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Rocket's Journey · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 3: to Movie Meltdown, I'm Brian. And I'm George.
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  Speaker 5: the Odyssey Studios. Back for another installment of the Super Series. Which.
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  Speaker 3: It's gone back and forth for me. Okay. In the
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  Speaker 3: last phase.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that recently, because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people online are grumbling about the last phase. Mm-hmm. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, yeah, I wasn't thrilled with some
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  Speaker 1: of them along the way. And I looked, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like there's that peak in the middle. I really enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: the Doctor Strange, and I really liked the final Spider-Man.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. And the other ones are all kind of like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're fine. But I don't feel like I want to
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  Speaker 3: revisit them a whole lot. I could... I mean, I...
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: I have a general love for Marvel anyway just because
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  Speaker 3: I grew up as a Marvel kid reading comics. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy just to get anything. I'm that kind of
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: fan where I remember the dark days where you would
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  Speaker 3: get occasionally a superhero movie and maybe it was good.
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  Speaker 3: But you had a 40% chance that it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be good and a 60% chance that it was
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  Speaker 3: going to suck.
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  Speaker 1: They just didn't make them theatrically for a long time
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  Speaker 1: there or at least giant stretches of time when they
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  Speaker 1: were like, we can't do that. So until the magic
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  Speaker 1: of CG.
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  Speaker 3: Came along and we can do whatever the hell we
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  Speaker 3: want now, like, so. Yeah, there are certain, you know,
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  Speaker 3: little high points, like Blade was a high point early
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  Speaker 3: on and, you know. But that's one people even kind
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  Speaker 3: of forget is one.
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  Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, that's more of like a horror movie.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, I mean, he's a vampire. Yeah. But, you know. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it is a horror movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's a horror movie, but it's also a horror comic
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  Speaker 1: and that's how it got to be a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's the little peaks along the way of,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I can at least see the argument that basically, okay, it's,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Phase 1 was so epic because it was
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  Speaker 3: all new. It was covering territory that fans had wanted
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  Speaker 3: to see. We wanted to see Captain America and Thor
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: and Iron Man, basically the whole Avengers on screen. We
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  Speaker 3: wanted to see all that stuff. And we finally were
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  Speaker 3: getting it. We're getting quality films. And we're also, it
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  Speaker 3: was so exciting. It was so new. and there was
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  Speaker 3: so much buzz to it, and then building up to
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  Speaker 3: your first Avengers, and then basically taking us all the
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  Speaker 3: way the path to Infinity War and Endgame to kind
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  Speaker 3: of cap off that run.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, yeah, that was absolutely epic. It was
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  Speaker 1: so epic that I think they also killed themselves. They
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: shot themselves in the foot.
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  Speaker 3: We're just like, shit, what do we do now?
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, make a Spider-Man real quick while they're
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: not thinking about it.
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  Speaker 3: This is literally the sports equivalent of we've won the
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  Speaker 3: state title and then everybody graduates and now we've got
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  Speaker 3: a whole new team. We're starting all over. Yeah, we've
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  Speaker 3: got the bad news bears now. The rebuilding year. And
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  Speaker 3: that's exactly what this is. Yeah. This is the rebuilding here.
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  Speaker 3: So I've had the patience to know that and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: wait to see what we're going to build towards. And
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  Speaker 3: we are building towards another pair of Avengers films.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're coming out in 25 and 26 respectively. But
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: we are waiting for some Avengers films. And we've got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of building here. Now, of course, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we have kind of our, you know, first real good
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: look at our big bad, Ming Kang. Don't know if
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Majors is... I was going to say, we haven't
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: had a chance to discuss that. When we watched the movie,
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  Speaker 3: he hadn't totally gotten himself in trouble. There was already inklings,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like. Yeah. Whispers of him pulling weird shit.
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  Speaker 3: But now he's full on in a lot of trouble.
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  Speaker 3: And rightfully so, if it's all true. So, I mean,
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I wonder if he's going to be
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: playing that role. Well, you know, the whole thing with...
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: DC and their Ezra Miller problem with the Flash movie. Yeah,
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: same thing. I'm literally thinking, yeah, different crime, same kind
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  Speaker 3: of jerk. Well, from the beginning, I just didn't like him.
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  Speaker 1: Like, even that first time we saw Justice League, I'm
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: just like, what is this casting? I was just like, he's,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess for certain movies, a weird, uncomfortable
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: movie like everybody knew him from to begin with, sure, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's the Flash.
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, this is weird. Yeah, the Flash isn't
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  Speaker 3: the awkward... They're trying to make, basically, the Flash like Spider-Man,
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  Speaker 3: where he's nerdy, he's awkward, he's weird, you know, sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing like that. He doesn't fit. Yes, not that
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  Speaker 3: version of Spider-Man. That's not Barry Allen. Barry Allen's a
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: completely different kind of character. Yes, he is a scientific
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: character because he's a chronologist and he's a CSI investigator.
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: Did I say investigator twice? I did, yeah. So he's
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: a CS investigator. But anyway, yeah, so he's, you know,
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  Speaker 3: He is a scientific and technical character, but he's not
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  Speaker 3: nerdy and awkward and weird. He's a nice guy. He's
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  Speaker 3: very hopeful and he's bright side of things, even though
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: he's lived in a lot of darkness. It made it so.
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  Speaker 1: Much harder because we came off of having a good,
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  Speaker 1: really good version of him on TV.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. So it's like.
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  Speaker 1: they got perfect casting there. Like he is nerdy, but
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  Speaker 1: super likable. Like he can be quirky, but it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Come off as awkward. It's just kind of, Hey, he's
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  Speaker 3: just kind of dorky, but that's why we love him. Yeah. Yeah. Great.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get that from him. Like, you're just like, Oh,
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: who's this guy? And that was before he got in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, just from the get go, I was like, No, really?
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Who is this guy?
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: Why is he in our movie? And that was the
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: best thing, too, is that all the fans were just like, okay, well,
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: forget Ezra, recast Grant. Just put Grant Gustin in there.
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: We already love that. Do the crossover in the movies.
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: There you go. Or don't even address it as a crossover.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: This is just a... A different timeline. Go for it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we got different timelines and different crossovers and multiversal kind
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: of stuff. It's a different area. It happens in The
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  Speaker 3: Flash all the time. Yeah, literally. This is a good
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: way to do that. Yeah, so... Yeah, but anyway, so
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm curious to see if Jonathan Majors
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  Speaker 3: is going to stay in the role.
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he.
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: Was good in that last movie, I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: But again, I don't know that we were attached enough
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  Speaker 1: to him that, like, if they got somebody equal, he
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  Speaker 1: is impressive, that we couldn't switch out and be okay.
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we were fine with Rhodey. I mean,
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: we had Terrence Howard I think we got way better.
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: I do too. I mean, I like Don Cheadle way
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: more than I like Terrence Howard.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Terrence Howard serves purposes in specific projects, but like,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: Rhodey is lovable. You know, it's just like, he's just,
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: once you get in there, like, he's a super lovable
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: character and like, you didn't get that from Terrence Howard.
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: Like, he's just much like Robert Downey Jr. We all
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: just kind of bristle with him like he's like I
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: mean we like him as he.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Helped him out but you know yeah it's not the
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: same once you get to Don Cheadle he's just a
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  Speaker 1: super charismatic guy well and.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: The chemistry is there between Robert and Don where it's
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: like they actually do seem like friends I never got
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: that with Terrence.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Howard no which again I mean they're still finding their
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: feet on that first movie anyway but still like there
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: was definitely a disconnect there that you don't get once
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: you get Don Cheadle yeah.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: No, sorry. But, yes, I mean, we will see how
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: things go. I mean, they did have a lot riding
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: on this guy because he's basically going to be a
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  Speaker 3: major part of the remaining phase until we get to
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: the two Avengers films where we face off with Kang. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to probably still stick with Kang. Whether or
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: not Jonathan Majors will stay in the role remains to
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  Speaker 3: be seen. I think they're so far in on, I mean,
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: that's the.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: key factor to the big two-part series, so, like, it'd
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: be hard to change up villains already, but.
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: Could you easily swap out that actor? Yes, you could. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see how that goes.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Do we want to get into any other projects, or
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: are we just already knee-deep in Marvel and keep rolling?
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: Let's see, I will say, I'm watching the series Mrs.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: Davis over on Peacock. That is a I love weird stuff,
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: especially when it gets ambitious and weird. I think that's
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: the one I've seen some ads for in the last
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: day or so and went, wait, what is this? It's great. Essentially,
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  Speaker 3: you have kind of like if Facebook literally controlled the world.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: It was trying for a while. I think now it's
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: just for grandparents. So it's worked itself out.
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  Speaker 3: It's a program that, you know, eventually they develop it
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  Speaker 3: in AI and the AI becomes self-aware. And then now basically,
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: you know, basically the program has dubbed itself, it calls
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: itself Mrs. Davis. So it's given itself identity and whatever else.
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  Speaker 3: And so now basically, you know, because it's kind of
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: controlling the world, there's basically some conflicts going on here
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  Speaker 3: that basically... They need to get Mrs. Davis shut down,
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: but Mrs. Davis is also aware of this fact that
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: she needs to be shut down. We need a Skynet territory. So,
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: but here's the caveat. She picks, you know, this character
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: who's basically a nun, and she has to go and find...
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: The Holy Grail. So she goes on basically a search
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: for a MacGuffin to help. Like literally the Holy Grail?
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Literally the Holy Grail. Something we're treating as the Holy Grail.
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  Speaker 3: So this AI essentially puts its own adversary on a
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: MacGuffin search to find a device that will shut down itself.
• 13:08
  Speaker 7: Hmm.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: This is complicated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But it's weird. I just I love it. So we're
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: a few episodes in because basically they're released in like
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: one a week. Yeah. But yes we're a few episodes
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  Speaker 3: in and yeah that.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: If we're doing series, because I hadn't decided if I
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: was going into this because I just got started. I'm
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: only a few episodes in on this one. But yeah,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: I just started in the last week or so watching Beef.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Okay. Have you heard about it at least? I've heard it.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: I know. Steven Young won me over at first.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know the other half of the main characters,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: we'll say.
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  Speaker 3: Conflict, definitely.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: As Ali Wong I didn't know that until I started
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: watching it I was like okay this is I did
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: not know what to expect I just saw him on
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: the morning shows doing some sort of press for it
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  Speaker 1: and I was like well it's cool that he's got
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: a new series and something I mean he's already kind
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: of crossed over into big.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Films you know last year so now he's trying another.
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  Speaker 1: Series so I'm like alright this is cool I always
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: like him anyway but had no idea what exactly it was.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah I don't even know the series about it either I'll.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Keep it Light, but basically it is like the beef
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: itself is a fight type of beef.
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  Speaker 3: And it's basically a very.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Minimal little situation arises between these two characters, and they
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: kind of get into a weird thing, and then it
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: continues to escalate. I'm only a few episodes in, and
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I'm already like, wow, this went from... I mean, there's
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: no reason for any of this to be happening, but
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: they're both such weird characters. And that's what I'm so
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: impressed with so far. And that's at least why I
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to go ahead and bring it up was if
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: you didn't know what it was, or we're, we're considering,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: you know, do I want to, because it's, it's not
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: a weird like subsection or sub genre of anything specific.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: It is, I guess just a full on drama more
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: or less, but the level of the, like it is
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: so well written and not just like dialogue wise, but
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  Speaker 1: character wise.
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  Speaker 3: And, and they're, Again, you don't know what to expect
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: from both of these if you've only seen them in, like,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: We mostly saw him fighting zombies for the longest time.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: And she does a lot of comedy, so, like, you
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect.
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  Speaker 3: And, like, both of them are just A-game here. And
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: these characters are so messed up.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And, like, not in a traditional overacting sort of a way. It's, like,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: they're both, like, opposite ends of he's, like, super broke
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: and working as, like, a handyman and, like, it's barely
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: surviving and some of the stuff he's doing is not
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: necessarily legal so like he's living on that end and
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: she is like married to somebody who came from money
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: she's working on like this multi-million dollar deal she's trying
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: to land so like she's the opposite end of the
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: financial spectrum but then at the same time is super
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: unhappy in so many aspects of her life that she
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't even like fully discuss even with like her husband
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: or like anybody else and And he's in just like
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: a normal state of like poverty problems. But then on
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: top of that, there's these underlying issues that he has from.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: His past, from his parents, from, you know, just people
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: in general. And I'm so amazed with that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a scene that he does that is
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: one of the best, like just performance acting period.
