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How to Establish Multiple Residencies in the US and Beyond · Chatting with The Experts with Paula Okonneh

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Welcome everyone to another episode of Chatting with the Experts TV show where
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I speak with amazing women from Africa, from the Caribbean, and in the diaspora.
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These are professional women and successful entrepreneurial women, and
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they join me every week in spreading our mission, our joint mission,
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which is to educate women, empower women, and to inspire women globally.
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This week is no exception, and the topic today is Living Abroad:
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Steps to Establishing Multiple Residencies in the US and Abroad.
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I will tell you about my guest, Sabrina Brown, where she says, if you are curious
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about living abroad and interested in exploring your options to live outside the
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US but not showing how to formulate your plan and execute it, then she's the answer
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for your passport to international living.
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Sabrina is a 20 year real estate broker and realtor.
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She's an affiliate agent of ERA Live Moore, and she became a Certified
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International Property Specialist that's CIPS in 2020 to assist
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internationals seeking to establish residents in the United States.
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Interestingly, she has seen increased interest from US citizens curious about
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living and buying property abroad.
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And so that's what we are gonna be talking about.
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And with that, you know, I always say this, my guess bios are always so
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fabulous that I can't read everything.
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I'm gonna invite Sabrina to join us on Chatting with the Experts.
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Today, as I said, we are gonna be talking about Living Abroad: and
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Steps to Establishing Multiple Residencies in the US and more.
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So tell us how did you get into this and why are you thinking of expanding your
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real estate work to a global landscape?
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Yeah, really.
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Good question.
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I will say you highlighted a little bit how I flexed from welcoming
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internationals to the US to in reverse, where those were looking to expand
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their options and we'll talk a little bit about that I'm sure later in terms
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of what people are looking for abroad.
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But, I will say that, so that was kind of coincidental that I started
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to assist people, but for myself, I have always viewed, and as well
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as my children, we've always viewed ourselves as global citizens.
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So there's always been a curiosity about our neighbors abroad.
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And I have hosted so many internationals, even in my home over the tenure period.
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I've had like 13 people in a 10 year period who stayed with us and
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just, it was very fascinating to learn about the different cultures.
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But I professionally, if that's the question professionally,
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how I got involved.
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I started to get questions about people looking at retirement options,
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people looking at just adventures.
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They knew that I knew a lot about countries and that I had connections and
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worked with a lot of different people.
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So it was coincidental that I started to get these questions
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about US citizens, living abroad.
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And I never really thought about the model in that way.
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So I began to just go with it.
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I was privately pursuing it myself for all the reasons I had shared
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with you about my own curiosities, having a lens as a global citizen.
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And I had my target countries already and I never really looked
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at it as really being a value.
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People are very scared when they go into to these ventures and
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oftentimes they talk about it, but they never have an action plan and
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definitely never actually act on it.
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So, that's how it started.
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People started to ask me more and more questions and I began to take
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my work seriously in that direction.
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So I know in 2024, that's last year, you established and you're
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gonna have to, I don't know.
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S-B-R-A-S or is there, I mean, is it pronounced?
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Oh, it's short for Sabrina Brown Realty and Advisory Services,
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because it's a mouthful.
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So we say it's a mouthful.
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So we say SBRAS, right?
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Okay.
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Tho those who I work with, they know what SBRAS is, right?
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What is your question though about it?
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So you established it in 2024 to to do exactly what?
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Well 2024, we re began to do two things.
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One, we started to establish tours abroad to take people to
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have what we call a soft landing.
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A lot of times folks have culture shock when they make these leaps.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so if you have someone who can shepherd you through that process
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it just makes it a lot feasible for many and , they're able to get
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more clarity about what they want.
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And then the second thing is one-on-one consultation.
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And of course this year now we are gonna do a webinar, which again,
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we can chat a little bit about just to kind of expose people to some of
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these concepts in a little bit detail.
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But those are the two things.
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It's really starting to develop tours, group tours to bring people where they can
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kind of get a quick injection, have fun.
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We don't want it to be like being on a bus, you know,
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those can be kind of boring.
