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One Piece, 847-849 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is Spoiling Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes eight forty seven, eight forty eight,
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  Speaker 1: and eight forty nine, A coincidental reunion Sanjy and the
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  Speaker 1: Love Struck, Evil Pudding, Save the Sunny, Fighting Bravely, Chopper
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  Speaker 1: and Brook, and Before the Dawn. Pedro, the captain of
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  Speaker 1: the Guardians. In these episodes, this Parisparo guy is a
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  Speaker 1: real bummer. I don't like his power, I don't like
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  Speaker 1: his attitude, I don't like his aesthetic. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: this man. And I resent that Pedro has to do
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  Speaker 1: what he does because I am sure he's still alive
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  Speaker 1: in the end, but uh, I just don't like asking
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  Speaker 1: this of him. Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much to
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  Speaker 1: Mina for commissioning this episode and forbearing with me when
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  Speaker 1: I had to reschedule it again. Apologies everybody. I know
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  Speaker 1: that this is probably just tedious for you all as well,
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  Speaker 1: So these episodes are you know. It's the sort of
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  Speaker 1: thing where there isn't a lot of forward movement on
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  Speaker 1: the plot, really, but we do get to see the
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  Speaker 1: motivations of a particular character a little bit more close up.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, guys, I don't think that I
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  Speaker 1: would care very much about Paedro if it weren't for
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he's obviously a hattie, right like being
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  Speaker 1: a tiger man. Aside or perhaps not, depending on your interests,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose he has got it, and so I just
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just going to care a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: He has the strong, silent thing going on, very capable,
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  Speaker 1: sort of questionable backstory, kind of a bad boy thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's all very much working for him, and I like
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  Speaker 1: getting to see his past. It's a again, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm interested despite myself. The thing about a motivation
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  Speaker 1: like this is that it feels a little bit vague
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  Speaker 1: sometimes in a way that's like generic feeling, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, I'm not really like able to
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  Speaker 1: pull a name out to give an example of like
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  Speaker 1: somebody else who also had this sort of thing. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of line for me to
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  Speaker 1: say that we have come across characters in one Piece
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  Speaker 1: who are driven by the idea that there is like
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  Speaker 1: a better world coming in that there's a particular person
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  Speaker 1: who's going to be at the forefront of that, and
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  Speaker 1: that these straw hats are those people. Right, I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure that we have seen this before, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: one could argue that's what's going on with Jimbay. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I just all all I'm wanting to like sort of
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  Speaker 1: preface this with is I recognize that Pedro's motivation isn't
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  Speaker 1: great to me, It's not super compelling, but I'm fine
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  Speaker 1: with it just because I like Pedro, and that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of mitigating that for me. So I just always like
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  Speaker 1: to sort of cop to whatever my personal bias is
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  Speaker 1: in covering something because it's there. And sometimes I'll dislike
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  Speaker 1: something that's perfectly good just because I'm a hater, you know,
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  Speaker 1: of whatever that particular character is, or maybe the plot
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  Speaker 1: line itself. I'm just like, oh no, and that'll happen also.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, I uh this, like, we don't get that
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  Speaker 1: much of Loofy in these episodes. We are focusing pretty
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  Speaker 1: much on everybody else. He gets a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: screen time. He's up against uh Krue. I just had
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  Speaker 1: his name and then I lost it and keep getting
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  Speaker 1: it and losing it. This guy who has a power
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  Speaker 1: that I thought I understood, and now it seems like
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  Speaker 1: there's another aspect to it that I wasn't aware of.
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  Speaker 1: So it's that's sort of interesting in that there's like
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  Speaker 1: a look Oda loves doing this, right, showing us a
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  Speaker 1: bit of somebody's power, and then being like psych It's not.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the only thing. But what I think is
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  Speaker 1: so interesting about it here is just that what is
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  Speaker 1: going on with this dude is really similar to what
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  Speaker 1: Lufy has happening inasmuch as he has like this ranged
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  Speaker 1: attack thing going on, and also he can make himself
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  Speaker 1: incorporeal so that when Lufy is like coming at him
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  Speaker 1: with his gatling, nothing happens, and eventually he just it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like he manages to like basically grasp Lufy's wrist
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  Speaker 1: and pull him. And in most of like out of
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  Speaker 1: these three episodes, that's really almost everything that's going on
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  Speaker 1: with Lufy right now is simply that he is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: facing somebody that he I don't know if I want
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  Speaker 1: to say underestimated exactly, but at least he didn't fully
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  Speaker 1: understand who it was he was up against and is
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  Speaker 1: starting to get a sense of I may have fucked
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  Speaker 1: up by the way I earn Well, I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that Lufy has literally ever thought I've I
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  Speaker 1: may have fucked up. Do you guys think that he
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  Speaker 1: has ever thought that? Not? I stop and consider it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, because like, even when he has actually fucked up,
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  Speaker 1: it's I feel like Lufy has the sort of attitude
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  Speaker 1: where it's like I learned something or got I met someone,
