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Hutton & Withrow: LSU vs. the SEC, Aaron Rodgers Unloads on ESPN & NFL Goes Global | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: Yes, we are out of the gates on Sporting State
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  Speaker 1: and ready to go with Hutton Withrow.
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  Speaker 2: He's Chad Withrow. I'm Jonathan Hutton.
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  Speaker 1: Glad you're with us this morning as we get you
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  Speaker 1: to the football weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Chad, good morning to you. And it's great to be
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  Speaker 2: with you on this morning. Great to have the lovely
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  Speaker 2: sounds of Derek Dooley intro us on the show and
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  Speaker 2: completely eviscerate us to open. here on a Friday. I
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  Speaker 2: love to be humbled early in the morning. Nowadays, just
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  Speaker 2: waking up at 5.30 a.m. is a humbling experience every morning.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to open with a bit of humility on
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  Speaker 2: this show, Hutton, and that's what we do every day
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  Speaker 2: when Derek Dooley talks down to us. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: at Sport and State. And, Jet, it is becoming difficult
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  Speaker 1: are presented by Hard Rock Bet. Chad, we've got plenty
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  Speaker 1: to get to. We've got Niners and Rams reaction. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a weekend preview for the top college football games
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  Speaker 1: of the weekend from you. But we have to start
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  Speaker 1: with the anniversary of 9-11, the 25th anniversary of September 11, 2001.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone remembers where they were that day. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the The constant, the memorials, the documentaries, the different things
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  Speaker 1: that I will stream, really over the last weekend, four
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  Speaker 1: or five days, that bring back the emotions of that moment,
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  Speaker 1: of that week, of that year, of the last 25 years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, may we never forget. Yeah, it's one of those
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  Speaker 2: that it stirs a feeling when you think about 9-11.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy to think 25 years ago this has happened.
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  Speaker 2: I can still vividly remember the five-year anniversary, the 10-year anniversary,
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  Speaker 2: and all the different memorials on the networks and everyone
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  Speaker 2: doing a look back on 9-11 and what it meant,
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  Speaker 2: not just for the United States, but for the world.
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  Speaker 2: And I think about that time, Hutton, and I look
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  Speaker 2: at it from both a national perspective and from a
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  Speaker 2: sports perspective. And I could see what it looks like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I can see what Derek Jeter in a
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  Speaker 2: Yankees uniform in 2001 looked like. I could see what
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  Speaker 2: it looked like with the Patriots and the player who
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  Speaker 2: ran through the tunnel with the American flag high overhead,
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  Speaker 2: whose brother was involved, was a firefighter or a police
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  Speaker 2: officer in 9-11. All those different things that you remember,
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  Speaker 2: like what it looked like, what a lack of high
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  Speaker 2: def looked like. In 2001, when you watch your television
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  Speaker 2: screen and you got the terrible news about those planes
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  Speaker 2: hitting the towers. Look, we work in an emotional business.
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  Speaker 2: We're not immune from emotion, too. We're going to get
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  Speaker 2: fired up about different things we talk about on this
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  Speaker 2: show in regards to sports. But I think everyone who
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  Speaker 2: lived in America during that time, and everybody's got a
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  Speaker 2: very different perspective. Some were close to it. Some were
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  Speaker 2: far away from it. I would consider myself someone who's
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  Speaker 2: far away from it, not having known anyone in in
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  Speaker 2: New York City that day, not having known anyone at
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  Speaker 2: the towers or any of that. But if you were
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  Speaker 2: far away from it or close to it, everybody felt
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  Speaker 2: it intimately that day and in that moment. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that we experience sports in such a different way
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  Speaker 2: at that point also. It really did change perspective on everything.
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  Speaker 2: It gave everybody. I joked about waking up at 5.30,
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  Speaker 2: you're humbled every day when you wake up. I'm humbled
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  Speaker 2: when I think back to the level of appreciation we
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  Speaker 2: had just to get back to normalcy right after that, right?
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  Speaker 2: Just to have games, just to have people in a
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  Speaker 2: stadium celebrating their favorite team, things that you take for granted.
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  Speaker 2: And sadly, it takes things like this sometimes to give
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  Speaker 2: you that perspective to show just how important these things are,
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  Speaker 2: how American they are. Boy, I just think back to
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  Speaker 2: that time, Hutton, and it's so sad. to think about
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  Speaker 2: all the lives lost that day. But also I have
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  Speaker 2: a great respect for everything that followed from nine 11,
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  Speaker 2: because it gave me a new respect for all the
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  Speaker 2: things that I love so much. Forgive me.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I'm going to grab this real quick because there's,
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  Speaker 1: there's a, there's a couple of things I want to
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  Speaker 1: reminisce on, uh, about that moment.
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  Speaker 2: You and I can relate to.
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  Speaker 1: But the first one is you and I are two
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  Speaker 1: years apart. I'm a junior in high school. Um, or
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  Speaker 1: take that back. I'm a, I'm a senior in high school. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in second period and I vividly remember my teacher
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  Speaker 1: coming in and thinking, she's terrified for the boys and
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  Speaker 1: men in the, they're 18 year olds that are in
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  Speaker 1: our class thinking about going to war, right? In the
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  Speaker 1: real time. And over the last 25 years, you and
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  Speaker 1: I have met soldiers and defenders of our country who
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  Speaker 1: signed up for it, for the war on terror. Um,
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  Speaker 1: We certainly know Aaron Bell, who was a Green Beret, right?
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  Speaker 1: Signed up for three or four tours. Craig Nance, a
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  Speaker 1: great friend of ours with connections to the military. In
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  Speaker 1: my backdrop here in my studio, I have the Nick Stone.
