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- 0:20Speaker 1: We have a tired crew today. What we do I
- 0:24Speaker 1: mean is he's not tired, he's fresh, He's ready to go.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Taylor.
- 0:27Speaker 1: He flew in from New York this morning. I flew
- 0:29Speaker 1: in late night last night from Detroit. Mikeyya spent the
- 0:32Speaker 1: entire weekend with the Savannah bananas.
- 0:34Speaker 4: Wow, yeah it was bananas.
- 0:37Speaker 1: I mean, But unlike Kevin Durant, we play with pain
- 0:39Speaker 1: around here and we will try to entertain you.
- 0:41Speaker 3: For two hours.
- 0:43Speaker 5: What did you play through in game two? We don't
- 0:44Speaker 5: even know. Probably pain.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We have the weekend Feel observations coming up here at
- 0:51Speaker 1: around three point thirty. It's a Mount Rushmore Monday. I
- 0:55Speaker 1: don't know what the topic is. Dan's not here. I
- 0:57Speaker 1: don't know how we're.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Going to do this today. Is he Yeah?
- 1:01Speaker 5: Got that update anger whose name you can't say Monzi?
- 1:07Speaker 3: Did I get it right?
- 1:08Speaker 4: No?
- 1:12Speaker 6: He said, Manzi.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Whatever tomato, tomato.
- 1:17Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, she is shaking your head
- 1:21Speaker 1: in agreement with me or disagreement.
- 1:24Speaker 3: She's nodding. You got it close enough?
- 1:26Speaker 4: Put it on the pole. Do you ever shake your head.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Into a Greay agreement? Potato? Potato? But is he?
- 1:34Speaker 1: I want to start here again. We can observations coming
- 1:37Speaker 1: up here at around three point thirty. I want to
- 1:39Speaker 1: start with a press conference with John Lynch. It's an
- 1:45Speaker 1: odd place to uh start. Well, I'm just interested in
- 1:48Speaker 1: whether or not you think this question is fair. This
- 1:51Speaker 1: is John Lynch's news conference and human being asked a
- 1:55Speaker 1: I guess a bit of an uncomfortable question. Let's play
- 1:57Speaker 1: it real quick.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Your draft boards seems to deviate quite a bit from
- 2:01Speaker 2: the consensus.
- 2:03Speaker 4: Why are you confident with that?
- 2:05Speaker 6: Giving your track record drafting the last few years, it
- 2:07Speaker 6: seems like it leads to you making reaches.
- 2:11Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate that you think that depends who's consensus.
- 2:15Speaker 4: We got consensus in this building.
- 2:17Speaker 6: And that's the uh and that's the consensus.
- 2:20Speaker 3: I care about.
- 2:23Speaker 5: What is the consensus After they draft somebody and he
- 2:26Speaker 5: turns out to be a bust, then because he doesn't
- 2:28Speaker 5: really have a whole heck of a lot of early
- 2:30Speaker 5: round success outside of like Nick Bosa and Brandon Aiyuk, Right, but.
- 2:34Speaker 1: He does have rock Party, and that team is in
- 2:36Speaker 1: contention just about every single year, and they've been in
- 2:39Speaker 1: contention since John Lynch has taken over as the general
- 2:42Speaker 1: manager of the San Francisco forty nine Ers. I am wondering,
- 2:45Speaker 1: as a person who has been in that setting, that environment,
- 2:47Speaker 1: a news conference after a big event, if you feel
- 2:50Speaker 1: like that's an appropriate way of asking that question.
- 2:53Speaker 5: Is there a word for more appropriate, like ultimately appropriate,
- 2:58Speaker 5: Like that is the most appropriate question in that setting,
- 3:01Speaker 5: because he's not even insulting him. He's saying, hey, your
- 3:05Speaker 5: draft board looks different than others, right, Yeah, and early
- 3:07Speaker 5: on that would sort of lead to a reach is
- 3:12Speaker 5: what he's saying. Reach is He's not saying bust. He's
- 3:15Speaker 5: saying reach at the time. So he's asking, why have
- 3:17Speaker 5: that level of confidence after if some of them don't
- 3:21Speaker 5: really you know, your your track records, some of them
- 3:23Speaker 5: don't really show up, and it's just like Okay, nobody's
- 3:26Speaker 5: saying he's not a good day too, guy, He's a
- 3:28Speaker 5: great day too.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Guy.
- 3:29Speaker 5: Around three and after the forty nine Ers are, So
- 3:31Speaker 5: I think that question was asked in a way where
- 3:34Speaker 5: it's not really insulting unless you're like really digging in there,
- 3:39Speaker 5: but it's just factual, it's true, and you know, it's
- 3:42Speaker 5: a good way to ask the question. I think it
- 3:43Speaker 5: was ridiculously appropriate.
- 3:45Speaker 6: It's insulting because when you're saying, why is your draft
- 3:48Speaker 6: board different than others? The others that you're talking about
- 3:51Speaker 6: are like the Todd mcshay's, the Melchiers, the people who
- 3:54Speaker 6: are just doing mock drafts just to do mock drafts.
- 3:57Speaker 6: You don't have access to other NFL team's boards to
- 4:01Speaker 6: see where players are. So when you're saying, hey, why
- 4:03Speaker 6: why is your board so much different than Daniel Jeremiah.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Let's apologize to Mel. Though Mel is not doing this
- 4:10Speaker 1: willy nilly. He is not doing this just to do
- 4:13Speaker 1: mock drafts. He's doing it because he's the godfather of
- 4:15Speaker 1: mock drafts.
- 4:16Speaker 8: Really, if you're John Lynch, how do you not come
- 4:21Speaker 8: back a dunk on that guy? Be like, oh, where
- 4:23Speaker 8: did everybody else have brock Purdy lined up?
- 4:26Speaker 4: Yes?
- 4:27Speaker 8: Yes, I believe he's taken us to the playoffs. And
- 4:29Speaker 8: then I would point to everybody loves the Jets draft
- 4:32Speaker 8: every year.
- 4:33Speaker 4: How are they doing it?
- 4:34Speaker 1: Well, there's the playoffs every year, that's our super Bowl,
- 4:36Speaker 1: hat our draft. Yes, that's why you and I love
- 4:38Speaker 1: it so much. Because everyone is praising the Jets right now.
- 4:41Speaker 1: It's the only enjoy at Mikey. It ain't gonna last
- 4:43Speaker 1: long they start playing football.
- 4:45Speaker 5: Super So I guess that is my criticism is hey,
- 4:49Speaker 5: be ready for that, because that was a perfectly legitimate
- 4:52Speaker 5: and you know, like we said, normal question, an appropriate
- 4:55Speaker 5: question at the time, be ready with a bit.
- 4:57Speaker 1: But Taylor is right, how do you not dunk on
- 4:59Speaker 1: him in that situation and just roll out the resume?
- 5:01Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying East. He should be better prepared
- 5:04Speaker 5: with that.
- 5:05Speaker 6: So I'm looking at mel Kuiper's winners, losers, and steals
- 5:08Speaker 6: from the draft. Oh god, the forty nine ers had
- 5:11Speaker 6: the worst grade out of the ball teams. According to
- 5:14Speaker 6: mel Kuiper, they had a C the only team that
- 5:17Speaker 6: had a SEE. And then he's comparing where players were
- 5:20Speaker 6: drafted versus where players were on his board. They traded
- 5:24Speaker 6: out of the first round. They draft uh Dejan Stribling
- 5:28Speaker 6: from Ole Miss thirty third. He was seventy third on
- 5:32Speaker 6: mel Kuiper's board. Their next pick, Romelo Height was picked seventy.
- 5:38Speaker 6: Height was one oh seven on mel Kuiper's board, and
- 5:41Speaker 6: then Kaylan Black, the running back from Indiana, went ninetieth
- 5:45Speaker 6: from San or to San Francisco, and mel Kuiper just
- 5:49Speaker 6: mentions he was outside of my top one fifty.
- 5:54Speaker 3: He's the sea.
- 5:55Speaker 5: But wait a second, So everybody in the league did
- 5:58Speaker 5: average were better? I think nobody got to failing grade.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Yeah, because D is still passing.
- 6:05Speaker 6: Yes, I think they've moved away from giving d's and
- 6:08Speaker 6: f's for that's ridiculous.
- 6:09Speaker 5: Then don't call them grades.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Yes, put it on the pole. If you get a D,
- 6:12Speaker 1: are you technically passing? I don't think you are. I
- 6:15Speaker 1: think it's a failure.
- 6:16Speaker 4: Remember plus yeah, plus passes plus.