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  Speaker 3: And it's all just like facially almost.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: It's like you're watching him go through this scenario where
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: he's like, dealing with these people and he's kind of
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: blowing it off.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: As like he doesn't care.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: And then he starts to realize he needs to care
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: about this. And then he starts to get like emotional
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: about it. And it's like all in the span of
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: like a minute and a half, two minutes.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: He goes through this entire like spectrum of emotion that
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: is just phenomenal. Like I really was not prepared to
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: enjoy it as much. For something that's a weird drama,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: it's also... a lot of fun along the way so
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: yeah it surprisingly works for the weird balance of things
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: that it is so yeah it's definitely worth checking out
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: i'm enjoying it so far i'm just a few episodes
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: in interesting tie into where we're going later there's a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: lot of specifically end of each episode has a very
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: important needle drop that kicks in and you're just like Oh, well,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: that's a really cool way to end this episode. So
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: they kind of go out on a very specific song
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and it's, I'm trying to decide what the reasoning, it's sort.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Of a time period thing, but not exactly.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Like there's a big span, but they're all like, I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's like a generational, what these characters
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: would have been.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: At that point in their life when they keep pulling.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: These songs from, cause they're like early two thousands, late
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: nineties in some sense. So I'm like, I'm trying to
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: decide what they're going with on this, theme of songs
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: that they're ending each episode with.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: That's one thing I've noticed about a lot of modern
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: television is that they're getting much better than the films
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: are when it comes to basically picking the right song
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: to end an episode or to pinpoint a certain scene
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: or whatever else. Yeah, TV's doing great jobs with that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Or just featuring a song. TV didn't used to do that. Right, yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: It wasn't even like you would see, you know, it
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: became a thing in films over the years with specific
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: directors especially, but... TV just didn't do that. Yeah, it
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: used to be just like the opening theme song to
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: the show was the song. And that was it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: That was the only music you got other than maybe
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: some like orchestra stuff that they worked in. If it
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: was a dramatic, you know, cop drama or something.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Interstitial kind of stuff. Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But then the first one I remember, and it's funny
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that now like they all kind of ripped that off.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And I guess it makes sense that it's a theatrical director.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Homicide started doing that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And again, kind of maybe late 90s. early 2000s when
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that got on its run there and it's Barry Levinson
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: so it's like it was very cinematic in the way
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: it shot it and then it found a way to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: work in music by the the more it went on
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the more I think they got into that as.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: A series Miami Vice did it earlier yeah that's true
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: because basically they made the Phil Collins song in the
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: air not a hit yeah Because, you know, like you
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: got that scene, that one episode where, you know, basically,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: you know, Crockett and Tubbs got a big showdown. They're
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: in the Lamborghini. Like, they're loading the guns on the
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: way to the big shootout, whatever else. And that song's playing.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: It's like the whole atmosphere's going down.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: It's like.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Well, again, Michael Mann, who would become a very theatrical director.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: He had already done Manhunter before that. Yeah, exactly. He
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: started in that area. So, yeah, again, you get talented people.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: but see there we go so theatrics plus television equals.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Good but yeah i mean now that's not unusual at
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: all like that's you know.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah it is a new golden age of television if.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: You want to call it television anymore i mean it's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: all streaming services none of it's even broadcast tv for
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the most part anymore it's not networks anymore it's all
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: whatever streaming picked this up but um But yeah, it's
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: interesting when it was that early on, when it was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like 80s and 90s when nobody was doing that. So
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you see that planting that seed, and now every show
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: in the world does it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Briefly back to Steven Yeun real quick. I'm not sure
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: if you've heard this, but he has joined the MCU.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: He will be appearing as an undisclosed character at this
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: point in the Thunderbolts film. Interesting. So there's a lot
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: of speculation as to who he's going to play, but
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: they said he's basically... His character apparently is very important,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: but also Steven himself said, like, I don't know how
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: long we'll be playing this character, so he may be
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a one-and-done performance. Interesting. So I'm very curious to see
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: what that's going to be.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: It is good to see, again, especially now seeing how
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: talented he is, because I really didn't know him before
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Walking Dead. So it's like, I think it's one of
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: those he was just sort of thrown in there and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: then got into accidentally.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: The biggest show in the world. Yeah, the world fell apart.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Because who would have seen that that would have become
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the show that it did? I mean, people didn't care
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: about that kind of stuff. And then for some reason,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: they did all of a sudden.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: And it's great, too, that he was cast as the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: role of Glenn because Glenn, if you've read the book,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: is almost everybody's favorite character because he's such a likable guy.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: He doesn't do anything to piss off the audience. The
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: way he dies in the show versus how he dies
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: in the book is a little different, but it's still
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: tragic nonetheless. It was something I don't think people were
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: prepared for. No. That is the turning point in the show.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've said for a while, there's a point where,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you bring in the bad for them, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's great, but that's also, it became
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Jump the Shark at that point. I'm like, that's the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: best impressive buildup and reveal of a character, and that
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: final episode there with him is amazing. And then after that,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know that I need to watch this.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It drops off because it's not fun after he shows up.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It quit being entertaining and it's just depressing. A lot
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: of that's probably because, spoilers, one of our favorite characters
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: is gone at that point.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, well, now we don't have him to
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: make us feel a little better. He lightened the mood sometimes.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: And then we've got all this other grim nonsense going on.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh, this is not fun. Well, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: the thing is, too, is that so much of reality
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: kind of kicked in as they're doing the show. So
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: actors are leaving the show before their characters are killed off.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Or even in the case of Carl, Chandler Riggs, his
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: character makes it to the literal end of the book. He,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you know, basically everything kind of goes on his focus.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You know, Rick doesn't die until, you know, spoiler alert,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't die until the final, basically the second to last issue.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: of the series. And then basically the final issue is
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like a huge jump ahead to see like how far
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: things have gone since Rick's passing. And it does end
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: in the Commonwealth as the show did. So, but that's saying,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you know, Chandler Riggs left the show. And so it's like, oh, great.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: So like the character who's the last one, the one
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: we're following in this story is no longer around. Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: So they have to kind of really transfer everything to Judith,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: who is also weird because Judith's character doesn't make it
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: out of the prison.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: So, you know, and then, you know, other people start
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: leaving the show where I was like, oh, my God.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Well, and I don't know why, other than when they,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, they killed off a bunch of them. But
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: as far as career-wise, which is usually the more behind-the-scenes reasons,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: nobody's really done anything. They've attempted a few things along
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the way. But, I mean, Steven's probably the biggest success story.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, Michonne, yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even then, she's like a side character on
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a super successful series, but she's still not the first
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: one anybody thinks of when they think of even that property,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: let alone the whole Marvel world.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: It all depends on who you talk to. I like her.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's amazing in that role, but still, it's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: not like they gave her her own film series or something.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Well, they haven't done that yet, but nonetheless, it all
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: depends on who you talk to, because Michonne's a very
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: loved character, especially when you're talking to different ladies and whatnot. Oh, yeah.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, she's been in both Black Panther films,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: and she was in two of the biggest films in
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the world, you know, Infinity War and Endgame. And she
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: didn't get dusted, so she got to do stuff in
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: both those films, you know, and be a very important character. So, yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, she and Steven are definitely the
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: two breakouts. Andrew Lincoln was kind of known before Walking
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Dead because of Love Actually.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: For the most uncomfortable scene in any rom-com ever.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the world's most lovable stalker, basically. And homewrecker. Yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: he's such a.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Well, again, just that one decision makes him the most
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: unlikable character all of a sudden. And you're just like, well,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: if we don't care about this character, why do we
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: care about any of these characters?
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Like, it ruined that movie for me. Yeah, he is
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the world's worst best friend. Most definitely. He's like, I'm
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: going to hook you up with your wife-to-be and then
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going to steal her out from under you. Or not.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing. It's like he doesn't even
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: accomplish anything. But I'm like, if you're not.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Going to do anything with it, then just shut up
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: about it and go on about your life and go
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: find somebody else.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the damage has been done
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: because in the movie, you know, he tells her the truth.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: He gets a kiss and the seed has been planted.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: So if anything ever goes astray with her husband, she
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: knows she's got it. She knows where she's going, yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: You know, in case of emergency, break the last four dick.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: What a ridiculous relationship to be in for either of them, really. Well,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I can't get with anybody because, you know, I'm on
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: hold for another relationship to fall apart.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: So, sorry, can't go on any dates.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm busy waiting for this relationship with my best friend
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to completely dissolve so I can steal his girlfriend.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Yes what a mess so yeah I wonder how much damage.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: That did to his career outside of Walking Dead like
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: everybody loved him as Rick and I did too but
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: like as time went on I'm like can I see
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: him doing anything else because the.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Only other thing I've seen him do he's.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Not likable in so we haven't really seen anything else
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: since then.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah and the screwed up thing too is that okay
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: so he leaves Walking Dead because he's going to do
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Walking Dead movies and going to have opportunities to do
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: other things get off a series Great. Where are those, A,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Walking Dead movies, and B, where are the other opportunities
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: you left Walking Dead for? Because, frankly, you were gone
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: from the show for, what, two years before you showed
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: up for the finale, and we haven't seen shit from
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: you since. Well, that's true for most of the other ones.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, where? I don't know.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I got so over it anyway, and I feel like
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: everybody did, because while it was.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing in the world, it was amazing... But it's.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Also interesting what a drop-off it was.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And now when you talk to people, you're like, oh, that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I'm over that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Like, everybody turned that corner. And there was only a
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: handful of weird people that were still hanging on on
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that last couple of seasons. And I'm just like, it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: strange how quickly everybody just... Not even turned on it
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: as much as just didn't care anymore. They just moved
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: on immediately and found some new streaming show to watch.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was a lot of fatigue, I think.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: The Negan and the Saviors season took a lot out
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: of people. And then adding more shows. Like, because, do
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: we need fear? I don't know. No. Some people that
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: watched it, nobody really raved about it. Some of them.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Were like, oh, there's some good characters, or there's this storyline,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: but do we need a whole other series in the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: same universe?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: And then they started another one, and they're doing how
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: many more? And I'm like, does anybody care anymore?
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: No.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Just calm down. Well, see, let's think, even some of
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the new spinoff series that are coming are already changing. Like,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: we still have the Rick and Michonne series that's supposed
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: to come. We're supposed to have the Daryl offshoot. The
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Daryl offshoot, which was going to be Daryl and Carol,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: and now it's just Daryl. And then we were going
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: to have the Negan and Maggie series, but I think
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: That's on hold or changing already, too. So, I.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Know. I'm going to leave it alone. We can move on.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I would say, like, let's do some mini-movies. Like, you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: each little group gets one mini-movie each. And then it's like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: let's just... Yeah. Let's just table this thing and go
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: for something else. At this point, there's no rule anymore.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: So, it was different when you had to go by
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: either theatrical or you had a TV series.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: But, like, now.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: If you want to make a deal with Netflix, want
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to do a one-off 30-minute.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Thing, you can do that. Nobody makes the rules now.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Everything is do whatever the hell you want. As long
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: as you make us money, we don't care anymore. Or
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: a show gets popular like Yellowstone and suddenly like, hey,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: we're going to do a prequel about the beginnings of
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Yellowstone and we're going to get Harrison Ford to be
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: in the show. It's the biggest thing in the world.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, everybody's watching it. That's all it
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: takes is just finding that weird.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: alchemy that makes no sense but suddenly it's.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: The biggest streaming show in the world. Speaking of streaming stuff,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: there's one movie in particular that's been getting a lot
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: of buzz and I checked it out very recently. It's
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: on Netflix. Technically it's a horror film but it's called
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Soft and Quiet. Have you heard about this?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Not really.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: It's a movie that got a lot of buzz in
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the film festival circuits I think last year. and hadn't
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: had a wide distribution just yet. It is a very
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: small kind of film, but it's also very clever because
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: it's one of those one-take films. So basically, apparently the
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: production of the entire cast performed the script in its
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: entirety four or five times and A few of those.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Sometimes that works really well. Yeah, and basically it was
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: like take four was essentially the take that was used
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: for the movie primarily. I don't want to give too
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: much away, but essentially it is about a group of women,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: kind of housewives, normal looking ladies, whatever else, are all
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: gathering for some sort of like weekend retreat with their
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: normal group, planning things, whatever else. what the group actually
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: is is a bit of a surprise, the way things
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: are handled, and it's not what you think. This is
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: not a supernatural sort of thing. This is a very
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: real-world sort of problem here. This is this old lady
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: book club movie I keep seeing in commercials. No, this
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: ain't the old lady book club movie. I don't know.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Which is getting a sequel. Oh, I know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: That's the one they're running ads constantly now. I didn't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: really pay attention to the first one. I forgot that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it was a thing, and now there's a sequel to it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: So again, you find your audience.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Obviously old ladies go to the movie you said well
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: i got a little confused about because gene fonda is
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: in that one too and i'm like football and it's
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: like the same that's what i thought for a second
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: it's like it was a sequel to 80 for brady
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: and i just got books and stuff i don't know
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: back to soft and quiet so um this is a
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: very disturbing movie uh it hangs with you after like
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: it's one of those like very similar kind of like
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: hereditary where like it's a movie that leaves a.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Mark you don't see it coming and then afterwards you're
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: like oh like you still think about it later and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you're like.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah but that really that's about the most i
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: want to say because going to the going into this
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: movie cold uh is imperative for a really good viewing
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: experience yeah i.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Kind of like those that i didn't know anything about
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: beforehand and It changes your outlook after you've seen it.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. But, yeah, like I said, this
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: is not like a slasher movie. This is not a
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: supernatural thing. This is a real-world kind of horror movie. But, damn,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: it's good. Yeah, it will mess with you, for sure.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Another one for the list. Soft and Quiet, currently streaming
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: on Netflix. All right. Are we ready to get into it? Well,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I've got to get my suit on because we're going
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: to space. We'll get to those suits. Get more out
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of life.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Go out to.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: A movie.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I'm going.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: To tell you something. I'm Star-Lord. I formed the Guardians.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Met a girl. Fell in love. That girl died, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: then she came back. Came back a total dick. Oh, please.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: He left out some important information, but that is the
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: gist of it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: My sacred mission is to create a perfect society.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: He didn't want to make things perfect. He just hated
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: things the way they are. I want you all to
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: know that I'm grateful to fight this side, my friends.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Incinerate them. We were always searching for a family until
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: we found each other. Are you ready for one last ride?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: We'll all fly away together into the forever and beautiful sky.
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: When you were here before Couldn't look you in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: eye You're just like an angel Your skin makes me cry.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: You float like a feather.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: In a beautiful.
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: World And wish I was special You're so very special And.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I'm a creep I'm a widow What.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: The hell am I.
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: I don't belong here.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: This episode's out-of-the-town feature is Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: The year is 2023. The director, thankfully, James Gunn. And
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: the plot, according to IMDb.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Still reeling from the loss of Gamora, Peter Quill rallies
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: his team to defend.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: The universe and one of their own. A mission that
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: could mean the end of the Guardians if not successful. Eh,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I guess. That's not a great description.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's specific in a couple of things and misses
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of others. But either way, spoiler alert, we're
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: going to run the hell out of this.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: So, I'm assuming you went and saw it in the theater.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: If not, go watch it. That's kind of important. Or
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: you're going to pirate it or something. I don't recommend
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: doing that. I mean, I did.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Just when getting stuff together for this, I saw somebody
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: had clips from it pieced together on a YouTube and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: like It was straight up in a theater. Like, it
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: was their cell phone on the theater. But it was like,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I guess they were going to get busted if they
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: had their hand up doing the whole movie. So it's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: just little moments here and there. I was like, no,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that's legitimately from the movie I just watched. But, yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: this is just open air video at the screen. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: was like, this is weird. I didn't know people still
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: did this. So, yeah, there's some weird pirated version out
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: there somewhere.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I don't endorse that at all.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: No.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Though I do on occasion miss seeing dudes in
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: the theaters with a video camera.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Watching a movie at home and see somebody's head bob
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: by as they go to get popcorn. Alright, so as usual,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: every new Marvel movie gets a new opening. So now
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: we get the exclusive Guardians Marvel letters spinning by and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: very key moments.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Of, look at this, look at this, this might come
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: into play later. So, That's how we start off. We
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: get our little special Guardians Marvel logo. Yeah, and of
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: course this is definitely the last ride for this particular team.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Bradley Cooper is wanting to move on and basically just
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: direct films and stuff like that. He wants to do
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: his own thing. Dave Bautista said he's kind of done.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Zoe Saldana said she's done. Chris Pratt says he's done,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: but also would be open to returning. We'll get to
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: that later. We'll get to that at the end of
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: this scenario. Yeah, so there's a lot of, you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: potential doorways still open, but some are closed or whatever else.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I think they did a good job of wrapping up
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: everybody's storylines as well. We didn't leave too many holes
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. Not to jump too far ahead,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: but we really didn't close any door.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: Like, we.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: We rearrange things a good amount, but then at the end,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it's like, well.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Anything they want to bring back, they can bring back.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Pretty much, yeah. They can do whatever.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: They want from this point, but they gave it a
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: nice cap off, and everybody can do their own thing,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: or if we want.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: To make use of you, we can make use of you.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: They found a good way to do it. In the
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: comic book world, this is kind of closing the door,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: because basically you've got certain members who left, certain members
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: who kind of retired. you know sort of thing like
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: that and then one in particular went home yeah uh
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: so yeah the group is broken up and now we've
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: got a new team uh you know because we get
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: a couple little cut scenes we see it we'll talk
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: about that again uh but yeah so we we get
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: this is definitely a door closing but a new one's
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: kind of opening so that's kind of literally how comics
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: work it's like yeah it's like Okay, you know, it's like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: spoiler alert, we did not kill anybody off. Surprisingly. I
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: assumed we were.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Going to take out at least one, if not a
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: couple of people, just because they were so, this is.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: The final episode. I kind of did too, but at
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: the same time, I'm like, there's also room for at
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: least more than half the teams. still be kept. Yeah,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: and I didn't want it. In fact, I was kind
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: of worried at moments that we can get to later.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: But as far as the retiring thing, I just want
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to point out, not even comic book wise, in the MCU...
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Hawkeye's retired 15 times. So, you know, if they want to,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: they can bring anybody back. Sure. It's good to have
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: that door just cracked a little bit. But this movie
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: is interesting because we basically get a Rocket Raccoon origin
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: story in its entirety. And that's kind of what kicks
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: things off. Yeah. And I've seen these PSAs already online.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: But yeah, if you are an animal lover or parent...
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: this movie hits hard on multiple... Or animal rights person.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: It is a lot of... Like, rougher than I expected, really.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And I, again, I guess just because I like animals
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: so much more than people.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Then I was just like, yeah, this stuff is hitting
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: more than I expected, really.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Well, it's hitting because we have sympathy towards the animals,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: and then, of course, the actors who are playing the
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: voices for these, you know, basically humanoid animal characters... do
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: a really good job, so we didn't attach them really quickly. Well,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: that's the thing.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It's like you already have sympathy for animals because they're animals,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: but then on top of that, we've given them all personalities.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Like, we're making them characters, not just animals now. So
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it's like double layered of like, oh, God, stop. Just stop. Yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: So it has some scary moments. Usually it's okay if
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: you're not a mutant animal. If you're a regular animal,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: you're okay, but... If you're a mutant animal, it doesn't
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: go so well for you. Well, I don't know. See,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: if you're a regular animal, you're going to become a
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: mutant animal later on. I mean, that's the thing.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Probably.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: If you're locked up in the High Evolutionary's ship, your
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: life is going to suck. Those people, but not to
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: jump ahead. But again, the ones scampering at the end,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: they're okay. Everybody else that got tested on, not so good.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And before we go too much into opening things up,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Chuck Woody, a Ouiju, I think that's how you pronounce
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: his name, a Hulk, but anyway, absolutely loved this guy
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: as a high evolutionary.