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  Speaker 2: Nick is here.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Moses, who signed up for the war on terror
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  Speaker 1: and lost his life after going on, he was preparing
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  Speaker 1: for his fourth tour, going to Afghanistan. These are the
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  Speaker 1: guys I think of on days like today. You mentioned sports.
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  Speaker 1: I remember like during the, you know, everyone kneeling for
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  Speaker 1: the anthem during Kaepernick and the topics we would have
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  Speaker 1: on our show about.
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  Speaker 2: Why do we play the anthem at the games anyway?
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  Speaker 2: This is why.
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  Speaker 1: Because sports and what it meant during that week, that month,
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  Speaker 1: that year, A week later, Chad, George W. Bush stands
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  Speaker 1: on the mound at Yankee Stadium and delivers a strike
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  Speaker 1: right down the middle from the mound at Yankee Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: And what that meant with everybody around, that still sends
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  Speaker 1: chills down my spine, thinking about that moment when he
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  Speaker 1: delivers the strike right down. Standing and giving the speech
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  Speaker 1: in the rubble. I've got family members and great friends.
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  Speaker 1: One of them works at the Pentagon. His office, you
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  Speaker 1: can see the concrete where they repaired the Pentagon and
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  Speaker 1: the different coloration, the discoloration from the new concrete to
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  Speaker 1: the old, and you can see the split in the wall.
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  Speaker 2: Those things are tangible.
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  Speaker 1: And real, and those are the feelings I get today,
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  Speaker 1: along with the coverage and I don't know. That's whenever
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  Speaker 1: America came together and the idea that everybody split. In
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  Speaker 1: the worst moments, it brings everyone together in patriotism. That's
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  Speaker 1: what that was. And that was just 25 years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I will always love Hutton, George W. Bush, for the
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  Speaker 1: immediate response in 9-11. Throwing out the first pitch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The way he handled that. No one knows how
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  Speaker 2: they're going to handle anything in crisis like that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love the way George W. Bush handled it in
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  Speaker 2: that time. And that was a time where everyone did
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  Speaker 2: come together and put aside politics and everything else. And
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  Speaker 2: you bring up a great point. I mean, Pat Tillman,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we just honored the life of Coach Mack,
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  Speaker 2: who Pat Tillman meant so much to him in the
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  Speaker 2: time that he knew him and coaching him with the
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  Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. But that mentality of there is something greater
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  Speaker 2: than me. I'm going to go service that thing that
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  Speaker 2: is greater than me. And I'm going to put aside
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  Speaker 2: whatever's going on in my life right now to go
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  Speaker 2: and defend that. That's lost in so many ways. It's
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  Speaker 2: not lost on me and remembering those who decided to
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  Speaker 2: do that. And I also think about every police officer, firefighter,
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  Speaker 2: emergency personnel that ran into those buildings, that ran into
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  Speaker 2: that section of downtown Manhattan that day. And while everyone
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  Speaker 2: else is running away, while if you were, what we
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  Speaker 2: know about intelligence would tell you, flee, run away from
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  Speaker 2: that rubble, run away from the dust, run away from
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  Speaker 2: the screams. So many people ran towards it. It amazes me.
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  Speaker 2: I am amazed by the fact that someone possesses that
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  Speaker 2: level of courage, that level of humility to run in
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  Speaker 2: and go save people like that. I was talking to
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  Speaker 2: a Nashville police officer recently. recently and he was telling
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  Speaker 2: me about the amount of people who to this day
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  Speaker 2: were there serving when a covenant shooting the school shooting
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  Speaker 2: happened and how mentally they're still not right from a
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  Speaker 2: mental health perspective because that's not something you normally think
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  Speaker 2: about seeing even as a cop when you walk in
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  Speaker 2: and there are young lives like that that have been
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  Speaker 2: that have been massacred um What everyone saw that day,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to put into words, Huth, when you think
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  Speaker 2: back what that meant and how many people just willingly
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  Speaker 2: ran into danger to try to save lives and then
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  Speaker 2: what ultimately happened. It's a good reminder that we are
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  Speaker 2: at our best when we come together. We are not
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  Speaker 2: at our best when we are fighting each other. We
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  Speaker 2: are not at our best when we're bickering about things
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  Speaker 2: that ultimately may not matter, some things that do matter.
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  Speaker 2: But we are at our best when we come together.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's what 9-11 taught us. Look, it
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  Speaker 2: was a tragic, terrible day. But when you look back
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  Speaker 2: to the aftermath of that and how everyone was pulling
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  Speaker 2: in the same direction, at least for a while, on
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  Speaker 2: pretty much everything, it really is amazing to think about
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  Speaker 2: where we were, where we are now, where we could go. And, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just filled with gratitude towards everyone who has that
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  Speaker 2: level of courage that ran towards those buildings that day. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: God bless America.
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  Speaker 1: And in perspective of everyone pulling in the same direction,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Bell, Green Beret, signed up with George W. Bush
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  Speaker 1: as president and ends up in a stairwell in a
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  Speaker 1: hotel in Saudi Arabia with President Obama at the time
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  Speaker 1: smoking a cigarette.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: It was his president and he was serving our country.
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  Speaker 1: That's the perspective I get on days like today. The
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  Speaker 1: guys who signed up when in the moment I'm in
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  Speaker 1: high school terrified that I'm going to go into a draft. Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: that was the perspective of small-town America where a vacation
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  Speaker 1: was going to Dollywood. That's just my personal experience with it.
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  Speaker 1: And not knowing, schools went home that day.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't know. We will never forget.
