Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Deante Kyle Talks Coming Thru America Tour, Grits & Eggs Podcast, Capitalism, Activism + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hold up.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.
- 0:03Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. Y'all finished or y'all done? Morning, everybody.
- 0:09Speaker 3: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
- 0:13Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. Y'all take care.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Welcome back, brother. How you feeling? Two times in one year, man.
- 0:19Speaker 1: That sounds good, man. Hell yeah.
- 0:21Speaker 4: And you taking the show on the road. Grits and
- 0:23Speaker 4: Eggs podcast is on tour.
- 0:25Speaker 1: You see it with the camera. Coming through America.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Coming through America.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Coming through America. Start October 1st in Chicago.
- 0:32Speaker 4: What can people expect at this show that they can't
- 0:33Speaker 4: get from the podcast?
- 0:36Speaker 1: I think my biggest thing right now is like, you know,
- 0:39Speaker 1: most people say like, especially given my content. I wish
- 0:43Speaker 1: it was more people that thought like this in my
- 0:45Speaker 1: city or, you know, I wish my friend group, I
- 0:47Speaker 1: could talk to them about these things, but I'm bringing
- 0:49Speaker 1: that to you. So you're going to be in a
- 0:51Speaker 1: room with five, 800, a thousand people that's in your city,
- 0:54Speaker 1: in your area that you could build with, build community.
- 0:57Speaker 1: You could talk the way you want to talk with them,
- 0:59Speaker 1: but it's really like just more. So that's kind of
- 1:01Speaker 1: pushing that, that message, the same kind of message that
- 1:03Speaker 1: we push on the pod, but doing it live and
- 1:06Speaker 1: doing it with people, you know what I mean? We
- 1:07Speaker 1: do it together. So yeah. I just kind of look
- 1:09Speaker 1: like it's like one big communal, like a family reunion
- 1:12Speaker 1: type shit. When we come out together, you know who
- 1:15Speaker 1: your people is now. So if you leave the show
- 1:17Speaker 1: and you want to go back to talking about there
- 1:18Speaker 1: ain't no community, you just missed the opportunity to do it.
- 1:21Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 1:21Speaker 4: That's how I know we need more in real life events, right?
- 1:25Speaker 4: Because social media will have you thinking that people's thoughts
- 1:28Speaker 4: are fragmented.
- 1:29Speaker 2: When I hear Grits and Nags podcast, that's the type
- 1:31Speaker 2: of conscious commentary that we've been having.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Our whole lives. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:35Speaker 2: So I can't believe people can't find that in their community.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just like a thing of maybe
- 1:40Speaker 1: an assumption, you know what I mean? Or just scared
- 1:43Speaker 1: to break the ice with people about certain things when
- 1:45Speaker 1: it comes to politics or pop culture or whatever. But
- 1:48Speaker 1: my thing is, it's like, it really ain't no excuse.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Once we pull up, you there with your folks. And
- 1:53Speaker 1: it's like, a lot of people is talking about kind
- 1:55Speaker 1: of breaking away, building together. A lot of people want
- 1:57Speaker 1: to do this kind of like more of an insulated
- 2:00Speaker 1: lifestyle instead of the hustle and bustle of everyday days.
- 2:03Speaker 1: So like, I'm like, I feel like this is a
- 2:06Speaker 1: perfect opportunity. We bring it to you. And then you
- 2:08Speaker 1: got your people you can talk to about anything that
- 2:10Speaker 1: you want to talk to. Like, when we talking about
- 2:12Speaker 1: our community, sometimes we talk about it in a lot
- 2:14Speaker 1: of mixed company, especially online. And it's like, y'all want
- 2:17Speaker 1: to do political strategy on threads. Like, that don't make sense.
- 2:21Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, you're giving away your strategy.
- 2:23Speaker 1: That don't make sense. So I think it would be
- 2:25Speaker 1: cool for people to be in a space where they
- 2:27Speaker 1: can try to figure out something where in their community
- 2:30Speaker 1: they can really get together and talk. Because outside of
- 2:32Speaker 1: the church, we done missed that. You know what I mean?
- 2:34Speaker 2: Did you have to think?
- 2:34Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead. What city are you most excited
- 2:36Speaker 1: to hit? I'm really excited to go everywhere, man, because, like,
- 2:40Speaker 1: the first run is, like, Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Detroit. Like,
- 2:44Speaker 1: that's four days back to back. Like, I've been wanting
- 2:47Speaker 1: to go to them cities and perform for a minute,
- 2:48Speaker 1: but we got two dates in New York, too, the
- 2:51Speaker 1: 9th and the 10th of January. I love New York. Okay,
- 2:54Speaker 1: I was reading what you were expecting from the New
- 2:56Speaker 1: York crowd. It's the first city I got a standing
- 2:58Speaker 1: ovation from, and I didn't know how that felt. I
- 3:00Speaker 1: was like, This is crazy. You know, you get the claps,
- 3:03Speaker 1: but like... New York, yeah. That's crazy. New York's a
- 3:06Speaker 1: tough city, too. That felt great.
- 3:08Speaker 3: I was going to ask, was it difficult? And did
- 3:10Speaker 3: you have to think twice about doing this tour, right?
- 3:13Speaker 3: So many people have come up here recently saying selling
- 3:15Speaker 3: tickets have been very difficult with everything that's going on
- 3:17Speaker 3: in the world.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Have you guys had the same problem? Did you have
- 3:19Speaker 1: to think about that? I thought about it because I
- 3:24Speaker 1: don't want to be somebody that's just like, it's just
- 3:26Speaker 1: another thing we got to pay for. But I think
- 3:29Speaker 1: the show must go on, you know what I mean? Like,
- 3:31Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we'll find it in
- 3:33Speaker 1: the budget to spend something. Like if it's for us,
- 3:36Speaker 1: if it's entertainment. You know what I mean? So I
- 3:38Speaker 1: think the demand was there and we're going to come
- 3:41Speaker 1: meet the demand. You know, two weeks, ticket sales been
- 3:45Speaker 1: looking good. So, you know, we had to pull one city,
- 3:50Speaker 1: but it was like Salt Lake City. I mean, that
- 3:52Speaker 1: ain't really my demo note.
