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3 Guys Before The Game - Neal Brown Visits (Episode 537) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Hey, everybody, what is shaking? What's going on? Yes, it
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  is time for another three Guys before the Game. We told you earlier this
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  week we would be back for a Thursday show as far as next week goes.
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  say? Senator? Is that what they Yeah? Here we go, buddy,
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  Episode five thirty seven, and look who we have here. We got
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  ourselves a special guest. He was just wandering around the lobby. We said,
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  Hey, would you mind just sitting in with us? The head football
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  coach of your West Virginia Mountaineers, Neil Brown, is our special guest.
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  I have a boat. I wouldn't quite go down. I'm a boat guy.
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  I'm a learning you're an in progress. But you got a boat.
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  They're boat guys. They got boats. Neil. You know you might
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  not realize, but I don't know. You big James Bond guy. I
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  do enjoy jaying all the James Bond movies. Whenever you see James Bond.
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  that kind of stuff. And they're the folks, all right, so here
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  we go. What we're gonna do is we're gonna do a quick little bit
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  on hoopage from last night and one more regular season game to go, and
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  then we're gonna talk about uh Mountaineer football because as we record, I think
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  we're eighteen days away from the start of Springbaull twenty five. First time you
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  go on a field Largs twenty fifth. All right, cool, cool goes
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  by quick, doesn't it. It happens fast. It happens fast. What's
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  your what is your line that you use? You say, like, what
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  is days are long, but the years are fast. That's true. They
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  say that about kids. That's that's a that's as true as statement as I
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  think has ever been uttered. Like I just had all my birthdays, you
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  know, which I don't know if our I don't know if our fans really
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  call it catch on. But I've got a birthday on February fifteenth, February
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  sixteenth, and February eighteenth. I never knew that. Yeah, birthday,
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  the birthday week. How do you guys do that? Very scheduled of you,
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  it's very scheduled. Yeah, it's very organized. So how do the
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  parties go? Each each of their own We're more into experiences than parties,
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  tony. Okay, yeah, so but no, each each day is their
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  own. And so the fifteenth and sixteenth and eighteenth, huh they have to
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  go to school that day. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's some incredible precision
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  for an inexact process. I mean, I don't want to go too far
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  off the rails. That's incredible precision in scheduling. Yeah, it's it's well
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  scheduled, you know they Uh so you got Valentine's Day and then right through
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  it and and so. But going back to the reason we're talking about this,
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  yeah is yeah please, yeah, but it happened. You know,
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  I've got a sixteen year old and I'm like, wow, like that happened
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  really fast, dude, And then did you sit been dealing with her on
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  a daily basis? That is long, Well we could. I can kind
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  of walk you through it. It's cycles, she'll be back, Yeah,
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  she'll come back. So tell me on the way to school the other day,
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  you know something something, you know, you were right about that,
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  and I'm like, whoah, I'm like, are we admitting? Oh it's
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  coming. It's all going to come back. It's all. It will all
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  come back to you. But right now you kind of look at them like
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  Martian children at times, right like who are you? And they think I
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  know nothing? Sure you don't? Yeah, don't I know? No?
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  Yeah, you know about anything? Yeah? How old are you? Now?
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  Got a birthday on Monday? Okay, forty four? Jerry West always
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  a West Virginia connection. I mean for you, that'll be an easy one.
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  All right, So is send your cards, letters, chocolates to the
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  football complex. Neil will be accepting World spring break, we spring break off
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  the shut down or may be there. She'll be there. Yeah, she'll
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  be She's always there. So all we we've learned through seven years of doing
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  this show, all we have to do is ask for stuff and people send
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  stuff. It's pretty amazing, Like we'll do this later, but over you
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  grab the one we received a perishable package today from A J, A J
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  and PA. He claims that company invented that chocolate peanut butter cup before Reces
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  did. It's called a melt away. It's like famous. So we're we're
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  gonna give you one of those days. They didn't market it fast enough.
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  They own the mountain, and we'll give you one of those on your way
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  out. You eat much sweet stuff. I don't see you eating sweet stef
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  no average amountain kind of go like during birthday palouza. There. You know
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  you have cake and you know you're you're indulging a little more completely. I
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  completely get it. Well, lot it up over. We've got a big
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  bag of m and ms. And the gentleman that gave me, the guy
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  Brunt, came over to the coliseum last night before we started the game.
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  He said, here, I want you to have these SmackDown those smack those
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  down, which is pretty neat all. Right, let's do a little basketball.
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  Then we're going to jump into football. But first we got to do
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  do do this. This is our spread zone stats segment. You know number
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  boy over there. I listened to the games side. I heard all is
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  you know the stat that jumped out to me, is we win games.
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  We have over fifty seven percent of our points. I have assist right there.
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  It is. I was listening thank you for last night. The free
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  throw rate. We have to hit forty three percent, forty four percent free
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  throw rate. Last night it was like one hundred and seventy seven percent free
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  throw rate, which we'll get to here coming in just a second. Spread
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  services. It's the Conley CPA Group, all right. Last night was a
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  number palooza. In my opinion, there were some aberrations to the numbers.
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  There was, and let's just kind of dive right in here that it's one
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  of those games where you lose by double figures, but you look up,
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  Tony. I still walked away from that game thought about this morning. That's
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  a very winnable game. West Virginia is right there, even with the hot
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  start from TCU, And it comes down to, let's jump to the positive
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  first. That second half that West Virginia had shot sixty seven percent from the
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  floor. Stupid free throw rate. How much have we talked about free throw
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  rate this year? Get to forty four percent or above, and that's a
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  win for West Virginia every time. Last night, in the second half,
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  it was a one hundred and ten percent free throw rate. I don't know
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  that I remember that. It may have happened. I don't recall that twenty
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  three free throw attempts twenty one field goal attempts. But that's also where the
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  game fell apart, right, and they just couldn't convert those free throws.
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  You did it exactly what you wanted to do. Get to line. You
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  just couldn't convert the free throws. The other part is Neil just mentioned how
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  about a seventy nine percent assist rate in the second half, which makes sense,
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  right. They were moving the ball the pick and roll, dropping it
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  down into edwards. The offense was really flowing there in the second half.
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  Total game, it fell just below the mark you need. Fifty seven percent
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  is the win mark for West Virginia. It came in about fifty five percent,
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  So second half was there. TCU's hot start making those threes early on
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  characteristic how many they took. They made them. They eventually cooled off,
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  but it was too much to overcome. You're a numbers guy, Neil.
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  Let us know from a football perspective, what through the years have you grown
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  to say those are my numbers. When you take a look at the stat
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  sheet for the first time at the end of a game, your eye goes
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  where so it starts with turnover margin, but more importantly points off turnovers.
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  Second thing, explosive plays. You know, those two things I think the
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  biggest indicators of wins and losses. Mm hmm, you're getting your explosive play
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  counter is going getting higher than yeah, no doubt, and that that's going
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  to the run based offense. That was really the point is we're going to
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  run the football, but it's also going to give us an opportunity to bring
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  people into the box we can throw over the top of them. You know,
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  we were on the top offenses in the country last year with explosive plays,
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  which a huge difference with that. Absolutely, you couldn't you couldn't,
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  like an explo your firstruggle about thirteen yards, that's an explosive play. Struggle
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  recruiting player roll two? Oh yeah, recruiting plays a roll two? Is
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  that reverse also true when you look at the opposing team? Are those the
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  two you're looking at for that? That's what that's exactly. Those are things
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  that were really and just from a stats standpoint since since Brad's on here is
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  we talk about three things and it's threes. We talk about efficiency and and
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  those are first down, the first play of a drive, which we call
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  PN ten, it's red zone efficiency, and it's third down efficiency. So
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  we talk about efficiency, we talk about explosives, and we talk about errors.
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  And we talk about errors those are self induced penalties, uh, turnovers,
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  et cetera. That's how we that's how we take all those stats to
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  just put it in those threes threes like the three eyes. Would you think
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  would you would you be would you be adverse? If we maybe like made
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  a T shirt on episode eight, Hunter dot Com just said E E E
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  three like E E E and then underneath it we'll just put success. It's
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  kind of like me. I didn't I'd be like the the Peanut Butter and
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  Chocolate Company. Yeah, you guys branded it, and we've been known,
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  we've been known to take a thing or two. All right, Uh,
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  before we jump into football, basketball is almost done. You've seen it from
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  your standpoint. You know how crazy it has been. What's your takeaway.
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  I'm a basketball fan and you got both of you guys know that this is
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  one of my favorite times of the year, just because I enjoy the basketball
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  aspect. I enjoy the competition. I like the march madness. Just being
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  in a tournament where you got a chance to win, and winners advance.
