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O's begin critical homestand after TB series win · Birdland Territory

0:07
Speaker 1: For the Orioles close, but no Cigar or that four
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Speaker 1: game sweep man they got a few outs away from
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Speaker 1: possibly taking four at the trop would have been stunning.
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Speaker 1: As it is a really good series. It kind of
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Speaker 1: turned a lot of things around here in Birdland and
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Speaker 1: welcome in the latest edition of Birdland Territory with Steve
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Speaker 1: tim and Brad so guys. A seven to six loss
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Speaker 1: Monday Night at Tropicana Field and now comes a critical
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Speaker 1: homestand Yankees four to three rays for three starting out
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Speaker 1: to stretch, wondering can they have a winning record? I
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Speaker 1: think now it's more possible than maybe we thought at
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Speaker 1: the beginning because of this series. What are your guys'
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Speaker 1: thoughts on the week ahead in Birdland at Camden Yards.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: To me, it's it's exciting watching this offense now.
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Speaker 2: I feel like this is the offense we've been finally
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Speaker 2: waiting to see run it all cylinder and just the
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Speaker 2: approaches the team has been making one through one through
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Speaker 2: nine in the lineup to me is extremely encouraging. It's
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Speaker 2: everyone's getting involved and everybody's just having really solid at bats.
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Speaker 2: It's making it really difficult for that Tampa Bay rape
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Speaker 2: pitching staff is really good, and they made them work
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Speaker 2: the entire series and struggle for those four games. Like
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Speaker 2: we said, unfortunately they didn't get it done yesterday. But
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Speaker 2: it's very very encouraging watching what this offense is doing.
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Speaker 2: And for me, the biggest thing moving forward is what
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Speaker 2: we kind of talked about all year. Can they keep
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Speaker 2: the momentum going and they're going back home, it's going
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Speaker 2: to be probably a good crowd, especially against the Yankees,
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Speaker 2: and then you figured this weekend if they're able to
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Speaker 2: have a good series against the Yankees.
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Speaker 3: So just a lot of positives in my mind looking
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Speaker 3: forward for this team.
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Speaker 2: And it's I feel like the most positive it's been
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Speaker 2: for the last i'd say six weeks or so.
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Speaker 3: It's just been has been really consistent baseball.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to look at this from
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Speaker 4: a glass half full perspective.
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Speaker 5: Like last night was disappointing.
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Speaker 4: You were up two runs late in the game and
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Speaker 4: you long, but he took three or four at the
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Speaker 4: trop which everyone would have signed up for heading into
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Speaker 4: that series, with how hot this race team is, with
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Speaker 4: how great of a home team they are.
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Speaker 5: But Brad, I'm with you.
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Speaker 4: I think my biggest reason for optimism right now is
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Speaker 4: this offense. And you can go back their last eight games,
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Speaker 4: they've scored fifty one runs. And I think the biggest
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Speaker 4: thing that sticks out to me about this offense, it's
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Speaker 4: not just one or two guys going right now. You
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Speaker 4: can go up and down this lineup guys Tyler O'Neill
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Speaker 4: for a while has been going. Jackson Holliday over his
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Speaker 4: last thirty three games is hitting over three hundred. Gunner Henderson,
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Speaker 4: the chase rate has gone down exponentially this month, and
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Speaker 4: he's producing. Pete is on an absolute tear. Pete is
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Speaker 4: just putting the team on his back right now, Christian
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Speaker 4: and Karnassi on strand what a godsend he's been. He
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Speaker 4: leads the team in RBI since getting called up in
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Speaker 4: the middle of July. So I think what has me
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Speaker 4: most excited is you got a handful of guys maybe
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Speaker 4: even more, that are all going at the same time
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Speaker 4: right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're right, that offense is clicking. And
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Speaker 1: there's the stat. You gave fifty one runs in eight games,
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Speaker 1: and during the previous seven games they scored eleven runs.
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Speaker 1: In those seven games, they were three for twenty five
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Speaker 1: with runs in scoring position these seven they were twenty
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Speaker 1: one for sixty five, so you see both many more
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Speaker 1: hits and many more chances to have those hits. That
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Speaker 1: to me is the biggest thing here. Twenty five attempts
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Speaker 1: in seven games is not a lot. Sixty five and
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Speaker 1: seven games is more like it. And those clutch hits came,
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Speaker 1: especially that seven run inning the other night, so that
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Speaker 1: was big in Berdland. Like you said, Tim, a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys contributing. It's no shock to me that when
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Speaker 1: we've been waiting for Gunner and Pete to be going
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Speaker 1: together at the same time, this output happened. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying it's only then, because clearly it's much more
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Speaker 1: than them, but a big run for this team. Maybe
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Speaker 1: we're finally going to see the hitting and the pitching
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Speaker 1: come together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be awesome. And I think when you
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Speaker 2: talk about Pete and Gunn are going together, I think
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Speaker 2: it takes a lot of pressure off of everybody else.