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  Speaker 1: or I you know, like I don't. I guess Lufy's
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  Speaker 1: just so in the moment and so very like convinced
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the time that everything works out in
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  Speaker 1: the end that I don't think that he really ever
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  Speaker 1: has felt he really fucked up. God, can you imagine
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  Speaker 1: how freeing that would be to be someone who genuinely
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  Speaker 1: is never conscious of a mistake in that sort of way,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of a nightmare for the people around you,
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  Speaker 1: as we have seen, but nevertheless, wow, really just kind
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  Speaker 1: of an ideal way to live in certain senses. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I am going to back up a little bit here,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to start at the beginning of A
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  Speaker 1: forty seven, where it's Brooke and Chopper like they're in
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  Speaker 1: their little submarine that looks like a shark coming at
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  Speaker 1: the sunny and they're trying to assess whether or not
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  Speaker 1: these straw hats are already there, and they see silhouettes
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  Speaker 1: on the deck of the ship and assume that's our friends,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, unsurprisingly, no, it's not. We all
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  Speaker 1: saw this one coming. So they come up and they're
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  Speaker 1: like surfacing, just yelling like hey, sorry to hold everybody up,
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  Speaker 1: but we're here finally. And then there's the slow reveal
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  Speaker 1: as everybody comes into focus that like, oh no, these
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  Speaker 1: are these are enemies as as enemy ish as it's
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  Speaker 1: possible to get. I feel like it's Brooke who says
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  Speaker 1: something like that, because Chopper says, those aren't our friends,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, about as opposite of that as
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  Speaker 1: it gets. Now. I'm not criticizing their approach here, just
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  Speaker 1: you know, want to make that clear, because there have
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  Speaker 1: been I don't want to say that there's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that like are not really as awesome
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  Speaker 1: or tough as they have seemed. The people that we
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  Speaker 1: have encountered a lot of the time so far in
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  Speaker 1: this arc have been pretty competent actually, all things considered.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the kinds of baddies that we've met before
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  Speaker 1: this is a respectable group, I would say, But I
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  Speaker 1: can understand between the two of them looking at this
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  Speaker 1: fucking dude on the deck of the ship and the
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  Speaker 1: henchman that he's got with him, I can understand very
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  Speaker 1: much why Brooke and Chopper are like, oh, yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: can take him, no problem, we got it. I want
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  Speaker 1: them to feel that way, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: like this is I endorse this approach, but they just
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  Speaker 1: really misjudged this one. And Parispero. I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: have a really strong reaction every time we meet a
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  Speaker 1: bad guy who has one of these logia type abilities,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you are able to basically engulf a person.
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  Speaker 1: It just really gives me the ick. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: just a real specific type of nope for me. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that it necessarily he counts as that
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't turn into candy himself, but he is
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  Speaker 1: able to. Oh oh, oh, that's so weird. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Fim, I just saw you in the chat. General
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  Speaker 1: thought is he's meant to essentially be a logia. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about Kategori. In the very first manga chapter,
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  Speaker 1: it was said he had a logia but in every
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  Speaker 1: other version it's been retconned into being a special pair
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  Speaker 1: PARIMETHEA general thought is he's meant to essentially be alogia,
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  Speaker 1: but since Mochi isn't an elemental power like all the rest,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't fit, so got changed. Interesting Perispero isn't a
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  Speaker 1: logia for the reason you noted. Okay, yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: really sure what to call it. When somebody can make
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of a substance that's like malleable in this way,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because you've got people who can make there's
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  Speaker 1: the ability to make things appear of a certain type
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  Speaker 1: we have run into before, but some of those are
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  Speaker 1: more flexible than others and more like easy to manipulate
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  Speaker 1: than others. And any time that it is something that
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  Speaker 1: you can like wrap somebody up in engulf them in it,
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  Speaker 1: of course is deeply uncomfortable. But what we have in
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  Speaker 1: this is not just the people are getting wrapped up
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  Speaker 1: in it. I wish like, lookie, if only that were
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  Speaker 1: all it were. But guys, this dude describes as he's like,
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  Speaker 1: as we're all fighting, he manages to grab one of
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  Speaker 1: Chopper's hoofs. Chopper transforms into his little fighty barrel chested
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  Speaker 1: guy and he gets his footstuck, and for a second
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  Speaker 1: it's just like, wait, what the fuck? And I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: that's sort of it. He can maybe be encased in
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  Speaker 1: candy and trapped and kept from participating in the fight. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: but that like inside there, maybe the one thing that
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  Speaker 1: would be really you know, that he would be at
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  Speaker 1: risk of is like perhaps suffocation right in the way
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  Speaker 1: that any substance that blocks you from getting air would do.
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  Speaker 1: This would not be unique to this candy that he
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  Speaker 1: can produce. It would simply be the same sort of
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  Speaker 1: byproduct of any substance. Wouldn't matter, no, because it can't
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  Speaker 1: be simple, it can't be easy, it can't be non creepy.
