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- 0:01Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning. From Monday May six, I'm your host Tom
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- 1:29of the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast. Hello everyone, welcome to the Skull Session
- 1:34Recruiting Podcast, brought to you by Buckeye Huddle dot com. I am Mark
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- 4:06Kevin, let's I guess we can go in chronological order here a little
- 4:10bit. We stopped in West Virginia on our way down at Hurricane High School,
- 4:15one of the best programs in the state of West Virginia for a top
- 4:16one hundred offensive lineman Dern Parks in the twenty twenty sixth class. Doran's been
- 4:20to Ohio State twice already. He's gonna be back up in the summer.
- 4:24His team is doing the seven on seven thing at Ohio State in June,
- 4:28so he's gonna come up with this team and visit Ohio State while that's going
- 4:30on. I got I got great vibes from Doran on his interest in Ohio
- 4:35State. What did you think? Yeah, I mean, really impressive kid.
- 4:39You've got to remember he still has a little bit more time to go.
- 4:43He's not. You know, this isn't a last twenty five guy,
- 4:46a big, big body, I mean, just really good kid, and
- 4:50he grew up liking Ohio State and we understand how that goes. Everybody eventually
- 4:58has to get to the business decision point of all of this, and childhood
- 5:01fandom kind of you know, has to be set aside. But he talked
- 5:05about watching the game and before he even really knew who was who, he's
- 5:10like, well, I like the red team, and that's kind of carried
- 5:13on since so the red team being the Buckeyes, are in a really good
- 5:17position there. I mean there's a lot of proximity. Ohio State has tried
- 5:21to reach out into West Virginia in the offensive line sweepstakes before mixed success,
- 5:28lack of success. But I think with de Ron Parks, I mean long
- 5:30ways to go. So I'm not putting any sort of of magical orb of
- 5:35wonderment involved in this. That's I know, patent pending, Mark Gibler,
- 5:40But I really like Ohio State's chances. Yeah, I think they're off to
- 5:44a great start. You get the childhood fandom thing, you know. The
- 5:47one thing he mentioned to us before we went on cameras that Ohio State's actually
- 5:51the closest major program to his house. They're actually a little bit closer than
- 5:56Morgantown where West Virginia is, so in summer specs, they're kind of the
- 6:01local school. It's only two hour drive. Again, he's been up there
- 6:05a couple times. He plans to get up there several more June for sure.
- 6:10And then he said he you know, he's never been nor an Ohio
- 6:12State game as a recruit, so he wants to go do that this fall.
- 6:17So we'll be seeing him on campus a few more times. The thing
- 6:20I like about him, in addition to just being a really good player,
- 6:24is he would fit in well with kind of what they're recruiting right now.
- 6:28So you've got the big three in Ohio in twenty six. That's Will Conroy,
- 6:32Sam Greer, Max Riley. Conroy's a center, Greer's a tackle.
- 6:38Riley could be tackle or guard. He could. He's kind of a Luke
- 6:42Montgomery type of body. He can kind of go either direction there, and
- 6:46so could Parks. So you've got four players there. I know they don't
- 6:49have commitments for many of them yet, but you've got four players there who
- 6:53you possibly lead for who are within a two hour radius of your campus,
- 6:57who can all play together. You're not eling spots from each other. So
- 7:02look, I I'm probably been captain negative on Ohio State offensive line recruiting over
- 7:08the years, but I'm gonna say right now that they've got a chance to
- 7:11sign their best offensive line class in years in twenty twenty six, maybe since
- 7:15the Brew Crew, and quite frankly, I could concoct a scenario that would
- 7:19make a better class than the Brow Crew. I think if you go you
- 7:25start to pull like a Champ Smith into there from Vero Beach, Florida,
- 7:28who you know, his buddy TJ. Alford's committed in twenty five as a
- 7:31linebacker and who's basically told me Ohio State leads you get like five guys like
- 7:38that, you're not you know, that's not that's not three guys, and
- 7:42then you kind of whiff on a couple others. I mean that is a
- 7:44full fledged offensive that's five dudes. I mean, that's that's a monster hall.