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Speaker 2: You don't have to do as much, just kind of
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Speaker 2: get on base and let those guys drive you in.
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Speaker 3: And that's really what I'm seeing.
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Speaker 2: I think that's been the biggest difference watching the approach
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Speaker 2: they've had with runners in scoring position, is they're just
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Speaker 2: trying not to do too much. They're trying to move
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Speaker 2: guys over, they're trying to hit the ball the other way.
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Speaker 2: I really have seen a middle of the field approach,
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Speaker 2: and I know as a for like as a pitcher,
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Speaker 2: those are the worst approaches that you want to face
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Speaker 2: because you want to have guys that are trying to
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Speaker 2: hit the ball out of the yard pull the ball
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Speaker 2: because then they have holes when you're trying to keep
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Speaker 2: the ball up the middle and stay you know, up
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Speaker 2: the middle or opposite field. Those are their bats become
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Speaker 2: really tough, especially with runners in scoring position. And they
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Speaker 2: just did a great job with that this entire series,
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Speaker 2: and even in Minnesota they did a great job with it.
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Speaker 3: Also. It just makes it really difficult.
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Speaker 2: To get that third out when you're trying to get
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Speaker 2: out of innings without letting up runs.
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Speaker 4: And it has to give the pitchers so much more
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Speaker 4: confidence because it's only human nature to think the prior
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Speaker 4: seven game stretch that you were talking about, Steve, where
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Speaker 4: you score eleven runs, if your pitcher, I gotta be perfect.
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Speaker 4: If I make one mistake, I might end up losing.
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Speaker 4: And that happened the night in Arlington with Shane Bonds
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Speaker 4: when he went eight innings, he gave up the two
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Speaker 4: run omer and he took the loss because of it.
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Speaker 4: Where now this offense is producing and the offense is
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Speaker 4: giving themselves a ton of chances. Steve the graphic you
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Speaker 4: flashed up there, twenty one hits with runners in scoring
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Speaker 4: position where they had twenty five chances in the prior
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Speaker 4: Sex Games, they almost have as many hits as they
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Speaker 4: had chances, very similar sample size. So I think that's
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Speaker 4: a testament to this offense right now.
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Speaker 1: So the Aros went three in the series against the Race.
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Speaker 1: They went five and five on that road trip which
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Speaker 1: started poorly and finished well. They are seven and six
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Speaker 1: since the trade deadline and they begin today this homestand
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Speaker 1: starting at Camden Yard to night against the Yankees, tied
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Speaker 1: for the wild card lead, a third wild card in
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Speaker 1: the American League. So this race is going to be interesting.
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Speaker 1: The Euros finally caught other teams and now we see
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Speaker 1: if they can surpass them and keep it going. So
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Speaker 1: we got a lot to do today on the show.
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Speaker 1: We're going to touch on some of the pitchers struggling
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Speaker 1: a little bit. What's up with that. We'll check in
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Speaker 1: on that in a minute and more as we roll
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Speaker 1: Com Burdland Territory. Continuing on the show today, here is
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Speaker 1: an interesting stat and I don't think a lot of
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Speaker 1: people realize this stat. Against the current AL Division leaders,
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Speaker 1: the Orils are six and four versus Tampa, four and
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Speaker 1: two versus the White Sox, five and one against Houston,
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Speaker 1: they have a six eighty two winning percentage against American
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Speaker 1: League Division leaders. And oh, by the way, they have
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Speaker 1: swept each one of those three teams this year. They
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Speaker 1: almost had two sweeps against Tampa. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: to make of that. It's crazy because then the other
8:19
Speaker 1: question comes, well, how they have such a more record. Well,
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Speaker 1: they have their six games under against the National League,
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Speaker 1: or two and five against the Yankees, or one three
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Speaker 1: against Cleveland. You can see how the math works. But
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Speaker 1: this is a little surprising to me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely they have a winning.
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Speaker 1: Record against these teams, but look how good it is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a very honestly surprising stat that when
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Speaker 2: you would think if you're fifteen and seven against those
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Speaker 2: three teams you have up on the screen, I mean,
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Speaker 2: you'd be well above five hundred, or at least above
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Speaker 2: five hundred, and they're still struggling to get above five hundred.
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Speaker 3: So it's just interesting.