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  Speaker 1: This candy evidently like eats you alive, essentially, like what
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  Speaker 1: I'm imagining is an acid where it penetrates your actual
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  Speaker 1: flesh and slowly and painfully by the way, begins to
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  Speaker 1: eat away at you until you turn into your whole
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  Speaker 1: body actual candy. And like I already didn't like this,
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  Speaker 1: you add that I hate it. I fucking hate watching
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  Speaker 1: my little man Chopper get his mouth like filled with
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  Speaker 1: candy against his will. I sort of hoped that we
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  Speaker 1: were gonna have a U I know I've mentioned this before,
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  Speaker 1: but I uh, Homer Simpson with the Donuts in Hell
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  Speaker 1: scenario where he's pouring candy into Chopper's mouth, and Chopper
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  Speaker 1: is just such a sweet freak that he eats and
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  Speaker 1: eats and doesn't actually get tired of it or anything,
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  Speaker 1: which would have been kind of fun, but it would
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  Speaker 1: have been too easy and now and I know that,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't really want that. I just don't like
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  Speaker 1: seeing my boy get hurt. Okay, just fucking let me
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  Speaker 1: have this. So all of that is already too much.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. But then we get this weird
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  Speaker 1: vibe off Perosparrow guys, And I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: just me reading into this a little bit too much,
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  Speaker 1: or if it's just like the Internet has rotted my
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  Speaker 1: brain and so I think things that probably are not,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's just sort of more revealing of myself
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  Speaker 1: than of the subject itself. But like a glint in
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  Speaker 1: his eye that happens as Parisparro is describing what is
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  Speaker 1: just about to occur to both Chopper and Brook, that
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  Speaker 1: feels a little bit like sexual And I don't really
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  Speaker 1: mean this, but what I do mean is more he's
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  Speaker 1: getting off on this somehow. It may not be like
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  Speaker 1: sexual explicitly, but Parisparrow loves this, really loves it. And
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  Speaker 1: he says something about how excited he is that he
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  Speaker 1: can't wait because soon they'll be nothing but candy corpses.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't tell if he eats his victims or not,
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  Speaker 1: but there was a distinct tone to me that he does,
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  Speaker 1: and I, I don't know. I think that I'm probably
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  Speaker 1: putting that on him and it's not really there, but
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  Speaker 1: I feel that there is a way he's animated as
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  Speaker 1: he says that, and a way the voice actor chose
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  Speaker 1: to deliver the line that is underscoring it in a
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  Speaker 1: way where it's very understandable why I'm drawing the conclusions
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  Speaker 1: that I'm drawing. And I'm sure I'm not the only
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  Speaker 1: one who maybe wondered about this. So Saraphim says, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's eating them so much as just coding
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  Speaker 1: every part of no. No, Seraphim, He says, it penetrates them.
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  Speaker 1: That's the that's the word that he uses. And again,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is like a the what do you call it?
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  Speaker 1: Translation thing? But like he explicitly is explaining it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: just cover you, it gets inside you, into your body,
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  Speaker 1: and that you become candy, and that it's super painful,
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  Speaker 1: like that's that's what he's saying, as Chopper is getting
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  Speaker 1: it poured down his throat and Brooke is stuck yelling
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  Speaker 1: for him to stop, and just watching as poor Chopper
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  Speaker 1: has his mouth filled and this like unable to help
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  Speaker 1: or do anything. What I was sort of hoping was
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  Speaker 1: that maybe that effect of the candy is not going
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  Speaker 1: to work on Brook the same way because he isn't
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  Speaker 1: made of flesh and blood. But it seems like it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter that. You know, being alive is enough whether
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  Speaker 1: or not, no matter what you're made out of. So
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so sorry. Saraphim says, Nope, not
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  Speaker 1: just you. He's a twisted creep that might be a
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  Speaker 1: dub thing, but the sub he flat out says, then
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  Speaker 1: I will lick you. I don't think that he says that,
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  Speaker 1: but I may have missed it in the throes of
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  Speaker 1: discomfort of this whole thing to begin with. I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to find the spot here because it's like a little
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  Speaker 1: bit further in than I realized and it just like
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  Speaker 1: I said, guys, I already was really horrified at his
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  Speaker 1: ability because it's so adaptable, it's so flexible, and then
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  Speaker 1: the fact that it can it can do this and
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  Speaker 1: it causes you such pain as it's happening. It's just
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  Speaker 1: really really awful. I really Parisparro later on. Honestly, what
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  Speaker 1: he's sort of reminding me of due to this is
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  Speaker 1: like Magneto, where he has this ability that is like
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  Speaker 1: a lot more versatile than you really realized initially, and
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  Speaker 1: now it's starting to become clearly like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: a problem. But when he decides that he's going to
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  Speaker 1: like get off the deck of the Sunny and he's
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  Speaker 1: able to make a disc of candy on the surface
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  Speaker 1: of the water that he just steps down onto. There
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  Speaker 1: is a whole thing with Magneto in one of the
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  Speaker 1: movies where he is able to make like disks of
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  Speaker 1: metal that he is in a like at the top
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  Speaker 1: of a turret that is supposed to be inescapable, and
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  Speaker 1: he makes these discs for himself to step on that
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  Speaker 1: move and he just you know, and it's a really
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  Speaker 1: similar sort of esthetic and the moments those are I
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  Speaker 1: always think in one piece. Those are the scariest moments
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  Speaker 1: where somebody has an ability that has an application that
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  Speaker 1: maybe did not occur to you initially, and then you
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  Speaker 1: start to like see all of the potential and realize,
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  Speaker 1: oh god, this is something that could be a really
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  Speaker 1: big problem. And it's a like, I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you combat this. What Pedro winds up doing later is
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  Speaker 1: blowing himself up with Parrosparo nearby, And you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, guys, maybe this is just because I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of like faith that things hurt people
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  Speaker 1: in this universe. But I just don't think that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: do the job. I would like for it to do
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  Speaker 1: the job, obviously, but Parrosparro, I'm not really sure what
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  Speaker 1: hurts him and what doesn't. I don't have a good
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  Speaker 1: idea of that, and I don't it seems like the
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  Speaker 1: explosion had little enough warning. I'm not sure exactly how
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  Speaker 1: strong his candy is either, Like can he make a
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  Speaker 1: coating around himself to protect himself like a shield, and
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  Speaker 1: would it do enough to actually keep him from being hurt?
