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INTERVIEW: Cari Champion Talks Podcast, Caitlin Clark & Angel Reese, Racism In The WNBA, Price Of Success + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne, the gud
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  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club Laurn LaRosa.
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  Speaker 3: Feeling in for Jess while she's on maternity leaving.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,
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  Speaker 2: Harry Champion. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 5: All right?
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  Speaker 4: I'm so happy. I just would like to say, you
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  Speaker 4: guys need better customer service.
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  Speaker 1: What happened?
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  Speaker 4: So I came in? Well, first of all, I was
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  Speaker 4: told they told me to come an hour ago.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you was here an hour ago?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just real it was the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she was. She was sitting there for a hour.
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  Speaker 3: You had to wait for an hour.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I was doing. That's crazy good correct.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody said that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: No, that definitely happened.
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  Speaker 4: That definitely happened. Then I sat down and somebody's like,
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  Speaker 4: do you need anything? I was like, yeah, I need
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  Speaker 4: some coffee. And then I never and that somebody is
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  Speaker 4: the person by the name of Brandon. Who's Brandon?
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  Speaker 6: Brandon is a young man from Ghana who works and
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  Speaker 6: he's a producer. He don't like black women. He likes
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  Speaker 6: white woman.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so I could explain it.
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  Speaker 4: So if I was white, I would have definitely probably.
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  Speaker 1: Had Karen Champion. You'd have got your call, Karen Champion.
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  Speaker 4: Karen would got the coffee. Carrien didn't get the coffee.
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  Speaker 3: Got it?
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  Speaker 4: La? You look great?
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  Speaker 5: Thank you?
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  Speaker 4: See you again again and.
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  Speaker 1: Two lives back to back. You've bene told in this
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  Speaker 1: studio that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: What's up with.
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  Speaker 4: Why? Why? Why to stop your Julia, don't look and
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  Speaker 4: he's stopping it right now. You fine, period, you fine?
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  Speaker 3: Fine?
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Carry is the host of the necond podcast.
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  Speaker 6: You're back for the fourth season on The Black Effect
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  Speaker 6: iHeart Radio podcast Network, and this season is a little different, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: because you have the making of a rivalry podcast, Caitlyn
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  Speaker 6: Clark versus Angelies.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you putting the women against each other?
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  Speaker 4: I knew you was gonna say that, Okay, So well,
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  Speaker 4: first off, then here's the thing that I saw. I
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  Speaker 4: call a friend of mine, a little short man, and
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  Speaker 4: I go, hey, short man, I want to do this idea.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's great. I said, everybody thinks that
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  Speaker 4: these two ladies don't like each other. And in the
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  Speaker 4: way we work. We see the world through our own lens.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're black, I'm rying with angel and if you're white,
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  Speaker 4: I'm right when Kaitlyn, I don't care what anybody says.
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  Speaker 4: I felt that as opposed to just letting these women
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  Speaker 4: play ball, and I said, rivalry is not a bad thing,
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  Speaker 4: and everybody comparing it to magic and bird and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: that was a good thing, right. It helped the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: That's the reason why the finals were no longer delayed.
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  Speaker 4: They were live, And I was like, this is a
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  Speaker 4: good thing. The WNBA has always been great, but they
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  Speaker 4: needed these supernovas to bring people to the WNBA to
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  Speaker 4: pay attention to see how special they were. They already
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  Speaker 4: had Asia, they already had all these great people, Candice
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  Speaker 4: Briana Stewart. I can go down the list of all
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  Speaker 4: these great players. But for whatever reasons, this storyline was
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  Speaker 4: so compelling and I and my argument is this country
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  Speaker 4: is just built on race. So if you have black
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  Speaker 4: versus white and anything, I'm locked in. Anybody's locked in
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  Speaker 4: because you want to pick a side, and you want
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  Speaker 4: to put all your tropes on whomever's the person you
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  Speaker 4: decided to vote for. Or ride with I'm referring to
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  Speaker 4: the election, and so my mind is, why don't we
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  Speaker 4: talk about the making of a rivalry and how this
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  Speaker 4: is really something special and how it's about to take
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  Speaker 4: women's sports to a whole new level. And my man says, yes,
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  Speaker 4: great genius. And so what I found out by doing
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  Speaker 4: this docu series is six parts. We have six episodes
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  Speaker 4: that were doing in real time while the WNBA playoffs
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  Speaker 4: are happening, and soon we'll be into the finals. And
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  Speaker 4: it's been a ride, and it's been really good and special.
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  Speaker 4: I think we are I think we're doing it for
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  Speaker 4: the culture. I think I'm learning a lot about how
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  Speaker 4: people see women who play sports. And I also know
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  Speaker 4: that I had to really talk about what I felt
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  Speaker 4: because I know I was riding with Angel too, right,
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  Speaker 4: So what do you feel, like?
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  Speaker 1: What have you learned?
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  Speaker 6: Because I mean you already were all in, you very
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  Speaker 6: educated on the subject, But what did you learn new
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  Speaker 6: that might have changed your perspective a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know what, I do root for Caitlyn as well.
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  Speaker 4: Really, I like Kaitlyn. I think Caitlyn's a great I
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  Speaker 4: think she's a baller. I think she just wants to
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  Speaker 4: play what I do. What I don't like is how
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  Speaker 4: some people in the media, some of my colleagues, are like,
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  Speaker 4: how come she not, you know, denouncing racism, and how
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  Speaker 4: come she's not? And I'm like, she will when she learns.
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  Speaker 4: How long does it take a woman to find her
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  Speaker 4: voice in this world? She grew up in Iowa, She's
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  Speaker 4: twenty two years old. I'm not caping for but I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: she didn't have the experience to speak on that. Remember
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  Speaker 4: when Lebron wasn't speaking on Black Lives Matter and all
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  Speaker 4: these other issues, and they held them accountable and he
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  Speaker 4: finally said, Okay, I have something to say. You got
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  Speaker 4: to be educated and you got to be comfortable before
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  Speaker 4: you start talking about it. And she's getting there and
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  Speaker 4: she'll be even better as as the years come along.