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But something that's fun, engaging.
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You feel like you are a local there, and yet you're getting infused with a
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lot of information along the way without often realizing how much you're learning.
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And then the one-on-ones where we sit with clients working on their
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action plan, what do they want?
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The globe is a lot to digest.
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It's intimidating for many people.
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So how do we align their goals to exactly what they want for
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themselves and the opportunities.
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And not only that for them, their families too, they're not always
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thinking of just themselves.
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So what are some of the common reasons you are here and because I
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know there's a heightened interest and because you've been doing SABRAS.
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Is this SABRAS?
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Sabrina Brown.
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Oh, you, Sabrina Brown Royalty.
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We'll keep it for short today.
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Oh, sure.
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Okay.
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Right.
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So what are some of the common reasons you're here and now with
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people wanting to live abroad?
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Well, certainly my perspective is gonna be from the us let me just say that.
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Correct.
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But this is nothing unique in terms of looking at these options abroad
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?There are numbers of contacts that I have, particularly for
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those who want to gain citizenship.
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There are other countries that have been tapping into that, but the US and
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Canada usually have been the largest market share of this type of market.
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And to be frank with you, many want options for themselves, okay?
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They want options.
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And we can't deny that some are a little uncomfortable with what
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they're seeing, and one can debate about the US unrest, but let's
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face it, it's not just the US only.
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There's a movement around the world.
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There's a more of a focus on nationalism today where the borders are
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beginning becoming a little tighter.
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It's not just the US thing that you're hearing on the TV.
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Yeah.
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So with that said, what would travel look like for someone
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who wants to have a long stay?
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Or if someone decides that, you know what?
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Gosh, my 401k got really hit hard.
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I might wanna do something and diversify and maybe in my golden years wanna
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stay somewhere a little bit longer.
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And thirdly the misnomer or the misunderstanding about the 180
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day visa for those who live in the us you would be shocked.
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Folks think, well, I'll just use my tourist visa 'cause I can go anywhere
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in the good portion of the country and I'll just go as a tourist.
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My friend, that is probably one thing.
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If anybody is thinking of that and you have thought about trying to
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live abroad for various reasons, I wanna tell you to pause right now.
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That is not a guarantee.
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Let me give you an example.
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Mexico, which is so close to me, and literally geographically
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close to us, those in the US.
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Someone had decided, oh, I'll just rent 90 days in Mexico.
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Got a, signed a lease for 90 days, got to the border and the immigration officer
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stamped her passport for 30 days only.
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She said, wait a minute.
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I thought I had 188 days.
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Oh, you're at the wishes of the immigration officer.
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Yes.
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Not everyone, this is not some hardcore, this has been kind of a shaking hands.
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This is not someone where you go to your embassy and they're gonna argue for
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you and you're gonna get your 180 days.
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Back and no one's gonna have a fight for you in that.
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And particularly with the climate changing, being able to go through
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the formal process in these various governments of your choice, where
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you see yourself expending sense staying an extended amount of time,
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it is an investment for yourself.
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'cause nothing's guaranteed.
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Also even in Europe, the same thing.
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I don't know if anyone's familiar with the Schengen zone, the Schengen area.
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This is a zone, for those who are not familiar with it.
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It's where they're 27 European countries and they're borderless.
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If you are an EU resident, European community resident, you are able to
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work and stay in any of the countries that's in the EU without a time limit.
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Okay, so here's now the US who says, I have my 180 days.
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Okay, this is how that works.
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In practice, you have to be out.
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You have 90 days of your 180 days.
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You see how it's up for interpretation, okay?
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You have 90 days.
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Say that again.
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Sorry, again.
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Say that again.
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You have 90 days.
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So you can only spend 90 days.
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Mm-hmm.
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Can a total within 180 days?
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'cause what people do is they border hop.
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Okay, I'll get out, I'll go somewhere, I'll get out of
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the zone and I'll come back.
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No, there.
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From the time you were depart to the time, you know, beginning to end,
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you have a hundred and you could only stay in that zone in the EU
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for 90 days, over 880 day period.