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  Speaker 1: But what we also can't forget is the patriotism and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that there was truly bipartisan Americans pulling in
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  Speaker 1: the same direction, people that held doors for people. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't have, it didn't matter who you voted for. It
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  Speaker 1: was the country in the moment. That's the perspective that
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  Speaker 1: has been lost over 25.
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  Speaker 2: Years of this. Amen. I totally agree. And let's get
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of that back. Let's also have an appreciation,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for, for sports and what it is we
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  Speaker 2: get to do. I appreciate it every day. We appreciate
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  Speaker 2: our staff that works with us to talk about sports
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  Speaker 2: and these things that we love so much that can
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  Speaker 2: unite people. I'm also watching Netflix last night and that
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  Speaker 2: opened the Friday night lights themed open with Kyle Chandler
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  Speaker 2: voicing over with the high school players coming together and
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  Speaker 2: the clear eyes, full hearts can't lose to some people
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  Speaker 2: that probably meant nothing. if you didn't watch the show.
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  Speaker 2: It got a little misty in the Withrow House when
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  Speaker 2: I watched that, not going to lie. Got some chills
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  Speaker 2: watching all the young players and high school players and
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  Speaker 2: then blending in with the Rams and the 49ers. That
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  Speaker 2: was something else. But that was another reminder of, man,
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  Speaker 2: it's incredible how you can still feel something when you're
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: watching these games, how you can feel something when you
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: think back to impactful moments and things like that. I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely loved the open from Netflix last night.
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  Speaker 1: I did too.
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  Speaker 2: I did not love the gloves that were worn by
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  Speaker 2: the pregame show host.
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  Speaker 1: What was the plant that was being held at the
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  Speaker 1: ceremony from the Australian?
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  Speaker 2: Did you see that? I don't know, but I saw
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  Speaker 2: it and I was immediately like.
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  Speaker 2: My first thought was, there is a tweet coming from
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  Speaker 2: Clay Travis in 3, 2, and sure enough, right then, Clay,
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  Speaker 2: they opened an NFL game by giving the land back
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  Speaker 2: to the native people of Australia. I was like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to set everything ablaze. Yes, with the Aboriginal,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that was, the Aboriginal ceremony to open...
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  Speaker 2: The game was something else. Forgive my cynicism here, too,
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  Speaker 2: because I, too, love the open. But leave it to
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  Speaker 2: the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: On Netflix, where they're going into this deal where are
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  Speaker 1: they breaking the law for the broadcast? Where everybody's got
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  Speaker 1: to pay for every subscription. Netflix, who has Friday games
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  Speaker 1: on high school nights. Opening up with the high school open.
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  Speaker 1: All the feels right there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I also kind of chuckled at the whole thing
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  Speaker 2: with the Kyle Chandler voiceover, which was great, was everyone
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  Speaker 2: will see it. You can see what's happening. Open your eyes.
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  Speaker 2: You can see it. And I'm thinking the argument against
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  Speaker 2: Netflix is not everyone can see it because it's not
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  Speaker 2: broadcast television. And we're doing an opening with everyone can
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  Speaker 2: see it during the game. You just open your eyes.
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  Speaker 2: And you see it, and I'm thinking, man. But again,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give them high marks for production value. The L.
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  Speaker 2: Duncan gloves, I have no idea what's going on. And
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  Speaker 2: then I'm watching the pregame festivities. I'm thinking, it's like
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  Speaker 2: 9 a.m. It's like 9.30 in the morning. They should
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  Speaker 2: have coffee out there in Melbourne getting ready for that game,
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  Speaker 2: which was a 10.35 a.m. local kickoff in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: That market, that entire country, when the UFC goes over
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  Speaker 1: there for pay-per-views, They will start their shows at like
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  Speaker 1: 5 a.m., sold-out arenas, just to make sure it's like...
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  Speaker 1: Because they start at like 5 p.m. something, 7 p.m. No,
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  Speaker 1: like 4 p.m., excuse me, in Vegas. So they get
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  Speaker 1: up for the... It'll be Sunday morning there. It's also
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  Speaker 1: winter there. I'm fascinated by all that.
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  Speaker 2: It did look like winter based on the outfits of people.
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  Speaker 2: There were a couple of light jackets there. Elle Duncan
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  Speaker 2: was showing the gun show off with her black gloves.
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  Speaker 2: I guess her hands were getting cold. But she had
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  Speaker 2: a sleeveless shirt on the whole time. It didn't look
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  Speaker 2: that cold. But it's that time.
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  Speaker 1: The Niners shipped over all of their winter gear.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like 50 degrees or something there.
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  Speaker 1: There were no leaves on the trees.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed that. It looked like winter behind them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There was no foliage at all. I also had, let's
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  Speaker 2: put to bed all the talk about bed and sleep. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it was better to go a week out and completely
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  Speaker 2: acclimate yourself for seven days. Way more expensive to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But then front office sports has the story. And I
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  Speaker 2: think Peter Schrager actually was the one who tweeted it,
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  Speaker 2: that the Rams were sending people to Australia for two
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  Speaker 2: years back and forth to try to study what was
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  Speaker 2: the best route to go and acclimate yourself quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I have theory on this. The Rams were doing that.
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  Speaker 1: But they also bought the rights to that country and
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  Speaker 1: those markets, as the 49ers did, as the Seahawks did.
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  Speaker 1: I bet both of those franchises did as well. What
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing is they're sending staff over, 15 of them.
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  Speaker 1: The Titans did this for London as well. They're going
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  Speaker 1: to paper and market where they're going to do their rallies,
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  Speaker 1: their pep rallies, or all these things.
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  Speaker 2: And then in the.
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  Speaker 1: Rams idea, they're trying to figure out how they're going
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  Speaker 1: to market and set up shop for merchandise full time.