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  Speaker 4: But I didn't like that. I also didn't like how
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  Speaker 4: they treated Angel. Angel had the best moment of her life,
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  Speaker 4: the best moment of her life. The crowning achievement is
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  Speaker 4: to win a championship. And when she won this championship,
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  Speaker 4: all these new fans and all these new analysts wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: even celebrate this queen. She had to deal with all
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  Speaker 4: this vitrioll and hate and death threats, and all she
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  Speaker 4: did was say, I'm about to get a ring. You
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  Speaker 4: can't see me. The reality is is that they have
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  Speaker 4: been whoever anybody wanted them to be before they walked
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  Speaker 4: on that stage. Like, as a white woman, we already
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  Speaker 4: define who you are. As a black woman, we already
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  Speaker 4: define who you are. And what I mean by we
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  Speaker 4: is society. They come from two different worlds, they live
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  Speaker 4: two different lives. They are who they are. Their talent
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  Speaker 4: is who they are. So she grew up in Baltimore,
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  Speaker 4: So angels gonna talk talk trash. Caitlin talks trash too,
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  Speaker 4: just differently. And you ever remember let's talk about your
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  Speaker 4: tire cowboys. You ever remember that time a long time ago, Bryant.
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  Speaker 4: This is when Tony Romo tired Tony Romo. It was
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  Speaker 4: quarterback and des Brian is trying to hype him up,
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  Speaker 4: like we can do this, we can do this. And
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  Speaker 4: you're on the sideline and he talking to him with
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  Speaker 4: all this energy, and you hear the commentator saying, oh boy,
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  Speaker 4: Dez is mad. Look at death. He's so mad y
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  Speaker 4: and he's yelling at Tony, and Tony was like, no, actually,
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  Speaker 4: he was trying to hype me up. He was telling
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  Speaker 4: me that we got this, we can win this game.
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  Speaker 4: Now when Tom Brady would sit on the sideline and
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  Speaker 4: throw his helmet and cuts everybody out. Yeah, Tom's really
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  Speaker 4: frustrated with the gamesting what's going on. And we do that, me, media,
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  Speaker 4: everybody does that, And so I am. I'm finding out
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  Speaker 4: that I have my own bias, I have my own attitude.
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  Speaker 4: I even cover the game differently, even.
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  Speaker 1: With white tears.
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  Speaker 4: Don't move you listen at all, Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: But my point is we have to stop doing that,
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  Speaker 4: like media has to stop doing that. I think the
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  Speaker 4: way that the fans are watching this game, they shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: do that. And I think what I'm finding out in
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  Speaker 4: this podcast is that most of us don't like to
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  Speaker 4: see women compete like athletes. Women can't be on the
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  Speaker 4: court trash talking. We can't be in your face. But
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  Speaker 4: it's quite all right to do it in the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: We can do it in the NBA. We can't do
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  Speaker 4: it in the w NBA. And it makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you something about the WNBA thing.
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  Speaker 6: Well, just really, Caitlyn and Angel, are they required to
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  Speaker 6: talk about anything other than basketball. Do we need them
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  Speaker 6: to do we need Kaitlyn or Angel to speak out
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  Speaker 6: about anything, racism, sexism?
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  Speaker 4: Do we need them to I don't know if we
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  Speaker 4: need them to listen. We in this world we live
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  Speaker 4: in today, you don't have that luxury. I think sports,
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  Speaker 4: politics and culture all intersect. That's what we're doing on
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  Speaker 4: Naked Sports. Sports, politics and culture intersect. And especially in
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  Speaker 4: a w NBA that's been dealing with racism since its inception,
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  Speaker 4: you have to talk about it so now you can't
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  Speaker 4: hide it. You have these two big stars and they
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  Speaker 4: are talking about it, so you can't hide it. It's
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  Speaker 4: been happening. But now we have these two stars and
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  Speaker 4: they're talking about it, and they're not letting you get
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  Speaker 4: away with it. You have to. Unfortunate, you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to talk about certain things, but you have to. You
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  Speaker 4: have a voice. I should tell you that a long
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  Speaker 4: time ago.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it home.
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  Speaker 4: I'm makeing up something right now. My point is is
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  Speaker 4: that you are required when you have a response. Look,
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  Speaker 4: with great responsibility comes great pressure and vice versa. You
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  Speaker 4: have to be able to stand in your feet and say,
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  Speaker 4: this is what's happening. And this is what these ladies
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  Speaker 4: have to do, whether they want to talk about it
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  Speaker 4: or not.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about their first season, both both
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  Speaker 2: their rookie seasons.
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  Speaker 4: I think Kaitlyn was I think she was not playing
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  Speaker 4: well when she first started. I think there was a
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  Speaker 4: lot of hype, but I think she figured it out.
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  Speaker 4: I think she is a generational talent.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I think Kaitlin when they didn't take her to the Olympics,
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  Speaker 4: she got in the gym, she got in the lab.
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  Speaker 4: She came back better than ever. She took this team
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  Speaker 4: that had never been to the playoffs within the last
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  Speaker 4: ten years. She took up straight to the playoffs. They
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  Speaker 4: I mean out the first round. But that's a remarkable turnaround.
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  Speaker 4: She didn't do it alone. She had a Leah Boston
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  Speaker 4: and other players, but what she was able to do
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  Speaker 4: for that team was transcended. And then, as far as
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  Speaker 4: Angel's concerned, this is a thing. They both are so
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  Speaker 4: good in college and everybody's like, oh, they go they're
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  Speaker 4: not gonna they rookie year. It's not gonna be this,
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  Speaker 4: It's not gonna be that. They rookie year. They answered
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  Speaker 4: every single call everyone thought they'd be average, were more
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  Speaker 4: than average, over exceed the expectations. They weren't nervous. They
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  Speaker 4: got there. They were like, this is my stage and
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  Speaker 4: what not thinking twice? Angel goes to the med Gala,
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  Speaker 4: then returns and then puts up another record breaking rebound
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  Speaker 4: day a game and I'm like, wait a second, she's
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  Speaker 4: not this is who she is, this is what they do.
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  Speaker 4: They're not bothered by these like all the spotlights. Back
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  Speaker 4: in the day the w n b A. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 4: I felt like the women were I feel like they
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  Speaker 4: were quiet. I feel like they felt like they had
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  Speaker 4: to be a certain way. And these ladies don't even
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  Speaker 4: know what that means. This generation don't know what that means.