- 7:48So I think they are well positioned. And I say that almost with
- 7:54some hesitation, because you know, I don't want to be It's recruiting,
- 7:58Yeah, it's it's recruiting. It's offensive line recruiting at Ohio State. But
- 8:01I've never been the guy who has been like, oh, this is going
- 8:03to be the year they I've always kind of been the guy I got to
- 8:07see it to believe it. And I'm starting to believe what I'm seeing and
- 8:11hearing from these twenty twenty six guys. So I know that's a year off
- 8:13and people are like, what about twenty five, But we'll get to that
- 8:16in a minute. But you know, I think they're in great shape there.
- 8:20I think there again, I think they lead for the Ohio guys.
- 8:22I think they lead for parks. Now, it's not going to just be
- 8:24Ohio State. I was told kind of Tennessee, Florida State, a couple
- 8:28schools to watch. West Virginia. Obviously it's not going to let him go
- 8:31without a fight. But look, they're in good shape so far, and
- 8:35we'll just see how that relationship continues to grow here as he gets on campus
- 8:39a few more times. Yeah, I mean, then going back to the
- 8:41brew crew class, they missed out on a West Virginia aligneman at the last
- 8:46second with Josh Jenkins, So I think it really could be a great class.
- 8:52A lot of people are very, you know, very lukewarm on Justin
- 8:56Fry at this point because these monster classes have not been happening yet. Have
- 9:01some patience. I mean, obviously what happens with the class of twenty five
- 9:05is going to dictate a lot of what people are thinking there. But twenty
- 9:09six looks like it's shaping up to be a tremendous one for Ohio state.
- 9:13And it goes back even into like the Trustle years where the state of Ohio
- 9:18was producing so many players at key positions like that. And when you have
- 9:22that, it's a lot easier to go into Cleveland and recruit alignment Sam Greer
- 9:28than it is to go into Cleveland, Tennessee and try and pull somebody away
- 9:33from the University of Tennessee or whoever. So things are shaping up well for
- 9:37twenty six. But you said it, people also have a lot of focus
- 9:41on twenty five. Now they got focused on twenty four because they think that
- 9:45they still need to go and look at the portal for offensive line. So
- 9:48you know, it's if anybody was one hundred percent, I mean, even
- 9:52the great Nick Saban didn't land everybody he wanted to land. It's just it's
- 9:56recruiting. It's a soap opera and you you have to stick with because you
- 10:00just don't know. Yeah, Fry has yet to kind of make that big
- 10:03out of state splash that I think people want to see from an Ohio State
- 10:07offensive line coach. What I will say to his credit is under the previous
- 10:15offensive line coach, even recruiting Ohio was very hit and miss. Jackson Carmen
- 10:20Z Correll, Nick Saymac JD. Du Plaine. There's another kid that went
- 10:28to Clemson as well. Oh I can't from northeast Ohio. I'm growing a
- 10:33blank on that. Blake Miller. Blake Miller. So in Fry's defense and
- 10:37I and I agree with the fan base, he needs to, you know,
- 10:41he needs to get out there and make a splash. You know,
- 10:43all the other assistants have been able to kind of do that at their positions.
- 10:48It's time that Ohio State, which should be able to recruit offensive lineman,
- 10:52does that. But there haven't been the embarrassing and state misses. You
- 10:56know, he's kind of he's he's handled Ohio and now like the next phase
- 10:58of him kind of taking that next step as a recruiter is to go get
- 11:03someone doron Parks Champ Smith, David Sanders, let's get into that five star
- 11:13offs of tackle. David Sanders very quietly made his way to Columbus this weekend.
- 11:20We are down in Charlotte, so we may have some more insight on
- 11:24that one here in a couple in the next day or two, so kind
- 11:26of stay tuned on that. But I've been there not getting David Sanders guy.
- 11:33The last visit went well. I mean, I have to admit the
- 11:35last visit went well and I still had Clemson in the lead. Well,
- 11:39now he's making a little quiet under the radar visits to Ohio State in May.