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  Speaker 1: Because the Titans can't go over there and set up
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  Speaker 1: their shop because the Rams own that market now. My
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  Speaker 1: guess is they're doing this, everybody that's involved with this,
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  Speaker 1: because this is going to be an annual deal in
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  Speaker 1: some way. And I wouldn't put it past the NFL
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  Speaker 1: to have this type of schedule moving forward in perpetuity.
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  Speaker 1: where you have the Wednesday night opener, you have Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: like we just saw, and then you get going and
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  Speaker 1: who knows, maybe we get a Friday, but they've got
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  Speaker 1: to get past that high school thing. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that they, yes, they sent that out. It wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: for the sleep study. They weren't testing sleep apnea over
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  Speaker 1: in Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were working. I'm with you. It was a
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  Speaker 2: work trip where they put the whoop things on them
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  Speaker 2: and all the body testing, scanning stuff to see how
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  Speaker 2: good of sleep they were getting on a plane. To
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: see the sleep they were getting there. I know the
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  Speaker 2: Rams also had blackout curtains in the hotel they were in.
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  Speaker 2: They treated it when it was night in L.A. like
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  Speaker 2: it was middle of the day there, but they treated
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  Speaker 2: it like it was nighttime. They were serving them breakfast
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  Speaker 2: at odd times to try to keep them on their
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  Speaker 2: schedule to where to them it would feel like a
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  Speaker 2: five o'clock. kick off Pacific time or 5.30, whenever it was.
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  Speaker 2: But it's impossible.
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  Speaker 1: It's different, I think, if I'm a player or this week,
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  Speaker 1: you have the media asking you questions about it. It's
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  Speaker 1: a constant topic. You have a 17-hour flight. And it's
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  Speaker 1: different if it's a business trip.
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  Speaker 2: You're working for the Rams.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: You're just going over there to hang out and grab
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a beer and hang out with the Crocodile Dundee while
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you try to figure out where you're going to have
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: your practice facility. Because you know you're going to be
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: there for a couple days. and you're going to act
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like you're on Pacific time.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: It's in your head.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I think it would be more difficult to sleep knowing
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that we'll have blackout curtains. Instead of like with you
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and I, we get to London, we didn't have blackout curtains,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: but we wanted to pass out pretty fast. I'm watching it, though,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, man, they needed a lot more than
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: 48 hours there. It worked in London, but, man, the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Rams did not look good at all.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And credit the 49ers. I mean, as that game wore on,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: They just dominated and just put their foot on the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: throat of the Rams in that game. I don't think
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: it means a thing for the Rams this season. They're
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: going to come back home and be just fine. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: was in. I was reading all the stories about it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I was reading the expert opinion of Stanford sleep science
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: experts about which route was better and about the effects
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: on the body and how there's no possible way you're
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: going to get as good a sleep on a plane
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: as you would in a bed when you try to
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: do that. Regardless, your physical fitness will be down when
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you land somewhere after flying that long. And I do
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: think back to our trip to London with the Titans
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: hunting and how I felt landing, how I felt laying
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: down for 30 minutes and like I was completely dead
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: when I tried to land. to get myself back up.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: All those different factors. It's fascinating. Do we need to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: be in Australia? I see the Europe thing. I felt
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: differently about a game in Australia. They've got Australian rules football.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel the urgency there. of a country to
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: be in. I felt the same way about Brazil. I'm
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: watching some of these locations and I'm thinking, I just don't,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I get the money-making, the entrepreneurship of the NFL, but
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: why Australia?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: This is my huge topic here, but you know this
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is about flag football in the Olympics and the NFL
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: owning professional leagues and going global for a sport that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: is not known worldwide like basketball, baseball, soccer. It's way
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: easy to teach the game doing flag These franchises have
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: bought in with the marketing rights, the flag football aspect there.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: You can do it with men and women. You can
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: do it with a young audience. It's relatively injury-free. And
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: now you get to market your superstars globally, and you
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: have streaming services paying millions, if not billions, to do it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. And I'm with you.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You know how it's said it's Titans Entertainment, not Titans Football?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The individual franchises don't care about where their home stadium
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: is right now. They care about the direct flights that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: come into their airport. The Titans are connected to Ireland.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Direct flight to Dublin now. Guess where the Titans' rights are?