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So it takes into account you're border hopping.
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Okay.
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So, and if you violate that, it is quite severe.
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Not only finds penalties, you may be banned from traveling
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to the EU in the future.
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So it does pay to really spend time to study these country's
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immigration laws, if you're serious about it, to engage the right way.
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And I'm happy to talk.
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I don't wanna jump too far ahead 'cause I get a little excited about this stuff.
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No, please talk.
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I mean, we wanna learn.
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That's why we're here.
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Well, what I'm saying is that there are just so many ways to slice this as to,
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you know, how people might go about that.
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But I guess to suffice it to say is that for now, is that if there is
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assuming that the 180 day tourist visa that many of us have relied on freely
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in the past, that is not a guarantee.
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And trust me, with things becoming a little bit more tighter at the
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borders, even if you wanna enjoy extended stays, even if you have no
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interest to become a citizen in these places or permanent residents in these
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places, the freedom to move about, to have options to be a digital nomad.
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Which means you work in another country if you have an online job, but guess what?
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You sometimes, you may choose to be in a country that has a lower cost of living.
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Those are, again, going back to your initial question, these are the reasons
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why someone might want to go abroad.
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They're saving money and still making us dollars.
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They stretch their budgets that way.
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They're able to have a better quality of life in the end, but you cannot
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assume that the tourist visa will be able to do the trick in the end.
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So what I'm hearing from you is that we need to do a lot of research you know,
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COVID kind of lowered a lot of that border, you know, we just felt okay
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with Covid, especially the, the younger.
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My sister says, don't say young because we are still young.
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They're younger.
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Yes.
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I like that.
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Yes.
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They, a lot of them looked into that and continued even after Covid
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to, you know, be digital nomads.
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They were US citizens, but they live in Mexico.
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They live in somewhere in Europe.
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They're in Australia.
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But working for US based companies, or even, I mean non-US based companies being
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paid in US dollars and you know, for them, well that was just a new way of living.
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You are saying, in other words, one needs to look, do some more or do
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some in-depth research on where you want to be a digital nomad, a and find
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all the laws of the country there.
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Not assume.
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And they can change at any time.
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So I am interested in that.
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We use kind of that starting point digital nomad.
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Two things I wanna just kind of dispel some misunderstandings during covid.
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Yes, there was a time, and it's hard to really track
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exactly when, where they were.
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Some countries were lowering or made it easier for expats.
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We call 'em, you know, expatriates to come over to different
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countries to work remotely.
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But there were others who, let's say they actually had houses and they had
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done the border hop with their 180 days tourist visa for a long time.
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They came back because of covid and they could not return to
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their real home of residents.
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So let's say, in Panama, they would hop over to Costa Rica and then they
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would, or Nicaragua, if know Costa Rica and they would border hop basically
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to these and then come, go right back to their their place of residence.
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They couldn't get back to those countries because they had shut them down.
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They had never gotten their visa.
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Some of them were working off of.... In the case of the digital visa where
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they actually made an application, then it does depend on which
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country, but by and large it wasn't a guarantee even during those times.
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So what I'm saying, the takeaway is, and the point is don't rely
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on the loose way of doing things.
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You do wanna follow the formal process to control your destiny as much as you can.
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You do want to follow the following process.
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Yes.
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That's a really good point.
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Really good point.
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Mm-hmm.
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So as we are still talking about, I mean living abroad, exploring multiple
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residencies are there a list of countries, because that's a question I heard,
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are there a list of countries that are welcoming Americans to their homeland?
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Certainly.
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This is the biggest piece to, and when you think of welcoming, let's
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talk about what that really means.
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It does depend on your goal.
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Okay.
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So if your goal is to, I want to just get a baseline temporary residency
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for now, which may last a few years.
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Sometimes it could be as early as six months in some places to years.
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Mexico, for instance, has up to four years of temporary residency and then
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you become eligible for permanent status.
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Most of them have, and that's what I am referring to just now, and
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that's what I wanna point out, is the naturalization process.
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It's that's just one category.
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The second category I wanna share with you, and it just goes back
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to answer your question, it goes back to what your goals are.