- 6:19Speaker 5: You remember that poetry competition that I did. Yes, it's supposedly,
- 6:22Speaker 5: at least as far as the kids know you're you're
- 6:24Speaker 5: you're judging on a scale of one to ten, but
- 6:26Speaker 5: they really tell you, hey, judge it on the scale
- 6:28Speaker 5: of six to ten, so you don't make these kids
- 6:31Speaker 5: feel bad. That's that's what this is. Like. We're doing A,
- 6:34Speaker 5: b's and C, so C should really feel like an
- 6:36Speaker 5: f Wait a second, So no one got worse than
- 6:37Speaker 5: a six?
- 6:38Speaker 3: No one?
- 6:39Speaker 5: Oh?
- 6:40Speaker 1: No, How tempted were you? I mean there had to
- 6:42Speaker 1: be some bad poems there. How tempted were you to
- 6:44Speaker 1: give a kid like a two or three?
- 6:48Speaker 2: On?
- 6:48Speaker 3: How many of them deserved a six? Kid? I can't
- 6:51Speaker 3: come on name names.
- 6:53Speaker 5: They're high school kids, man, they did not deserve anything
- 6:56Speaker 5: lower than It's sick.
- 6:57Speaker 6: Yes, I actually know somebody who entered a science fair
- 7:00Speaker 6: competition one time and his category he was the only entry,
- 7:05Speaker 6: but for some reason he didn't reach the the minimum
- 7:08Speaker 6: points requirement, so he got second place. I had a
- 7:12Speaker 6: stand at a podium and was second place, and first
- 7:15Speaker 6: place was just an empty spot.
- 7:16Speaker 3: It's very humbly he fitshed second to an empty spot. Wow,
- 7:22Speaker 3: that's worse.
- 7:23Speaker 5: That's worse than getting a low score.
- 7:26Speaker 4: You lost running unopposed.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Is he just named one kid? I mean.
- 7:36Speaker 5: Brian I was hoping for the last name. Also was
- 7:43Speaker 5: not a Brian.
- 7:43Speaker 1: But there was definitely a kid you gave a six
- 7:45Speaker 1: to two that deserved a two or three?
- 7:49Speaker 5: Judging truly, Yes, let's be honest.
- 7:51Speaker 6: Yes, Jet's got an a minus. According to mel kiper.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Well, I list it's our super Bowl. Wait till they
- 7:57Speaker 1: start playing though. That's the problem. It's an A minus
- 7:59Speaker 1: for Seattle and five years.
- 8:00Speaker 8: I mean, they're the best until its time to play football.
- 8:05Speaker 4: I have an aggregate.
- 8:07Speaker 8: Chart here of the top twenty four draft grades.
- 8:11Speaker 4: Okay, and they're all laid out, and the San Francisco
- 8:13Speaker 4: forty nine ers are ranked thirtieth.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Okay, where are the Jets ranked fourth?
- 8:21Speaker 4: That's ever upsetting.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Everyone is praising the Raiders, the Browns, and the Jets
- 8:26Speaker 1: for having great draft.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Oh you're that bad. You're supposed to have a great draft.
- 8:30Speaker 5: Listen, if you get the number one overall pick, do
- 8:33Speaker 5: not come anywhere close to my list of teams that
- 8:35Speaker 5: did well, Like I don't want to hear it. Like
- 8:37Speaker 5: you have to have like hit a home run with
- 8:39Speaker 5: that first round pick, with that first pick, otherwise you
- 8:42Speaker 5: failed miserably. So if you have the number one pick,
- 8:44Speaker 5: you're not getting an A.
- 8:45Speaker 6: This is gonna sound sacrilegious, I think to mikey A
- 8:47Speaker 6: and Stu Gotts, But I think next year, I'm out
- 8:51Speaker 6: completely on mock drafts.
- 8:53Speaker 3: Really, what do you mean? What are you talking about? Huge?
- 8:55Speaker 1: If you're out on mock drafts, that means you're out
- 8:57Speaker 1: on McShay, you're out on.
- 8:59Speaker 5: Milk Hype, out on Stats and company.
- 9:01Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, what are you doing that? What's happening?
- 9:03Speaker 6: So I'm in on their information. I'm just out on
- 9:06Speaker 6: the process of a mock draft. Where after a draft,
- 9:10Speaker 6: if a mock expert goes six of thirty two in
- 9:14Speaker 6: the first round, yeah, that's a pretty good success for them.
- 9:17Speaker 6: And I don't remember hearing any experts even mentioning the
- 9:21Speaker 6: idea of Carnel Tate. I probably looked at four thousand
- 9:24Speaker 6: mock drafts, from Walter Football to Field Yates to mel
- 9:28Speaker 6: Kiper to Daniel Jeremiah to Bucky Brooks. I don't remember
- 9:32Speaker 6: seeing one person even mentioning the possibility of Carnel Tate
- 9:36Speaker 6: going forward to the Titans.
- 9:37Speaker 1: It was Walter Football. And why was Walter Football not
- 9:41Speaker 1: on the show? They're always bang on their website. Looks
- 9:45Speaker 1: like it's out of like nineteen ninety eight. Really, they
- 9:48Speaker 1: have not updated their website in three decades.
- 9:50Speaker 6: But man, do they have good football information yet?
- 9:53Speaker 3: Walter on the show tomorrow. I want draft grains from Walter?
- 9:56Speaker 3: Can we do that? Walter Football?
- 10:00Speaker 5: You know my favorite, it's funny you say that, Taylor.
- 10:02Speaker 5: My favorite NBA draft website. It's a site called NBA
- 10:05Speaker 5: draft dot net. It's straight out of nineteen ninety six.
- 10:08Speaker 5: Like they maybe updated a little bit with some pictures lately,
- 10:11Speaker 5: but it is old school Walter basketball.
- 10:16Speaker 3: I want Walter. I'm not joking.
- 10:18Speaker 5: Harold Ball, Harold hoops on this.
- 10:20Speaker 6: I'm not even sure if his name is Walter.
- 10:22Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, yes or.
- 10:23Speaker 6: Where the name Walter masking Ricardo if he sees like
- 10:27Speaker 6: an about us on this website.
- 10:28Speaker 3: On this website.
- 10:31Speaker 1: It is odd, though, right that everyone's praising the Raiders,
- 10:34Speaker 1: the Browns, and the Jets for great drafts. It equates
- 10:39Speaker 1: to nothing. Neither of those three teams will make the
- 10:43Speaker 1: playoffs next season.
- 10:44Speaker 5: I thought the only person taking a victory lap was
- 10:46Speaker 5: Dan Orlovsky. He is Ty Simpson got drafted at thirteen,
- 10:50Speaker 5: which made me think he knew something. Yeah, it's one
- 10:53Speaker 5: thing to say he's in first round draft grade. It's
- 10:54Speaker 5: another thing for him to get drafted thirty is at twelve, thirteen,
- 10:57Speaker 5: so high up where it's super confident that it's gonna.
- 10:59Speaker 3: Happen and rams, hey, we get it. Stafford's the quarterback.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Yes, I mean Jesus Christ announcing it the entire weekend
- 11:06Speaker 1: like you heard his feelings by taking.
- 11:08Speaker 3: A backup or a future quarterback, like get out of here.
- 11:11Speaker 1: McVay is all sour about it because Less Snead made
- 11:14Speaker 1: a pick without consulting Sean McVay. I do love how
- 11:18Speaker 1: the La Rams and the San Francisco forty nine ers
- 11:21Speaker 1: getting a little chippy, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:22Speaker 5: Well, they had to have consulted him, though, because as
- 11:24Speaker 5: a report saying that the quarterbacks got a phone call
- 11:27Speaker 5: in the afternoon saying they were gonna draft Tie. So
- 11:29Speaker 5: it's not like I was surprise to McVeigh, right, yeah,
- 11:32Speaker 5: well go ahead to ally.
- 11:33Speaker 6: Less chippy and more no love loss.
- 11:35Speaker 3: He's right, you know, you're right.
- 11:36Speaker 1: I use the wrong phrase. It's not chippy at all.
- 11:40Speaker 1: That would be an NBA playoffs the series. That's Nixon Hawks.
- 11:43Speaker 1: And why are we waiting around for a Game five?
- 11:45Speaker 1: It should be tonight. We have to wait another day.
- 11:47Speaker 1: But you're right, no love loss. I'm sorry, Taylor.
- 11:51Speaker 8: For reference, the Rams draft is thirty one out of
- 11:54Speaker 8: thirty two, really spot below the forty nine ers.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Well, people seem to forget that the guy they drafted
- 11:59Speaker 1: in the first first round was Trent McDuffie.
- 12:01Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, what do you mean, Yeah, it's not
- 12:06Speaker 3: a small deal.
- 12:07Speaker 1: I mean they traded up to get into the first
- 12:09Speaker 1: round to take the quarterback.
- 12:10Speaker 6: So to be fair, what happened there was I was
- 12:13Speaker 6: expecting somebody else to take the ball there, and then
- 12:15Speaker 6: I was looking around and nobody else was supporting you.
- 12:18Speaker 6: So that's why I chimed in with a very very timid.