- 11:43He'll be back in June for an official I believe they're going to be
- 11:46his last official Kevin, are you starting to feel this one or are we
- 11:52still still preaching caution here? Well, and let's not forget that he also
- 11:58was on campus in April. Oh, he goes in April, he goes
- 12:01in May, and then he's going to have an official visit in June.
- 12:05I posted something on the huddle board earlier on Sunday about I'm not quite ready
- 12:13to push all my chips in on this one yet, but I am moving
- 12:16out of the Ohio State has just a hat on the table type of situation.
- 12:20Obviously, with a lot of other schools, there's much more proximity,
- 12:24but it's only a six hour drive from Charlotte proper to Columbus. I've done
- 12:31the drive a thousand times. Mark's done the drive a thousand times, having
- 12:35family and in laws in the Charlotte area, so it is not the worst
- 12:39drive in the world. I think Ohio State is emerging. I would definitely
- 12:43have them trending up. I'm not ready. I guess I would probably still
- 12:50take the field, but I don't think that there's a single school that I
- 12:54would say he's going there. I mean, I felt that it was going
- 12:56to be Clemson, and now I'm not so sure. So I'm going to
- 13:01take the field against any given school. But in the last twenty four hours,
- 13:05I think that my percentages for Ohio States shot there have greatly improved.
- 13:13Top when his top five came out, I had Ohio State is like either
- 13:16five or like tied for fourth with South Carolina, and I don't think there's
- 13:22any question they're better than that. Now now are they one or two?
- 13:26We'll see. Clemson remains a very very big factor there. Georgia you always
- 13:35have to take seriously, and that's not a far drive from Charlotte to get
- 13:39to Athens, so that's gonna be hammered home. I think what Ohio State's
- 13:41done, though, is they've done a really good job of sort of debunking
- 13:48the distance from home thing to an extent. I mean, it's not any
- 13:54it's not any more difficult really to get to Columbus than it is to get
- 13:58to Athan's Georgia or Tuscaloose, Alabama. You know, now Columbia, South
- 14:03Carolina of course, that's you know, if you want to stay close to
- 14:07home, you're gonna go South Carolina. That's that's the one that's kind of
- 14:09right down the road. But you know, Clemson of course as well,
- 14:11not too far. But I think they've done a good job of saying,
- 14:15like, look, you're gonna you know, what's the difference between a five
- 14:18hour drive and a six hour drive or a four and a half hour drive
- 14:20and a six hour drive. You're gonna be in the car a good chunk
- 14:22of the day either way. You know. Cheap flights on American Airlines direct
- 14:28from Charlotte to Columbus, you're up and down in an hour, if you
- 14:31want to go that route. I mean, I think they've done a good
- 14:33job of explaining that to him, because I think David likes a lot of
- 14:35things about Ohio State, and I think he likes the depth chart because if
- 14:39you're if you're Ohio State, what you're telling David right now from a playing
- 14:43time perspective is, if Simmons goes pro after this year, you could actually
- 14:48start as a true freshman. If Simmons doesn't go pro after this year,
- 14:52you are basically coming in for a year. You're in the two deep,
- 14:56you're playing, we're getting you in games, and then you're taking over year
- 15:00two, much like a Paris Johnson gott into the starting line of his year
- 15:03two. And that is appealing. And it's not one of those like pie
- 15:07in the sky things of like, hey, we we recruit all these five
- 15:11stars. Here what we're telling you we've done, Like if you look at
- 15:15their depth chart right now, it is wide open for any really any offensive
- 15:18lineman, but especially a left ackle. Well, and the thing is,
- 15:20how about this, how about freshman year he starts at right tackle. You
- 15:24kick Josh Fryer inside. I know that Friar's had a couple of years at
- 15:28tackled do you necessarily want to slide him inside? But there's gonna be guard
- 15:33positions open too, because we're getting to the end of the line with Donovan
- 15:35Jackson as well. So you're right on on the depth chart. And I
- 15:41think something else that we've not maybe talked about as much as an industry is
- 15:46with the dollars that are flowing now for NIL and everything broke kevin Io State.
