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- 0:00Speaker 1: You know that feeling when you hold a brand new notebook,
- 0:05Speaker 1: like a completely empty one.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the one where this spine hasn't even been.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Cracked, right, exactly, the spine hasn't been cracked. The pages
- 0:11Speaker 1: are that crisp, blinding.
- 0:13Speaker 2: White, and you've got the perfect pen ready to go.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Yes, you have that smooth writing pen in your dominant hand,
- 0:19Speaker 1: and at that exact second, before you've written a single word,
- 0:23Speaker 1: you feel absolutely invincible.
- 0:25Speaker 2: You really do. You feel like a totally new person.
- 0:27Speaker 1: You're standing at the starting line of a new goal,
- 0:30Speaker 1: you know, like learning a language, or mastering a coding framework,
- 0:35Speaker 1: or even just finally getting your life organized.
- 0:37Speaker 2: And you feel fundamentally upgraded, like this time it's going
- 0:40Speaker 2: to be different exactly.
- 0:42Speaker 1: But then, inevitably, a few days pass, the Nate book
- 0:45Speaker 1: gets a little messy, You make a mistake on page
- 0:48Speaker 1: three and you scratch it out.
- 0:50Speaker 2: The excitement kind of fades, right, it fades.
- 0:53Speaker 1: And suddenly you find yourself wandering the aisles of a
- 0:55Speaker 1: stationary store again, looking for another brand new notebook, just
- 0:59Speaker 1: to give you that that exact same rush all over again.
- 1:02Speaker 2: It's a classic trap, that feeling of the new notebook
- 1:05Speaker 2: that's not actually motivation. Yeah, No, it's a biological dopamine trap.
- 1:09Speaker 1: A dopamine trap. Wow. And you know today we are
- 1:13Speaker 1: talking directly to you about this universal struggle. We're unpacking
- 1:17Speaker 1: the invisible psychological traps that constantly hold us back from
- 1:20Speaker 1: making real progress and.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Why our brains are so fiercely obsessed with chasing shiny
- 1:26Speaker 2: new tools instead of well doing the actual work.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Because it is a cycle almost everyone is trapped in
- 1:31Speaker 1: at some point.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, and it can be incredibly disorienting. We constantly
- 1:36Speaker 2: mistake the neurological thrill of the starting line for the
- 1:39Speaker 2: actual race.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Yeah, we think getting ready is the same as running exactly.
- 1:44Speaker 2: And what we are really dealing with here are behavioral
- 1:47Speaker 2: patterns that apply to mastering absolutely anything in life, whether
- 1:50Speaker 2: that is playing an instrument, leading a team, or adopting
- 1:54Speaker 2: a new fitness.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Regimen, anything where you have to learn and grow.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Right, So we're going to deconstruct the exact mechanic of
- 2:00Speaker 2: why this happens, how we confuse the feeling of excitement
- 2:03Speaker 2: with actual tangible progress, and.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Most importantly, we're outlining the precise cognitive boundaries you can
- 2:10Speaker 1: set to break this cycle and build real momentum.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Okay, let's unpack this, because to fix the problem we
- 2:16Speaker 2: really have to look honestly at the very first hurdle.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Of learning, which is that deceptive feeling of productivity we
- 2:23Speaker 1: get when we're just standing around preparing to start.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Yeah, we are talking about having commitment issues with the
- 2:28Speaker 2: learning process itself. There is this very specific, escalating progression
- 2:34Speaker 2: of behavior that I think is going to sound painfully
- 2:38Speaker 2: familiar to anyone who has ever tried to self teach
- 2:42Speaker 2: a skill.
- 2:43Speaker 1: It always starts innocently enough, it does.
- 2:45Speaker 2: You decide you want to learn somebody, so you download
- 2:47Speaker 2: one app, perfectly reasonable first step.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Right, just one app.
- 2:50Speaker 2: But then like forty eight hours later, you see another
- 2:52Speaker 2: app that looks slightly.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Better, has a slicker interface.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, or it makes a bolder, faster promise, so
- 2:58Speaker 2: you download that one too. Now you have two apps,
- 3:00Speaker 2: but you feel like you need something more substantial, something
- 3:04Speaker 2: more academic.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Yeah, you pull out your credit card. Exactly, you buy
- 3:08Speaker 1: a full comprehensive online course. Still feeling entirely unsatisfied, you
- 3:14Speaker 1: spend three hours on the weekend watching three different video
- 3:17Speaker 1: teachers explain the exact same introductory concepts.
- 3:20Speaker 2: You already covered, and then comes the grand finale.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Oh, the grand finale is downloading a massive sixty page
- 3:26Speaker 1: PDF of vocabulary or coding syntax that you save directly
- 3:31Speaker 1: to your desktop.
- 3:32Speaker 2: And here is the brutal reality of that entire sequence.
- 3:35Speaker 2: You finish absolutely none of.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Them, none of them zero.
- 3:38Speaker 2: That escalating sequence of downloading, buying, and bookmarking isn't a
- 3:43Speaker 2: learning process. It is a tool collection process.
- 3:46Speaker 1: A tool collection process.
- 3:48Speaker 2: When you are engaged in that flurry of activity, you
- 3:50Speaker 2: are not actually acquiring a skill. You're simply collecting the
- 3:54Speaker 2: accessories of the skill.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Collecting learning tools instead of learning. I mean that stings
- 3:58Speaker 1: to hear honestly, because it feels like a direct indictment
- 4:01Speaker 1: of how I spent my entire last weekend setting up
- 4:04Speaker 1: a new productivity system without doing a single minute of
- 4:07Speaker 1: actual productive work.
- 4:08Speaker 2: It happens to the best of us.
- 4:10Speaker 1: It really reminds me of the classic home gym trap.
- 4:13Speaker 1: You know, someone decides they want to get fit, so
- 4:15Speaker 1: they go out and buy a ton of expensive equipment.
- 4:18Speaker 2: They buy the heavy kettlebells.