- 12:21Speaker 5: Yeah, hand up, yeah, hand up. I was looking at
- 12:24Speaker 5: the clock and thinking we probably should break here.
- 12:26Speaker 3: I mean, well they did. They traded up for one
- 12:28Speaker 3: of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. Or they didn't
- 12:30Speaker 3: trade up. They traded to get one of the best
- 12:32Speaker 3: cornerbacks in the NFL.
- 12:33Speaker 6: So I also have an answer for who who is
- 12:35Speaker 6: Walter Football? It's Walter Charapinsky. He created the site in
- 12:39Speaker 6: October nineteen ninety nine, and it says, do not confuse
- 12:43Speaker 6: Walter Cherapinsky with Walter Camp, who was historically known as
- 12:47Speaker 6: the father of American football.
- 12:48Speaker 8: Okay, Walter Football's an upgrade to Chapinsky, say.
- 12:52Speaker 3: And why would I confuse those two?
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- 13:30Speaker 1: We did a lot of MBA earlier today the NBA
- 13:33Speaker 1: Playoffs first round. Pretty good, pretty decent. You could check
- 13:36Speaker 1: it all out at the show before the show. Like
- 13:38Speaker 1: as you just said, Steve Got's a company, we do
- 13:40Speaker 1: a couple of hours before before each show. Taylor has
- 13:45Speaker 1: a beverage.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Take that I'd be interested to hear about.
- 13:48Speaker 4: Here.
- 13:49Speaker 1: We will do Mount Rushmore Monday coming up next hour.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Do we have a topic yet for Mount Rushmore Monday?
- 13:54Speaker 1: Did mikey A choose the topic today?
- 13:57Speaker 4: I did, and I said it yesterday. Yeah, to make
- 13:59Speaker 4: sure I was in front of the ten am deadline.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Well, I would have read it if if not for
- 14:03Speaker 1: your Savannah Banana text over the weekend.
- 14:05Speaker 3: So I was.
- 14:05Speaker 4: Avoiding not an accident, not an accident.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Would you mind telling us what it is?
- 14:11Speaker 4: I mean, tortured fan bases?
- 14:14Speaker 5: Ah, okay, it's a very busy looking mountin Rushmore. You
- 14:17Speaker 5: got to put all the fans on there for one,
- 14:19Speaker 5: all the fans on there for the second one.
- 14:21Speaker 4: All them looking upset.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the first pick has very I need
- 14:26Speaker 1: a clear advantage.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Whoever has the first pick.
- 14:28Speaker 1: I'm just take the jets anyway, Taylor, go ahead, give
- 14:32Speaker 1: us your beverage.
- 14:33Speaker 4: Take here.
- 14:33Speaker 3: What's going on with you?
- 14:34Speaker 1: So?
- 14:34Speaker 6: I was at a wedding this past weekend, open bar,
- 14:38Speaker 6: and this is where I started thinking of it. If
- 14:40Speaker 6: I order a beer, nobody bats an eye.
- 14:43Speaker 3: Right.
- 14:43Speaker 6: If I order wine at a restaurant, nobody says anything.
- 14:47Speaker 6: If I order a coke, nobody says anything. But if
- 14:50Speaker 6: I God forbid order Shirley Temple, everybody looks at me
- 14:55Speaker 6: like I have three heads.
- 14:58Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be like moonshine.
- 15:02Speaker 5: Taylor, There's so many other ways to announce to the
- 15:05Speaker 5: world that you're not drinking and Shirley Temple is the
- 15:07Speaker 5: worst possible way, the worst possible way.
- 15:11Speaker 6: All I'm asking is just make it a little bit
- 15:14Speaker 6: more socially acceptable to go out and order Shirley Temple's.
- 15:17Speaker 6: There's a ton of us out there, A ton of
- 15:20Speaker 6: us out there. I love Shirley Temple.
- 15:21Speaker 3: I'm one of them.
- 15:22Speaker 6: If you go out today, get a Shirley Temple, take
- 15:25Speaker 6: a picture of it and send it to me. We're
- 15:27Speaker 6: rising up. Shirley Gang.
- 15:29Speaker 3: Yes, Shirley Gang Yes United.
- 15:31Speaker 5: The problem, Taylor is not that you're not drinking. It's
- 15:33Speaker 5: that you're drinking a drink that's named after a child
- 15:36Speaker 5: star from the nineteen whatever.
- 15:38Speaker 3: The other problem is he's thirty one years old at
- 15:40Speaker 3: an open bar. I mean seriously, I.
- 15:43Speaker 8: Get mad at my kids when they order him in
- 15:45Speaker 8: a restaurant, like, what do you want to drink? They
- 15:48Speaker 8: could have said Cox Bright, don't care. They go, They
- 15:50Speaker 8: go Shirley Temple. I go, you're not getting that.
- 15:52Speaker 6: This is this is exact question. I say it, and
- 15:54Speaker 6: people are texting my phone right now. What are you
- 15:56Speaker 6: seven years old?
- 15:58Speaker 5: I have no idea with Shirley.
- 16:00Speaker 6: So stigma that Shirley Temples have attached to it is disgusting.
- 16:04Speaker 3: Put that on the ball, Throw up the baby.
- 16:08Speaker 1: It is a mount rushmore Monday here on Stegotson Company.
- 16:11Speaker 1: We'll get to that at around four fifteen. The NBA
- 16:15Speaker 1: Playoffs continue here. The first round taken forever, it's long.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Victor wembin Yama came back last night, is he He
- 16:28Speaker 1: was fantastic. We talked about it during weekken observations. It
- 16:31Speaker 1: was a tale of two halves. Portland got out to
- 16:35Speaker 1: a big lead. San Antonio had a big second half.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Wemby had a big second half. They came back, they
- 16:40Speaker 1: won that game. They lead that series three games to
- 16:42Speaker 1: one as it heads back to San Antonio. Here's some
- 16:45Speaker 1: sound for you if you want to get your thoughts
- 16:47Speaker 1: on this of Victor wembin Yama trying not to be
- 16:50Speaker 1: a distraction while totally being a distraction.
- 16:53Speaker 9: I don't want to get I won't get into the details.
- 16:55Speaker 9: I don't want it to become a distruction. That's again
- 16:58Speaker 9: after the end of the season. Again on the doctors,
- 17:01Speaker 9: especially on the Spurs, but the doctors on a round
- 17:05Speaker 9: they were break took great care of me. But the
- 17:07Speaker 9: way the situation was handled with a very disappointing you know,
- 17:11Speaker 9: not on the spurs again, but I said I won't
- 17:14Speaker 9: pay it to the details. School. I'm not saying that
- 17:17Speaker 9: not playing wasn't a good or bad decision.
- 17:19Speaker 4: It was a decision. I'm not saying it was good
- 17:21Speaker 4: or but, but the way the situation was handled very disappointing.
- 17:25Speaker 3: He talks too much.
- 17:27Speaker 5: Gotten to that point already. I'm one hundred percent with
- 17:32Speaker 5: you because when I first saw I guess the headliner
- 17:35Speaker 5: or whatever, what the story was, I thought to myself.
- 17:39Speaker 5: But just before actually hearing what he said, I thought
- 17:41Speaker 5: to myself Wenby, like hold on to the goods every
- 17:44Speaker 5: once in a while, like keep the cat in the
- 17:46Speaker 5: bag for a little bit, like have an air of
- 17:48Speaker 5: mystery about you, especially when you're winning.
- 17:51Speaker 8: Right.
- 17:52Speaker 5: So, if it was me and I'm Victor Webinya, and
- 17:54Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I know I'm going to get past
- 17:56Speaker 5: this series. I'm going to save all of that for
- 17:59Speaker 5: the media opportunit in between the two series, be like, yeah,
- 18:02Speaker 5: we won this series four to what and you know
- 18:04Speaker 5: what I should have played in game two? Let me
- 18:06Speaker 5: tell you what happened as opposed to the big tas
- 18:09Speaker 5: that he's doing right now, which is like I want
- 18:11Speaker 5: to say something, but I can't say something because it's
- 18:13Speaker 5: going to be a distraction. Well, now now we're all
- 18:15Speaker 5: distracted for the rest of the series. Like when's he
- 18:17Speaker 5: gonna say? What's he gonna say?
- 18:18Speaker 3: Was the problem?
- 18:19Speaker 5: So it says he's got to learn how to navigate
- 18:20Speaker 5: some of these storytelling situations.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Are your doctors good? Are they bad? I have no idea,
- 18:24Speaker 3: ask Kawhi Leonard.
- 18:26Speaker 6: And I'm somehow more confused about what happened with Victor
- 18:29Speaker 6: Webbin Yama today than I was even leading.
- 18:31Speaker 3: Up to it before.
- 18:32Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, he's just hurt. He's something happened
- 18:36Speaker 6: where he got a concussion, he cleared protocol, he made
- 18:39Speaker 6: it back in time for the game. Now after I
- 18:41Speaker 6: hear him talk, I'm like, wait, is this something like
- 18:43Speaker 6: conspiracy theory or something.