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: There.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: They're going to play a game there eventually. And that's
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: what this is about. The whole thing feels.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: um, just dirty. Yeah. It feels a little dirty to me.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: You mean when Roger Goodell was putting on a kangaroo
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: coat during the pregame on Netflix, that didn't feel a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: little dirty. I feel a little patronizing to the Australian
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: people and what they were doing when L Duncan put
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: them on. When L Duncan was, uh, they were doing
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: like the OJ thing with her gloves at one point too,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: about if it doesn't fit, you must've quit. You didn't
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: feel a little dirty when L Duncan, I got, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: got a rail on L Duncan a little earlier because
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: she was so bad. Um, In America, okay, Melbourne is Melbourne, Australia. Melbourne, yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: It's not Melbourne. You're not Australian. She kept pronouncing it
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: like the Aussies would pronounce it. You are not Australian.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I cannot stand. Hang on. They had a funny skit
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: on SNL one time with Ray Romano. Oh, yeah. Where
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: they're doing the Spanish and they do a very Americanized
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: version of the pronunciations. I don't speak Spanish. I'm not
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: even going to attempt to do it. But when people
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: put that affect... on the name of a place because
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: they've been there for a week. I can't stand it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: We all had the friend who went to college in
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: New York city and came back, sounded like she was
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: from the Bronx or he was from the Bronx after
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: like one semester of school and completely changed their accent.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: That's what I felt like watching L Duncan say, Melbourne,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Melbourne over and over. I'm like, it's Melbourne. It's Melbourne.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: That's not Melbourne. Melbourne. Ridiculous. Come on. Although fooling anybody.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Although, if there's a meteorologist in Nashville that says Lebanon.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Instead of Lebanon. We know where they're... Here's what I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: would say to that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Eventually, they're going to say Lebanon on the broadcast locally.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the difference, though, of what I'm talking
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: about here. If Elle Duncan was hired by a Sydney,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Australia TV station, she can say Melbourne all the hell
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: she wants. She can speak with an Australian accent to
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: further connect with the people of Australia. She is an
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: American broadcaster for Netflix USA that is doing an NFL
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: game over there. You don't need to talk like the natives.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: You don't need to talk like the people of Australia. Hutton,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: if I'm from Pennsylvania and I'm hired as a Nashville
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: meteorologist and I'm going to live in Nashville for any
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: period of time, yeah, it's Lafayette. It's not Lafayette. right
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: like you it's it's Milan it's not Milan you start
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to get the names correct because you were living there
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: servicing that community what she is doing is broadcasting to
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Americans on Netflix for an American sport this is an
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: American day when the NFL kicks off it is an American.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Deal it's not an Australian thing I get to call
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: it Greenwich now instead of Greenwich.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Whatever you want. If you live there and that's how
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: they pronounce it, call it however you want. I've always
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: wanted to. I mean, goodness gracious. Come on. Come on, Pete. Look,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it is not. You're servicing no one when you do that, Al.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: The Australians hate you for doing it, and the Americans
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: especially hate you for doing it. That was ridiculous. There
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: lies my overall point.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: They are told and they are focusing on that market,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: not this one, by saying it the way they said it,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you know? That's just where it's headed. If your teams
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: are good, you'll have fans in stadiums. But the NFL
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: is not college football. Don't get it twisted.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I got one more question for you because we're on
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a roll here with this podcast last night. How tall
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: is Noah Eagle when you watch him next to Luke Keekly?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I've been around him. Luke Keekly makes him look like
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: he's five years old when he stands next to him.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like Ian Eagle is not that short. Like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: he's a normal, average-sized guy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, I would say Ian Eagle's probably the average height
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of a male American, which is surprising.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: He's 5'9. I would say he's around 5'9. Wow, that
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: shocks me. I thought he was 5'3. No, no, no,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Ian Eagle. Oh, Ian Eagle, okay. Noah's got to be shorter. Yes.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But, like, how long? So, Keekly, let's find out how
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: tall he is.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Keekly's 6'4. I can tell you how tall he is.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: He's a big guy. But standing next to Noah Eagle,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Noah Eagle just, he looks like one of those guys
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: who's like when he was born, he was 32 years old.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like he's always been an adult.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: By the time he was six, he knew exactly what
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: he was. Ian Eagle's son knew exactly what he was
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: going to do. He probably wore a suit and tie
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to elementary school and started practicing his enunciation of different
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: names the whole time. Like I feel like he's been
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: an adult his whole life when you look at him
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and hear his voice. But yeah. He looks really small
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: next to Luke Kuechly. I would ask for a riser.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: First off, I would give him props, though, for not
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: standing on the Apple box and just beating himself. Also,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: does this mean I get to call Ian now?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Ian Eagle. I don't know. When in Rome. Noah's six
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: feet tall? There is no chance that Noah Eagle is
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: six feet tall. Let's find the picture of the side-by-side
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of him and Luke Kuechly. If he is six foot tall,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Luke Kuechly is seven feet tall. And I know that
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: he's not seven feet tall. He played linebacker in the NFL,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and no seven-footers ever played linebacker in the NFL.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Kuechly's probably, I think you're right, he's probably 6'2 or 6'3.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I think Kuechly's 6'4.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: He's tall. He's a taller linebacker. But yeah, he looked
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: like a giant next to Noah Eagle. Man.
• 27:02
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• 28:52
  Speaker 1: There it is, Chad. Here's Ian with Noah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I stand corrected. Luke Keekly is, in fact, seven feet tall,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: based on what I was saying. Maybe they had Luke
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Keekly on an Apple box to look like he was
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: dwarfing over Noah Eagle the way he was last night.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you could claim if Ian is 5'9,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I think you could claim that Noah, with the hair
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: poof maybe, can reach six feet tall. I would also say....