- 3:53Speaker 4: How'd that get on the table?
- 3:56Speaker 1: I don't even know. I think they wanted me to
- 3:58Speaker 1: go to Evangelize to the Mormons. Like, yo, come here.
- 4:00Speaker 1: You know what I mean? This black shit ain't what
- 4:02Speaker 1: you think it is.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Do people get mad?
- 4:06Speaker 4: Do they be like, well, Deontay, you have an anti-capitalist stance,
- 4:10Speaker 4: so why are you charging us, you know, for tour tickets?
- 4:13Speaker 1: I think we, I think, yeah, because they definitely charging
- 4:16Speaker 1: me to pull up. You know what I mean? And
- 4:18Speaker 1: I definitely got to pay my team. But I think
- 4:20Speaker 1: we got to, I mean, I think when we're using words,
- 4:23Speaker 1: we need to understand what they mean, too. I'm not
- 4:25Speaker 1: exploiting my audience. I mean, this is commerce. This is economics.
- 4:28Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. And I'm never going to be
- 4:31Speaker 1: in a position where I'm salty because people can't afford
- 4:35Speaker 1: to come out. Like, I understand the times we live in.
- 4:38Speaker 1: But I think we wait a year. We don't know
- 4:41Speaker 1: what a year can bring. We don't know what a
- 4:42Speaker 1: year can bring on social media. Like, shit, especially my opinionators,
- 4:46Speaker 1: they might try to get me up out of here
- 4:47Speaker 1: in a year. You know what I mean? But I
- 4:48Speaker 1: think just the time to do it is now. I
- 4:51Speaker 1: ain't letting the world dictate how I maneuver. You know
- 4:54Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, at the end of the day, shit,
- 4:56Speaker 1: they still selling they high-priced bullshit, so at least you
- 5:00Speaker 1: can get some quality things at a quality price with me.
- 5:03Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 5:04Speaker 3: How do you decide what you're going to do with
- 5:05Speaker 3: each show, each market? Does it change each show, each market,
- 5:07Speaker 3: or depending on what's going on in the world?
- 5:09Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, of course, there's going
- 5:11Speaker 1: to be some aspects of current events, but what I
- 5:15Speaker 1: formulated is this idea of people understanding that the country
- 5:19Speaker 1: we live in is a corporation. You know what I mean?
- 5:21Speaker 1: So as long as you participating in them day to day,
- 5:24Speaker 1: you a part of the corporation. You got your own
- 5:26Speaker 1: little cubicle. You know what I mean? So like if
- 5:28Speaker 1: you don't like the corporation, then retire from it or
- 5:30Speaker 1: resign from it. But it's really a mental resignation that
- 5:34Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Like a lot of times the issues,
- 5:38Speaker 1: let's take for example, like when you on Threads or
- 5:40Speaker 1: Instagram and you're like constantly clapping back at people you
- 5:43Speaker 1: don't agree with or you creating these think pieces. around
- 5:46Speaker 1: people that you don't agree with, it's like you giving
- 5:48Speaker 1: them all your energy, right? You know what I mean? Like,
- 5:51Speaker 1: you could be, you an intelligent person, but you missing
- 5:54Speaker 1: the intelligent part of, like, being quiet sometimes. Yeah. Or just, like,
- 5:58Speaker 1: letting people, they want your attention. Black people need to
- 6:00Speaker 1: understand how valuable our attention is online. Like, it's like
- 6:03Speaker 1: a legitimate currency.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Yeah, that book I keep recommending, Techno-Feudalism, What Killed Capitalism?
- 6:09Speaker 4: They tell you that the greatest cloud capital is.
- 6:11Speaker 2: It's conflict, and they monetize our emotions.
- 6:14Speaker 4: So every day, you can go in there right now,
- 6:16Speaker 4: and there's something that's going to get you there.
- 6:17Speaker 1: It's happening. It's happening. And it's like, you'll be on threads,
- 6:21Speaker 1: and it's like... I don't really get all the hype
- 6:26Speaker 1: about black Americans. Why do we even... You look up
- 6:31Speaker 1: their account, it'll be like a nigga from Bangladesh or
- 6:33Speaker 1: something like that. Damn. He live in Nepal. I mean,
- 6:39Speaker 1: you arguing with a robot. But I think the thing
- 6:41Speaker 1: is we do kind of have to get to a
- 6:44Speaker 1: point where we just learn how to take a beat. Like, okay,
- 6:47Speaker 1: you said something that pissed me off, but that's just
- 6:49Speaker 1: my initial reaction. If you did that And every aspect
- 6:52Speaker 1: of your life, literally all you're going to do is
- 6:54Speaker 1: spend time in conflict. And it's like, that's frustrating. That's draining, too.
- 6:58Speaker 1: And I think that's a bigger game, too, just to
- 7:01Speaker 1: keep you draining your energy or keep your energy directed
- 7:03Speaker 1: into something that's not helping you grow.
- 7:05Speaker 3: But when you realize the person that's actually doing it
- 7:06Speaker 3: is only doing it to create money, right? Because like
- 7:09Speaker 3: you said, I say some BS, I monetize it.
- 7:11Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 7:12Speaker 3: And then if I catch you, oh, I'm going to
- 7:13Speaker 3: keep doing it and keep doing it and keep talking.