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Speaker 2: It goes to show that it's the major leagues and
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Speaker 2: every single game counts exactly the same, and it's at
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Speaker 2: the end of the year, it's not who you beat,
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Speaker 2: it's how many times you win. So it's just it
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Speaker 2: goes to show about the marathon of the season and
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Speaker 2: it's all coming down to these last thirty something games
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Speaker 2: they have left, and you just got to hope that
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Speaker 2: they can continue. They're gonna be playing some of the
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Speaker 2: better teams in baseball and nationally again American League here
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Speaker 2: moving forward, So you just got to continue to play
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Speaker 2: good baseball against no matter who you're playing, and give
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Speaker 2: yourself a chance to get into this playoff mix.
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Speaker 4: Steve adding another stat that makes no sense, and that's
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Speaker 4: that's crazy. But the Orioles have a winning record against
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Speaker 4: teams above five hundred. So what that means is they
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Speaker 4: have a losing record against losing teams.
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Speaker 5: Which is total Bizarro Land.
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Speaker 4: But Steve, you pointed that out so many times throughout
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Speaker 4: these episodes, where you know what this Orioles team is
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Speaker 4: capable of because they've beaten all of these top teams.
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Speaker 4: They just took three or four against the Rays, who
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Speaker 4: had the best record in baseball heading into that. They
9:57
Speaker 4: won their last series against the Yankees, a series in
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Speaker 4: LA against the Dodgers, should have swept that series. They've
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Speaker 4: beaten a lot of these top teams, and obviously the
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Speaker 4: record against teams above five hundred indicate that.
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Speaker 1: And over the years, when the Oils are floundering and
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Speaker 1: they won some games, fans would always come back with,
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Speaker 1: yet beat somebody good, and now I'll get my attention.
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Speaker 1: Well they have. They have done that. That's the point,
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Speaker 1: and that's the point we've made on the show a
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Speaker 1: couple times this year, is look at what the potential is.
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Speaker 1: If you're beating some of these teams, you have the
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Speaker 1: potential to do it more often. So maybe we're finally
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Speaker 1: going to see it. So that brings us to this
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Speaker 1: stat The Yankees took four straight from the Orioles earlier
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Speaker 1: this year by a thirty nine to ten score. The
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Speaker 1: Oriols did not have one lead in that four game series.
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Speaker 1: So not a couple week later, they came to Camden
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Speaker 1: Yards and the Oils won two out of three by
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Speaker 1: a twelve to eight score. Very different run scoring in
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Speaker 1: that second series. So they're two and five against the
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Speaker 1: Yankees and they're three and thirteen against the Yankees. Op,
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Speaker 1: so that hurts to say that one. So this is
11:06
Speaker 1: a good time to show they can beat the Yankees.
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Speaker 1: They have a good chance. Jaron Judges not playing free,
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Speaker 1: just went on the injured list. Yes, Garrett Cole's going
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Speaker 1: to pitch for a Don's coming back apparently tonight tonight,
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Speaker 1: what better time to show you can beat the Yankees.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, completely agree, Steve.
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Speaker 2: I think right now is kind of a time you
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Speaker 2: want to face them without Judge and Daland's coming back.
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Speaker 2: But apparently he could have used one or two minor
11:32
Speaker 2: league starts, but he wanted to come back to the
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Speaker 2: big league. So they're saying tonight they don't know what
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Speaker 2: his pitch count is going to be. To me, it's
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Speaker 2: it's a great opportunity at home to keep them momentum going,
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Speaker 2: like we've harped on over and over and maybe maybe
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Speaker 2: me almost too much at this point. But it just
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Speaker 2: really it just goes to show you just got to
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Speaker 2: especially against Indivision rivals, and when you're right there, you
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Speaker 2: control your own destiny. At this point, you're tied for
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Speaker 2: the wildcard. You just have to keep them momentum going,
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Speaker 2: get into this bullpen, get them in there early, and
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Speaker 2: really take advantage of kind of the Yankees team that
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Speaker 2: is kind of waiting for everybody to come back and
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Speaker 2: to get healthy. And I just feel like it's a
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Speaker 2: perfect opportunity to go and take at least two of
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Speaker 2: three and just keep this going and get ready to
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Speaker 2: play the Rays again this weekend coming up.
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Speaker 4: It is funny to say this with how it's been
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Speaker 4: the opposite all season long, Like I'm keeping an eye
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Speaker 4: on the pitching here. How are these guys going to
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Speaker 4: bounce back? Where Shane Boz He's coming off the shortest
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Speaker 4: outing of his season where he just went three innings,
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Speaker 4: and how's he going to respond tonight against the Yankees.
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Speaker 4: Bassett he did really well pitching around some traffic at
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Speaker 4: the trop over the weekend, going up against the Yankees,
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Speaker 4: a team he's done really well against throughout his career.
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Speaker 4: And then of course Bradish who talked about not having
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Speaker 4: his best command his last time out. This offense is
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Speaker 4: in a groove. It's kind of funny to say this.