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  It's kind of survive in advance. We recruit a lot of basketball guys,
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  you know the times of the year when I can go out recruiting. In
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  January and December, you see a lot of basketball games. We use a
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  basketball to evaluate and I grew up playing. You know, I thought I
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  was going to be the next Rex Chapman until I quit growing about five ten
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  and a half. You know, I put a stop for that. Yeah,
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  but I do. I really appreciate basketball. So I watch it from
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  a fan standpoint. And during December and January, when I go to the
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  games, and I try to go to all the home games. When I
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  go, I'm actually working. And then we get into February Arch and I
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  go to the games. I'm able to watch and and so I follow the
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  team. I watch all the games. I'm even there. I watch the
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  games, and I think the thing that sticks out to me the most and
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  is Josh Eilert is a true mountaineer and I and I really I was excited
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  for him to when he got started, and man, just so proud of
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  how he's handled adversity. And when I talk when I think about mountaineers or
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  you know, you know West Virginians just in general, like one of the
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  first things that comes to my mind is tough. And you talk about an
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  individual who's really symbolized that. From the time that he was placed in charge
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  of the basketball program, it's been Josh Eiler and not just Josh, but
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  Josh and Brandy and their three kids, you know, adverse circumstances. I
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  don't know if you can be put in a in a more difficult position and
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  getting the job late and then you're being in flux, you know, all
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  the way through the start of school. And because most of everybody says,
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  well basketball is year to year, well that's accurate, but most of these
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  teams are put together and they start sometime in May. Okay, well ours
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  really wasn't until school had started, and then dealing with the injuries, and
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  then just it's hard when things snowball and things are negative, and he has
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  been just so resilient and so tough, and just watching it as a fan,
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  you know, I think the one thing that's really kind of gone under
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  the radar is like we've been really efficient offensively, and those are some stats
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  that Brad was talking about. I just watched, you know, think about
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  this, you know, I think from basketball one of the things that I
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  pay attention to, just because I'm looking at through a coach's lens, it's
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  like we've been good out of timeouts, like offensively, and that's what I
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  think Jish has done a really nice job from an offensive standpoint. And it's
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  fortunate though to go to a shoot around a couple of weeks ago and those
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  guys believe in him. And and and I hate that the year's gone the
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  way it's it's gone. But for somebody that's put in as many years,
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  is it was it six seventeen that for him seventeen seventeen years. I hope
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  our fans and supporters of our men's basketball program really appreciate what he's done because
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  he's had to take it on the channel light this year. And man,
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  he's answered the bell every single time. And and I hope that man,
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  our guys compete. And I don't know what the result is going to be,
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  but man, I hope our guys really really compete when they go to
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  Kansas City. I think things well said, thing as well said, And
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  I think you know this because you've been in the business long enough. Sometimes
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  it's the painful learning processes that will help him down the road. Absolutely.
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  And here's the thing too, Like I think I might even toe Josh like
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  there's no preparation for being a head coach, you know, Like and you
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  think you know what it's going to be, like you think you're day to
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  day, you know what it's going to be like, but until you're that
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  in that seat, you don't know. And and most people like you know
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  the different. When I got my first head coaching job, I got it
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  in December. First, I didn't play a game until the end of August,
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  you know, so there's about ten months where you're kind of figuring it
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  out. Well, when he got the job, you know, I think
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  less than three months they're playing, And that's a really difficult transition, and
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  I'm very thankful for that. My first job was at the group of five
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  level, you know, because like I made a bunch of mistakes. I
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  made a bunch of mistakes my first couple of years here, and and you
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  learn right and you're able to grow, and it's just a tough transition,
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  you know. But I'll say, this man is in and I believe this
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  is when you want to talk about the epitome of toughness. Like Josh Eiler
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  and Brandy and those kids, they've been tough and they've answered it all season
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  long. So you know, I say that I appreciate what he's done.
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  Yeah, he refused from day one to play the role of a victim.
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  He said I'm not going to play the role of a victim. He didn't
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  point fingers at hasn't made one excuse, no, not a player once.
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  It hasn't pointed a finger at a player once the entire year, hasn't pointed
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  a finger at schedule or anything. He just said, all right here what
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  he did. He has gone. He has talked about injuries. He hasn't
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  you know, and in in our fan base like he deserves to be.
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  You know, he should be well thought of because he's he's really stood and
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  and and he's taught a lot of life lessons, in my opinion, said
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  perfectly said, I agree with you. All right, let's jump into football.
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  I don't know if you know this or not. You were in the
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  news this week. That's what I heard. You heard you heard that sod
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  thing I was. I was off the grid for a little while. I
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  was actually down in uh in Somersville and didn't have great phone service. Now
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  you missed a little cell down here. You get into some of the nooks
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  and crannies nineteen and you're probably fine. You go down there a little bit,
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  I mean, you get away a little bit. What was your goal
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  in the contract talks? What were you trying to accomplish, Well, it
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  wasn't that I was necessarily trying to accomplish. We've got really good momentum going,
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  and I think the goal of everybody involved was to continue the momentum.
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  I'm excited about it. I'm really excited about what our future looks like here
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  myself individually, but more importantly our program. You know, talking about my
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  kids earlier in brook like really happy right here in Morgantown, and it's been
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  a great spot to raise our three kids. They're at an age where transition
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  is not something we're interested in, and it's close to both our families,
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  you know, and that really hit home. Brooks grandmother passed away back in
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  early February and found out late on a Thursday night, and she's home mid
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  morning on Friday, you know, And so when things like that happen,
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  being in close proximity really drives that home. And so you know, they
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  and just creates some stability for the program. Not necessarily for myself, but
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  for our program. It was big. You know, I really believe this
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  and I was really raised this way, as I think it's important for you
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  to have skin in the game. You know, there's The only quote that
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  we really have in our in our kind of our coaching wing is on leadership,
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  and it's from more and Buffeting, and it says people do what people
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  see. And I think like it was important for me that that have some
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  skin in the game because I think it it says the right things. And
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  then you know, our assistance in our our assistant coaches and our support staff
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  is we got a big organization. You're in our building a good bit,
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  So I think you have an appreciation for that. Whether people outside understand it
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  in full scope, I'm not sure. But we've got a lot of people
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  that make this organization go and and I wanted to make sure that they got
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  rewarded, and so did Ren. And so I'm just really thankful that we're
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  able to get this thing done. I'm thankful for our board and doctor Gee
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  and Wren for for getting it together. When you look at it as far
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  as the portion where you want to give back into the program, what will
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  this allow you to do? What other things that you want to do to
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  your staff? Yeah, So I think the most important thing is right now,
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  as important as anything that we have, is retention. And so when
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  we talk about retention, you know, you have to lead with the trust,
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  right. I think that's the number one, you know ingredient to keeping
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  players on your roster and the ones that are really important. You know,
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  they're all important, but the ones that are really critical to your success,
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  right, is them being able to earn you know, name, image,
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  likeness. And our trust has come really a long way. And I credit
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  the leadership Ken Kendrick, Oliver, Luck, the board they put together,
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  Stephen Ford who runs it on a daily basis. It's been a growing process,
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  but we feel like we feel really positive at the momentum we have going
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  there, and so the trust allows us to retain. And then the second
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  thing is we talk about experience, and that's what I and so when I
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  talk about experience, you know, our support leads really helped create that experience.
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  And for us in our support areas, we're trying to be a differentiator,
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  and so we've really we've made the choice to and with the support of
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  the administration. Is one of the differentiators for us is our support areas.
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  And it's nutrition, Like we've got two full time nutritionists now, we've got
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  a whole team of interns, we got a chef that works with football,
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  it goes to strength conditioning. You know, not only Mike and his staff,
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  but what we've done from a sports science and recovery, we've really been
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  able to differentiator stuff. We have a sports psychologist that's in the building every
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  day. Now that's a huge step, not only helping with sports, but
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  mental health, you know, athletic training. You know, we've got some
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  great people there. We've got all the technologies you can possibly have. And
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  so you talk about retention and all right, experience, I mean we talked
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  about retention. You talk about trust in the experience, and the leads in
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  those areas are so important, and so that's not even mentioned fifth quarter.
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  Yeah, yeah, and in fifth quarter and academics, you know, and
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  and so when you talk about academics, what we've been able to do theirs,
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  you know, it doesn't get talked about a lot because some of the
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  focus on academics is kind of lost now and I do I do understand it.