- 4:19Speaker 1: The kettlebells, the specialized resistance bans, the high end treadmill
- 4:25Speaker 1: with the giant digital screen, and during the purchase, like
- 4:29Speaker 1: at the exact moment they're swiping their credit card, they
- 4:32Speaker 1: feel incredibly.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Fit, they feel accomplished.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah, their brain releases a massive surge of reward chemicals
- 4:39Speaker 1: just for acquiring the tools. But a month later, that
- 4:43Speaker 1: expensive treadmill is functioning exclusively as a very expensive clothes
- 4:47Speaker 1: rack for their laundry.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Which is such a perfect analogy because the transaction itself
- 4:52Speaker 2: felt like progress, but it was really just a collection phase. Right.
- 4:55Speaker 2: That cognitive dissonance you're describing is the core of the issue.
- 4:58Speaker 2: The brain's reward system, specifically the dopamine pathways, does not
- 5:03Speaker 2: easily distinguish between the acquisition of a tool and the
- 5:06Speaker 2: acquisition of the skill that the tool represents.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Well, my brain thinks buying the treadmill is the same
- 5:11Speaker 1: as running on it.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Pretty much. When you swipe the credit card for the treadmill,
- 5:15Speaker 2: your brain anticipates the future reward of being fit and
- 5:19Speaker 2: gives you a dopamine hit right then and there. It
- 5:22Speaker 2: feels identical to the satisfaction of completing a hard workout
- 5:26Speaker 2: but requires zero physical exertion.
- 5:28Speaker 1: That is so unfair. We're biologically rigged.
- 5:31Speaker 2: We are. There's a brilliant behavioral analogy for what our
- 5:34Speaker 2: distracted brains are doing during this phase. We're acting exactly
- 5:38Speaker 2: like a puppy in a park.
- 5:39Speaker 1: A puppy in a park. I mean that sounds adorable,
- 5:42Speaker 1: but I'm guessing in terms of cognitive function, it's a
- 5:44Speaker 1: total disaster.
- 5:45Speaker 2: It is a disaster for focus. Think about how a
- 5:48Speaker 2: puppy behaves in a wide open park. It isn't acting
- 5:51Speaker 2: out of malice, right, It simply lacks executive function.
- 5:54Speaker 1: It's just reacting to everything exactly.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Purely, one reactive to its environment. When a leaf blows by,
- 6:01Speaker 2: the puppy's attention is entirely hijacked and it chases the leaf.
- 6:05Speaker 2: But three seconds later a squirrel appears, The leaf is
- 6:08Speaker 2: instantly forgotten, and the puppy chases the squirrel. Our brains
- 6:11Speaker 2: operate the exact same way when confronted with the vast
- 6:15Speaker 2: algorithmic landscape of educational content available today.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Because we're wired to notice the new stuff.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Evolutionarily, yes, our brains are wired to notice novelty. A
- 6:27Speaker 2: sudden change in our environment, A snap of a twig,
- 6:30Speaker 2: a flash of color meant either a predator to avoid
- 6:33Speaker 2: or a food source.
- 6:34Speaker 1: To capture survival instincts.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Right, This is called the orienting response. We are biologically
- 6:40Speaker 2: mandated to pay attention to new things. But when you
- 6:43Speaker 2: place that ancient survival mechanism into a digital ecosystem designed
- 6:46Speaker 2: to serve you a never ending stream of new, shiny tools.
- 6:50Speaker 1: The orienting response just becomes a trap.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Exactly, we just chase one squirrel after another.
- 6:55Speaker 1: But wait, I have to challenge this logic of it,
- 6:57Speaker 1: because a leaf and a squirrel have nothing to do
- 6:59Speaker 1: with each other. But if I'm watching educational videos, say
- 7:02Speaker 1: I sit down and watch five different experts break down
- 7:04Speaker 1: how to confidently speak in public, or how to negotiate
- 7:07Speaker 1: a salary, aren't I still absorbing knowledge?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Wow?
- 7:10Speaker 1: Even if I'm bouncing between different teachers, I'm watching educational content.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Isn't that fundamentally a useful way to spend my time?
- 7:17Speaker 2: This raises an important question, and it is the exact
- 7:20Speaker 2: rationalization that traps the most dedicated, well intentioned learners.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm trapped.
- 7:26Speaker 2: You are. We have to separate actual practice from what
- 7:30Speaker 2: we can call educational distraction.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Educational distractions.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Okay. The crucial distinction here is between preparing to practice
- 7:37Speaker 2: and actually executing the practice. Yeah, watching people explain how
- 7:41Speaker 2: to do something is not the same as you doing
- 7:44Speaker 2: it right.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Watching isn't doing.
- 7:46Speaker 2: If you watch five experts talk about the mechanics of
- 7:49Speaker 2: public speaking, you are acquiring information about speaking, but you
- 7:54Speaker 2: are not practicing the skill of speaking.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I'm just gathering data.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Yes, A distraction becomes incredibly dangerous when it disguises itself as.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Education because it doesn't feel like I'm wasting time playing
- 8:05Speaker 1: a video game. It feels like I'm studying exactly.
- 8:08Speaker 2: It provides the illusion of competence. If your planned active
- 8:12Speaker 2: practice for the day was simply to record a two
- 8:14Speaker 2: minute voice note of yourself speaking on a topic, and
- 8:17Speaker 2: instead you spend an hour watching videos about how to speak, well,
- 8:21Speaker 2: that video content was a distraction.
- 8:23Speaker 1: It pulled me away from the actual work.
- 8:25Speaker 2: It pulled your attention away from the cognitive friction of
- 8:28Speaker 2: active execution and kept you safely tucked away in the
- 8:31Speaker 2: passive collection phase. You feel busy, you feel stimulated, so
- 8:35Speaker 2: you assume you are moving forward, but you haven't moved
- 8:39Speaker 2: an inch.
- 8:39Speaker 1: That is deeply insidious. The distraction wears a graduation cap,
- 8:43Speaker 1: so we just invite it in.
