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Senator PAYMAN wants a Two State Solution. Is she being honest with the Australian electorate? · The Slippery Slope

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  low. Hi, I'm Jay Fallon.
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  Thanks for listening to the Slippery Slope.
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  So today is the 3rd of July 2024.
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  So big story that's happened here in Australia.
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  We've had a senator. Her last name is Payment,
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  Senator Payment. She is originally from
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  Afghanistan and she has been making waves or causing trouble,
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  whichever way you want to look at it.
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  She's a senator and she's been asking, well, she's been
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  crossing the floor and going with a emotion which put forward
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  by the Greens to recognise Palestine or the state of
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  Palestine. Because you know, this is what
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  the Greens are all about, issues that have got nothing to do with
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  Australia and but they want to recognise an independent state
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  of Palestine. And basically they're they're
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  calling for A2 state solution. And I'll get more into that
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  later on, but this story says that Labour senator could remain
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  in party despite defiance on Palestinian recognition.
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  Now first, I want to say that you shouldn't surprise us that
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  we've had these issues. We've got these issues going on.
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  We invite, we allow these people groups to come into our nation
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  and I think it's it's not a bad thing.
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  However, we fail to recognise that if we just keep allowing
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  inordinate amounts of these people with specific ideologies
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  to come into this nation and then we then we behave surprised
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  when they want to change the free society that they've come
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  into. They like the free society.
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  They come here because they're free.
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  Because, you know, she was back in Afghanistan.
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  She'd have to, to put a nicely shut her mouth and pull her head
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  in because she would have been dead by now.
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  But she comes to Australia. She likes her freedom.
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  She enjoys the freedom of Australia.
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  She gets voted in as a senator and now she's standing up for
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  Palestine, standing up, voting with the Greens, crossing the
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  floor, voting with the Greens for A2 state solution to
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  recognise Palestine as a separate state, something that
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  in reality's got nothing to do with Australia.
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  I don't think it's a good thing for Australia to do from a
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  biblical point of view. But regardless of that, it's,
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  it's still got nothing to do with Australia.
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  She also accused Israel of committing genocide in this war.
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  So, you know, let's completely forget that there was peace.
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  There was nothing happening. The Israelis weren't out
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  attacking the so-called Palestinian people.
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  But you know, you know, when they decided to in October of
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  last year, no one attack unprovoked the Israeli nation
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  and killed over 1000. Well, they, they took all this
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  hostages, they killed over 1000 people.
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  You know, Israel was supposed to just forget that.
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  They were supposed to ignore that and just keep going on and
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  just accept it and say, oh, thanks for doing that.
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  And obviously it's our fault because we want to exist as a
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  nation. So this is the kind of person
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  that we're dealing with. And, you know, we, I read these
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  stories, I think, well, where did we think we're going?
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  Because now we have calls from people saying that, OK, well,
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  even people like this payment saying that she's possibly
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  thinking about or other groups saying, well, she could possibly
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  join a Muslim party. And there's concerns that we
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  will have Muslim groups forming Muslim parties.
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  And, but I think I said they're going, where did you think all
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  this was going? We keep, we constantly invite
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  people whose own beliefs and own ideologies go completely against
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  the Judeo Christian beliefs that this nation was built upon, that
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  it was constructed upon. And then we wonder why they
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  don't want to, you know, they, they like this nation, but then
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  they want to change it because they don't appreciate the, the
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  Judeo Christian beliefs that form the foundation of this
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  nation. So we have people like this
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  Senator Payment. So she's crossed the floor to
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  vote against her party. On a motion related to
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  Palestinian recognition. The Greens moved a motion
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  calling for the Senate to recognise the State of
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  Palestine. Labour and the Coalition both
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  tried to amend that motion to add qualifications, but neither
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  party supported the others attempted in.
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  Both failed throughout. Senator payments sat in the
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  chamber, in the advisors box and did not participate in votes.
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  But when the final vote came on the Greens motion, she stood up
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  and voted with the Greens and crossbench senators Lydia Thorpe
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  and David Pocock in support of recognition.
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  Lidia Thorpe is the biggest traitor through this nation, and
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  I say that because she claims to be indigenous as well.
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  That's why I think she's the biggest traitor.
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  An educated trailer. It is the first time a Labour
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  politician has crossed the floor while Labour is in government
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  since 1988. Labor Party rules state that all
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  members must vote in line with the position taken by the Labour
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  caucus. It is then up to the caucus to
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  to decide on the penalty, which can include suspension from the
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  caucus. Expulsion from the Labor Party
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  itself is a matter for the party's national executive.
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  Senate Payment has made several public statements in recent
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  weeks in support of the Palestinian cause and criticised
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  her parties position in an opinion piece published in Al
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  Jazeera last week. Isn't it great?
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  Isn't it great that we've got an Australian and I'll exciting
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  quotation marks, an Australian politician being published in Al
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  Jazeera? Yeah, in a press conference held
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  immediately after the vote. Senator Payman, remember she's
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  from Afghanistan, said she did not decide how she would vote
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  until she was sitting in the chamber immediately before it.