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Speaker 4: I'm expecting them to hit this series, even with Rodan,
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Speaker 4: even with Cole, I'm expecting this offense to hit where Now,
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Speaker 4: if this pitching holds up their end of the bargain,
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Speaker 4: this team's going to have a really good shot at
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Speaker 4: winning this series against the Yankees.
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Speaker 1: On paper, Surprisingly, the Orioles runs per game outscore the Yankees,
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Speaker 1: believe it or not, over the full season. The pitching
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Speaker 1: is the disparity. The Yankees not only have the best
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Speaker 1: ERA in the American League, they have the best team
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Speaker 1: ERA in Major League Baseball three twenty six. They have
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Speaker 1: the best rotation ERA in Major League Baseball, second in bullpen.
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Speaker 1: So there you go, Tim got, you know, real test
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Speaker 1: for the offense if it's cooking as it has here,
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Speaker 1: eighty one runs the last fifty or what is it,
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Speaker 1: fifty one runs the last eight games.
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Speaker 4: Well, and Steve, you know, like we were saying, the
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Speaker 4: Rays had a heck of a pitching staff themselves and
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Speaker 4: they couldn't figure out this Orioles offense. So I think
13:49
Speaker 4: you got to give the Os offense credit. You know,
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Speaker 4: it's not like they were beating up against the worst
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Speaker 4: team in baseball. It was quite the opposite over the weekend.
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Speaker 4: So I think this is another big test for them,
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Speaker 4: and I'm excited to see it because this team, we
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Speaker 4: said it someday like that, they seem like they're in
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Speaker 4: such a good headspace.
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Speaker 5: They seem like they're playing a really loose.
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Speaker 4: Brand of baseball where I don't know if we could
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Speaker 4: have said that a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, and what makes that happen? I don't
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Speaker 1: think anybody in baseball knows the answer to that question.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I've always heard the expression breeds success, breed success.
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Speaker 2: It's you can't put an equation to it. There's no
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Speaker 2: perfect science to it. It's just when everybody starts to
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Speaker 2: feel good, they start. I mean, they were borderline cocky
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Speaker 2: at times this series with some of the gestures they
14:42
Speaker 2: were making towards after some home runs and Brian Baker
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Speaker 2: gave it back to him. So that'll be interesting to
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Speaker 2: see this weekend here at Camery Yards against the Rays again.
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Speaker 2: But this is a confident bunch right now, and I
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Speaker 2: just think it's kind of that cloud of the trade
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Speaker 2: deadline is finally gone, and I think that's moved on,
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Speaker 2: and everyb knows that there's gonna be nobody walking through
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Speaker 2: the door that's gonna, you know, come to this team
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Speaker 2: or is gonna be leaving. You still have Samuel Basil
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Speaker 2: that is going to be joining this offense here soon,
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Speaker 2: which is will be another boost and I'll be nice
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Speaker 2: to have back. So I just think it's a very
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Speaker 2: confident bunch right now, and I think I think they're
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Speaker 2: finally showing what they've always talked about all season about
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Speaker 2: how much confidence they have with each other, how much
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Speaker 2: they believe in one another.
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Speaker 3: Even last night when they.
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Speaker 2: Gave up that lead, I'm watching that game thinking they're
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Speaker 2: gonna score tw runs, They're gonna win this game. That
15:27
Speaker 2: was just me as a former player, as a fan
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Speaker 2: watching that game. There's just something about this team. They
15:32
Speaker 2: were one hit away from tying that game back up
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Speaker 2: and taking the lead. So for me, there's just a
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Speaker 2: different different confidence and a different way they seem to
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Speaker 2: be playing in the last especially the offense side of things,
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Speaker 2: in the last six to seven days, that just looks different.
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Speaker 4: And Steve also think about how Kevin Cash was managing
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Speaker 4: that game last night. Brian Baker, he's never gone more
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Speaker 4: than an inning. He had a five out save. He
15:57
Speaker 4: knew how important it was to avoid being swept in
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Speaker 4: a four game set to where they put Baker out
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Speaker 4: there to close out the game with five outs to go.
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Speaker 1: Sounds crazy to say it, but his team in first
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Speaker 1: place needed to prove they could beat the Orioles. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they lost sixth straight. They weren't scoring a lot of
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Speaker 1: runs against the Oriols, even I've scored two to one
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Speaker 1: in those games, and they kind of needed to secure
16:21
Speaker 1: that win. And as you said, he almost managed that
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Speaker 1: like it was a game in October, and Brian Baker
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Speaker 1: came up big for him. The former Oriols having a
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Speaker 1: great year. All Right, we said we're gonna touch on pitching.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna touch on pitching better late than ever. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna get to that in a minute as we continue
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Speaker 1: here on Birdland Territory.
