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Chuck in the Morning 8-14 H1: Mariners Morning After, Terrion Arnold reaction · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Let's do Marin this morning. It is anders Hurst and myself,
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  Speaker 1: Chuck pal No, Ashley Ryan today. I do appreciate this
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  Speaker 1: when people sort of overreact to like somebody sitting out
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  Speaker 1: for a day, or if there's technical difficulties. I get
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  Speaker 1: that the industry can be cruel sometimes, so I guess
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  Speaker 1: I do appreciate it when listeners are like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when there's one Look like when I take a day vacation,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's convinced that I've been fired or died, yes, or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. But no, all is good. Ashley took
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  Speaker 1: a day off today. She's getting ready for a trip
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  Speaker 1: next week, so she's gonna be going for a whole
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  Speaker 1: two weeks. Coming up here pretty soon. Anders Hurst is
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  Speaker 1: here today, Love aving anders On, and it is Chuck.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm back. We are live on the air.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I'm just a talkie boy.
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  Speaker 1: When things go wrong button wise and engineering wise, I
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  Speaker 1: have no clue how to fix it, and I have
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  Speaker 1: kept it that way intense because I am not going
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  Speaker 1: to be host slash engineer ever at any point point
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  Speaker 1: in my career smart man. So anyway, hopefully we're past
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  Speaker 1: whatever technical difficulties we had. If you heard me talk
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  Speaker 1: about Terry and Arnold great. I think it went pretty well,
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  Speaker 1: even though I didn't know if I was on the air,
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  Speaker 1: and that is really hard for people that don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That is like one of the hardest things to do
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  Speaker 1: to not have headsets on and just be talking to
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  Speaker 1: the dark and not knowing if it's getting out there.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll talk about Terry in a little bit later
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  Speaker 1: on with Greg Bell Hugh Millen. We'll do it in
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  Speaker 1: the O Show, and I'll try to find some time
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  Speaker 1: to do a shorter version of what I did at
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  Speaker 1: the top of the hour for you in case it
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  Speaker 1: was missed. But let's get into Mariners morning after. We
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  Speaker 1: actually have a win to discuss today. And let's be
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  Speaker 1: clear about something. None of the problems facing this team
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  Speaker 1: that led them to nine games under five hundred were
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  Speaker 1: so yesterday. Nothing was fixed. I mean, we didn't produce offensively.
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  Speaker 1: Once again. What we needed and what we got was
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  Speaker 1: a herculean effort from our pitchers that took them ound
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  Speaker 1: yesterday at Yankee Stadium, a day after having given up
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  Speaker 1: ten runs. Logan Gilbert was phenomenal, and then Jose Ferrer,
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  Speaker 1: who's been lights out two straight appearances. Bizardo got in
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  Speaker 1: a little trouble, got out of it, got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of help along the way by Johnny Parreeda, who was
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  Speaker 1: terrific yesterday with challenging, which is another thing this team
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  Speaker 1: sucks at. Oh yeah, is challenging. And so Johnny Parreeda
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  Speaker 1: had a challenging day that was one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: days in the history of challenging yesterday from our guy,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Pieda and then Andre Smunos, who's just for those
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  Speaker 1: of you that were worried about him at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the year, nothing to worry about. He has just
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  Speaker 1: been lights out now for as long as I can remember.
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  Speaker 1: And so you didn't allow the Yankees one breath offensively
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  Speaker 1: last night. You choked him out and all you needed
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  Speaker 1: was this one run provided by maybe the most unlikely
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  Speaker 1: source on the.