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  OK. It was the most difficult
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  decision I've had to make and although each step I took across
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  the Senate floor felt like a mile, I know I did not walk
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  alone, she said. Ohhhhh, so courageous.
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  We cannot believe in two state solutions and only recognise
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  one. This is this is what they want,
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  a two state solution. All these naughties because
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  either they don't know history or they just want to ignore
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  history. When, when these people talk
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  about two state solutions, but in the same breath, they'll,
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  they'll say from the river to the sea, Palestine must be free,
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  which doesn't mean two state solution.
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  It means one state, Palestine state and the annihilation of
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  the Jewish people. That's what it means.
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  They, they don't really want a two state solution anyway.
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  So she says, Yep, we cannot believe it too.
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  Solution Payment said she still held the core values of the
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  Labor Party, the core values and hoped to remain.
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  But she said it had been clear, made clear to her that expulsion
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  from the party was a risk if she crossed the floor.
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  I hold Labour values and blah, blah, blah.
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  She said she had not spoken to the Prime Minister about the
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  vote. She has since then, but since
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  this story anyway. So there it is, the Greens, the
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  Greens who you know, if we keep following, if we keep allowing,
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  if we keep voting and I say we I'm not not that I'm voting them
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  in, but if the people out here in Australia are keep voting,
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  the Greens in our country is going to get it's just going to
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  go down the garden path. The Greens have no idea.
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  They are full of people ideologies.
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  That's have no place, no place in a modern functioning society.
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  OK, now only if you want to take our our nation down the path of
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  of having a despot as a leader of Marxism.
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  Only if you want to go down that path.
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  Well then you you should keep voting for the Greens.
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  Otherwise, if you don't want to be ruled by a despot, well then
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  stop voting for the Greens. So I want to go into this.
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  Why? So the senator says she's making
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  it like, you know, A2 state solution.
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  That's all we want. From the river to the sea,
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  Palestine will be free. Yippie Kaye 2 state solution
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  everyone. That's what I want.
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  So I'm going to bring something up.
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  I'll bring it up on the screens so you can all check it out.
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  If if you're following along and we'll, we'll, we'll have a look
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  at, you know, at the two state solution and, and how well this
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  has gone. So this this article.
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  So this is from the Law and Law and societymagazine.com.
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  OK, the title, this came out last year.
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  How Palestine rejected, rejected offer to have its own state five
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  times in the past five times, not once, not twice, not 3 * 5
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  times. They rejected, rejected it.
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  OK, let's go through the times. OK, so I'll just read this whole
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  lot. It says if Israel just to lay
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  out the Palestinians to have a state of their own, there would
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  be peace in the Middle East, right?
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  That's what they tell you, That's what the Greens tell you.
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  That's what this payment tells you.
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  She's from Afghanistan. She knows all too well how all
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  is lame wants is peace. That's why Afghanistan is such a
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  great, multifaceted country. That's why its government is so
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  well functioning. Because all Islam stands for is
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  peace and harmony. Oh, that's what you hear from
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  ambassadors, European diplomats and most college professors,
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  because they're not really professors anyway.
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  But what if I told you that Israel had already offered the
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  Palestinians a state of their own, and not just once, but on
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  five separate occasions? Don't believe me?
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  Let's review the record. So after the breakup, After the
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  breakup of the Ottoman Empire following World War One, Britain
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  took control of most of the Middle East, including the area
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  that constitutes the modern Israel. 17 years later, in the
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  1936, the Arabs rebelled against the British and against the
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  Jewish neighbours. The British formed a task force,
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  the Appeal Commission, to study the cause of the rebellion.
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  The Commission concluded, they've concluded back then that
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  the reason for the violence was that the two peoples, Jews and
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  Arabs wanted to govern the same land.
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  The answer they decided, the Peel Commission concluded, would
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  be to create two independent states, one for the Jews and one
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  for the for the downtrodden Arabs.
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  Because, you know, there's only a couple of Arabs, couple of
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  Arab nations, a couple of Muslim nations.
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  So we have to give them a bit more land.
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  So one for the Jews and one for the Arabs are two state
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  solution. Ah, so the first rejection.
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  The suggested split was heavily in favour of the Arabs.
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  The British offered them 80% of the disputed territory and the
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  Jews the remaining 20%. Yet despite the tiny size of
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  their proposed state, the Jews voted to accept the offer.
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  They voted to accept it, the Jews did.
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  But the Arabs rejected it and returned, resumed their
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  violence, rebellion. OK, so the second, the second
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  rejection will go through. OK, So 10 years later, in 1947,
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  the British asked the United Nations to find a new solution
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  to the continuing tensions. Like the Peel Commission, the UN
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  decided that the best way to resolve the conflict was to
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  divide the land. In November 1947, the UN voted
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  to create two states. So Israel was actually formed
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  officially in 19. The new modern state of Israel
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  formed in 1948, but so this is still going ahead leading up to
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  that formation. So 1947 they're trying they've
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  come the UN in all their wisdom because you know, they're so
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  great and wise. They said, hey, two state
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  solution. That's the answer.
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  I've never heard that before. OK, it's only been done tried
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  once before got rejected second time again the Jews accepted the
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  offer and again the Arabs rejected it.