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  Speaker 4: I'm showing up.
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  Speaker 6: What you said is very important because back in the
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  Speaker 6: day that maybe it was just as good, but for
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  Speaker 6: whatever reason, they didn't have a.
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  Speaker 1: Voice they did.
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  Speaker 4: I would interview these women, I'd be like, tell me something,
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  Speaker 4: and they'd say what they thought they had to say. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're not doing that now, which I love and that
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  Speaker 4: makes the game so compelling and that's why everybody's paying it.
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  Speaker 1: And now when you know Sheryl swoops, she was like
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  Speaker 1: I know she had a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Hell you know, they had something to say, but it
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  Speaker 4: was new, and it's it's twenty eight years young, it's
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  Speaker 4: still very young. And I and this is around the
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  Speaker 4: same time if we even look at history, about thirty
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  Speaker 4: years into the NBA, that's exactly around the same time
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  Speaker 4: that the NBA started to do well and people could
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  Speaker 4: see the profit in the NBA, not the ABA, but
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  Speaker 4: the NBA when it merged. And it takes a while
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  Speaker 4: for everybody to find their footing and what the foundation
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  Speaker 4: is and what it looks like. So the problem now
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  Speaker 4: not even the problem. They have to in the WNBA
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  Speaker 4: right now, they have to address the racism. Charlotte disagrees
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  Speaker 4: with me on this, and I want to get your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, it's the price of being famous, price of success.
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  Speaker 4: It's the price of success. He's saying. The woman just
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  Speaker 4: have to deal with it like that. It just comes
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  Speaker 4: to the territory of making money.
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  Speaker 3: Do you agree with that when it comes to the racism. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely too.
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  Speaker 5: Why, I mean, because how do you get around it?
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  Speaker 5: How do you not?
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  Speaker 7: And especially and you said, in the world we live
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  Speaker 7: in today, If you don't, people create a narrative, and
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  Speaker 7: then you got to fight back against that, so you
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  Speaker 7: kind of like fuck yourself over a bit.
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  Speaker 4: So you're just sending to put your head down.
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  Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm saying they need to deal with
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  Speaker 7: it like they have to do. It's not put your
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  Speaker 7: head down it.
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  Speaker 6: Let's be clear, because you know they'll take this out
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  Speaker 6: of context. It's not just the racism. It's the heckling. Right,
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  Speaker 6: So it's the heckling, it's the people outside your hotel.
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  Speaker 6: It's all of that comes with being successful.
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  Speaker 7: But that's two separate conversations. And to be clear, I'm
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  Speaker 7: not saying put your head down. Just deal with it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean deal with it, like say something. But with
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  Speaker 7: the heckling and stuff like that, I think there's an
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  Speaker 7: even trade because sometimes people they like when the NBA
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  Speaker 7: players do it, it's a topic. It kind of adds
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  Speaker 7: character to a player. But I can understand him being like,
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  Speaker 7: just don't even address it. But when the NBA players
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  Speaker 7: do it, people talk about it as if it's a
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  Speaker 7: great thing. So why can't they one a bit?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you call bitch niggas all day, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: But it's different with a girl even watching.
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  Speaker 4: So here's different with the double standard that I that
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  Speaker 4: I brought up to Charlotte Mane. He was like, the
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  Speaker 4: men deal with it all the time. I agree, they
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  Speaker 4: do deal with it. And now they've gotten to the
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  Speaker 4: point we've seen Lebron and Russell Westbrook point out the
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  Speaker 4: player and say you have to Caitlyn did that in
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  Speaker 4: her second game of the playoffs. She was like, this
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  Speaker 4: one right here, loved it. Yeah to go, I agree
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  Speaker 4: with that, But this double standard where the women should
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  Speaker 4: and it's a different double standard. The women should just
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  Speaker 4: deal with it because the men just deal with it.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't hit the same way, does it. No, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't hit the same way.
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  Speaker 3: Why not?
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  Speaker 2: Because the NBA stars at w NBA stars, they are athletes,
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  Speaker 2: they're on that platform. They're gonna be called a whole
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  Speaker 2: bunch of things like Charla and myself called a whole
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  Speaker 2: bunch of things.
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  Speaker 3: You called you're a fragle maggot. Don't say that, guys,
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to know.
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  Speaker 5: It's a word.
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  Speaker 4: That is that what Donnelle bard in another day?
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  Speaker 1: You stop demon baby oil anyway, go ahead, continue Fragle man.
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  Speaker 2: As I was saying, I think if you put anybody
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  Speaker 2: into that celebrity light, they have to deal with it.
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  Speaker 2: Whether you're a boxer, whether you're a baseball player, whether
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  Speaker 2: you're a it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Matter who you are. So you're still a celebrity. You
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  Speaker 3: have to do it. Laura has to deal with it now.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's still different because as a woman, there
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  Speaker 7: are different things that people throw on me that like,
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  Speaker 7: I don't want on me. As a man, y'all don't
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  Speaker 7: get that like that is true. So how do you
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  Speaker 7: want to tell a woman that it's not true? For instance,
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  Speaker 7: right if you're.
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  Speaker 1: Out, you're saying the things that I wouldn't want on me.
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  Speaker 1: There's plenty of things you can say to a man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that you don't want it on you.
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  Speaker 7: What I'm saying is that regardless if you want on
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  Speaker 7: you or not, you can react in people champion you,
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  Speaker 7: and if you don't react, it's like, oh, he's he's
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  Speaker 7: used to his celebrity.
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  Speaker 5: If a woman chooses.
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  Speaker 7: To not react, it's like it's going to keep going
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  Speaker 7: to a point where it will it becomes her and
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  Speaker 7: she has no defense against it because she hasn't said anything.
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  Speaker 7: But then if she says something, it's like she thinks
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  Speaker 7: she is you.
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  Speaker 4: You're damned if you do, you damned if it's not
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  Speaker 4: the same for men. And that is that is the truth.
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  Speaker 4: That is a true statement. And so you you all
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  Speaker 4: live in a different world. It's truly a man's world.
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  Speaker 4: The older I get, the more I realize that, I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 4: y'all go, you.