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  Speaker 3: Entire roster, Weston Wilson. A charged that ball is tagged
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  Speaker 3: to left field and gone. Weston Wilson homers in New
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  Speaker 3: York off of Max Freed, just the second homer the
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  Speaker 3: lefties surrendered all season long.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, Hammam Mariners in front one nothing. I said, Wow
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  Speaker 1: at the time I heard that, I'm said again, only
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  Speaker 1: two home runs allowed to ride these all year long
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  Speaker 1: by one of the better pitchers, I won't say one
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  Speaker 1: of the best, but one of the better pitchers in
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. Max Freed with his two point eight
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  Speaker 1: one ERA even after the game, but Weston Wilson got
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  Speaker 1: him of all people like, well, he's a big boy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if he runs into one, he runs into one. But man,
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  Speaker 1: you're a one eighty hitter coming into that game. You're
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  Speaker 1: only on the roster because of injuries, and even then,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure why you're on the roster quite frankly, sure,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly he gave us something yesterday and that something
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  Speaker 1: turned out to be enough.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's the home run or nothing at this
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  Speaker 4: point for the Mariners, right, I Mean, we knew this
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  Speaker 4: team was going to be built on the long ball.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of what they did last year as well.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is they can't string
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  Speaker 4: anything together. So they either slug and hit homers or
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  Speaker 4: they don't score periods.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and no one does anything else to try to
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  Speaker 1: remedy that. And I mean no one, no one, no players,
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  Speaker 1: no coaches, certainly not the manager. But it is a
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  Speaker 1: win you had. I don't know if you had to
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  Speaker 1: have it, but it felt like you had to have
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  Speaker 1: it one to nothing the final score, You're still eight
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  Speaker 1: gross games under five hundred at this point. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: anders and I do a podcast together during the offseason,
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  Speaker 1: and we did a few more during the season, and
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  Speaker 1: then the World Cup ruined our podcast.
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  Speaker 2: The World Cups. Yeah, World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: But at no point from the end of last year,
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  Speaker 1: in any of my conversations with anders Hurst, had I
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  Speaker 1: thrown out or you thrown out, Like, worst case scenario,
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  Speaker 1: where will this team be on August fourteenth, twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: I would not have come within eight games of saying
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  Speaker 1: eight games under five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: So you would have said the floor would have been
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  Speaker 2: five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: The floor would have been a five hundred baseball team.
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  Speaker 4: I think I agree with you, maybe even a little
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  Speaker 4: bit higher than that. I just especially this year where
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  Speaker 4: we felt like, you know, you had gotten rid of
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the things that were struggling with you.
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  Speaker 4: In twenty three and twenty four, the offense felt like
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  Speaker 4: it had broken out.
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  Speaker 2: You got obviously at a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Of regression from cal which you can't predict, which is
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: A historic amount of regression.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm sure not a lot of people predicted this
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  Speaker 4: floor for this team, but I guess this is kind
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  Speaker 4: of what And that's where I'm wondering, Like where they
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  Speaker 4: were last year, is that the ceiling of the of
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  Speaker 4: the team? Now where we all thought that was kind
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  Speaker 4: of more maybe the middle of things, and you still
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  Speaker 4: had the ability to go win ninety five one hundred games.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know now well.
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  Speaker 1: I I think that this still is a team that
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  Speaker 1: is at the beginning of what should be a championship window.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't come close or hasn't come close this year,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm not gonna back off. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't even a credit to Jerry or Justin or
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  Speaker 1: John or any or anybody else. This is just me
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  Speaker 1: defending me. I'm There's no way I'm that wrong. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: There's no way I'm that wrong about this. Have this
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  Speaker 1: roster being at least playoff worthy and yet one to
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  Speaker 1: nothing win yesterday may have saved any chance of tracking
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  Speaker 1: down the Houston Astros. Here's Dan Wilson after the game.
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  Speaker 1: Quite a ball game.
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  Speaker 5: You don't see one enough to hear very often and
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  Speaker 5: and uh, you know, you first got to tip your
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  Speaker 5: hat to the pitching today for us. Phenomenal what Logan
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  Speaker 5: did there, and then the bullpen coming into to slam
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  Speaker 5: the door. And late in the game, you know, Logan
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  Speaker 5: getting US six and then seven, eight and nine in
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  Speaker 5: the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like we drew it up.
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  Speaker 5: A tremendous job there on the mound, for sure, Wes Wilson,
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  Speaker 5: you know, getting a chance, a good at bat there,
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  Speaker 5: a good long at bat and getting a pitch and
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  Speaker 5: and driving down the ballparking and uh, you know that's
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  Speaker 5: that's the extent of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I thought, Yeah, that's the extent of it.
