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A Real No Limit Soldier: Mr. Serv-On · Tha Smoking Section Podcast

• Smokey Da Bandit: Back, welcome back, welcome back. Y'all already know what time it is. Welcome back to the Smoke and Section Podcast. And today, we got a real one stepping into the section. We talking New Orleans. We talking that legendary no-limit era. We talking gold tanks, platinum records, classic albums, and that movement that helped change Southern hip hop forever. My guest today was right there in the middle of it all, from life insurance to the next level. He wasn't just watching history happen. He was part of the history. And today, we're going beyond the tank. We're talking about the stories behind the music, Master P, the No Limit Soldiers, Cash Money, the Lendendary Veses, the Highs, the Lows, The Business, the Brotherhood, and everything that came with being a part of one of the most iconic movements hip hop has ever seen. So light something, pour something, get comfortable. And lock the fuck in. And and before you you you get all ready to hear this history, make sure you like, subscribe, hit the thumbs up button. You know all the things we gotta do when we podcast and stuff. Cause today the smokes the smoking section got a no limit soldier in the building. So man, make some noise for the one and only Mr. Servone. What's happening? Mr serv on: was happening with. Smokey Da Bandit: Mr. Servant, how you feeling, man? Mr serv on: I'm alive, bro. Smokey Da Bandit: Yes, Yes indeed, man. It's a honor to have you on my podcast, brother. I appreciate you, man, for taking your time out to come on my platform. Mr serv on: Guys like you man, they'll be proud of you so we have black media now. Smokey Da Bandit: Yes, sir. Yeah. Yes, sir. Whatever we could do to keep the living legends getting their flowers, that's what we're here for. So, this is the smoker Mr serv on: South Film. Smokey Da Bandit: section. I must ask, do you partake? Mr serv on: yeah, once in a while man. I do Smokey Da Bandit: Every once in a while. Mr serv on: it at home man. I don't like being out in the boat, you know, all going. Smokey Da Bandit: I feel that I feel that. Yeah. I feel that. Well Mr serv on: it out. Smokey Da Bandit: I'm about I'm about to stimulate my mind. So we can get into it. Mr serv on: I didn't know that's where I put my, my little smoke. Smokey Da Bandit: You put it up? All right, so Mr. Servone. Before the world knew Mr. Serv On and before the tank, who were you? And what was life like growing up in New Orleans? Mr serv on: The Maroon uptown where you say block with UNLV come from. That was the first thought is on cash money to me. That really kicked a lot off the cash money. Same corner and block from Tyler Perry to Billionaire. People don't believe you know you're up in the hood. laughing, tell people to play with them. don't if that always grew up on the corner where we said he wasn't hanging on the corner, but he was around. Smokey Da Bandit: Tyler Perry? What? Mr serv on: Emmit Terry Jr. it's there. He was out there when we was outside. didn't put a pick in nothing bad, but he was outside. So he grew up around all the murders. Smokey Da Bandit: wow. wow. That's that's what so you wow, you grew up kinda with Tyler Perry. And you from Mr serv on: that. Smokey Da Bandit: what part of what what part of New Orleans you from? You say up uptown? Mr serv on: I found there was six in Barão, three blocks from the Magnolia, Smokey Da Bandit: Shout out to the third ward. Mr serv on: about seven blocks from the Cali, about in the Malfamines, and then the St. Thomas, about ten blocks from the St. Thomas. So we were kind of in the middle of all the projects. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, I was about to say that you was in the middle of and Newton damn near knew everybody, huh? Okay. what got you into to rapping? Mr serv on: always, you know what saying to me, you know what saying, honestly, man, I was always deep into it, man, and it's crazy, man, what you think that motivated me. You I was in the military, I was in the Navy, and so I was stationed in Norfolk, Virginia, and I had a homie from New York. off. And first motivation part was I was freestyling in Brooklyn and a dude was like, you nights where you from? I was in New Orleans and he was like disrespectful in so many ways. was like, man, ain't nothing but murder and Mardi Gras. what I had to see in a tool I'm using. the song with big pun in the video and why they didn't know I wanted to do it in New York because I told them I And then the second time, because when I was in Virginia, a friend of mine was rapping, and he kind of wouldn't let me get in the studio with him. And it was the same studio that Naughty By Nature would come through, Jay-Z would come through, you know, and stuff like that. you know, and Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: I was at a KRS-1 show, and I just watched what he did on stage, Smokey Da Bandit: was was hip hop a dream of yours that you that you was trying to achieve or was it something else? Mr serv on: I mean, basketball was first, because I had scholarships. Because I ended up at Norfolk State, and I got put out of Norfolk State. And I was put in a program where I could, you know, was going to get two years. And I was given a choice to go into the military. And if I stayed out of trouble for, you know, my four year period, you know, that would be starting for my record. You know what I'm saying? So I got in the military. rap was always something I wanted to do because I was a big LL fan. I wanted to be, his name was James Todd Smith, name was Corey Smith. You I used to wet a damn, my pants leg, my left pants leg up and push up body, you know, I wanted to be LL. Smokey Da Bandit: You still swole too, you still swole, I see. Mr serv on: Yeah, man. yeah, man, the thing about it was crazy. And with my last fuel of motivation was I had a girlfriend and she, I rapped LL's song, Bad at Her Brother's Party, right? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: And she said, I embarrassed her and said, you'll never be a rapper. And it was like, okay, and broke up with me and everything. Cause I say I embarrassed her. And so it was Smokey Da Bandit: Wow. Mr serv on: like, for me, was like, I'ma show you better not to tell you. So for me, you know, that was me, you know what I'm saying? mean, before no limit, was, you know, after I got out of the military, because I ended up getting put out of the military three days before I got out for drug distribution. yeah, I was on the East Coast hacking up, man. And I went to, I was in the Gulf War, you know what I'm saying? So I tell people I know Smokey Da Bandit: Damn for real? Mr serv on: what real war is like, yeah. If I take this off, Smokey Da Bandit: Hello, salute. Thank you. Thank you. Mr serv on: you're a c***. I lost sight of one of my eyes because of when I was in the Gulf War. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: you know what mean? And then when I came home, I got into other shit because people don't know what Mr. Servon really means. Servon means surviving every racist vendetta and slave don't n***a. Smokey Da Bandit: Say that again. Say that again. Mr serv on: having every racist vendetta enslaved on niggas. Smokey Da Bandit: Ooh. I didn't I never knew that. That's hard. Mr serv on: So I had, yeah, and Mr. Skull Face was my actual favorite, number one out, so you got Mr. Skull Face, Mr. Servant. And so when I got home, man, it'd be funny when I look at life today, I got home after being put out the military and I went to Leavenworth, Kansas. I went set for a minute on the military side, as we call it, university for 11 months. And so when I got released and I came home, something different man and that's what a friend of mine he no longer alive used to call me servo because everybody talk about scamming and whatever I'm not proud of it but I was running credit cards and checks man my only fault scamming was I'm talking about 93 94 me and my my team of people man we was the reason they still making you sell your ID when you wrote a check because Thanks, we ran through. Everybody, if you own the clothing store, I call you and say, man, look what you need out here. And I come in your store, cameras wasn't working, we run in check straight ahead, get you what you need, get me what I need, and then I go sell it to the hood. So my friends to call me Servon. And where the Servon came from, MC8, from California, remember he Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: had a song called, he said, straight up minute, he said, gotta get my Servon, but nigga. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: So, that was my first song I ever made with that hook, gotta get my third one, but niggas gonna hit me though. And a lot of people in my area, I was that guy, if you wanted to get your podcast equipment, and you tell me it was 900, I'll tell you you gave me 400, and the next day you'll have all of it. You know what Smokey Da Bandit: Wow. Mr serv on: I'm So I got deep into that until a point, and KL told me I had to stop KL. So that's when I got deeper into rap. Smokey Da Bandit: Wow. Well thank you for serving the country. Appreciate. you ain't just a no limit soldier, you a real motherfucking soldier. Mr serv on: know it for real, dawg. That's why I Smokey Da Bandit: In the Gulf War. Mr serv on: tell them young boys, y'all tell them at Wolf. Nah, I tell you real Wolf. I think that sometimes I don't sleep, you still see it, you know what I'm saying? So, and been through it. So yeah, man, so yeah, I was in the Gulf War. Smokey Da Bandit: That's what's up. That's what I know you very knowledgeable. I be watching you on Instagram and you always, trying to uplift us our community and give insight and on s how we should look at certain things. And you you yeah, you I I like the way you think and I like how you operate and I like how you try to uplift us. The community, everybody that's Mr serv on: But I have... Smokey Da Bandit: in tune. Mr serv on: Okay. You know, we didn't know we was gonna be, I don't know no rapper, but they was gonna be a role model. And we ended up being role models for a lot of young people, man. you know, we was mad and angry also. So I look at it like I might've been part of the problem and I wanted to be part of the solution. And for now I want to show, you know, intelligence of a black man. Like we not all thugs, we not all criminals, we not all deadbeats, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, when I do go, you know, and speak. whatever we're not and do my less talk reserved thing. I just try to give a more open-minded, perspective on things because I believe that all our black people, man, we're so intelligent, we're so creative, we are the culture of the world. If we say it, the world says it. If we wear it, the world wears it. If we buy it, the world buys it. Whatever we do, the whole world do it. people Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: say, when you say that, sir, give me a show. I'll show you better than I can tell you. All right. I got a Hummer sitting on 28th Woodgrain TV in the dash, right? That's a Cash Money song, right? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: Go get a SUV. You go buy a SUV, what they try to tell you, sitting on 28th, it's got Woodgrain in it. You got the infotainment, which is really a TV in the dash. That's a Cash Money song. They did, you gotta think about it. They changed how they made cars. I called it to Woodgrain. I think Louis Vuitton would have made the ugliest tentacles I ever seen but we wear them. If we wear them, everybody wear them. You you understand what I'm saying? Puffy. I've been knew about Serac because I was overseas. You know what I'm saying? Serac didn't sell nothing. Puffy put his name on it. Serac a billion dollar company. Tupac said Hennessy and Alize. And Alize was just a sweet little juice and everybody was drinking ENJ. I'm talking about the billion dollar companies now. know what saying? Whatever we do, you know what saying? The world, we're the culture of the world and I want our young people to start understanding their greatness and their creation and you know who they are. So it's like if you can see me with these platinum things in my mouth and and I'm speaking of intelligence, that's letting them know like... We are the chosen ones and we gotta start acting like it. I just try to let them see like, okay, he is rapper that was gangsta and hard, but this man get up here in the own businesses and he speaks the way they say we should speak. And I want them all to be able to do that because the black, young black people, we are the scariest entity in this life, right? Especially the whites and women. Cause we got Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Yeah. Mr serv on: hearts like a lion, we don't fear nothing. of nobody but we intelligent as fuck. When you got intelligence in the heart like a lion, nothing can stop you and I want them to learn and learn that it's ways to do stuff, it's ways to accomplish what you need to accomplish. You don't always have to be right, killer and gangster and everything else, you know, so I just want to show them a different side. That's why I speak like that and talk like Smokey Da Bandit: When did you realize you could really rap? Like when did you realize like this is what's gonna do this for me? Mr serv on: Man, the greatest gift I could ever get was, we was in Oakland, California when I first got with Pete. And we was at Bunky Fat Graphics, And he thought he was in there. And, you know, I was doing my thing, you know, doing the songs that Pete brought me up there to do. And, you know, I had confidence, but I knew my style was different. And he thought he heard the song and Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. It is. Mr serv on: he thought, to ask Pete, like, who is that? And he was like, that's him right there. said, man, you better put him out. He's a nice little boy. And to get that respect from him, I'm like, yeah, I got something. I got something. I got something. I got something. You know what I'm saying? And so, and then it became therapy. That's why my thumbs are like they are. and they always similar to skull face because I love skull face. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, you you gotta you do a lot of storytelling. Yeah. Mr serv on: So, but I realized that man, I got something. coming from somebody like him, you know, you didn't press them by in a virtual zone. And tell Pete man, we gotta put him out and Pete was gonna put me out anyway. it was like, that was the next two days. Pete started working, getting me working on the covers and everything like on occasion time. was the one that made me feel like I know I Smokey Da Bandit: E forty. Mr serv on: when he gave that thumbs up man that meant a lot man that's somebody Smokey Da Bandit: You know what's crazy? I just interviewed his homie, Big O' Measy. You know him? Mr serv on: of him yet. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, he he been like his hype man and and he he an artist on sick witted and all that. That's crazy. Mr serv on: Yeah, 40, man. Smokey Da Bandit: Eve shout out to E40, man. Now, I earlier you already said that you like, you know, LL was ba probably like your most inf influential rapper that influenced you. Mr serv on: was in LL, was like, both in them neck and neck. Pock is my Smokey Da Bandit: God facing L. Mr serv on: favorite, Pock is my favorite. But Pock, at that time, Pock was still coming, was revolutionary, he was with Digital Underground. you Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: won't see when I started and my love for it, was LL and Skullface. Smokey Da Bandit: That's what's up, man. Hell yeah. What was the New Orleans hip hop scene like before the rest of the world started paying attention to the city? Mr serv on: It was strong man, it depends on when you're saying hip hop like if you talk hip hop like Mac was yeah okay rap. Smokey Da Bandit: Rap. Yeah. Rap. Mr serv on: it was strong, was street, was gangster man. had the great Gregory D who was first to get a deal. Warren Mays I think he was another one first to get a national deal, bless him. So you know we had some we had some had some artists that was making some noise. You had what Fiend was that big boy record that cash money coming doing what they was doing man juvenile was making noise even before cash money, so it was it was real but Gregory D We had all this Gregory D He was that one man. He was that one that that was going national You know what I'm saying? You start saying man we can make it out here Yeah, Smokey Da Bandit: was the first you said he was the first to go national? Mr serv on: yeah, you know that's one of my man, I'm one of my rap idols, you know what saying? In my top 20 lists and stuff like that, man. But the orders was kind it was, it was treatment. You know, because New Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: Orleans is... Because you if you know about the great migration, know when the civil rights Louisiana that's why Louisiana people got Family in Cali so Louisiana people migrated to LA so we will catch like LA well We just didn't gangbang. You know saying we we bang was you or sir was several more night more, you know? Smokey Da Bandit: Ninth board, yeah. Shout out to the ninth board. Mr serv on: you yeah, so, you know, but It was, was murder capital several years, nothing to be proud of, but that'll tell you how the rap scene was. You know what saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: We had some hard, men. You know, man, you name them. The L Rob, the Black Robbin' Hood, was as hard as you got for several wars. L.O.G., he was from downtown. M.P. Dick on the West Bank. mean, scene was hard as stuff, you know, coming up hard as hell. You know what I mean? Got Gregory D. We, know, Tim Smoove, one of the best. ever do it, you know what I'm saying, really blew up also. know, and mystical stuff going up. So we had, you know, mystical go up what, about seven, eight blocks from me. So he was uptown too. You know, and then we Smokey Da Bandit: Did you? Mr serv on: saw it during the Gulf War. We was both over there at the same time. Smokey Da Bandit: So you came in solo, right? Like did you know did you grow up with any other these other artists like Mystical and P? Did you grow up with them or did you just run into them with through the music? Mr serv on: I, you know, like Mr. Golf Course, know, like I said, I guess I'm named the big P from North. I grew up, I grew up with baby from Cash Money. We went to grammar school together. Yeah, we played, Smokey Da Bandit: You grew up with baby? Beatrice? Mr serv on: yeah, B32, Beatrice baby, Bubba, whatever you want to it, But that's, he Brian to me, you know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: I grew up with, we went to grammar school together. We played A-U basketball together. You know what I'm saying? Played baseball together. A lot of