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The Big Show With James Harrison of the Trust NZ Party · The Hauraki Big Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, one of the cardinal rules of the big show
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  Speaker 1: is we don't do politics, do we, fellas?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: We steer well, well clear of it. But we've been
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  Speaker 1: intrigued with the elections coming up. with a party that's
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  Speaker 1: sort of burst onto the scene, really, called Trust New Zealand.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got one of their candidates in here because
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  Speaker 1: we've been quite fascinated off-air by their policies, which, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you could view.
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  Speaker 3: As quite revolutionary.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got James Harrison from Trust New Zealand in
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 2: G'day.
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  Speaker 3: G'day, James.
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  Speaker 2: How are you going?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well, I'm tickety-boo and Fanny McAdams. I'm fantastic, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff. James, tell us a bit about your.
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  Speaker 2: You know, your policies you've got here, mate, because we've
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  Speaker 2: seen a bit of them online, all that sort of
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  Speaker 2: carry on. And I think we can all agree that
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  Speaker 2: whatever's sort of happening at the moment, it's not really working.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a little bit of radical thinking is required.
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  Speaker 2: And it seems like you guys are sort of chasing
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  Speaker 2: that idea.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Radical thinking is sort of the cornerstone of any
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand, what do you say, innovation. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that we are innovative. True fact. So we do have
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  Speaker 3: two cornerstone policies, one, Me and my co-chair Harriet, we
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  Speaker 3: came up with them together one late night over a
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  Speaker 3: bit of soju.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there's soju.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nice.
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  Speaker 3: But we've got two main policies that we think will
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  Speaker 3: hit deep into the heart of New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: These two policies are such as follows. Number one, anyone
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  Speaker 3: who is under 30, we deeply encourage you to not vote,
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  Speaker 3: to unenroll in fact. So if there's anyone out there
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  Speaker 3: listening today who's maybe a little bit too young, doesn't
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  Speaker 3: quite have a closed frenulum or whatever you call it,
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  Speaker 3: maybe just unenrolled from voting.
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  Speaker 2: So what is the story there? Because obviously that's going
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  Speaker 2: to rankle a few people. Young people have sort of
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  Speaker 2: an inclination to get offended easily, I think you would say.
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  Speaker 2: So what's the sort of the thinking behind that? You
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  Speaker 2: say don't vote if you're under 30. How do you
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  Speaker 2: come to that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I read a statistic that in your lifetime, you've
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  Speaker 3: only got 20 opportunities to vote. That's a true fact.
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  Speaker 2: True fact.
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  Speaker 3: Only 20 opportunities to vote in your lifetime. Yes. And
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  Speaker 3: so many young people are on track just to not
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  Speaker 3: use any of those. And I say, why stop there?
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  Speaker 3: Just continue not voting. And it's because you don't get it,
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  Speaker 3: do you? I'm sure we were all young once.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's right. I mean, I remember me in my 20s.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been a pointless vote from my point
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  Speaker 1: of view because I didn't know what the hell was
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  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's often the thing, isn't it? And it's strange that,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even Socrates said that democracy is a sort
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  Speaker 2: of a waste of pursuit because... You know, the uneducated
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  Speaker 2: get the same amount of votes as the educated or
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's spent their whole lives investigating something. They both
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  Speaker 2: get a vote. And how can that be fair?
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  Speaker 3: Completely what you just said.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Socrates.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other things, policies I see there, and
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm right in saying this, James. Go on.
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  Speaker 1: If you own two homes, you get two votes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's our second cornerstone policy. Yeah, that's great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just simple myth, really. If you get one house,
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  Speaker 3: you get one vote. If you have two houses, you
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  Speaker 3: get two votes.
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  Speaker 4: Does that keep going?
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  Speaker 3: Up to however many. We haven't really put a capstone
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  Speaker 3: on it yet. Right.
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  Speaker 4: How many houses have you got, James?
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  Speaker 3: I prefer not to talk about my personal life on
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  Speaker 3: the radio. Let's keep it professional, gentlemen. 60.
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  Speaker 2: So that being the case then, people will say, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. But what I like about that as a
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  Speaker 2: policy is it actually encourages people to work hard so
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  Speaker 2: that they can get a home so that then they've
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  Speaker 2: got the opportunity to vote. At the moment, there's no
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  Speaker 2: real motivation. There's nothing driving people.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: To actually get out there, work hard, buy a house
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  Speaker 2: so that they can vote, because you get that for free.
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  Speaker 3: You feel like you might be a two-ticks-orange kind of guy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, man. I mean, this is the thing, right?
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  Speaker 2: It does make sense when you look closely at it.
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  Speaker 3: The scape of New Zealand politics today is a dangerous,
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  Speaker 3: deadly environment, and you've got to work hard for what
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  Speaker 3: you want. It's always been the Kiwi way.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, mate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, listen.
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  Speaker 1: Another policy, which I think is really interesting because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of our listeners actually are renters.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And I see one of your policies is if you
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  Speaker 1: put nails in the wall or scuff the floors, you
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  Speaker 1: should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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  Speaker 1: Is that something you're obviously quite passionate about?
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  Speaker 3: Now, I do have to come clean. Normally, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: allowed out the house without Tevin, my wonderful, wonderful head
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  Speaker 3: of staff or whatever he does to sort of control
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  Speaker 3: the narrative. But I'll have a go at talking to that. Listen,
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  Speaker 3: if you have scuffed your house or done a little
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  Speaker 3: doo-doo or, I don't know, done something terrible inside of it,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's bloody fair that you pay back what
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  Speaker 3: you did. Don't you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: To the law, surely, James, it's a bit full on.
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  Speaker 4: Jail time, is that what you're suggesting?
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  Speaker 3: I think we should bring back flinging. Flinging? What's flinging?