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  I don't lessly agree with it, but I understand it. We've graduated
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  one hundred percent of our guys. Then our fifth quarter program that John Chambers
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  has made possible is really man, it's really grown, It's created opportunities again
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  differentiate ourselves from the people that we're competing against. And so, you know,
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  I think as we get as we got going in after the season and
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  and talking to Ren and Steve Yerius was critical in this as well, is
• 22:02
  man, how do we continue the momentum? How do we continue making sure
• 22:06
  that the experience that our players are having is really second to none. And
• 22:11
  so when you have those recruits come in, that's your selling point now where
• 22:15
  you didn't have all of those items when you first got here, Now you
• 22:19
  can say, Okay, this is how we're going to take care of you.
• 22:22
  Yeah, and it looks like it paid results. Yeah, And that's
• 22:23
  what now we can we can tell stories of not only the team, but
• 22:27
  also the individuals and so and really for just big picture of you is I
• 22:33
  would love for this to be a launching point. I would love for for
• 22:36
  West Virginia football to be a launching point. You know, like just on
• 22:41
  the football side, don't want position coaches to be coordinators, coordinators to be
• 22:42
  head coaches, you know, and no different in our support leads. I'd
• 22:48
  love for our assistant strength coaches to go be head strength coaches. You know.
• 22:51
  I'd love for our assistant athletic trainers could be head athletic trainers, you
• 22:53
  know. Sure. And to do that, okay, you've got to have
• 22:57
  salaries where you can when you're a launching point, you've got to be able
• 23:00
  to attract those people, right. If you lose an assistance, you've got
• 23:03
  to be able to pay well enough to go higher and equal, right,
• 23:07
  And so that's something that I think really probably the older I get, the
• 23:12
  more I really feel like a strong pull to do that, to make this
• 23:18
  an opportunity because some people are going to move now. I never want to
• 23:22
  move latterly, you know, I think, And we haven't. We've been
• 23:25
  very fortunate, we've we haven't. We have We've had very few people that
• 23:27
  have done that. But we want people to launch from from from our football
• 23:32
  program and be equipped and then launch them. And and I think that you
• 23:37
  know, we've been able to do that, and we want to continue to
• 23:40
  do that. Let's sound staffed for a second. And nutrition is the one
• 23:44
  thing, and the strength and conditioning. It's not the analyst part of things,
• 23:47
  because I think a lot of us talk about analysts. We hear about
• 23:49
  that. We've had Drew in that chair many times talked about the personnel departments,
• 23:53
  those continue to really grow. Is that an area that's still continuing to
• 23:57
  grow. Is it starting to level off? What's the next wave of X
• 24:02
  and O football support that's coming? Well, I think I think everybody's kind
• 24:04
  of wait and see, you know, what's the and what I mean by
• 24:07
  that, what is the next step? What does college athletics look like two
• 24:11
  years from now? What does it look like five years from now? And
• 24:14
  and I'm not sure that anybody can can it would sit in this chair and
• 24:17
  give you a really clear vision, you know, of where we're going.
• 24:21
  So I think some of the staff from a growth standpoint, it's probably idle
• 24:25
  for right now. What we have is we've got two analysts on on offense,
• 24:29
  two analysts on defense, and then an analyst on on in special teams.
• 24:34
  And that's very doable right now. And those roles are so critical,
• 24:38
  you know, like you talk about those in the graduate assistance, the work
• 24:42
  that gets done behind the scenes, and that's that's a huge thing for you
• 24:48
  guys. Absolutely. And the other thing too, is is through that analyst
• 24:52
  pool, you're growing your your pool of potential assistance. You know, we
• 24:55
  took advantage of just did. Yeah, we'll take and we'll talk a little
• 24:57
  bit of that here in a minute. And I'm sure, but those individuals
• 25:03
  do so much work behind the scenes, and now they can recruit as well.
• 25:06
  They can't go off campus, but they can recruit when guys are on
• 25:08
  campus and then on the telephone or zoom or whatever. And so those are
• 25:12
  critical, critical positions. And when you're on field, staff okay, is
• 25:18
  are accountable coaches. However you want to refer to them when they're out on
• 25:21
  the road. You got to think about December, January, in May,
• 25:25
  man they're gone, and then during July you got to give your staff some
• 25:27
  time off and even in February some time off because it's become a year round
• 25:33
  it is year round, and so when the position coaches are gone, you
• 25:40
  have to have these support staff members and analysts and graduate assistants are in the
• 25:45
  building to continue to grow the relationship and keep a thumb on what the pulse
• 25:48
  of the team is or the pulse of each individual player. And to your
• 25:52
  point, you want to make this a launching point that gives those people invaluable
• 25:56
  experience so that when they do become assistant coach, which is they have,
• 26:00
  so to speak, recruited because they've been doing that already in the build,
• 26:03
  kind of like the training program to get out there. I think about this
• 26:06
  a lot. I think that people in general are motivated by one or two
• 26:12
  ways, usually a commodation of both. It's either financially they're being well compensated,
• 26:18
  or their compensation is improving, or they feel like they're really growing,
• 26:22
  you know. And and so we know that, and part of this contract
• 26:27
  was leaning toward that to help compensate compensation. And then in house, it's
• 26:33
  always been our goal is to really grow people, you know, be clear
• 26:37
  with our rose and responsibilities and this thing. I think that's something every organization
• 26:41
  tries to and we're a work in progress. By no means that we arrive,
• 26:45
  but we want to make sure that the people in our building are clear
• 26:48
  with their roles. We allow them to grow, and again hopefully we're preparing
• 26:52
  them for whatever's next. Let's talk roster retention and then resupplying the roster.
• 27:00
  But we go back and I think of the spring that we had when players
• 27:06
  bolted and just like to you could use any word you want bolted. We
• 27:12
  got gutted on defense. It seems to me as though you have done a
• 27:17
  one point eighty in that category. In regard to keeping those for the most
• 27:22
  part, you're never going to hit a hundred percent, but keeping those that
• 27:25
  you wanted and then immediately filling the voids when those holes and opportunities arose,
• 27:32
  That's my takeaway. Would you give me what you thought this past off season
• 27:37
  has been for you in those two categories. Yeah, So I think when
• 27:41
  you look back is and that's why I'm always when you talk about retention is
• 27:45
  it's trust and experience. Well, from the trust perspective, when we lost
• 27:51
  I think what six defensive starters between the bowl game in Arizona to spring practice
• 27:57
  in twenty two, I guess when we lost those guys is the trust was
• 28:04
  just now taken off and we didn't have the finances available to be able to
• 28:10
  compete. And so now I think you fast forward, and again that's why
• 28:15
  I'm always really quick to credit Ken Kendrick, who man what he's doing for
• 28:21
  the trust, but then just having the baseball stadium, which is you know,
• 28:26
  he and his family have gone above and beyond to not only help his
• 28:30
  home state but in his university, but really athletics in general. So very
• 28:34
  thankful for him. But the trust is now in a totally different spot here
• 28:40
  winter spring of twenty four than it was winter spring of twenty two. So
• 28:45
  a lot of credit to everyone that's involved, corporate sponsorships, donors, Kendrick
• 28:48
  family, Oliver Luck, Stephen Ford, all those people, and so we're
• 28:52
  in a much better position. And then now we've been able to put a
• 28:56
  game plan together about retention, you know, And I always talk to our
• 29:00
  assistance about, Okay, what's the role of assistant coach? Well, I
• 29:03
  think there's the main role is you is you support the mission and the vision
• 29:07
  of the head coach. But then it goes to it's about recruiting whatever you're
• 29:12
  in charge of, whatever position you have, It's about developing that room,
• 29:15
  both as a man and as a player. And then it's retaining. And
• 29:19
  there's a lot that goes into retention, you know. It's the relationship piece,
• 29:22
  the experience piece, you know, are they growing you know, are
• 29:26
  they getting better? You know? So that's what we talk about, and
• 29:30
  now we have some good kind of a twelve month year plan about how we
• 29:37
  go about the process of retention. And you're never going to be perfect,
• 29:41
  and I think you and I have talked about this bunch. It used to
• 29:45
  be, man, every time we had somebody leave our program, I felt
• 29:47
  like it was a gut punch. It was a personal referendum on something that
• 29:52
  wasn't going right. And now not that it doesn't bother me when we lose
• 29:57
  a talented player, where like we lost a a talented D lineman after the
• 30:00
  Bowl game, I still take that hard, but it's not. My immediate
• 30:10
  reaction is rather than oh, man, like this stinks, my media reaction
• 30:14
  is, Okay, well, we've got to go. We've got a hold
• 30:15
  that we need to go fill or who that's already on our roster is developing
• 30:19
  where they can fill that role. And so we've got a long we got
• 30:22
  a we got a really good process for handling retention right now and then when
• 30:26
  it comes back is we feel like over the last two years, whether it
• 30:32
  was Matt Jansen before now it's with Drew is we've got a really good plan
• 30:37
  about how we attack the transfer portal, and not only from an evaluation,
• 30:42
  but how we recruit those guys and how we go about building our roster.