- 7:15Speaker 3: And I'm going to make it even worse every time
- 7:16Speaker 3: because you're going to respond. People are going to come
- 7:18Speaker 3: to it. And then I'll make a couple thousand dollars
- 7:20Speaker 3: and I'm good.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people think the only time you can
- 7:22Speaker 1: have your attention as a currency is when you like
- 7:25Speaker 1: a celebrity. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know,
- 7:28Speaker 1: me and you know, if we respond to everything, everybody
- 7:31Speaker 1: in this room know, like if we respond to every
- 7:32Speaker 1: video somebody made about us, that'll be all we do. Yeah.
- 7:35Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So, but I think the
- 7:37Speaker 1: average everyday person doesn't understand how much their attention is
- 7:41Speaker 1: being farmed as currency as well. And your emotions is like,
- 7:45Speaker 1: it's not, it's gotten to a point where it's not
- 7:47Speaker 1: something that we put through a filter. You know what
- 7:49Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah. But you don't do that in your
- 7:51Speaker 1: real life. You know what I mean? Like, that's my
- 7:52Speaker 1: big issue. If somebody run down on you, try you
- 7:55Speaker 1: like that, you can be like, oh, brother, police is
- 7:57Speaker 1: out here. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's calm down.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Nobody's ever going to run down on you like that.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Nobody will ever talk to you in real life the
- 8:02Speaker 2: way they do.
- 8:02Speaker 1: That's my point. It's never going to happen. So then
- 8:04Speaker 1: it's not real. No. You know what I mean? Because
- 8:06Speaker 1: if people talk to you like that in real life, like,
- 8:09Speaker 1: you ain't getting nothing done. No. You'd be constantly... dealing
- 8:12Speaker 1: with the bail bondsman.
- 8:13Speaker 2: You'd be fighting every day.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Yeah. It'd just be you and the bail bondsman. Like,
- 8:16Speaker 1: all right, bro, I'll see you tomorrow at 12. Same time,
- 8:18Speaker 1: same place. Same time, same place.
- 8:20Speaker 2: How was your view of things changed?
- 8:21Speaker 4: Because I love having conversations with brothers like you because
- 8:24Speaker 4: literally you was driving the truck when?
- 8:26Speaker 2: Two years ago?
- 8:27Speaker 1: It was a year ago in April. It's only been
- 8:29Speaker 1: a year? Yeah. When I came here in December, it
- 8:35Speaker 1: was like six, seven months. Wow. Yeah. So, yeah, it's
- 8:39Speaker 1: just been over a year.
- 8:40Speaker 2: So, when you on the When you're on the outside
- 8:43Speaker 2: looking in, right?
- 8:44Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Things can look a lot different.
- 8:46Speaker 4: Now that you got more of a foot inside, how
- 8:48Speaker 4: do things look?
- 8:51Speaker 1: Look, man, the most beautiful thing is when you feel
- 8:54Speaker 1: like you got your time back and then you realize,
- 8:57Speaker 1: I just got to supplement that time with something else
- 8:59Speaker 1: because there ain't no guaranteed thing in this. So I
- 9:04Speaker 1: enjoy it because it's like, of course, I get to
- 9:06Speaker 1: wake up and do what I love. And not for nothing,
- 9:10Speaker 1: I just get to be myself.
- 9:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:12Speaker 1: I think a lot of times people put in positions
- 9:14Speaker 1: where you got to be a version of yourself or
- 9:16Speaker 1: a caricature, but I enjoy it, but I think it
- 9:19Speaker 1: gives me a lot more time to focus on the
- 9:20Speaker 1: things that's important. And, you know, at least try to remain, like,
- 9:26Speaker 1: in a space where I'm understanding and, like, connected to
- 9:29Speaker 1: people because, you know, I still go to the schools,
- 9:31Speaker 1: talk to the kids, but I'm, like, still in tune
- 9:33Speaker 1: with a lot of truck drivers and just kind of
- 9:35Speaker 1: getting to know them every day. Like, I know that
- 9:37Speaker 1: Diesel is, like, 650 right now. You know what I mean?
- 9:39Speaker 1: So it's like, because the homies will call me, like, Yeah,
- 9:42Speaker 1: I'm going to sell my truck because it just don't
- 9:44Speaker 1: make sense no more. Do you miss it? No.
- 9:48Speaker 4: No?
- 9:49Speaker 1: That shit is taxing on the body, man. And it's lonely.
- 9:52Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
- 9:53Speaker 1: You spend like two, three weeks alone in a truck,
- 9:56Speaker 1: you know, damn near in a, I'm going to sell.
- 9:57Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 9:58Speaker 2: No lot lizards to keep you company?
- 10:00Speaker 1: Nah, not me, man. Right. Not me, brother. You know
- 10:05Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 10:07Speaker 4: What?
- 10:07Speaker 1: Lot lizards? Nah, it's a real thing.
- 10:09Speaker 5: I know it's a real thing, but every trucker he
- 10:11Speaker 5: asks about lot lizards.
- 10:13Speaker 1: I mean, it's just one of them things, man. You
- 10:15Speaker 1: got to ask.
- 10:15Speaker 2: But you know what's so funny?
- 10:16Speaker 4: To your point, I've heard truck drivers say, man, sometimes
- 10:19Speaker 4: lot lizards just be company.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Meaning that they ain't.
- 10:24Speaker 4: They pull up at somewhere and they might just have
- 10:25Speaker 4: a conversation. Yeah, we all heard that story.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Yeah, just some company, man. Yeah, that's what a private
- 10:35Speaker 1: lap dance is, just some company, man.