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Probably, I mean, even going so far as saying how
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: good of a performance Jonathan Majors gave, I would say
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: this guy probably is going to go down as probably
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: a Thanos-level villain of like, I fucking hate this guy.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: See, that was my thing. I was on the fence
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, on the one hand, you hate this character.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But he's also like, doing a performance that isn't crazy
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: over the top movie villain like just an asshole like
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you just hate him and then by the end you're
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: like oh well.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: He's done not just horrible.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Things to this one character like horrible things to mass
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: amounts of characters over and over and over again and
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: like so yeah he's killed a ton of people in
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the you know grand universe version of it but at
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the same time he doesn't ring to me as like
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: a grand thanos type you know villain i won't think
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: of him as like a big villain if i go
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: back and pick.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: Oh cool marvel villains like i feel like he'll be
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: forgotten for me but i i think it's almost like
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: he's doing such a good performance it doesn't come off
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: as for someone who.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Has their face strapped on it doesn't come off as
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: cartoony and silly as you would expect like he really
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: is just kind of a bastard and like you hate
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: him But again, it doesn't.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Come off as a crazy, over-the-top comic book kind of villain.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: He's just a hassle. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: The high evolutionary of the comic, that's the thing. They
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: didn't have to change too much about this guy. That's
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: really all he's about. He basically, you know, he can
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: make things better. Whatever, you know, the deal is, I
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: can improve it. I can change it, whatever else. So that's,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: you know, creating a counter-earth. Whatever else, that's always what
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: he's been about. Yeah. I like the element of basically
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: seeing his face because in the comics, he's always wearing
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: this helmet that kind of has like his face imprinted
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: in the helmet. But basically, you're always just seeing a mask.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: You're never seeing the person's face. A mixture of Cobra
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Commander and Destro. Yeah. But it's kind of the same thing, though,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: you know. we see in the film, like, he is
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: always wearing a mask, and, you know, there's a point where...
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: There's a reason, and I like that being the reason.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, good, because I wanted that. Mm-hmm. But, yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: even though this is kind of a one-and-done villain, yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: he is... It's such a good performance that I think
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: this will stand a test of time amongst some of
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the other villains. We're going to remember this performance.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Well, and then also, whether or not they find a
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: way to bring him back, physically like i think the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: effects of all the things that he's done can now
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: be traced down the line because we're already seeing like
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: oh well that's why this was here last movie because
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: he was pulling the strings and already doing these things
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and like i feel like they can also use that
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: moving forward and be like oh well what you don't
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: know is this is one of those people he created
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and this is a thing and here's another person and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: so you can tie that into so many things and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: even though he might not be around anymore his after-lasting
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: effects will still be something they.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Can pull from if they want to. Absolutely, yeah, because
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: we do find out that he's responsible for multiple races.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Of course, we know the Sovereign from the last Guardians film,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: the Gold People, and then the Tees. Basically, Aisha is
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: going to create, you know, the perfect specimen, and she
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: will name him Adam. And we say, okay, we know
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Adam Warlock's Tees, and then we have to wait... really
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: long time. Like six years. To finally get Will Poulter
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: in the role. And then you realize, Adam's a dumbass.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: But see, that's the thing. That's really the thing I
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: like because Adam Warlock is a character that had a
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: huge evolution over his tenure in the Marvel Universe. So
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I did not want him to come out the... God
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: that he is. Basically, the cosmically aware, you know, very
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: much almost like a deity sort of thing. The superpowers
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: have always kind of been there, but basically the maturity
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: and the cosmic awareness and basically the, you know, I'm
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: here to make a real difference in things sort of stuff,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: that all comes later. So now he's just a babe
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: in the woods learning how to operate in the world
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: and But he also is extremely super powerful.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: It's funny, watching it, I was going, I wonder what
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: you're going to think about this. Because normally I don't
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: factor that in, but knowing what little I know about him,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: how big a deal he's supposed to be comic-wise, normally I.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Don't factor the comic stuff in. I try to just
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: watch the MCU as the MCU.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: But that one, I'm like, I know what a big
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: character he could have been in a different version of
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: this story. And then seeing what a silly idiot he
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: is in this movie. I'm just like, I wasn't sure
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: how comic fans were.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Going to take this.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, it does, looking at it in the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: big picture, it does make sense that, especially if they
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: took him out.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Early, if he didn't finish cooking, then.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: He would be a little off and wouldn't know what
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the hell was going on.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: But he's still.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Almost dangerously powerful for somebody who doesn't know what the
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: hell they're doing.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: So, it does make sense.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: But it is, within the context of just this movie,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: he also, until we get to the very end, doesn't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: accomplish anything at best he just screws stuff.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Up for him over and over again and it's frustrating
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: so before.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: You get to the big finale you're just like why
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: is he even in this yeah he's pretty he's very
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: childlike yeah.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: He's frustrating through most of the movie.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah by the end you're like okay well i guess
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: i'm glad we went along for that ride if we're
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: going somewhere with this so by the end i'm like
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: all right well at least he's sort of.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Proven he wants to be something useful So now it
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: gives him a chance to. But yeah, throughout this movie,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: he's just annoying more than anything. And the thing is,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: we kind of see the journey that Adam goes through
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: in this. Basically, he's a complete babe in the woods.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: He's a golden god. He's worshipped by his mother. And
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: he knows, okay, this high evolutionary guy is the big boss.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: So don't screw with him. Don't make him mad. That's
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: the only one I listen to, basically. Mom and this guy. Yeah.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: But then, essentially, he has to go through... experience and
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: to personally experience moments of pain and sadness to begin
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: his growth. And that's kind of the message this whole
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: movie is giving us. Rocket goes through extreme amounts of
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: pain and sadness in his origin and throughout his entire
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: life to get to the point where he is now.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Peter goes through a lot of sadness, because basically his
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: girlfriend dies, then she gets resurrected, but it's not his
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: girlfriend anymore. He's forced to look.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: At someone who looks like her, but it's not her,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't know him, so it's almost more tormenting him.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: It really is. This girl who's kind of.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Almost like my girlfriend, but she doesn't even like me,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: and we don't have any history now.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It is almost torture more than... Anything, really. Yeah, so
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of pain that goes through this movie
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: that causes growth. Can I bring up my maybe favorite one?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously my go-to is Rocket, but Nebula's so much... Mm-hmm. Like,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: brings so much to this in general. Like, she's taking
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: a weird turn.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: But at the same time is almost like one of
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the most impressive characters we have in this, in.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Which she's barely human anymore. She's had so many replacements. But, like,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: she's still got such a journey of.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: That she's gone on, not just through these Guardians movies,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: but even just in these last several years of watching
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and talk about pain. And, like, someone who was just
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: tortured for the sake of it because he could, you know.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So that is who she is, essentially. And then on
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: top of that, her trying to, like, build a life.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And, like, surprisingly. finding friends and what becomes a family
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: you know it's.
• 49:23
  Speaker 11: Like i don't know i was really kind of taken
• 49:25
  Speaker 11: with her as a as a character.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Almost almost as much as rocket and kind of seeing
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: how much.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: They bonded over these last years is like kind of
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: cool because they're they.
• 49:35
  Speaker 12: Had a weird relationship that nobody else had on the
• 49:38
  Speaker 12: team like that's really the only ones that were around
• 49:40
  Speaker 12: for five years together so it's like they had a
• 49:43
  Speaker 12: friendship that's kind of stronger than the rest of them
• 49:46
  Speaker 12: because they're all dead essentially.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah it's like i really like the little dynamic
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: we don't get much of it but i really liked
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: having her there she didn't just get angry or anything Like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: she kind of got over that, like, for the Avengers movies. Like,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: it seemed like she calmed down a little bit, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: she was just sort of making peace with, yeah, I'm
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: stuck with all these idiots, but this is, you know,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: these are my friends.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: So she got a little better.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if it's just having Gamora back
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: that pisses her off, but, like, she's just angry again
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: in this movie.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think there was, you had to deal with
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: the fact that, okay, you know, my torturous, evil, demented father,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: you know, did get killed, and then he comes back
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: and almost destroys the world a second time. Using me.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Using me. Using me, essentially. One version. And then, you know, yeah,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: my sister gets killed, and then she comes back, but
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: it's not the same sister, so she doesn't have the
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: same journey that we know. Again, what bond we had
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: is gone.
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: She's the old version that we hated each other, so
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: what little they made up and become.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Sisters was kind of gone for the most part.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: So, yeah. So, yeah, you're right. So, yeah, she's gone
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: through so much. And I think, like, the biggest, because
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: you kind of get.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Early on.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: You kind of feel her turning, and, like, she's accepting
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: the family. But then, of course, you know, the majority
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: of this movie, Rocket is basically laid out. So we're getting...
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: And I liked how we're getting his origin story with
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: him kind of almost, like, replaying it in his head,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: where he's in his coma. I liked it structurally. Like,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I was impressed with it. But at the same time,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I kind of missed not having him with the team
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: the whole... Like, it was... A double-edged sword there. I
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: was like, I love getting his origin story, but at
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: the same time, I missed the last movie and the
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: one before where we got him being cool with the
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: team the whole movie. So it's like we're kind of
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: missing that three-fourths of this movie.
• 51:34
  Speaker 13: But I think we make up for it with the
• 51:36
  Speaker 13: origin story because I love seeing the origin story.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: But I think that works because when he's out of
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: the coma and he's back and he has this big
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: triumphant moment... it works great because you're missing him throughout
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: the whole movie. And then you see all the shit
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: he had to go through, you know, to get to
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: this point. It's like, so that's a great, I think
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: they did a really good job of making it a
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: triumphant moment. Well, and you see how essential he is,
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: which is interesting.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Moving forward because it is the point that James Gunn
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: has always made. And I kind of thought that really,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: it was like, because there was that little dynamic of, well,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: who's in charge of this dumb team?
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Peter thought he was, but we all know Peter's kind
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: of an idiot too. So it's like, really, this whole
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: thing is Rocket's story. Like, Rocket is essentially the main character.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: And to me, that is the point made is he
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: wasn't there. Like, Peter's gone. Like, Peter gets snapped and killed.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: So it's not his journey anymore. It's like the only
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: other one that's there through this whole story arc.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Is Rocket, and they're following Rocket through those two moves, well,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: one and a half that Peter's not really in, and, like,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: continuing on through this one, it's like, he's essentially our
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: go-to character, and the one that always kind of fixes everything, again,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Peter just sort of fumbles and occasionally.
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: Comes out ahead, but, like, Rocket is smart and fixes
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: things for them every step of the way, so he
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: is kind of our go-to leader of the Guardians, whether
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: they want to argue.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: About who it is or not, like, Rockets are.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Again, I've been super attached to him since that first movie.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: More so than I expected. It's amazing what they get
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: from him. Considering he's a guy in a suit on
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: the set. He's a whole bunch of people doing CG
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: after the fact. It's an entirely different voice actor in
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: a booth somewhere months later probably.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: So it's like it's such a conglomeration of people and
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: talent to bring this to us. But as the character
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: goes like I'm so taken with him.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Like, again, it's like, as much as I like the
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: other characters and they're fun, he was always the heart
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: of the story. And so I was way more, even
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: from that first movie, like, invested in how much pain
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: he was carrying around. And so you definitely see where
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: it comes from in this movie, because it's like, it
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: is a hell of a story.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. And, you know, going back to the
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: point I was making earlier about Nebula, is that, yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: when basically Rocket is out of his coma, And, you know,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: she realizes for the first time. She has a moment
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: where she breaks down. You've never seen that.
• 54:07
  Speaker 14: Oh, my God.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: She's crying. I mean, even when her sister died, she
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: wasn't that upset. Like, it's a different connection with him.
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: It's, yeah. But, again, that was my point.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: It was like, you see how much we're missing him,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: even the audience, when he's out of commission.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: And as the team comes back together, everything clicks. And
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: you watch them. Come back together as teamwork every step
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: of the way. And the two big.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Fight scenes are nothing but a conglomeration of everybody fighting
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: together because the gang's back together.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: It works because they're all there. And, like, Rocket is
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: the key to all of that. Yeah. And see, like,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Rocket has, you know, this is basically Rocket's movie second
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: only to basically Nebula. Yeah. When it comes to... growth
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: of the character. Drax does get some growth as well.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: He has some good moments there. Mantis also gets a
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: bit of growth. She's got a lot of screen time.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: And I like that because, again, she's always been there
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: to be sort of a punchline for stuff along the way.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: And she's only been there since the second.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Movie, but there's been so many other than the Guardians movies,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: she's been there for all the other places that they've
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: turned up. So it's like, she's finally kind of getting
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: enough time to give her, like, a fully realized character.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I think we get a lot more from her in
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: this movie than we really have anywhere else.
• 55:24
  Speaker 11: Other than maybe the holiday special, which, again, is a
• 55:27
  Speaker 11: little sillier version of her.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I was kind of surprised how much screen
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: time she got in this and does sort of become
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: more of a real character.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: And you see her powers and her abilities become much
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: more effective. Yeah. Because, you know, we already know that
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: she's a hand-to-hand combat, you know, martial art kind of
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: fighter or that way. but her, I guess, emotion abilities
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: comes much more into play in some very useful ways. Well,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: and her learning how to use it.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, I guess she always had it,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: but on the planet, what the hell would she ever
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: use it for?
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Like, she lived with a god who changed whatever he wanted,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: so it's like, you didn't need to use those powers.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: But now, all of a sudden, you can use them
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: in the middle of a fist fight, and it changes
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the whole scenario.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: It's great to get the one early on scene where
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: she's fighting with some guards, and she basically... Laps on
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: the back of some lady. And it's making this poor woman...
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, granted, she's a guard on the opposite side.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: But she's making this poor woman go through, like, four
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: different emotions just to take out guards. And it's like,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: you know, like, Blinding Rage! And she's like, you know,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: just goes off with the guns and just killing everybody.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: It's not as good as you're a kitty cat. Yeah,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: you're a kitty cat. The most useful in any fight.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: You're a kitty cat. But then, of course, we get, like,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: the big... slug giant monsters with the, you know, the
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: base of the walking sarlacc pits. Yeah. You know, we
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: get those, that trio of monsters and then she basically
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: tames them because like, oh, they're, they're just scared but
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: they don't eat people, they eat batteries.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're also victims of our villain here. Like, they're
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: also creatures that much like Rocket and every other animal
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: there has just been created to, because he's a bastard
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: and he can.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: So it's like, They weren't trying to be evil. They
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: were just stuck there like the rest of the animals. So, yeah.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: And I was kind of glad they got a good...
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: you know, send off too.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: And of course, so we get, you know, we jumped
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: to the end for Mantis's character and she leaves the
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: team to kind of go on a journey of self-discovery. Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: So she's going off by herself. Even Drax offers to go.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: She's like, no, no, no. I want to go by
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: myself and do my thing, but I got these three
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: giant things to roll with me here. That's definitely been
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: a weird thing they were playing with these last, since
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: the end of the second movie.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe they were toying with it, but definitely in the
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: other movie that they're in before they get taken out.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: And then the.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Holiday special, definitely there's, like, a dynamic of, like, well,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: are they trying to be, like, a couple?
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Or neither of them really know how to do that
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: as a normal person, like Drax has, but it's so weird.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: I don't see them anything as romantic. I'd see it
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: totally as a father-daughter.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe, because as we find out, that's what Drax needs
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: to be, whether even he realizes it.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: That's... who he was supposed to be. And for Nebula
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: to point out the fact that he basically, that Drax
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: was basically born to be a dad.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, she knows what a bad dad is,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: so she now can recognize, you know what?
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: You're actually a really good dad, so. And apparently Drax
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: knows multiple languages, too, so he didn't know this, and
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, okay. We all have that.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Moment, because everybody on the team, outside of, you know, like, Rocket,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Rocket was always the smart one of the bunch, everybody
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: else are kind of, like, or isn't, but... She's also, like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: pretty self-centered in the early incarnations of her.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: But, like, the rest of them are all just kind
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: of morons. Peter in particular.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: But Drax is so, like, weird, closed-minded, literal, everything he does,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: so he comes.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Off like an idiot.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Mantis is always, like, not dumb, but she's so uneducated
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: about everything.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: She's very childlike. Yeah, she's very childlike.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: So she's ignorant in ways because she hadn't been off
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: that planet her whole life.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Groot is just Goofy Groot, so it's like everybody
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: else on the team is kind of morons.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: It makes it more fun when you've got somebody like
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Rocket who points it.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Out all the time.