- 8:44Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it, If we are.
- 8:46Speaker 1: So easily fooled by these educational distractions and our biology
- 8:49Speaker 1: is actively working against us to seek novelty, what does
- 8:53Speaker 1: the actual timeline of this self sabotage look like?
- 8:56Speaker 2: It's very predictable, like.
- 8:57Speaker 1: How do we go from holding that crisp notebook on
- 9:01Speaker 1: day one to completely abandoning our plan by day four.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Let's track the emotional life cycle of a new goal.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Okay, let's track it. The life cycle begins on day one,
- 9:11Speaker 2: which is characterized by an incredibly strong euphoric start.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Oh, day one is the best.
- 9:15Speaker 2: The learner feels proud, motivated, and energized. During this phase,
- 9:20Speaker 2: the brain is actively engaged in projecting what we can
- 9:22Speaker 2: call the movie version of the future.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Oh, the movie version of the future. I know this intimately,
- 9:27Speaker 1: tell me about it. You decide you were going to
- 9:29Speaker 1: learn French, and immediately you weren't thinking about conjugating verbs.
- 9:34Speaker 1: You are visualizing yourself sitting at a highly esthetic cafe
- 9:38Speaker 1: in Paris. Of course, you're effortlessly chatting with the locals,
- 9:42Speaker 1: ordering pastries in a flawless accent, and there is always
- 9:46Speaker 1: this imaginary cinematic background music playing in your head.
- 9:49Speaker 2: It's an entire production.
- 9:51Speaker 1: It is. It's a completely idealized vision of success that
- 9:54Speaker 1: requires absolutely zero actual effort in the present moment.
- 9:58Speaker 2: And it's a powerful hallucinating and it serves a purpose
- 10:01Speaker 2: that cinematic vision provides a massive emotional high. It gives
- 10:05Speaker 2: you the necessary dopamine spike to overcome the initial inertia
- 10:09Speaker 2: of starting.
- 10:10Speaker 1: So the movie Trailie gets you into the theater.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Exactly, but it's entirely unsustainable because eventually you have to
- 10:16Speaker 2: close the movie in your head and look at the
- 10:18Speaker 2: actual flash cards. And this brings us to.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Day four, Day four, the reality check.
- 10:23Speaker 2: By day four, that initial tool, that shiny new app
- 10:25Speaker 2: you downloaded, no longer feels magical. The honeymoon phase is over.
- 10:29Speaker 1: It just feels normal.
- 10:30Speaker 2: It feels normal. The exercise has become repetitive. You are
- 10:35Speaker 2: forced to say the same kind of sentence or practice
- 10:37Speaker 2: the same basic concept again and again to actually wire
- 10:40Speaker 2: it into your neural pathways.
- 10:41Speaker 1: And this is where the wheels completely come off, because
- 10:44Speaker 1: the brain immediately labels this repetition as boring.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Precisely, but we need to redefine what the brain means
- 10:50Speaker 2: when it says boring. What does mean the brain isn't
- 10:53Speaker 2: analyzing the utility of the exercise. It isn't saying this
- 10:57Speaker 2: is no longer helping me learn, it's simply nosving. This
- 11:00Speaker 2: activity is no longer new.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Ah, it's just lacking novelty.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Dopamine is released in the anticipation of a novel reward.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Once an app or a learning routine becomes predictable, the
- 11:12Speaker 2: dopamine drops, the orienting response turns off, so.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Your brain is essentially screaming, I figured out the pattern here.
- 11:18Speaker 1: There are no surprises left. Feed me something new.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Yes, And right at that moment of supreme vulnerability, right
- 11:24Speaker 2: when the brain is starved for novelty and labeling the
- 11:26Speaker 2: work is boring, you open.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Your phone and the algorithm, which knows you perfectly serves
- 11:31Speaker 1: up a new video with a highly dangerous clickworthy title.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Something like learn ten times Faster with this one secret method, and.
- 11:40Speaker 1: The trap is sprung. You click the new video, the
- 11:43Speaker 1: old tool is instantly forgotten, and that day one thrill,
- 11:46Speaker 1: that movie version of the future returns in full force.
- 11:50Speaker 1: The puppy has seen a new squirrel.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Exactly what is vital to understand here is the underlying
- 11:56Speaker 2: psychological truth of this moment excitement is not proof that
- 12:00Speaker 2: something is better, and boredom is not proof that something
- 12:03Speaker 2: has stopped working.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting. Our brains aren't lazy,
- 12:08Speaker 1: they aren't evil, and they aren't deliberately prailed to ruin
- 12:11Speaker 1: our lives.
- 12:12Speaker 2: No, they're not.
- 12:12Speaker 1: They are just incredibly easily manipulated by novelty. The sheer
- 12:16Speaker 1: excitement we feel when we download the next app is
- 12:19Speaker 1: simply because it is completely new.
- 12:22Speaker 2: That's all is.
- 12:22Speaker 1: A new app feels like a clean slate, a fresh
- 12:25Speaker 1: start where we haven't made any frustrating mistakes yet. The
- 12:28Speaker 1: old method didn't stop helping us learn, It just stopped
- 12:30Speaker 1: feeling brand new.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Novelty is a powerful cognitive trigger because it bypasses logic entirely.
- 12:37Speaker 2: When you contrast the thrilling novelty of a new method
- 12:40Speaker 2: with the predictable familiarity of an old method, the old
- 12:44Speaker 2: method will always feel heavy and dull, and to a
- 12:48Speaker 2: brain craving stimulation, dull feels like failure.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Oh wow, dull feels like failure. But it's not.
- 12:55Speaker 2: No, it's not yeah. True structural changes in the brain,
- 12:58Speaker 2: actual neuroplasticity, lives almost exclusively in that dull repetitive space.
- 13:03Speaker 1: So when you abandon a method just because the novelty
- 13:06Speaker 1: is faded.