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  Speaker 1: Questions that you know, we'll get answered eventually, But so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this this uh jumping away from this for a little while,
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  Speaker 1: because like essentially both Chopper and Brooke get gripped up
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  Speaker 1: by this guy, and by the time Nami and Jimbay
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  Speaker 1: make it to the Sonny, they're completely encased and there
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  Speaker 1: is nothing to be done. She like, when I say
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing to be done, there's obviously like they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get out of this, but at the moment, it really
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  Speaker 1: is sort of looking like we don't know what to
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  Speaker 1: do for you, and we need to get on the
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  Speaker 1: road and figure out how to fix this once we're
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  Speaker 1: safely out of the harbor, so to speak. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like, again, how hard is the candy? How
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  Speaker 1: strong is it? Is it the sort of thing where
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  Speaker 1: you just get like a hammer and chisel and just
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  Speaker 1: sort of break the coating and it comes off and
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  Speaker 1: that's it, and you're good. I'm assuming that that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the way it works, even though it being described
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  Speaker 1: as actually getting inside you, it probably shouldn't, strictly speaking,
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  Speaker 1: be how it works. But I just can't really get
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  Speaker 1: mad about it because I just don't want my friends
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  Speaker 1: to suffer, So it would be a really weird thing. Though,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, in one piece, this is obviously like
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  Speaker 1: not a thing, but in some properties, a person will
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  Speaker 1: you know, they will get some sort of bizarre injury
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  Speaker 1: that's really specific and there is an actually a great
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  Speaker 1: way to heal them or combat that, and so it
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  Speaker 1: winds up becoming an injury that they have to cope
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  Speaker 1: with constantly until maybe eventually they get healed, but sometimes not.
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  Speaker 1: And like, honestly, I can find that kind of interesting
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  Speaker 1: when you decide that you're actually going to like factor
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  Speaker 1: in almost a disability into a story, it can be
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  Speaker 1: done in such a way that's genuinely like, it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: to watch the problem solving of a character who is
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  Speaker 1: faced with that kind of obstacle. So I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: against it if we were if this were a different
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  Speaker 1: property and these guys actually maintained some sort of a
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  Speaker 1: serious injury due to this and we had to like
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  Speaker 1: watch them figure out their body has partially turned a candy.
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  Speaker 1: Now what are we gonna do? Honestly, i'd watch that,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be about it, but I just I definitely don't
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: think that's what we're going to be dealing with here.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So there's a few I kind of like, I'm not
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: trying to be disrespectful of Brooke or Chopper here because
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I definitely basically grazed right over their fight and the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: fact that they do manage to take some guys out initially,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: which makes them feel like pretty hot stuff. Again, I'm
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: not trying to like rain on their parade at all.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: It's simply that in the end they get got. So
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I kind of jump to that because Paris Barrow is,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you know, horrifying. So let's go over to the rest
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of the straw Hats who are still like on that
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: trail through the seducing woods, and we have got the
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: weirdest thing going on. So first we have to cope
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: with I keep I need to say, Lola, guys, what
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: is her name? Is it Lila? I can't remember? Saraphim says,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: how does Brooke go on if the candy takes out
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: his achilles tendons? Oh my god, Chiffon, thank you. She
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: is talking to Beije about that, like she wants to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: keep her word regarding I like helping the straw Hats
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and helping Pudding, and Beje initially is like, I don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: want you to go, babe. That's basically what it comes
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: down to, just like I love you. We have a baby,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Please don't go, and she's like, you know, look, yes,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: but you're a man of honor, which debatable. You know
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that you've got to like keep your word right, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I gotta do this so I'll see you when I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: see you if I don't make it out, et cetera,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: et cetera, And uh, I for one am kind of
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: like I feel like relieved is too strong a word,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: but beje, I feel like I'm sort of bored of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: him at this point, so transitioning to something that's got
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with him, I'm pretty much into right now,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and he parts ways with them, so it's just Chiffon
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and Putting on the back of the Flying Carpet guy
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and we get the weirdest thing with putting you all
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: this was graz stuff. I wasn't expecting it, and I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: feel like there was an episode where I even said
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure like Pudding knows what she wants, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it turns out that was like much more literally correct
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: than I was expecting it to be. What we've got
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: in these three episodes is Putting fighting her evil nature,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and I don't even know that it's like an evil
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: nature that's innate in her that we're supposed to think.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I mean, I think it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: just meant to be that she has fed so much
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: into a monstrous version of herself that turning that off
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: now is really hard actually, and that she is like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: just conditioned, you know. It's it's almost like we're seeing
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the sort of thing that we all deal with a lot,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: but on steroids where we've got our patterns. You know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: we all have the thing that we have done for
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: so long as a defense mechanism, and now it's outlived
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: its usefulness to us. It no longer serves us, and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: yet now it's a habit and we don't know how
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to turn it off, and it is just the worst. Man,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It's the fucking worst. It's like talking about somebody who
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: needs like therapy, you know what I'm saying. I love
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the fact that it's so obvious that everybody around her
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: is just like, girl, what the fuck though, like, really,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: what is going on with you? And she's sort of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: stopping and being like, I don't know, I don't know
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on with me? Even I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: just had a lot of sympathy for her here, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it's really what I kept getting distracted by imagining how
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: much fun the voice actress probably was having when she
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: got to perform this, because she's getting to be the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: sweet girl and then transitioning immediately into not just a villain,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but like a truly uny hinged drama queen type of villain,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like the funnest type, you know. And so you get
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: these wild swings back and forth, which I have to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: assume if you're a voice actor, you kind of live
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: for this shit, Like this is exactly what you enjoy,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I would think, And it's really really fun to watch.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: It's genuinely so hilarious, you guys. And it's like there
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: could not be a better pairing for her than Sonjy
