Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 94 Clash in Paris 2025 review
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chilling them all ages.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 0:09Speaker 1: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and we are back from France. Uh maybe the annoying
- 0:18Speaker 1: interrupting chance are over with for now now that we're
- 0:21Speaker 1: back in the states. I believe we're back in the States.
- 0:27Speaker 1: I mean, it's you can't you can't just have plan
- 0:30Speaker 1: old entrances without people chanting, uh and singing and matches
- 0:36Speaker 1: taking far, far too long because of it. But uh,
- 0:39Speaker 1: you know, let's let's get into these matches. Uh, let's
- 0:42Speaker 1: just rip into this whole fucking pay per view, shall we?
- 0:45Speaker 1: Here we go?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Might? Okay, like it's on me now.
- 1:11Speaker 3: I want to get him all.
- 1:13Speaker 2: I wanna get him all.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Oh ye, don't you.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Welcome back?
- 1:25Speaker 4: Oose Andre. Pc W crew man andre Uso is on
- 1:32Speaker 4: your podcast.
- 1:34Speaker 1: How long did it take?
- 1:37Speaker 4: That was a terrible fucking friends.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Dracula, Yeah, I.
- 1:45Speaker 4: Got too much rolling over the rs the first.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I appreciate the trying them. Maybe maybe we got one
- 1:51Speaker 1: French guy you know that that listens to our podcast.
- 1:54Speaker 1: He goes in not so bad like this guy hit tries.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Now we're not good with our French accents. Clearly speaking
- 2:04Speaker 1: of French. Ah, I haven't had it on my stream
- 2:11Speaker 1: deck labeled French.
- 2:13Speaker 5: Here we go, Champanade, cave, zombie, the part, the King,
- 2:33Speaker 5: the King, it's if he's at about it.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Is?
- 2:52Speaker 6: I mean, I mean you had to discover chan is
- 2:57Speaker 6: a Doyle.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Oh, I'm dying on the other end. Thank When you
- 3:13Speaker 1: send that to me and I was listening, I was like,
- 3:15Speaker 1: what the hell is this? I was like, I don't
- 3:16Speaker 1: even know what the hell this is. I click on it.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know this wrestler? Is this
- 3:19Speaker 1: a wrestler? Even I started hearing the lyrics and then
- 3:22Speaker 1: I started dying. I was like, yes, this is perfect.
- 3:25Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure it's the end credits to a Wes
- 3:27Speaker 7: Anderson movie.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Like, damn, can I use this in like a bumper
- 3:34Speaker 1: or something? This is this is nice great classic?
- 3:43Speaker 3: Oh?
- 3:43Speaker 1: Man, So how are you guys doing? How is your
- 3:45Speaker 1: labor day? Uh? How is your labor day?
- 3:48Speaker 3: Man?
- 3:51Speaker 4: Useful?
- 3:53Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been working like a motherfucker for the last
- 3:55Speaker 8: two weeks and I'm just gonna continue in the next week.
- 3:58Speaker 8: So I'm using every leak. Last one of my days
- 4:01Speaker 8: off to just rest right now?
- 4:03Speaker 1: Nice h Doyle Man, how is your How was your
- 4:06Speaker 1: Labor Day vacation?
- 4:08Speaker 7: Oh?
- 4:09Speaker 3: It was also RESTful, I guess.
- 4:12Speaker 7: Sunday before the show, I went on and did a
- 4:14Speaker 7: little day drinking, which is kind of rare for me.
- 4:18Speaker 7: So I had to rewatch the show because I didn't
- 4:22Speaker 7: really remember it very much. And the good thing I
- 4:24Speaker 7: did because I think I actually thought that Nicki Bella
- 4:29Speaker 7: Jesus Becky match wasn't that bad boy?
- 4:32Speaker 3: Was irob.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Oh Man? I can't wait to get into that one.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Uh yeah. I had time to go down to Ocean
- 4:40Speaker 1: City for a bit and went to the beach, went
- 4:42Speaker 1: to Aestic island, saw some wowse.
- 4:45Speaker 7: Ocean City, Ocean City, New Jersey or Ocean City Maryland, Maryland.
- 4:52Speaker 3: By far, by far the superior Ocean City.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yes, by far. Clean, cleaner boardwalks, you know, homeless people
- 5:01Speaker 1: can't you know, have sex underneath the boardwalk because it
- 5:04Speaker 1: sits so low. You know, it's nice, not a lot,
- 5:08Speaker 1: you know.
- 5:10Speaker 8: Yeah, So where there's a will, there's a way, time
- 5:16Speaker 8: to think about how to figure how to do it.
- 5:17Speaker 1: So yeah, right, the season is just about summer's just
- 5:20Speaker 1: spot over. Like I went swimming for a little bit,
- 5:22Speaker 1: I finished my book, I got one last sunburn. Uh
- 5:26Speaker 1: you know, I went to the Haunted House on the boardwalk.