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Speaker 1: So Brandon Young started Monday night for the Oriols. He's
17:44
Speaker 1: been so good this year, but recently he's been a
17:47
Speaker 1: little more hittable. In his last four games. His THERA
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Speaker 1: is five forty, taking his season the RA up to
17:54
Speaker 1: three fifty two, and he's had three or four outings
17:58
Speaker 1: have been less than six for four plus five plus
18:02
Speaker 1: something like that. So, Brad, there's been discussion about the
18:05
Speaker 1: innings he's over at the most innings he's ever thrown
18:08
Speaker 1: in his life. He also mentioned a finger issue after
18:12
Speaker 1: the game last Night's first I've heard that, So maybe
18:15
Speaker 1: one or both it's contributing to his performance being a
18:19
Speaker 1: little less than recently.
18:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think it's kind of it's
18:23
Speaker 2: a mental hurdle. It's a physical hurdle to kind of
18:25
Speaker 2: get over when you've thrown the most innings your entire
18:28
Speaker 2: life in your career, doing it at the big league
18:30
Speaker 2: level is tough. And he's been up there pretty much
18:33
Speaker 2: since April or the end of April. I think he's
18:35
Speaker 2: been up in the big leagues. And when you're pitching
18:37
Speaker 2: that many innings for the first time, it's tough, no
18:39
Speaker 2: matter who you are, no matter how good you are.
18:42
Speaker 2: It's a definitely mental hurdle to get over to pitch
18:45
Speaker 2: that long in the big leagues for an entire season
18:47
Speaker 2: and sustain success. And he's been grinding these last three
18:50
Speaker 2: or four or five outings he's had. It's been it's
18:52
Speaker 2: been a grind. His pitch out has kind of gotten
18:54
Speaker 2: up there, and I think he's just been kind of
18:56
Speaker 2: I think he's held he's held it afloat. He hasn't
18:59
Speaker 2: really Donkey hasn't had one of those really really bad outings,
19:02
Speaker 2: But he also hasn't had the outings we've kind of
19:05
Speaker 2: almost grown to expect, which is kind of crazy when
19:07
Speaker 2: you think about it to the beginning of the season,
19:09
Speaker 2: but you know, it could be one of those things
19:11
Speaker 2: where it just takes these couple outings and then he
19:13
Speaker 2: finds his footing again and kind of hits his second, third,
19:16
Speaker 2: fourth win of the season and is able to carry
19:18
Speaker 2: that through the end of the year. But it's definitely
19:20
Speaker 2: a tough thing to go through and throw the most
19:22
Speaker 2: amount of innings in your life, most of them at
19:24
Speaker 2: the big league level for the first time.
19:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, his career high was one hundred eleven in twenty
19:31
Speaker 4: twenty four, then he threw ninety one last year. He's
19:33
Speaker 4: already at one hundred and thirty four in a third
19:36
Speaker 4: innings and Brad, you know a heck of a lot
19:39
Speaker 4: more than me. But when I'm just looking at is
19:41
Speaker 4: his monthly splits. The couple things stand out to me.
19:45
Speaker 4: In the month of August, his four seam fastballs legitimately
19:49
Speaker 4: one of the best fastballs in the majors. It's getting hit,
19:52
Speaker 4: and it's getting hit hard. A three seventy batting average
19:55
Speaker 4: with a six thirty slug. The other thing that really
19:58
Speaker 4: stands out to me, we know at various points this
20:02
Speaker 4: season he's really leaned into the splitter.
20:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's lost confidence in the splitter.
20:08
Speaker 4: Where you look month over month, in July it was
20:12
Speaker 4: the second most thrown pitch that he had and it
20:16
Speaker 4: was hit three sixty that month. This month, Brad, he's
20:20
Speaker 4: thrown at the least out of all of his pitches
20:23
Speaker 4: and it's getting hit five hundred batting average off of that.
20:27
Speaker 5: Are you seeing anything with this sequencing is pitching?
20:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it really is just kind of losing
20:33
Speaker 2: confidence in a little bit. And I think the reason
20:35
Speaker 2: it starts to hit so much better is when guys
20:38
Speaker 2: can kind of it's almost like he's getting to predictable
20:42
Speaker 2: counts when he's throwing it when he's either super ahead
20:45
Speaker 2: or he's trying to get it to the wipeout pitch.
20:48
Speaker 2: When your sequence in becomes a little predictable, that's when
20:51
Speaker 2: I feel like the average is kind of boost off.