• 30:48
  And it's not just December early January, it's spring summer. It's a continuing
• 30:52
  process. What did Beanie Bishops blossoming this season do for you in this current
• 30:59
  recruiting Well, you always tell stories, right, I think that, you
• 31:03
  know, we're in the storytelling business, not unlike you know anybody else that's
• 31:07
  marketing. You know, three guys, we're storytelling, no doubts, storytellers.
• 31:12
  You're telling your story in and for us, like especially with with the
• 31:17
  defensive backs and defensive recruits in general, what a great story And you don't
• 31:22
  it's they can go check online, they can check Twitter, they can check
• 31:27
  Instagram, whatever they want, and they're gonna see the same thing. Is
• 31:32
  as Beanie was, this was a nickel or a third corner at Minnesota.
• 31:36
  He came here and through his work and then the help of our support staff
• 31:41
  and Shadan and our defensive scheme, you know, and his production is he
• 31:45
  left here is the thirteenth consensus all American and in West Virginia football history.
• 31:48
  And we call that now we say on three guys, he blowed up that
• 31:56
  because I mean, you know, you're, you know, your normal middle
• 31:59
  aged white guys that are hip, right, Yeah, you might say that
• 32:01
  in Kentucky too. He got he got he blowed up by the way he
• 32:05
  tapped me on the shoulder at the end of the TCU game. He was
• 32:07
  there. He went watched Mountaineers played TCU, Beanie did. Beanie is great
• 32:12
  individual And you know I always say this every time you green him up.
• 32:15
  Not only was he really productive on the field, man, he really helped
• 32:17
  that room. Yeah, and showed him how to work, how he prepared,
• 32:22
  and that been a that'd been a room. That man had been a
• 32:28
  struggle, you know, and we're having a much This is the best winner
• 32:31
  our secondary's had and it's not even close. Good And even though Beanie's not
• 32:36
  here, he's a reason behind that. He's one of the reasons why you
• 32:39
  said that. From the very beginning, like right when he stepped on all
• 32:42
  your interview, he was high on the Brown Mentioned Index. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:46
  high on the BMI. Just a very mature he had a mature approach
• 32:53
  and he's changed. Like you learn, you know, like every time you
• 32:58
  go through something and you do it, you learn. And you know,
• 33:01
  I think early on we were going through the portal, we were just trying
• 33:04
  the best available. Now we're trying to find the best fit, not only
• 33:10
  positionally but also for the program that we're that we're building here. It makes
• 33:15
  sense given we've had a couple of years of this, But listening to you
• 33:17
  talk through that stuff now, is that the biggest change with the We always
• 33:22
  say out here there's no rules, So I get where that would be extremely
• 33:25
  hard in your position to what can we do, what can't we do?
• 33:28
  What should we do? What shouldn't do? The process. You've mentioned process
• 33:31
  now a couple of times. It seems like you're much more locked in on
• 33:35
  exactly how all of this works than you were when it started, which is
• 33:38
  obviously made a difference in filling those needs. YEA, absolutely, and we've
• 33:45
  gone through the rules are are really gray. I'm not really sure. We
• 33:51
  tend to say on this process it's like this, I know you've got to
• 33:54
  sign a compliance sheet, so we'll just say there's no rules. You don't
• 33:58
  have to no rules. I always said this. My freshman basketball coach told
• 34:00
  me this, And this is one of those things that always sticks out to
• 34:04
  me is he would always say, before we left the locker room, listen
• 34:09
  early on, learn what the rules of the game are, and then playbomb
• 34:14
  because every basketball game is officiated differently. Yes, and I will say this
• 34:17
  too. Is going back to Josh. He got screwed in calls this year.
• 34:22
  Oh, he's taken because he because like he's new and he has an
• 34:28
  interim like we have taken it on the chin officiating. If you look at
• 34:31
  the end of that Kansas State game on the road, that's gross. But
• 34:35
  anyway, I probably shouldn't say anything more about that because I'll get I'll probably
• 34:38
  get myself in trouble. But Sparky over here yesterday was sitting next to me
• 34:42
  there during that game and he was stunned when he saw official use improper language
• 34:47
  at Josh during the game. Yeah. Well, in fact, during that
• 34:52
  moment, I was advocating for Josh to get a town. Yeah, it's
• 34:57
  or a head butt. Anyway, it's probably on Ray Kwon block that you
• 35:00
  can't you can't have a back if I was last night. You take it
• 35:06
  to the basket, you throw it up, you're get a foul. But
• 35:07
  anyway, moving on, So I lost my train thought. But going back
• 35:12
  to like in basketball, it's true though, you learn what because every game
• 35:15
  is officiated a little bit different, right, So you learn what the rules
• 35:19
  of the game are and then you play bound. Well, that's kind of
• 35:22
  the way that that I approach things in general, is like, Okay,
• 35:27
  let's learn what the rules of the game are. As soon as we know
• 35:28
  what the rules of the game are, let's go play bound. Well,
• 35:30
  the thing that's you know, let's let's take this deal where all of a
• 35:34
  sudden, we can transfer more than once, which I realized we had a
• 35:37
  part in not we as an athlete. Yeah, so all of a sudden,
• 35:42
  you have you how you're planning your roster and decisions you make. If
• 35:47
  you think guys can only transfer one time, that's a big deal. Well,
• 35:52
  all of a sudden right in the middle. That'd be like going in
• 35:54
  the basketball game. The first half we're gonna call every hand check, and
• 35:58
  then the second half of the game is you can as long as there's no
• 36:00
  blood and there's no foul. Well, that's vastly different for how you're gonna
• 36:04
  play. Well, that's what happened to us, you know, right in
• 36:07
  the middle of the portal season. Oh, we're gonna second time transfers can
• 36:10
  leave. Yeah, and that's so I just want to know what the rules
• 36:13
  are, and so there'll be some benefits to West Virginia. There'll be some
• 36:16
  things that they hurt us. But let's let's know what the rules are so
• 36:20
  we can go playbound. And so that's something I struggle with. But we
• 36:23
  do have from an evaluation process and how we're dealing with our trust and all
• 36:28
  those things. I think we have good, good plans, good processes.
• 36:30
  We're always looking to make them better. But I feel good about the about
• 36:35
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• 37:53
  I do with that. Like you just let you just let it go.
• 37:58
  When it does, you just let it go. And then now we move
• 38:00
  on. Well, we still got to do the voting thing a little bit
• 38:02
  later too. Well that's a little bit easier to address than it. Yeah,
• 38:07
  he's got a vote, I think he's what he's saying. Okay,
• 38:09
  So something new I was thinking about this morning. You're going into a spring
• 38:15
  season. We're like, you've got an identified quarterback that's one games, that
• 38:22
  started games. It's proven for you. You got two running backs. Speaking
• 38:24
  of retention, I mean like we just kind of put it in passing.
• 38:29
  Jehem White and CJ. Donaldson are coming back. Like when CJ. Donaldson
• 38:35
  two years ago had his game against Pitt. I remember walking out of Pitt
• 38:37
  Stadium and going are they gonna come after him now? And then jaheem,
• 38:42
  he's making playoffs. They're gonna come up. And you kept them. And
• 38:45
  you got two proven running backs, and you got to proven quarterback, and
• 38:49
  you got receivers that have made plays. This has got to be a lot
• 38:52
  offensive lineman and a lot of offensive linemen. This has got to be like
• 38:54
  Okay, so I would imagine that you were protocol and what you're trying to
• 38:59
  do one spring is probably at a more advanced level than in past springs.
• 39:04
  Well, the goal is to keep improving, right and for us, I
• 39:08
  think it's about taking the next step, you know, and backs against the
• 39:12
  wall, mine our staff, the players, our backs against the wall and
• 39:16
  while it didn't go perfect, we made a big stride last year and now
• 39:21
  it's about continuing that, you know. And you talk about Garrett, you
• 39:24
  know, I think because Garrett is getting all kinds of attention right now,
• 39:29
  Well he didn't necessarily get that attention a year ago, even though he had
• 39:32
  success at the end of the year, you know, he really didn't get
• 39:35
  that attention. And so now how does he do that? You know?
