker 1: the controversy this offseason that would be distracting for I
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Speaker 1: think even the best culture in college football. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if they have the best culture in college football,
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Speaker 1: but that's tough. Sounds like Will Hammond is going to
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Speaker 1: be ready to go week one instead of having to
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Speaker 1: wait till like week three or four. Do you expect
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech to be what they were last year?
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll dominate as much. You know,
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Speaker 3: they dropped the one in the regular season, you know,
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Speaker 3: took it to be away twice. They don't play anybody
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Speaker 3: in the non con abling Christian Oregon State Sam Houston.
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Speaker 3: That Houston game on Friday, September eighteenth is going to
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Speaker 3: be big. Times that is at home for Tech Tech.
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Speaker 3: I think Houston's very good ten win team. Connor Wingman's back,
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Speaker 3: They're getting their footing in the league as well. And
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Speaker 3: then it's not the toughest schedule. They have Arizona there,
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Speaker 3: They've got TCU there. You know, they don't have YU
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Speaker 3: or Utah, like you said, like that's interesting. I do
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Speaker 3: think they are super likely to get to Arlington, but
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Speaker 3: I could see where there's some stumbles. Like their front
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Speaker 3: seven was so good last year. They had nine draft picks.
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Speaker 3: Jacob Rodriguez won every defensive award, number two pick, and
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Speaker 3: David Bailey is edge rusher. They lost some stuff. I
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Speaker 3: know they got it in the portal, but it's rare
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Speaker 3: that you just put it all together in one year
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Speaker 3: in the portal. And let's remember like Texas Tech. I
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Speaker 3: respect the heck out of them, but it's not like
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Speaker 3: they've won ten plus games a million times. They've not
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Speaker 3: had a ton of success like this. This is kind
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Speaker 3: of new territory. What does that look like in year two?
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Speaker 3: What does that look like with Will Hammond? And certainly,
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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, the offseason kerfuffle that was the Brendon
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Speaker 3: Swardsbry stuff. So I do think they're gonna stumble once
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Speaker 3: or twice during the regular season. Is that enough to
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Speaker 3: lose a tiebreaker and not make it to Arlington? I
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Speaker 3: don't know, but I'm with you. I think it's going
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Speaker 3: to be a better race in the league of a
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Speaker 3: lot of like as B plus teams than most people
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Speaker 3: think around the country.
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Speaker 1: Does BYU have any graduating class of twenty twenty two
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Speaker 1: guys that may or may not get a fifth year
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Speaker 1: of eligibility and why we want to come back and
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Speaker 1: rejoin this team.
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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I haven't heard of anyone that
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Speaker 3: either BOA is interested in or is going to suddenly
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Speaker 3: be there. Because it's so soon before fall camp, I'm
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Speaker 3: guessing there's nobody with mensoops. There's time to sort of
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Speaker 3: wrangle that potentially, and for mensoops for BO, I actually
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Speaker 3: expect them to get at least one guy from the
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Speaker 3: twenty two class, but football I'm expecting zero. I'd be
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Speaker 3: shocked that there's someone that kind of rejoined. Maybe there is,
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Speaker 3: but I haven't heard of anybody quite yet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Interesting, Well, we look forward to having conversations with you
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Speaker 1: on a more regular basis now that football is back.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you giving us some time today. Jerem. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Always great to talk to you. Football is almost here.
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Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, Jerem Jordan Red and Blue brought to
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Speaker 1: you by our friends at Murdoch Ford Santa Quin. Jerem
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Speaker 1: does a phenomenal job covering BYU Sports and he's really
25:11
Speaker 1: really dialed in not only on BYU but on the
25:13
Speaker 1: rest of the Big Twelve. Whether you love it or
25:16
Speaker 1: hate it, and I know most of you out there
25:18
Speaker 1: listening hate it BYU. They have a squad man that
25:21
Speaker 1: is a really talented team, that is an incredibly well
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Speaker 1: coached team.