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: There may be a seven-footer taking this photo because of
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the angle.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: It's angled down. Joel Embiid actually took this photo at
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: an NBA game?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Or maybe Noah's mother because the mother must be tall.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I've always heard Ian likes him tall. He was always,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm sure he went to some, probably
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Syracuse if I had to guess.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Ian. He was always sniffing around that women's basketball team
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: at Syracuse. That could be the case that his mom
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: was a power forward. And that's where Noah got the hype.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I will say both. I don't know Mrs. Eagle. I'm
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: sure she's a lovely woman. But I'm guessing she might
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of hype to her.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I will also add in two things. Number one, both
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: are very, very good at what they do. I have
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: never met anyone else or heard of anyone else with
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the last name Eagle.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that he gave himself this name? No,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm just like, Eagle? It's a
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: badass name.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I have never met anyone with the last name or
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: heard of anyone with the last name Eagle.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: There's not even a fake character with the last name Eagle.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: That's a Hollywood name. That's all I'm saying. Ian Eagle.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: You're destined for show business with the last name Eagle.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're in the play-by-play business and sports broadcasting,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: but it could have been a number of things with
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the last name Eagle. At least he didn't go with Eagle-ay,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you know, since it was Ian instead of Ian. Right, yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with my French roots, and we're
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: going to pronounce this Eagle-ay now, even though it's actually Eagle.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Louisiana with French roots, but we, Chad... We end up having, really,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: SEC meets.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: And it's a moot.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: It's all moot point, Jack, based on the letter from
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the AD to the SEC. No sanctions for LSU after
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: all of this. I still think, Greg's thinking he's pissed.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: No sanctions, but I, you know, man, you've poked the bear.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: It's like the NCAA with Michigan and the non-cooperation. They're
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: coming in and acting like they're going to. The SEC
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: put their foot down, but there's more than that to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: this behind the scenes because of all the government getting involved.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You have the Attorney General talking crap. That's not going
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: away anytime soon.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Well, and leave it to Mike Elko of Texas A &
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: M who had a great analogy for what's going on.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: He said it's basically like dad was out of town
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: for a little bit, and then you get a little
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: too big for your britches, and then dad comes home,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and dad finally raises his voice at you, and the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: response is, I was just kidding. You're ribbing dad a
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: little too hard, and dad gets mad, and then the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: son says, oh, I was just playing around. I was
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: just goofing around. I wasn't serious. That was LSU. They
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: had all these different legal ways to get the players
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to play and do all this. And they got senators
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and governors that sound like Bobby Boucher that are going
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: off on the system and the SEC. And they can't
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: do this to us and all that. And then the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: moment it got real, that dad raised his voice, as
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Mike Elko so eloquently said. They said, okay, we're just joking.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: We're just kidding. Wade Rouse goes on the conference call.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: with all the other SEC presidents and says, hey, guys,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I just want to note my presence here at the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: meeting today, but under advice of counsel, I can't stay
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: on the meeting because we're under active lawsuit from the SEC,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: so I can't talk anymore. And I'm thinking, boy, this
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: is convenient also because you are the outsider in here.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You're the one who tried to push the envelope with
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the SEC and everyone else. It's ridiculous, and I'm sure
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in the state of Louisiana— You know, they're throwing a
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Mardi Gras-like celebration right now, acting like they defeated the SEC. Oh, look,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the SEC backed down. There's no sanctions. We won. No,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: you didn't get the players that you wanted, and you
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: look like idiots to the rest of America. You did
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: not win. Is it Rouse or Ruse? I'm not sure.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Ask Al Duncan. I'm sure Al Duncan knows the exact
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: pronunciation of his name. Actually, it's Ruse.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: You have both he and Fauci pleading the phys-if.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. But it's all said and done. Oh, man.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: But here we are with LSU. I mean, despite all
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of this backdrop, and I know they're the villain, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the praise that I continue to see on ESPN of LSU.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And the team, I mean, they're not going anywhere.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And it feels like the same thing we saw with
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Michigan and the whole push towards the championship when we
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: knew everything was.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Going on behind the scenes. It's still.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: oh, let's talk football and how great this team is
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: despite what's going on off the field. I think there
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: is an attempt to keep it about Saturday, but also
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: we're not stupid, right? The coverage we're having here and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: everywhere isn't about LSU X's and O's at all.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: But that's what they're trying to act like. I say they.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: The whole marketing push of, man, is LSU the best
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: team in the country? You have Feinbaum talking about that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: He's being asked the direct question, is LSU a national
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: title contender?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: He's saying that before the question can be finished. But
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that's the entire segment. It's not what Feinbaum said on
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: SEC Network anymore. I want more of that. Those are
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the sanctions. Those should be the sanctions. not the idea that, man,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: this team is great without these players. They are, but
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: that provides the sentiment that, oh, these NFL scrubs, they
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: didn't really need them anyway, instead of the SEC said no.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: There's a difference there. Well, it's a lack of nuance.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's where we are as a society in general,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: but it's a total lack of nuance. Both things are true.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, the LSU lost against the SEC. They look
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: like clowns. They look like their state is governed by clowns.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: They look like idiots. The fans who defended it look
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: like idiots. They look like idiots to everybody outside of that.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: And they don't care because they're in their bubble. They're
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: in their Cajun bubble down in the boot. And that's
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: all they care about is what their own fans think
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: about them. So they're fine by being ostracized by the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: rest of America. But they do look foolish. Here's the
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: other thing that's true. LSU has a kick-ass team. Their
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: roster is stacked. It's a $ 50 million roster. They've got
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: a great head coach in Lane Kiffin. It's totally valid
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: to ask the question, are they the best team in America? Oh, yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: After one week. They just curb stomped Clemson 51-10. So
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with talking about that. But when you come
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: back with, hey, can we talk about football? That's what
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Let's just talk about the stuff on the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: field now. Hey, let's talk about, oh, nobody cares. That's
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a response to me. I'm sure this will be clipped
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and some LSU fan will say, move on, dude. Nobody cares.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: That is the response of a man who has no response.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: When you just say no one cares, you know you've