- 18:45Speaker 3: It's just odd, like and.
- 18:47Speaker 5: Of all people, you would think the conspiracy would be
- 18:50Speaker 5: working in Victor Webbin Yama's favor, right. The league wants
- 18:52Speaker 5: him to do well. They want him to be at
- 18:54Speaker 5: the center of all these games. They want to turn
- 18:56Speaker 5: a Spurs Blazers playoff series into something interesting, and it
- 19:00Speaker 5: requires him to do so. So it would be weird
- 19:02Speaker 5: if there was some work against him.
- 19:04Speaker 1: The NBA desperately wants this guy to succeed, and for
- 19:07Speaker 1: no other reason, they're tired of Oklahoma City as well.
- 19:10Speaker 3: I mean, well, they're probably tired of KD too.
- 19:15Speaker 9: Well.
- 19:15Speaker 5: The Rockets are the Rocket Well, yes, I think in general,
- 19:19Speaker 5: teams and nets.
- 19:20Speaker 3: At Oklahoma City in Golden State.
- 19:22Speaker 5: And people like myself who want the Rockets to do
- 19:24Speaker 5: well and kind of over it. It is funny, though,
- 19:27Speaker 5: not to switch subjects real quick, but the idea that
- 19:30Speaker 5: people are wondering about Kevin Durant and his commitment to
- 19:33Speaker 5: his teammates. He wasn't out there on the bench in
- 19:36Speaker 5: game three. He was out there in game four. I
- 19:38Speaker 5: saw some clip of somebody sarcastically saying, hey, look it's
- 19:42Speaker 5: KD pretending to laugh with his teammates, so that their
- 19:45Speaker 5: chemistry isn't as bad as everybody says it is. I
- 19:47Speaker 5: don't think their chemistry is that bad at all. In fact,
- 19:50Speaker 5: I think if you actually look at the report of
- 19:52Speaker 5: what Kevin Durant was playing through in game two, it
- 19:56Speaker 5: was a bone bruise and his knee. What is Anthony
- 19:59Speaker 5: Edwards missing this time? I'm with a bone bruise in
- 20:01Speaker 5: his knee, so obviously Katie tried to play through something.
- 20:04Speaker 5: I don't know if they called his missing games three
- 20:07Speaker 5: and four an ankle injury to make up for the
- 20:08Speaker 5: fact that he played through a bad knee and worsened it,
- 20:12Speaker 5: or if he actually injured his ankle. It doesn't really
- 20:14Speaker 5: make a whole lot of sense. And he played through
- 20:15Speaker 5: that second game and didn't come back the next game
- 20:18Speaker 5: if it was an ankle turn But hey, Edwards.
- 20:20Speaker 3: Is kind of interesting. He's not day to day, he's
- 20:23Speaker 3: weak to week.
- 20:24Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he's the type of player that would
- 20:26Speaker 5: go against doctors' orders and try to play anyway. Yes,
- 20:29Speaker 5: he will just wrap it up and as tight as
- 20:31Speaker 5: you can and see what happens. Just why they coumpare
- 20:32Speaker 5: him to Jordan and they should never do that, but
- 20:34Speaker 5: they did. Dangerous Uh what gamer?
- 20:36Speaker 3: He's a game Unlike KD. He's a gamer one hundred percent.
- 20:39Speaker 3: He's a gamer.
- 20:40Speaker 5: And I do think there's a scenario where it just
- 20:43Speaker 5: depends on how bad it is really, But I do
- 20:44Speaker 5: think there's a scenario where if this thing goes to seven. Now,
- 20:47Speaker 5: because you know, those two guys in the back court
- 20:49Speaker 5: aren't there. Edwards and Devincenzo that there'll be some question
- 20:52Speaker 5: marks are out and hey, are you going to try
- 20:54Speaker 5: to play it? Are you going to try to play
- 20:55Speaker 5: in game seven? It's game seven? Blah blah blah. It's
- 20:57Speaker 5: it's the it's your rival in the Nuggets.
- 20:59Speaker 3: But doing just fine without like you don't play him
- 21:01Speaker 3: until you have to play them, right on thousand percent?
- 21:03Speaker 5: Yes, if if I would assume he was going to
- 21:06Speaker 5: give you forty points in any given now, yeah, you
- 21:08Speaker 5: can sit Anthony.
- 21:08Speaker 6: Edwards, right, Anthony Edwards, the rare player who's just what
- 21:11Speaker 6: the doctor ordered, but will also defy the doctor.
- 21:14Speaker 1: D Yes, but you said him until you have to buy.
- 21:21Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, here is he if Lebron keeps this team.
- 21:24Speaker 1: I can't believe Lebron is up for a floaty keeping
- 21:27Speaker 1: his team afloat. Wow, we never had an NBA recipient,
- 21:33Speaker 1: but he is certainly up for a floating Who wasn't
- 21:35Speaker 1: In the NFL, We.
- 21:37Speaker 6: Never handed it out. It was between Davis Mills and
- 21:40Speaker 6: Mac Jones.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Right, a quarterback that keeps their team afloat and playoff
- 21:43Speaker 1: contention until the starter comes back from injury.
- 21:46Speaker 5: Okay, so this is just a floating postseason version of
- 21:49Speaker 5: the floatings in the NBA.
- 21:50Speaker 1: So I am wondering here, if if Lebron and the
- 21:53Speaker 1: Lakers get past the Rockets, and I think that they will,
- 21:55Speaker 1: and I think I think they'll do it in the
- 21:57Speaker 1: next game, they'll win five, and that gives time for
- 22:01Speaker 1: Reeves and Donkach to come back. What are you going
- 22:04Speaker 1: to do with the Lakers in terms of teams who
- 22:06Speaker 1: are favorites to win the NBA Championship, Like you're getting
- 22:10Speaker 1: two guys back then, or your two best players and
- 22:13Speaker 1: you're two rounds away from making it to the NBA Finals?
- 22:16Speaker 6: Is he?
- 22:16Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm just thinking of other floaty contenders. Jaden McDaniels,
- 22:19Speaker 5: big time floaty contender. Are the Lakers a championship contender
- 22:25Speaker 5: with those guys back because.
- 22:27Speaker 1: The Nuggets might be out of it by then, the
- 22:29Speaker 1: Spurs are still going to be there, and ZZZ plus
- 22:31Speaker 1: Oklahoma City of course is going to be.
- 22:33Speaker 5: That's what I was about to say, is let's just
- 22:35Speaker 5: let's be honest with ourselves and say we're having a
- 22:38Speaker 5: conversation about basketball the way we want to see it,
- 22:42Speaker 5: Because if we were being totally honest, we would all say, okay,
- 22:45Speaker 5: if by some chance the Thunder don't win it all,
- 22:48Speaker 5: who is contenders? Right, because we just don't want to
- 22:51Speaker 5: be okay with the idea that all of a sudden,
- 22:53Speaker 5: yeah it's okay, sees world and there's nothing we can
- 22:55Speaker 5: do about it. So number one contender is clearly the Thunder.
- 22:58Speaker 5: But if for whatever reason, whether it be Jaalen Williams's injury,
- 23:02Speaker 5: maybe Shaye, did you see that Shay hasn't missed a
- 23:04Speaker 5: shot in the fourth quarter overtime for like a month.
- 23:07Speaker 5: I'm going to get that exact stat in the second
- 23:08Speaker 5: but uh what, Yes, it's been. It's absolutely It's sad.
- 23:11Speaker 1: You're saying, I hope this is wrong because it seems impossible.
- 23:14Speaker 1: You're saying that that that Sga has not missed a
- 23:17Speaker 1: shot in the fourth quarter or overtime in a month.
- 23:21Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up for you right now. But yes,
- 23:23Speaker 3: I he dunked any of those, I mean just baseline jumpers.
- 23:30Speaker 3: That's a better question. You don't have to look it up, continuing, No.
- 23:32Speaker 5: Well, I'll find it, but I'm not finding right now,
- 23:34Speaker 5: but I'll find it eventually. But yeah, I do think
- 23:36Speaker 5: the Lakers are would be with Luca, if you see
- 23:39Speaker 5: him healthy, if he looks relatively healthy, and if Austin
- 23:42Speaker 5: Reeves can get back to, you know, proper form, I
- 23:44Speaker 5: think they're right there on that second tier of teams,
- 23:47Speaker 5: right behind Oklahoma City. There they can compete with any
- 23:51Speaker 5: team in the Eastern Conference that comes out of there.