• 39:38
  And the thing that he has to do and the challenge for him is,
• 39:43
  you know, for all the things that he did at a really high level,
• 39:45
  and I could go, you know, he threw the deep ball,
• 39:50
  Well, we were extremely explosive man. He had lived in like he created
• 39:53
  explosive runs, like what we did in the run game, Like he was
• 39:57
  a huge part of that and only carrying it, but having the threat of
• 40:00
  him carrying it. And there were so many positives he brought in. And
• 40:04
  I'm just talking about tangent. I'm not talking about the n tangible, the
• 40:06
  leadership, its competitiveness and things like that. But at the end of the
• 40:09
  day, he was a fifty three percent passer, you know, And so
• 40:14
  how does he make the jump like a bow knicks? Because Bo Nicks was
• 40:16
  in the fifties early in his career and then all of a sudden, he's
• 40:20
  seventy three, you know, like, oh, exactly right, Yeah,
• 40:22
  so how does Garrett Green do that? Right? Nico? You know,
• 40:28
  Nico has made big strides, right, and so you know, I don't
• 40:30
  know when, but at some point this fall like Nico's gonna have to play
• 40:34
  and go win us games. And I think he continues to push, like
• 40:37
  he'll be able to win us the games and not just help us be in
• 40:42
  games. He'll help us. He'll be a reason why we win a game,
• 40:45
  you know. And then CJ is not real happy about how he played
• 40:47
  last year and deservedly sold but he played better in the second half of the
• 40:51
  year, and he played injured, and I don't think our fan base really
• 40:53
  appreciates that. Like, he played injured, got shoulder surgery. He's going
• 40:59
  to be back, and man, his body looks totally different. When people
• 41:02
  see him for the first time in a uniform again, they're going to be
• 41:06
  like, oh, okay, I know what he's been doing, you know.
• 41:07
  Like, and so I think the whole thing is, is man really
• 41:13
  pushing us to take the next step. The thing we talked about offensively,
• 41:19
  and we do. We have a lot of alignment coming back. We've got
• 41:22
  a lot of our skill guys. You know, for me, it's about,
• 41:25
  Okay, how do we push Jeem White to not have the sophomore so?
• 41:30
  How do we push him to be not just a really good player?
• 41:32
  How is he going to be the best back in our league? Right?
• 41:35
  How to cee j build off some of the success he had year one and
• 41:38
  some of the success he has year two now he's fully healthy? All right,
• 41:42
  how does our old line? Oh, Zach Fraser's gone right? Okay,
• 41:45
  Well, everybody says we're going to take a step back. How do
• 41:46
  they prove that our collective is going to be better? You know, we
• 41:50
  got these young receivers, like, how are they going to take the next
• 41:53
  step? Then? Defensive we've got the most depth we've ever had, you
• 41:57
  know, especially in the defensive backfield. Like, how are the new p
• 42:00
  that we brought in? How is that going to jail? Like? How
• 42:01
  do we continue? Because we and the other thing too is like year two
• 42:06
  in both of our schemes. Right, we tried to undersell this a little
• 42:08
  bit last year because we went our opponents to know, but we made a
• 42:10
  complete one eighty on offense what we were doing, and then defensively we go
• 42:15
  from a four man front to three man front and change what we were doing
• 42:19
  defensively. So now this is we had a spring, a fall camp,
• 42:22
  a season. Now we're starting this process again where we returned so many players
• 42:28
  and the scheme's not different. Yeah, and not only is the scheme not
• 42:31
  different, you get to keep layering stuff on top of it. Yes,
• 42:35
  last year you had to love that as an offensive coordinator guy, with all
• 42:37
  the different things you were able to do. We talked on the show about
• 42:40
  Steve Dunlap was as part of our broadcast, sit two Inches from You don't
• 42:44
  have a bigger fan of the world than Steve Dunlap and what you were able
• 42:46
  to do creatively last year giving the same look, running multiple plays off that
• 42:51
  same look. Sat there with tons of games with him and he just kept
• 42:54
  saying, this is unbelievable. What you're doing unbelievable. The defense has no
• 42:57
  idea what's coming here. So that's got to be a thrill for you.
• 42:59
  Right, those guys understand and execute, you can keep layering things on top
• 43:02
  of that. Yeah, and what we want to do I appreciate Steve saying
• 43:05
  that what we want to do offensively is make it really easy for our quarterback
• 43:07
  and our offensive line where we can get really good at the same thing over
• 43:12
  and over, but we present it in a bunch of different ways, and
• 43:15
  I think that's the key for us continue to move forward. And then defensively,
• 43:21
  I think that's where you're going to see. You know, we were
• 43:22
  really vanilla last year, and the reason we were doing that is because,
• 43:28
  man, we wanted to really focus on the fundamentals of football, just getting
• 43:30
  lined up, being able to tackle, et cetera. Now you're two in
• 43:36
  the scheme, you know, we can start mixing up where we can be
• 43:39
  a little bit more aggressive at times than we were a year ago. We
• 43:42
  can maybe play some different coverage looks that really help us out. Yeah,
• 43:47
  So what is the next iteration of this offense look like? Well, I
• 43:52
  think is we've got to be better at throwing the football. You know.
• 43:57
  Okay, let me jump in and interrupt my interrupt yourself. One of the
• 44:00
  biggest things you talked about during last season was Garrett's fundamentals and feet placement and
• 44:07
  body hold and making going from fifty three to seventy three for him, to
• 44:12
  me is kind of an oddity in that it's not the long ball he's got
• 44:15
  that, it's the short and the intermediate. So how do you think he's
• 44:19
  done? What are you hearing that he's done this offseason? Real quickly,
• 44:21
  they used a basketball termatal he said making layups. Yeah, right, that's
• 44:23
  what you need, that's what you need more of. So for him,
• 44:28
  like we knew these things, like when you're in practice, it's no different
• 44:31
  than than a lot of the people that are listening and that play golf.
• 44:36
  Right, you can execute a shot on the range, but all of a
• 44:39
  sudden you got you got a few dollars on it, or if you're playing
• 44:43
  in a tournament, you know, like it's a little bit different when all
• 44:45
  of a sudden you got to execute that. You know, for Brad,
• 44:50
  I'm sure about one seventy five pitching witch right, you know, because he's
• 44:52
  strong, but strong with now. But but when you're sitting there and you're
• 44:57
  in the fairway and you got to execute, all right, a shot into
• 45:00
  the green or you got to get up and down, you know, it's
• 45:04
  a little different when there's something on the line. Well, so last year
• 45:07
  with Garrett as we went through the year, like I knew the problems,
• 45:12
  right or Sean Reagan or Tyler Allen. We knew what the issues were,
• 45:15
  but I didn't want him thinking, you know, so we tinker a little
• 45:20
  bit, but I wanted him be a reactive player. But as soon as
• 45:23
  we the Bowl game was over, man, we really started this process.
• 45:28
  Okay, of Hey, fundamentally, we've got to get better. And so
• 45:32
  he works with a guy named David Morris. That's Quarterback Country's automobile. And
• 45:37
  David has built a great like quarterback training business and now he's got franchises in
• 45:45
  different places across the Southeast. And I think, I think a lot of
• 45:49
  the guy, and but Garrett's worked with him. And so what we've done
• 45:54
  is we've come up with really a collective approach about understanding that we may have
• 46:00
  to go backwards to go forward, but from a fundamental standpoint, you know,
• 46:04
  by the time we start fall camp is the plan is for him to
• 46:08
  be much much improved. And credit Garrett Man, he's really worked, you
• 46:12
  know, And I put the onus on him. I'm like, this is
• 46:14
  your personal development, Like I want to be part of it. Tyler needs
• 46:17
  to be part of it. But this is like you're grown, Like this
• 46:21
  needs to be part of you, you know, because this next year is
• 46:24
  going to determine, Like I really think that he's going to be a professional
• 46:29
  football player, Like I believe that with every renouncement, Like he's going to
• 46:31
  be a professional football player. Okay, but his ability to be more efficient
• 46:37
  in the past game is going to determine kind of where and what and and
• 46:40
  so in credit to him so far is man, he's really working, and
• 46:45
  it's a he's a very much working process. But it's a nine month We
• 46:49
  started this thing right after the bowl game and then the fall camp. Is
• 46:52
  being more efficient and quick game, being better on third down, and he's
• 46:58
  making strides. He still got some work to do. We still got to
• 47:01
  put him in some pressure situations. But I'm really there's no reason why he
• 47:07
  can't make a big jump. Even though he was one of our best players
• 47:12
  last year, there's no reason why he can't make the biggest jump on our
• 47:14
  team. He was one of the best in the country. His numbers were
• 47:17
  staggering last year when you stack him up nationally. That wasn't just I said
• 47:21
  this bunch. It wasn't just a good season. He had a good national
• 47:23
  season compared to anybody you want to pick out in the country. The thing
• 47:28
  that had to strike you though, all the physical stuff you knew about that
• 47:31
  you knew the ability to take off and pick up first downs on third down.