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: But also because you get that, like, we start to
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: see growth in them.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: We do see Drax becoming a dad and more of
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: a person in general you see mantis like figuring out
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: that like you know i just do what you guys
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: say and like she also is pretty angry throughout.
• 59:19
  Speaker 12: This movie because she's coming to terms with that she's
• 59:23
  Speaker 12: like why am i listening to you people like you're
• 59:25
  Speaker 12: all idiots.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah So, yeah, it's kind of fun to get these
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: characters that seem just sort of basically dumb and be like, well,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: they're not. They're just experiencing more now and you're finding what.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Their strengths are and finding out even they're figuring out
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: what they need to be doing.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She makes a reference, you know, like, you know,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: when she was on Ego's planet, you know, she didn't,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: you know, like you said, she didn't get a chance
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: to use her powers and develop and learn all this
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: sort of thing, experience all this stuff. Even Peter, early
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: on in the movie, admits the mistake he made with
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: punching Thanos in the video.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Surprisingly, because that's the reason I've been pissed at him
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: for years now.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, everybody else had their plan together. You suck, Peter.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: It's like, you ruined everything.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't for a reason, but you
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: still suck.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Like, it pissed me off. And I like all he
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: makes you say. He's like, well, I kind of lost
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: my temper a bunch. I was like, you kind of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: lost your temper.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: But I also like that's more than I expected out
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: of him.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: He's always sort of like, no, I got this.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: But I was just like, hmm, even that's growth for
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: him that he's willing to admit that he did something wrong.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: He was an idiot, so. Yeah, but the movie starts off,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: like I say, in kind of a dark.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Tone, too.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because you start off with a little bit of
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Rocket's story that's not nice. Baby raccoon versions, which are
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: adorable and then makes it twice as frightening when the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: giant hand's coming from. Like, oh, God, don't hurt baby raccoons. Yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: And the whole movie, you can have that mode.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: No, God, don't. No, stop.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, Peter is in this pathetic drunken
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: stupor for the first, you know, chunk of the movie.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: You know, before things kind of start getting rolling. You know,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: and then, of course, basically we get, you know, we
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: introduce Adam Warlock. He injures Rocket to the point where
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Rocket is in a coma. And then you're like, oh, shit.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, what are we doing here? So,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: but our whole thing is basically to kind of get
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: us to there as if Rocket's injured. He has a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: device on his heart that basically is kind of a
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: kill switch. It's basically a kill switch because it's proprietary technology.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: You know, to the high evolutionary. Him being an asshole.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: This is my property. I don't want anybody messing with it.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I'd rather destroy it than have my technology get out
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: to someone else.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then we go to, and I love to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: because James Gunn is very much a family kind of
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: guy with his crew of people, with the actors he
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: likes working with. So he likes bringing in his friends.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: So we get a little flash of Michael Rooker at
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: the end of the movie. A Yondu Obi-Wan sort of moment.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 15: Stretch out with your feelings. Use the arrow. We get
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 15: Nathan Fillion finally in a Marvel movie. He'd been teased
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 15: a couple of times. There was a little voice work
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 15: that first one. And he was like, In the background
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 15: in the second one. So, yeah, it's like they figured
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 15: out ways to tease with him. But full on, not
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 15: even in makeup.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Just the rookie in a weird bodysuit in the whole movie.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's just straight up Nathan Fillion hanging
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: out here. And I love it, too, because I've got
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: to do my research. I don't remember this corporation in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: the MCU. Essentially, they're a subsidiary of the High Evolutionary,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: his group. But basically, everything is bio-organic. So it looks
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: like everybody's wearing, like, meaty muscle suits. And that's what
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: I was like, as we got into that part of it,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I was just.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, they maybe could have given Multiverse of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Madness to James Gunn, because this is equally as twisted
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: as the shit that was going on there. And this
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: is technically a normal, normal universe kind.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Of going on. But I was like, this is a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: weird section of this movie right now, so.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, I am enjoying it, but it is
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: very visceral and gross in the best possible way.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So that is goofy shit. But yeah, I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: love that. And then, of course, we get a little
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: bit of a mini Peacemaker reunion, too, because, of course,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: you know, Chuck Woody played a major role in that.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: And then Jennifer Holland has a little bit of, you know,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: basically we got Mrs. James Gunn for a little cameo
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: role there. So it's like, oh, we've got a little
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: peacemaker reunion here. Well, then you get Suicide Squad, because
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: we've got Ratcatcher 2. Yeah, that's true. As an alien.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Because I kept going, man, she's familiar. Why do I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: know her? Why does she look so damn familiar? Well,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: and Sean Gunn, of course, who plays Kraglin, also was
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: the weasel.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: And actually, he's also the stand-in for Rocket. He should be.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: I know they credited somebody else in IMDb now. So
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: I guess when he's doing his part, they've got another
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: stand-in version, maybe. But yeah, I was like, from the beginning,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: he was always that. And even Kranglin gets a growth moment, too.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: He finally learns to use that damn arrow.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because he was trying to focus on the whistle.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: It's all about the harp. Use your harp, boy! Use
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: your harp, boy! The touching moments with Michael Berg. It
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: really is, yeah. It's hard to get those, because he's crazy.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: But he's got them. Yeah, and I love, you know,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: of course, you get this ragtag group of people that
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: all live on nowhere now. I like that little scenario.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe because we're coming off the holiday special, it's the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: last thing we saw, but we've got that little town
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: built in there now, and it's so quaint in its
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: own weird, messed up way. It's such a nice little
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: homey place that I'm like, I just want to hang
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: out here. Can we get a Nowhere series where we
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: just see regular day-to-day shit going on there?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Because it's kind of fun. I would agree with that.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: We've seen a little bit of that in the comics anyway.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Even with the jeweler guy from the first Guardians movie
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: that Peter gets the Infinity Stone from. Yeah. You know,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: the little glass, you know, trinkets that y'all do like.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: That guy lives in nowhere now. The fact that I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: thought he was dead.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Look at all he's revived.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Good for him. He can play cards now. We flesh
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: out Cosmo a little bit more. We get to see her,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: you know, telekinetic abilities. That I was so happy with.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 16: Like, because again, I like just the cute add-on at
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 16: the post-credits, you know. But after that, especially in this movie,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 16: as it went on, I was like, oh, this isn't
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 16: by accident.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Like, this is because... We're basically telling the Laika story.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why she's a female voice. That's why she's,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: you know, a girl dog is because they're tying it.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: It's James Gunn doing a little tribute to the Russian
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: dogs that they fired into space with not a chance
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: of them coming back. And like, so once again, I'm like,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: how is this any different than what our villain's doing here?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: They're just experimenting on animals and knowing when they're done
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: with them, they're going to kill them.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 17: That's exactly what this guy's doing. I was like, this isn't,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 17: I mean, this is obviously a parallel character that he's
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 17: worked in. And, and I really like that. They're like,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 17: she's not only just like really important.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: And as we find out kind of strong as a,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: as a.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Powerful character, but still kind of fun and goofy. And,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: and the fact that before I thought maybe she was
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: like suspended animation and like stolen from that.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Time and kept there. But the fact that she's just
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: been wearing that suit all these years. Yes. I was like,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: that is crazy. But also the suit allows her to speak.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: But I love too that like, okay, so she speaks
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: in broken English because she is a Russian dog. So
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: which means she's bilingual because she obviously speaks Russian as
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: her native tongue. But she also still has dog-like qualities. Like, basically,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: when Kraglin says she's a bad dog, in the whole movie,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: she's taken this personally. But it's not so much like...
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: It's like, I'm mad at you. It's like, I don't
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: want to be a bad dog. I want you to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: like me. I know I'm a good dog. You don't
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: say that. And that's how a dog is. Dogs don't
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: get pissed.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: They want you.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: To like them.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: That's why I really, yeah, I was so glad to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: have that added character this time.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Because it could have just been a one-off and like,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: that's the joke and whatever. But there's so much more
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: going on there once you get it. I mean, everybody
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: in this whole series, but specifically this movie, is nothing but...
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: twisted horrible backstory.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Like every one of them like that's that's the key
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: to guardians of the galaxy is.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: They're all just horrible backstories and a broken bunch of
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: people that come together to form this family and you
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: know cosmos and she's just such a good addition to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: that like i.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Think she factors in and i'm kind of glad not
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: to jump to the end but we're going to be
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: getting more.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: At least in the context of where that story is
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: going she gets.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 11: To stay on and be part of it and i
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 11: really like that so well i Gunn's idea for the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 11: Guardians of the Galaxy and a lot of what he's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 11: taken from has been from kind of the late 90s,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 11: early 2000s run.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: That Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning did, where they basically
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: kind of, the Guardians have kind of been a little
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: bit obscure. There was a different team that was in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: the 70s and then kind of they were resurrected a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: little bit in the early 90s, went away, and then
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: now this new team of other cosmic heroes, some of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: the older members of the Guardians, some kind of different Like, Star-Lord,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: at the time they resurrected him for the Guardians, had
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: been an obscure character for the last almost 20 years. Like,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: he was made in the 70s, weird character, didn't really
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: do anything with him, and they kind of just forgot
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: about him. But, like, the uniforms that we see, like
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: the dark blue, like, kind of big leather stuff, that
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: comes from that run. Cosmo comes from that run. Nowhere
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: comes from that run. So, all of a sudden, it
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: would be like, you know, That's the great thing. Cosmo
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: is pretty much Cosmo. That's a perfect translation there. I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: love when the Guardians basically take over Nowhere. They make
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: Nowhere mobile, which was a new adjustment. That was cool.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming until it came flying up.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, this is useful. And the giant
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: four-stage cannon.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay. So we've now turned basically a hand
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: of a dead celestial that was just a base of
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: operations is now a mobile base of operations with weaponry.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: It's a massive ship that you can go kick somebody's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: ass if need be.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, excellent stuff. I like that, you know, Kraglin's
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: kind of staying on there. Nebula's going to stay on.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Drax is going to stay on to basically be everybody's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: favorite dad. Yeah. You know, and then, you know, Gamora
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: basically goes back. Like, we see Gamora has basically... been
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: hanging out with the Ravagers. So we get Stallone and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: all the Ravager guys come back. Yeah, they're all back.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Even though we got Stallone, but we couldn't get Miley
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Cyrus to come back to play a voice. Was it
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: they couldn't, or they just wanted, they're like, eh, people
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: like Tara Strong and other stuff, we'll just get her. Yeah,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was fine with Tara. I mean, I
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah. Not that that character has a lot
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: to do anyway, so it's fine.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Much more was the, what's the snake person?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: They're just badass looking. Well, see, here's the snake person. Krugar. Krugar, yeah.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: So in the comics, Krugar is the Sorcerer Supreme of
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: the 31st century. Yeah, a different version. So that's kind
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: of where he shows a little bit magical stuff like that,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: and basically he keeps mute and whatever else. I think
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: it's just the look, though. Because even in the last one,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, I don't know who that is,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: but they're badass.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Most of them, the fact that they.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Get to roll in and do some sling ring in,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, let's hang out some.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: More with Kruger. Yeah, Kruger's pretty cool. Just looks cool. Yeah,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: but it's hilarious because the Starhawk or Stakar is, you know,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Sylvester Stallone's character plays. The Stallone version versus the comic version, very, very, very, very,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: very different.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 18: So I kind of wish they would have somehow worked
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 18: a way in of like, Because basically, in the comics,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 18: Starhawk was initially two beings, because Starhawk had a.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Wife named Alita. And then at one point, their powers were,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: they were injured, there was some kind of walking thing
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: with their powers, and literally these people were merged into
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: the same person, were basically like, sometimes Starhawk was the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: person you saw up front, and then they'd switch out,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: and Alita was the person you'd see up front, and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: they were two different people. That's a weird relationship at
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: that point. It's a very weird relationship. It's kind of
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: like when the other person wasn't being used, they were
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: kind of like almost like in this place of cosmic emptiness.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Like you're just kind of sitting in this waiting room
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: completely by themselves, and it's a vast emptiness. This is
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: not fun for anybody. Exactly. So it kind of had
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: an effect on the character. So it would have been
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: kind of a fun thing to see, like, I don't know,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: some sort of female counterpart that Stallone is... To have
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Talia Shire show up or something like that would have
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: been hilarious. Some of those lines basically switch places with
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: their bodies. I feel like they don't want to do
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: too much with him because you're not going to get
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: him to do a whole movie. You need to keep
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: him to just come in and be kind of a
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: jerk the whole time.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Both times we've seen him now, he just comes in
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: and complains about what they're doing.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: You're not a Ravager. Get out of here. That's his role.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: He did that fine. Gamora ends up being back with
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: the Ravagers. But, yeah, we kind of alluded to this,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: that we get two post-credit scenes here. One of them
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: is basically showing the future New Guardians. The new crew. Yeah,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: because as we leave it here, we're like, you know,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Peter decides, you know what, I haven't been home as
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: an Earth really since I was taken. I mean, granted,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: we had to stop over to help save the world
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: and everything like that, the universe launch, but it's like
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: we really haven't been back home. I haven't seen if
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: I still have any living family members or else. So
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: that's where Peter's journey is going to go. So Rocket's
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: got the team now. It's him. It's Groot. Cosmo's there.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Now we got, you know, this new guy, Adam Warlock,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: besides he's going to stick around because, you know, basically
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: he watched his mother die and he's got his little fuzzy,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: you know, pet, you know, whatever that thing is.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they excel at making cute side characters.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: So it's just become the new thing. I'm like, what
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: are we going to do with this movie? that's got
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: a cute sidekick kind of character.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: So that's what, you know, Disney in general, obviously, because they.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: Do it in Star Wars, too. So it's like, what
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: can we do to make some new cute side characters?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: And he does a good job, because I like that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: weird little thing. But then an interesting thing is, of course,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: when we're on the high evolutionary ship and, you know,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: things blow up and everybody's trying to get out there,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: we find, oh, there's a whole bunch of children there.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: All from the same race. They kind of look like
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: they all came from Village of the Damned. Because everybody's
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: like white-haired little kids and whatever else. But all these
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: children were in cages, basically. So it's like, okay, we've
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: got to get these kids out of here. And then
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Rocket finds a whole bunch of animals. We've got to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: get these guys out of here, too. So we get
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: all those kids out. But one of those kids ends
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: up becoming part of the new team. And so I'm like, okay, well, who's,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: you know, as I wonder with this, so I go
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: and watch the credits and they credit that girl as
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: basically named Phyla. I was like, oh. They're already setting
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: up so many things. Yeah, so basically she's Phyla, and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: later on she becomes Phyla Velas. Basically, she becomes part
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: of the Marvel line, where she gets the cosmic... Oh, Mrs.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Marvel of some sort. Yeah, she basically gets the power
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: of cosmic and becomes a guardian of the universe, while
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: she's also still.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 14: A member of the Guardians of the Galaxy. So, you know,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 14: that's the other thing, too. We didn't talk much about
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 14: Groot yet. Groot's kind of back to being the muscle,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 14: because he's fully grown once again, and he bulks up
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 14: a little more, too, so he's like a.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: He's just a new variation, because he's not technically old Groot.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: He's son of Groot, so he's like a different version,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: and they were saying also that maybe it's because he,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: being the weird plant-type creature he is, Osmosis, like, feeds
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: off of energy, and he was around Star-Lord and Mantis, both.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Of which are from gods, so like.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: whatever, like, ego energy they're putting out, he was potentially.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: Feeding off of.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Possibly, yeah.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I was like, I heard that. I was like, okay,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: that makes sense, but maybe that's why he looks a
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: little different now, too. Well, and the thing about Groot
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: is that he's so versatile that we've seen throughout the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: different films and different things he can do. So we see, like, okay, well,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: he's able to kind of change his mass a little bit,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: you know, when he's growing to basically be much more
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: stockier and bulkier, very much, very thing-like. Right. Also, hey,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: he can hold weapons and stash them.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Stash them and you can't even read them because he's
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: biological on the outside.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: He's a tree.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: So you don't notice those hidden away guns and metal
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: inside of him.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Also, the wings thing. I saw the toy first, like,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Groot has wings? It's like, oh, okay.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: If we're going back even further, I don't know if
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: you get more badass than Nebula with the wings.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: And her new badass arm. Yeah. Like, she was full on, like,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Iron Man mode at that point. It was just like, oh,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: can we keep those on her? Because that's awesome. Yeah,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: I noticed very early on in the movie she had
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: a new arm. I'm like, oh, that new arm can
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: do things. Yeah.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: So I think he took some of the Tony nanotech
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: and Rocket put it on her and went, hey, I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I've got an idea.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: You'll have a really awesome arm now. Oh, I'm sure
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: basically there were other nanotechs around the universe that were
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: even greater than stars. Well, I mean, you didn't hang
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: out with them for five years. That's right, yeah. Tony
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: had some pretty good tech, so if you're going to
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: steal from somebody, you know, go with that. Absolutely, yeah.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so to have this little girl who basically
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: may very well become a new guardian of the universe, like, okay,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: that's big shit. Because that's where.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 19: I was sort of, if they want to tie in,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 19: because if we're... if he created this entire race of people,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 19: if we're sticking with some of the old story was,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 19: isn't she made from DNA from Mar-Vell? So is that
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 19: at some point he goes back and gets a sample
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 19: of her DNA, creates this race from them. And she
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 19: is still technically, you know, created from the DNA of
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 19: Mar-Vell as were these other kids.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: She was just, Like Rocket, she was the special one
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: that came out and has powers, and maybe she's a mutant.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Who knows? They can tie in whatever they want to
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: make up the science now.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: But I thought that was a good way because all
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: of these characters moving forward, you can now go, well,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: he created.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 19: This race, he also created this.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: So everybody comes from something that if they want to,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: they can use that and play that card later.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah. So there's a lot of potential they can
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: go through. Another thing I thought was interesting is there
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: was one cosmic character that technically started out in the
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Avengers in the 80s because she got absorbed into the
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: Guardians group in the same run, and then they kind
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: of fleshed out her character a little bit more to
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: make things fairly interesting. The fact that this character is
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: called Moondragon, and she's human, but she... I saw where
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: they go with her in Arcade here.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: Well, basically, Moondragon is... She's human, but she has some
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: very cosmic-level... mental abilities.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: So, because she was basically taken at an early age
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: and whatever else. But the interesting thing is that in
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: the comics continuity, she's the daughter of Drax. Because Drax
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: is technically human and was changed by Thanos and basically
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: put into this alien body and whatever else. At one point,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Thanos was a jazz musician. He plays the saxophone. I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: can see that. You know, much like his I'm going
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: to go be a farmer life. I can see him
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: being like, you know, I'm going to go try jazz
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Drax is Duke Silver, basically. So,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: but yeah, but anyway, but yeah, so, because I forget
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: what Drax's real name is, but his last name is Douglas,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: and Moondragon's name is Heather Douglas. So they find this
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: out years, years, years later that basically they're father and daughter.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but also Moondragon does get into a romantic
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: relationship with Phyla. Yeah, it's all that down the line
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: when they're grownups, yeah. Yeah, and also an interesting thing, too,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: that Moondragon can do is basically kind of a true
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: form with her abilities that she basically is an actual...