- 23:52Speaker 5: Certainly Boston thing about Lucas he's so unguardable and the
- 23:56Speaker 5: way he was playing in March, he became so unguardable
- 23:58Speaker 5: that if you turn that into a playoff scenario, it's
- 24:03Speaker 5: it's ideal, right, It's the overwhelming offense that you can
- 24:05Speaker 5: just go to over and over and over again, and
- 24:07Speaker 5: there's not really a whole heck of a lot the
- 24:09Speaker 5: the opposing team or the opposing defense can do, so
- 24:13Speaker 5: that automatically makes them a contender. It's very similar to
- 24:17Speaker 5: what the Thunder are doing.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Right.
- 24:18Speaker 5: You got this guy in the MVP level right in
- 24:20Speaker 5: the middle of your offense, and then you win around him.
- 24:22Speaker 5: The difference would be how connected the Thunder are defensively
- 24:25Speaker 5: and the Lakers aren't there yet.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Lakers Okac Spurs t Wolves. That's what the NBA wants,
- 24:29Speaker 1: I would think, right, that's what the fan wants. Right,
- 24:32Speaker 1: that's a great final four in the Western Conference right there.
- 24:34Speaker 5: Lakers, Okase, Spurs and t Well. I think Spurs and
- 24:38Speaker 5: I think Wenby versus Jokich is a great matchup. But
- 24:41Speaker 5: I also think Wemby versus Ant is a great matchup.
- 24:43Speaker 5: If Anthony Edwards is going to be back healthy.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Right well, I mean whenever they need him, he'll come
- 24:47Speaker 1: back and he'll be healthy because he's a gamer.
- 24:49Speaker 3: As I pointed out, he's that's why they compare him
- 24:51Speaker 3: to Michael Jordan. They should never do that. That's what
- 24:53Speaker 3: the doctor ordered.
- 24:55Speaker 6: My favorite thing from that series it's the same as
- 24:58Speaker 6: the sixer series two, is he huh? Where these teams
- 25:00Speaker 6: have kind of just admitted, like, hey, our jerseys from
- 25:03Speaker 6: the nineties and the two thousands were so much better.
- 25:07Speaker 6: That's your favorite thing. Yeah, that's because I'm watching Anthony
- 25:10Speaker 6: Edwards out there. When when Anthony Edwards was out there,
- 25:13Speaker 6: and I'm like, man, if I was in the market
- 25:15Speaker 6: right now to buy an NBA jersey, that was somebody
- 25:18Speaker 6: that wasn't Landry Shammitt on the Knicks, where would I
- 25:21Speaker 6: go the Timberwolves Anthony Edwards old school black jersey with
- 25:27Speaker 6: like the green trim on the collars.
- 25:28Speaker 5: The vintage is always great. It also happens to be
- 25:32Speaker 5: it's the only time they ever really associated with the playoffs,
- 25:35Speaker 5: so you might as well bring that feeling back. That's
- 25:37Speaker 5: the same thing with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. The
- 25:39Speaker 5: last time they made any sort of deep run in
- 25:41Speaker 5: the playoffs of win those jerseys. So they're trying to
- 25:43Speaker 5: do that again. But yeah, okay, that makes It's a
- 25:46Speaker 5: perfectly reasonable take to have as a basketball fan.
- 25:49Speaker 3: You cover the league for a long long time. Is real?
- 25:51Speaker 1: Goody eras and I am wondering, Okay, I don't want
- 25:54Speaker 1: to put you in a bad spot.
- 25:55Speaker 3: Fairite jersey ever, but.
- 25:56Speaker 1: The NBA has to be rooting for Lebron and the
- 25:58Speaker 1: Lakers to make it to the end finals.
- 26:00Speaker 3: Correct, They have to is he? Come on?
- 26:03Speaker 1: They have to think about the other options. I would
- 26:06Speaker 1: say Lakers won, Spurs two, OKC three, t Wolves four
- 26:11Speaker 1: in that order, because okay, see, at least you have
- 26:14Speaker 1: the back to backstory.
- 26:15Speaker 5: You don't really hate Kevin Durant, don't you.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Yes, well, and they're not making it to the NBA Finals,
- 26:20Speaker 1: and even they do, he's not gonna play well.
- 26:22Speaker 5: The question is just what the NBA would like to
- 26:24Speaker 5: see with the NBA? Would it be fun for the NBA?
- 26:26Speaker 5: I KD made a run, So we know.
- 26:28Speaker 3: In the East, they'll be fine.
- 26:30Speaker 1: They'll be happy with Boston, They'll be happy with anyone
- 26:33Speaker 1: not playing in the Cavs Raptor series. Okay, But in
- 26:38Speaker 1: the West, I have to think the NBA if you
- 26:41Speaker 1: had Adam Silver in a very very honest moment and
- 26:44Speaker 1: you asked him, Hey, who do you want in the
- 26:45Speaker 1: NBA Finals out of the West, he would tell you
- 26:47Speaker 1: Lebron James.
- 26:48Speaker 5: He would Yeah, I think it's either Lebron or Wenby.
- 26:50Speaker 5: I think the more non avid sports fans that you
- 26:55Speaker 5: bring to the game, that's what the NBA would want
- 26:58Speaker 5: to see.
- 26:58Speaker 3: And that's the two people that are going to do
- 27:00Speaker 3: it for you.
- 27:00Speaker 1: I mean Lebron going for a fifth title right and
- 27:04Speaker 1: doing it in the first round without his two best players,
- 27:07Speaker 1: and winning a floatye and keeping his team afloat and
- 27:10Speaker 1: getting his team to the second round until Luca comes
- 27:12Speaker 1: back and Reeves comes back. They know that Wemby's going
- 27:16Speaker 1: to be here for a while. They don't know if
- 27:18Speaker 1: they're ever going to get another opportunity to celebrate Lebron
- 27:22Speaker 1: the way they could potentially celebrate Lebron and the Lakers.
- 27:25Speaker 5: For that man, it might be too soon for Wemby.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Right.
- 27:27Speaker 6: I hate to pivot this drastically, but I just got
- 27:29Speaker 6: a text that one thousand percent will be in a
- 27:32Speaker 6: Pablo Torre report coming up.
- 27:34Speaker 4: Great.
- 27:35Speaker 6: So this past weekend was a Carolina Football letterman weekend, right,
- 27:40Speaker 6: and their emails that I was getting as a letterman
- 27:43Speaker 6: were like, hey, come here from coach Belichick speak at
- 27:47Speaker 6: this dinner. He was scheduled to speak at a Sunday,
- 27:50Speaker 6: April twenty six dinner, So that was yesterday. I get
- 27:53Speaker 6: a text Belichick no, showed no explanation to the letterman
- 27:57Speaker 6: social and dinner. And then people are connecting the dots
- 28:01Speaker 6: and going to Jordan Hudson's Instagram and Bill Belichick is
- 28:05Speaker 6: being posted going to her cheerleading competition last night. So
- 28:09Speaker 6: that one day Bill Belichick committed to former players at
- 28:12Speaker 6: North Carolina, he attended a cheerleading competition.
- 28:16Speaker 3: You're buying it because I listen. I gotta be honest.
- 28:18Speaker 1: I don't know what's new fake news, Yes, I don't
- 28:22Speaker 1: know what to believe and what not to believe anymore.
- 28:24Speaker 3: I mean, I can tell you for sure.
- 28:25Speaker 5: Klay Thompson and Making the Stallion broke up. That definitely happened.
- 28:29Speaker 5: I thought Belichick broke up with Jordan.
- 28:31Speaker 6: I mean they're going stronger sunger than ever.
- 28:34Speaker 3: Really.
- 28:34Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you were thinking of Sue Bird and
- 28:36Speaker 6: Meghan Repino.
- 28:37Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I was.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I was.
- 28:39Speaker 3: I'm sorry. It always happens.
- 28:43Speaker 5: Preset Button, You're good.
- 28:46Speaker 3: As you know.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company Live.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Whekday said, three pm Eastern, twelve pm Pacific.
- 28:57Speaker 1: All right, I was laughing with Izzie during the updates
- 29:00Speaker 1: a Monsia. I just love when ESPN finds a new
- 29:03Speaker 1: toy and trots it out all over their platforms. And
- 29:05Speaker 1: the new toy these days is Emon Schumper.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Working.
- 29:10Speaker 5: That dude so hard right now, he's on every show Man.
- 29:13Speaker 5: Every time I look at a box on ESPN.
- 29:15Speaker 3: He's in it.
- 29:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:18Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the uh the Mount rushmore Monday. Here,
- 29:22Speaker 1: give me the imaging please, I.
- 29:23Speaker 3: Was thank you there.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Yeah, you the guy with the spreadsheet pretending to work.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Do you find yourself needing up picking up as you're
- 29:34Speaker 2: dragging in your cubicle start the week. Are you ready
- 29:39Speaker 2: to put the sports back in sports talk? Well, then
- 29:44Speaker 2: you're in luck because every Monday we climb the mountain,
- 29:48Speaker 2: we call the legends, and we argue about things you
- 29:53Speaker 2: can't handle the truth that absolutely do not matter and
- 29:57Speaker 2: are completely subjective.