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If you wanna be one and done and take care of your family, give options.
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Maybe it's security, maybe you're kind of uneasy with the political
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climates or whatever you're seeing or whatever that might mean to you, and
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you just wanna control that and have an option for your family Then, some
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people are also applying for what's called citizenship by investment.
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Okay.
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Also known as a more relaxed version.
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And there's so many tiers to this.
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To try to talk about immigration laws in one hour, it's a mouthful, but that's
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why we do tend to kind of do one-on-ones.
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But just to give you a flavor of it, these citizenship by investment one and
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done, this is fast track to residency.
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And these are places like Dominica.
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These are places like Antigua and Barbuda.
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A lot of those in the Caribbean, St. Vincent, they offer these fast tracks.
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In three months you can have citizenship.
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Now here's the catch.
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The catch is that they require a pretty steep investment.
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Yeah.
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Now these were not only meant to be the easiest, when you say
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welcoming, they were very welcoming.
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If you had, this is for high net worth buyers who can plop down maybe a
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hundred thousand dollars and get this.
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And again, I'm not judging, I'm just giving it out.
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'cause some people have the means to do it and I just don't
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blame 'em for being one and done.
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If you wanna be close to mainland US again, that's part of your decisions.
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That how far you wanna go.
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But for that one, they were very attractive and very welcoming
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because it only at one point took a hundred thousand dollars.
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And then last year there was a huge demand.
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It spiked, and all of them came together and decided to increase it to $200,000
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to $250,000 entry point for that.
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And that's US dollars?
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US dollars, I'm speaking in and you can accomplish this through
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donations to the government itself.
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You can accomplish this through, and sometimes they may have a slightly,
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if you do a straight donation then it could be a slightly lower level, but
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there's still, it's healthy six figures.
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And this is before you actually get your government sponsor
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provider that has to shepherd you through that level of the process.
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And we can talk about, but suffice it to say.
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You're looking at several hundred thousand dollars and you and a family
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of four can have all residencies.
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And it depends on which of those countries up to age 25.
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Some will tap out at 18 and 25.
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But if you have a toddler and you have means, you might find, oh my
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gosh, this is well over a decade for my children to have absolute
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unfettered access to this country.
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And then here's the other thing too.
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So, that's one tier.
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Okay.
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So lemme just point that out.
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Then there's another one.
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And keep me on track.
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Okay.
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Sometimes I go down in a hole on some of this stuff, so I
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know you keep me Paula on track.
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Yeah.
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So the other one is golden Visas.
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Now we've probably heard of golden visas.
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Maybe in just in your casual, those who find an interest in this.
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Now, some of them can lead to citizenship, like I mentioned.
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Certainly.
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But a lot of folks want to do it because it's easy access to get their residency.
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They don't have to do, like, for instance, like I did it the slow way.
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I did one step temporary residency, go back, renew step two, you
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know, during that process.
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Then after that permanent residency, right?
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They're going straight and you see a lot of the European countries, so you have
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Spain, Portugal, Italy, you know, a lot of those are gonna offer these golden visas.
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Well, coincidentally, Spain actually is going to retract its Golden
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visa and we'll talk about why they're doing that in a minute.
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'cause there's a little controversy with some of these because there
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are privileges associated with it.
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But these are the residencies that allow you still to invest in your
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own home though, which is good.
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So now, unlike in the Caribbean where you had to either give the government
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money, or you had to invest in a real estate that's was sponsored by one of
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their government sponsored providers, which you could stay in the real estate
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property, but you only have two weeks.
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Now they sell it as, oh, this income, you get X percentage of return.
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The reality is you only can stay there for two weeks.
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The rest of the time it's just a vehicle for them to use your money
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to help build up their economy, which is not a bad thing if it meets your
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goals, but that's just one segment.
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So back to Golden Visa.
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Now, most commonly used in Europe.
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Those allow you within sometimes weeks.
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Now Portugal, many people have been very curious about Portugal.
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Okay.
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That was, I have to tell you, was not always an easy way to get to Portugal.