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  Speaker 3: It's when you fling someone as far as they'll possibly go.
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  Speaker 4: So you just throw them?
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: You toss them?
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  Speaker 3: Sort of, you know, slingshots. Build a giant one of
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  Speaker 3: those and get fired for how much money. Each dollar
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  Speaker 3: of damage is equal to a metre.
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  Speaker 4: And would you be personally tossing these people?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I don't have the upper body strength, mate.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, that's good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: The Hauraki Big Show, weekdays from 4 on Radio Hauraki.
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  Speaker 1: You know how good the Hauraki Big Show podcast is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love those fellas. Backbone. Yeah, backbone. You get it.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to get around the live radio show. Oh, you?
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  Speaker 2: When's that?
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  Speaker 3: Four to seven weekdays on Radio Hauraki and iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Backbone. Nice.
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  Speaker 3: The Hauraki Big Show podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We've got politician James Harrison from the new party that's
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  Speaker 1: out there at the moment, Trust New Zealand. Can I
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  Speaker 1: say that the sense I'm getting from your party, James,
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  Speaker 1: is kind of no-nonsense, old-school kind of thinking.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we brook no-nonsense and we love schools, old schools
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  Speaker 3: in particular. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: James, one of your sort of policies here is that
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  Speaker 4: you're promising a 100% fuel rebate for those over 60.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Which is great.
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  Speaker 3: It's fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: But 100% fuel tax for those under 30.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that goes far enough?
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  Speaker 4: Hmm. That's a good question. Like it's a bold plan.
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  Speaker 4: Under 30s won't be interested in that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, under 30, have you ever heard, maybe you've heard
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  Speaker 3: the phrase respect your elders.
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  Speaker 2: Ever heard of that? Yes, I have, James.
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  Speaker 3: I think this society needs to respect their elders much
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  Speaker 3: more and we're missing just a great section of Support
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  Speaker 3: from the youngsters. So all these young people who are
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  Speaker 3: getting out of there and really sticking it to themselves
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  Speaker 3: and really contributing and all that jazz, I think that
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  Speaker 3: they should just really stuck in. Maybe we bump it
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  Speaker 3: up to 200 on both ends. Yeah, well, why not?
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  Speaker 2: That is an interesting thing. I guess a fuel rate
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  Speaker 2: rebate and attack sort of leads into your policies around
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  Speaker 2: the environment as well.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, don't get me started.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bit of a hot topic at the moment,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, hot like climate change.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. But your policy is no environmental action needed.
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  Speaker 2: Don't fight the future.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. It's sort of like a boat rising on
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  Speaker 3: the sea levels. As they rise, just don't fight it.
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  Speaker 3: Swim with it. Float with it. You're not right.
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  Speaker 2: Just let it happen. Yes. Well, as you say here
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  Speaker 2: in your policy, sorry, James.
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  Speaker 3: No, please.
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  Speaker 2: Let the rain come.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Those who count will float to the top.
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  Speaker 3: Completely right. Yes. It's all about the people who have
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  Speaker 3: the ability to swim. Yes. Or jet skis. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: What about Jase here? He can't swim, James.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I can dog paddle, Keezy. He can doggy paddle.
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  Speaker 1: And I can float like a starfish on my back.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have access to a sailboat?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't, funnily enough. But I was suggesting to
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  Speaker 1: the fellas a couple of days ago that we all
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  Speaker 1: invest in a yacht that we could, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: big show. Just go and visit the bays around the
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  Speaker 1: Hauraki Gulf there.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like a fantastic investment if you ask me.
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  Speaker 4: James, do you have a yacht?
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  Speaker 3: I do not want to talk about my personal life.
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  Speaker 3: I could not make that clearer. Some things are off
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  Speaker 3: the record, yes.
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  Speaker 1: How are you and your party? Because, you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of the big catchphrases at the moment is affordability.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And people going to the supermarket and they're going, jeez,
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  Speaker 1: a block of cheeses, $ 18? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what's your thoughts on that sort of stuff?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't do the shopping myself, so... Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know how bad it could be. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What is the price of a banana these days? $ 10?
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  Speaker 2: That's often the question that they ask politicians, isn't it,
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  Speaker 2: to see if they're out of touch or not. How
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  Speaker 2: much is a litre of milk? How much is a
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  Speaker 2: loaf of bread?
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  Speaker 3: I definitely touch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's the thing. But for you, you don't
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  Speaker 2: apologise for the fact that you've never had any idea
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 3: Look, at the end of the day, food's food, and
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  Speaker 3: you're going to get it. So that's it. I like it.
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  Speaker 4: James, just before we let you go, mate, do you
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  Speaker 4: have any skeletons in your closet that the audience needs
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  Speaker 4: to know about?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I had two skeletons that I used
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  Speaker 3: for a Halloween party this October. Oh, my God. I
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  Speaker 3: really go with ghosts, witches or skeletons. I really believe
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  Speaker 3: in the classic. I think Halloween needs to get back
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  Speaker 3: to the basics.
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  Speaker 2: In fact.
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  Speaker 3: You're getting a live exclusive one. New party policy. Halloween
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  Speaker 3: back to basics. Everyone is ghosts, skeletons or witches. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: Before you go, man, a final message to any potential
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  Speaker 2: voters out there.
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  Speaker 3: If you're under 30, unenroll. Your vote's not worth it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get it. If you're over 30, two ticks
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  Speaker 3: orange and go me and everyone else in the party.
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  Speaker 1: Well, James Harrison from Trust New Zealand, we appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Your time, mate.
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  Speaker 3: All the best for the election. Oh, thanks so much
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  Speaker 3: for having me on Radio Harakiri. It's great to be here,
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  Speaker 3: great to be alive and I love New Zealand.