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: because SONI, in his weird way, has the same exact
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: thing going on. He wants to be like a normal dude,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: but he can't help. But like the horn dog thing
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is so built in and it's really hard to turn off,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and he will fight against it sometimes, but it's just
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: it's just right there all the time. And so I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: kept watching the two of them and being like, honestly
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: ideal couple. They both have such a bizarre relationship with
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: themselves that I feel like they would have a lot
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of compassion for one another. There's almost a sense when
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: it comes to Soanjy that he's just like straight delusional.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So when she's being bonkers, crazy evil, it's almost like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really even register for him because bro is
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: so completely disconnected from reality that it doesn't matter. She
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: could say fucking anything, and because she's cute, that's fine, Okay,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: say whatever then, you know, and I really really ship
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the two of them at this point. I just want
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to be clear. This is the strongest I've felt about
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: any really relationships in this show, and the only time
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that I have really genuinely been like, Sonji needs to
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: be with this person. Like most of the time with Sonji,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, you know, if he gets to
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: have a fun time for a little bit, this is fine.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But this is genuinely a pairing that I want to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: see continue, and I will be really disappointed if it doesn't,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: if we don't get to have that. And I especially
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: love it in light of the fact that like a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: big part of where her insecurity is coming from is
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: her eye and thinking that she's ugly and nobody ever,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you know, and that so much of Sanji being bananas
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: is him complimenting her appearance and talking about her beautiful
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: eyes and that her face hasn't been damaged by a
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: big mom. Thank God for that. That kind of thing.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love this, and it's it's such a fun
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: thing to watch her starting to like completely lose it
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and go down villain road and then for him to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: be like, oh my darling, you're so beautiful, and it's
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: like she's short circuits when he gives her a compliment.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: The whole track that her brain was on just the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: train jumps right off and doesn't know where to go. Now.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: It's a perfect combo. It couldn't be more ideal for
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: each other. I'm into it. I really mean it, Guys.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I ship them, and I'm gonna be sad if this
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't work out, and I suspect it won't because the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: only way that this could really work is for her
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to become one of the straw hats. And I just
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: don't really see that that's the direction we're going. I mean,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: we might be, I might be wrong about that, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't really think it looks like that's what
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: we're doing. So we'll see, but I'm sort of mentally
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: just preparing myself for dis appointment there because I'm I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: have my suspicions and I understand storytelling wise, the guy
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: who's a huge creep and PERV can't be tied down
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: probably for the story, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I see how that might be sort of limiting to
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: him as a character, but I would argue that actually,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: in reality, it might free him up to be more
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: interesting in other ways, like him being a creepy PERV
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: has been basically characteristic Number two. Right, Soanji number one
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: loves to cook, Number two loves women. I think maybe
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: we could have him still love women, but be a
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: little bit less unhinged about it now that he's married
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and it's directed at one person, and potentially we could
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: have another, like something else that he's good at come out.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: While this particular characteristic gets a little subdued. I can't
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: help but think about the episode of Seinfeld where George
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: stops having sex and suddenly becomes smart, and it's like,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: somehow the fact that he like, somehow sex manages to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: leach away his intelligence and everybody is just like, who
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: are you? Because now he's doing like science and shit. Anyway,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I feel it's almost the opposite, where if Sanji is
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: actually in a loving mutual relationship, that he might be
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: bearable as a real person otherwise and we could do
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: something else him. And I'm I just I understand if
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: that is not something Oda is interested in, because he
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: really just wants to keep hammering away at the things
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that we know about these characters and their basic personalities.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: But I kind of hope that's not all it is.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I kind of want to have a bit of room
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: for growth in this and to do something else, because
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I think that these characters are good enough that they
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: deserve that, you know what I'm saying. I think it's
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: almost maybe underestimating your audience a little bit. If you
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: feel like, well, you know, Sougy's a PERV, then that's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: just who he is. Everybody knows and expects that, and
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that's what we're doing with him because it's how he's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: always been. Maybe it doesn't have to be because your
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: audience is old enough to fucking adjust and adapt, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you've already got plenty of other pervs in the story,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Brooke isn't as bad as Sanjy,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: but he certainly could play that role. Adequately, adequately enough
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: for me, who feels that this sort of creepiness is
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: not necessary at all. I think Brooke is perfectly fine
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: because mostly the creepiness doesn't show until he asks to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: see somebody's panties, and that's enough. That's more than I
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: want anyway. So oh yeah, Sarahim says, Plus she is
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a chef, so they are perfect. I agree, she really
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: does deserve to if someone genuinely tell her she's beautiful. Agree,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate very much that her I don't know
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: if it's necessarily that she's with Cheffon. That is sort
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: of like keeping her grounded here, but probably if Cheffon
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: weren't with her, what's going on with Putting would be
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a lot more confusing. So I really like the fact
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that Chafon is sort of like bringing her back down
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to earth before Sonjy you know, gets involved, and is
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the one who starts doing that, and it's just like, girl,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Why would you say that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: You just said that you wanted to help them, Because
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: she keeps jumping into like, yeah, come with me, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: it starts off as like I can help you, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: then it turns into I can help you escape while
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Big Mom kills all of your friends and lights your
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: ship on fire and we can watch it sink into
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the sea together. It's so weird because she transitions from
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: being like you know, enormy into not only a villain,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: but a villain who is somehow assuming that Soanji is
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: on her side. In a lot of this, it starts