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Now, Portugal allows you to buy a residency of your own choice.
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And if you're gonna live there, you're like, that's a win.
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Okay?
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A real estate investment, or you can have a business.
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And there are so many other qualification or categories to gain access.
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And now, you can have this accomplished in a matter of
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weeks, not years in their...
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that's called Portugal?
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For Portugal.
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This changed just last year.
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But it was not an easy, when people kept talking about Portugal.
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Portugal, and I'm like, guys, you don't realize this is a very hard country.
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Until recently, they see the opportunity, they've loosened up their requirements.
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Now here's the catch.
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There's always a catch to some of these, and this is only again, giving
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you strategy number two as a point of reference for you to watch out for
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when you are examining these countries.
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And it is stay requirements.
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The reason why, well, folks were talking about Portugal, but I
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knew there was no way that most people could ever access Portugal,
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because there's stay requirements.
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Yes, you could invest in it.
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Yes, you can get the golden visa, but you have to stay there six months every year.
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I mean, that's virtually retired for most people.
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Yeah.
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Who can do that?
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Now, just last year they updated and you only have to touch down
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once a year, every seven days.
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Okay.
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Now that's in play for a lot of people.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Go back on that.
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You have to go there once, every seven days?
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Is that what you said?
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You have to stay seven days.
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Okay.
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They, we call it stay requirement.
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Okay.
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So when you are analyzing these countries, the question you should
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be asking yourself is not just the entry point of what the headlines
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might say, oh, easy to come here.
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What I found welcoming is that can I feasibly be there?
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I still work.
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I can't be, I'm still transacting as a broker in the US.
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I can't stay anywhere for six months at a time.
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I would've abandoned my business physically.
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Yes.
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So what I study is, and reason why I had, was attracted to
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Mexico and Panama is because the stay requirements were minimal.
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Ah,
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okay?
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I got you now.
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And so the stay requirements for Portugal has loosened up.
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Now they're seven days a year and then you still can progress to
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your track to permanent residency.
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Now again, the other thing that I can, I'm sorry.
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You see me looking to the side?
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'cause I'm taking notes.
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Yeah, yeah, no problem.
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No problem.
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And so the other thing you want to think about too is as you progress, 'cause
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at some point you're gonna get tired of doing these applications and renewals.
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So you gotta find out what's my terminal, what's my end point?
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If in fact, let's just say hypothetically you want to be a citizen, then
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you gotta think about, oh my gosh, what are the language requirements?
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You do realize in those countries they want you to
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speak the language functionally.
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Yes.
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A working knowledge.
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No offense, but I have no interest to learn Portuguese.
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I'm struggling enough for Spanish.
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I am a survivor Spanish speaker.
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I can get the job done.
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But I'm just saying you have to be mindful of that and that's that.
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So, then do I really want citizenship?
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Am I okay with permanent residency?
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I don't need to have to vote.
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I have all the other benefits of being a resident there, but I can't vote.
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I can't serve in the military.
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I can't do these things, but I have access to the healthcare
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system and that may be good enough for you, depending on your goals.
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Again, so when we say which countries are welcoming, it
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really comes with a big asterisk.
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Well, what do you mean by that?
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Do you mean that in terms of the affordability?
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Do I mean in terms of security?
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You know, and so affordability, another one.
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If anyone has any interest in, for instance, Asia.
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I mean Thailand is extremely cheap.
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It doesn't really cost that much.
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I mean, you have $20,000 US dollars to...
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Really?
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Yeah.
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For Thailand to get started, to invest in the country.
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Now, don't get me wrong, I mean, it's not like I'm wired 'cause I'm in real estate.
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Everything has to be an investment for me, right?
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Because I just felt wired.
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I agree.
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So for me to just donate something to a government is a mind shift.
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But you also have to say to yourself, maybe investment is different than,
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for instance, how I'm defining it.
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I'm looking at assets.
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Maybe my investment is freedom.
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My investment is to have options for my family.
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And some of them will take you and your family.
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Some of them will limit.
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For instance, when I was looking at some of the Antigua
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and Barbuda in the Caribbean.