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  Speaker 1: As energy just cuts him off.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I realize I'm way down the road on the Dan bashing.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm leading the road, uh certainly around these here parts.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm the leader on that road. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but but I guess I guess I should nitpick. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even like how happy he was about the win yesterday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: anyt like that, like celebrating and laughing and hugging the
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  Speaker 1: whole coaching staff. Like I would be like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: there's one I lost three, and I would storm back
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  Speaker 1: into the locker room and game face and there's no
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  Speaker 1: celebrating anything. Yeah, for a long time. This better be
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  Speaker 1: nose to the grindstone. And so I know I'm nitpicking. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know that's probably unfair. And that's not a style either.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's never going to be the guy to just
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  Speaker 1: like hey, okay, let's go. That's just one, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And like he's kind of the guy to kind of
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  Speaker 1: keep especially with a team that's really struggled with confidence
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  Speaker 1: this year, he's going to be the guy to build
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  Speaker 1: them up.
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  Speaker 4: But I think you're not alone in wanting him to
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit more. Just like you said, nose
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  Speaker 4: to the ground, get to work. It's that point the season.
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  Speaker 4: We got to stringle a lot of these games together
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  Speaker 4: if we're gonna do anything here.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like having a miler on your track and
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  Speaker 1: field team that you think is gonna win the state title. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and because he finished, you throw a party, Like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't think I'm gonna throw
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  Speaker 1: a party in that situation. All right, So series of
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  Speaker 1: the Houston Astros tonight, I mean they're forty games remaining,
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  Speaker 1: there's time to do it. But if they're if you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a chunk, this is it. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and categorize this as sweeper die. You know, again,
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  Speaker 1: mathematically probably not necessary, but you could take two out
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  Speaker 1: of three from Houston and you gain one flipping game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you take all three. Now you take a big chunk
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  Speaker 1: out of that lead, and you have thirty seven games
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  Speaker 1: to chase down two more games, So to me, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of sweeper die. And we will have a pitching
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  Speaker 1: matchup of George Kirby tonight against Peter Lambert, who sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a Hugh Grant movie character. Oh it's Peter Lambert.
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  Speaker 1: I love Pet. He's so charming. And then Hugh Grant
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  Speaker 1: gives that Grima's face of his where he frowns exaggeratingly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, Whez, where's Bridget?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: But Kirby versus Lambert is your pitching matchup tonight, game
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  Speaker 1: one of the series against the Astros. All right, Greg
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  Speaker 1: Bell join us at seven oh five headlines at seven o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I gotta kind of recap that Terry and
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  Speaker 1: Arnold twenty minute monologue I did early so good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said we got to do it again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it won't be nearly as good, I promise. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, oh we're smoking. Now it's Chuck and Anders
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  Speaker 1: with you to Ashley's got the day off. Greg Bell
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  Speaker 1: join us at seven oh five. A lot to discuss
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  Speaker 1: with him. We also have your headlines at seven o'clock
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  Speaker 1: as well, Hu Mill and our first official x's and
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  Speaker 1: o's of the year coming up at nine o'clock, and
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of goodies in between. We did have some
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  Speaker 1: technical difficulties. That's the last time I'm gonna mention it, probably,
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  Speaker 1: but it does explain I still to this moment. Don't
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  Speaker 1: know if anybody heard the opening segment, but I did
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  Speaker 1: a twenty minute monologue not knowing if I was on
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  Speaker 1: the air or not, about Terry and Arnold. Now that's
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  Speaker 1: our big story. So now I know we're on the air,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess I should talk about Terry and Arnold
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  Speaker 1: again since there might not be another window, So I'll
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  Speaker 1: try to do a far convinced I got to do
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  Speaker 1: a three minute version of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah codes it, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean my thoughts on Arnold and the signing of
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  Speaker 1: Arnold have been pretty clear, I don't do it. I
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  Speaker 1: think that this you've you've climbed the ladder to the top.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're sitting on the throne here, and you
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  Speaker 1: did it without taking risks like this on characters. I
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  Speaker 1: get it. Talent wins, and that's been a motto general
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  Speaker 1: managers in every sport have followed for a number of years.
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  Speaker 1: You might have been the one organization that broke that
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  Speaker 1: mold that certainly you're not sacrificing talent. You're getting talented
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  Speaker 1: guys in the draft and trades and free agency, and
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  Speaker 1: you've done a masterful job at it. I mean, Leonard
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  Speaker 1: Williams was considered one of the maybe the number one
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  Speaker 1: overall pick when he came out in the NFL draft,
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  Speaker 1: and you got him because you saw talent in him.
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  Speaker 1: And it turns out he's an awesome teammate and an
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  Speaker 1: awesome human and he had his best football left in him.