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: off with I you are so pathetic, I hate you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: so much that she's yelling at Sanji, and then slowly,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: as these episodes go by, it begins to adjust so
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that Sanji is more and more she's recognizing that he's
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: on her side, but she still isn't really looping everyone
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: else in as being on her side. So instead it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: me and you versus them for you for a little bit.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: And uh, I wouldn't mind if this is just a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: thing for putting forever, If it's just her constantly battling
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: this impulse that she has to be evil all the time.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I think this would be genuinely fucking funny. And I
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: don't know, depending on how you handled it, I don't
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: think I get tired of it. You could do it
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: in a way that could stay pretty interesting and pretty funny.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: So I know I've spent too much time on this
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: with them, but I just really enjoy it, and I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: think it's surprising the direction that some things have gone,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and putting overall has just been such a pleasant addition
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: to the women of this series that are bigger roles,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So all right, I'm kind of,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know, jumping around over here. There's there's the whole
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: thing with Zeus the Cloud who ate the other clouds?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Zeus the Cannibal Cloud sounds like a band. We have
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Prometheus just being like, yo, dude, what the fuck? Because
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: in the last episodes he attacks them and Prometheus is
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: just like, why would you do that? Though? And He's like, well,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of say in the matter.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, uh, the assumption that he
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: has the same weird drive from hunger that Big Mom has,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of into that idea at this point. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: think that's canon. I'm assuming when he says that, and like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: initially my response was like, yeah, you did, But now
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to think about Big Mom and the way
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: she is, and I'm like, maybe not actually, per perhaps
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: it is not as cut and dried as it looked
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and big Oh, I am really though, when it comes
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: to Big Mom, I must say, I'm really starting to
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: feel for this actress, the voice actress who has to
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: do her, because it has been what at this point,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: nine episodes in a row of her just yelling where
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: is my wedding cake? That has got to be really
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: fucking boring. The only thing that I can think that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: might mitigate this is they reuse a lot of her
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: dialogue because it's so repetitive and she doesn't have to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: actually repeat this over and over again. But I don't
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: know that that's true. It's very possible that wasn't something
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: they were able to do for some reason. And you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know how a lot of this works. I'm
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: thinking probably they could though, because like Big Mom, even
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: in the original language, is going to be repeating herself
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: a lot, so it's going to be the same like
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: mouth flaps, and so I feel like that's likely. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: hope so for her sake, because I feel like I
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: would get so sick of this anyway. She is gearing
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: up for like another one of these big attacks. Meanwhile,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like the view that Pudding has from above is like
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: she's realizing at one point that the straw hats are
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: heading in the wrong direction and that they need to
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: be led another way, but the seducing woods is keeping
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: them from adjusting from changing direction, and so Putting does
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: something really interesting and it's only temporary. So I think, like,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: because my initial reaction when she does this is like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: is that kind of cruel? Actually? And then when she
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: says later it's not gonna last for very long, I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, maybe it's fine then, But she returns
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the memories of a bunch of the trees. I think
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it's just trees. There's like, you know, all kinds of
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: plants that are involved with keeping them in the seducing woods.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But I think the memories that she returns are just
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: trees memories. But she returns these memories and makes them
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: stop in their tracks and forget what they were ordered
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to do and the way that they are meant to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: confuse the way for the straw hats, and you get
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: to see a little flash of like who each of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: these trees were, and it's sort of weird because it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: like not exactly that they I'm trying to think how
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to say this, because they come back to themselves but
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: not in a way where they like sort of look
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: around and go, what where am I? Oh my god,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I'm a tree. Like there's there's like almost a hint,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: But at first it's all of them remembering a moment
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: before they were turned into a tree and experiencing that
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: memory as if it's happening right now. So this one woman,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you see that the memory that just got projected into
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: her head was her going grocery shopping, and then she
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: says out loud, Oh yeah, I've really got to get
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: some groceries. And so it's not that she's like just
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: reminded who she really is and comes out of her
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: fugue state. It's almost like she just gets put into
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a different fugue state for a second. And so it's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: this woman, it's like there's an old man as well.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: There's just a bunch of people putting is able and like,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I really I gotta say that I'm not totally clear
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: on how Pudding's power works here, because she basically stretches
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: her arms out and it's like tendrils come out of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: her hands that go into the trees, and those tendrils
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: carry memories. But I was sort of under the impression
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: that the memories that she carries around are ones that
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: she took from people. And I don't know if it's
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: supposed to be that, Like, if somebody is turned into
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a tree in the Seducing Woods or put into like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: does she take their memories before this happens to them.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: The way that I thought I understood things was the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Seducing Woods, the trees and stuff all existed as regular trees.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Big Mom accepts a tribute of part of somebody's lifespan
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and that gets put into an already existing tree and
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: animates it. And so it's not that necessarily someone died
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: to make that tree now its own being that those
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: potentially the person that is in that tree that piece
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: of their life force, they are also still alive somewhere else,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and that this is just a piece of their life
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: force out here walking around as a tree. That was
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the way that I was like thinking that this worked.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that I'm right about it. Oh,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Seraphim says, yes, that is how it worked. Okay. So
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know how uh, how it is that putting
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: gets access to memories, how she is able to like
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: it feels like she actually puts the memory in their mind.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: But is it that she is putting random memories in