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Like they will require, oh yeah, I'll take you.
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But then like your 25-year-old adult son, he has to have his own application
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or he's gonna get, at the time it was a hundred thousand dollars.
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Where are you gonna get a hundred thousand dollars to give to a government?
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Nobody.
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Okay.
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He would, you know, oh, I'm not gonna foot it, the bill for him.
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But talk about Bermuda.
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Let me ask you, so is what you're saying is that, they will accept
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you as a family as long as your children are under a certain age.
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After that...
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correct.
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Then they got
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... correct.
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And they're independent investors.
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Correct.
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So that's your biggest bang for the buck.
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That is your biggest bang.
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Maybe this is not an application, a nominal fee, but you don't get
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treated like an individual applicant if your children are under 25.
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They take you plus a family of four is how they call it.
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So really good.
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You know, value there.
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But yes, after that, they would have to be their own after 20, when they reach 25,
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then they have to apply them themselves.
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So they're, yeah.
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Ooh.
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So you as the parent, you have citizenship.
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But the kids, and I knew that too.
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So in Panama, actually, I have permanent residency in Panama.
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And so we can also talk about if you like, how that works too.
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There's another classification.
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So now you can buy your way through.
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Okay?
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You can invest yourself, invest in the government in the local real
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estate or have a business demonstrate.
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Same thing with Canada.
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Actually, you can start a business.
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People think that... Canada's a hard one 'cause people are
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like, oh, you know my everything.
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I'll just go to Canada.
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Oh, my friend.
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That is not as easy as one might think.
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That's an eyeopener.
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I thought it was just, you know, we're neighbors, so hey.
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Oh no.
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And particularly now with all the tension that's going on, it's
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even, you know, but they're just.
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If anything, anyone, if I press upon you is like, can I do this?
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Absolutely.
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Is this across the board uniform?
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No, it is not.
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It's very intricate.
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You have to know which classification.
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Just like we have so many different, you know, work visas, investment.
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The EB-5 in the US was obviously that's being replaced or talked about
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being replaced, but that's in the US when you, similarly, same thing.
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I would used to put a million dollars and demonstrate that I have gonna produce
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jobs in the US and all those that would come abroad, they would get residency for
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themselves in their children so they can go to school and have the same luxuries.
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Right.
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So what these countries are asking is no different than we've asked of them.
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So when you look at, again, Canada is not as easy as it may seem.
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You have to be sponsored basically by a province.
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Okay.
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That's what if you don't have, and this goes to another
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classification, is by descent.
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If you have a descent or my husband is Jamaican, so my kids are
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eligible for citizenship by descent.
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I am eligible for citizenship by marriage, for instance.
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So there's that.
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But going back to Canada, you can, and we were talking about job creation, so
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you can demonstrate that to a country.
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Same thing from Europe and same thing with Canada.
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And that's also probably the easier access to get into something to
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Canada is if you legitimately have, and it has to be well documented.
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We can talk about that later.
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But the bottom line is that there are many ways to cut at that,
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but by and large, because they're neighbors, they're not easy.
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They're not easy to get into.
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They're pretty, pretty darn strict, in fact.
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So if you're not looking at these golden visas that we were talking about in Europe
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to get stay focused, then the other way that people, when I was leading into
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topic wise before we sidebar in Canada, was that there's these other statuses
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of what's called economic solvency.
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You're like, country X, Y, Z. I'm not here to work.
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I'm not here to take any jobs away.
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I basically wanna go through your naturalization process.
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I wanna hang out and I'm gonna show you I'm not gonna take any jobs.
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I have my own income, I have my pension, I have my own income here.
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I'm gonna show you.
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I have the means to provide and frankly help your economy by being a consumer.
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I just wanna stay in return for that.
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And that is now to go back to your larger question, what is more welcoming?
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Now we have a lot of the Latin countries.
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You can go up down that board.
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You got now Panama, you got Mexico, you have Costa Rica, you have
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all down that whole corridor.
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It's a lot more welcoming if you understand.
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That's my entree to get in there to show.
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They call them in because it's Spanish speaking countries.