- 10:37Speaker 5: How you feel about, I don't know if you've heard,
- 10:40Speaker 5: because I know you still tapped into that industry, all
- 10:43Speaker 5: the schools that's been getting shut down. Or whatever, for,
- 10:46Speaker 5: you know, illegally giving out these licenses to people who
- 10:48Speaker 5: can't read English, speak English.
- 10:50Speaker 1: I think it's a really good thing, to be honest,
- 10:52Speaker 1: because I was trucking in the pandemic and a lot
- 10:56Speaker 1: of independent truckers were starting to come up during the pandemic.
- 11:00Speaker 1: But then the rates started dropping because you do have
- 11:03Speaker 1: people that aren't licensed, you do have people that are
- 11:06Speaker 1: immigrants and whatnot that are taking the lowball offers, and
- 11:11Speaker 1: you're messing up the paper for everybody. Because the rate
- 11:14Speaker 1: used to be a certain rate, and it dropped down
- 11:15Speaker 1: so low where it's like, we're just out here paying
- 11:17Speaker 1: for gas at this point. But I do think also
- 11:20Speaker 1: it just causes for the roads to be a lot
- 11:23Speaker 1: safer because you see people doing U-turns on the expressway. Right. Yeah, man. Right.
- 11:29Speaker 2: And messing up the trends.
- 11:30Speaker 1: And not even that. They be drunk. It be a lot.
- 11:33Speaker 1: And it's not to, like, stereotype or single nobody out.
- 11:35Speaker 1: This is what's going on. You know what I mean? But, yeah, man,
- 11:39Speaker 1: I think it would be a good thing because that's
- 11:41Speaker 1: not something to just take a shortcut with. These trucks
- 11:44Speaker 1: can kill people. And then it's also, like, this is
- 11:46Speaker 1: the movement of our consumer economy. Like, this is the
- 11:50Speaker 1: lifeblood of our economy when it comes to transferring goods.
- 11:53Speaker 1: So that need to be done with care.
- 11:55Speaker 3: What's one thing that changed your mind from what Charlamagne
- 11:57Speaker 3: said that When you were a driver, you looked at
- 11:59Speaker 3: it one way, but now you're on the other side.
- 12:01Speaker 1: You look at it totally different. Ah, man, just, uh, Brad,
- 12:05Speaker 1: I used to be one of them, uh, yeah, that
- 12:08Speaker 1: nigga in Illuminati. Now they say you in it. Yeah,
- 12:13Speaker 1: now they say I'm in it. You know what I mean?
- 12:14Speaker 1: Take a little picture on BET. They're like, yeah, that heat,
- 12:17Speaker 1: they got him. They got him. I was like, when
- 12:22Speaker 1: you don't realize, like, sometimes you just laying in your
- 12:24Speaker 1: bed just watching, like, You know, lanterns or something like that.
- 12:27Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, this is... I mean, this still...
- 12:29Speaker 1: This celebrity, too. I'm chilling. I'm in here in my drawers.
- 12:32Speaker 1: And it's like, these regular people, bro. Yeah. Yeah, some
- 12:35Speaker 1: people probably making little backdoor deals, but that ain't none
- 12:38Speaker 1: of my business. You know what I mean? Do you.
- 12:40Speaker 1: But I think the humanity of people, like... It's one
- 12:43Speaker 1: thing to just change your perspective, because a lot of
- 12:46Speaker 1: times when people on social media or just in corporate
- 12:49Speaker 1: media in general, you kind of view them as larger
- 12:51Speaker 1: in life. You meet them, they just... your everyday person, bro.
- 12:54Speaker 1: They got their own problems, too. And they carrying it
- 12:57Speaker 1: with them. They just kind of, it's a lot more produced.
- 12:59Speaker 1: You know what I mean? My life ain't as produced
- 13:02Speaker 1: as some people, but some people's life is an entire production.
- 13:05Speaker 1: And that's why I look like that. You know what
- 13:06Speaker 1: I mean?
- 13:07Speaker 2: Land is so fire.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Man. I rock with it, man.
- 13:11Speaker 2: DC hasn't missed with TV shows yet.
- 13:13Speaker 4: I'm a Marvel guy, but the DC TV shows, Penguin, Peacemaker, Lantern.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Oh, my God. All right, man. Shout out to them
- 13:19Speaker 1: In It boys, man. Them In It boys, they get
- 13:21Speaker 1: a role. They go crazy, man.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Who the hell is In It boys?
- 13:24Speaker 1: In It, man. Bro. Shout out all my inning niggas
- 13:31Speaker 1: out there. Yo. Yo, one thing about them, boy. Boy,
- 13:37Speaker 1: you get them a roll.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Nah, they do.
- 13:39Speaker 1: They locking that roll down, man. I ain't gonna lie.
- 13:43Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Y'all be like, why? We
- 13:45Speaker 1: need more black men. Beat them. Beat the Brits, man.
- 13:48Speaker 1: You gotta beat the Brits.
- 13:49Speaker 2: They take the crabs more serious, I think.
- 13:51Speaker 1: I don't know if it's more serious. I think it's just,
- 13:53Speaker 1: you know, I think it get you leveled up. Like,
- 13:55Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You walk in, you talking real...
- 13:58Speaker 1: prim and proper, you really using the Queen's English, and
- 14:01Speaker 1: then you turn it on. They go from California now.
- 14:05Speaker 1: I think it's like to a producer, it's like, oh,
- 14:06Speaker 1: it's talented, bro. Rob Markman, Jr.
- 14:08Speaker 2: You think it's about the way the American actors carry themselves.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah, and then you ain't got to
- 14:11Speaker 1: worry about the yada-mean of it all. If a person
- 14:17Speaker 1: in America is really American, they tapping into American politics,
- 14:21Speaker 1: they tapping into black communal politics. You got to worry
- 14:24Speaker 1: about the internet, man. They just go get their bread
- 14:26Speaker 1: and get back over the lake.