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: got no valid response to anything that I'm saying.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: But that's been the response from the faces of college
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: football on ESPN. I think that's my overall emphasis here.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: No matter how you feel about any show you watch,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: that is the show of authority when it comes to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: college football. And I know college game day is about
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the game, but they hit the headline. If that were
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, that would be a different vibe with how
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they're handling it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And I get it. Kiffin is beloved because behind.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: The scenes, he's entertaining. In front of the camera, he
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: can be dry and awkward, but he's entertaining. He pokes
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the bear. He's on social media. So is Diego Pavia.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the– you're following it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It's entertaining. And on game day, it's about the game.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And that's Lane being Lane. And there's golf balls. Okay.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: That halftime speech, Chad, let me give him credit. That
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: halftime speech was about Ole Miss.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: About foot, you know, cleat to throat, you know, hobnail boot.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: That was about Ole Miss and keeping the pedal down,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: about it's us versus the world. And the whole thing
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: started with that move.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And half that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Team from there anyway came with him, you know, the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: coaches too. I get the sense it was about we're
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: getting ready for three weeks from now, and I've got
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to get this team focused on just drubbing. We could
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: see that. It's not out of the realm of possibility.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: That's when it really gets entertaining. It's laid up by
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: 17 in the fourth there.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it is about football more now because this
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: is a moot issue, as they've said, because they're not
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: going to do it. But, look, all these things, it's
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: fine to discuss all these things. Their team is great
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: without the players.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: We'll be great.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: And then it's that. But, I mean, the ESPN thing
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that you keep bringing up, that to me is Jimmy Sexton-influenced.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: As much as it is anything else. And it's just,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you're too close to the forest to see what everyone
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: else is seeing because they're all close to Lane Kiffin.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: You know, they know him very well. You know, I'm
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: sure that Kirk Herbstreit and Lane Kiffin are on a
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: text basis with each other, you know, about a lot
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: of things. We know Saban is. Yeah, and they're represented
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: by the same person. McAfee is. I just don't give
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: it much thought when it comes to that because we
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: talked about Jared Stillman losing his Titans media credential. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: would argue that you could probably do what you do
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: more effectively not being there. You don't have to be
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: there to ask those questions. If a team is inept
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: like the Titans are completely, they're going to give you
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: plenty of fodder. to criticize him and make fun of them,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: which is what he does and does well, right? The
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: same thing goes for that. We can now watch that
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: from afar. You don't have to be friends with Lane Kiffin.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: It would be far more interesting to me if College
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Game Day didn't know Lane Kiffin personally and gave their
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: actual thoughts about what was going on, but I don't
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: think we're ever going to get that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Chad, if you haven't seen the new open for Jarrett
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  Speaker 2: Brand new open.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Banned by the Tennessee Titans. Banned. Oh man. We'll
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: be banned at some point too, I'm sure. No, we
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: all will. Everyone is actually, they still know it. Um, coming,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: coming up, Aaron Rogers goes nuclear.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And, um, man, I gotta say, I have some respect
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: for it when it comes to Shailene Woodley. And, and, uh,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: my initial reaction to the comment about, uh, the whole
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: sex thing, I, I, I think you're going to find
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: hilarious of what I thought he was saying on that
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  Speaker 1: So Cam Hayward has a podcast called Not Just Football,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and that's exactly what Aaron Rodgers is. He's in his
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: final season as he begins the swan song season, the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: tour to retirement, and we'll see what the Steelers ended
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: up doing. But Rodgers will be about ball then. But, man, Chad,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you said during the break he was on one. That's
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the best way to describe this. We start with the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: ESPN discussion. Here is Rodgers discussing the coverage of ESPN
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and Diana Rossini, Mike Vrabel.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: And also ESPN is really scared. Why? Because I can
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: speak up and speak my mind. And that McAfee thing
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: rattled their feathers. Because I didn't just say that on
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: McAfee's show, who is, honestly, I love Pat. And he's
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: done more for that network than any other horrible show
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: they have on there that they think is, they should
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: pay those guys doing it. But I also said, you're
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: a gutless organization because they haven't said anything. They spend
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: so much time on certain issues, but you won't talk
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: one second about the Diana Rossini situation. What just happened?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: The owner of the Niners solicited a prostitute for $ 140
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: in Ohio. That literally was the number one topic. When
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you click on ESPN.com, they will rotate the eight stories
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: or whatever they have, but they usually have the one
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: story that's featured. That was the featured story. So you
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: bring in how many millions of eyes to that situation?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Why do you want to throw.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Jed York under the bus?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But does that have the same effect
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: as a reporter who has intimate relations with a coach
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: who has a vote? Poor MVP has a vote for
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: coach of the year. I don't know if she's on
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame or not, but there's voting stuff.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: There was the thing about Morgan Moses going from the
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Jets to New England that was posted a day early.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: How many other inside stuff was shared? There are a
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: lot of insiders out there. Do they all have strong integrity?
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But the fact that ESPN spent zero
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: time on that story, but Jed York gets popped in
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: San Fran, it's literally on the top of their role
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: That's hypocrisy. Do you have a reason why you think
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: they didn't cover that story? Yeah. What do you think
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: it is?
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot more to it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: So it's deeper. Like the relationship may have been longer.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: The NFL is going to protect the shield. And I,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I respect that, but they're going to do by all
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: means necessary.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: And that's an NFL partner. Now they just bought the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: NFL network. So they're, they're, yeah, they're.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Taking the words out. They got to be very, very careful.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Now let's move on to your family. He's contradicting himself though,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: because they, the NFL is also Jed York. Yeah, I
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: love the, now let's move on to your family. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: kind of want to stick around and see what he
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: had to say about that after that. Yeah, look, he's
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the biggest Jed York defender that I've seen in this
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: whole thing. Saying, why is this guy who got popped
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: for $ 140 prostitution solicitation being covered more stringently than a
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: reporter insider having an intimate relationship with a head coach?