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: So that she occasionally can turn into this very ethereal
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: dragon sort of form. But it's also kind of like a,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: you know, it's hard for her to turn back sort
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: of thing. it's kind of a moment of last resort
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: for her to go into this form mode of like
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: i don't want to have to turn but if i
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: do i can tear up some shit so yeah well
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: it's kind of you need me to because i will
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like basically she would choose to go
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: into what her actual cosmic potential is, but then it's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: hard for her to go back into human form and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: basically step back on the evolutionary scale just to be
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: back with her girlfriend and her buddies.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 20: But that's another one they could kind of do a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 20: version of because now Drax is going to be dad
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 20: to everyone, so she can be adopted daughter, he can
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 20: be one of his favorites in this new little group,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 20: and Again, she's created from who knows what, so she
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 20: could have weird powers too.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: And so they can pick and choose from those white
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: haired kids and be like, okay, who do you want
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: to be upcoming cool superheroes? Well, it's either that or
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: this is a way to bring Dave Bautista back into
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: the Drax role because maybe the Guardians meet Moondragon and
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: then you find out, oh, she is the daughter.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: And so this could, they could even tie into this
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: is the daughter Drax thought was dead. So he's resurrected.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Or some drunken one-off. He spent a lot of time
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: drunk after that, so who knows what next. Possibly, yeah.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: I think it would have a much more emotional resonance
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: if this is the daughter he thought was dead. I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: I felt like that was always such a specific character
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: point for him.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: How much... sadness he carried from losing both.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Of them yeah i don't know in a way it
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: undercuts it by like oh no she's back like in
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: a way they always do that and you're.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Like no no no look we all those characters you
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: thought were dead are back like I don't know.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I kind of liked the finality of it and that
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: giving him basically his character from that point.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: And that's why he was the messed up guy that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: he was, much like all of them. Well, he still
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: would have that emotion, but, you know, you get somewhat
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: of a redemption because the character's back in a bit
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: of a different form. It changes things at least. Yeah,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, your daughter's back, but she's now, you know, 20,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: 30 years older and she's an entire... You kind of
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: missed your dad version.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: So, you know, there's sort of... There's some things they
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: could play with around there if they so chose. This
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: thing is like, this isn't the end of the Guardians.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Just like basically the Infinity War endgame, it's not the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: end of the Avengers. It's just the end of that team.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: Things change quite a bit. Yeah, the Guardians team is.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: We set it up. But even by the end of it,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: it was like, okay, I want to go follow these
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: guys now. I'm already invested in this new crew. Yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: We also left out Kraglin. Don't forget.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Kraglin was also part of the group. And has figured
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: out how to use the arrow finally. Yeah. He used
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: his arm. But, yeah, getting to our final showdown with
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: the High Evolutionary here. Of course, we get a lot
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: of different... We get some fake-out moments because we almost
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: think we lose Rocket. Then we almost think we lose Peter. Totally. Like,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: full in, you thought you were like, well, this is
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: the end of Peter.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: They kind of played all of it because there was, like,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: at least three different characters. I was like, because I
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: also thought we were going to lose Nebula. Like, I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: thought she was going to sacrifice herself to pilot the ship.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: And then it was going to blow up and we'd
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: lose her. But she saved everybody. I'm like. all right,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: if that's what we're going to do, but I really
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: am invested in her lately, so, like, don't do this.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: It also kind of proves, like, it's kind of hard
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: to kill Nebula. Well, that's true. I mean, yeah, we've
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: watched her what would have killed anyone so many times
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: in this movie alone, let alone every other one. Yeah,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: she's had numerous falls and impalements. It would take a lot. But, yeah,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: I guess if you blew up the whole ship, you
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: could pretend like she was dead. But other than that,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: it takes a lot to kill her. She even hilariously
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: gets stabbed by Kraglin's arrow.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just play for a joke at that point. Like,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: she just yanks it out. Oh, it's like straight in
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: the chest. Like, if she were a human, that's a
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: 100% heart shot.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Nebula had a heart. I mean, she does, but it's
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: not right there. It wasn't even strong enough of a
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: shot to pierce the armor. It literally just sticks right
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: in and she just yanks it out. What the hell?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: Come on, guys. Get it together. Yeah, love that. But, yeah,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: they really fake you out on the Star-Lord because, like, okay,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: he's frosting over. We've had that. I was like, how
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: many times is he going to get stuck out in space?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: But then when his face starts blowing up, like, oh, shit.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: You don't want to come back from that, right? I
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: guess you do. But, yeah, at that point, I was like, well,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: I guess we're right. No, I'm sorry. Yeah. That's the
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: one I could get over easy. Exactly.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: I've been pissed at him for years. So I'm like,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: if he kills Darlord, I'll be okay. Yeah, I kind
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: of thought the same thing too. I was like, both
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: the actor and the character I've been so annoyed with
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: for years now, I'm just like, eh, I'll be okay.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: Just make sure Rocket's alright.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Which I thought, that's the third one. I thought, like,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: he's either gonna, like, which, it seemed like a cheat though.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, if we go through this whole movie
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: to save him, and then kill him off anyway.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I was just like, what the hell? So, yeah, but
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: I can almost see, like, if he's, once again, if
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: he's sacrificing.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Himself like i'm gonna stay here and fight the big
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: bad you guys get off the ship and then he
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: ends up getting killed because of that and like all
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: right yeah yes that would suck but i can almost
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: see that and then when he went back to the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: animals i was like is he gonna sacrifice himself just
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: to go save.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: The other animals. I'm like, Jesus, this is too much
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: to deal with. I think at this point, James and
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: the screenwriters knew we'd seen too much animal cruelty already
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: that we needed this moment of redemption where all the
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: animals get off safe. Rocky gets off safe. We kind
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: of need that.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: We watch them murder a lot of mutant animals.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Both in the tubes and the characters we got to know.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, this is a lot to process.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: But then.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, in this scene, we finally get the last
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: key to Rocket's origin. The one that he didn't even know.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: That A, Rocket is in fact a raccoon, and B...
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: He's from Earth. From Earth, like Peter. Little did they
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: know they were both neighbors.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: Planet-wise, anyway. He's a North American raccoon. Both from Earth, yep. So, yeah.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: And then also, he finally does, when he has that
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: moment where he basically blows away the high evolutionary, he
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: calls himself, for the first time, Rocket Raccoon. Because that's been... Title-wise,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: that's been his character the whole time, but he's never
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: acknowledged that. Yeah, he's like, I'm not a raccoon. I'm
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: not a raccoon.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: You know, he wanted to correct people every time they
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: called him the wrong woodland creature, which happens a lot
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: in this movie, maybe more than ever, outside of Thor
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: constantly calling him rabbit.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: But this one, they picked a lot of different ones
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: over the none of it.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: So, that was fun, and now we actually have An
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: answer that even he accepts.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Rocket Raccoon. And I like, too, that, you know,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: we get, you know, of course, we get his big,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: you know, almost death fake out where he's in the
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: white room.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: A very dramatic moment of even Peter.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: I was like, I feel bad for him all of
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: a sudden. Yeah. It takes a lot for me to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: feel for him. And we get to see, you know,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: of course, like, because one of the, probably the toughest
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: scene ever. in the whole movie, is Rocket figures out
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: a way to escape these cages when they're still being
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: held by the High Evolutionary. And he's already said, incinerate
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: them all. So we know they're all going to die
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: if he doesn't do something.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 19: So he finds a way, once again, he's smarter than
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 19: everybody else and figures a way to escape.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: And then... It's in great such Rocket form. He's constantly
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: stealing parts. Because basically, the thing is, what makes him
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: so special is that the High Evolutionary has been working
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: on making animals human-esque sort of thing. Like, where they're
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: humanoid sort of creatures. It's very Island of Dr.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 17: Moreau.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: We haven't even got to the planet. Like, alternate Earth
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: is just 100% Island of Dr.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 13: Moreau.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, which is what James Gunn is, like,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: supposedly really into, I think, Island of Lost Souls, and, like,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: so he did, like, kind of do that as his
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: own little tribute to it.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, that's also, this is right out of
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: the comics. Yeah. Counter-Earth does exist. The animen... are a
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: race of creatures that basically were at one point animals
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: and are turned into humanoid creatures and whatever else. But,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: you know, in the High Revolutionary's kind of experimenting, he's
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: experimenting with cybernetics and machine parts. So basically that's why, like,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: Lila and Floor and Teef's like, okay, you know, it's
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: a walrus in a wheelchair. They're all cyborgs, you know.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: The most human-like is Rocket. He only has attachments, more
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: or less, but he doesn't have mechanical parts like that.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Lila has arms. Yeah, it's a sea otter
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: with robotic arms. Floor is a rabbit that has, like,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: spider legs, which is kind of, you know, disturbing.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Disturbing and can't talk without the mouthpiece thing that is
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: also disturbing.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Like, Floor is pretty messed up.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing she's so innocent and cute and
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: childlike because the character is scary.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: To look at. Yeah, it's like if you would see
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Floor for the first time, you may scream because she
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: kind of looks like an island of misfit toys. You know,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: the creepy scene in Toy Story with all the weird...
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: The little doll head. The weird mangled toys. Yeah. It's
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: that moment. As soon as she speaks, like, oh, that's
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: a cute little bunny. She's the goofiest of the four. Yeah.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so Rocket has basically been stealing parts because
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: the High Evolutionary is basically using him to help him
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: with his experiments. He's asking him questions and Rocket apparently
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: is smart enough to figure things out that he doesn't.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: That's what I like.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 10: He's smarter than our villain. He's like, well, here's your problem, idiot.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 10: He doesn't say that, but I'm like... he just immediately
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 10: looks at it and is like, well, here's the problem,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: because Rocket's that damn smart. And even our super genius
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 10: villain is like.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit, I didn't even think of that. And then,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: of course, that enrages him even further. Basically, this creation
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: figured it out. Surpassed him, essentially, yeah. But still, that's great, though.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: Rocket still had the foresight to like, okay, I'm not
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: acting like I'm planning on bust out of here, but
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: apparently I've been the whole time.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: But just in case, I might need to. Because they
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: still kind of, he was half buying into that, we're
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: all going to leave. and go on a ship and
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: we're going to go to.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: The new world. But obviously there's always a little bit of,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: but I'm going to have a plan B. Because he always...
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: seems to sort of plan for an alternate. Things are
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: going to go to hell. I might need something else.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: And then Rocket hears that, the order that, oh, basically
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: we're all going to get killed. Let's get the hell
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: out of here. And so he basically has all these
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: parts around his cage, builds a device that basically he's
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: able to kind of, you know, fake the key card reader,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: get them out there. So all his friends are out there,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: ready to get the hell out of there. And then
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Lila gets shot by some guards. And then that puts
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Rocket into a rage. So he goes into a fight and,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: fight the guards, takes him out, and then apparently in
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: the firefight, his other two friends are killed. Holy fucking shit.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: This is just... There are some tear-inducing moments in this movie.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: That's one of them, folks. That's the rough one. And
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: that's why, like, because it's our stupid villain, and I'm like, he's.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: At least, like, the only thing you see at that
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: point is how enraged he is, and we at least
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: get to see him take it out on his face.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: And I was like, that's the only thing that almost...