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  Speaker 7: Gotta navigate, Like even in this room, there are certain
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  Speaker 7: things that you guys can do and say very confidently
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: that even if I confidently do and say, people just
• 12:53
  Speaker 7: take it differently.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Nothing's a god that.
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: You can say confidently that we can't say.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, maybe the topic when you talk about and things,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: if we say it wrong, especially when it comes to women. Women,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: if we say it wrong, we're in trouble. But you
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: can say whatever you want about men. And that's how
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: the show old.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: I think we're going. We're taking a confidence somewhere that
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: ain't true.
• 13:11
  Speaker 6: All I'm simply saying it is all I'm simply saying
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: about the WNBA or anybody that's successful. There is no
• 13:16
  Speaker 6: defense to it, meaning that these people can say whatever
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: they want about us and there's nothing we can do
• 13:22
  Speaker 6: about it. Like literally, we can we can speak out
• 13:24
  Speaker 6: against it. We can, you know, say that's wrong, but
• 13:27
  Speaker 6: it's not going to stop it. So you gotta find
• 13:30
  Speaker 6: ways to not let it affect you and not affect
• 13:32
  Speaker 6: your gain.
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: I agree with that, but here's where we draw the line.
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: Caitlin has said as well. Angel has been very vocal
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: about this. On our podcast, Angel Rey says, they followed
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: me home. There's death threats. There's now I'm not saying
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: there's not death threats for the men, but there is
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: a certain level of vitriol that a black woman gets
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: for being comfortable in her own skin and being unapologetic.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: I can't even describe it, and I think I'm not
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: a black man, so I wouldn't know how to relate
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: to what the vituo all you would get would be.
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: But for a woman being confident and comfortable in her
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: own skin, especially a black woman, a black woman, there's
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: something so very frightening about it. Look at look at
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: the election, and Kamala walked over there and shook Donald
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: Trump's hand in his space and was like, what's up?
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Do you know how many people were like, how dare she?
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: That's what she wanted to be.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: That's what she won to us. That's when she won
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: to geeve the optics. He was afraid of her. And
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: and you know what's scary because he knows she tells
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: she's intelligent, she's smart, and she's ready, And that's exactly
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: what Angel is. Intelligence, smart, and she's ready, and she's unapologetic.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: And that is for rightening on a different level. And
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: there's absolutely no respect for her because of the fact
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: that she does that. And so there is some times,
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: in my opinion that enough is enough. You're following me
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: home because I because I was trash talking. I agree
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: with that, but I don't necessarily know, and and and
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: and and this is one thing that I will say,
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: I'm sure other players have dealt with that, Like what
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Lebron went through when he decided to leave Cleveland and
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: go to Miami. I'm sure it was a whole other level.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Like let's just let's be real, Like the way that
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: he dealt with that was probably better than anybody could
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: have dealt with that. And I don't even think I
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: didn't eve think anybody in the WNBA has been experienced
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: what he probably had to deal with, but his level
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: of success because of his level of success, but there
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: is something like, you, look, the w NBA needs to
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: invest in more security. They need to have a no
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: nonsense policy. They need to have a commissioner who talks
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: about this and say we won't tolerate this, although it
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: will happen.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Angel have to invest in her own persons.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: She has to invest in her own personal security. And
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: and Caitlin Clark. I think when she's comfortable, we'll be
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: able to talk about this in a way that says,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: don't put this on me, don't let me, don't this
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: is not about what I want to do. Don't put
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: your tropes, your beliefs on me.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: But that's if the salaries can support it as well.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Like they're not getting played like paid like NBA players,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: So if she can't afford a full time security, that's
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: YEA, you're right, but they're making money. But I do
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: feel like making money.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but even to your point, I think WNBA should
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: provide security even outside of the stadium.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I agree, especially for their top level challenges.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised they.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Put them on I'm happy they put them on private
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: planes so they don't have to be the airport with
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: people harassing intail.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: It started with Britney Grinder. They had to they were
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: rolling up on Brittany mad at her saying she wasn't
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: a patriot. They were upset at her because she came
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: home first. And so they have to do that. And unfortunately, uh,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: there is some onus on the NBA as well. They
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: work together. They should be able to give them money
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: to Hammy, let me hold something and let this get
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: in and let's figure this out. And so I just
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I do understand what you're saying. As a woman. It's
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: a different level of response. It's a different it hits differently.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: You can't say you damned if you do, damned if
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: you don't, you really are so. And so I do
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: believe there needs to be some type of security in
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: place for all of these women. But now we're getting
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: into a whole nother level. And I don't necessarily agree
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: that just because they're famous they have to just take it.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: I mean you kind of do, because what are we
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: supposed to do? Like, what are you supposed to do?
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: When you're like, what is super supposed to do?
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: What is Lebron supposed to do? What is what he's
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: supposed to.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Sign up for?
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: It's not right, it's right, but there's really no defense
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: against it, Like, what do you do somebody gets on
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: the platform and says something crazy about you.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: You consume if you want.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: But what do you mean.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I don't mind you talking bad about me. I don't
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: mind you heckling hackling me either, Right, But the reality
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: is is that this has been an issue for a
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: very long time and they've never addressed it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: The baby just left here, right, he said, what the
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: baby shot somebody because they came on his property. That
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: the guy wanted to perform.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: For the baby.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: That's the price of being the baby. My therapist told
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: me that a long time ago. My therapist said, you
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: can't have you know your your success without having your problems.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It just comes with it. Why I hate that. It's
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Charlamagne got beat up, pushed in the back of the head,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: everybody laughed. Charlamagnet got got beat up again in front
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: of a.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And it beat inside of a bow day.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: It's not true, but I beat the ship out that
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: young man.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was young or old the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: first time.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Mae, somebody they tried to jump you out. That's about
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: But nobody felt bad for everybody.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: They should.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: They should.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: The guys the drugs do I beat the ship out
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: of them. The other one they pushed me in the
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: back of the head.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Nothing, I ran, he ran into the station.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: But that was a different kind of that was just
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: what he was.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: A bad guy. He was the bad guy self proclaimed.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: That's apples an orgious basketball, But.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That doesn't.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Was it a mistake? Is it a mistake for Angel
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: Reese to call herself the villain?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: No? She well, she walked it back. She said, Look,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I've been trying to I've tried to own the narrative
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: and take this, but I refuse to take it. She
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm not built for this. Was everybody's not
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: built for that. And by the way, what black woman
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: isn't a villain when she's comfortable in her own skin
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: and speaking up against what's not right. Everybody makes black
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: women a villain when they're comfortable. You know this, I'm
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: not making this up. We're looking at Kamalas. She's smart,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: she's intelligent, and all of a sudden, she's the back.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: How is she a bad guy in a race? Is
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: a bad person in the race?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: She's not me?