- 14:27Speaker 4: Ain't too many American actors that speak out, though. I mean, historically,
- 14:30Speaker 4: even when I think about it, there hasn't been too
- 14:32Speaker 4: many that... Yeah, especially right now, man. You know, we
- 14:35Speaker 4: could use some voices. Some shit going on, man. How
- 14:38Speaker 4: do you feel about that? I keep seeing people say that.
- 14:40Speaker 4: I keep seeing people saying in videos, like, man, celebrities
- 14:42Speaker 4: need to use their voices.
- 14:44Speaker 2: It feel kind of... weak to me to be calling
- 14:47Speaker 2: a celebrity a judge.
- 14:47Speaker 1: I feel like the everyday person should use their voice more,
- 14:49Speaker 1: but I feel like.
- 14:50Speaker 2: I feel like we got midterms around the corner.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:52Speaker 4: So you should be using your voice to say, hey,
- 14:54Speaker 4: you should be checking for these elected officials because they line.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Up with our interest on this as opposed to, like,
- 14:59Speaker 2: what is a celebrity.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Going to do? I think the thing is, is, like,
- 15:02Speaker 1: the platform more so can bring awareness, but it ain't
- 15:04Speaker 1: going to change the deal. Because we got an interview
- 15:08Speaker 1: coming out Saturday where I'm talking to, like, a political analyst,
- 15:11Speaker 1: and the whole thing is about stressing around these midterms voting.
- 15:14Speaker 1: where you can register, how to register. And it's like
- 15:16Speaker 1: important to me because they do make a lot of
- 15:19Speaker 1: maneuvers to make sure you can't vote or, or they
- 15:22Speaker 1: make it difficult for you to do it. So there's
- 15:23Speaker 1: value in it. I mean, um, I don't even like the, the,
- 15:28Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is like our ancestors did
- 15:30Speaker 1: die for this too. So it's obviously important. Right. But
- 15:33Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing is like, if you want
- 15:36Speaker 1: to be civically engaged and you got to do that
- 15:38Speaker 1: with action, it can't just be taught. Um, the everyday person,
- 15:42Speaker 1: when they realize they hold a lot more power than,
- 15:44Speaker 1: a select few, will activate in a different way. But
- 15:47Speaker 1: I think how do celebrities accountable for bringing awareness to
- 15:54Speaker 1: things that, you know what I mean? You could also
- 15:56Speaker 1: equally bring awareness to, especially given the internet and how
- 15:59Speaker 1: it is, but also these people, you know, it would
- 16:01Speaker 1: be beautiful if they used their platforms to champion the
- 16:04Speaker 1: everyday person's plight, but they just don't. And a lot
- 16:06Speaker 1: of times you don't realize, man, these people work for
- 16:09Speaker 1: somebody that they probably can't. You know what I mean?
- 16:12Speaker 1: They probably got golden handcuffs, so I mean, I can
- 16:15Speaker 1: give everybody some grace, but I do also think, you know,
- 16:20Speaker 1: let's not do it when it's convenient for us. Let's
- 16:22Speaker 1: not try to fight the power and be like, yeah,
- 16:25Speaker 1: and I got this book coming out, too. You know
- 16:26Speaker 1: what I mean? So it's like, you can't just do
- 16:28Speaker 1: it when it's convenient or opportunistic.
- 16:30Speaker 2: We were just having that conversation about Colin Kaepernick.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:33Speaker 2: We literally were just having that conversation.
- 16:34Speaker 4: Just saying how, like, you know, he said that he
- 16:38Speaker 4: felt like everybody in the league should have protested.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Right?
- 16:42Speaker 4: And everybody should have went on strike. Sure, but you
- 16:44Speaker 4: also went on Higher Learning Podcast and said you never
- 16:46Speaker 4: called for a boycott or a protest. So my thing was,
- 16:50Speaker 4: you could have been maybe the leader that could have
- 16:51Speaker 4: sparked that off back then.
- 16:53Speaker 2: We only hear from you when you out here selling
- 16:55Speaker 2: us something.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a girl and I'm Saturday. You know
- 16:59Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm book tour. I'm moderating this book tour. Okay, dope.
- 17:03Speaker 1: But I think the thing is, too, is like, sometimes
- 17:07Speaker 1: when we make a bold move, we expect people to
- 17:10Speaker 1: kind of get in with us. And obviously people have
- 17:13Speaker 1: to think. And not be prompted. Like, just go ahead
- 17:15Speaker 1: and stand up.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 17:16Speaker 1: And call to actions matter, you know what I mean,
- 17:18Speaker 1: to your point. Like, if you would have said, you
- 17:19Speaker 1: know what I mean, I need air. Because, I mean,
- 17:21Speaker 1: that's the truth. You know what I mean? It's like 86%
- 17:24Speaker 1: black league. 70.
- 17:25Speaker 2: 70?
- 17:26Speaker 1: Yeah. 70 what? 76? No, I think it's just 70. Yeah,
- 17:30Speaker 1: I mean, that changes the game. I mean, you ain't
- 17:32Speaker 1: going to have a number of quarterbacks or kickers out there.
- 17:35Speaker 4: There's no one black person, I don't care if it's Jay-Z,
- 17:38Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick, who could stop 70% of players from protesting
- 17:43Speaker 4: if they wanted to protest. Even if it was just 30,
- 17:45Speaker 4: 40 who was like, yo, we ain't moving, nothing's moving.