- 15:52People have been telling me for years at Ohio State's broke. They don't
- 15:54get NIL. They don't. I've been telling them for years they're wrong.
- 15:58Who's right? I don't know, But if hypothetically I want that one guys,
- 16:02I'm sorry. I love all of you out there, But if that's
- 16:06in the wind column for me, I don't think anyone can be arguing at
- 16:08the High she doesn't know what it's doing with an IL at this point.
- 16:12If they can find if they can find a couple of dollars to throw David
- 16:15Sanders' way in IL, yeah, setups, get under the couch cushions.
- 16:18I was going to say, they it's not going to be a matter of
- 16:22having to take seventy seven up into Charleston and then going and cutting the corner
- 16:26on thirty three and driving through Megs County. You can fly, you can
- 16:30you can fly at that point. So I think that sometimes the depth or
- 16:37the distance conversation is a little overblown. Now it's not going to be a
- 16:44case like Mom is just going to be able to show up out of the
- 16:47blue and bring it, you know, a big pot of chicken noodle soup
- 16:49and clean laundry and everything else. It's it's a little bit more detailed,
- 16:53but it's not exactly around the corner to Athens. It's certainly not around the
- 16:57corner to Tuscaloosa. So I think a lot of that is there. We've
- 17:03seen guys. I'll use Mason Short as an example. Ohio State was in
- 17:07it the first time around with them. Ohio State, I guess technically was
- 17:11in it the second time around with them. The one thing that didn't happen
- 17:14is Columbus, Ohio did not get any closer to Augusta, Georgia. But
- 17:18here in Charlotte. I think that that is still a significantly shorter trip in
- 17:22a lot of ways. And I think everybody has their own thing it's like,
- 17:26I'm not going anywhere by car if it's more than three hours. But
- 17:29I think for anybody who does some real traveling, I think six hours is
- 17:33kind of your your limit. And it's just under six hours, I mean,
- 17:37unless seventy seven is really bad with traffic. And again I think,
- 17:41yeah, like with Mason Short though, he just never came back, like
- 17:45he visited the one time and you and I were there. We talked about
- 17:48it at the under armer camp last year where you know, we kind of
- 17:51asked, you know, hey, you're coming back up for the spring game
- 17:52and Mom was like, well that's so far. I was like, well,
- 17:56you're not getting him. Crossed him off the list, cross Mason Short
- 17:59off the way. But you know, David has has made the effort to
- 18:03get up now three times twice in the last month, and you know he'll
- 18:07get the free trip in June for the official But you know, I think
- 18:10with him, it's I don't think it's so much like oh, I have
- 18:14to get in the car, my famili's not get in the car and dry.
- 18:15He's very close. He's got younger siblings he's close to, and I
- 18:19just think there's some of that so I think you're you're recruiting. If you're
- 18:22a highest state, you're almost recruiting the younger siblings. Right, don't you
- 18:26want big don't you want big brother to go to Columbus. I think that
- 18:29maybe be an angle you have to take at some point. But yeah,
- 18:33there are some things that I think Ohio State has been able to successfully,
- 18:38whether it's overcome is the right word, or navigate here to make this more
- 18:45interesting than it looked like it was going to be a few months ago.
- 18:48So we'll see, we will see what happens. But that would obviously be
- 18:52I mean, that would be an all timer, I think just about I
- 18:56mean in terms of excitement level of the fan base, that would be like
- 19:00an all time. And talk about needing it because just the whole, I
- 19:03mean, Ohio State needs it, justin Fry needs it because you look at
- 19:07I'm just convinced. I mean, if I had young kids, I would
- 19:11be like, you need you need to be an offensive line coach when you
- 19:14grow up, because apparently offensive line coaches cannot recruit on the whole because they're
- 19:18all different birds. Ed Warner his players, his players would have run through
- 19:23a brick wall for him, but he was not a great recruiter. He
- 19:26was a little odd on the recruiting trail in Ohio State had to cover there.