- 13:07Speaker 2: You are abandoning the exact cognitive environment where actual growth
- 13:10Speaker 2: was about to occur.
- 13:12Speaker 1: That is heartbreaking. So we have this biological glitch where
- 13:15Speaker 1: we run away from the exact repetition that builds skill
- 13:18Speaker 1: just to chase the high of a new starting line.
- 13:20Speaker 2: It's a tough cycle to break.
- 13:22Speaker 1: This constant cycle of chasing excitement and abandoning the normal
- 13:25Speaker 1: repetition actually has a specific name in behavioral psychology, doesn't it.
- 13:29Speaker 2: It does.
- 13:30Speaker 1: We need to define it because until we name the monster,
- 13:32Speaker 1: we can't fight it. We are talking about the difference
- 13:35Speaker 1: between method hopping and intentional learning.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Let's clearly define method hopping first.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Okay, what is it?
- 13:41Speaker 2: Method hopping means jumping from one learning method, tool, or
- 13:44Speaker 2: strategy to another before giving the first method enough time
- 13:48Speaker 2: to actually yield neurological results.
- 13:50Speaker 1: So just constantly jumping shit right.
- 13:53Speaker 2: It is the persistent, habitual refusal to stay with a
- 13:57Speaker 2: single strategy long enough for it to work.
- 14:00Speaker 1: And if we want to see the physical evidence of
- 14:01Speaker 1: method hopping, we just have to look at our own
- 14:03Speaker 1: digital environments. I mean it creates this massive digital graveyard.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Well, the digital graveyard is real.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Apps on our phones that were opened exactly twice and
- 14:12Speaker 1: then relegated to a folder named productivity, never to be
- 14:16Speaker 1: seen again.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Courses sitting at twelve percent completion for six months.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Yes, or those group messaging chats created with friends for
- 14:24Speaker 1: daily accountability practice where the very last message sent dated
- 14:29Speaker 1: three years ago is forever, let's start tomorrow.
- 14:31Speaker 2: It is a graveyard of good intentions, it really is,
- 14:34Speaker 2: and it is a graveyard fueled by rationalization.
- 14:36Speaker 1: What makes method hopping so insidious is how it hides itself.
- 14:40Speaker 2: How does it hiden Well, the learner almost never admits
- 14:44Speaker 2: I am quitting because this requires executive function and cognitive effort,
- 14:48Speaker 2: and I'd rather have a quick dopamine.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Hit because that would be too painful to the ego.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Exactly. Instead, method hopping hides behind excuses that sound incredibly smart, analytical,
- 15:00Speaker 2: and reasonable. Oh like what the learner says, things like
- 15:04Speaker 2: the teacher in this video speaks too slowly for my
- 15:06Speaker 2: learning style, or this course focuses entirely too much on
- 15:11Speaker 2: theoretical grammar, or my.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Personal favorite, given the advancements in technology, there must be
- 15:16Speaker 1: an easier, more efficient way to learn this.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Yes, it is a total defense mechanism. We experience the
- 15:22Speaker 2: entirely normal discomfort of our brain struggling to form new connections,
- 15:26Speaker 2: the friction of practice, and we disguise that discomfort as
- 15:29Speaker 2: a totally rational, high level critique of the learning material itself.
- 15:33Speaker 1: We blame the tools, so we don't have to blame
- 15:35Speaker 1: our lack of focus precisely. But wait, I have to
- 15:38Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate here. What if the method I am
- 15:40Speaker 1: using actually is is terrible?
- 15:42Speaker 2: That's a fair question.
- 15:43Speaker 1: What if the app is poorly designed or the teacher
- 15:46Speaker 1: really is giving bad information? Are we supposed to just
- 15:49Speaker 1: suffer through a terrible curriculum forever just to prove to
- 15:53Speaker 1: ourselves that we have iron discipline.
- 15:55Speaker 2: That is a crucial distinction, and the answer is absolutely not.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Staying focused does not mean enduring a fundamentally flawed or
- 16:04Speaker 2: ineffective method just for the sake of suffering. Okay, this
- 16:07Speaker 2: is where the counter concept comes in intentional learning. The
- 16:11Speaker 2: fundamental difference between method hopping and intentional learning comes down
- 16:15Speaker 2: to giving a tool what we call a fair chance.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Let's put some parameters on that. What exactly constitutes a
- 16:22Speaker 1: fair chance, because downloading a meditation app one morning, using
- 16:25Speaker 1: it for five minutes, and deleting it the next to
- 16:27Speaker 1: find a different one definitely isn't it correct?
- 16:29Speaker 2: Using an app for two days is not a fair chance.
- 16:32Speaker 2: A fair chance means using a method properly consistently for
- 16:36Speaker 2: a few weeks. A few weeks, okay, It requires enough
- 16:39Speaker 2: sustained time to engage with the material, experience the necessary repetition,
- 16:44Speaker 2: and begin to notice patterns in your own cognition. You
- 16:48Speaker 2: have to give your brain time to adapt to the
- 16:51Speaker 2: interface and the methodology, so.
- 16:53Speaker 1: You have to push through that day four boredom.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Yes, if you give a method a genuine, sustained efe
- 17:00Speaker 2: for a month and it truly does not fit your
- 17:02Speaker 2: goals or it's too advanced or too simplistic, then you
- 17:06Speaker 2: make a conscious decision to change it.
- 17:08Speaker 1: And that is intentional learning.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Yes, intentional learning is thoughtful switching with a specific analytical purpose.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Method hopping, on the other hand, is purely emotional switching
- 17:18Speaker 2: based on a sudden spike of boredom or a desire
- 17:21Speaker 2: for a quick thrill.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Intentional learning is thoughtful switching. Method hopping is emotional switching.
- 17:26Speaker 1: That framing changes everything.
- 17:28Speaker 2: It really does, because if I'm.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Switching because I'm frustrated in the moment, it's a hob
- 17:32Speaker 1: If I'm switching after a month of data gathering, it's intentional.