• 47:34
  His decision making was incredible, and you talked a lot previous about his
• 47:38
  decision making was critical. Could not turn it over, man, he didn't
• 47:42
  last year. So the mental side of what he brought was a was an
• 47:45
  unbelievable season for him as well, not just fasically well, and it's been
• 47:49
  a process, you know, and he's grown and I think really if you
• 47:53
  go back rewind into January twenty three, from a mental standpoint, his mindset
• 47:59
  just changed, you know, and like you never know when it's going to
• 48:00
  click, it clicked for him. And I think I've said this before publicly,
• 48:06
  is like, you know, he came in in COVID, right,
• 48:09
  so you got two practices and then that was technically his high school senior spring
• 48:15
  and then playing the fall. We really thought of spring of twenty one all
• 48:20
  right here, like he split the reps. Man, I think he's gonna
• 48:22
  take make a jump, and it just wasn't ready fast forward spring of twenty
• 48:27
  two. You know, we didn't take a portal quarterback. You know,
• 48:30
  is he ready? We thought he may be ready. Hey, he just
• 48:34
  wasn't quite ready. And when he was ready was at Oklahoma game. You
• 48:37
  know, And really that's not exactly like in our our our scrimmages we do.
• 48:44
  On Monday, he started showing a lot of progress. And so going
• 48:49
  into that, I'm like, he's ready to play. He's ready to be
• 48:51
  a starter. You know, he's ready if JT doesn't like he's ready,
• 48:55
  and and so. And then last spring, like he just kind of spring
• 49:00
  fall camp. You know, he clearly had had made the strides necessary to
• 49:06
  be the starting quarterback. Did being the starter help him mentality wise? He
• 49:09
  didn't have to just come in and try and make a bunch of plays.
• 49:13
  Do you think that settled him a little or no? I don't. I
• 49:15
  don't know if that had a really big factor in it. I just think
• 49:17
  that I don't think that he ever thought he wasn't going to be you know,
• 49:22
  And and so his mind works a little bit different, like he's been
• 49:24
  on your show, so like familiar with his word. We don't have a
• 49:29
  confidence problem, right, and so he Uh, you know, I don't.
• 49:35
  I don't. I don't think that necessarily. I think that he was
• 49:39
  really confident in his understanding of what to what to do, right, So
• 49:45
  I think the game had slowed down for him and he really studied opposing defenses
• 49:52
  and he felt really comfortable with what we were doing offense. Oh my god.
• 49:53
  He just didn't force many throws. There was that one headed towards the
• 49:57
  hospital. We talked about it with on the show where it was kind of
• 50:00
  a heat check. He was rolling a little bit, tried to jam on
• 50:01
  in there that and I'm sure you have a couple others. That's about the
• 50:05
  only one you can remember where he just flat tried to force the throw.
• 50:07
  He just did not do it all season long. Yeah, that's hard,
• 50:09
  man. He didn't. And what we tried to instill in him is there's
• 50:14
  no reason to force because just run. You know, like, what's the
• 50:19
  best thing you do. Let's let's you know, like you got a quick
• 50:21
  release, and but the best thing you do is run, So let's not
• 50:24
  inhibit the best thing that you do. You have an interesting relationship with him.
• 50:30
  I personally like it because like, you cut him no slack. I
• 50:32
  mean, you coach him probably like you would coach your son. Yeah,
• 50:37
  I mean so, And I think there's that respect and he's one of these
• 50:39
  dudes. If I'm not mistaken, you would agree with this that you know,
• 50:44
  there's the old thing like I'd rather have to tell someone loe than sick
• 50:47
  them. He's like all sick of them. So you've had to you've had
• 50:51
  to bring him down and now you're at that point where okay, now we're
• 50:53
  coming back out there. But like you talk about a classic West Virginia quarterback,
• 50:59
  he's tough, he's fearless. I mean he was at the hunting fishing
• 51:01
  show there last weekend. He fit right in, Like if you didn't know
• 51:05
  he was the quarterback, you thought he would be one of the guys in
• 51:07
  the booth tables. Yeah, he's out a little bit. He's a little
• 51:10
  bit of chameleon. He can count. He's got the wardrobe that he can
• 51:13
  fit in. He can do the hunting wardrobe. Yes, he can do
• 51:15
  the fraternity wardrobe like he can. Yeah, he's got I Phil at Daniels,
• 51:19
  he can dress it up. Yeah, yeah, he's got Yeah,
• 51:22
  he can do the young professional like he's got. He's got the looks and
• 51:25
  to me, I mean even in all this portal stuff. You know again,
• 51:29
  he just said, no, man, I'm here, Like, get
• 51:30
  away from me. I'm good to go. I got a a ton of
• 51:34
  respect for him. So I think anytime we talk about him in this light,
• 51:37
  it's so important that we talk about his parents, you know what I
• 51:42
  mean, like his mom catching them passes when he was his mom, who
• 51:46
  is tremendous, like she drives, she lives in Georgia now and she tries
• 51:52
  up here to all the games, and like from a toughness standpoint, that
• 51:57
  the toughness comes from his mom. And you know his dad, who just
• 52:01
  man, I'm excited. I'm so excited for his dad. His dad just
• 52:04
  got a promotion. He's the bullpen coach for the Milwaukee Brewers and him,
• 52:08
  how exciting is that. But like Garrett's patience and his humility and just his
• 52:20
  the way he competes, you know that that comes from from them. And
• 52:24
  and so I think anytime you talk about him, you have to talk about
• 52:28
  his parents because it takes us like we're in a like insta world, man,
• 52:32
  And if you don't have instant success, most people are hitting that at
• 52:36
  jet button. And so he didn't have the instant's success. It's taken time.
• 52:42
  And sometimes it does take time, you know, Like look at the
• 52:45
  NFL, like Jordan Love he was ready when he was ready, right,
• 52:50
  Like we can go back and we can look at several NFL quarterbacks that man,
• 52:54
  they took the patient approach and like Aaron Rodgers did before him, like
• 53:00
  and like that is that it just takes time sometimes, And I think and
• 53:06
  so for him, like he had the patience and I think again that goes
• 53:09
  back to his parents. And I've known him since I was since he was
• 53:13
  fifteen years old. You know, this isn't like a relationship that just started.
• 53:17
  Like I truly love the kid, like he's like he's great with young
• 53:22
  kids, like you know, Dax loves him like he uh. And he's
• 53:28
  a competitor, like he will flat out compete, like we had to work
• 53:31
  out this morning and we're doing shuttles and like if he doesn't if he doesn't
• 53:37
  win, he's pissed, you know what I mean. Right, And and
• 53:39
  so we're talking about on a Thursday in early March, and like he is,
• 53:45
  he's the same competing there and as he is in a two minute drill
• 53:47
  and he's a kid that's really hungry and he wants to be coached. He
• 53:52
  wants to be coached, and I can challenge him, i can pat him
• 53:57
  on the back, like and so I'm probably like like from a just a
• 54:02
  coaching perspective, like he's fun to coach. Now, there's some things he
• 54:07
  does that I'm kind of like yeah, and like and and he I've probably
• 54:13
  changed him as much as he's changed me, because like I just let him
• 54:17
  play and the things we're doing on offense, like I'm real careful not to
• 54:23
  over coach him. Like this is like we're talking about a run game step
• 54:29
  earlier and he's like, well, I can do it better this way.
• 54:31
  I'm like, we'll show it to me. And yeah, his way is
• 54:35
  probably better, you know, And like maybe the fake's not quite as good,
• 54:39
  but it happens faster and I'm looking for speed first and foremost. Five
• 54:44
  years ago, would you have backed off, I would have been like,
• 54:46
  no, this is how we're gonna do, you know, and like so
• 54:50
  and and I see that, and so he uh. I think it's a
• 54:54
  great story and it's a very West Virginian story. And I think the best
• 55:00
  part of his story hasn't been written. I really, I really believe that.
• 55:02
  Yeah, I think he becomes one of your case studies that you'll be
• 55:06
  able to use going forward as far as what patience leads to. So he'll
• 55:10
  be able to say, let me tell you about a kid that could have
• 55:13
  bolted for every reason. Hey, I'm out of here. If I'm not
• 55:15
  getting my I'm not getting not getting my snaps, man like in basketball,
• 55:19
  not let me play my game, not getting not getting my shots, I
• 55:22
  get my shots. Storytelling, Yeah, storytelling. I've never seen a bad
• 55:24
  red shirt in my life forty plus years. I've never seen a kid get
• 55:28
  red shirted who might have not been crazy about being red shired. The end
• 55:30
  of the day, they always flourish in that extra year that they're here.