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: You pussy? How was she?
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: And Trump is like a total And that's what I'm
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: saying by I know that there's no defense to it,
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: but sometimes it's okay to if you decide to do
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: whatever you think is the defense, react to it because
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: you literally cannot win.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Because when you're a woman, you're the bad guy.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: You don't get the like TOADD, you're the out here,
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: you're doing well, you're.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Speaking for yourself. We don't get that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: It's different for us. And I don't know why it's
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: like that, and I don't know if it's ever gonna change, but.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I get what you.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: I think we're having two different conversations. I'm just talking
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: about when you are a successful person, this comes with it,
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: all of the bullshit, all of the talking ship harassment,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: all of this.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I agree, and you and you and after a while,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: when the beginning it hurts, right, don't care no more? Yeah, Okay,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: what I only day white man. Okay, I got it. Okay,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: what I'm an angry black woman, Okay, I got it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying about.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Get them online. One. I don't want to have this intervention.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Invention. My point is is that there will be a
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: narrative that follows you no matter what, and you take it. No,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: You started why would you the first thing you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Said, day black Man, I date black Man. I believe you,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: thank you? You see how you see.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: How you doing?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: We talk about carry heard the w NBA played the game.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I did do that?
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Show me the pop?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: What's that young lady name?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say because I did not. I'm
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: not gonna say.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: So.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting let me tell you. I'm sitting courtside, minding
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: my own business. Charlot Mane like you over there looking
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: six eight? How tall are you? What are you doing? It?
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Just so happens one of the ladies tumbled from the
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Las Vegas Aces in front of where I was sitting,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: and I was just looking and it was sad.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: You hit her head on Carrie's boot. Look had that
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: boot courtside? Carry over there sitting like a big old nigga,
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: legs open. You know what I'm saying, hands between the lever.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: It takes for the liberty to win. I'm like, who
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: is carry.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Wanting to fight?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: What's going on? But why was you sitting like this?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: You have to why why carry that?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: From Kanyak?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I did not have an Yeah, that's.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: The first thing he came in to say. He was like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: look at Carrie she had.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: She's sitting like a.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Nigg You got your legs up and you send like
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: a man. Who do you think he is? And I
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: was like wait everyone, no, no.
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: When I saw the picture, I was like, did Carry
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: has to play sport?
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I didn't say that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I thought.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: I was like, did she's playing basketball or something?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Because I was like, am I looking like a man? Okay?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Tell me?
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I was First of all, I was in the zone.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I was in the zone. I was watching the game.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: That's how people watch the game. And you're up here
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: like I look like a man. I was like, is
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: that roote?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know why you can sit in a friend
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: talking bad about me all the time.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: He was like, I was in the group chat. They
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: said you was fine. I said I heard she was
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: a man. I was just like, why do you do that?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: What you said?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: That? Not that? Not on this day. I will come
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: over there.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I heard her name Carl. Leave it alone.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: I have a question, like Carry is an example of
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: what I what she's talking about, because it's like Carrie
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: walks in the room.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: She just has a correct right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: It's not because she's just tall, it's just because she
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: really has a presence. I can see how that can
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: intimidate some people.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I and you know what I said, and make people uncomfortable.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I know. I agree. I said, I feel it when
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I feel it, and it's a it's not a cocky thing.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I just feel it. When I walk in the room,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: people stop, they pay attention, they look, and it makes
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: people uncomfortable. I understand that, but it's just who I am.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: It's my my level of comfort wherever I'm at. I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: at home in my body wherever I'm at. And so
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I get why you said that, and that's why he said,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: are you six foot eight? And I'm like, no, I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: just fite ten.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: But it's not a size thing though, Like like when
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Stephanie Mills walks in the room, you just feel it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Do you feel it and you either are comfortable with
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: it or you're not comfortable with it? You can relate, No,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: she can't.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: When did you get comfortable with it? At what age
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: did you get comfortable with it? Because because Stephanie said
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: she didn't get it, tell she was fifty.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Five, Oh wow, I probably say within probably when I
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: was like thirty five, I just knew But first of all,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I look, this does sound crazy, and y'all and you
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: and you, everybody in this room can relate to this.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I hope way you ever felt like you were just
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: special on set apart absolutely from seven years old. Seven
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: years old, I was like, oh, I'm different, and I
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: didn't know what that meant or felt like. And I've
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: just I've walked in that ever since until you realize, oh,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: this is what that means. And people resent you for it,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: people love you for it, people hate you for it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: And that's what we're dealing with. Caitlyn and Angel. They're
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: just different. And of course there are players in the league.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying anybody hates them. But you can't decide
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: who will be the super nova. You can't decide who's
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: going to be the person that carries us into a
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: different stratosphere. It just happens. It's something that is destined
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: it to what it is. You couldn't tell me Breakfast
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Club would not be the voice of the people. And
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: then also elevate into more things like it just happens.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: You were assigned. You were assigned, You were assigned. It
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: is what it is. And so once you realize that
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: you've already felt it. I felt it since I was
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: a kid, and I knew what it was, but I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: was just like, Okay, what does this look like? What
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: am I going to do with it? And these two
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: ladies are learning to deal with that. They know they're assigned,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: they know they're special, they know they set apart, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: they also know that people resent them because there are
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: the folks that were before them that actually laid the foundation,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the don State, Lisa Chryl Swoops, the canvas Parkers. The
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: less you can go down the list of women who
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: really put this league in its place and put it
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: put it literally on the map, but you can't assign
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: who's going to be the super nova to take us
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: to that next level. And it just so happens that
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: it's a woman by the name of Caitlyn Clark and
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Angel Reese. And that story is so damn compelling. Black
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: versus white.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, that story sells regardless.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I mean even in boxing, when you look at boxing
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: any when it's when it's race, I think I think
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: it's sales regardless.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: People want to rep their race.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Taylor Swift and Beyonce we that's our next episode. Our
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: next episode is about the rivalry or the perceived rivalry
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: goes beyond sport. Find me any black and white version,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: and people are going to compare because that's what people do,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: and they have to tell you one is better than
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: the other. But both of those ladies were assigned. They're
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: special and set apart in their own world, powerful, but