- 19:32Then Ohio State goes in and brings in Greg Studuara, and he was
- 19:36an even worse recruiter. And you know, so you just I mean,
- 19:40and you can even go prior to to Warner, you can go to Jim
- 19:45Bowman and Trussell was doing a lot of let's not forget clear that one.
- 19:51There was a there was a recruiting class where Ohio State brought in one offensive
- 19:55lineman and his name was Evan Blankenship. And he is a better guitar player
- 19:57than offensive lineman and he's he's killing it on the country music scene in Nashville
- 20:02right now. So shout out to Evan if you're watching. I'm not talking
- 20:04down about you. I'm just speaking speaking real that that was a year that
- 20:07was like that was a fireable offense to have a class that looked like that.
- 20:11Yeah, so you know this would be this would be something we'll we'll
- 20:17see. There's officials coming up in June and there's there's a lot a lot
- 20:22to go there. But no matter how positive or negative you are about the
- 20:29situation. You have to acknowledge they're in a better position today than they were
- 20:33three months ago. Like, it's really not debatable, even for someone like
- 20:37me who's been relatively negative about their chances. So we'll see how that goes.
- 20:42We'll try and get some more insight on that, hopefully very soon.
- 20:45I think, well, we'll see how things go, you know, kind
- 20:48kind our eggs before they hatch. But we seem to be in the right
- 20:52area for, you know, to maybe hear something. But we are in
- 20:56Charlotte, so we may it to Greensboro. That was an interesting stop.
- 21:03It wasn't a stop we necessarily knew we were gonna make a few weeks ago,
- 21:07but it became one that we felt we had to faison Brandon at Greensborough
- 21:11Grimsley High School. Is I think two four seven's got him number one player
- 21:14in the country in twenty twenty six. He's pretty much a consensus five star,
- 21:21top ten type of player in the class at this point. First of
- 21:25all, just physically impress it, like six four to two hundred pounds already,
- 21:30I mean, fifteen years old, he should be in twenty seven.
- 21:33He's in twenty six, like thirty six touchdowns to three picks last year and
- 21:37then another like five hundred some yards and nine touchdowns on the ground. It
- 21:44reminds me of Jayden Daniels when I was watching the tape, but I would
- 21:48I could even take it a step further. This will be almost unfair,
- 21:53but I'm gonna do it. There's like some Vince Young there in terms of
- 21:57his size and at letticism and just like physically being a physically imposing, big
- 22:03athletic quarterback. There's some Vince Young there like that. He is a special
- 22:07talent, great kid, very humble. We hope he stays that way because
- 22:12this is about to get very hectic for him here the next year or so,
- 22:18and seems to have a genuine curiosity and interest in Ohio state. Chip
- 22:22Kelly made his way to check him out at at at Grimsley High School.
- 22:26He is every bit of six' four. He comes into the room.
- 22:29I'm like, yep, you're taller than me. You're six' four and
- 22:33for two hundred pounds, still a little lean, but I mean, you're
- 22:36right, he's only he's only fifteen years old. And let's not forget that
- 22:40everybody was freaking out when Jared Curtis committed to Uga, which obviously kind of
- 22:45changed up the board. Ohio State was sitting in great shape with Jared Curtis's
- 22:51coaching. Change happens in terms of Corey Dennis not being retained that throws a
- 22:55little bit of chaos into the whole situation. Ohio State has a lot of
- 22:59very interesting options for its class of twenty six quarterback, and Beison is somebody
- 23:04who I think that really would fit the system that Ohio State wants to run.
- 23:11We're talking about a fifteen year old, so he probably doesn't know Chip
- 23:14Kelly's whole body of work, but I think that Ohio State can definitely put
- 23:19a product on the field this year that will give him a lot a lot
- 23:23to think about. There are going to be a lot of suitors for him,
- 23:29Tennessee being one of them. I think there's some other schools that definitely
- 23:32make a lot of sense but have no fear of. Ohio State is focused
- 23:37on a lot of these top quarterbacks, even after missing out on Curtis.