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: And we know why, because it makes ESPN look bad.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: because of her time there. Also because I think there
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: is some NFL stuff with all that. And Hutton, I'll
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: go back to when it comes to Rossini with everyone,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: she's just friends with a lot of people. Just like
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: ESPN not going hard after Lane Kiffin, I think they're
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: buddy-buddy personally, the people talking about them on camera with
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin to the point that they're not going to
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: say much about them. I think Diana Rossini's done a
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: good job of making a lot of friends across the
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: league when it comes to reporters. And for that reason,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: they're slower to speculate. They're slower to say what they know, obviously.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: They're slower to get into that. And I think we
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: saw that with the story. And Aaron Rodgers kind of
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: hitting on that as well.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I would say, I fully expect now that Rodgers is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: going to be on McAfee next week.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Better be, right? I would also say this. There's, the.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Whole ESPN thing, we've been through that with the war
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: of McAfee versus the bosses, right? Like, I think some
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: of the topic will be, is ESPN going to allow
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Rodgers on now? And we've already had that discussion. The
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: answer was yes. McAfee said we won't have him on
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and then immediately had him on.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Like we've been there, done that. Rodgers will be back
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: on McAfee, I expect. If not, then that's McAfee doing
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the opposite of what Rodgers is praising for. But here's
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: what it is, Chad. It's Robert Kraft. Robert Kraft is
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: an owner. He's getting jerked off at Orcas of Asia
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Day Spa, and we don't hear.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: About that anymore. We didn't hear about it then.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: The video evidence is destroyed from that case. Robert Kraft
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: is the lead owner, him and Jerry Jones, of the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: broadcast committee, the media rights committee for the NFL. I
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: don't know why Jed York is the owner no one likes,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: but ESPN's allowed to report on that. But it just
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: so happens that Robert Kraft is the owner of the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots with Mike Vrabel, who's involved with Diana Rossini.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: You're saying this is a Robert Kraft gift protection thing.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: He can keep Netflix and the Tom Brady roast from
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: making fun of him.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: And guess what? Netflix just had a game last night.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely it's about that. You may be on to something there. Hutton,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: by the way, Aaron Rodgers has not appeared on the
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show since early August at training camp when
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: he said all those things about ESPN being gutless, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: he just went on the rant about, why aren't you
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: covering Diana Rossini? Why aren't you doing this? And went
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: on and on.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I think he got banned by ESPN.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: He's not weekly anymore, but I'm saying that early August was, what,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: five weeks ago? I mean, it's not that long. I
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: think he got banned. I think when he says they're
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: a gutless organization and he likes Pat McAfee– I think
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: ESPN pulled the plug from Pat McAfee on Aaron Rodgers
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: at that point. I think Rodgers would say that right there.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Real quick, the Shailene Woodley thing. He's getting into his exes.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: He's going into Danica Patrick. The shocking details is the headline.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to read from FoxNews.com. This is just a quote. Again,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: this is from the Cam Hayward Not Just Football podcast.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Rogers explained that he didn't ruin the actress's life in 2022. Quote,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I proposed to Shailene, and she said yes. Now, she
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: maybe felt like she was forced to make a decision.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: She could have said no.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: A couple days after that, she tells me, before we
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: get married, I've got to go F this guy. And
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, because her story is that I ruined her
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: life and got crazy. In actuality, she told me that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: she took off the ring by March. When I first
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: heard this, I thought she said that Rodgers had to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: go bang some dude. I was like, what? And that
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Rodgers said, no, we're not getting married anymore. That's what
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I thought that he was trying to say. Before we
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: get married, I got to go F this guy. And
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Cameron was like, yeah, yeah. That was my first impression.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I thought she was, you're saying, I'm confused the way
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: you read the quote. I thought you were saying she
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: said before we get married, I have to go F
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: this guy.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: A couple of days after that, Before we get married,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I got to go F this guy. And I'm like,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: that's what he said. But in the story, I hear
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that and I'm thinking, Shailene told Rogers that? Like, I'm
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: thinking that he had to go do this with some,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: because we've always heard she was very eclectic.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Can we say it that way? So was he. But
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, he said no. Well, well done.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Well done. And also well done to him for not
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: allowing his fiancée to do that as well. But man,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: what a weird relationship that was. There's no chair in
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the corner of the room for Aaron Rodgers, is what
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: we're hearing, if he denied that request. He said a lot.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, he also said, you know, Danica Patrick, basically
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the two of them, they get attention when they mention
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: my name. So they continue to bring up my name.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: And he went deep into the whole Danica Patrick thing out.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: She retired and she was depressed and she was terrible
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: to be around. And basically what everyone says about him,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: that he's an awful partner and he's psychologically damaging to
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: be with and all of this. He kind of turned
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the tables and said that about Danica Patrick. I don't know.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: and I kind of like this new open Aaron Rodgers
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: just just shooting from the hip letting it rip on
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: his past on on ESPN on everybody on COVID on
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: the MAGA movement you know he was like it's all
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: a psyop uh and he's like and then they had
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: that bag of bones in office for four years which
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: was really something else talking about Joe Biden I Man,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: this guy just doesn't like anything, I feel like. He
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: gets really into what he's studying or researching. He's very intelligent.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And I can go along with a lot of what
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: he's saying. Sometimes he gets a little bit out there
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: with things he starts talking about. But for the most part,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of nodding my head. I'm like, yeah, this
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: kind of makes sense. Now imagine this.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Two years ago, Rodgers being the nominee for vice president
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: for RFK Jr.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I know. Again... Getting a little out there. Woo! You know,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: at times. No, just the campaign, what he would have said.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: While he's playing. While he's playing. Would have been incredible
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: to watch him suited up against the Cincinnati Bengals on
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the weekend and run for office the rest of the time. Now,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: we still don't know who he's married to, right? We
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: know her name. We know her first name. He said
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: her first name before. Okay. I don't have it in
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: front of me. Yeah, yeah. We've never seen her. Interesting.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know how that's possible. With TMZ around and
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: everything else, is she bubble girl? Does she just live
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: at home and she can't leave the house? I agree, man.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: It's impossible in this day and age. Anyway, we have
• 50:50
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