- 29:59Speaker 4: This he is Mount Rushmore Monday.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Monday Monday.
- 30:04Speaker 3: I love it.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Mikey A is our defending champion. Is he is winless.
- 30:08Speaker 1: He's the only one who has it won one. He's
- 30:11Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. But Mikey A, because he won last week,
- 30:17Speaker 1: gets to decide on today's topic. So Mikey A, please
- 30:20Speaker 1: introduce today's topic.
- 30:22Speaker 4: Our topic today is tortured fan bases.
- 30:27Speaker 6: All right, So we randomized the order Ricardo did pre show.
- 30:30Speaker 6: The order is me first, is He second, Stu third,
- 30:35Speaker 6: Mikey A fourth, and then it's gonna snake back around.
- 30:39Speaker 6: That's all I had there, thank your guest. Realize, yeah,
- 30:43Speaker 6: I realized I didn't have much after that, And of
- 30:44Speaker 6: course we finish it off with Ai Colin.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Cowhert Okay, yes for the really right exactly after we're done,
- 30:51Speaker 1: of course, yes, yes.
- 30:53Speaker 6: Yes, So with the first pick for my Mount Rushmore Monday.
- 30:57Speaker 6: Here there's fan bases that have lost more but tortured
- 31:01Speaker 6: I think is a separate tier or separate category. Yes,
- 31:06Speaker 6: my one one Buffalo Bills losing four straight Super Bowls.
- 31:09Speaker 6: It doesn't get more torture than that.
- 31:11Speaker 1: That's pretty bad. They can't win one with Josh Allen.
- 31:14Speaker 1: You're gonna get to a championship game with him? Mazi,
- 31:17Speaker 1: who are you a fan of?
- 31:18Speaker 3: By the way, just I am a fan of a
- 31:25Speaker 3: tortured fan base.
- 31:26Speaker 5: I'll leave it at that. I don't really like to
- 31:30Speaker 5: go here. I just have to go with I believe
- 31:32Speaker 5: is the most obvious pick here.
- 31:35Speaker 3: I gotta say the Cleveland Browns. Okay, that's great.
- 31:40Speaker 5: I mean the Bills were going to be my pick,
- 31:42Speaker 5: and I thought Taylor was gonna let or you know,
- 31:45Speaker 5: let himself down and not obvious.
- 31:47Speaker 3: The Browns is a good pick and obvious pick. It's
- 31:50Speaker 3: probably should have went first.
- 31:52Speaker 1: I'm going to say here now Taylor mentioned Buffalo getting
- 31:55Speaker 1: to four Super Bowls not winning any of them. Can't
- 31:57Speaker 1: win with Josh Allen, but at least they got to
- 31:59Speaker 1: four super bowl that at least they have Josh Allen.
- 32:01Speaker 1: The Jets, they haven't done any of that.
- 32:04Speaker 3: There.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Josh Allen doesn't turn into Josh Allen until he gets
- 32:07Speaker 1: to Seattle seven years later. So, and they've never been
- 32:11Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl in my lifetime. So I'm going
- 32:15Speaker 1: to take the New York Jets here.
- 32:16Speaker 9: Wow.
- 32:17Speaker 1: Just a tortured fan base who always expects the worst.
- 32:20Speaker 1: And when you tell us and you give us A
- 32:21Speaker 1: plus draft grades, we tell you no D plus.
- 32:25Speaker 5: I love that we both left them there for you
- 32:27Speaker 5: and you hate the fact that you have them.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Right, I'm tired of them in my life, I mean Jesus,
- 32:32Speaker 1: And well, listen, maybe they'll finally win me something here.
- 32:35Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right, go ahead, Mike, Yeah they might.
- 32:38Speaker 4: All right, it's me for two here.
- 32:40Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I don't
- 32:44Speaker 8: think any team has.
- 32:48Speaker 4: Discouraged an entire fan base as much as them. It
- 32:50Speaker 4: doesn't even matter what they do in the regular season.
- 32:52Speaker 4: They're just expecting to lose in the playoffs.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Pick.
- 32:54Speaker 8: And then you mentioned losing four Super Bowls. They didn't
- 32:58Speaker 8: do it in a row, but they did four times
- 33:02Speaker 8: in eight years. They haven't been to one since the
- 33:05Speaker 8: Minnesota Vikings.
- 33:06Speaker 6: Vikings is a good pick, but I made a note
- 33:09Speaker 6: for Blair Walsh missed twenty seven yard field goal. That's
- 33:12Speaker 6: that's torture.
- 33:13Speaker 5: That was really bad. I remember that Remimi Harold had
- 33:16Speaker 5: the wrong team winning that game in the newspaper the
- 33:19Speaker 5: next day because Minnesota was winning and Atlanta came back
- 33:21Speaker 5: and won that game.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Is that is that correct?
- 33:23Speaker 1: I would think of the worst miss field goal in
- 33:25Speaker 1: Vikings history has to be Gary Anderson, right, that Vikings
- 33:29Speaker 1: team that lost to the Falcons NFC championship game. Falcons
- 33:32Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl. I think with Chris Chandler
- 33:34Speaker 1: as their quarterback. That was a bad, bad miss. That
- 33:38Speaker 1: team was so good. Robert Smith, Randy Moss, Chris Carter, different,
- 33:43Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore.
- 33:43Speaker 4: Oh my god.
- 33:46Speaker 3: But the Vikings aren't tortured. I don't think.
- 33:48Speaker 6: No, I think they are.
- 33:49Speaker 1: It's not for us to decide, it for the judge
- 33:51Speaker 1: to decide the sun all right, So I'm up again,
- 33:54Speaker 1: yeap tortured.
- 33:55Speaker 3: Fan basis soccer? All of soccer.
- 34:01Speaker 1: I mean, you're sitting around, You're trying to convince everyone
- 34:04Speaker 1: there's gonna be an explosion of US soccer.
- 34:06Speaker 3: There's never an explosion of US soccer. No one cares.
- 34:09Speaker 3: You know, you're waiting around for goals to be scored.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Goals are never scored.
- 34:12Speaker 1: You're just sitting there and you're watching, and you're sitting
- 34:15Speaker 1: there and you're watching, and you're waiting and you're watching,
- 34:17Speaker 1: and finally you get the p ks and oh, soccer
- 34:20Speaker 1: is going to explode, and the World Cup comes around
- 34:22Speaker 1: and then once it's gone, we don't talk about it
- 34:24Speaker 1: again ever, ever, ever, But it's exploding.
- 34:27Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, boys, I think it just became a three
- 34:30Speaker 4: horse race.
- 34:31Speaker 6: To be fair to stew yeah, I wrote US men's
- 34:37Speaker 6: national team.
- 34:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying soccer, yes, just all of it.
- 34:40Speaker 4: Yes.
- 34:41Speaker 5: But then Taylor was smart enough to realize that they
- 34:42Speaker 5: don't actually have fans and so they can't be tortured.
- 34:45Speaker 1: No, they do have fans, and I feel bad for
- 34:46Speaker 1: those fans, always trying to convince everyone else that US
- 34:49Speaker 1: soccer is for real.
- 34:50Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not. Okay, I mean anyway, so I'm
- 34:54Speaker 3: going to US soccer. I'm feeling pretty good about my
- 34:57Speaker 3: chances Jets and soccer.
- 34:59Speaker 6: Just to clarify, do you want the US men's national.
- 35:01Speaker 1: Note, I just want soccer soccer. I just want all
- 35:03Speaker 1: soccer fans. I mean, just constantly fighting for a sport.
- 35:06Speaker 1: No one cares trying to help you out there.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Yep, thank you soccer. That's all I got, got any
- 35:10Speaker 3: specific team, just soccer.
- 35:12Speaker 5: I have so many options that I could go with here.
- 35:14Speaker 5: I feel like we've hit a second tier right now.
- 35:18Speaker 5: I want to say it's my own team that I
- 35:21Speaker 5: am tortured by, which is the Miami Dolphins. But I
- 35:23Speaker 5: can't do that. I mean, we've had certain things that
- 35:25Speaker 5: brought us joy, Dan Marino, Tyreek Hill.
- 35:27Speaker 3: Those are the two. An undefeated season.
- 35:29Speaker 5: I wasn't alive, uh and so, and that's another reason.
- 35:33Speaker 5: Right they had the under season they can hang on to.
- 35:35Speaker 5: So I'm not going to choose them.
- 35:37Speaker 8: Man.
- 35:38Speaker 5: I have a few options. One in college?
- 35:41Speaker 3: Does that count?
- 35:41Speaker 5: Can I do it?
- 35:42Speaker 6: You can't do college? Off to college on my big boys.
- 35:44Speaker 4: I got a few, I got a few, all.
- 35:47Speaker 5: Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a college team only
- 35:50Speaker 5: because I don't want to take an NBA team right here? Okay,
- 35:55Speaker 5: all right, So I'm gonna take the Wisconsin Badgers.