people don't know about Baby, because Baby walks slowly, talks slow laid back, just gangsta of all, Man, that boy was a hell of an athlete, dawg. He was a hell of a basketball player. Put that, put that, Smokey Da Bandit: What? Mr serv on: man, you put that fucking football uniform on him, you knock all the snot out your fucking nose. He Smokey Da Bandit: I can't even I can't even see him playing sports. Mr serv on: played shortstop baseball, basketball, he played point guard and two guard, you know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Wow. Mr serv on: Yeah, I mean, baby was that, man. was family, man. That's like, and his brother, Al, just got arrested. you know, yeah, me and baby grew up together, and his brother, Tigger Slim, was older than us. You know, he used to walk me home from school. I was much younger than his brother, Slim. Smokey Da Bandit: Hello. Mr serv on: Yeah. Slim Smokey Da Bandit: Damn. Mr serv on: was good people. Smokey Da Bandit: So did baby really have a million dollars at fifteen years old? Mr serv on: Yeah. I think that boy had Smokey Da Bandit: Whoa! Mr serv on: money. That boy had money. In high school, he had money. He had money, He Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: dressed like it. We was in the Catholic school, know, where you have, we were all brown khakis, right? I Smokey Da Bandit: Mm-hmm. Mr serv on: think I never wore the same pants or khakis shirt the same day. He never wore look like the same shoes or whatever the same day. had watch on. I'm talking about 4th, 5th, 6th grade, watch y'all. He always has. Smokey Da Bandit: So I know y'all did the verses, but prior to the verses, was y'all relationship still strong, ha Mr serv on: We hadn't talked, you know what saying? But when we talk like, know, it's, know, man, I love you. Love you too, man. You know what I'm saying? That's a brother, man. Smokey Da Bandit: Some quick yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr serv on: For me, you gotta think, I'm here on cash running, I'm on the limit. know, P had ours and Baby had to cash money. So for me, I'm like, you know, it's in the middle, because P is somebody that basically raised me. You know, that was Big Brother, where I used to follow around, but then I went to school with Baby. So now you gotta look at on my end, you know what saying? Smokey Da Bandit: I was about to ask, how how did that feel, nigga? Mr serv on: Even though it wasn't beef, they just, them two didn't see eye to eye, but it wasn't beef like everybody was talking about. was one of them things where it was like, if, I don't get in the middle of that, you know what I'm saying? No limit, I'ma rock with no limit, whatever it is it is. You know what I'm saying? But them two, that was hard for me. That was hard for me. You know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: Because if it would have turned out that way, you know what saying? That would have been hard for me, saying physically I'm going go at him. You get what I'm saying? That would have been devastating for me because, you know what I'm saying? No limit is where I stand and where I'm going stand until I die. So I'm going have to stand for it. TRU Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: is Bloody and Blood Out. Smokey Da Bandit: Loyal soldier. Mr serv on: So I always was blessed that it never got to that. You know what saying? Because it would be hard to say, you know what I'm saying? Look at somebody I grew up with that I look at as a brother. We on these opposing sides, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's I was always glad that it never Smokey Da Bandit: Well, I was a huge, huge fan, a no limit fan. And I bought every C D. I I anticipated the next CD to see what all the CDs was what was about to come out next. So I could get it. Man, and then cash money came out of nowhere. And I'm like, who was who is this? And then it was just like y'all was on. one side of the earth and they was on the other side of the earth. And it's like, why they ain't never, why they ain't, they from the same place. Why? Mr serv on: politics man and know P and Baby they just and then outside Smokey Da Bandit: And you in the middle. Mr serv on: outside force you had people from P Project and people from the Magnolia and Baby they wasn't getting along so we went from the streets up into the music and so it wasn't so we as artists we was all cool P and Baby didn't really see eye to eye what saying They distant, but us as artists, we was cool. know what saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: know, juvie, juvie's like, that's bro to me. You know what I'm Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: saying? And so, you know, and C-Murda and VG, you always was tight. You know what I'm Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: saying? So, it was just like, know, and Manny and KL, and Mia knew all of them. She basically raised a lot of them. So, you know, for us as artists, we see each other, man, what's happening. Having me in the club together drinking, but them too, you know, they didn't. got eyes so we stood on our opposing side. Smokey Da Bandit: See, this and you can really tell that just listening to you and me being a fan, it just shows how much social media has changed everything. Cause we didn't we didn't get to see none of that. All we saw was cash money and no limit. Like it made it seem like they don't fuck with each other. Mr serv on: Yeah, and that, Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: and you know, it was like, nobody really got to see, you like I said, you might come in a certain club. I can, I'll give you a funny story. I was in a hotel, I wasn't married then, so you know what saying? I'm in a hotel and I have two females came hollered at me and I used to always get this one room, like a suite, right? And they only had one other suite. And so, Manifrest was in the next one, right? And he knew my car, I knew his car. He had come in my room before and he saw I had some drinks. So he just walked in the room and the females were sitting there and their eyes got big and he walked in and he grabbed the bottle and he turned around like, yeah, you know we beefing. And bust out laughing and walked off and he was like, everything all right? I'm like, I don't believe everything y'all hear man. Yeah, so you know he made me funny. Smokey Da Bandit: He wanted to keep the he wanted to keep the people talking and shit. Mr serv on: You know what I'm Smokey Da Bandit: Right, right. Came in on some bully shit, nigga. Give me this drink, nigga. We beefing. That's what's up. Hey, I meant to ask you, you said you had a girlfriend and you she said you embarrassed her 'cause you did a rap like L L, right? When you blew up, did you ever see her again? Mr serv on: Funny story man, we had a meeting in New Orleans. Smokey Da Bandit: Ha ha ha. Mr serv on: And so happened, her boyfriend was a big fan of mine, so she had to stand there and take a picture with me, him, and her. And it was, you know, and I never, bro, I'm never one, if you can find a picture that I'm smiling on, I gave you a thousand dollars, bro. I don't smile on pictures, right? That's Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: one picture, if somebody can find it, I will smile at my asshole, because I'm sitting here, and I know how she had to feel like. Your husband, walking in, I'm looking, I'm sitting at the table and I'm looking and he was like, man, man, I'm a big fan. And I'm like, man, I appreciate you. And I don't look at other, you know, I don't disrespect a man with, you know, a female, you Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: with or whatever. So, you know, kind of not really looking. And he was like, man, this my girlfriend. I was looking, she looked up, she was like, hey, how you doing? said, hey, how you doing? Y'all do know each other. like, yeah, yeah. You know, and he was like, can you know, I'll take a picture. And I'm like, yeah, no problem. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: No problem, yeah, no problem. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: that was satisfying, man. That's just like when I got back to New York, and I did the pun video. That same guy was, my guy came and met me, was over doing the pun video, NYDNO. And he was like, damn, you said you was coming back. Yeah, I came back. I said, I wanted to shoot it down here because of what you said over 15, 20 years. Smokey Da Bandit: Damn Mr. Servo I'm gonna serve that ass. Mr serv on: I don't forget But I'm not sick of this motivation never was angry. I was like, you know, I'm not cheap young people that you know, if somebody don't like Don't put your hands on the physical don't do that If what you're doing seem to drive them driving motherfuckers up a wall successful success is is it graded to anybody that's jealous and you have Envy it to you and you know it negative towards you you're doing something, you ain't gotta put your hands on them. All you gotta do is just be better and better and better. And it's gonna drive them up a wall, cuz they spend more time trying to down you, instead of doing what they need to do. And you're doing what And that's, and anybody tell you, you're not gonna be nothing. Use that as motivation. If it hurts your feelings, cry, cry by yourself. Pray and just pray and get to work. That's it. Smokey Da Bandit: Hell yeah. Facts. when did Master P first come into your life? Mr serv on: When I was 14, 13, 14 years old playing basketball going to the park, I used to follow his cup, him and his big brother Kevin, Kevin was his little brother, excuse me, Kevin Miller that got killed, God bless his soul. And I Smokey Da Bandit: RP cat yeah. Mr serv on: used to follow them to every basketball park and just play wherever they was playing and just wanted to be like him playing basketball and then know, man C, later on, started being closer because he was growing up. know, me and him would go everywhere and play ball with them. We would follow them everywhere they was at. So, that became early in my life, man. Like, it really looked out for me because I really used to ball, ball, bat, play ball. You know, when we said Smokey Da Bandit: You could B P. Mr serv on: no limit, we... Huh? Smokey Da Bandit: A B P right now? Mr serv on: Nah. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: I feel like I can. I've never thought I couldn't. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we choose different type of players, when I play. You know what I'm saying? When I played, could shoot the ball, P had handles. You know, I was more, I was Allen, I was the fan, so I played more tempo than I could get off the floor. I go get it. You put it up there, you put it up there by the square, you go, I'm gonna go get it. You know what I'm saying? So we played, you we played a different type of game. Mine was more... and attack and go at you. was more methodical in thinking. He could handle the ball and shoot the lights out. Smokey Da Bandit: So since you knew it so it sounded like you Mr serv on: You he told me a lot though. Smokey Da Bandit: it's yeah, it sounded like you knew P before the whole no limit thing even started. Mr serv on: He was so much of a hell of a player. My dream was to be a basketball player before a rapper. So when you go into these high school games and you're watching him play, man, that dude was a dog. But I tell you, and I Smokey Da Bandit: I s I think, yeah. Mr serv on: always say rappers, you know, people say, this rapper can play ball because they make a shot at MTV's, you know, celebrity game. No, we play basketball for real. You know, everybody in the winter. college I ended up playing all Navy which is playing pro teams or whatever. I went on a scholarship, he went on a scholarship to college so we took basketball. Basketball was everything to me and then to the rest. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, basketball was everything for me too. Yeah I was in love with basketball too. Heck no. did y'all did y'all get y'all a game in when y'all shot that make say video when y'all had them jerseys on and shit? Mr serv on: Yeah, what about it? Smokey Da Bandit: I said, did y'all get a game in while y'all was on the court? Mr serv on: Everywhere we went when we was on tour back then, you we We ran everything very military man, like every day We all had to go play basketball whether you could play or not That was for exercise and we all had to go and whenever we went to a city We went to wherever the college was at it and tell it to a team. Let's Because you gotta Smokey Da Bandit: What? Mr serv on: look at our stone. I'm six three, but I'm the shoulder so you got He is like 6'6". Silk is 6'7". C was like 6'7". And Ed, God bless his soul, Big Ed, he 6'5". And Ed played at Smokey Da Bandit: Big eight. Mr serv on: Houston, Washington. He played at Houston. Silk played, I forgot, Junior College, and I went to Norfolk State. And I was the shortest. So, you know what saying? So when we went in cities, we went wherever the college that was that college, we went on that college. Smokey Da Bandit: I'll already has our team. Yeah. Mr serv on: Yeah, we went on that college campus and said, bring them, tell them we over. Smokey Da Bandit: That's dope. Mr serv on: We we played for real man at MTV. Celebrity started everybody like, you can play. Ain't but a few. Ain't but a few rap artists can really play ball. Smokey Da Bandit: So when when when P started telling everybody his vision for no limit, did you immediately be believe him or was there a moment where you was like, Man, this nigga crazy. Mr serv on: When he told us, give him a chance, come up, they spoke to him. And know me, I just come from what I went through and my mother was like, you you bring legal money in here, you can't come in here. And what he said, man, look, I'm gonna give y'all 2500 of the song if you come up here for this compilation for his music. We got up there and he showed that and they could tell. We got up there, had no limit jackets, we had our tanks. He gave us the money right before we even get You know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: What? Mr serv on: Yeah, he paid us before, made sure we had everything we wanted. it's like, okay, you know what saying? must be dense. He started taking me around. learned Oakland, so I started becoming his driver. And I used to drive him, and I watched him do it. I watched him go in these record stores, man, and work this music, man. And dude, I would pick him up from his house at seven in the morning. We didn't get back till six in the morning, drop them off, come back and get them at seven. No, we worked all day and then went to studio at night. You know what I'm saying? I, I, couldn't, I, wouldn't want to be a part of that. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, I would wanna be b I would want to be a part of that. Mr serv on: F them. Smokey Da Bandit: Somebody pushing you too, pushing you to be the best that you could be. Teamwork, teamwork, make the dream Mr serv on: Make it so your family does. Smokey Da Bandit: work. Mr serv on: word whatever money cities don't give us Smokey Da Bandit: Take us inside no limit during that run. What was a normal day around the tank ac actually alike? Mr serv on: depends on if somebody had an album. You still had to show up. wanted to build camaraderie so everybody would be there and the producers would be working. had two studios and they would be working, you know, whoever album was being worked on. And then about three o'clock everybody had to wear their tennis shoes, their basketball shoes, and everybody had to go to Southern University. ball together. or not. Mia was the only one that didn't have to go. You know what saying? But everybody else had to go. And then once you come from there, go home, take a shower, and everybody got to be back at the studio. You know what I'm saying? So that was, that was every day. Smokey Da Bandit: Man, what? I'm just sitting here visualizing it like you got somebody, hey, we you gotta be here. Mr serv on: you gotta be here. You had to be there. you look at it as okay, maybe you just here for the album. Okay, we'll get the album done. But you will miss it if you were, if you wasn't there. You know what I'm saying? And so, and that's who you were, man, and he was taking care of business. And why wouldn't you want to be around? I mean, we was paid different. He basically paid. created us, gave us money, you created us every two weeks. That was like work. If showed up at the studio, that's work. And then if you was doing your album, you got paid $1,500. We talking about 94, 95. You got paid $1,500. Everybody got different pay. Like Snoop, when he came, he got much more. But say for instance, the Louis person might have got $1,500 if he was on one of your songs, right? Now imagine Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: you got on four of your songs. That's $6,000. And we put now four albums a month So when you won't be in studio if I got a chance to be on your album if I'm just on your album one song 1500 then I'm on Fiend album another 1500 and I'm on Silk album another 1500 and I'm on Mia album So that and those albums coming out every month so that means I made extra $6,000 for just showing up at studio and writing a verse and Plus we get $2,500 every two weeks for just showing up and being in Then we had condominium style apartments. We had brand new apartments and he paid for all our rent was paid for. All the furniture was bought and paid for. Then our calls were given to us and our name paid for. So all I gotta do is get up at eight o'clock in the morning, nine o'clock in the morning, and come to the studio at ten o'clock and go play basketball. Come back six. grab them, get on somebody's album and get paid for that and then go home, see my family and relax myself the rest of the evening. And that was every day. And I got paid for coming in there. You know, because when we did albums, you had to, when you did an album, had to turn in 28 songs in two weeks, so your album didn't come out. Smokey Da Bandit: Damn. Mr serv on: We we worked, but it was work. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, he put y'all to twenty eight. You gotta have twenty eight track. Mr serv on: Think about it. We didn't have to be in the streets selling dope or whatever till our album come out. What's that about? And we didn't have to be in the streets because you getting paid $2,500 to be in studio, not in the streets. Then you was getting money off being on people's phones. Your car was paid for in your name. Your apartment was in your name and paid for until we got houses. things changed, you bought everybody houses in your name. You what I'm saying? What the fuck, I'm gonna go run the streets. If basically every day if you break that down, 10 days, 10 days of every paper, two weeks, right? And you go Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: 10 days, so that mean I'll make $250 a day to come in studio, probably get on a song and play basketball. get what I'm saying? So what the fuck I'm going, you know what saying? And that's not even counting without getting how many songs I might have been on. Smokey Da Bandit: You was on a lot of song. Mr serv on: Yeah, so hell yeah. So what the... If I could clear $5,000 a month from my paychecks, plus another $6,000 for getting on people's phones, you know what I'm saying? That's $11,000, $12,000 in 1995. You know what I'm saying? It's showing up for work, Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. what did P expect from you as an artist once you became a part of No Limit? Mr serv on: His thing was we gonna outwork everybody. He expected you to work. That's why he put that whole stipulation on us. 28 songs in two weeks so your album don't come out. when you hear people, Smokey Da Bandit: Or or it won't come out. Mr serv on: or it's not coming out, when you hear people come out, yeah, six months I worked on this, six months, six months. Well, we done put 12 albums out in six months, probably. You know what saying? No, you have to work, though. He expected you to work, to be present, and then the respect of... other and family. we had issues, had any issues. Ain't no guns coming out. We had an empty room where we had boxing gloves and we had issues. Smokey Da Bandit: I was gonna ask about that. Yeah. Mr serv on: Put the gloves on or shut the fuck up. Smokey Da Bandit: You had to put the gloves on if you had a problem with Mr serv on: yeah, if Smokey Da Bandit: a motherfucker. Mr serv on: you had a problem, ain't gonna be no pullin' no guns, ain't gonna be no cussin' perchin' each other out, and you'll bitch, you'll ho. No, somebody gonna tell you that got security in there, tell you, hold up, y'all got issues? Yeah, y'all got issues, yeah, yeah, fuck him, this is, all right, put the gloves on. You like, man, nah, man, I ain't puttin' them gloves on, shut the fuck up and leave. Not you gotta put them gloves on and go in that room. There was no furniture in that room. was an empty room. Go in that room, nigga, and get it off your chest. And once you do that, it's over. Ain't no coming back at the individual unless you wanna go back and put the gloves on again. if it come out there and you got some problems or you wanna call your homies or whatever, you're gonna get dealt with. So it was like fight and get it over with. Get it over with, put them gloves on. Smokey Da Bandit: I had a lot y'all had a lot of soldiers, man. Y'all had a lot of soldiers. How many how many of them soldiers Mr serv on: the difference in my public health. It was different. Smokey Da Bandit: you had to get down with? Mr serv on: I had I got three times I went in the room, you know what I'm saying? So, you know I mean, but it was like that's just the way it was and it kept confusing out because I don't care what nobody say make us a talk and put them gloves on You and them gloves about a minute to minute And gloves and gloves make you say alright, okay And I kept confusing her sometime and didn't get to that talking like that put them go y'all go in the room put some gloves on nigga man I ain't with that okay well calm down just fuck up and let it go that's your Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: brother that's that's your family nigga let it go that's the way it was Smokey Da Bandit: Respect, respect, respect, Ernie. KLC and Beast by the Pound created such a undef undefiable sound. What was it like watching that sound actually develop from inside the camp? Mr serv on: When I first met him, I was brought to him. I was dropped off to him by the great MC Dawes. I was at Southern University and I started rapping by then. He was like, that was one of my rap idols from New Orleans. He wanted to pioneer. He was like, man, I need to ride uptown, right? So I gave him a ride and he brought me in there and he was like, that's KLC, Somebody's going to the studio, so I was like, I won't go, I won't go. He's like, all right, no problem. We have freestyles, he bust my ass in the UC, right? So I'm thinking he wanted to go to studio. He brought me in there by KL and he left me, dropped me off. He told KL, he said, yeah, he wrapped, check him out. KL told me, he 16 balls, right? I ain't know what the fuck you talking about, said, man, freestyle. So I was just rapping and he stopped and was like, he stopped the music and said, you know what, bro? You can't rap. So I just looked at him like, and at that time I was still, you I was doing what I was doing. And my mind said, was like, man, I got enough money in my pocket to buy your fucking mic, man. I was pissed off. And he was like, before you get offended, I told you to 16 balls. You just spit over 80 bars. I'm like, what the fuck is he talking about bars? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: And he was like, you don't even know what bars are. So he broke me down and taught me how to rap again. So I was around him when he was making those and I knew he had something different. And I'm like, man, it sounds epic out there. What he made about it to be, it was just crazy. And then me and him had a formula. know, some people remember when I say to my son, all we had between us was jungle. ruffles, small bag of ruffles and honey buns. So we know we'd be working in the studio. Then about 11 30 12 o'clock we go we go around to this little church yard and had a basketball court in it. So we everybody would meet there and we'd play basketball at midnight to about two in the morning. Right. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: And so then we'd leave from there and we'd go watch Speed Racer. It was a cartoon. And if anybody know what Speed Racer is, Smokey Da Bandit: Ghost be racer, ghost be racer, ghost be racer, go. Mr serv on: I watched it. I watched it. They got all the calls in Speed Racer, I Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: wasn't, that was the, look at the calls of the day, Bugatti's and all that other shit. Look at the calls of the day, think about that. Them, them, that, so that was them calls, but we watched that shit and then we just get back to work. You know what I'm saying? And then he was a DJ at one of the most gangster clubs called Rumors in New Orleans. So me and him, he was a DJ, so I used to go to work with him. You know what saying? Over there at that spot. And I was seeing the, late great social slam of watching him perform first. First time ever seeing him perform, because KL was like his goddess. You know what I'm saying? KL really raised him musically. and so, got to see me perform for the first time there. So, KL taught me a lot, man. and... believed in me enough to when somebody had a hookup for me to meet Jermaine the priest we went to Atlanta to Jack the rapper and it's funny story right the guy that brought us was gonna be my manager and he brought us out there and we have no passes right and Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: I always say this man I'm a God fearing man they two little dudes they had some passes and we didn't have no passes but we got in Jack the rapper So, you know, and I always laugh and say, I know them same dudes probably saw man, that's Mr. Cerebon. He took our passes, you know what saying? I always felt bad like I wish I ever meet that man. I'll do whatever I can to help him because we Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: had to get Jack the Rapper's and we was trying to meet the man, the priest. And when we got in Jack the Rapper's, a fight started. Smokey Da Bandit: Jack the rap. Mr serv on: Yeah, Jack the Rapper's convention in Atlanta. and a fight started. That's when Luke Skywalker and Death Row, they had their peace. In the middle of that fight, peace, and shit. The shocker walk up and was like, man, what you doing out here? I'm like, man, I rap. And that's how we connected. And I gave him, know, I was, I'm gonna my age, I gave him our cassette. And we ate dinner and he was telling us about his label. And about two weeks later, I'm watching the video of the West Coast Bad Boys and I hit my hook. He just took my hook. Gotta get my server on, but niggas don't hear me though. And so I called him like, man, what's up with that? what's going on? He was like, man, y'all oughta come up here for two weeks. I'm telling you, I got the biggest label, but my label gonna be the biggest label ever. And I was like, shit, okay, he just took my hook. He said, man, come up here and do some music. I'll be out 2500 songs. I'm saying and me, Bill, and me got on the plane and went up there. And that began our run. Smokey Da Bandit: That's what's up, man. Man, history, history. So much Mr serv on: Yeah. Smokey Da Bandit: history. was there ever a record you Th was there ever a record you made that You wish. Was bigger than it was. Mr serv on: To honest with you man... Smokey Da Bandit: Like a favorite record of yours? Mr serv on: My favorite album is not what people think it is. Smokey Da Bandit: Well well. Mr serv on: favorite album is called No More Questions. I wasn't on No Limit at that time. And I felt like that was one of the best albums I ever made. The world would have gotten to hear that album. Because I actually co-produced it, executive producers and everything. After I left No Limit. But as far as on life insurance, me and KL always talk about I should have made Heaven Is So Close my first song, my first video. to the best room with my lady. And then, Head and Shoulders. You know what I'm saying? That's the song I... Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. I'm happy. the volume just went up. That's good. Mr serv on: yeah, that I guess cause the these these damn things went down. Batteries ran out. But yeah man, that's that's what I felt. Smokey Da Bandit: What's one No Limit Studio story that you could probably that you probably couldn't tell us in ninety eight, but you could tell us now? Mr serv on: man. Now involved now when when Kale may fuck them other niggas, right? And we from the south and Snoop them from the West. And when he pressed that button, man, and watching all them all them down dog dog pound dudes, they in their crib walking, it was like, you know, and me, bruh, I always used to get in trouble with a lot, man. And I remember Snoop gave me the greatest advice, man, ever. You know what I'm saying? He I wanted to go to the swap meet and get some shit to bring back to the city. And he was like, nephew, he said, I'm on y'all label now. He said, Nephew, you can send somebody to do that, man. You every day you got to work. You gotta continue working, man. You got don't don't you got time to give get somebody to do that. You know what I'm saying? You don't take this shit for granted. And it it kinda it pissed me off at first, and then I was like, I sat there and I remember and I just and then I just sat there and I watched him work. And I watched him just go in there and work. And I'm like, man, look how hard this dude is working. And he is Snoop, dog. He's he's four times, seven time, eight times platinum. And I'm just sitting there and I'm watching him. I'm sitting in the corner. And I'm I'm watching him, man. And it was just like it put in perspective don't waste time. You know what I'm saying? do your work, do what you gotta do. You know what I'm saying? You could you it could all you could easily lose all of it. And you know, but that that that was part of it. But also, if you ask KLM, they'll tell you all my studio sessions was like a party. Cause they P P fucked up. P told them, hey, whatever you need in that studio, don't leave. You could you can order whatever you want. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: They fucked up and told me this is before Uber Eats and DoorDash and everything. I found out I could call and get whatever I want. Man, you walk in that fucking studio every day. And I I didn't even drink then. I played basketball. I was an athlete. Dog, everybody in there was good. I was ordering Popeyes for everybody every day, steaks, shrimp. I was ordering fucking 24 pack things of Heineken, fucking champagne, fucking Hennessy. But every day P looked at the the like, you know, the bill like Who the fuck was drink what y'all was doing? Y'all was having a party? It was Kay was like, That was served. My my all my sessions were always like a damn party, and it was crazy. I didn't drink. I didn't I didn't drink or smoke weed. That's when I realized you could owe them fucking weed in California back then. Yeah man. So that was that was things in the studio, man. And if if it's certain songs, man, like I said, fuck them other niggas. But when P was doing ghetto D. You want to talk about a man that's a millionaire, multimillionaire on top of game. And that nigga was working so hard, dog. He took that album. He was like, this is gonna be that one. And I got to watch what a leader was. You know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: and and and and how he was putting together his album. I learned how to put together an album better. You know, and choosing his beats and choosing his concepts and choosing his promotion. I watched. him work like he was like like he like he was hoping to get on but he was already on. And that that really set me. That always set with me because no limit was like we laughed and talked in studio but we we worked at the same time. It wasn't a game. It wasn't, we didn't have a bunch of females in the studio. We didn't, that P wasn't having all that shit, man. You you had to come in there and do your work and do what you gotta do. You won't holler at some females, you holler at him later. You know what I'm saying? And you just work. Smokey Da Bandit: No distractions. Mr serv on: No, none none, bro. Smokey Da Bandit: Shout out to team, no distractions. how was it w how was it like when you met Snoop? Like was that your first time when he came to the label or, you know, w w how was that when you Mr serv on: I was, we was on, I got the hookup, and I was I was, I saw a blue hummer. Right? I'm like, damn, that hummer nice. And I go in to go holler at P to mess with P and he was standing there, bro. And when I was growing up, you know what I'm saying, coming up, I had certain people picture on my wall from magazines. So, and I used to lay in my Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, I used to do that. Mr serv on: bed. I used to lay in my bed and I always look up at each one of them man, y'all gonna know my name one day. And his was one of them. And when I walked in there and saw him, bro, I was just like. I walk back out. And I, Smokey Da Bandit: What? Mr serv on: you you do one of them damn, is that really? I looked over at the blue hammer and I came back in and P was like, man, serve this this serve on this snoop. And he's like, nephew, what's happening? I'm like, the nigga really cool, he really he really talk cool, he really talked like that, man. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, yeah. Mr serv on: And and and you know, and just sitting there listening to him talk, bro, it was like, God, like, wow. You know what I'm saying? damn, this Snoop. This most recognizable rapper in the world, next to Pac. Well, Pac had passed by then. And and then for me, the ultimate thing where I could have just ended my life and been done with everything, I'd been okay. I was I was at a convention, man, and I I saw Scarface and I'm like, man, I'm going to speak to him. I I I did I did a little something, man. I'm going to speak to him. I done I done sold some records. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah yeah. Mr serv on: And I walked up and I said, hey man, I wanna introduce myself. And he was like, Mr. S Mr. Serv-On what's happening? My nigga, I think all the breath of my life went out of me, bro. I'm like, Scarface know my name, bro. He knows my fucking name, dog. I'm Smokey Da Bandit: Mm. Mr serv on: I'm gonna tell you like man, no, I didn't say you're gonna cry in the car. Nigga, I cried. I I was Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: sitting I was sitting in the car. I was sitting in the car waiting to go back to our hotel. I was about cause I was driving by myself. Man, I sit there and cry like, man, I got I I call my mama, man. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: I'm like, Ma, he knows who I am. She like, who? I said, Scarface, music I always play around the thing. She said, that that that boy that was talking about people dying, I said, Yeah, yeah, him. You know, and I was calling all my friends. I was calling everybody. I said, Bro, he knows my name, dog. That's when I wish Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, I know. Mr serv on: they had phones, because you know, people believe you, but then they might and they might not. If I'd have had a phone and somebody was recording that. That was, and then I think the third thing was we was at the walls, man, and and Michael Jackson wanted to say hello to P. And I think all everybody, all of us was standing there like, we ain't know if we was breathing, dog, cause you s his his security open up. Like them motherfuckers look out there kill everything, everything in that building. Open up and he walked up and was, you know, say whatever you saying to P, you know, like your music, like what you're doing. And we, it's one of them Smokey Da Bandit: You saw Mike. Mr serv on: doubles. It's one of them doubles where you like, I used to say, man, people be screaming and crying at a concert. I'm like, man, I'm about to scream, man, lose all my gangster. Like, that's fucking Mike, man. Like, that's Michael J. That's the baddest motherfucker ever to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: that's the perks that come with this, with this business and being at no limit. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: Where Lord, I'm looking over this motherfucker, I'm like, wait a minute, that's Mike, dog. That's Jermaine and brother. That's Janet, brother. Smokey Da Bandit: Mm-hmm. Mr serv on: and and and at the American Music Wars, I I I set two seats down from Janet, and I you I had a big crush on Janet. So for me, that was that was one of them moments and and Mia was close to Mary J. Blige, and she got I got to meet her, and that was another one of them moments where I was just about to disrespect myself in every way possible. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: Like this Mary J, nigga. I I man, no. You know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Mm. Mr serv on: And but that's that's moments in in sit whether it's in studio or at award shows that was big for me. But Skullface Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: was the biggest, dog. Michael Jackson Smokey Da Bandit: No I no Mr serv on: was huge, but for me, Scarface was everything, dog. I Smokey Da Bandit: Scarface. That that's how I feel. I I think that's how Snoop is for me. if I met Snoop, I have had seen him on FaceTime. Shout out to my nigga Deacon, aka Deacon, Menisky Mob, and put me on FaceTime. He was like, What's up, nephew? He's Yeah, this is my shot time, nigga, right here, woo. And he's like, What's happening? And I'm like, I had I hey Mr serv on: That nigga so cool, bruh. Smokey Da Bandit: I screenshot that shit so fast, like nigga, that's Snoop, but no. It's gonna be different in person. But yeah, I met face and all that. Yeah. It it do be like, damn. Mr serv on: Yeah. My bro, he is exactly like he is in person. Smokey Da Bandit: Who face or Snoop? Yeah. Mr serv on: Snoop. When I when I when when he when he just said, what's up, nephew? And you know how he talk, man, and I'm just sitting there like, man, this motherfuckin' just this Snoop double G man, this man, man, get the fuck out of here. Mama, I made it. Fuck this. Yeah, man, that's and and he and Smokey Da Bandit: Straight up. Straight up. Mr serv on: he teach you, dog. He will teach you, dog. He sit and talk to you. He teach bruh. Smokey Da Bandit: That's all that's all I wanna do is have a have a conversation in the smoke one time. And that's gonna I'm Mr serv on: Yeah. Smokey Da Bandit: I like you said, hey, I could die tomorrow. Mr serv on: yep, yeah, I'm I'm gone, I'm done. I d I'm I'm I see y'all, I d I d I did it no. Smokey Da Bandit: I'm done. I ain't gotta rap no more. I ain't even gotta die. I just ain't gotta rap no more. It's all good. I'm cool. Now I'm just playing. Mr serv on: I did it. I I felt, when I met Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay was cool, man. Jay was good, man. Jay Jay looked out for me one day. Smokey Da Bandit: Diga? Jigga? Mr serv on: I went backstage and I had all my no limit stuff on. And somebody felt funny and they they they got security to to put me because Silk told me to go holler at Jay and say what's up to him because he couldn't make the concert. And somebody got me escorted from back there. So, you know, I'm like, all right. And next thing you know, a Nation Islam came and called me to come back. When I came back, they brought me in there to see DMX and DMX apologized. God rest his soul, man. I got to meet him and then Jay put me in there. Jay said, You need something, you need something to drink, man. I apologize. I don't know who did that, man, but you good. You can stay the whole show, whatever you wanna do, you know what I'm saying? And and got to meet him and talk to him, man. So that was that was special to me also, 'cause he one of my favorites. Smokey Da Bandit: Man, that's dope, man. You didn't Mr serv on: And I and Ice Cube. I Ice Cube too. I was kinda starstruck when I saw Ice Cube. I thought Ice Cube was bigger than what he was, and I'm I'm much bigger than him and I'm like Damn Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, I met Cube at a at a big three game. I was chilling with him and my my brother Cole Hard from Crucial Conflict. Shout out to Cole. Mr serv on: that's my nigger, man. Smokey Da Bandit: That's my brother, man. That's my big brother, man, Cole Hart. Mr serv on: Man, when you talk to him tell him I say I love him, man. That's my n man, that's my partner though. Smokey Da Bandit: yeah, that's a real one right there. He Mr serv on: Yeah, D. Smokey Da Bandit: he what you was finna say? Mr serv on: He he all day, all day. but I think he knows that Smokey Da Bandit: yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr serv on: I have family out in in the shy. A lot a lot of people. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. That's my brother. I talk to him every other day, for real. Mr serv on: Not a people, why the people cut caught, caught some of my about my family, with my family in the shy. A lot of people Smokey Da Bandit: The Mr serv on: caught it, man. I I give respect to family, you know what I'm saying, on on certain side, sides of the aisle. If you ever really think about it, head and shoulders, you know the song, right? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: Real gangsters don't dance, they groove. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: That was respect. That was respect and homage. Real gangsters don't dance. Take the own off. That was respect to the to my to the nation. I got a lot of family, Smokey Da Bandit: Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir. Mr serv on: man, and in out in Shy, man. And then with my my cousin. My cousin is, P Stone. Yeah, that's why I said in the in the song. I well on with when I on a song I said six to thirty and house head. I ain't just throw out a street. Yeah, that's all it's fa family all through Chicago for me, man. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah Mr serv on: West Side, South Side, I got family on on all post of the aisle. You know what I'm saying? And and that's why we talk about Harold's chicken. You know what I'm saying? And so I need my salsa on my fries, man. So Yeah. We'll be there for the tour. I can't wait, man. We be there. That's my that's my that's my wife's Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. man, well we gotta hey, we gotta kick it, man. When you come back out here, we gotta kick it when you come back out here. yeah, y'all back on the tour. Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. Mr serv on: I think in November, the fourteenth or something. That's my wife's favorite Smokey Da Bandit: November? I'ma look it up. Mr serv on: city. We was on the last tour, she came with me to Chicago. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Yeah. Mr serv on: She loves Chicago though. if I say wait Smokey Da Bandit: I was at the I was at that show. I was at the show. I didn't get to meet y'all. But I was at the show. Mr serv on: Yeah. And and one of my and one of my family I call him Lil Bro, is State Representative Camion Buckner. Smokey Da Bandit: Okay. Mr serv on: Yeah. He the speaker the house in Illinois. That's that's family, man. He be he be Smokey Da Bandit: Bang. Mr serv on: down here, man. He he from the wild one hundred. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, south side. Mr serv on: Well man, but we know we we George's music room, man. I back then when it was open up, you know what I'm saying? So Chicago means a lot, man. Chicago go deep, man. It's Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: shy is shy everything, man, to me. And that's why, and that Yeah. And I can't Smokey Da Bandit: Y'all heard it, y'all heard him, y'all heard him. He love my city. Mr serv on: wait. I can't wait till we get to Chicago. You know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Man, I can't either. Mr serv on: Doing throw your city up, doing you know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: this the the ver no that's not versus but it's cash money no limit. Shout out to Cash Money No Limit tour right now. It's going on right Mr serv on: Yeah. Smokey Da Bandit: now. Mr serv on: Get your tickets, man. We coming. Smokey Da Bandit: Man, you know a lot of my people. I know somebody that you used to work with. How close would you how close would you how cl close was you? I don't know why my motherfucking mouth got stuck. Cotton mouth, hold on. How close was you with Young Bleed? That's my doubt. Mr serv on: man, it's had to take a second. that was that was my bro, Smokey Da Bandit: R P Young Bleed. R P Mr serv on: man. That was that's my bro. It still it still fucked with me, man. Like, you know, and I I tell people something that they didn't see, you know. Bleed always was laid back, you know that. Bleed rap Smokey Da Bandit: Mm-hmm. Mr serv on: laid back, he walked laid back, he talked laid back. I'm I'm gonna show you something. You saw Smokey Da Bandit: Talk laid back with that deep voice. Mr serv on: the verses that night, right? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, he was man, he was turned up. He was I talked to him. I he didn't even Mr serv on: Thank you. You don't see you. Smokey Da Bandit: know about the verses. I told him about it. Mr serv on: Bro, but this the crazy part. A lot of people don't really catch that. If bleed, bleed, don't move like that, don't jump like that. And I just, and that's what hurt me so much, cause it's like it was like for the first time he just let go. And he was he was jumping. He was he was happy to be and he was just like he and he knew he was getting his respect to the in front of the world with how you do that there. And people Smokey Da Bandit: I was so happy. Mr serv on: know that that's, his song and doing his thing. I he was jumping up and down, he was he was rowdy. He He was bleed never like that. You we we bleed'll be doing his thing, we'll be doing what we gotta do. You come back to the back of the stage and he just sitting back, yeah, but about yeah, it's everybody, blah, dah, Smokey Da Bandit: Mm-hmm. Mr serv on: dah, dah. And I'm looking over at him and I'm happy and smiling because I'm looking how happy and overjoyed, even we touching each other, like, man, look at Bleed. And I don't know if that was just this is gonna be my last night. You know what I'm Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: saying? And I and and I want them to remember me like this. You know, and and Smokey Da Bandit: I looked at it like that too, he man. Mr serv on: Yeah. A lot of people, only pr certain people really caught that if you know him, that's not him. He don't do that. He he relaxed. He threw his song and Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: and fade on to the back. Might go smoke something or just chill. But for him to be up there like that, man, it was like it was memorable. Out of all the stuff that I saw that night, that's the most memorable thing. Cause