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: helps a little. It's like, it's the reason he's wearing
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: a stupid Robocop face.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Because his face is torn to shreds by a rocket, which,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: once again, I kind of like that. He carried that
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: for the rest of his life because he did rocket rock.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: He deserved to suffer. And that's the thing. In the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: moment we see Rocket attack the Evolutionary, we don't know.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: And then at that last moment, when basically the group
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: at the end is fighting with the Evolutionary, and you
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: see the part where his mask gets off, Gamora takes
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: the rest of it off, and you see, oh yeah,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: he was wearing this rubber mask the whole time, and
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: Rocket didn't just scratch his face, he, like, he looks
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: like a red skull, actually. The face is gone, the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: jaw's partially there, he got fucked up.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Which I heard them say, that's an interesting comparison, because
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: they're both very, let's create a perfect race kind of
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: a movie. villain so not too far off on the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: red skull.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah yeah so rocket messed him up big time
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: of course he gets the pleasure of killing him so
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: yeah well again being the better person he doesn't really.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah we take him out as far as we know
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: again you don't see the body you can always bring
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: him back in the future whatever but for the sake
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: of the series we take him out and he wins
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't stoop to his level and kill him
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: because he's.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: A guardian of the galaxy.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: So that was kind of a nice moment of like,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: even rockets kind of like elevating to.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: Being like, again, I think old rocket probably just would
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: have shot him in the head. But now that he's
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: kind of found his family, he's like, I don't need
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: to be that.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: It's very much like the, the, the Hela kind of
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: fate and, you know, for Ragnarok. It's like, we assume
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: that they see, okay. Yes. Asgard is destroyed. Surtur and
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: Hela are fighting and, And they're both falling on the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: thing and whatever else. So we don't see the bodies.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: We don't see a pop-up of them at the end.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: So later, if we can convince her to do another movie,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: she can come back.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: But for now, she's dead in quotes. Yeah, and it's
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: kind of the same thing with High Evolutionary. He's dead
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: in quotes. We didn't see a body. He didn't make
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: it off the ship either. So who knows? For this movie,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: he's dead. Yes. We win, he's dead.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: Yay.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then kind of going back to Peter's point there,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: so Peter grows up a little bit in this film, too, because,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: you know, we get the send-off of Gamora's going to
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: go back with the Ravagers, and Peter has a conversation
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: with her basically like, you know, there's certain points in
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: the movie where Gamora's with the Guardians, and you almost
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: kind of think, is she going to fall in love
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: with them all over again? she at least turns a corner.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: Because there is that first half of the movie where
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think I care about Gamora anymore.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: To quote Peter, she's a dick.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 7: She just sucks.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: And so being around them that second half of the movie,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: she starts to realize that not just Peter, but they're
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: all kind of good people and why she was there
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: to begin with. And I'd say she sort of regains
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: her humanity, but she's not human. So whatever version of
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: that for her race, She becomes kind of the good
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: version of her that we had in, like, the second movie.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: And that's, you know, we want to see that, but
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: at the same time, it's not the same. Like, again,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have that closeness with her sister. They do
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: the same old head nod. I see you.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: I see you. They grunt at each other. Yeah, they
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: grunt at each other and move on. They're like, yeah,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: you're my sister. I get it.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: But, again, not quite as close as they were before.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Same thing with Peter. She's like, I see why she
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: loved you. I don't necessarily.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: And like, that was, that is an interesting moment because
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: it is like, they're both in a better place because
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Cause Peter was still like stuck.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Like he was never going to be able to move
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: on without just putting that nail in the coffin and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: be like, all right, I guess we're done. So he
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: needed that more than anybody, but I think it helped
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: her too because she got to be that person, but.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: It's not what you got. So I might stay with
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: the Ravagers, but.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: I'm at least more or less who I need to
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: be along the way because she sort of found out.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: Because I do like that there's all those moments when
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: even the final one where they're all like hugging, but
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: she still doesn't join in.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: She's like, she's smiling. She's happy that they're there. But
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: she's like, this isn't my family. This isn't my group.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: But then when you see her rejoin with the Ravagers
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: and Stalker, you know, basically hugs her and says, welcome back.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: They're all like, you know, yeah. Welcome home. This is
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: her family.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: And you see her reactions like, okay, she's formed a
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: bond with the Ravagers.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: That's her family now. So, yeah. So again, it's growth
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: out of people I didn't even think were going to
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: have growth. So I'm surprised, again, points to Jade Gunn.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: The story arcs he takes us on.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: On some silly characters that like turns out to be like, oh,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, he always has heart, but, like, he just followed.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Through on every thread on these. It's, like, it's impressively
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: put together. And then we get, of course, our last
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: scene of, you know, Peter has basically made the decision,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to Earth, see, he's like,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: I had a grandfather, so he's like, but I haven't
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: seen him since I ran out of the room, and
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if he's still alive. I do, like, yeah,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: they die at, like, 50. You're about to die? You're
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: about to die? Yeah. And I feel like Jax is like, hmm, probably.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: Look at him. He's 50. Look at him. He's close enough, yeah.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: So I feel like that little moment leading to it,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: but then you get back to it, and super old
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: man Grandpa's still around.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: He's still around. Not only is he still around, he's
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: got this whole wall of pictures that basically... show that
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: he's still been pining for this grandson that he lost
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: the same time he lost his daughter. Which had to
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: be weird, because at least he knew what happened to
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: the daughter. And then the grandson disappeared. Like abduction of
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: some sort, but you never even find the body. So
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: who knows what the hell happened to Peter? And I
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: assume the woman that answered the door was.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I thought they... credited to her
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: like she was the wife, maybe. Well, so that's the thing.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: They didn't make it clear because she's way younger than
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: he is. So at first I thought it was like
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: a nurse or something. Yeah, a home care person or
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: something like that. So I didn't think... Originally, but then
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: later I was like, I don't know, maybe not. Maybe
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: he just scored him a young wife.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know. He got him a hot young wife.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's a nice living lady, but it's like, shit.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, you're robbing the cradle, sir.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, but you know, so we get Peter
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: reunited with his grandfather. So we get that nice little bit,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: our secondary end credit scene here. We got to wait
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: all the way to the end credits and Pete's at
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: the breakfast table with his grandfather. They're talking about a
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: neighbor who's got a good for nothing son. You know,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: basically he sits on the porch all day and watches
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: his grandfather or watches his own elderly father mow the
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: lawn and he doesn't do it. I love it. But
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: then we get the little tease there that the legendary
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: star Lord will return.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: You skipped over the best part, which is the newspaper
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: that talks about the abduction of Kevin Bacon.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: That's right. That's the best part. I missed that. Yes.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, that's the best tie-in joke
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: right there. Yeah.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: Because, yeah, I mean, I'd listen to Kevin Bacon talk
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: about being abducted by aliens.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that would be in our
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: weekly world news that I'm reading every day.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: But see, here's the funny thing, though, is that we've
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: heard different celebrities talk about being abducted by aliens, and
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: we kind of We blow it off. That could be
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: in the paper and we'd be like, another one of
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: those crazy. I've heard Sandy Hagar numerous times talk about
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: how he was abducted by aliens as a young man.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: It's just funny for us because we were there for
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: that journey. We saw the whole little trip. We did.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: That was a fun little time. The viewing audience believes
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: Kevin Bacon. But then, yes, back to the.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Big message, which, again, if I was like anyone else
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: on there, I'd be like, yay, the return of Rocket
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: and the team and.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: Or we can go follow Mantis around and see what
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: she's like. Anybody else.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Stay with the, like I said, stay with the town.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: I want to see Drax, you know, talking to the
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: kids all day. But, like, the only one I'm like, really?
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: Star Wars?
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Like, why do I want to watch him eat cereal
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: in his future?
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. I was like, what are they doing?
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: Of course, this kind of was almost like a two-fold
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: sort of thing. Because, for one, this answers, because Chris
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Pratt was the one of the actors who was like,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: The most publicly on the fence about, is this the
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: last run? And you can go. Which is why it's annoying. Oh, well,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: this is where we're going to be, right? Yeah, because
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: like Zoe Saldana has said, like, she almost kind of
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: went into this third film bittersweet. Because she had a
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: little bit of like, I was kind of done with it.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: What happened to James Gunn? I killed myself off for
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: a reason.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: That, but also James Gunn initially getting fired by Marvel,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: then rehired. I know, yeah, Drax Batista was like, not
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: going to come back.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, let me out of my contract if you
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: don't have James Gunn running the show.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Zoe Saldana was very much in the same
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: kind of camp too. But I mean, Dave Batista's gone
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: on record as basically saying, Guardians of the Galaxy is
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: launched my career drax started my career as an actor
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: so i've done other movies other stuff yeah so it's
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: like i will forever love this character so but we
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: knew he was hanging drax up for a while i
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: mean will he return to the role.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: Possibly again i feel like you can convince any of
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: them you know they'll give it a few years they
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: might be back maybe their career doesn't go the same
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: way they need to come back who knows like there's
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: tons of reasons you could turn around and Why.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: Don't you just throw a lot of money at them?
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: They'll be like, all right, I'll do a 15-minute thing. Like,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: show up for whatever cameo. Yeah, I mean, right now,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: Batista's doing good. He's in, you know, playing bad guys
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: in Bond movies and Blade Runner and Knock at the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: Door and Glass Onion. He's got a bunch of stuff.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: He's doing good. Yeah, he's all right. Yeah. But so
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: there's kind of this answer to the question, like, will
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: we ever see Chris Pratt in the role again? The
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: answer is yes, apparently. The other thing is that the
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: legendary Star-Lord, that particular run, is when Peter is marooned
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: on Earth. So it's basically Star-Lord without the other Guardians,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: and he has adventures on Earth. Star-Lord-y adventures or a
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: regular guy adventure? Star-Lord-y adventures.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Because I found that it would at least be more
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: interesting to see him dealing with mowing the lawn issues.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: Because we've seen him be a goofball in space. It
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: would be kind of more fun to be like, all right,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: now you're stuck here.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: You don't have any super out-of-this-world powers, so I don't know.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Just deal with eating cereal and mowing the lawn. Well,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: aside from being half a god. He's a half a god. Yeah,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: half a god sort of thing. Yeah, he doesn't have
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: any physical exerted powers, but basically he's known for his
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: different suits and flying devices and then guns. That's what
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. If you take all those away, he's just
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: a guy mowing the lawn. So I'm interested, like, where
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: are they going with this? Yeah, they got a lot
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: of places they could pop up and do with him
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: of basically having some adventures on Earth where he's not
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: in space and kind of learning what the world is
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: like now when he left the 80s. Do you think
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: this is like a limited series Disney Plus or more movies?
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: I feel like it would work better more as a series.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: I do too. I think you'd flesh out more as
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: a series. But also this could be a way to...
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: signifying the fact that basically we've got a couple Avengers
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: movies coming up here in a couple of years. He
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: may pop up in one of those.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Like, everything goes to hell like they're going to because
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: it's the whole reason of having these two movies. And
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: we need everybody we can get together, so let's call
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: Star-Lord out of retirement.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: And he puts the suit on and comes and busts
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: out the guns. And then, of course, the first two
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: of the movies is the Kang Dynasty. The second one
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: is Secret Wars. Secret Wars basically... deals with basically, if
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: they're sticking with the storyline, even though we're not going
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: to have Dr. Doom with it, is that basically there
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: is a multiversal threat going on where we have all
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: these incursions. Earth is the last one to go. Dr.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: Doom saves Earth from being destroyed by these incursions. But
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: what happens is what is assembled is a patchwork Earth
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: made up of multiversal Earths. So it's kind of like,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: you know, It's kind of like when you would go
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: to the soda fountain and get the suicide where you
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: got all the flavors of soda in one cup. That's
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: what our earth is. It's a suicide earth here. So...
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: And so we get all these different versions of characters
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: we know, but it's not our version. So will we
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: see a different Star-Lord than that? Possibly. Again, they've given
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: themselves a way to continue it and an out to
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: do whatever the hell they want all at.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: The same time.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: Exactly. And it also answers your question. It answers your question, like,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: is Chris Pratt 100% down to roll? No, he's not.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: Do we want to see him in other stuff?
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: Eh.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: How much Jurassic Worlds can we take?
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: I think we've seen enough of them there, too. So
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: let's Let's retire a lot of Chris Pratt. We get
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: maybe too much of him for a while. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: they're going to take a break from him, obviously. Like you,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: I would also like to see the other Guardians team
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: do some stuff.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would much rather see any of those other teams.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: They're all kind of way more interesting characters, and even
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: as we left them, they're all.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: kind of going different places that I'd like to follow.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: So I'd pick up with any of them. And it's
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: an even stranger team, because you've got Rocket, who's leading them.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: Groot's still there, so you've got a little bit of muscle.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: You've got Adam Warlock, who's major muscle, but he's also
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: learning how things work. You have a literal child on
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: the team. And then you have a former Ravager, who
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: just recently figured out how to work the weapon that
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: was passed down to him. So you've got a very interesting...
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: much more ragtag band of misfits than you even had
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: with the original Guardians. Yeah. See, again, I want to
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: watch those adventures. Yeah, yeah. With them, I want a
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: good series.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: Let me watch the different, every episode, they go to
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: a different planet, solve a different thing.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: Like, I'd be all for that. Yeah, I'd be down
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: with that. But, yeah, I've seen a lot of, you know,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: really good reviews for this film and basically people saying, oh, yeah,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: this is definitely one of the better films of this phase.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: And I would agree. What strikes me is that people
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: who don't have a reaction like oh this is a
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: really solid film or just kind of like they kind
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: of was like yeah i'm like what is.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: Wrong with you what i noticed in the real world
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: was coming i once i got up and left the
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: theater and looked around i was.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: Like these are all like parents.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: Like my parents like it was like not a bunch
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: of dorky like white guys it was.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: Like grown up old parents and different women.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: And like, again, there was like a several like women
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: in like their sixties that were even in front of me.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: And the couple next to me was like, just not
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: your normal, like comic book people.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: I was just like, this pulled in a lot of
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: different people.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's just because everybody eventually
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: got around to seeing like the Avengers.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: And like, so like there was enough tie in, like,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: I guess maybe they saw the first two. I don't know.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: It was like not your normal comic book movie crowd.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: So I was just like, It's interesting that the crossover
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: that this, of all of them, the most spacey, you know,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: you would think they would at least be like.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, like Captain America.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: I know what that is.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: Like, you could go into that a little easier.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Where this one, especially once you get to the crazy
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: biological world, I'm like, what is Grandma over here thinking?
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah. So, I don't know. But it pulled in
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: a full.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: House and it was a lot of different types of
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: evil that I didn't expect, which is good.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: But also, like, strange that this of all of them,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: so I don't know if it's just.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: again, like Sean Gunn makes it more fun.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: And then like, it's easier to just.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: Kind of watch these one-off as opposed to watching 32
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: other movies.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, but. Well, that's the, that's the
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: beautiful thing about these Marvel films and series becoming as
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: popular as they are. They are able to spread to
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: a completely general audience who wouldn't be touched by this stuff.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: So in, in my experience, talking with a lot of
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: different folks and just meeting people and whatever else, um,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: Within a few minutes of a conversation, you're going to
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: know a big thing about me is basically I love
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: comic books, especially Marvel stuff. I don't know what I'm
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: talking about. So I love talking to people when basically
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: I found out, oh, you have interest in this stuff here,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to talk to you, see how big
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: your interest is. It's like, oh, yeah, those are good movies.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: I watch those. Or you really get into them, and
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: you now are in the presence of a, I don't
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: want to go on more, but an expert in And
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: you have questions or you want things clarified for you
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: or else. And so I love those conversations. So I've
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: talked to people who are literal grandmothers who are way
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: into this shit who have never read a comic book.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: Or they maybe read some Archie and, you know, Bugs
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: Bunny comics when they were a child. But they are
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: into superhero stuff. It's a crossover in weird ways that
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't have expected. And again, I guess it's just
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: because it's so huge.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: But, again, maybe these, because they, from the beginning, were like, oh,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: this is a totally different tone than those other ones.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: Like, we're doing a different thing.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: So maybe they're just more attracted to the Guardians series
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: because they're more fun.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: So, I don't know. But, yeah, it's definitely pulled in
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: an eclectic crowd. Well, I think the Guardians, James has
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: done some, made a great achievement of basically taking an
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: obscure team filled with very obscure characters. And making them
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: household names. Yeah. Like, if you would have told me
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: ten years ago that, you know, people would be walking
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: around saying, I am Groot. Like, really?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: And that one crossed over kid lies. Like, there are
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: people that are talking about, like, kids.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: Freak out for Groot, you know? Yeah. And that wouldn't
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: necessarily be the case.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: Even watching that first movie, it's like, I guess you
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: get baby Groot and it changed things.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: And especially now he has his own show.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it crossed over, so there's like, you're
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: pulling in this group, you're also pulling in the grandparents.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: So it's like, you've got the whole spectrum of audience members.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: Basically, the moment everybody falls in love with Groot in
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: the original Guardians of the Galaxy was towards the end
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: of the film, where they're basically fighting a bunch of guys,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: and Groot has the moment where he basically extends his
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: arm and impales five or six dudes, smacking them around
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: the walls, and then he turns around and says, hey,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? That moment cracks my wife
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: up every time. And that's the moment people fell in
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: love with Groot. Because it's like, he looks like this strange,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: very intimidating thing. But he's a little buddy. He's a
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: goofy kid. He's a goofy kid. Yeah.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: So we get that for real because he becomes a
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: kid as the next two movies.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: We're just now getting to him being a grown up
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: kind of again by the end when.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: He's like super massive giant version of Groot swole Groot
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: yeah well I mean the very end when he's like
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: king Groot oh yeah when he goes.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Kaiju yeah he's like huge by the post credit scene
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: he's like the rock behind him you're like oh shit
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: that's Groot.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: Like yeah I love it that was huge yeah I
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: love that thing we get kaiju Groot kaiju don't go
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: kaiju don't go kaiju But, yeah, we get all kinds
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: of moments in there. But I think that's kind of
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: just the beauty with the Guardians is that, you know,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: we've grown up with this group. The large majority of
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: the viewing audience didn't know who any of these characters were.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: So you kind of learned who they were, fell in
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: love with them, picked your favorites, whatever else. But also
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: the soundtracks work for a great nostalgia thing. You've got
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: a bunch of songs that had lost their popularity. We're
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: not known by a general younger audience who now know
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: these songs. Yeah, definitely from those first two. But that's
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: what I was eventually going to get to, too, is like,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: because now we have.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: The Zoom, so we can work in new, you know, eras.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: So we go all the way up to the 2000s and.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: I think it is an.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: Interesting, they're pulling from different times because it was all
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: kind of that same, well, it had to be because
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: of the cassette tape, but still he was picking just weird,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: like people knew him, but not like the hits, you know,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: it was just stuff on radio rock all the time
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: that you're like, I know that song. Wait, who does
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: that song? It was that kind of thing. And then
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: now he sort of does that, but with like other
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: stuff from different decades there. And I think the best
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: tie in as we're moving into the 90s, was they
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: also get into the Intel bunny suits thing.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: The first time I saw it in the trailer, I
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, God, here we go. Again, visually, it's amazing,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: but at.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: The same time, it was just like, what a weird
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: pull that only a handful of people of that era
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: are going to see that and have that recognition of, like, oh, yeah,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: remember when those commercials were on constantly?