- 23:41And one interesting thing that I didn't know until we talked to him is that
- 23:45he had come up as a freshman for a spring practice, and so that's
- 23:51sometimes very telling the sophomore, junior, senior year visits or kind of the
- 23:56schools you're considering the eighth ninth grade visits are the schools you like, and
- 24:03so sometimes it doesn't always line up. Sometimes the schools you like don't end
- 24:07up being the schools you start you consider for one reason or another. But
- 24:11it shows that you don't come up as a like eighth ninth grader to a
- 24:15place like Ohio State from North Carolina unless there's something pulling you that you want
- 24:19to see what this is all about. So that that was interesting to me
- 24:22that he mentioned that definitely was a big C. J. Stroud Marvin Harrison
- 24:26watcher. You know, I thought it was interesting. Again we said one
- 24:32of his coaches was kind of give him a crash course in chip Kelly and
- 24:34his time at Oregon and how he kind of revolutionized some things and they did
- 24:38things a little bit differently. So there's a good foundation there, and he
- 24:42says he's going to come up in the summer. Him and his family have
- 24:45been talking again. Him and his family have been talking to the coaches.
- 24:48That's you know, these are these are types of conversations that are are had
- 24:53when you are considering a school. It's not just a oh, it's cool
- 24:57to have an Ohio state off or on my you know, recruiting profile.
- 25:02So you know, we'll see if he makes it up in June, like
- 25:04he says, or June or July he said, I think we'll see.
- 25:07I tend to think he will. And Greensboro is even a little bit closer,
- 25:12I think than Charlotte. It's not it's a little bit off, but
- 25:15it's it's a little further east. But but the thing is, you people
- 25:18aren't here for a triple a lesson. But you take seventy four in a
- 25:22mount area and then you hit seventy seven. So it's not really that dry.
- 25:26I think it's really six to one half a dozen of another. So
- 25:29it's not it's it's drivable. It's not a horrible, you know, trip
- 25:33to make. So we'll see how this goes. Again, we've there's a
- 25:37connection there with like with Hendon Hooker and his uncle or something. There's like
- 25:41a family connection there. So Tennessee's off to I think a pretty good start,
- 25:44but nothing that nothing was indicated to me that like he's leaning anywhere right
- 25:48now. It's just kind of a you know, he's fifteen, and he's
- 25:51got all the schools that you'd probably want coming after him, So it's gonna
- 25:55be a serious battle. But so that was our first quarterback stop of the
- 25:59trip. We're going to see multiple I don't want to throw out an exact
- 26:03number yet, but we're gonna see several of their twenty twenty six quarterback offers
- 26:07here in the next couple of weeks. So if you're interested, if you
- 26:10love quarterback recruiting, if you're enamored with quarterback recruiting, Buckeye Huddle dot COM's
- 26:15gonna be an interesting place here the next couple of weeks as we get around
- 26:17to some some other quarterbacks they're recruiting in twenty six, which is the next
- 26:21time they're going to land a quarterback because they have their guy in twenty five.
- 26:22So so that was an interesting stop and we kind of we went to
- 26:30Weddington here in South Charlotte. Weddington High School. A lot of talent on
- 26:36that defense. It's gonna be one of the best defense. It's probably in
- 26:37the country next year if you look at all the talent they have at all
- 26:41three levels of their defense. But got made to feel old Thomas Davis Junior.
- 26:45If you remember Thomas Davis at Georgia with the Carolina Panthers, his son
- 26:49tremendous linebacker at Weddington High School. Here, you know, I guess for
- 26:56me, the interesting part of those comments because we won't we don't have to
- 27:00go down one by one here, We'll just you know, there were three
- 27:02guys we spoke to. We spoke to to Thomas Davis Junior, and we
- 27:06spoke to the Harris Twins, Aiden and Andrew twenty twenty six prospects. Aidan's
- 27:10a big defensive lineman, Andrew's kind of a hybrid, you know, outside
- 27:14linebacker, maybe a Jack type of player. The common theme with them is
- 27:19they all have Georgia ties. So obviously TJ. Davis, his father played
- 27:25there. The other two Thomas Davis Senior, is their uncles or their cousins,
- 27:30and they grew up in Georgia, so they grew up Georgia fans.