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: people still want to put them in verses and want
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: to say one is better than the other.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Your lifelong Lakers fan, so you've seen the Lakers Celtics rivalry.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: What makes this Caitlin Angel thing similar to Magic and
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Bird outside of the race thing?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Like, just what is it?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't play the same position, So I do
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: want to say that because I hear a lot of
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: players say they don't play the same position, So why
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: is there a rivalry. It's a rivalry because of right,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: But it's a rivalry because well, and that was what
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: they were more, they were more equivalent. Caitlin right now
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: is all offense. She is spectacular and she's always going
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: to be more dynamic in the sense that offense gets
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: people in the stands, it makes people pay attention. She
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: is shooting from the logo and it's crazy, it's insane.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: What she can do when she really gets in her zone.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: And what Angel is doing, I think it's different. While
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: she's good on defense and she'll get our offensive game
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: together eventually, what she is doing, she's doing something that
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: we haven't seen, in my opinion, a w NBA player do,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: or a black female athlete do, in a very long time.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: She's getting a little to come to the games. Megdae
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Stallion is talking about what she wants to do. She's
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: at the met Gala. She's living in the world. They're
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: rapping about her, akin to Drake rapping about Lebron. She
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: has She's done something that hasn't been done before and
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: she I don't even know if she's aware of it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Even Serena, I love that people talked about that wasn't
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: happening with Lisa Leslie. Not that way, not in that way.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Like these are her people. She's kicking it with Megan,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: she's taking away podcast like they are her people, they
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: are her friends. She has all the influence around, influencers
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: around her, and they want to be around her. We've
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: seen that happen. Athletes want to be ballers, and ballers
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: want to be athletes. We've only seen that with men.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: We haven't seen that with women, especially not a black woman. Serena.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I'll give her because she was popular and she had
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of people, but it was tennis and she
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: and she did bring all the stars, so look you
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: get you know, apples and oranges. She did bring a
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: lot of stars to the game. But I truly, honestly
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: believe for a w NBA player, a black woman, to
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: have this effect in the culture. She is the culture.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: She's representing the culture. She girl, she'd a high girl.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: You can't she got it. She's on assignment.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: I had to ask them when it happened. Would love
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: to hear what you had to say about it. Like
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: when she had to sit out for the rest of
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: the season, does that affect because I mean she has
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: all that, but like she's not playing the game for
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: the rest of the season, so that does that affect
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: what she was doing?
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Or like what will happen moving forward?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: No, she they have a truncated season. Anyway, I think
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: fat is she would have continued to play, maybe the
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Chicago Sky would have made it to the playoffs. But
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: she made a smart decision in my in my opinion,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: which is to take care of herself now so she
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: can come back stronger than ever. It doesn't affect her,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: it did affect the rookie race in some capacity. I
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: thought Kaylen Clark was going to be Rookie of the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Year anyway. I just thought she was.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Beau know that Reese had a great first half. Yeah,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I just think Kaitlyn's first half.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Was kind of it was, but it balanced out because one,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: not only did she take her team to the playoffs
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: that hadn't been in like ten years, Caitlyn she requires
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: something more. You can't really defend a shot like when
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: they were like triple teaming her and double teaming her.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: She figured it out. She just figured it out. And that,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: to me, for a rookie is really special because how
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: many times have we heard about rookies in the NBA
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: They're gonna be it, They're gonna be how many rookies
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: have been it? When you start looking at these rookies
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: and you're like, who's who's really it? Lebron right after Lebron,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: who was a rookie that was it? Name one after Lebron,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: who lived all the hype after.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: After Lebron, nobody need the.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Number one pick who lived up to all the hype
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: after Lebron.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Nobody, you don't look at me.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't know.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It took them.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: It takes them a couple of years to figure it out.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: It's a different league. But if we're just doing athletes
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: on athletes, I'm just saying, let's talk about it. It's
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: a different league. Obviously different requirements, but it look but
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: it took a minute. Everybody thought Zion was gonna be it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: What about Ion was victim?
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Kind of still special, average, still special, but he wouldn't
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: given everybody the business. Yeah, and that's why I was
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: mad when people were like, they're jealous of her, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: we heard all these the man the men explaining that
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: the women were jealous of Kaitlyn. I was like, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: what about when everybody was going to Lebron's head? When
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: you are, when you are the most sought after, the
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: most talked about, I have to Okay, well, welcome to
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: the league. Let me show you what this is. Kennas
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Parker her We always give this, always give this example.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Cannas Parker's rookie year. She got a two piece. They
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: had her on the ground. They were beating her, like
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: literally trying to beat her up. And it was benches.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Everybody got off the benches, Lisa Leslie got pushed down.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: No one ever talked about it. And then you're talking
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: about Kaitlyn Clark and you're like, oh, they poked her
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: in the eye, they stabbed her in the eye. Oh
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: they they're just so mean to her. What game have
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: you been watching? These ladies? Ball a ball a ball
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: And you even said that you were watching. You were like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: this game is good.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I watched it on television, but going
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to the Liberty.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: And A game, it was like, Wow, it's a whole
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: new thing. I enjoyed it thoroughly, like in a lot
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: of ways more than the men's.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Game a lot of ways because because.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: They're so fundamentally sound that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: They know the basics and they and everyone said, oh,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: they don't dunk, and they and then so when Caitlyn
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: started to shoot, like Steph, you didn't have that excuse
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: anymore to say you weren't watching the game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And that's the new dunk. The logo three is the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: new dunk anyway, So what it is?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Steph? I used to say this and still believe the
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: reason why Steph Curry is the most impactful player the
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: NBA has ever seen is because he made everybody believe.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: He made the average kid in the backyard shoots from
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: the logo believe that they could do it. I don't
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: have to be six foot eight, I don't have to
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: be built like Lebron. I don't have to dunk. If
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I can choot from here, I can be like Steph.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: That is why people love Kaylyn Clark's game, because they believe, oh,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I can do that. Little girls are at home watching.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting next to this little girl right now. This
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: little girl at the game last the other night was like,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: oh wow, like so like and you know why she's
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: watching because when she saw Kayln Clark out there, she
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: could relate. She was like, because I don't know if
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I'm ever gonna be Asia Wilson's height. But and by
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the way, everyone's tall. I mean Steph is tall, Caitlyn's tall.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: But they don't feel unattainable. It feels like it's not aspirational.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: It's like, I can do that, not six eight six. Correct.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: I don't like how you looked at me just now.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: You said everybody's tall. You started to say except you,
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: But do you?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I saw you?