- 35:58Speaker 3: Really the torture of all the college teams, yes, really not?
- 36:03Speaker 3: Iowa think he could have gotten that fourth round.
- 36:05Speaker 5: I definitely could have. Yeah, definitely could.
- 36:07Speaker 6: Wisconsin has like three or four rose Balls in like
- 36:10Speaker 6: last thirty years.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Iowa has road.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's boring one since nineteen fifty nine, which
- 36:18Speaker 1: these defense.
- 36:19Speaker 3: When Wisconsin gets to the Rose Bull, no one watches it.
- 36:22Speaker 3: They see that they're always.
- 36:23Speaker 5: A big teas, they're supposed to be good, and then
- 36:26Speaker 5: they're just blat and they don't do anything. They don't
- 36:27Speaker 5: finish it off. I was always like a gutsy, little
- 36:30Speaker 5: plucky team.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Really, I mean, I would have went Iowa, but I'm
- 36:33Speaker 1: trying to support you nonetheless.
- 36:34Speaker 6: Yeah, So for my snake picks here to end the
- 36:37Speaker 6: second round, I'm going to Seattle Mariners, and I have
- 36:41Speaker 6: a note. As of the end of the twenty twenty
- 36:44Speaker 6: five MLB season, the Seattle Mariners are the only actor
- 36:47Speaker 6: franchise in the MLB to have never appeared in a
- 36:50Speaker 6: World Series, Which is crazy with how many bad teams
- 36:53Speaker 6: there are in the MLB that the Seattle Mariners haven't
- 36:55Speaker 6: even stumbled their way into a World Series.
- 36:57Speaker 8: Yes, Ken Griffy Junior, Big Unit, a rod of each
- 37:02Speaker 8: ye row, all these freaking stars and never made the
- 37:04Speaker 8: World's Series.
- 37:05Speaker 4: It's a good pick.
- 37:05Speaker 1: By the way, we should update this because as he
- 37:07Speaker 1: looked it up during the break. SGA has not missed
- 37:10Speaker 1: a shot in the fourth quarter or overtime since mid.
- 37:12Speaker 3: April one one.
- 37:15Speaker 5: It was mid soccer, mid May. It's a bunch of Yes,
- 37:19Speaker 5: I mean charity March seventeen.
- 37:21Speaker 6: So my my round three pick right here to start
- 37:24Speaker 6: off round three, I'm going to college and I'm going
- 37:28Speaker 6: NC State. Now they have the Jimmy v. National title,
- 37:32Speaker 6: but in that triangle area it's Duke, It's North Carolina,
- 37:36Speaker 6: and then the third like so far down the list
- 37:40Speaker 6: is NC State. They aren't afterthought in that area, and
- 37:44Speaker 6: I think that makes their fan base torture.
- 37:46Speaker 5: There's an entire documentary celebrating your great accomplishment. I don't
- 37:51Speaker 5: think that's torture, just if I'm an NC State fan,
- 37:53Speaker 5: if I'm ever upset.
- 37:55Speaker 9: Three.
- 37:56Speaker 5: Yeah, eleven years more recent than the undertake.
- 38:00Speaker 3: I was with you on the Mariners, Man, but I
- 38:02Speaker 3: can't support and Stid.
- 38:05Speaker 2: It was a good pick by Man's kip, which is
- 38:10Speaker 2: basically a Jets too.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Yes, by the way, it was mid March on SGA,
- 38:14Speaker 1: not mid April. That would not be as in present.
- 38:16Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I correctly, he hasn't.
- 38:17Speaker 3: He's missed one shot in the fourth quarter since mid March.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Like God, anyways, he going.
- 38:25Speaker 5: Okay, I've got to go basketball here, and it's one
- 38:29Speaker 5: of two teams, and I'm just gonna go ahead and
- 38:30Speaker 5: tell you because I don't really care if it comes
- 38:32Speaker 5: back to me. I don't think you're gonna take them.
- 38:33Speaker 5: It's either the Utah Jazz or the Sacramento Kings, and
- 38:36Speaker 5: I can't decide which. You know what, I said it
- 38:38Speaker 5: out loud, The Sacramento Kings at least the Utah Jazz had.
- 38:42Speaker 5: The Utah Jazz are a little like the the Buffalo
- 38:46Speaker 5: Bills of the of the NBA and that they made
- 38:48Speaker 5: it to finals and couldn't win. But the Sacramento Kings, man,
- 38:52Speaker 5: they are just either really frustrated because they had the
- 38:55Speaker 5: one Tim Donaghee series taken away from them and then
- 38:58Speaker 5: haven't been good since it's definitely the.
- 39:00Speaker 6: Case good pick. I had it on my board.
- 39:03Speaker 4: I had them in there.
- 39:05Speaker 3: Nice.
- 39:05Speaker 5: You guys can have the Jazz, It's all.
- 39:07Speaker 6: I actually had a note haven't won a playoff series
- 39:09Speaker 6: since two thousand and four. I don't know if you
- 39:10Speaker 6: said that, I did not.
- 39:11Speaker 3: I was looking at my board, all right, tortured fan base.
- 39:14Speaker 6: How big is your board a few teams left, you'd
- 39:17Speaker 6: be surprised.
- 39:17Speaker 4: No, I mean the medium board.
- 39:18Speaker 3: Taylor's medium board. He as an actual board.
- 39:23Speaker 1: All Right, I'm feeling pretty I could pass the next
- 39:26Speaker 1: two and I think I feel like I still win.
- 39:29Speaker 6: It's one way to describe it.
- 39:31Speaker 1: I'll take the Eagles fan base. Now, it sounds odd
- 39:33Speaker 1: because this team just won a super Bowl. This team
- 39:35Speaker 1: has been to two Super Bowls. But here, imagine, imagine
- 39:39Speaker 1: having the abundance of wealth that Philadelphia Eagles fans haven't.
- 39:43Speaker 3: Still not being happy about anything.
- 39:48Speaker 1: Anytime, any day. They're never happy they win a super Bowl.
- 39:52Speaker 1: They want to cut the quarterback. They want to get
- 39:54Speaker 1: rid of the coach. They get back to the Super Bowl,
- 39:56Speaker 1: they want to get rid of the same quarterback. They
- 39:58Speaker 1: want to get rid of the same coach. I mean,
- 40:01Speaker 1: they go to the offensive coordinator's house, a guy who
- 40:04Speaker 1: just won him a super Bowl, and they throw eggs
- 40:07Speaker 1: at it.
- 40:08Speaker 3: They're a miserable fan base.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Nothing makes them happy, and because nothing can make them happy,
- 40:15Speaker 1: by the way, they won one with Nick Foles not
- 40:18Speaker 1: too long ago. No team is at a better run
- 40:21Speaker 1: over the last decade than Eagles fans and they all
- 40:23Speaker 1: walk around miserable.
- 40:26Speaker 3: You know, you know, as a Jet fan, what I
- 40:28Speaker 3: would give for your last ten years? Not a terrible argument,
- 40:31Speaker 3: thank you.
- 40:33Speaker 1: So the Eagles fan base a tortured fan base, torture
- 40:35Speaker 1: from the standpoint where winning is just.
- 40:37Speaker 4: Not enough, Tortured and angry, different things.
- 40:41Speaker 3: I don't care my list, all right, I'm up for
- 40:43Speaker 3: I have soccer.
- 40:45Speaker 8: I appreciate you guys leaving me this one. How about
- 40:49Speaker 8: a team that's known for not being able to win
- 40:51Speaker 8: a game in a season.
- 40:52Speaker 4: Give me the Detroit Lions, no.
- 40:55Speaker 8: Super Bowls, those Super Bowl appearances, Barry Sanders, Calvin john
- 41:00Speaker 8: been ruined.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Stafford winning elsewhere. I mean, it's a disaster. You're right, yes.
- 41:08Speaker 8: Man, you know what, being in the same town as
- 41:11Speaker 8: the Lakers, never getting further than the Western Conference Finals.
- 41:15Speaker 4: Give me the Clippers.
- 41:16Speaker 6: Tank to your draft, You tank your draft there. I
- 41:18Speaker 6: hate to tell you that. I really don't actually hate
- 41:21Speaker 6: to tell you that either.
- 41:22Speaker 3: You're happy to Okay, what are you talking about? Put
- 41:25Speaker 3: it on the pole and you say you hate to
- 41:27Speaker 3: tell you that? Are you happy to tell you that?
- 41:29Speaker 5: I enjoyed both of those picks by Mikey eight.
- 41:35Speaker 3: I hate to tell you that, No, you don't last
- 41:39Speaker 3: smiling dude, the best part of that? Am I up? Ago, Yes, sir, yeah,
- 41:45Speaker 3: last pick. I don't want to pick the Knicks, that's
- 41:47Speaker 3: so obvious. I don't want to ruin what I have.