• 55:35
  Helps. It helps, And I'm just saying kids that are patient, they
• 55:39
  get productivity at the end of it. Although it's sometimes difficulty. Looks you
• 55:44
  also got a bust. I mean, the part that's hidden in there is
• 55:45
  how hard he's worked to get that done too. He didn't just hang around
• 55:50
  here. He busted his podcast bus his butt to get to where he is
• 55:54
  too. Yeah, nothing too. He comes back like we win the game
• 56:00
  and I don't know, maybe a day or two later, Cameron, if
• 56:04
  he texted, he calls me, He's like, I didn't play very well.
• 56:07
  I'm like accurate, like accurate, and he's and what I said is
• 56:16
  and again like I want him to take his self development. I want him
• 56:22
  to take control of that. And so as we started this process working with
• 56:27
  quarterback Country, and I was like, put together a highlight low light of
• 56:31
  your just your throats and share it. And he had it done really quick
• 56:37
  and got a really good plan for how he's going to be better. And
• 56:42
  I'm I'm excited to see what it's going to be. M M. I
• 56:46
  really, I'm excited to see what it's going to be. And the other
• 56:52
  thing is you talk about somebody embracing the role. I'm sure there's been people
• 56:57
  that have embraced the role of starting quarterback in West Virginia. He's do no,
• 57:00
  no, You're on it. That's why I say he's perfect. He
• 57:05
  gets it, he understands it, but he's humble in that. At the
• 57:09
  same time, he's aware of what it means and what it is, and
• 57:13
  he's doing the thing. He's having joy playing. Yes, he's embraced the
• 57:16
  role, not run from it. Yes, he's enjoyed. And here's the
• 57:20
  other thing. He's a great teammate in Nico. He and Nico have worked
• 57:22
  really well together. Nico is going to make huge strides and he's already made
• 57:28
  huge, huge strides from how he prepares, how he works from a year
• 57:34
  round perspective, like they've been really good for each other. In Nico's story
• 57:39
  of being patient, you know, when we talk about some point in twenty
• 57:44
  four, he's gonna play and he's gonna go win us a game, and
• 57:46
  then when it's his show, he's going to be ready. And this patience
• 57:51
  is going to be a huge, great story. It's going to be a
• 57:52
  huge piece of his story as well. Yeah, you mentioned that Beingie Bishop
• 57:58
  made a huge difference in your cornerback room, just to teach those guys how
• 58:01
  to be, how to work, how to what's going on in your receiver
• 58:05
  room. I get the same sense something like that's going on there, too.
• 58:07
  Were taking We're taking a step for sure. Blob Marshall was tremendous higher
• 58:12
  for us. You know, for most of the year, guys, we
• 58:15
  play three freshmen, you know, and then believable Preston playing for us,
• 58:20
  first, you know, then you have Hudson, Rodney Gallagher, Traylon Ray.
• 58:22
  Those guys are playing their first snaps of college football and the production we
• 58:29
  have and they're only going to get better, you know. And so I
• 58:34
  tell you kind of an under something to like Grayson, there's two guys in
• 58:38
  our receiver room that have him then maybe as productive on the field as they
• 58:43
  would like, but really man push that room to be better. Grayson Mathyshevitch
• 58:46
  from Spring Valley and then c J. Cole from right in Washington, PA.
• 58:51
  Those guys and another one's Tyler Evans closely behind them, they have really
• 58:55
  pushed you know. I always talk about leaders. Who are your leaders,
• 58:59
  Well, it's your hardest workers, your best people are your best players.
• 59:02
  And Grayson and CJ hardest workers, as good a people as we have,
• 59:07
  and they are making that room better. And through the direction and leadership at
• 59:12
  BLILE, is that that room is we're working at a pace that they've never
• 59:17
  worked before in that room. We've had and we've had talent in that room
• 59:22
  before, it just hasn't been as productive as maybe we can be moving forward.
• 59:27
  Yeah, CJ and Grayson are both part of the fifth quarter. I
• 59:30
  had the chance to be in there when they did their interview thing before they
• 59:35
  went on their trip, and you're exactly right. Those guys are dudes impressive.
• 59:39
  We had fourteen kids in there that day. And fourteen kids and I'm
• 59:43
  a really super hard critic, fourteen kids made me go like, Wow,
• 59:47
  this thing is really really good. This is working, and all those kids
• 59:52
  are going to be incredibly successful. You talked about blow you out. Yeah,
• 59:54
  fifth Quarter program is that elite group that chambers changing. It's changing people's
• 1:00:01
  it's changing the trajectory for a lot of these guys. You look at ja
• 1:00:06
  Qua Hubbard, you know you've been around our program. By the way,
• 1:00:09
  he by the way, he really wants to be on this show. He
• 1:00:14
  has sent he has sent feelers. I don't know if he is an agent
• 1:00:16
  or whatever, but we have received Where can he come on? Three guys
• 1:00:24
  love. He's a business guy. But you look at Jaqua Hubbard transfers in
• 1:00:30
  here. Look at the experiences Jaque has had, has set and with the
• 1:00:37
  highest ranking people on UGGS. He is. He has been to Germany,
• 1:00:42
  He's going to Paris, He's been you know, I could just keep going
• 1:00:46
  on and on. Is the experiences that he's had, and then watch the
• 1:00:51
  transformation he's made from how he carries himself, how he speaks in public.
• 1:00:55
  Uh, those types of things. It's it's make real difference. We'd appreciate
• 1:01:00
  you being a part of it too. I always thought he was impressive last
• 1:01:04
  year as one of the guys that would talk to the group as you'd huddle
• 1:01:07
  up before you separated, which is which is not something you see every day
• 1:01:09
  from a guy that's not a starter or your best position player. I think
• 1:01:13
  that speaks to the leadership right there, doesn't it. Yeah, and again
• 1:01:16
  goes back to storytelling it. His story is so unique. He starts every
• 1:01:21
  game the year before twenty two and then comes back in twenty three. Is
• 1:01:25
  a part time starter. But when it was when it was his time,
• 1:01:30
  he was ready. And so many people like they something doesn't go the way
• 1:01:34
  they want them to go, they either eject or they blame, complain,
• 1:01:37
  defend, excuse and they're not ready when it's their time. Well, he
• 1:01:42
  was ready. And what that did is the respect that they have that they
• 1:01:45
  me and our team has for Jaquet and how he handled that situation and the
• 1:01:49
  way he's come out of it. It's so immense. Is like he has
• 1:01:52
  a powerful voice when he speaks. They listen. M getting towards the end.
• 1:01:57
  Here, last thing, give me some special teams kick and stuff.
• 1:02:00
  Oliver Straw has become a staple. Yeah, h surgery didn't he was supposed
• 1:02:05
  to do. Said he'll be fine, he'll go through spring. And so
• 1:02:07
  I think, well, we've got to continue. We got to maintain what
• 1:02:09
  we're doing on punt and our goals. We want to leave the country in
• 1:02:13
  fair catches. I think we had to make four tackles last year and a
• 1:02:15
  lot and a lot of that. There's a good stat Austin Brinkman is elite.
• 1:02:21
  Nobody in our program does it their job better than what he does.
• 1:02:23
  And then Ali the ability to The best thing I can tell our our listeners
• 1:02:30
  is he's like a pitcher that's able to change speeds and he can locate,
• 1:02:32
  and so from a punting perspective, he his ability to kick it from sideline
• 1:02:37
  to sideline and he can kick different types of balls. And we've been able
• 1:02:42
  to get turnovers and takeaways because of that. And so we got to maintain
• 1:02:45
  what we're doing on punt team. Our punt return team really affected the other
• 1:02:49
  team's punter this year, and so we got to continue to build on that,
• 1:02:52
  and then we got to get much better on kickoff and a lot of
• 1:02:54
  that starts Mike Taylor. I always say I always do this, Mike,
• 1:02:58
  I had him. I had a kicker named Mike Taylor. True, we
• 1:03:00
  always say this Tony last. But Michael Hayes for us was extremely efficient in
• 1:03:05
  the field goal game and in the Pats we got to get He's got to
• 1:03:09
  get better. It's kickoffs distance in location. We're having to cover too many
• 1:03:13
  kicks on kickoffs, and we didn't do a good job on on. So
• 1:03:15
  we're gonna change our scheme. We're gonna change what we're asking our guys do.
• 1:03:20
  We've got to we've got to be much improved on that. And so
• 1:03:24
  yeah, special teams, we've got to We've got some work to do.