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  Now I'll find I'll bring up another source here as well.
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  This is from historyskills.com says November 29, 1947, the UN
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  General Assembly voted on the partition plan.
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  It was approved with 33 votes in favour, 13 against, N10
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  abstentions. The Jewish leadership in
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  Palestine, seeing this as a pragmatic step towards realising
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  the dream of Jewish homeland, accepted the plan.
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  This is the two state solution plan, the second one.
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  However, the Arab leadership, both in Palestine and in the
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  surrounding Arab states, rejected the proposal, viewing
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  it as an imposition on the rights of the majority Arab
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  population in Palestine. The Declaration of the State of
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  Israel on May 14, 1948 was a momentous event, marking the
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  culmination of decades of Jewish nationalist aspirations and the
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  establishment of a Jewish homeland.
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  David Ben Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, made the
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  declaration in a ceremony held at Tel Aviv Museum.
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  OK, so The thing is, so they've called.
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  They've called that. So this happened in 1948.
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  So this was the 2nd rejection. The UN, the UN voted to create
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  22 states. Again the Jews accepted the
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  offer and again the Arabs rejected it.
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  Only this time they did not. They did so by launching an all
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  out war. This is the second rejection and
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  I believe the all out war happened just after in 1948 when
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  Israel was officially formed, I think it was in May 1948.
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  Jordan is Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria joined the
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  conflict, but they failed. They failed.
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  Israel could hardly think. Israel had a couple of real
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  crappy little planes. They weren't a proper, they
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  weren't a proper nation. They didn't have virtually
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  nothing. They have all these big nations
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  coming against them and what do you know, they lost.
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  All these countries lost, but they failed.
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  Israel won the war and got on with the business of building a
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  new nation. Most of the land set aside by
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  the UM foreign Arab state, the West Bank and E Jerusalem became
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  occupied territory occupied not by Israel but by Jordan.
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  O this twice, twice two state solution twice.
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  OK 3rd rejection. 20 years later, in 1967, the Arabs, led
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  this time by Egypt and joined by Syria and Jordan, once again
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  sought to destroy the Jewish state.
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  The 1967 conflict known as the Six Day War ended in a stunning
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  victory for Israel. Jerusalem and the West Bank, as
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  well as the area known as the Gaza Strip, fell into Israel's
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  hands. The government split over what
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  to do with this new territory. Half wanted to return the West
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  Bank to Jordan and Gaza to Egypt in exchange for peace.
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  That's what that's what the Israelis wanted to do.
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  The other half wanted to give it to the regions Arabs who had
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  begun referencing to themselves as the Palestinians.
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  Because before that they weren't Palestinians, they were Arabs.
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  Funny enough, in the hope so they're referencing themselves
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  as Palestinians in the hope that they would ultimately build
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  their own state there. Neither initiative got very far.
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  A few months later the Arab League met in Sudan and issued
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  its infamous three Nos. No peace with Israel, no
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  recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel again
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  as two state solution was dismissed by the Arabs.
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  Third time, 4th rejection. In 2000 Israel Prime Minister
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  Eihab Barack met at Camp David Camp Davids in America so it
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  Camp David with Palestinian Liberation Organisation chairman
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  NASA Arafat to conclude a new two state plan.
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  Barack offered Arafat a Palestinian state in all of Gaza
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  and 94% of the West Bank with E Jerusalem as its capital.
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  But the Palestinian leader rejected the offer in the words
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  of U.S. President Bill Clinton.
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  Bill Clinton aces Arafat was here 14 days and said no to
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  everything. No to everything.
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  Instead, the Palestinians launched a bloody wave of
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  suicide bombings that killed over 1000 Israelis and maimed
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  thousands more on buses, in wedding halls and in pizza
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  parlours. The 5th rejection in 2000 and
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  eight, 2008. OK, Israel tried yet again.
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  Prime Minister Ihad Omar went even further than Ihad Barack
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  had, expanding the peace officer, peace officer, the
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  peace offer to include additional land to sweeten the
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  deal. Like his predecessor, the new
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  Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas turned the deal down.
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  When these people come with this disingenuous offer, this denial,
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  disingenuous motion that the Greens put forward to recognise
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  Palestine as a state, the saying we must have a two state
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  solution. The Palestinian, these people
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  who call themselves, reference themselves as Palestinian, do
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  not want a A2 state solution. They want their normalisation of
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  Jews. That's why if you look at
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  history, that's why there's such a close connection to Muslims
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  and Nazis. They're, they're not being
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  honest with you and they're not being honest with themselves.
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  Either they don't know the truth or they do know the truth and
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  they're just lying. OK, My opinion is Senator Payman
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  is lying to the people of Australia.
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  She knows very well that the Palestinian people, the Arabs
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  who call themselves Palatines, Palestinians don't want a two
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  state solution. She knows very well because she
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  says from the river to the sea Palestine will be free.
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  She knows very well that all they want is the death and
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  destruction of the state of Israel.
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  Don't be fooled by the rhetoric coming from people like Payman
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  or the Greens. Anyway, that's my opinion.
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  I'm Jay Fallon. Thanks for listening to the
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