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: their minds? Is it maybe, because I my assumption had
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: been watching this, that she's putting the memory that corresponds
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: with the piece of soul and that they are remembering
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: something from their own history. But maybe not. Maybe she's
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: planting whatever memories she's got in her little database and
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it's not actually matched up at all. Possibly, sarahim says,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: how Putting did her thing less clear. Could be she
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: just had the ability to awaken dormant memories, or she's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: just giving them some random memory she stored. Okay, and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the ability to awaken dormant memories is interesting. It really
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: felt like the way it was animated that it's supposed
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: to be she's placing the memory, but you know, may
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: not be. I just wanted to make sure that I
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: didn't miss something about how all that works. What I
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: keep thinking about, you guys, is what if Putting used
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: her ability on Big Mom? And I'm not even sure
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that when I say it like
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a part of me. What I mean is, could she
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: make Big Mom like a decent person by manipulating her memories?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Or maybe I don't even know how that would work.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I just keep thinking about the fact that Big Mom
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: ate her friends and doesn't seem aware of that, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: how much I want her to find out that's what
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: she did, And based on the way that things have
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: sort of unfolded, it seems that there is no other
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: witness to that, and I just don't think there's a
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: way for her to find out what really happened there
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: through something going on with memory. So Putting feels like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: the missing piece there to make that happen. But I
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: don't really get how that would even work, and I
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: think that disconnect there is not knowing exactly everything that
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Putting is capable of with her power, because that's the
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: way that the devil fruits work a lot in this universe,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: is like you get one overt ability that then has
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of little tangential things that you can do
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: that are related to that big thing. So memory manipulation
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: is a general term, and there could be a lot
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of detail surrounding that. That's like opens up a much
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: wider world on things that Pudding can do. So yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I just like I can't I don't know even if
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: she found out that she ate them, would it be
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: like helpful. You know. The thing about this big mom
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: is that the way that she's portrayed when she's younger
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: is that she mostly means well but is for some
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: reason unable to see when people are suffering, and so
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: she'll do things that hurts them or do things that
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: makes them afraid and not realize how afraid they are
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: or how much pain they're in. But that really she's
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: kind of Lenny from of Mice and Men, where it's
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: like she just wanted to pet the bunny and she
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: didn't mean to accidentally like kill this person, you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and then gradually as time goes on and she gets
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: corrupted by this guy that she joins up with her
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: like power hungry self. Oh my god, I never made
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that connection, you guys power hungry obviously. Oh my god,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I feel real dumb. Anyway, I don't know if being
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: told that she did that would make her stop and
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: like rethink her life, or you know, some people their
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: face was something awful that they did that's like too
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: big and they can't really face it and they get
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: very defensive and lash out, which could certainly also be
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: a thing. Oh, Demian is here. Hi Demian Saraphim says,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: we saw two witnesses that the chef guy who decided
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: to bring Linln with him and use her, and one
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: giant who saw and told the rest. Oh, I didn't
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: know that the giant told them. I didn't know that
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: he saw what she did. I knew that he saw
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: that everybody was gone, but I didn't realize that he
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: like actually witnessed what she did. Okay, and the chef
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: guy as well, I knew that like both of them.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think I realized actually watch what happened. Happened.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: So Vimian says, basically how it's been until now is
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: that armament hockey can protect you from pretty much anything
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: devil fruit related, but only if you specifically block it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: But Big Mom is a hockey monster and is basically
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: an iron balloon at all times. Does that mean she
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: would just block it like she does everything, or would
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: specialize devil fruit powers just go right through? Would Big
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Mom forget someone turned into a toy by sugar? It
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: was also what I was asking myself when I read this.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: It stated as a reason why no giant will deal
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: with Big Mom. Okay, I didn't remember that that was it.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I knew that they wouldn't deal with her, but I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: thought that was more like the rampage over the cakes
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: that got her sent away, and that they were basically like,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: we never want to deal with her again. But I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: think I'm just getting the order of events confused. Yeah, So, anyway,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: all this to say, what's going on with Big Mom, Like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the only things that I can imagine helping are a
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: drugs or be lots and lots of therapy, and therapy
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: involves dealing with memory. And if we're going to shortcut that,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: what pudding can do feels ideal, you know, But the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: truth is, like, it does not seem as if there's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a way to kill her that anybody is really going
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: to be able to manage. The only other option that
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I could see is poisoning her, and I'm not even
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: really that confident on that one. Don't know, Like I'm
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: just unclear whether she's really vulnerable to something in that
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: way or not, because it's what I would expect is
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: that if you are able, if you are like physically
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: and vulnerable as if you are made of iron all over,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: that you have to have some weak spot and so
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: being poisoned would make sense as the weak spot. But
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: even if that were true, I don't really know that.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I see putting and Chiffon willingly poisoning Big Mom. Maybe
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: she's been awful to both of them. So personally I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: think that they should because it seems as if Big
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Mom would be very willing to kill Chiffon at least,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you know, so, do I think that they should have
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: hang ups about it? No? Personally, but I'm not really
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: sure that something that they would be willing to do,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: even though I think it would probably like free a
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: lot of people. The other thing is, she's got bits
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of her own life force like out and about, and
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: is it possible that you kill her and then that
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: bit of life force just flies out from somewhere and
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: reanimates her body and she's like still alive. Actually, you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: like pulling back up battery power at us somewhere. Why