20:53
Speaker 2: It's not like anything has changed a ton in his
20:56
Speaker 2: you know, metrics or anything like that. I just think
20:58
Speaker 2: it's more of not getting hitters counts. Like especially yesterday,
21:01
Speaker 2: I feel like he was behind a lot of the
21:02
Speaker 2: time and he's been throwing. Yesterday, I think he threw
21:05
Speaker 2: like only thirty forty strikes. I think it was at
21:08
Speaker 2: one point during the game. And when that starts happening,
21:10
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what you throw, guys are going to
21:12
Speaker 2: start hitting it. And for me, when I think back
21:14
Speaker 2: to the splitter, this is a new grip. This is
21:17
Speaker 2: something that he's kind of changed a couple of months ago.
21:19
Speaker 2: And when you start throwing a new pitch, you might
21:21
Speaker 2: have it for a couple months, and all of a sudden,
21:23
Speaker 2: it's like you have a couple outings then oh wow,
21:25
Speaker 2: that didn't feel the same.
21:26
Speaker 3: Maybe I should do this, Maybe I should do that.
21:29
Speaker 2: They obviously have a lot of technology that can help
21:31
Speaker 2: them get back to feeling more confident with it.
21:33
Speaker 3: But when you lose feel for a.
21:34
Speaker 2: Pitch and you don't have the confidence behind it, that's
21:37
Speaker 2: really when stuff can go south. And I just I
21:40
Speaker 2: hope you can just kind of get back into leaning
21:41
Speaker 2: into the four seam and just locating it better. To me,
21:44
Speaker 2: that's that that makes everything better for him, is when
21:46
Speaker 2: he's able to locate the four seamer and then he
21:48
Speaker 2: kind of pitched off of that. I know it's pitching
21:50
Speaker 2: one on one, but that's really what you got to
21:52
Speaker 2: lean onto when you when you're getting tired, when you
21:54
Speaker 2: don't have your confidence, when things haven't been going right.
21:57
Speaker 3: You just got to get back to the basics, almost Steve.
22:00
Speaker 4: I know we always bring up the joke over one
22:03
Speaker 4: pitch away, a couple pitches away from a good outing,
22:05
Speaker 4: but this is something that we brought up a lot
22:08
Speaker 4: with Trevor Rodgers when he was really going through his struggles.
22:12
Speaker 4: Look at the three home runs that he gave up yesterday,
22:14
Speaker 4: they were all with two strikes. Porge Mateo was down
22:18
Speaker 4: two in the count. He ended up hitting that ball
22:21
Speaker 4: out to take the lead. So you know, you put
22:23
Speaker 4: away those guys, it's a much, much, much different ballgame
22:27
Speaker 4: and start.
22:28
Speaker 5: For Brandon Young, that.
22:29
Speaker 1: Was one that was a one pitch away from a
22:32
Speaker 1: big difference. Because Jorge Mateo, as we know Chase, is
22:35
Speaker 1: a lot. When you have him o two, the last
22:39
Speaker 1: pitch you want is a hanging breaking ball, anything else
22:43
Speaker 1: down or up he might, he's gonna chase it and
22:45
Speaker 1: strike out. He hung one right in his wheelhouse, the
22:49
Speaker 1: one spot he couldn't throw it. So Brandon's has gone
22:52
Speaker 1: from seldom missing his spot to more often missing his
22:55
Speaker 1: spot and in some cases in a critical spot there
22:59
Speaker 1: you lose by one. You gave up a two run
23:01
Speaker 1: homeer and a hangar to Jorge, So you know he
23:04
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Speaker 1: Fan, And I'm not sure what to make of you
23:35
Speaker 1: near Canoe struggles either. This came out of nowhere. He
23:38
Speaker 1: had a stretch where fifteen games coming into Tampa, he
23:42
Speaker 1: gave up one earned run in thirteen and two thirds
23:44
Speaker 1: he was rolling. So people are saying this morning he's
23:47
Speaker 1: been struggling throughout the year. That is absolutely not correct.
23:51
Speaker 1: His era was one ninety nine going into Campa Bay,
23:53
Speaker 1: by the way, and in two outings he pitched a
23:56
Speaker 1: combined two thirds one he didn't even get it out
23:59
Speaker 1: and he gave up six runs, three runs twice, and
24:02
Speaker 1: so I don't know what happened. He One remark he
24:06
Speaker 1: made is he struggles against Tampa. Maybe that's what that
24:09
Speaker 1: was as all it was. I don't know, but that
24:13
Speaker 1: was kind of jarring to see him go from pitching
24:15
Speaker 1: great to really struggling.
24:17
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this, I think it was Jacob Calvin
24:19
Speaker 4: Meyer who tweeted out these numbers, Steve, he really struggles
24:23
Speaker 4: against Tampa. Obviously, just this season alone, two innings, nine hits,
24:28
Speaker 4: eight runs. But you look at the rest of his
24:32
Speaker 4: career versus Tampa, he's got a six six four eer,
24:36
Speaker 4: a one four to three whip and twenty and a
24:39
Speaker 4: third career innings against the Rays. And whenever I see
24:43
Speaker 4: some of these things, Brad, I always think back to
24:46
Speaker 4: when we had Britain on a couple months ago, where
24:48
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, sometimes particular guys, particular teams, for whatever reason,
24:54
Speaker 4: just to have your number.
24:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and it's it's the most frustrating thing ever,
24:58
Speaker 2: especially when it's you just a it's not one of
25:00
Speaker 2: the four teams in division, because you know you have
25:02
Speaker 2: to face them at least thirteen games this season, So
25:04
Speaker 2: it's it is. It's just one of those things. I
25:06
Speaker 2: think it's probably in his head at this point. I
25:08
Speaker 2: think he just feels like he knows he struggles against
25:12
Speaker 2: the Rays, and I think it's just getting out of
25:13
Speaker 2: his head. But the one thing I noticed yesterday too
25:16
Speaker 2: was that when he hit Yanni Diez on that two
25:18
Speaker 2: seamer running in his hand was really getting on the
25:21
Speaker 2: side of the baseball. And when yan Erko's at his best,
25:24
Speaker 2: he is up to down. His sinker is a true
25:27
Speaker 2: bottom out, almost like a split finger sinker. So he
25:29
Speaker 2: throws his fastball that's ninety five ninety seven and he
25:32
Speaker 2: goes straight north to south. Yesterday he had everything was
25:36
Speaker 2: kind of running, and when it starts running like that,
25:38
Speaker 2: it flattens out. It becomes way more hittable for these guys.
25:41
Speaker 2: And I just think it's it's just a little bit
25:43
Speaker 2: of a mechanics thing. He's got the mental side of things.
25:46
Speaker 2: I don't pitch ball against Tampa on the back of
25:47
Speaker 2: his mind, and then when you can't locate exactly everything
25:50
Speaker 2: you want to do, it just becomes difficult. And you
25:53
Speaker 2: when you are a sinkle baller and you're getting on
25:55
Speaker 2: the side of pitches, everything just really becomes way more
25:59
Speaker 2: east to west, and when you start doing that, it
26:01
Speaker 2: just becomes easier to hit. And it's not like he's
26:03
Speaker 2: getting crush around the field. It's not like he's given
26:05
Speaker 2: up home runs. He had a ball that bounce right
26:07
Speaker 2: from a home plate that unfortunately bounced over with their
26:09
Speaker 2: basement's head yesterday.
26:10
Speaker 3: But when you're a.
26:11
Speaker 2: Sinkerballer, you live and die by the ground ball, and
26:13
Speaker 2: unfortunately he just wasn't able to get the ground ball
26:16
Speaker 2: that he needed yesterday. And they're just they see him well,
26:19
Speaker 2: and I think their approach against him is really good.
26:22
Speaker 2: It's kind of just see the ball up and just
26:24
Speaker 2: kind of hit it where it's Pitcher're not gonna do
26:26
Speaker 2: much damage with it, but just kind of see where
26:28
Speaker 2: it's hit and go from there. And I think they
26:30
Speaker 2: really do a good job one through nine in that
26:32
Speaker 2: lineup just sticking to that approach against him.
26:36
Speaker 1: So maybe euro Fans will hope it is about more
26:39
Speaker 1: the opponent cano face than anything going on with him.
26:42
Speaker 1: How here's this big series with the Yankees. They're gonna
26:46
Speaker 1: need him in there somewhere, and do they Brad just
26:48
Speaker 1: go right back to him in the same spot at
26:50
Speaker 1: the same time when they need him.
26:52
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Craig Alvern has just showing that
26:54
Speaker 2: all year. It's kind of he's got his guys that
26:56
Speaker 2: pitch late in the game. He doesn't really straight from
26:58
Speaker 2: that much, but right now Am Sanders kind of seems
27:01
Speaker 2: like he could step in and kind of push canoe
27:03
Speaker 2: up just a little bit, get his feedback under him.
27:05
Speaker 2: But I mean, the guy's a Swiss army knife. We
27:07
Speaker 2: talked about him last outing and he has just been unbelievable. Yesterday,
27:11
Speaker 2: I think that might have been the best outing we've
27:13
Speaker 2: seen two just shut down innings right when they needed
27:15
Speaker 2: it to get back in that game and take the lead.
27:17
Speaker 2: And I just think he's done such a good job
27:19
Speaker 2: and his stuff is it really good, And I think
27:22
Speaker 2: they really found a gem in the rough there with him.
27:25
Speaker 2: And I mean ninety seven ninety eight with his fastball,
27:27
Speaker 2: a really really good change up that he started showing
27:30
Speaker 2: yesterday a little bit more and then a wipe out slider.