- 17:47Speaker 1: I think when we look at America as it is,
- 17:50Speaker 1: it's like, and we talk about the working class, the
- 17:53Speaker 1: working class is the majority of America, right? So I think, obviously,
- 18:00Speaker 1: in theory... If we all was to just kind of
- 18:03Speaker 1: stand up and say, you know what? Until these things happen,
- 18:06Speaker 1: we ain't going back to work. Or until these things happen,
- 18:08Speaker 1: we boycotting this and that. But a lot of people
- 18:11Speaker 1: are going to be self-concerned about what they're going to lose.
- 18:14Speaker 1: And it's like, of course, in theory, if we all
- 18:17Speaker 1: collectively did it together, then none of us lose. We
- 18:20Speaker 1: only stand to win as long as we got demands
- 18:22Speaker 1: in place, right? But I think everybody thinking about themselves,
- 18:26Speaker 1: like this is kind of like a very individualistic society
- 18:30Speaker 1: where The next person is like, okay, I see how
- 18:32Speaker 1: this could benefit us in six months, but this could
- 18:36Speaker 1: take away a lot for me today. And a lot
- 18:37Speaker 1: of people think about today and today only.
- 18:39Speaker 2: I don't need working class people to do it.
- 18:41Speaker 4: When we're talking about these leagues like the NFL and
- 18:44Speaker 4: the NBA, we just need a select few of those
- 18:47Speaker 4: guys that are making multi-millions of dollars to say we
- 18:50Speaker 4: ain't moving nothing.
- 18:51Speaker 1: All right. Well, that's real. And I agree with you.
- 18:53Speaker 1: And I think they should. But then they put people
- 18:56Speaker 1: like Kyrie on the cross. They put Jalen Browns on
- 18:58Speaker 1: the cross. They put a Colin Kaepernick on the cross
- 19:00Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't want to be on
- 19:01Speaker 1: that cross.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Well, I agree with that.
- 19:04Speaker 1: They keep pushing. And you see what's possible when you
- 19:08Speaker 1: just keep pushing. Because they're going to make it. I mean,
- 19:11Speaker 1: it's a tale as old as time. Like, you take
- 19:13Speaker 1: the most powerful and you make the example out of them.
- 19:15Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And then everybody else tend
- 19:16Speaker 1: to fall in line. You know what I mean? That's
- 19:20Speaker 1: that old Willie Lynch thing. That's why you need more
- 19:22Speaker 1: than one. You need more than one. And that's like,
- 19:25Speaker 1: I think impulsively sometimes these things happen. If we think
- 19:31Speaker 1: about the whole Hurricane Katrina, Kanye moment, that was in post.
- 19:36Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He just knew in that moment,
- 19:38Speaker 1: I got to say this. And if Chris Tucker would
- 19:40Speaker 1: have came behind him, be like, yeah, nigga. This nigga's right.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Chris Tucker was like, oh shit. I'm trying to get Russia. 3.
- 19:50Speaker 1: I ain't going to get it like this. But I
- 19:53Speaker 1: think in that moment, it got to be a thing.
- 19:56Speaker 1: I think some proper planning would be a good place.
- 20:00Speaker 1: But we do all of our organizing, supposedly organizing online.
- 20:05Speaker 1: And back in the day, the reason why things were
- 20:07Speaker 1: a lot more powerful is because we had communion, and
- 20:10Speaker 1: the church played a big part in that communion, but
- 20:13Speaker 1: our businesses played a big part in that communion too.
- 20:16Speaker 1: So when we can all gather at the barbershop and
- 20:17Speaker 1: talk about what our political strategy is or what our
- 20:19Speaker 1: strategy is moving forward, that's how unions work, you know
- 20:22Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 20:23Speaker 4: I agree, and you know, it's a lot of beef
- 20:25Speaker 4: that be behind the scenes, right? And the beef that
- 20:27Speaker 4: happens behind the scenes, then people start putting walls up.
- 20:30Speaker 4: And you can't put walls up in those moments, man.
- 20:32Speaker 4: Regardless of if you and a person are having an issue,
- 20:35Speaker 4: you got this activist next to you, this organizer next
- 20:37Speaker 4: to you, We need that sense of community. So now, Cap,
- 20:41Speaker 4: you know what to do. Somebody can show you. Let's
- 20:43Speaker 4: show you how to lead this protest.
- 20:44Speaker 1: And you also, too, like, that's just a thing of, like,
- 20:46Speaker 1: you seen what happened to me and I'm still good.
- 20:48Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, the honesty is, like,
- 20:51Speaker 1: he lost a lot in the moment, but in the
- 20:52Speaker 1: long term, he gained a lot. Yeah, so it's like,
- 20:55Speaker 1: I think the thing is, is, like, you need, this
- 20:57Speaker 1: is why unions have always been important, because we can
- 21:00Speaker 1: plan and organize. Like, if we leave it to a vote, Charlamagne,
- 21:04Speaker 1: you might not get what you want on this vote,
- 21:06Speaker 1: but that don't mean Because you lost the vote that
- 21:08Speaker 1: you don't get with the program. Because the next time
- 21:10Speaker 1: when you do win the vote, you're going to want
- 21:12Speaker 1: me to get with the program. So it's like, if
- 21:14Speaker 1: we're going to be in a community, even when things
- 21:17Speaker 1: ain't exactly what we want, if the community has decided
- 21:20Speaker 1: this was best, we got to go with the community.
- 21:22Speaker 1: That's the point of it. Being a community is not
- 21:24Speaker 1: an individual plight. But a lot of people are just
- 21:28Speaker 1: like a lot of self-concern. And then the social media
- 21:30Speaker 1: kind of reinforces that. It's my page. You know what
- 21:33Speaker 1: I mean? You hear people say that. It's my page.