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  Speaker 1: And good on you. But you definitely were incorporating what
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  Speaker 1: a character guide that you thought he was. And that's
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  Speaker 1: happened in each of the last three drafts, even going
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  Speaker 1: back to the last draft he Carol did, which set
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  Speaker 1: the foundation for this championship. That's the Spoon. That was
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  Speaker 1: the peak draft, yep Spoon and JSN. But since that time,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen three drafts. I've covered them all, and every
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  Speaker 1: single draft, I'm like, man, what an impressive young man. Man,
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  Speaker 1: what an impressive young man? Just in the interview, Just
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  Speaker 1: in the interview. So you've sort of broke them all
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yes, you're not sacrificing talent, but you
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  Speaker 1: have prioritized character a lot more. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold as a bad character. I do know
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  Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Of all the teams that should have
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  Speaker 1: waited out to see let's find out more about this,
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  Speaker 1: we've invested a lot in this guy. He's twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years old. It's a first round draft pick. Our secondary
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  Speaker 1: is what's cost us from achieving our goals the last
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  Speaker 1: two years because we haven't had You couldn't possibly have
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  Speaker 1: amassed enough depth in Detroit to take care of all
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  Speaker 1: of the injuries that you suffered in your secondary. Of
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  Speaker 1: all the franchises that would have, let's see it through,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been the Detroit Lions, and they cut
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  Speaker 1: him immediately. Now I'm sure they had the information first,
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  Speaker 1: but the moment, the story got out to the public.
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  Speaker 1: They cut him the next day. What does that tell you?
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  Speaker 1: It's not just about the case. They didn't really like
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  Speaker 1: him all that much as a football player. Yes, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't like him all that much as a teammate. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't think he was Lions material. Otherwise they would have
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  Speaker 1: waited and for all the teams to be at the
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  Speaker 1: front of the line and the Terry and Arnold sweepstakes.
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  Speaker 1: The team that won a championship built a culture that
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  Speaker 1: the entire NFL is jealous over. In two short years,
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  Speaker 1: has decided to roll the dice on a former first
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  Speaker 1: round pick who turned out to be not that good
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  Speaker 1: and brings this story to your doorstep right off the bat.
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  Speaker 1: He might have some character issues beyond the crime. Why
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  Speaker 1: how is the reward? Look when we go to the movies.
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  Speaker 1: Every single time I've watched a Jason Stathan movie in
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  Speaker 1: the last ten years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Jason, Oh stop, I do I get you there?
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  Speaker 1: You sit in the theater and you're like, this guy
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  Speaker 1: is exacting vengeance. Somebody stole from him or tripped his
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  Speaker 1: grandma or you know, toward the tags off his mattresses,
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  Speaker 1: and he's out for bloody revenge. And we're there for
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  Speaker 1: all of it. We love it, and Jason Statham can
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  Speaker 1: kick some ass. Yeah, but when you leave the theater
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  Speaker 1: and somebody parks too close to you, you don't wait
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  Speaker 1: outside the theater with a tire iron to beat him in.
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  Speaker 2: The face like Jason stan does.
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And so I think Terry and Arnold probably watched too
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  Speaker 1: many movies or grew up in an area where he
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  Speaker 1: watched some aggressive activity like that take place. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: not a bad guy. He's not a bad guy, but
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  Speaker 1: he's a very minimum dumb.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah for being a part of this very minimum made
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  Speaker 4: a terrible mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very minimum. We got a question at least
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  Speaker 1: his decision making. Yes, even if you celebrate, I like
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  Speaker 1: a guy that goes and takes justice into his own
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  Speaker 1: hands and then look at the I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: there's not something to that, sure, but he at least
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  Speaker 1: with that much to lose, Why on earth would you
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  Speaker 1: do something that over the top and put yourself in
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  Speaker 1: a position to lose everything you have. You either didn't
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  Speaker 1: know the law, didn't understand that that was kidnapping, and
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  Speaker 1: then on top of it, I don't know if this
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  Speaker 1: is true or not. There's some stories out there suggesting
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  Speaker 1: they didn't even have the right people. So I'm I
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  Speaker 1: don't like it. I'm not in the hate category. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not the absolutely not category, but I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in the I don't like it category because i
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  Speaker 1: just don't feel it's necessary that, of all the organizations
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  Speaker 1: in sports that doesn't need to make a move like this,
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  Speaker 1: it's the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: But they made it all right.
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