- 27:33But the common theme from all three of them is that I don't think they're
- 27:36actually feeling the love from Georgia yet. Now that could change at any moment,
- 27:41and still early, but I felt that was one of the interesting takeaways
- 27:45from that is because you feel like if Georgia just said tomorrow, like we're
- 27:48going to go all in on these three kids, you feel like they would
- 27:51they would get them. But they haven't done that for whatever reason. And
- 27:56maybe it's just too early for them to do that. But I think it
- 28:00leaves the door cracked for other schools. Well. I think that Georgia has
- 28:03to almost approach these guys as in state players in some regards because of the
- 28:08family ties. And I think there are gonna be times that you you talk
- 28:12to somebody who is a legacy of another program and you're like, well,
- 28:15that was all well and good. We don't have to go that far back
- 28:18on Southern Swing history to talking to Jerome Bettis junior. You know it was.
- 28:23It was a great story. Oh, I'm very interested in Ohio State.
- 28:26Very kid, very nice kid. But he's going to Notre Dame.
- 28:32I don't, you know, I don't I don't know if I necessarily Maybe
- 28:33with TJ. Davis, maybe that one is just going to kind of happen.
- 28:37But what what does it mean with with with the Harris twins. And
- 28:41it's funny because you talk to each of them. We did interviews with all
- 28:45three of them, you can catch them all at bucke huddle dot com as
- 28:47well as YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle about the potential of all three going
- 28:52to the same school, and one player is like, Oh, absolutely,
- 28:56that's what's gonna happen. And then we kind of had a little bit more
- 28:59of a uh, well, if we all end up at the same school,
- 29:00that's great. But I'm going where I'm going, and that's just kind
- 29:06of how it's gonna be. But get in, you know, Ohio State
- 29:10has to get in. Shoot it shot, get them up on campus a
- 29:14couple few times, and and and and and hope for the best at that
- 29:17point. And Ohio State has had them up there to check things out.
- 29:21I mean, they're obviously in a position to where they can go and and
- 29:23and see a lot of other schools. Uh. They they had a chance
- 29:27to go see Notre Dame, they had a chance to see Miami, Florida.
- 29:30They want to go out and see USC. So I don't think anybody
- 29:33is necessarily in a huge hurry. But I think if you're Georgia, there
- 29:38is a concern that if you come in too early, then you're you're gonna
- 29:44have to You're gonna have to ride. You're gonna have to ride or die
- 29:45with your decision at that point. And yeah, and it's gonna be all
- 29:48three. It's not just gonna be one. You're gonna have to take all
- 29:51three of them. And that's that. I mean, you're not gonna be
- 29:52able to burn that bridge. So yeah, it leaves things open, I
- 29:56think to me, I think the Harris twins are pretty wide open beyond you
- 30:00know, if we take Georgia out of the equation for a minute, I
- 30:03think the Harris twins are pretty wide open. I think Ohio State visit went
- 30:06very well. I think Aiden really enjoyed Larry Johnson, his time with Larry
- 30:10Johnson. I think I think they both liked their trip to Miami with TJ.
- 30:15I think obviously TJ liked Ohiast. We had great comments from TJ on
- 30:18the ohiost defense about how smart their players were in the film study and then
- 30:22also how they were flying around on the field and you know how Caleb downs,
- 30:26you know, left you know, the quote unquote kind of goat of
- 30:30defensive coaching Nick Saban and needed to find Okay, Saban's gone, what's the
- 30:34best place now? And that the fact that Caleb Downs felt that was Ohio
- 30:38State kind of resonated with with TJ. Davis. But I also think TJ
- 30:45like Notre Dame as well. He seemed to like Notre Dame I think more
- 30:48than the than the Harris Twins that seemed to kind of resonate with him a
- 30:51little more so. One of them was that it was like snowing when they
- 30:52were up there. Yeah, yeah, that was welcome. Welcome to the
- 30:56Upper Midwest in April. That's what happens. Yeah, So, you know,
- 31:00I I think again, I think with the Harris Twins, there's probably
- 31:03a lot to play out there, and I don't I wouldn't even want to
- 31:06handicap that one right now. I think with TJ, certainly Georgia if the
- 31:11Bulldogs start to really push there, and I think Notre Dame in Ohio State
- 31:15or the other two that have have made a good, good early impression.