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking of the Intel, I was thinking
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: of the Teletubbies, and then there's, what's that video game
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: that kids play, like, the tiny little robots?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they reference that, too, and I didn't know it,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: because I'm not that, I missed that wave.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: I was the Intel wave, obviously. Yeah, but yeah, the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: tiny little robots, and everybody's, like, got different color spacesuits
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: and whatnot, but I can't remember what it's called, but yeah,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: those images, I mean, because everybody's got, like, different suits,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: and I love that, too, like, They're hiding the suits,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: and they basically launch the suits out of the airlock. Which, again,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: blaming Mantis. Like, she's just doing what they needed to
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: do in the moment. She didn't know that was what
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: it was for.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: A little just hostile. Yeah, the trash shooter or whatever else.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: They're watching the suits fly by. Yeah, that was great stuff, dude. But, yeah, so, yeah,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: we get a 90s-heavy soundtrack, and then basically Rocket has
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: the Zoom now, because that was a great thing, too,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: is that Basically, the reason why Peter almost dies is
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: to give the Zune four rockets. It's nice when it's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: four rockets. Initially, I'm just like, once again, Peter, you're
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: an idiot. Don't go back for the Zune. You can
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: go get another Zune. It will be harder to find.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: You'll have to go back in time. But, yeah, I
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: was just like, really? You're going to kill yourself over
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: the Zune? You would think, like, okay, it's like, you know,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: we're finding all these, like, ancient technologies, but it's like,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: There are supercomputers and AIs in this world. Like, couldn't
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: they just like download every song in existence from that?
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Couldn't we get it like that dude with the thing
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: in his head and like you could just access him
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: all right in the brain and have it hardwired into
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: the side.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: Of your head? And I like that guy. I kept going, wait,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: I know him. Oh, yeah. Superstore. Yeah. He was awesome
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: on Superstore. Yeah, he was. He was a jerk in
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: this movie. So it is fun the way they take
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: him out. I was like, oh, this is not going
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: to go well for you. Nope, there it goes. Yep.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, get one of those nice implants in your head.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: You can just download all your music. But you would
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: be the only one to be able to, unless you
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: have an external speaker. Or you just open your mouth
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: and people can hear the music. Which I do, right? Again,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: they made a point of how much they don't just
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: work it in as a soundtrack. That the characters themselves
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: are listening to these songs. And have favorites. Yeah, so
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: I mean... like Rocket has.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: It paired with the speakers in the town so like
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: everybody's enjoying that and number one I do like Creep
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: like I've loved Creep from the first time I heard
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: it but like in this crowd, like, you know, the
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: entirety of the Downer lyrics are perfect for this group
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: of broken-ass people.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, to come off of, like, okay,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: so we see this, like, flash of Rocket's origin, and
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: then we go to the present day, and we're seeing Rocket,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: you know, all forlorn, and then he brings Creep on, like,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: holy shit, are we trying to kill the audience? We
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: have boosted Creep. Let's bring in even more. Yeah, even sadder.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: Even more low-key.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: We don't even have the cool, like, oh, really loud
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: guitar that kicks in acoustic is just downer.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: All the way through and i'm a weirdo and everybody.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 19: Around me is a freaking weirdo this whole town is
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 19: a bunch of weirdos and so i like that as
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 19: a tie-in but then as we go forward again i don't.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: Know if it's just something with this time that we're
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: in but you need a good way to wrap up
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: your sci-fi.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: Movie is to kick in with some beastie boys How
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: many times have we seen it?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: We've seen it like twice in Star Trek. And now
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: this movie. I was just like, man, people love the
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: Beastie Boys. And rightfully so. They are awesome, but... What a.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: Weird tie-in for sci-fi that has become a thing now.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: And, of course, Intergalactic was used in the Marvel trailer.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: In the Marvels, yeah. Which I love the bit of
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: trolling that they do, too. Because, you know, they incorporate
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: the first line of the song with a, don't you
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: tell me to smile. And so it's like, oh, that
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: was all the bullshit they were going with. That's the
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: whole theme of Captain Marvel, yeah. And it's like, oh,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: why don't you smile a little bit? Because she's fucking
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Carol Danvers. She's not a smiley person. She's a business lady.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: She's military. And in the real world, everybody's pissed at
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: this woman anyway.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm kind of surprised they suckered her back for
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: another movie.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: She took a lot of heat off of that. And
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know why.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Because it's a bunch of dorky boys that don't come
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: to terms with the fact it's okay for her to
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: be a girl and be in a superhero movie.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: I just don't like that she's all powerful. But other
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: than that, I have no problem with her as a character.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: She's just the Superman of this bunch, which makes me
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: not like her. I mean, again, I know her character.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: And so I was fine with her and I was
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: fine with the performance. Carol's not, you know, she's a
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: good person. She does the right thing, but I wouldn't
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: qualify her as being warm and fuzzy. Yeah.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: Well, and I, as it's going on, it's like, I
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: still like the property because Rambo seems pretty awesome.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: And then I really like our, our Ms. Marvel.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: Like I was so, I played the trailer. I was like,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad she's as featured as she is in this.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: Cause it's like, I enjoyed that series so much. And
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: then like, I'm going to like her more than Captain Marvel.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: So she's way cooler than you. Well, I think too, you.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: Know, Kamala is definitely going to soften up Carol a
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: bit too. Yeah. Which is good. Like, She's very detached
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: in that whole movie. So it's like she kind of
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: needs something to.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: Make her more accessible to the characters themselves and the audience.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: So I think that will be handy moving forward to
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: maybe make people like her a little more. Because she's
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: maybe the least liked of all the Marvel characters. I
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but nobody took to her, really.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: What I think, too, it has a lot to do
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: with the fact that basically Carol kind of comes off
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: as elitist, but you have to think. It's like, She
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: was Air Force, and then she was abducted by aliens
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: after she had been given this power from the flight accident. Yeah.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: So she's super powerful, abducted by aliens, put in another
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: elite force in an alien world, in an alien environment,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: where she's not away from Earth for 20 years. So
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: it's like, what do you expect out of her? She
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't know what it's like to be humans. She doesn't
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: really have normal relationships, does she?
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: It's like she's been out doing shit literally in the universe.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: She has a greater universal awareness than even the Avengers do.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: Because she makes the point in Endgame. We're like, yeah,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: we could use you for this shit. Well, guess what?
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: Not everybody has the Avengers dipshit.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: The universe doesn't revolve around Earth, actually.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: As previously thought for a long time ago. Yeah, actually,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: there's other shit going on out there, and nobody else
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: is fixing it. The Earth has you guys. I'm the
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: only one out there doing everything else. It almost seems
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: like that line, too, was for all the social media trolls.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: It doesn't revolve around you. I like that occasionally they
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: cross over with a little bit. Hey, guess what? It's
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: not all about you, so get over yourself. So I'm
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: on Team Bree, so trolls, go F yourself, and leave
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: my girl alone. I'm just waiting for Ms. Marvel to
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: take over. I'm not sure what they're doing with this plot.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: Watching that trailer, I was like, there's a lot of
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: body swapping and place swappings, and it's going to be
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: interesting to then take that and be able to come
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: up with a good story to build all this around.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to it, again, mostly because I
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: like Ms.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: Marvel. Well, and I'm kind of waiting for Kamala to
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: catch up to who she is in the comics, because
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: right now she's still very juvenile and still very new.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: Which is my favorite part. Like, it was such a
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: high school story, and like a small stakes story of
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: just her and her friends. And like, that was mostly
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: wasn't universe changing where now she's been thrown into the
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: middle of that. So I kind of love that as
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: the series, because it's one of the few times we
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: get something that's just a personal story about her and
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: learning to use her powers.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: And like, so now again, she's thrown into the universe
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: and has to fight, you know, to save the world
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: But I think that it's going to do wonders for
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: her character because in the comic how she was introduced
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 3: in Captain Marvel is, of course, she's a fangirl and
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: kind of ends up, you know, getting powers and so
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: Carol has to kind of like mentor her and help
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: her out and whatever else. So because of her interaction
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: with Carol, Kamala becomes a hell of a leader. Yeah.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: And to a point where basically like, you know, when
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: she grows into an adult, she's going to be one
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: hell of a hero. You know, so already at a
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: young age, she's kind of leading around her counterparts of
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: her age, like, you know, Miles Morales and Ironheart and
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: whatever else. Yeah. Yeah, they're all, you know, the Young
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: Avengers are all in her age group. So, yeah, she's
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: a hell of a leader now. So she's going to
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 3: be even greater then. So I'm looking forward to seeing
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 3: that journey possibly in this upcoming Marvels movie. Yeah. And,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: of course, we get to flesh out Monica Rambeau because
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: we enjoyed her in WandaVision.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, WandaVision's the best we've gotten from her character-wise. So, yeah,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: we'll give it a chance to expand a little on her, too.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see how they're going to tie
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 3: in how all three of these characters are related. Because
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: in the comics, they're not related in the only way
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 3: there are is by legacy. Because, you know, Carol Danvers...
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: You know, is the.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: They're passing the torch every time, not all there at
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: the same time.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Carol had the more interesting journey because, basically,
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: she was kind of the sidekick of the original Captain Marvel,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: and she took the name Ms. Marvel, and so she
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: took that moniker for a number of years, and then
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: when Mar-Vell died, she was expected to take the Captain
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 3: Marvel moniker, and she didn't. She instead would take monikers
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: like Warbird or Binary when she basically had these, like, weird, like,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: her powers had this weird flare-up point where she looked
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: like she was basically, like, literally crackling with cosmic energy
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: where she didn't even look human. And that was a
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: brief period in the 90s. But yeah, so anyway, so
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: then finally in the early 2000s, in the Kelly Sue
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: DeConnick run, she takes finally the mantle of Captain Marvel,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: whereas Monica Rambeau in the 80s was a different Captain Marvel.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: She had different power sets, but she took the moniker
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: with Carol's blessing. And then Ms. Marvel, Kamala hasn't taken
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: the Captain Marvel role just yet, but she's now Ms. Marvel. Obviously,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: that's where she's going. But she's going to go there
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: in one way, shape, or form.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I'm going to be interested to see how
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: they will tie in all three of them together. So, yeah,
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: as they wrap up to this movie, that's where we're
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: going next. Yeah. Well, we know at least that's the
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: next step in this crazy journey. And then where we're
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: going from there remains to be seen. Nobody's really sure.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, because, of course, we've got to wait until
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: November for the Marvels, but it's like, We should have
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: had Secret Invasion in the spring, and it's been pushed
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: back to later in the year. Yeah. Loki... I don't know,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: because I got a feeling they're holding, because as far
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 3: as I knew, Loki season two was ready to go. Yeah.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: That's why in Ant-Man we get the tease. But how
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 3: much of it revolves around that character? Okay. Yeah. And
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: the answer is a lot. What are they going to
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 3: do now?
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: So I'm curious if they're just, if they're holding off
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 3: on that series because waiting to see what happens in
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: the real world with Jonathan Majors. because yeah he plays
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: a big role in season two yeah they definitely set
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 3: that up the first time around and in the end
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: of that movie so yeah so yeah yeah that's trouble
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: so yeah and then of course like we still don't
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 3: know like I know Echo had some production issues so
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: they were delayed um I think Born Again the Daredevil
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: series is currently being developed or currently they're working on
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 3: it but it's not running yet um You know, I
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: don't know anything more about Agatha. We keep hearing casting announcements.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure what to do with that one. Like,
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: what story are you... Again, you're switching that. Now we're
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: going with the villain-ish. And then, like, what? Oh, I
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: don't know. Like, that one, I just don't know what
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: you're even going to do with it as a story.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 3: I'm curious, too. That thing is that Agatha has ridden
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: the line in the comics of hero and villain. And
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: the only reason she's ever been a villain is because
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: the reader is taking from the point of view of Wanda...
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: who we think is a hero. As it turns out,
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: not so much. Anyway, yeah, there's been times in the
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 3: books we've found out that basically she's very easily corrupted
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 3: by her powers or by other magical beings or by
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: just her own ambitions and has done some bad things. Basically,
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: one has broken bad about four or five times in
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: her years. Became her thing. So, Agatha, at times where
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 3: she comes off as a villain, turns out, oh, well,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: actually she was working for us. So, So she's definitely
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 3: been a complicated character. So I'm curious to see what
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: they're going to do with that series. If this is
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 3: kind of her hero's journey. If this is opening up
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: more of the magical realm of things. I don't know.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions. We know we're supposed to
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: get a season two of What If. We know we've
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 3: got the X-Men 97 series coming up. I figure the
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: What If is the easiest one because it's detached. So...
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 3: It seems like it should be able to do, though. Yeah,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 3: it just takes time to produce. Yeah, animation is a
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: lot more work. Yeah, so aside from the Marvels, what's
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: coming next for Marvel? Definitely a lot of things. When
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 3: and where? Who knows? Yeah, I guess, was it June 24th,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: I think, is when Secret Invasion?
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 6: So, yeah.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: They're running ads for it a lot, so I'm assuming
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 3: that one's going to happen. Yeah, they gave it a
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 3: date on Disney +, like you can turn to the
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: page and see Coming June 24th, so... Yeah. So, I
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 3: wish reality would stop getting in the way of my fiction, goddammit.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: If people would quit being assholes. Yes! Stop saying that.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: If we've learned anything from this story, don't be like
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 3: Peter and be a jerk.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: Or.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 3: These characters are... But they all turn a corner and
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 3: eventually realize they're alright. So just stay alright and don't
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 3: be a jerk in the real world. Exactly. Then we
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: can make things without having to CGI out your face.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 3: Just wondering where they're going. Now you can kind of
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 3: do that technology.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: What if you take the entire second season and just
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: put somebody else's face on him?