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They call it the Pensionado.
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Most of them have the same language.
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I'm looking for the pensionado visa.
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The pensionado would be a track for you in order to get that
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type of admission to the country.
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You know what, Sabrina, we could talk for, you've got a wealth of information
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and so I know so many people are have joined and they wanna ask you question.
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There are two things I'm gonna ask you to do.
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Yeah.
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Please play in the chat about my seminar coming up that we can talk about that.
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Yes, that's what I was gonna say.
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I want everyone to know that Sabrina is available.
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She's gonna be having a seminar coming up soon.
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I'm gonna put the link in the chat here.
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Yeah.
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May 3rd.
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It'll be May 3rd, correct?
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It's on May 3rd.
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Yep.
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At what time?
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I believe it's at 10 to 11:30.
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But don't trust me.
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Please eastern time.
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Please look at the invitation.
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I don't wanna misquote.
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It's on my calendars.
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All I know.
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I don't handle that I have a helper, but yes.
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May 3rd.
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All right.
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It's yes, it is May 3rd.
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I'm looking at it right now.
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It's from 11 to 12:30, EDT.
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Okay.
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And it's virtual of course.
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Yes, virtual.
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Yes.
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Yes, yes.
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And that will help someone to formulate their action plan.
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It's not the same as a one-on-one, but it's a good start to kind of
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really think about the things that are important to you on this topic.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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So now we know about the event that's coming up on May 3rd.
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For those who are gonna be looking at this because it's being recorded
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Mm-hmm.
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How can they get in touch with you in general.
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If they miss the May 3rd?
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Not that we want them to, but how can they get in touch with you?
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I'm sure you have a website.
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Absolutely.
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So, I mean, my information's all in the public domain 'cause I'm a real
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estate broker, so if you want to write me personally, it's Sabrina,
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S-A-B-R-I-N-A, and you can put it in the chat at sbrbrokers.com.
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And sbrbrokers.com is the domain and, certainly if you just wanna,
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it's more general stuff about me.
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Some things Paula spoke about today about my profile will be on there,
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my team, but I think just directly, if you wanna gain access sbr
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brokers.com, sabrina@sbrbrokers.com is my email address.
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Okay.
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I'll put that in.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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Are you on LinkedIn?
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I am, but you know how I am.
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I'm challenged, Paula, you know, you have to ask my assistant.
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He manages all that.
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I have to focus on just client work.
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I don't handle a lot of that, but we'll put that in the, I think he had
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shared that with you that link too.
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He did.
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You can, if you don't mind putting yes, I am on LinkedIn.
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Okay.
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You're on LinkedIn.
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On you on Facebook.
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I was afraid you were gonna ask me for my handle or something.
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I don't have that.
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No.
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A lot of that can be pulled from your website.
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I'll put this in the chat.
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Thank you so much.
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I appreciate you.
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Sure.
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And of course I say to everyone, if you have enjoyed what you
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just heard, who wouldn't?
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You'd like to be a guest on the show, please reach out to me on my website.
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It's chattingwiththeexperts.com.
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I'm on LinkedIn as well as Paula Okonneh.
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I also am on Instagram and my handle there, I struggle with that handle too.
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Always have to think about it.
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It's at chat_experts_podcast, and I am also on Facebook.
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It's Paula Okonneh and I have my business page now, which
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is Chatting with the Experts.
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Last but not least.
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We have a YouTube channel, please reach out to us there as well.
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And whenever we do these shows, we put them out on the audio podcast.
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It's on YouTube and it's on all the other audio directories, and of course Spotify.
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And now, I mean, Sabrina, you've told us a wealth of information, but what
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I'm gonna do is open up the floor so that everyone who joined us will
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have an opportunity to speak with you because oh my gosh, we could be
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here for two hours and not get bored.
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Oh, no question.
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The webinar is all about.
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Absolutely.
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They can ask you a lot of questions that you were able... some you
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were able to touch on today, but of course you couldn't do everything.
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So, we will open up the floor now.
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Everyone who joined.
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Thank you again, Sabrina.
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You welcome.