- 41:49Speaker 3: I mean, I have a good amount rushmore going.
- 41:53Speaker 9: Sure.
- 41:54Speaker 4: Not for you to say you want the cheaps, I mean.
- 42:00Speaker 5: Not the Patriots.
- 42:02Speaker 3: Jesus, it's been several years.
- 42:05Speaker 1: Listen, imagine Mikey winning a Super Bowl, making it to another,
- 42:12Speaker 1: and still not being happy as a jet fair.
- 42:14Speaker 3: Just imagine that. I want you to imagine that for
- 42:16Speaker 3: a second.
- 42:18Speaker 4: I can't get past winning a super Bowl, so I
- 42:20Speaker 4: can't help you, I know.
- 42:22Speaker 3: Oh God, who do I go live here? I am
- 42:27Speaker 3: so torn?
- 42:28Speaker 5: Bears, Marlins, Harlots, Marlin's house, money for life at the Marlins.
- 42:35Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
- 42:36Speaker 3: Marl See what I do here? I drop some chum
- 42:38Speaker 3: in the border just to gauge reaction.
- 42:40Speaker 1: And we should have done it with soccercles Marlins. I
- 42:44Speaker 1: don't know how many teams in nineteen ninety seven have
- 42:47Speaker 1: have won two World Series.
- 42:49Speaker 3: There's not many, I'm guessing, and the Marlins are one
- 42:51Speaker 3: of those teams, so we'll take.
- 42:52Speaker 4: Them up next time. Stude, just say I don't want
- 42:55Speaker 4: to pick the category, so I won't take it.
- 42:58Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I feel like I want already. It's
- 43:00Speaker 3: like a pointless exercise.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Is Oklahoma City Thunderfins you mean the reigning NBA champions.
- 43:08Speaker 1: I know they won the title, but imagine winning an
- 43:11Speaker 1: NBA title and how tortured you would feel if you
- 43:13Speaker 1: win the NBA title.
- 43:15Speaker 3: And then Taylor comes on the radio and.
- 43:16Speaker 1: Says they lead the league in ZZZ plus and is
- 43:20Speaker 1: he comes on the radio and says, SGA, has it
- 43:23Speaker 1: missed a shot in the fourth quarter or overtime? Okay
- 43:27Speaker 1: in a month and a half, And I say, hey, well,
- 43:30Speaker 1: I mean from the charity stripe, of course he hasn't missed.
- 43:32Speaker 3: Anny.
- 43:34Speaker 1: They never get the credit they probably deserve. I'm a
- 43:36Speaker 1: large part of the reason why. And I feel bad
- 43:39Speaker 1: for Oklahoma City fans because they can't enjoy this.
- 43:42Speaker 5: Let's do Seattle Sonics fans would have been a better
- 43:44Speaker 5: pick for you.
- 43:44Speaker 1: I feel like I'm winning. We'll let Monzi decide. I
- 43:47Speaker 1: mean seriously, yeah, well I feel pretty good about Jets soccer.
- 43:51Speaker 3: Well, I didn't take the.
- 43:52Speaker 5: You're definitely winning. You've got a couple of champions.
- 43:55Speaker 4: Take the Jets, the only thing you've got.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Listen, Manzi when you judge this thing, imagine Okay, people,
- 43:59Speaker 1: I zig when everyone else zags.
- 44:01Speaker 3: Okay, I.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Chose the reigning NBA champions and a team that won
- 44:08Speaker 1: a Super Bowl two years ago.
- 44:09Speaker 5: Okay, hey for effort, I'm deciding between a team and
- 44:14Speaker 5: a player. And you know what, there's only one more
- 44:17Speaker 5: pick after this. So she's a player, and why not
- 44:20Speaker 5: aren't there Lebron James fans? Is that I'm not a
- 44:22Speaker 5: fan base.
- 44:23Speaker 3: We'll see, Okay, Monty.
- 44:25Speaker 5: My my fourth pick is James Harden. James Harden's fans.
- 44:31Speaker 3: James doesn't have anything, James Harden.
- 44:36Speaker 6: I think what we here is three people collectively tank
- 44:41Speaker 6: their drafts at different stages of the draft. Where I'm
- 44:44Speaker 6: looking at my board right now.
- 44:46Speaker 4: You're NC State.
- 44:47Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember taking the Edmonton Oilers.
- 44:49Speaker 6: I think I just have to hit a single right
- 44:51Speaker 6: here to win.
- 44:51Speaker 3: The Canada would be good. I take Canada. Wow.
- 44:55Speaker 6: So Stu was right in going soccer. He just didn't
- 44:59Speaker 6: get specific enough. And my most tortured fan base in
- 45:03Speaker 6: soccer is English soccer fans England soccer fans because they've
- 45:08Speaker 6: won one World Cup in nineteen sixty six and it's
- 45:12Speaker 6: the only thing they care about it. It's always about, Oh,
- 45:15Speaker 6: the trophy, it's coming home, It's coming home. Spoil alert,
- 45:18Speaker 6: the trophy never coming home.
- 45:19Speaker 5: Can we get a ruling on this? If somebody has
- 45:21Speaker 5: taken all of soccer? Did he somehow leave English soccer advance?
- 45:27Speaker 6: Monty can make to this in Manzi?
- 45:28Speaker 3: Yes, we can leave it.
- 45:31Speaker 5: Sure, wow, thank you?
- 45:32Speaker 3: All right?
- 45:32Speaker 1: So do we want to go to Monzy first for
- 45:35Speaker 1: ruling here to select the winner? Or do we want
- 45:37Speaker 1: to go to ai Colin Cowhert first?
- 45:39Speaker 3: What did we want to do here the ruling?
- 45:41Speaker 1: All right, let's get the ruling first here from Monzi
- 45:43Speaker 1: Monzy checker Vemo account by the way, yes.
- 45:46Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 45:46Speaker 3: It's not enough. Okay.
- 45:47Speaker 5: So God.
- 45:51Speaker 3: Coming in at number four.
- 45:53Speaker 7: With the worst draft here is the gentleman who picked
- 46:00Speaker 7: the Eagles fan base.
- 46:03Speaker 6: Just said soccer in general. My family's big soccer fans.
- 46:07Speaker 3: I grew up with it.
- 46:09Speaker 6: You may not talk about it, but soccer is huge.
- 46:11Speaker 5: So I'm sorry, Stu Gotts. I know the Jets suck
- 46:14Speaker 5: and it's rough.
- 46:14Speaker 3: That's a rough fan base.
- 46:15Speaker 6: You definitely are coming in four.
- 46:17Speaker 3: Here, fourth place.
- 46:18Speaker 6: Stu gotts all right?
- 46:19Speaker 3: Coming in at number three, Yeah, no, I'll keep the
- 46:22Speaker 3: Venmo and just make it double next time.
- 46:24Speaker 6: Coming in at number three, it's gotta be it's gotta
- 46:33Speaker 6: be easy.
- 46:34Speaker 5: Kind of. I didn't feel great about this, you know.
- 46:36Speaker 5: When I said Wisconsin out loud, it kind of hurt
- 46:38Speaker 5: my heart.
- 46:39Speaker 3: I should have talked it through.
- 46:41Speaker 5: I should have talked it through. I would have taken
- 46:44Speaker 5: the Edmonton Oilers and I would have won it. But
- 46:46Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Yeah, that would have been better because your
- 46:48Speaker 5: Browns Kings.
- 46:49Speaker 2: I get it.
- 46:49Speaker 6: James Harden fans, I get that one too.
- 46:51Speaker 5: I get it. I get it all right, get me
- 46:53Speaker 5: the winner, the win and it comes.
- 46:57Speaker 3: It's close to you guys, But the winner, the winner,
- 47:00Speaker 3: I know.
- 47:00Speaker 6: But I'm going to say the winner.
- 47:01Speaker 7: Because we're going to figure out if I say, who too,
- 47:02Speaker 7: is the winner is Sam because.
- 47:04Speaker 3: He's like, there's two left.
- 47:05Speaker 5: No, I know the winner got it.
- 47:09Speaker 3: It's going to be.
- 47:09Speaker 7: Because I said to Sam and to Jason, the winner
- 47:12Speaker 7: is going to be whoever picks my.
- 47:16Speaker 3: Clippers.
- 47:17Speaker 7: Mikey you yes, you got the which is also rot
- 47:22Speaker 7: in the NHL Lions are definitely a tortured fan base
- 47:27Speaker 7: and the Clippers I cannot, I cannot stress it enough.
- 47:30Speaker 3: We are a tortured fan base.
- 47:32Speaker 5: We found the one Clippers fan in all of radio,
- 47:35Speaker 5: and that's the person we were picking.
- 47:37Speaker 4: Your research.
- 47:38Speaker 6: Your research, Mikey Pander is officially under protest Research.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Second Research congratulates Michael.
- 47:47Speaker 4: Love when you knock my drafts. Taylor win