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: As our new actor moving forward anyway.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: Can we just shoot all out of your face and
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: work it in and then later we'll put you in
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: the movies.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 3: How about that? Yeah. Who knows? You can do that now.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: So.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: Who knows indeed. But yeah.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: So.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 3: We've got some interesting stuff possibly coming down the line.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter when the hell it's coming out. Yeah.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: But at least here we, we.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: Get another director finishing out their trilogy. So that's become
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: a couple in a row now. So we, We've had
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: another one, and maybe the most successful? I mean, James
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: Gunn is pretty solid all the way through.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he really is.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: Definitely at least sort of had a pretty good plan
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: for where he was going and.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: Stayed true on most of the characters.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'm always impressed with James Gunn, but yeah,
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: he's pretty impressive.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: I guess the next thing we'll see from Gunn is
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: a Superman movie.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm more concerned about him moving to the
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: DC side because Most of the DC stuff I don't
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: care about as much, and definitely not Superman. But, again,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: he's done, you know, the Suicide Squad was a good example.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: It's like, you take something that failed, give it to
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: James Gunn, it's a super fun movie. So it's like,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: maybe he can do it. And who would have thought
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: Peacemaker would have been as much of a hit? Yeah,
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, to take a weird character anyway, that's a
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: side character in this movie... And then just take it
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 3: in a whole new direction and spin it off into
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: your own separate series. Yeah. I mean, I got to
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: give a lot of credit to John Cena and his
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: performance as well. Oh, yeah. But the other thing, too, is,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: you know, James is very much a music geek. So,
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: you know, he popularized a lot of hits of the
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: 70s and the 80s for his Guardians films. And then
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, maybe brought back some 90s, you know,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: songs maybe some younger folks didn't know about or BBB.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: People forgot, but then you go into the Peacemaker series,
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 3: and it's my kind of music. The hair metal, or
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: metal that may be newer, but sounds like it's hair metal,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff like that. Just the whole thing with
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 3: basically Wigwam resurrecting their career because of Peacemaker. Yeah. Because
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: the story was basically their management dropped them a week
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: before the Peacemaker series was going to debut. Yeah. And
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: then their song, Do You Want to Taste It, is
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 3: the theme, and everybody is obsessed with that opening.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, that kind of works in their favor, because
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: now you can set the new price for being represented
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: by whoever you want.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: Well, this literally was, basically, by the time the third
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: or fourth episode came out, They had new management, and
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 3: the album that was finished they'd been sitting on was
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: now ready to be released. So, yeah, Wigwam, bless their hearts,
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 3: got themselves a bit of a second bump there. I mean,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 3: and they've been around, you know, they've worked for Sweden,
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 3: and they've, you know, had a couple albums. I mean,
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 3: the album that Do You Want to Taste It, I think,
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: came out like in 2010. Yeah. So it's an old
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: song to them and to fans of Wigwam, but, you know,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: there you go. Well, that's the way the whole industry
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: works now.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: There was some other new weird song that on the
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: radio they're playing all the time now.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: And they were like, yeah, this came out like 12
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: And it got picked up because it was on specific TikToks.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: And then kids were like, oh, what is this song?
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: So now basic regular radio that usually only plays brand
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: new stuff is pulling the stuff out and running it
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: because it found a weird second life.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: Because the new generations don't have any connection. There is no.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: Specific time and place, or they don't even pull from
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: their own era.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 3: Like, their era is anything that's in front of them,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 3: because everything is accessible to them.
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: So, like, nothing... follows patterns anymore it's all just whatever
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: happens to take off happens to take off and like.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 3: Now the old school guard that runs everything is like
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: shit how do we do this like they're getting caught
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: off guard by all these things that are popular for
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: no reason as far as they know because it's out
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 3: of the blue because they're not sitting.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: On tiktok all day so They don't know what the
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: next song is going to be because you can't predict
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: it now.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 3: It's not following any trends anymore. You're right.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've got a nephew who he's 16 now
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 3: and like his musical tastes run from like 1920s jazz
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: to like goth synth wave.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, there is no, at least everything before was.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 3: Dictated by someone else.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: It was like, when I was a kid, you listen
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: to the radio and you know, it's like an MTV
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: came along and they picked specific things that became popular.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: And it was all, we were all in that same timeframe.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: So like every kid sitting at home is watching the
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: same video premiere at the same time. Nobody does that now.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 3: Nobody's in charge now. Now kids are just like, what
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 3: do I want to listen to? And everything in the
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: world is accessible.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: And like, so they find their own way, which is
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: awesome on one hand. And at the same time, like,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: there are no trends. There are no waves of anything.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: Like nobody follows a click music wise anymore. Like you
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: had all the metal kids and the punk kids.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: Now every kid's a whatever.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: So you don't have those little clicks anymore. Like every
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: kid finds their own way. So that's great. But at
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: the same time, it's so foreign to people that came
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: from everybody's a click and.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: Everything is a wave of this and that. And if
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't do that. Though I still gotta give it up
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: to the goth and the metal kids, because at least
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 3: they still follow the dress code. They look the part,
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 3: but then if you start delving into their musical case, yes,
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: they like the stuff they're still looking about, but then
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: almost like, oh yeah, I'm also a big fan of
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 3: the Brady Bunch. Yeah, they're totally a mixture of everything now, so.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 3: Or like, you know, I was like, you know, Baby
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: Shark was one of my favorite songs growing up as
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 3: a child, and you know, I look like I should be,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: you know, back up for the cure, but also like
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 3: all this.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 3: You know, you're right. There are no rules anymore. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I still get, you know, because part of
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 3: my job, you know, working at the comic book store
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: is that I do auctions online. And so most of
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: the time I'm playing music and my, you know, my
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 3: go-to is like 70s through 90s hard rock and metal.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: So like a Triumph song came on, Never Surrender, right?
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I've known this song for decades.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: It's one of their.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 3: I've got their greatest hits sitting upstairs. And that song
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 3: is on there, yeah.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: It's not one of their hugest hits, but it was
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 3: a big hit. They've got a lot of, like, anthems
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 3: kind of rock stuff. Like, that's what they did. And
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 3: so this song's playing, and it gets kind of, like,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 3: midway through the song. I got the big solo in there,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 3: and one of my people that's in the auction, and he,
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: you know, was a younger guy, and he's like, oh, yeah,
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 3: what's this song? And so I told him what it was, and, like,
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, okay, he's probably his early 20s. I
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 3: didn't even ask him for his age, but he's a
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 3: younger guy. Yeah, yeah. Has not a clue who that is.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: But it's like, dude, like... Have you never listened to
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 3: classic rock in your own town where it's like that
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: song is probably on a loop? Probably not. Like, where
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: would you... Exactly.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: It doesn't get thrown out there now unless you go
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: seek it out. So, like, they have to find their
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: own way essentially now.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 3: Like, it's not like.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: Again, people were, like, curating stuff for you. Not the
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: best version of it. It was usually corporate run stuff.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: But still, it was like, here's the things that are
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: out right now.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: You have to listen to all these. And, like, now
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: nobody does that anymore. Yeah, it just fascinates me how...
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 3: young people find stuff. A popular title now, the Garbage
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: Pail Kids and Madballs have come back in comics to
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: the point where they have a mashup. Garbage Pail Kids
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: have their own book, and then they did a mashup
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 3: with the Madballs. I've got kids that are under 15,
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 3: 16 coming in asking for Garbage Pail Kid books. Are
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 3: you going to be GPK? I'm like, How do you know?
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: That is what it stands for, but I would not
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: expect that from you.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time somebody, some young guy, you know,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 3: asked for, you got any GBK books? Like, oh, first-world kids.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 17: Like, yes.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: Like, wait a minute. You sure you don't need this
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 3: for your dad or your grandpa? Yeah, I wasn't trying
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 3: to be like a gatekeeper or anything. No, you just
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 3: don't expect it. I was fascinated, like, how do you
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 3: know what this 20-year-old property that basically hasn't had anything
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 3: new produced in decades until now?
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: Well, and it's like that's what I've thought recently with TV, too,
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: because there's like kids will reference whatever, but it's like
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: hit and miss. Because everybody that grew up before, like
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: there was your networks. You had three, maybe four if
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: you went forward in time. But like that was it.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: Everything that came on, it was a set schedule that
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: somebody else put together. It was all at the same
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: time every week.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, I watched it. That was it. Nobody does that now.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 3: There isn't. I mean, there is network TV, but nobody
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: cares about it. Nobody appointment watches a damn thing. So
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 3: there is no version of that anymore. Yeah, I've got basically,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: in the entirety of shows I watch, there's only one
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: show I have that's appointment television, and it's wrestling. But
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 3: other than that, it's like nothing else I watch is
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: appointment television anymore. I watch Ghosts every week because I
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 3: love that show.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: Also because you can't watch things anymore unless you buy everything.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 3: Like even network television.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: You have to sign up for their special deal and
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: have a streaming version of it.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 3: Or even if you watch it on antenna... you can't
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 3: watch it. If you go online to watch it, you
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: have to put in.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: Your cable provider and once again prove to them that
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: you're blowing a lot of money to be able to
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: watch an old episode. So now I just have to
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: watch it when it's on or sign up for more
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: services I can't afford.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: See, that's why I kind of like services like Pluto
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 3: and Freebie and whatnot or Tubi is another good one.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: Tubi is great if you want to go down the
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 3: rabbit hole of obscure or like, you know, old movies,
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 3: grindhouse kind of stuff, just, you know, movies that have
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: been forgotten by the decades. That's a great place to
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 3: just discover. They've got pretty good and bigger name stuff,
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 3: but then there's all those other weird ones.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: I just downloaded another one on the player thing because
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: there was like, somebody said it was some movie that
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't even like a big studio
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: movie back in the like 50s, 40s. And I was
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: just like, well, it's maybe streaming because nobody's going to
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 1: care anymore.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: So if there's a version of it out there, it's
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 3: probably streaming on a little damned if it wasn't.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, now I'm going to go watch
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: this movie. It's like, there's so many options of that
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: stuff that's just out there and free most of the time.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: If it's older stuff that people haven't heard of, which
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: is usually the stuff I like finding.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like last episode, we talked about Bronx Warriors.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 3: That's on freebie. I've been a big fan of the
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: Quentin Tarantino podcast. A lot of the movies they talk
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 3: about there, you can get on freebie. You know, you
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 3: got to watch those commercials from time to time in there.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: But for the most part, it's free shit. So it's
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 3: because you've got stuff like that. It's like, you know,
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody about Pluto. We watch a
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: lot of it. It's fun. Jump around different channels and
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. And somebody was like, oh, yeah.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: I was going to get there and watch this little
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 3: love boat show. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. That
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: was a big show back in the day. It was like, yes,
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 3: that was a big deal because that was on Saturday nights.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, really?
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 13: He's like, yeah.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 3: I was like, people actually watch television on Saturday nights
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: because there was a twofer. He had Love Boat and
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 3: Fantasy Island. And they had never heard of Fantasy Island. Oh, boy.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: But see, but that's the thing. Again, it's like hit
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: and miss. But there's no Fantasy Island 24-7 channel.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 7: No.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 3: But there's a 24-7 Love Boat channel. So it's like,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 3: so they know, oh, Love Boat exists. Love Boat gets referenced,
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 3: you know, every now and then in pop culture. And, like,
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: points to MeTV.
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: They do pick up specific stuff and then just run
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: it for as long because there's only half of them are, like,
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: a handful of seasons.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you're playing it daily. Like, you're through
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: those same shows over and over again.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 7: So, yeah.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 3: At least i think once a week on love boat
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 3: because i do see him every once in a while
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: and i'll just go in and be like all.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: Right let's see who's the stars on this one it's
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: always fun.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: To see who they roped into stuff because it's always
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 3: people working on other stuff at the time and it's
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 3: like here's your chance to play somebody else for 45
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 3: minutes like or you get like the super love boat
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: episodes where like you have like there's like a lot
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 3: of like you know, Rue McClanahan was a regular in
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 3: The Love Boat, or, you know, Dick Van Patten. Fred
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: Ward on this one. Please do. You're like the one
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 3: that has Rue McClanahan and Fred Ward and Dick Van
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 3: Patten and so-and-so. As long as Charles shows up, that's
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: all I'm waiting for. Yeah, I mean, you get like,
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: holy shit, it's every guest star was on this one here.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 3: Those would be impressive. Yeah, but it's just so fun
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: how you get a younger audience. Because they're cutting the cord,
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: and they're either doing antenna and streaming, or one or
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: the other. And just randomly trying stuff. Yeah. Which, again,
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 3: you don't have a video store to go stand in,
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 3: so the new version is scroll through and be like,
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: the hell is Love Boat? And just hit the button,
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 3: and you're like, this is the cheesiest thing I've ever seen.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 3: And you're awake. And maybe you love it, you know?
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 3: It's like, you can't tell. You gotta wade into the
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: waters and find your thing. I see what you did there.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: Wade into the waters there. Ah!
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: I saw a picture of Stubing younger he's always looked
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: He's always been bald he's always because he was on
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: again I think it was MeTV was running promos and it's.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: Him on another show like a black and white show
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: or he might have been in Mayberry or something and
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: like Again, it's like 20 years before, and he's still
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: no hair, looked exactly, I mean, he didn't look old
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: in that one, it was just the hair thing, but
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: he looked exactly the same. I'm like, that guy has
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: been that way for his whole life.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 3: There's certain actors you knew as being bald, and it's
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: weird to see them. With hair, or it's also weird
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: to see them in younger roles and they still don't
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: have hair.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 3: Like, James Tolkien's a great example. You know him from
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 3: the Back to the Future movies, you know, the slapper.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: He always played like a principal or an authority figure
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: because he was great at that so that dude's never
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: had hair.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 13: Jeez didn't that guy ever have hair no no he's
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 13: never had hair I don't know maybe some childhood pictures
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 13: but it's like he came out bald and.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: He stayed that way as far as his professional career
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 3: goes I've never seen.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: Him with hair in a film sometimes it's better it's
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: jarring if they look too whoa what is going on
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: here yeah so Yeah.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 3: There's nothing worse than getting used to somebody who's bald
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 3: and they get a hair piece. I'm like, come on. Like,
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: if they're doing, like, the natural hair thing, like the
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 3: hair replacement, you know, like, that starts a gradual thing
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: so you get used to it over time. But suddenly, like,
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: you know, Johnny was bald and then he shows up
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 3: and Johnny's got a hair. Like, no, no. I said
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 3: that recently.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, we're missing a whole new generation of bad, like, rugs.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: You just don't see people wearing bad toupees anymore.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: You either just shave your head or you go get
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: full-on hair replacement.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of middle ground anymore. You still
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: see bad toupees, but these are usually men who are
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: over the age of 60. Yeah, that have been wearing
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 3: it since there wasn't another option. Right, yeah. It's like
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 3: they're too cheap to get the other stuff or, you know,
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 3: they think they look fine. No, sir, you look like
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: you have a rat on your head. And you have
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: two different colors of hair and it's not a hair dye.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 3: It's an obvious. Well, we've come full circle on that one. Yeah,
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 3: we did.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: Four animals being tortured to.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 3: A rat on your head, so it's all come back around.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 3: And somehow managed to work the love bone there, too.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 3: What the shit?
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 7: There you go.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: So, as we escape this craziness, once again, when you're
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: not here talking about this crazy nonsense, tell people where.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 3: To find you any other day of the week. You
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 3: can find me on the Fanatic Forum. I go live
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: Fridays at 7 p.m. Eastern. I'm on Facebook and YouTube
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 3: if you want to watch me live because there is
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 3: a video component to the podcast because I'm talking about
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 3: comics and showing them off usually. Yeah. But if you
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 3: don't want to watch me, then you can listen to
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 3: me basically anywhere you can listen to podcasts. So I'm
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: all over the place. Or, you know, hop on Whatnot,
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 3: follow Clobber and Comics, and I'm on there four days
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: a week selling books. You don't see me, but you
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: hear my voice. Once again, there is no normal stream.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: You find it yourself. So this is how you find it.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: You go find him, and then you click on it,
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: and you choose your path and take him along for
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: the ride.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: Damn right. We'll take you on some geek threads here
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 3: for sure. All right. Well, we've covered a lot, so
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 3: we better get that out of line. Yeah. The ship
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: is parked out back. It's over Topica. I mean, granted,
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not crushing some houses, but somebody now has some
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 3: extra shade that they didn't have a few minutes ago.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: Gotta go re-board the boat and get on out. Otherwise,
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 3: that about does it. We'll see you next time. Take care.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. Later, y'all.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 4: I'm out of here. I lost everything I'll never be
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 4: I lost everything I taught myself to show the world
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 4: that I am the one deep inside my heart.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 5: I lost everything I can't avoid anything from you You're
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 5: my platform I'm not the scum to you To the
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 5: left and out of my head Only powers.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 4: I escape.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 4: Bye. Bye.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 4: Now I can't stay free.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: And then eventually some weird dude who kept jumping like
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: it was a slasher movie.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 3: There were two or three times when, like, something would, like,
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: happen to Rocky. He'd be like, hold on. I was
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 3: just like, dude, are you okay? Like, do you just
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 3: not get out of the house ever? Which might be
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 3: the case.
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