- 31:18But again, these guys, and they have the resources to travel and Thomas
- 31:22Davis Senior takes care of those guys and you know, fly, they want
- 31:26to fly to l A and c USC and UCLA, They're gonna be able
- 31:27to do that, and so they're gonna be They're gonna have the resources to
- 31:30visit a lot of different schools, but the one, the one thing I
- 31:34wanted to get to real quick though as we kind of wrap this up,
- 31:37is I want I kind of forgot to mention this with with the Faison Brandon
- 31:41visit and we we this kind of got brought up at the Weddington visit too
- 31:45with with TJ. Davis, who knows Chris Henry Junior very well. A
- 31:48high state wide receiver commit is uh, you know Chris Henry Junior grew up.
- 31:52It did grow up in North Carolina before he moved to Ohio. So
- 31:57that would be something I think could be if you can get Faison Brandon up
- 32:01on campus and Chris Henry Junior on campus together, you're talking five star quarterback,
- 32:06five star receiver in the same class North Carolina ties. It'll be a
- 32:09lot in common there. That is a that is if I'm Ohio State,
- 32:14I am. I'm calling Uncle Pack right now and I'm saying, hey,
- 32:16faithOn Brandon's coming, you know X weekend? Can we can we tap into
- 32:22the to the Uncle Pack retirement fund and get Chris out here for that weekend
- 32:27because we need to make that we need to make that happen. Yeah,
- 32:30there's always so much about you want to have your quarterback to lead your class.
- 32:32I mean, I think right now the poster traveler of the twenty six
- 32:36class is obviously going to be Chris Henry Jr. Can he turn around and
- 32:39bring in the quarterback at that point? I think that would be, you
- 32:44know, a very wise move. Mark Pantoni, if you're watching, I'm
- 32:49sure though, if we thought of it, you've already thought of it,
- 32:51or at least you'll say you thought of it. But yeah, it'll be,
- 32:54you know, very interesting to see how all of that fits together.
- 32:58But I think also something that I did mention to Faison when we were pre
- 33:01interviewing him is just you know, oh and if you ended up in Ohio
- 33:05state, you would have a chance to throw to this guy. His name
- 33:07is Jeremiah Smith. And that's you know that his eyes lit up. He
- 33:12was aware, he was aware of who Jeremiah Smith is. Yeah, so
- 33:15we'll see again, we'll see how some of these developments go with the twenty
- 33:17six is still still a little early for a lot of those guys. You
- 33:21know, a lot of visits to take a lot of things to happen between
- 33:24now and then, but really to start to the trip, we're having a
- 33:28blast. It's you know, I don't want to give out our plan for
- 33:32for multiple reasons, but part of the reason is we don't really know exactly.
- 33:37We have a good idea of where this is going to go, and
- 33:38I will say, if our plan A comes together south, yeah, its
- 33:42head to the South. I could just say that if our Plan A comes
- 33:45together on what we want to do on this trip, it is going to
- 33:47be the largest, longest, most in depth Southern swing we've ever done,
- 33:52and it's going to be uh, there's gonna be some new states we've never
- 33:58stopped in for high If we get this all done, it's incredibly ambitious.
- 34:05But the puzzle pieces this weekend started to fall pretty well with guys we were
- 34:09reaching out to contact trying to set things up. So we're pretty confident that
- 34:15Plan A may actually come together here. But stay tuned to bucke Huddle dot
- 34:17com for all of our Southern Swing coverage as it continues, and we again
- 34:22we'll roll into We'll finish up North Carolina here on Monday, roll into Georgia
- 34:25Monday night at some ung godly hour and get rolling in the Deep South on
- 34:30Tuesday morning. So I hope everyone enjoyed watching, listening, and again check
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