- 17:35Speaker 1: And understanding that difference is absolutely vital, because the long
- 17:39Speaker 1: term damage of this emotional switching goes far beyond just
- 17:43Speaker 1: wasting twenty dollars a month on a subscription you don't use.
- 17:46Speaker 2: The psychological toll is severe.
- 17:48Speaker 1: We have to look at what method hopping does to
- 17:51Speaker 1: a person over time. It creates this devastating persona the
- 17:55Speaker 1: person who is a strong starter but a weak finisher.
- 17:59Speaker 2: This is a deeply painful behavioral loop to be trapped in.
- 18:02Speaker 2: A strong starter becomes incredibly, almost professionally skilled at the
- 18:07Speaker 2: preparation phase. Right They know exactly how to set up
- 18:10Speaker 2: their digital workspace perfectly. They spend hours selecting the ideal
- 18:14Speaker 2: font for their notes.
- 18:15Speaker 1: They craft beautiful, color coded, hyper optimized schedule.
- 18:19Speaker 2: They excel at the emotional performance of beginning a new project,
- 18:22Speaker 2: but they never actually execute the ongoing, unglamorous practice.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Their entire skill set lies in starting, not in doing It.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Is like they are professional preparers and the tragedy of
- 18:32Speaker 1: being a professional preparer, is that you completely miss out
- 18:34Speaker 1: on the most powerful force in learning, which is momentum.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Momentum is everything. How do we.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Define momentum in a cognitive sense? It's that magical point
- 18:43Speaker 1: where progress keeps moving forward simply because you keep going right,
- 18:47Speaker 1: where the habit takes over and the sheer willpower required
- 18:50Speaker 1: to sit down and do the work drops significantly.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Exactly scientifically, momentum is the result of habituation and reduced
- 18:58Speaker 2: cognitive load.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Reduced cognitive load meaning it gets easier to think about.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Yes, when you practice a skill for several consecutive days,
- 19:06Speaker 2: your brain warms up to the concepts. If it is
- 19:09Speaker 2: a physical skill, a programming language, or a spoken language,
- 19:13Speaker 2: your neural pathways become myelinated. They become faster and more efficient.
- 19:17Speaker 1: So the subject just feels more accessible.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Right. It takes less executive functionless raw mental energy to
- 19:22Speaker 2: engage with the material today than it did yesterday.
- 19:25Speaker 1: But method hopping actively destroys this completely.
- 19:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it introduces the sheer exhaustion of starting.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Cold, starting cold. Ugh, I hate that feeling.
- 19:33Speaker 2: When you constantly switch methods, you lose all of that
- 19:35Speaker 2: built up neurological efficiency. You force your prefrontal cortex to
- 19:39Speaker 2: work in overdrive to understand a brand new interface, a
- 19:42Speaker 2: new teaching style, a new set of rules.
- 19:45Speaker 1: You force yourself to start cold, over and over and
- 19:47Speaker 1: over again. Yes, it is exactly like driving in heavy
- 19:51Speaker 1: stop and go city traffic. Think about the mechanics of
- 19:54Speaker 1: a car. When the light turns green, you slam on
- 19:56Speaker 1: the gas right. The engine has to work incredible hard,
- 20:00Speaker 1: burning a massive amount of fuel and energy just to
- 20:03Speaker 1: overcome the inertia of a two ton metal box sitting still.
- 20:07Speaker 2: It takes a lot of power, it does.
- 20:09Speaker 1: You finally get up to speed, and then immediately you
- 20:12Speaker 1: see a shiny new app I mean a red light,
- 20:14Speaker 1: and you slam on the brakes. Then you idle. Your
- 20:17Speaker 1: engine is still running, still burning fuel, but you aren't.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Moving, and then you have to do it all over
- 20:22Speaker 2: again exactly.
- 20:22Speaker 1: You are burning so much mental glucose, you feel your
- 20:25Speaker 1: brain working so hard, but you are barely traveling a
- 20:28Speaker 1: single mile. You never get to hit the open highway
- 20:31Speaker 1: where you can just cruise because on the highway the
- 20:34Speaker 1: momentum of the vehicle does the heavy lifting for you.
- 20:36Speaker 1: You barely have to touch the pedal.
- 20:38Speaker 2: That analogy perfectly isolates the danger. What's fascinating here is
- 20:43Speaker 2: how that stop and go dynamic creates a tragic illusion
- 20:46Speaker 2: in the learner's mind.
- 20:47Speaker 1: What kind of illusion?
- 20:49Speaker 2: Well, starting cold again and again is deeply, profoundly exhausting
- 20:54Speaker 2: because it requires so much energy just to overcome the
- 20:57Speaker 2: initial friction of a new method. It makes you feel
- 21:00Speaker 2: like you're always putting in a massive amount of effort. Oh,
- 21:03Speaker 2: I see, you feel like you are always working hard,
- 21:06Speaker 2: always exhausted, always beginning something difficult. But you look back
- 21:10Speaker 2: after six months and realize you are in the exact
- 21:13Speaker 2: same place. You are confusing the fatigue of starting with
- 21:18Speaker 2: the effort of progressing.
- 21:20Speaker 1: You are confusing the fatigue of starting with the effort
- 21:22Speaker 1: of progressing. Ugh, huh, that is the exact trap. We
- 21:26Speaker 1: feel tired, so we assume we climb the mountain when
- 21:28Speaker 1: really we just walked around the base camp twenty times.
- 21:30Speaker 2: That's exactly it.
- 21:31Speaker 1: We've diagnosed the disease, this constant exhausting stop and go
- 21:35Speaker 1: method hopping that burns our mental fuel. But recognizing the
- 21:39Speaker 1: trap doesn't automatically get us out of it. We need
- 21:42Speaker 1: a tactical reset we do. How do we shift this
- 21:44Speaker 1: car out of stop and go traffic and onto the highway.