it was like I'm telling you, we was touching each other, man. Look at Bleed. We smiling laughing cause we like Man, bleed is is ex is enjoying the fuck out itself. Smokey Da Bandit: Man. Mr serv on: And we don't know, maybe God was like, That's how I want you to remember him, and and I believe Smokey Da Bandit: He he Mr serv on: in that. You know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, I believe in that too. I believe he he he he he w he went home doing what he loved. Doing what he loved. Mr serv on: Yep. And world and he got and he finally got that because I felt like Bleed got respect. But when people thought of that song, of course, P on it. And, you know, and now the world got to really see and really feel that song. Cause you feel it when P do but P do it by itself. But when Bleed and Pete do it, you know what I'm saying? You feel that song a little different. Cause when he come on Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: at when he come on, when his verse come on and he come on and you see him do it. Along with us all on the stage and with P, it's a different feeling about that song though. It's so funny. It's so it's a it's a dude I just saw on Instagram and it's and he tell my man, I'm gonna be first time performing my song, How You Do That Dad? He really got the beat and everything. I got offended, man, and I I I I I sent him a message like, You know I know you're not playing with with homie like that. you did you get permission for from his family, like You really doing a song and somehow you perform me a song how you do that there the first time. I'm like Okay. Smokey Da Bandit: But Mr serv on: Yeah. Yeah, I sent him a message. I hope you make sure his family is straight and you got permission to do that. Smokey Da Bandit: Man, I had h this how cool I was with Young Bleed. I ha I had heard a version of how you do that by some some rapper from California. I'm I'm I can't think of his name right now, but he cause he changed his name. But he had did I guess the song had already been out, but it was my first time hearing it when he was on the pop-out with Kendrick Lamar. He did his version of how you do that there. I'm like, what the fuck? Hold on. I hear bleed up like, hey, you know it's somebody out here doing your song? He and he said he knew about it and shit. I'm like, okay, nigga. Damn. Mr serv on: Yeah. Bleed cool as shit though, you know what I'm saying? But I miss my homie, dog. I miss him, dog. He that type and you know what Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, me too, man. I got a song with him. Mr serv on: you know you know I really was? Bleed a call you and most rappers will be like, man, okay, all they got is ten grand. You know, I'm trying to get all of that. He'll call you and say, Sir, if I could get you four, five, I can get you two, three, come do one song, two grand or whatever. He you know, he got a few dollars to spend. You feel like coming do it? No, he would Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: do that all the time. All the time, remember. And then Ble people don't know Bleed was funny as a motherfucker, dog. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, he were. Yeah, yeah, he were. Mr serv on: We performed once in South Carolina and they didn't have no stage. All it had was a hill. we was on the top of the hill, and you had a lot of people around. It was a lot of people in this little park area. And Bleed re bleed looked over to him and said, Sir, Jesus and Moses was on top of hill. Not me and you, Jesus and Moses. Which one are you? I'm like, and I'm I'm sitting there laughing and the music coming on. And we we recording it. we performing, bro, about a hundred and ten degrees, dog, on top of a hill. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: See, but Blee see, Bleed was like, cuz we gotta get this money, cuz he he get the back end good. You g back in good? I said, Yeah. He said, we about to be rapping on this motherfucking heel. That's bleed, man. That was my Smokey Da Bandit: Man. Mr serv on: nigga, dog. Smokey Da Bandit: That was my nigga man. R P Young Bleed, man. Damn, I got so much I wanna ask you. How was it working with Mystikal Mr serv on: Tell you like this: it's two people Smokey Da Bandit: You got him. Mr serv on: at no limit, it's two people at no limit. You don't want to go before or after Smokey Da Bandit: Mm-hmm. Mr serv on: their verse. You bond them out, probably get your ass bust. This is what's gonna happen. If you go before Mia Mia or him, people probably skip over your verse to get to theirs. If you go after them, they ain't trying to hear you after. No, and and and You talking about somebody with energy and so talented, bro. free, free my bro, because that's again, man, innocent. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, man, working with him that was broke, because we, we was, high school together. You know what I'm saying? lived around each other. Yeah, bro, man. He I I loved working, I love watching him perform, dog. Smokey Da Bandit: Mm-hmm. Mr serv on: I think the most gangster shit I I saw was because Mystikal was so God given in his music and he would just come on and do what he do. And we was doing the last tour we was on and we brought Juvenile, right? And I remember the first night I saw this look in Mike's eyes. And it was like I accept the challenge. That's what what it was, cause it was like he would normally do his shit, but Juvenile went out there and rocked that bitch and he came after. It was like he was just going hard. And every night he had to go buy and Juvie. Juve, he was going hard. He was like, man, fuck this. I know I'm getting this money, but nah, this nigga on this bitch, so I'm about to go. I'm about to let him know this is my stage. You know what I'm saying? I'ma tell you something. His performances be so nice, bro. I can say this. I wasn't married at this time. Though. You would Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: always get you would always get your hotel card, right? You get a few hotel cards and and have to put your room number on there and hand it to somebody. You know how that shit go back in the days, young and dumb. Man, that Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: makes when he come to the when it's time for him to perform, all the females run to the front of the stage. You out there. You trying to either be on the stage on the end of that motherfucker and trying to holler very the female's dog after him, man. And if you performin' after him, you don't wanna go after him on a song and you don't wanna go up before him. That's that's the best I could tell you. Smokey Da Bandit: I bo I bet ya I bonded on that military shit hard too, huh? Mr serv on: always, always. We we we saw each other out there. You know what I'm saying? Smokey Da Bandit: Really? Mr serv on: So yeah, he was in the army, I was in the navy, but I was on the ground Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. Mr serv on: as a C B C B. You know what I'm saying? So we we we we've had many sit down stories of the stuff we saw at over there and what we went through and what we dealt with. So, we talk about it lightly, not not much. 'Cause see that's a difference, man. You when you going over there with several and a lot of not coming back, that shit is different. That shit hit different, man. That shit that shit is different, bruh, cause you you you you you knowing that you joking in with somebody and then you you go into combat and you One of my one of my jobs in the military was was I I always checked the freezers, right? And the freezers is where the body bags was at. So imagine coming back two weeks, two weeks' ride on a ship all the way back, and you gotta go every night and go check this this freezer area with all these bodies and body bags, man. That's that's you know, that shit hit different, bro. One minute you laughing and talking with somebody on a ship going over, and then next minute you can see they tag and know that's their body in there. You know what I'm saying? So me and him always talked about it, you know, every once in a while. Sit outside, you know, he's smoking and we just we talk about it. Cause that shit never leave your mind. Smokey Da Bandit: Man, we're gonna have to do a part two because I I got so many questions and I don't wanna hold up too much of your time and I know I think I think we may have had some tech technical difficulties. So if if it's cool, I would Mr serv on: Well see when Smokey Da Bandit: like to bring you back on. Mr serv on: Okay, we could we could do that, no problem though. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah, 'cause I got a lot I had a lot to ask you, but I think I think you got cut off. So I had to reboot. Mr serv on: Yeah, a couple of times. Yeah. Smokey Da Bandit: Yeah. So I'm gonna see what I could do with what we got and I'm gonna bring you back on. We're gonna bring Mr. Servone back into the smoking section. He gonna have a he gonna have some some of that loud on him. You know what I'm saying? And we gonna have sit down, smoke, talk, and continue. To be continued. Mr serv on: Definitely, definitely, definitely. Smokey Da Bandit: And I'm a I'ma man, I wanna come see you in in in concert, when you come out come out here. Mr serv on: She'd holler at when I when I touch the shot, baby. Holl at me. Smokey Da Bandit: For sure, for sure, man. You have a good night. Thank you for coming to the smoking sex. Mr serv on: Man, blessings. Peace. Smokey Da Bandit: Bless it, yes sir.