27:32
Speaker 2: And to me, when you have three league pitches as
27:34
Speaker 2: a reliever. That's a huge weapon to have. And I
27:37
Speaker 2: think him and Hoppy have really, really kind of shown
27:39
Speaker 2: they can be used in bigger spots for this team
27:41
Speaker 2: and really help out this bullpen.
27:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, Brad, I mean
27:46
Speaker 4: you think of and you can even throw Josh Walker
27:48
Speaker 4: in there too. Where these unheralded guys, guys that have
27:53
Speaker 4: bounced around the bit, they've stepped up since the trade deadline,
27:57
Speaker 4: and given how Michaelay operated, we were wondering could they
28:01
Speaker 4: add to this bullpen you end up subtracting trading Tyler
28:05
Speaker 4: Wells to the rais.
28:06
Speaker 5: You needed guys like this to step up, and so
28:09
Speaker 5: far that trio has.
28:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially yesterday when it's great you brought up
28:14
Speaker 2: Josh Harkers. I was gonna talk about him and his
28:16
Speaker 2: outing yesterday that I feel like two months ago that
28:19
Speaker 2: game gets out of hand, but now they are making
28:21
Speaker 2: the pitches when they need to. The ground ball to
28:23
Speaker 2: the gunner made a great play but kept it a
28:25
Speaker 2: one run game. I feel like a couple of weeks
28:27
Speaker 2: ago would have turned into a three, four, five run game.
28:30
Speaker 2: And you kind of go, ah, that one got away
28:32
Speaker 2: from us. But the bullpen has done a good job
28:34
Speaker 2: of coming in putting out these fires, and they're really
28:37
Speaker 2: just doing a good job of piecing it together. It's
28:38
Speaker 2: not the same guy pitching every single inning. They're piecing
28:41
Speaker 2: it together, right, And I think Craig Alvins is really
28:43
Speaker 2: starting to find a rhythm with these guys.
28:45
Speaker 3: To me, it's kind of up in the air, but
28:47
Speaker 3: I know that's how baseball is now and how bullpens
28:49
Speaker 3: are run.
28:49
Speaker 2: They're finding the right spots for guys, and I just
28:51
Speaker 2: think they're all kind of excelling in the right spots
28:54
Speaker 2: when they're out there in the game whenever he puts
28:56
Speaker 2: them out there.
28:59
Speaker 1: Okay, Homer prediction, I've got the Oils taking two of
29:02
Speaker 1: three from the Yankees, true to true to Steve's form.
29:06
Speaker 1: How about the two of you.
29:07
Speaker 2: No, I think so, Steve. I think they're they're really
29:10
Speaker 2: I feel like they've turned a corner. I know We've
29:12
Speaker 2: said this multiple times, but I really do feel like
29:14
Speaker 2: they've turned a corner and they have confidence, which I
29:16
Speaker 2: feel like we have not seen this team have in
29:18
Speaker 2: quite some time. So I really think with the Yankees
29:21
Speaker 2: kind of being on a little bit of a down
29:23
Speaker 2: trajectory right now, kind of just in in waiting. I
29:26
Speaker 2: think if you go out there tonight, you get the
29:27
Speaker 2: first one, you have a good shot to get there
29:29
Speaker 2: the second game, and then you gotta face Garrett Cole,
29:31
Speaker 2: which you never know. With this offense right now, I
29:34
Speaker 2: wouldn't put anything by them, So I like that prediction.
29:36
Speaker 2: I think the two out of three sounds it sounds
29:38
Speaker 2: good right now.
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Speaker 4: A lot's going to be determined in game one, then
29:43
Speaker 4: captain obvious. Obviously you want to win game one of
29:46
Speaker 4: the series every single time. But this seems like a
29:49
Speaker 4: big spot for Shane bos if he can bounce back
29:52
Speaker 4: because his prior started he went eight innings tour and runs.
29:55
Speaker 4: If he can bounce back in rodme he has a
29:58
Speaker 4: pitch with the Yankees June twenty eighth, So could the
30:02
Speaker 4: O's be catching him in a good time.
30:03
Speaker 5: This offense isn't a really good groove. If they could give.
30:07
Speaker 4: Shamee Bo's run support again two straight starts, but this
30:10
Speaker 4: time Bob holds up his end of the bargain, then
30:14
Speaker 4: that puts you in an opportunity for success. Because you
30:18
Speaker 4: look at Chris Bassett's numbers against the Yankees. He's been really,
30:21
Speaker 4: really good throughout his career. Obviously, you miss Max Breed.
30:25
Speaker 4: It gives you a real chance to take at a
30:27
Speaker 4: minimum two a three.
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Speaker 1: If it comes down to the third and deciding game
30:32
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. It's bradish and coal under now, so
30:36
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