- 21:47Speaker 1: I know there are three specific, highly actionable cognitive boundaries
- 21:51Speaker 1: we can set to outsmart our own biology.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Yes, these three rules are incredibly pragmatic because they don't
- 21:57Speaker 2: rely on brute willpower. They rely on behavioral redirection.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Okay, what's the first rule.
- 22:02Speaker 2: The first rule is simply this, park the idea.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Park the idea.
- 22:06Speaker 2: We established earlier that the brain loves novelty. It is
- 22:10Speaker 2: biologically wired to orient toward the new shiny thing. When
- 22:14Speaker 2: a new educational tool or an intriguing video title pops
- 22:17Speaker 2: up in your feed. The goal is not to aggressively
- 22:20Speaker 2: suppress that urge or pretend you don't find it interesting.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Because psychological suppression usually backfires.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Always backfires. The rule is to avoid obeying that impulse immediately.
- 22:31Speaker 2: You do not open a new tab, You do not
- 22:33Speaker 2: abandon your current lesson. Instead, you physically write the idea
- 22:37Speaker 2: down on a piece of paper. You park it for later.
- 22:40Speaker 1: So if I'm practicing a coding problem and I suddenly
- 22:42Speaker 1: get the urge to research a completely different programming language,
- 22:45Speaker 1: I don't try to banish the thought. I just write
- 22:48Speaker 1: it down on a sticky note exactly that makes sense
- 22:50Speaker 1: because it acknowledges our human nature. By writing it down,
- 22:53Speaker 1: we are utilizing the Zygarnic effect. We are satisfying the
- 22:57Speaker 1: brain's fear that it will forget this important new thing,
- 23:01Speaker 1: closing the loop and creating a boundary.
- 23:03Speaker 2: We are protecting today's practice from today's distractions.
- 23:06Speaker 1: But if the first step is capturing the distraction by
- 23:09Speaker 1: parking it, that still leaves us with a brain that
- 23:11Speaker 1: is absolutely buzzing from the thousand short form videos we
- 23:15Speaker 1: watched before we even sat down at the desk. We
- 23:17Speaker 1: have to address the mental baseline before we even open
- 23:20Speaker 1: the book.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Don't we We do, which brings us to the second rule.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Take five quiet minutes.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Five quiet minutes.
- 23:27Speaker 2: This is a non negotiable prerequisite to learning. It means
- 23:31Speaker 2: absolutely no phone, no scrolling through algorithmic feeds, and no
- 23:36Speaker 2: consuming rapid fire media immediately before you sit down to
- 23:39Speaker 2: practice your skill. You must transition your nervous system.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Because if we don't, we are entering the learning environment
- 23:45Speaker 1: already completely overstimulated.
- 23:48Speaker 2: Precisely, think about the rate of information processing required to
- 23:52Speaker 2: scroll through a social media feed. Every three seconds, your
- 23:55Speaker 2: brain is processing a new context, a new emotion, a
- 23:58Speaker 2: new face a new song.
- 24:00Speaker 1: It's exhausting just thinking about it.
- 24:02Speaker 2: Your brain is receiving massive, continuous hits of dopamine. Your
- 24:07Speaker 2: baseline for stimulation becomes artificially sky high. If you turn
- 24:12Speaker 2: off your phone and immediately try to transition from that
- 24:15Speaker 2: hyper stimulated state into a normal, focused learning lesson, like
- 24:19Speaker 2: reading a dense paragraph of text, that lesson is not
- 24:23Speaker 2: just going to feel a little boring.
- 24:24Speaker 1: It's going to feel terrible.
- 24:25Speaker 2: It is going to feel agonizingly painfully slow. Your brain
- 24:28Speaker 2: will actively rebel against the sudden lack of dopamine.
- 24:31Speaker 1: So what do the five minutes do?
- 24:33Speaker 2: Taking five minutes of total sensory quiet acts as a
- 24:36Speaker 2: neurological palate cleanser. It allows your dopamine baseline to reset,
- 24:40Speaker 2: lowering your threshold for stimulation, so the normal, slow pace
- 24:44Speaker 2: of learning can feel engaging.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Again, we are basically numbing our ability to focus and
- 24:48Speaker 1: then getting mad at ourselves for not being able to focus.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Pretty much, okay, so we park the new ideas on
- 24:54Speaker 1: a sticky note. We take five minutes of total silence
- 24:57Speaker 1: to detox our dopamine receptors and reset baseline, and then
- 25:01Speaker 1: we actually have to do the work. What is the
- 25:04Speaker 1: behavioral strategy for the work itself.
- 25:06Speaker 2: The third rule is arguably the most important for actually
- 25:10Speaker 2: constructing that highway momentum. We talked about finish one.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Small thing us one small thing, and.
- 25:15Speaker 2: We must be very explicit about what small means. It
- 25:19Speaker 2: does not mean completing a massive two hour hero mode
- 25:22Speaker 2: study routine. It means finishing something incredibly finite and bounded,
- 25:27Speaker 2: reading ten lines of text, writing exactly five sentences, doing
- 25:31Speaker 2: a single three minute review session.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I have to be brutally honest here, and I think
- 25:35Speaker 1: a lot of people listening will feel the exact same hesitation.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Is finishing just five simple sentences really going to move
- 25:40Speaker 1: the needle on my progress? It feels almost pathetic.
- 25:43Speaker 2: It feels small.
- 25:44Speaker 1: It feels way too small to matter. It certainly doesn't
- 25:46Speaker 1: look anything like that cinematic movie version of the Future
- 25:49Speaker 1: where I'm speaking fluently in Paris.
- 25:51Speaker 2: It doesn't look like the movie, and that is exactly
- 25:53Speaker 2: why it works. The psychology behind this relies on building
- 25:57Speaker 2: self efficacy.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Self efficacy, okay, explain that.
- 26:00Speaker 2: When you set a massive two hour goal and you
- 26:03Speaker 2: fail to meet it, which you will because your cognitive
- 26:05Speaker 2: load is too heavy, you reinforce the identity of someone
- 26:08Speaker 2: who fails.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Right.