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: How tall are you five four far for I'm showing
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: what I said that to the I told you you're
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: starting to get hips. I told you that you got
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: you he got you got hips for I said that
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: to you. Look at your hips and big.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Beauty you are.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: It's crazy, not even crazy crazy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: If Caitlyn and Angel are Magic and Bird, who's gonna
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: be Jordan?
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: If I have to say who Jordan is right now
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: and she's so humble with it, well we don't know
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: yet she could be, but right now talking about Asia Wilson,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: if I had to talk about who, meaning like Asia
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: is a guaranteed bucket, I know, I know they may
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: not win this series as we know, and we're watching
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: their down to nothing. But Asian to me is she
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: does it all. She does it all. She's in the paint,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: she's defense, she's all. She's literally she's a leader on
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: that court. She requires more. I'm watching. I'm like, if
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: you were a man, we'd be talking about this more.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Greatest w NBA player that's playing today. You know, I
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: love Agan Wilson. I think she's more like Tim Duncan
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: though why just because she's great on both ends of
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: the court right and even though her personality is really big. Right,
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not talking about it, I'm talking about the way
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: they play. For whatever reason, you don't appreciate that type
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: of game. She's so fundamentally sound, dominates on both sides
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: of the court. You know she's gonna show up every game,
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: but it just feels more Tim Duncans.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Tim Duncan is the greatest part for the ball time.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he is. But I feel like there's something
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: more special about her. I but to the point where
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Jorge Why.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: We don't think Duncan is special because he beat the Lakers,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: No, And because George Duncan is phenomenal for two things, right,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: And we got to keep it a buck. You played
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: for the Spurs, very humble team, very quiet team. He's
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: a quiet, humble man. You need to you need to
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: have your tongue hanging out your mouth. You need to
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: talk a little shit. Yeah, that's why we love Jordan.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Jordan gave us flash, she gave us a show. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: need to be entertained if I'm gonna watch basketball. I'm
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: not saying that doesn't mean Tim Duncan isn't that great.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: But that's why people forget, That's why they forget about Kareem.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: They forget about the greatest man ever who created this guy.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: They forget about Kareem in a lot of ways. Absolutely,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And you remember Magic because he was Showtime. The Lakers
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: created Showtime. That's why you remember Magic over and Magic
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: is one of your favorite players. Why do we love
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Kobe because Kobe was like we knew he was a
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: dog and he didn't care about nobody. You love that.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: We need both and that, which is unfortunate because it
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: goes back to my point. Age has that trash talk
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: in her. She got that dog in her. But we
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: don't allow women to play sports like men play sports.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: We don't allow women. We don't consume women the way
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: we consume men. When it comes to sports.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: Asia and Donna the reason I started watching women's basketball.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Yea, Asia is to me the greatest to me, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: that and that and that and that says a lot
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: she and she's so humble with it though that's why
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: we're not paying it. She's so humble with it and that,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: and I'm just like, she's the She's the greatest. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: don't know what juju will be. I don't want to
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: put that on her. I think Juju's Juju Watkins is
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: gonna I think she's gonna be something super special. I
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: think this. I think this class Page Beckers who's at Yukon,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I think she's gonna be special. What Page is gonna
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: do because she has a black stepmother. What she is
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: going to do is be able to kill this narrative
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: of black versus white. Because when she got up at
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: the SP's and said, I just want to give a
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: special shout out to black women. To me, I understood
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: that she knew her assignment. She sees that sometimes these
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: black women in this sport have been ignored. Look, seventy
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: five percent are lbgt QIA. You can't market that to
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Middle America. So that's why it was so hard for
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: the WNBA to take off. So then you have this,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: this this white Catholic woman who comes in from Iowa,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: and it felt more comfortable to watch for the masses
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: and I would look seventy I think I'm back and forth.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Regardless of what the number is, the majority is and
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: it's hard to market that to a country that doesn't
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: want to deal with that. Right, it's hard to market that,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: and not to me, but for them, it was hard
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and This is where two things where the w NBA
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: needs to embrace it. They need to embrace who these
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: women are, what their sexuality is, how they live their lives.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: They also need to get them some security. And they
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: can't make one person be the main person because that
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: causes resentment and strife, and so they need to really
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: this league is growing overnight and the w NBA needs
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: to figure it out quickly.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It's growing so fat.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, think about last year, not the WNBA, but
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: the Women's college basketball NCAA Finals between Iowa and South Carolina.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Nineteen someone million people watch.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: More than the men. They didn't they didn't expect.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: They expect they heard of And at the time when
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: when Angel Reese beat Iowa and LSU beat Iowa, it
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: was nine point nine million people at the time, that
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: was the largest thing I'd ever seen. And and not
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: for nothing. You know, Camlin Clark, they had this exhibition
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: game her senior year, going into her senior year, they
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: played basketball in a football and at football stadium. Fifty
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: five thousand people showed up to watch to play basketball.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Fifty five thousand people showed up to watch women play sports.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: That's crazy, it's it's I mean, we're in a different
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: We're in a different world right now. By the time
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: your children are ready to go pro and play and play,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: and your girls are ready to play, they gotta make money.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you got phenomenally Like you said, you got
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: Page coming, you got Juju coming, you got all these
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: crooks at Iowa State, you got Malaysia for a whilely
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: at Talien.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: She's she's special, beast, a beast. There are so many
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: great players and we're and they've been there. The product
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: has already always been there. We just now started paying attention.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: We just started that. So it's something special and everybody
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: watches women's sports. That's not just cliche. Shout out to
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: my girl, just Sein Brown, who came up with that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: So what do you see them NBA five years from now?