- 21:34Speaker 1: I can post what I want. I can block who
- 21:36Speaker 1: I want. I can do what I want. So it
- 21:37Speaker 1: kind of curate this like false sense of security. When
- 21:40Speaker 1: the reality is, it's like, nothing is really have, like
- 21:43Speaker 1: that security is fickle. You know what I mean? It's
- 21:46Speaker 1: because it's going to be your page when they try
- 21:49Speaker 1: to cancel you too.
- 21:50Speaker 4: They can turn you off tomorrow if they want to.
- 21:53Speaker 4: I want to go back to something you said about
- 21:55Speaker 4: celebrity because I thought that was important too. Like, I
- 21:57Speaker 4: get sick of people pushing celebrities just to say something
- 22:02Speaker 4: or just, you know, just give a shout out, say
- 22:04Speaker 4: whatever the slogan is and then I see them applauding
- 22:08Speaker 4: people when they do it.
- 22:09Speaker 2: They'll applaud to Miss Rachel. They'll applaud to Macklemore.
- 22:12Speaker 4: I like it when you actually look and see what
- 22:14Speaker 4: Miss Rachel actually has done.
- 22:16Speaker 2: I mean, she be on that.
- 22:19Speaker 4: She's on it. She does real humanitarian efforts. She's about action. Macklemore,
- 22:24Speaker 4: when he comes out, he's like, yo, I'm pledging a
- 22:26Speaker 4: million dollars to these Palestinian relief efforts. That, to me,
- 22:29Speaker 4: is what matters more than just getting them to say, yo,
- 22:32Speaker 4: a shout out.
- 22:32Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing is this. In a situation
- 22:35Speaker 1: like that, Like you said, look at what people do.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Because people that are for the people have always been
- 22:40Speaker 1: for the people. You know what I mean? Some people,
- 22:42Speaker 1: every now and then, they might wake up with a conscience.
- 22:45Speaker 1: But for the most part, the people that it's like
- 22:46Speaker 1: community for, that care about people at a larger scale,
- 22:50Speaker 1: have always been like that. You know what I mean?
- 22:52Speaker 1: And like you said, you can see it in their resume.
- 22:54Speaker 1: And those are the people, like, if that's what you
- 22:56Speaker 1: want out of your celebrity, that's the people you should
- 22:58Speaker 1: champion and support. Because they do... sacrifice a lot. You
- 23:03Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, they're making it ain't no
- 23:05Speaker 1: easy bed to lay in because you do lose a
- 23:07Speaker 1: lot of the corporate gigs. You do lose a lot
- 23:09Speaker 1: of your brand deals and the sponsorships. And, like, it
- 23:12Speaker 1: is important for the people to champion behind those people,
- 23:14Speaker 1: but it's also important to accept motherfuckers that ain't going
- 23:17Speaker 1: to do it. You know what I mean?
- 23:19Speaker 3: I also think, like, what Sean and me said is, pause, pause, pause.
- 23:22Speaker 3: I think the mouth is just as important as the money, right?
- 23:24Speaker 2: I said pause. The reason I said that.
- 23:25Speaker 1: I mean, you did, but it was... I mean, yeah,
- 23:28Speaker 1: you could have just said it. You brought my attention
- 23:31Speaker 1: to it, and now it's like, that is crazy.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Sometimes it might get you some money.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Fuck y'all.
- 23:35Speaker 2: I ain't fucking with y'all no more.
- 23:39Speaker 1: It's time to be fake deep over here.
- 23:40Speaker 2: You should have just did it. Nah, because I see
- 23:42Speaker 2: the way he was about to look at me. He
- 23:44Speaker 2: was about to look at me.
- 23:45Speaker 1: I was just saying, sometimes, you.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Know, saying what you need to hear and letting the
- 23:49Speaker 3: masters hear you is just as important as donating money
- 23:51Speaker 3: for people.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Nah, it is. I think the thing is, like, if
- 23:54Speaker 1: we agree that attention is currency when it comes to
- 23:56Speaker 1: people farming your emotions, then it's just as important when
- 24:00Speaker 1: it comes to supporting an effort. You know what I mean? Like,
- 24:03Speaker 1: I think a lot of times the celebrity kind of
- 24:07Speaker 1: take the place of the everyday person and what they
- 24:10Speaker 1: feel like they can't do. You know what I mean?
- 24:12Speaker 1: But it's like, if you can go viral for criticizing them, sometimes, like,
- 24:17Speaker 1: That is more of a part of the game. Drama
- 24:20Speaker 1: and gossip does win. That's why it's important to get
- 24:23Speaker 1: creative with your hooks. Because some people will create a
- 24:27Speaker 1: reel or a TikTok and you think it's going to
- 24:29Speaker 1: be messy and they're really promoting something positive. So it's
- 24:32Speaker 1: like you kind of can do the bait and switch
- 24:33Speaker 1: in some hands. But it's like none of us got
- 24:35Speaker 1: all this shit figured out. I just think it's important
- 24:39Speaker 1: to support the people who are trying to figure it out.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Especially if that I'm figuring out means They in the,
- 24:45Speaker 1: by and large, bigger supporter community. Because the more, like
- 24:49Speaker 1: bro was saying about the technocrats, the more they get power.
- 24:52Speaker 1: It's like they use all their free time to figure
- 24:55Speaker 1: out how they going to kill everybody. It's odd, the behavior.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Because I don't know what the end game is. You
- 25:01Speaker 1: know what I mean? I disagree with what Envy said.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Because I don't want everybody just speaking for the sake
- 25:07Speaker 1: of speaking. Because then we start giving props to... the
- 25:10Speaker 1: people for the basics.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Especially when they're a white person. It's like when you
- 25:14Speaker 4: see a white person do a basic dance and you're.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Like, oh! We do gotta stop inviting people to, like,
- 25:20Speaker 1: that whole little thing.