- 26:09Speaker 2: But when you set an aggressively small goal and you
- 26:12Speaker 2: finish it, you are sending a very clear, undeniable message
- 26:16Speaker 2: to your brain. I am capable of continuing. You are
- 26:20Speaker 2: providing neurological proof to yourself that you can execute and
- 26:24Speaker 2: complete a task without abandoning it for a distraction.
- 26:28Speaker 1: So the goal is in the volume of work. It's
- 26:30Speaker 1: the completion of the work.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Yes, today's small finish gives proof to the brain. And
- 26:36Speaker 2: when you repeat that small finish tomorrow, you begin to
- 26:38Speaker 2: build a rhythm. That rhythm is the foundation of momentum.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Today gives proof, Tomorrow builds the rhythm. I love that
- 26:45Speaker 1: By keeping the barrier to entry so ridiculously low, you
- 26:48Speaker 1: eliminate the friction that causes the anxiety that makes you
- 26:50Speaker 1: want a methodop in the first place. You literally sneak
- 26:53Speaker 1: past your brain's own defenses. These three actions parking the idea,
- 26:58Speaker 1: taking five quiet minutes, and finishing one small thing are
- 27:01Speaker 1: powerful external behavioral shifts. But if we only change our
- 27:06Speaker 1: external behavior and we ignore the environment inside our own heads,
- 27:10Speaker 1: we're still going to crash the car.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Yes, the internal narrative is just as crucial.
- 27:15Speaker 1: We have to look at the specific language we use internally,
- 27:18Speaker 1: because how we talk to ourselves while doing these actions
- 27:21Speaker 1: will either powerfully reinforce our success or completely doom us
- 27:24Speaker 1: to self sabotage. Let's look at the vocabulary of focus
- 27:28Speaker 1: and how we have to reframe our internal monologue.
- 27:31Speaker 2: This is where the physical meets the psychological. We are
- 27:34Speaker 2: moving from external actions to internal narratives. The core insight
- 27:37Speaker 2: here is that harsh, definitive, identity level words actively destroy motivation.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Give me an example.
- 27:44Speaker 2: When we use catastrophic language, we trigger a stress response
- 27:47Speaker 2: in the brain. Cortisol floods the system, which literally narrows
- 27:50Speaker 2: our cognitive focus and shuts down the prefrontal cortex, the
- 27:54Speaker 2: exact part of the brain we need to learn. We
- 27:56Speaker 2: have to shift from self sabotage to observational self compassion.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Let's dissect these specific reframes, because I am guilty of
- 28:03Speaker 1: every single one of these. The first harsh phrase that
- 28:06Speaker 1: immediately jumps into our minds when we fail to focus
- 28:08Speaker 1: is I'm lazy. Right, we skip right over the action
- 28:12Speaker 1: and immediately attack our own character. We just declare I
- 28:15Speaker 1: am a fundamentally lazy person.
- 28:18Speaker 2: The word lazy is incredibly heavy, and it is almost
- 28:22Speaker 2: always inaccurate. It functions as a permanent personality attack. It
- 28:27Speaker 2: suggests an innate, unchangeable flaw in your DNA.
- 28:30Speaker 1: And if you believe that, why try Exactly?
- 28:32Speaker 2: If you believe you are fundamentally lazy, why would your
- 28:35Speaker 2: brain expend any energy trying to learn? It's a lost cause.
- 28:38Speaker 2: We need a much kinder observational reframe.
- 28:41Speaker 1: So what do we say instead of I'm lazy?
- 28:43Speaker 2: Instead of I'm lazy, you observe this state. You say
- 28:45Speaker 2: I'm having total stained focus today, or my attention is
- 28:48Speaker 2: being pulled into many directions right now.
- 28:50Speaker 1: That feels so much lighter. It separates my core identity
- 28:53Speaker 1: from my temporary state of focus. I am not a
- 28:55Speaker 1: broken person. I am just a person currently experiencing distraction.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Here's the second harsh phrase we use to punish ourselves.
- 29:03Speaker 1: I always change my method.
- 29:05Speaker 2: The danger there lies in the word always always creates
- 29:10Speaker 2: a sense of historical hopelessness. It implies a permanent, unbreakable condition.
- 29:15Speaker 1: How do we reframe that?
- 29:17Speaker 2: The reframe here is to name the specific behavioral pattern
- 29:21Speaker 2: without adopting it as an identity. Instead of I always
- 29:24Speaker 2: change my method, you tell yourself, I've been method hopping lately.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Ah. Naming it yes. If we connect this to the
- 29:31Speaker 1: bigger picture, naming a pattern externalizes the problem. It takes
- 29:36Speaker 1: it out of the realm of a character flaw and
- 29:38Speaker 1: turns it into a solvable habit. You can easily change
- 29:41Speaker 1: your core personality, but you can absolutely change a habit exactly.
- 29:45Speaker 2: It shifts the power dynamic back into your control. This
- 29:48Speaker 2: leads directly to the third catastrophic phrase, I can never
- 29:50Speaker 2: finish anything.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Never, just like always. It is such a final absolute word.
- 29:55Speaker 1: It slams the door completely shut on any possibility of
- 29:58Speaker 1: future success.
- 29:59Speaker 2: It died hates your future based entirely on your past struggles.
- 30:02Speaker 2: We need a reframe that acknowledges the historical reality while
- 30:06Speaker 2: explicitly leaving room for growth.
- 30:08Speaker 1: What's the reframe?
- 30:09Speaker 2: Instead of I can never finish anything, you say, I
- 30:12Speaker 2: often start things, but I am learning how to finish
- 30:15Speaker 2: small tasks. Oh.
- 30:16Speaker 1: I like that. I often start things, but I am
- 30:19Speaker 1: learning how to finish small tasks.
- 30:21Speaker 2: You are telling the truth about your historical tendency to start,
- 30:25Speaker 2: but you are actively inserting your new strategy finishing small
- 30:29Speaker 2: tasks into your self narrative.