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't that work? I feel like that would probably. That's
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: actually terrifying. That never occurred to me until just now,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and now I'm suddenly like, oh no, but yeah, I am.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I am really really curious, like how we're going to
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: deal with her in the end, because and when I
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: say the end, I mean this arc because I expect
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: her to be alive for a while. I don't think
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: that this arc ends with Big Mom dead. I just
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: don't see it maybe, but I don't know. I'm also
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: on I don't have a good idea of how long
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: this arc is. I feel like I looked at it
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a while ago, and I don't remember anything about like
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: how many episodes or anything like that. So in that respect,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I have really no frame of reference to how far
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: we are from the end of this arc and whether
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: or not I should be expecting things to start to
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: take a turn real soon or not. But yeah, so anyway, guys,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getting like wildly off I guess it's
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: not off topic, but I'm just really like not talking
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: too much about like the plot specifically here. But I
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: think that's okay, because like it's a lot of fighty
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: fighty fighty, you know. Really, the main thing is, by
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the end of these three episodes, Jimbe and Nami reached
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the sunny. They don't really have anything they can do
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to help Chopper and Brook right now. Excuse me, she
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: tells Jimby. I think that the Kuda burst is the
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: way to go, because we can put a bunch of
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: distance between us and these guys right away, which I
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: will say, I love Jimbei's response, which is like, if
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: you say that's the way to do it, I'm not
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: gonna argue, let's do it, like he trusts her immediately
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: is just like, you know more than me, and I
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: appreciate that very much. And so Nami goes below decks
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: and she starts to load these barrels of cola that
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: are the fuel for the coup to burst, and they're
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: very large. Apparently it's supposed to be that Carrot's much
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: stronger than her, which I don't know that I knew that,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: but it's interesting. And so Carrot comes down and sees
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Nami struggling with this one barrel, and it's just like,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: let me do this, you go do the other thing.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: So they're like loading up and getting ready to leave,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and this is when Pedro is like watching Pero Sparrow
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and is like, something's up. This guy is going to
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: be a problem. And then we start to really lean
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: into Pedro's story, getting to see the fact that like
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: he actually met gold Roger admired him a great deal,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: that he was told there was going to be a
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: point where like the world suddenly changed, that everybody gets
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: their moment to shine, which is evidently what he is
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: kind of thinking this moment is for him, that he
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: gets to shine by like blowing himself up. I guess
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: it's unnecessary for me to get this sort of like
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: flashback stuff of Pedro. I don't need it. It's fine,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: but like you know what I mean, it doesn't really
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: add anything in my opinion. It's just I think meant
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: to give us some frame of reference for why he's
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: willing to put it all on the line and risk
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: it all, and so Parispero at this point is this
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: is when he gets off the ship and he makes
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: the like water around the sunny, he creates this shell
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: of candy that locks the entire ship in place, which sucks. Really,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: that really fucking sucks. And so Pedro is like, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: am going to do what needs doing to make sure
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: that they all get out of here, because I think
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: the straw hats are the ones that are going to
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: change the world. And he kind of like says this
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: goodbye to Carrot, who senses that something about the way
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: he's talking feels very like worrying. But it's not until
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: he sets off this dynamite that you see her being like,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: oh shit, you know, and Saraphim says, also sets up
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: the larger question of what did the Roger pirates learn how?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: What does this mean? You know? I'll be real with you,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Sarah M. It doesn't set those questions up like I
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: think it's supposed to. But it's not specific enough for
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: me to really believe that they knew anything. It just
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: feels like the kind of things that people say when
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: they're trying to reassure you that the world is going
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: to be better for you than it was for us,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: which I believe that what you're saying is supposed to
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: be it that it's like they know something somehow, you know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: But it's just vague enough as to kind of feel like, well,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: you know, kid, you and the youths are going to
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: make this world a better place and things will be
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: different someday. It feels like vague enough that it's sort
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: of generic, which is what the word that I used,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: or like at the beginning of the episode regarding his motivations.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: It's that kind of feel for me. And again, I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: don't know if maybe there's an issue here with like
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: translation and there's something that they said where it feels
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: a lot more specific then the way that I heard it,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: which is possible, But as of right now, I'm just
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: sort of like seeing him as Jimbay part two of
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Just you know, I admire these guys. They seem to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: be out here doing good and I believe in them,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and I want to be part of this, and if
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: that means my death and so be it, I'm willing
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: to do that, you know. So yeah, I mean that's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: really kind of everything for these three episodes. I feel
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: like I touched on it all. And there's like a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: little bit of the henchman talking at one point, you know,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: because Parisparro is like calling montdor and he in turn
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: calls the other check I can't remember her name, and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: is like, you guys have to make sure the fucking
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: straw hats don't get out get out of the bay.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: And I do enjoy that. Somebody else who's listening is
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: just like they're fucking still alive. Really, like everybody just
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: expects for them to be like taking care of very quickly,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and it's a victory in itself that they are still
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: even here to be a pain in their ass. So
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: good on you, guys. I guess all right, I'm going
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: to wrap this up, but thank you guys again so
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: much for listening, and thank you to Seraphim and Demian
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: for hanging out with me. Thank you to Mina for
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: commissioning this episode. Appreciate you a lot, and for bearing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: with me again on my reschedule. Thank you all, and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: until next time to the LU motherfuckers. That was an
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: unspoiled network podcast.