- 25:21Speaker 3: But Macklemore's speech was more powerful than the money.
- 25:24Speaker 2: Listen, shout out to Macklemore.
- 25:25Speaker 4: Shout out to Macklemore, but Macklemore said free Palestine, and
- 25:28Speaker 4: I'm seeing people posting, they got him on the cover
- 25:30Speaker 4: of Time magazine saying.
- 25:31Speaker 2: He the man of the year. As if we haven't
- 25:32Speaker 2: seen Dolce do that.
- 25:34Speaker 1: As if we haven't.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Seen SZA do the same thing. As if Kalani didn't
- 25:39Speaker 2: risk it all doing the same thing.
- 25:40Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to keep it a billion, too. Like,
- 25:43Speaker 1: that didn't make sense to me, man. Nigga been hollering
- 25:46Speaker 1: about free Palestine for, like, years, brother. See what I'm saying? Years. Like,
- 25:49Speaker 1: Zach Fox been doing that. Earl Sweatshirt be doing that. Like,
- 25:52Speaker 1: it's a lot of, it's a, everybody you mentioned, like,
- 25:55Speaker 1: it wasn't, the bravest stance.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Especially now.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Nigga, you know what I mean? When Kalani did it,
- 26:02Speaker 1: it was like, oh. You know what I mean? It
- 26:04Speaker 1: wasn't the craziest thing, but it's like, yeah, you know,
- 26:06Speaker 1: we love to give white people some props when they
- 26:09Speaker 1: just doing some everyday. Like, I think, for whatever reason,
- 26:12Speaker 1: we make it seem like white people are making the
- 26:13Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice. Like, nigga, you was on tour with Ed Sheeran, nigga.
- 26:22Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
- 26:25Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if you the man of the year,
- 26:27Speaker 1: but like, nah, shout out, my nigga. Nah, I'm good
- 26:31Speaker 1: on you, my nigga. Salute, I respect it, but goddamn,
- 26:34Speaker 1: y'all posting him with that, I respect it.
- 26:35Speaker 4: I saw Dale usually post him on the Time magazine,
- 26:39Speaker 4: man of the year, I'm like, come on.
- 26:40Speaker 1: That's a little too much. Hey, man, them niggas ain't
- 26:42Speaker 1: going to get a run over here. You know what
- 26:48Speaker 1: I'm saying? Because, like, what's your man's name? Who just
- 26:51Speaker 1: donated a whole bunch to the public school system? Was
- 26:56Speaker 1: it Jalen Brown or was it Jalen Hurst? Jalen Hurst.
- 26:59Speaker 1: I mean, that's way bigger than that. Word. They're closing
- 27:05Speaker 1: these schools down in this city. And so, like, I
- 27:08Speaker 1: think it's also just another, like, man.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Who knows, bro?
- 27:12Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That could have been a meeting.
- 27:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:16Speaker 1: It could have been a meeting.
- 27:17Speaker 2: Hey, man.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Macklemore, man. We ain't talked about you since the thrift
- 27:19Speaker 1: shop song, nigga. Like, what we gonna do? I was like, too,
- 27:24Speaker 1: how this nigga get the gig with Ed Sheeran?
- 27:26Speaker 2: That's what I... Never mind.
- 27:27Speaker 1: That's his guy. I think that's his guy.
- 27:29Speaker 2: That is his guy. I don't know.
- 27:30Speaker 1: What's his hits? I don't know. What's his hits?
- 27:32Speaker 2: What's his hits? I didn't want to make this a mess.
- 27:35Speaker 2: It wasn't a Macklemore bass. I'm just talking shit.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Do your thing right now, man. Free Palestine, man.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Salute to Jalen Hurts.
- 27:42Speaker 4: He did donate $ 600, 000 to upgrade the.
- 27:45Speaker 2: HVAC and cooling systems at Northeast High School.
- 27:47Speaker 1: That's big. Shout out to him. That's big. Go get
- 27:50Speaker 1: your Jalen Hurts jersey right now. Word. That's right.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Well, Deontay, we appreciate you for joining us. Tell them
- 27:56Speaker 2: how to get tickets on the tour.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Man, go to DeontayKyle.com. You can either forward
- 28:01Speaker 1: slash tour or just go to the website and hit
- 28:02Speaker 1: the tour tab. It's available right there. We got dates
- 28:05Speaker 1: well into February of 2027. So it's spaced out. You
- 28:10Speaker 1: got time. You got time to find a babysitter. You
- 28:12Speaker 1: got time to tell Granny to come pull up. You
- 28:14Speaker 1: know what I mean? But yeah, DeontayKyle.com forward slash tour.
- 28:18Speaker 1: All the tickets there are available. And go through us
- 28:20Speaker 1: because y'all go to these little third-party websites and be
- 28:22Speaker 1: getting taxed. And sometimes your joints don't work the right way.
- 28:26Speaker 1: We got all our legitimate websites. You know what I mean?
- 28:30Speaker 1: You can get it from at the best price.
- 28:32Speaker 2: I wonder how they do that. They be doing it.
- 28:34Speaker 2: But all the comedian shows, too.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Scammers know no bounds, you know what I mean? A
- 28:38Speaker 1: scam is a scam, baby. They're going to get it
- 28:40Speaker 1: in one way or the other. That's right. Appreciate y'all
- 28:42Speaker 1: having me.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Make sure to subscribe to the Grits and Eggs podcast
- 28:44Speaker 2: as well, man.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Absolutely, man. Appreciate y'all having me.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Look at the Big Ice Cup cat out there.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out my boy, Big Ice Cup cat on
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- 28:52Speaker 2: There you go. It's Deontay Kyle. It's The Breakfast Club.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 28:55Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
- 28:55Speaker 4: You all finished or you all done?