- 30:32Speaker 1: It feels hopeful but also grounded in reality. And the
- 30:36Speaker 1: final reframe deals directly with that shiny object syndrome we
- 30:40Speaker 1: talked about earlier. We feel a little friction and we
- 30:43Speaker 1: immediately tell ourselves I need a new app to get
- 30:46Speaker 1: better at this, which.
- 30:47Speaker 2: As we have thoroughly established, is usually a liborn of
- 30:49Speaker 2: boredom and a craving for dopamine. Right, the reframe is
- 30:52Speaker 2: a commitment to the present moment. Before I try something new,
- 30:55Speaker 2: I will finish today's practice.
- 30:57Speaker 1: Which aligns perfectly with the behavioral role of parking the idea.
- 31:01Speaker 1: You aren't denying yourself the new app forever. You are
- 31:03Speaker 1: simply prioritizing the current tiny commitment over the impulse.
- 31:07Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, these linguistic
- 31:10Speaker 2: shifts are about creating a safe cognitive environment.
- 31:13Speaker 1: So what does this all mean when we put it together.
- 31:16Speaker 1: When I look at these reframes, I compare this internal
- 31:18Speaker 1: monologue to having a sports coach living inside your head.
- 31:22Speaker 1: Think about it. A terrible coach stands on the sidelines,
- 31:26Speaker 1: veins popping out of their neck, screaming that you are
- 31:28Speaker 1: fundamentally lazy, that you always mess up the play that
- 31:32Speaker 1: you are a deeply flawed athlete who will.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Never succeed, And how does the athlete react.
- 31:36Speaker 1: That coach spikes your cortisol, destroys your morale, and makes
- 31:40Speaker 1: you want to quit the sport entirely. But an elite coach.
- 31:45Speaker 1: An elite coach calmly observes the field. They don't attack
- 31:49Speaker 1: your character.
- 31:49Speaker 2: They look at the mechanics exactly.
- 31:52Speaker 1: They notice your footwork is off today, They point out
- 31:54Speaker 1: the specific mechanical pattern you are falling into, and they calmly,
- 31:58Speaker 1: quietly redirect your focus to the very next, small, executable step.
- 32:02Speaker 1: These reframes allow you to fire that terrible, screaming coach
- 32:06Speaker 1: and become that elite, compassionate coach for yourself.
- 32:08Speaker 2: That is an incredibly accurate way to conceptualize it. The
- 32:12Speaker 2: internal language you use dictates the neurochemical environment in which
- 32:16Speaker 2: you are trying to operate. If the environment is hostile, critical,
- 32:20Speaker 2: and flooded with stress hormones, your brain will constantly seek
- 32:24Speaker 2: an escape route.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Which usually looks like abandoning the task for a shiny
- 32:28Speaker 1: new method.
- 32:28Speaker 2: But if the internal environment is observational, patient, and safe,
- 32:33Speaker 2: you have the cognitive bandwidth required to actually engage with
- 32:37Speaker 2: the difficult, friction heavy parts of learning.
- 32:39Speaker 1: We have covered massive psychological ground today to summarize this
- 32:43Speaker 1: core journey we all need to take if we want
- 32:46Speaker 1: to achieve real mastery in any domain. We have to
- 32:49Speaker 1: stop collecting learning tools and mistaking credit card transactions for
- 32:52Speaker 1: actual progress.
- 32:53Speaker 2: That's the first step.
- 32:54Speaker 1: We have to recognize the biological trap of novelty, understanding
- 32:58Speaker 1: that boredom is not a sign of failure and excitement
- 33:01Speaker 1: is not a guarantee of success. We need to actively
- 33:04Speaker 1: protect our momentum by intentionally parking new ideas on a
- 33:07Speaker 1: sticky note. We need to take those five quiet minutes
- 33:10Speaker 1: of sensory deprivation to reset our over stimulated dopamine baselines.
- 33:15Speaker 1: We must commit to finishing just one ridiculously small thing
- 33:19Speaker 1: to prove to our brains that we can and through
- 33:22Speaker 1: it all, we must speak to ourselves with observational kindness,
- 33:25Speaker 1: eliminating the toxic finality of words like always and never.
- 33:30Speaker 2: It requires a complete paradigm shift. You are moving from
- 33:33Speaker 2: seeking constant entertainment and thrills in your learning to building sustainable, intentional,
- 33:39Speaker 2: heavily grounded habits.
- 33:40Speaker 1: But before we let you go, our expert has one
- 33:42Speaker 1: final profound thought for you to take away, a new
- 33:45Speaker 1: perspective to mull over as you step away from this
- 33:48Speaker 1: conversation and look at your own goals.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Consider this. We spend so much of our time, energy,
- 33:52Speaker 2: and money frantically searching for the perfect frictionless tool, the
- 33:56Speaker 2: ultimate technological shortcut that will magically make learning feel effortless,
- 34:00Speaker 2: constantly exciting, and perfectly optimized.
- 34:03Speaker 1: We really do.
- 34:04Speaker 2: But what if the ultimate secret shortcut to mastering any
- 34:08Speaker 2: skill in life isn't finding that perfect tool at all.
- 34:12Speaker 2: What if the real shortcut is simply cultivating the sheer,
- 34:16Speaker 2: stubborn willingness to sit quietly with the uncomfortable, unglamorous feeling
- 34:21Speaker 2: of the familiar. What is sitting with the boredom and
- 34:24Speaker 2: pushing through it is the actual required work.
- 34:28Speaker 1: The unglamorous feeling of the familiar that takes us right
- 34:30Speaker 1: back to the beginning, doesn't it. It means choosing to
- 34:33Speaker 1: embrace the messy, scratched out, half used notebook instead of
- 34:37Speaker 1: always reaching for the untouchable illusion of the brand new one.
- 34:40Speaker 2: It really does.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Thank you so much for staying with us until the
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