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: I see I see more money. I see it competing
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: in a real way with the NBA. I say that
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: only because of those two women in that storyline. The
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: storyline will be will be a trope for another couple
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: of years because it's interesting and people are compelled to
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: pay attention to it. And you love to pick a side.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: But I also know that on Football Sunday, when Caitlin
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Clark was playing in the playoffs on a football Sunday.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Her game against the Connecticut Son literally average one point
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: two million viewers on a football Sunday. You mean to
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: tell me people weren't watching football. They went to turn
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: to watch women's basketball, not men's basketball. A playoff game,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: the first round. It's it's it's it's a wrap. This
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: is this is the future. So so be prepared, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: anybody listening, make sure your daughter can play sports, because
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: she gonna take care of y'all. It'll be the daughter
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: with who's buying a house. And we'll hear those stories. Well,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: hear the story I bought my mama house, I bought
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: my mama car. Through school, I went back to I
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: went back to my favorite high school, and I gave
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: everybody scholarships. The stories that we hear and see will
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: be for for for men. For the men will be
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: the stories that we hear and see for the women.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: These these rappers will be talking about these women. These
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: women will have big, major, major deals when it comes
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: to marketing. They won't be sitting in the back. And
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: it won't be just because they are cute. It will
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: be because I'm old enough to remember five years ago.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: When they talked about women, it was always who's the hottest.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: When they talk about women in sports, it was who's
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: the hottest. It was never who was the best on
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: the courter, who was the best playing tennis? It was
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: like who look good? Serena made all that attention, although
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: she was great. But the catsuit, we all remember that catsuit,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: that black catsuit. We only sexualized.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I used to have that picture hanging up in it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Remember when she was because she was she had she
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: was hitting there was I had an action shot where
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: she had the tennis racket and she was about to
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: hit the ball.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I used to have it hanging up, hanging up she
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: was about to hit the ball.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: No, I hadn't hanging up in why Serena was amazing?
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: I had the top five list it was remember but
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: it was Serena, Patti LaBelle, Kelly Roling, Okay, Jennifer low Pezant,
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: Stacy dash my point.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: The hottest, the hottest. That's all they used to be.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: They were sexualized and thought they were listen, listen. He
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: would like, day, I love that, I love oh, I
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: love the way she hit the ball. Soon in the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: service crazy it was the first the immediate thought is
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: that she's bad. She's bad, bad, and that's fine because
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: that's how men see women. I understand that. But soon
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: it'll be like, what's her game?
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I promise you this conversation about what they look like
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: will always still be there because men are men. But
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: the reality is the skill set will be the first thing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: When you think about Caitlin Clark. You're not looking at
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: her like, are you bad? You're not thinking that at all.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: You think Kaylen Clark's age thing.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: You know, if you ever know me that you try
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: to do a.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: White woman, Yeah, that's what said.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Absolutely not Now you don't like white women.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: Now, don't you can't even anybody gonna believe that one.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: You can say that all day. Ain't nobody even gonna
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: believe that.
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: Okay, she loves you, she loves Travis Kelsey.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: She had Travis Kelsey at her. I used to and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: califlay exactly.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: So you try to throw that one on me and
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: it back fire.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: White man would have been yeah, but no, Travis. Everybody
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: gets a Travis thing. We don't not anymore, but everybody
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: gets the Travis because he has swag. Swag. It wasn't
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: not that he was attractive.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: He just has I'm confused now what he had because
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: it went away so fast.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: White love him. She want to love the jack so bad.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Little just now Edge you like white Man too?
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: No, I don't, I don't, I mean I don't.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no fans White Man.
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  Speaker 3: She's single.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Oh I was single last time you was here.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: But you you got some booze now, right, So what
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: are the dms like?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Are they worthy? Because I want to give you some advice.
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: I feel like even if they it's a little hard
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: to navigate sometimes because like, where did you come from?
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: And why?
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Sometimes there's a there's a lot of yeah, there's no cheer.
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I could tell that in the conversation because
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: it'll go from you know, like that they'll bring the
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: jokes from the show into the d M and all that,
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: and then it'll go to oh because jokes the single,
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: it'll be like, oh, single, leave you alone, the ones
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: that's world saises.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Don't bring that up because I know.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: You don't shave on your arms.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: One on one arm pitch. She came and hit one
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: day and had hair on the one arm pit. It
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: was crazy, carry it was insane. Yeah, that's when.
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  Speaker 5: I was moving and grooving. I'm not you know, I'm
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: not worried about anything, but you know something that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, First of all, my advice would be have a
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: little fun. Try try try to go with that that like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: you know, that's that've been on my list. I've been
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: on my hit list.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: You've been having fun for a long time.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: First of all, m v no, I have not have fun.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: But you know, don't don't go too crazy. Not too
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: crazy because they'll put your business in the street's business.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: They work with women.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: They are they'll put your business in and they lie.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: They lie man, y'all lie, y'all, stay lying on y'all.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: You can't wait to say. They hit Lauren a little
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: hand on one, but was appreciate.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: Make sure some ve to the making of a rivalry
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  Speaker 6: podcast Caitlyn Clark Brusus injuries on the blackpeck Ieart Radio
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  Speaker 6: podcast network. It will be a documentary soon, documentary audio
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: documentary now.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: But we put it out there.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: And are you stay in New York? You want come
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: up here once a year?
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I can? I try to come All the time I've
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: been trying to get this one. I'll be like, okay,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: let me call it Eddie again. Damn the white white can.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Come up anything you want to. Very busy, you carry.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: On CNN and all kinds of things booked and busy.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: But I'll be back. I love talking about it's very comfortable.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Shout out to everybody who's listening, please go pay attention
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: to this. I'm seriously just as the docuseries a special.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I'm so proud of it. Like I've done a lot
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: of stuff, this is one I'm loud of. I'm really
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: really proud of it because we talk about everything and
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: it's just beautiful. Y'all beautiful. Thank you for supporting.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: You have your coffee next time to Yeah, I know.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Brandon who didn't get it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: He loves white and that's a black man that looks
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: white women. It's Carrie Champion.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Good morning, wake up in the morning. Breakfast Club.