• 1:03:28
  That's one of the things from a special team's efficiency, we weren't where we
• 1:03:30
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  can do the driving. I'm good open roads. You go to park not
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  so good. Right in there, hit the side. It's a it's a
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  struggle wave out there. I mean, there's science to it. He's science.
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  It's like the wind. You got to play the wave, you got
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  to coast it in. It's like this in my own personal dock, and
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  nobody's round pretty good, kind of like like the golf shot we were talking
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  about. All of a sudden, you got it. You got to park
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  to go to a restaurant that's so good. But don't take that down the
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  side. You don't in front of people looking at away from that. I
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  know my weaknesses. Hey, go down there and get those get those peanut
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  butter things. I want to give one to Neil someone over here. I
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  want to see what these things because this a J and Pa is raving about
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  how he's good. He's basically saying this is better. Packageing is better for
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  sure. Oh yeah, see these look like gourmet chocolate. All right,
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  try one of these, Neil here, now a J. And where that
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  Brad? Where are they we're doing we're doing a podcast here that talking.
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  I want to say, probably the worst things you can eat and then go
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  back on the radio radio or doing a podcast is chocolate and peanut butter.
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  How do we do it a lot, though we're veterans at doing that on
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  the show. Dude, that's exceptional. That's what you got. That's very
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  good. I'll second that. I'll just tell you why. It's a velvety
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  smooth chocolate. Well, it's just a nice little amount of peanut butter in
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  there. It gives you a nice smooth finish, not a thick peanut butter.
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  No, you're right, it's not overwhelming you with peanut butter. More
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  chocolate than peanut butter. That's really good. They call it a melt away.
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  That's that's very good. I will who are cynies in cohoos as A
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  J and p A. Also, I showed you that minem bag earlier.
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  They bring those of the Hey tell if you say, hey, those guys
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  didn't realize it was your birthdays in February. There you go. Also,
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  this gentleman here, John Lucas gave us, gave me that one pound bag
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  of eminem's there. So John delivered those court sided last night and he has
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  been doing that for years. To Bill Nevan, who's the PA announcer basketball
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  and football. He's a retired mine inspector and a huge Mountaineer fan. He
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  dropped off. Yeah, great man, John Lucas, thank you very much,
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  sir for those emine very nice. Yeah, people you get stuff sent
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  to your office a lot. We do. We do, some are some
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  are some are interesting. Yeah, that's a good word. Interesting. Do
• 1:06:55
  you get like Okay, I'm just want to like because people do stuff canning
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  wise, like do you get a name like Mustards or Honeys or Jerkys or
• 1:07:01
  that kind of Steah Lry goes through them all pretty good, like I tell
• 1:07:05
  her, depending on how the game previous game with be very careful, right,
• 1:07:09
  be very that is that white powder? That is that? Yeah,
• 1:07:14
  like being be very very careful, very very careful. And one thing I
• 1:07:17
  wanted to hit before we got out, oh fantasy camp. Yeah, so
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  we talk about that. So we're talking about the Trust. And one thing
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  that we're doing new this year through the Country Roads Trust is the Fantasy Camp.
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  Okay, And it's a it's a new opportunity to generate revenue for the
• 1:07:35
  Trust, but it's also an experience. Okay. So what we're trying to
• 1:07:40
  do with the Fantasy Camp is we're bringing back some former mountaineer greats and so
• 1:07:45
  an opportunity for these guys to get around our current team, but also they're
• 1:07:49
  going to be around for the fantasy camp for both days. So you're talking
• 1:07:53
  these aren't this year. I mean Avon Coleburn I've heard of him, Yeah,
• 1:07:57
  he's is he the yes, yes, Bruce Irvin heard of him.
• 1:08:01
  Yeah, not bad, yeah, not bad, all right. From Carl
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  Joseph, he'll hit you. And then the Mage Major Harris come out.
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  Yeah, and we're gonna have some more. And then our current players talked
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  about Garrett Green Nico. Uh, they're going to be part of it,
• 1:08:14
  and it's gonna be a two day and we're doing it around spring practice on
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  purpose, and so we're gonna give in. And the theme this year is
• 1:08:21
  game Day Experience. So they're gonna come in on a Friday. We're gonna
• 1:08:27
  put them up the exact same hotel that our team stays at. This is
• 1:08:29
  good, This is good. Yeah, So meetings just like just like,
• 1:08:33
  they're gonna play gear, get some oh yeah yeah good exclusive, exclusive special
• 1:08:42
  stuff, exclusive gear, and and then on Saturday, they're gonna go just
• 1:08:46
  like our game routine. Then they'll they'll get access to practice on a day
• 1:08:51
  that it's not open to the media. So they're gonna get access to uh
• 1:08:55
  to the spring practice there, and then they're gonna get out on the field
• 1:08:58
  and from an entire game experience from a from the uniform to running out of
• 1:09:03
  the tunnel to go on and playing with with the former Mountaineer greats. So
• 1:09:10
  when you go Country Roads Trust dot com to sign up, Yeah, go
• 1:09:13
  right to the Country Roads Trust. And and this is something this is the
• 1:09:15
  first year we're doing it, and it's something that that a lot of the
• 1:09:20
  professional organizations, do you know, Basketball's had it has had success with it.
• 1:09:26
  And so Steven and and the Trust as they're taking a lead on this,
• 1:09:30
  and and our guys are fired up because they get the coach. Now
• 1:09:31
  they get you know, our guys get the geah in reverse. So you
• 1:09:34
  could add like maybe another former player and no, Brad, what do you
• 1:09:36
  think for like a ball security station? Maybe under Johnson under kind of and
• 1:09:44
  yeah, so we're do you have to do that under I mean one of
• 1:09:47
  the all time greatsick shot I gumbled once in his whole career and a good
• 1:09:51
  dude. He's a great dude, Like he's a great and he looks like
• 1:09:56
  he's still played. Yes, he looks like he's still play and and so
• 1:10:00
  so it's uh, but yeah, you know, and we want to bring
• 1:10:03
  we want to bring people in and I think this is something that that regardless
• 1:10:10
  of age, yeah, is we're going to find something for you to do,
• 1:10:13
  to participate, and it's about it's about creating an experience. So I'm
• 1:10:16
  looking forward to it. So obviously the money goes to the trust. And
• 1:10:23
  is there a limited number of spots or is it open to as many people
• 1:10:27
  as you can? Now, we're gonna limit it because we want it just
• 1:10:29
  like we wanted to make the experience. So it's not a mass numbers deal.
• 1:10:32
  We want a limited number and so they can get a lot of one
• 1:10:35
  on one attention and and it's about the experience and it's gonna something we'll continue
• 1:10:41
  to grow each and every year. Good but first weekend in April. Excited
• 1:10:45
  about kicking that off. Okay, first weekend in April. There you go,
• 1:10:47
  folks, all right, music sign That means they've we got to leave
• 1:10:50
  because they've runted out the studio to a flea market. By the way,
• 1:10:55
  your boy wasn't here today, Hoppy Polytics, we're there session. Oh yeah,
• 1:11:00
  they're wrapping the thing up. Now they're getting It's like like for you
• 1:11:03
  would be like Bowl season probably, What do you think it'd be like for
• 1:11:08
  Bulls? Where he is I'm never I'm never quite sure where he is.
• 1:11:11
  I'll tell you what, Neil, he's not here more than he's here,
• 1:11:14
  and then uh, when he's here, he causes a lot of problems.
• 1:11:16
  So I'm glad you didn't have to deal with him. He was He is
• 1:11:21
  a good control. He attack that one time. Remember we brought a kid
• 1:11:27
  in and he immediately launched in on him and we were kind of like taking
• 1:11:30
  a back You remember that, Yeah, yeah, I remember, Like whoa
• 1:11:35
  it was? Was it Nico? It was Nico Garrett? Oh yeah it
• 1:11:41
  was Garrett Garrett. Are you the starting court? Like first question, are
• 1:11:45
  you the starting quarterback? Garrett just batt at him around that he wouldn't even
• 1:11:48
  he was unfazed. Yeah. Then when Garrett came back in and it was
• 1:11:51
  looking for him, like to taunt him even more. It doesn't lack confidence.
• 1:11:56
  As you said, all right, we're out special thanks to UH head
• 1:12:00
  coach Neil Brown for join us. You know, you have a open invitation
• 1:12:02
  to come here whenever you'd like, appreciate it anytime. We'll be over at
• 1:12:06
  the We'll be over at the springball practices. Keep the weather the way it
• 1:12:11
  is. I really don't like cold. Springball Just just let be inside of
• 1:12:15
  its two coaches. Yeah, I just don't like that cold, all right.
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