- 5:29Speaker 1: I saw tons of wrestling memorabilia on the boardwalk. Of course,
- 5:34Speaker 1: shirts of course, like wrestling shirts galore, way overpriced, way
- 5:39Speaker 1: way overpriced. Uh you know, made it, made it back
- 5:43Speaker 1: here in time to show the p l E at
- 5:46Speaker 1: my house, and like six or seven people show up.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Well I didn't realize how early it was going to be.
- 5:52Speaker 1: It was like one o'clock, but I had everybody to
- 5:56Speaker 1: come over like seven, you know, and uh, I guess
- 6:00Speaker 1: with like ads and whatnot. It just I was like
- 6:02Speaker 1: holy shit. Like we go on to like almost like eleven.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Uh yeah, maybe I won't be doing that again. I
- 6:08Speaker 1: was starting a little bit earlier next time. So so
- 6:11Speaker 1: and a lot of people who came to the party
- 6:13Speaker 1: are listeners of the show. Uh you know now that
- 6:17Speaker 1: I caved with somebody else and got ESPN plus, So
- 6:23Speaker 1: I'll be continuing having pls at my house. The tradition
- 6:27Speaker 1: will go on, so guaranteed. Uh, whatever date there is
- 6:33Speaker 1: a wrestling pl my door will be open.
- 6:36Speaker 4: Uh.
- 6:37Speaker 1: And then I had labor Day with the family next day.
- 6:40Speaker 1: It was pretty good, you know. And then and then
- 6:43Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sitting there in the afternoon having
- 6:45Speaker 1: a picnic with the family. I get a message here.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Didn't know this either, Monday Night Raw. It's going on
- 6:52Speaker 1: in the middle of the afternoon. I'm like, fucking nice, Hey,
- 6:56Speaker 1: I ain't go home. Start Monday Night Raw right away.
- 7:00Speaker 1: So I was done by like eight o'clock. I wrapped
- 7:02Speaker 1: it up. I was ready to go to bed, get
- 7:04Speaker 1: ready to go to work, go back to work. I
- 7:06Speaker 1: was like, this was a pretty nice weekend, pretty nice
- 7:09Speaker 1: little labor day vacation.
- 7:11Speaker 8: So but ulved and you caved and got unlimited.
- 7:18Speaker 1: No I no, I caved by how do I how
- 7:22Speaker 1: do I say this piggybacking off of somebody else, reaching
- 7:25Speaker 1: out find out who had it? What's it gonna take
- 7:28Speaker 1: to get my ass in that contract with you? You
- 7:30Speaker 1: know I'm not paying full.
- 7:31Speaker 4: Price, You're doing less down with the revolution on.
- 7:39Speaker 1: It gonna be a fucking pirate, huh. You know who's
- 7:44Speaker 1: our captain to find out holding Stephan McMahon's our captain, y'all.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Can have that.
- 7:55Speaker 8: I'm holding out that YouTube TV is going to strike
- 7:58Speaker 8: a deal with ESPN.
- 8:00Speaker 4: I guess Hulu.
- 8:02Speaker 8: Hulu's got a deal struck with them, Which bigot.
- 8:08Speaker 4: Who owns Hulu? Disney who owns the ESPN Disney Wow negostiation.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised. I wasn't even a thing right.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Yeah, like we said, I mean packages, deals, they're all
- 8:22Speaker 1: going to change within the next few months. People are
- 8:24Speaker 1: adjusting me new deals there. There was just a recent
- 8:28Speaker 1: one I guess for Disney Hulu HBO and now that's
- 8:32Speaker 1: now switched to the Hulu Disney ESPN. So all types packages.
- 8:38Speaker 1: I was going around work assing people, like, you know,
- 8:40Speaker 1: out of curiosity, like do you have ESPN? If you do,
- 8:42Speaker 1: like what got the package do you have? You know,
- 8:46Speaker 1: just weird. They're so just grandfathered in old package deals.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So my guess is like me, Yeah, either either make
- 8:55Speaker 1: the decision, you know, if you got a good deal now,
- 8:58Speaker 1: and camp out wait for a better one to come along.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Sometimes they do, sometimes they do. Sometimes you're like draining
- 9:03Speaker 1: and just hang on what you got, you know.
- 9:08Speaker 7: God, Yeah, yeah, I'm holding I'm holding that hope that
- 9:13Speaker 7: exccinity will figure out something deal. Uh So I'm not
- 9:17Speaker 7: going to purchase anything in the meantime, because I.
- 9:19Speaker 3: Know it's I do. Like an hour later, I'm going
- 9:22Speaker 3: to email like, well, we reached the deal and you.
- 9:28Speaker 7: But at the same time I'm probably gonna be uh.
- 9:32Speaker 7: I guess I gotta wait to see if they're available
- 9:35Speaker 7: via traditional pay per view still, because they are, I
- 9:39Speaker 7: have especially a twenty first century black box, so I'll
- 9:45Speaker 7: just watch it there. But if not, I'm going to
- 9:48Speaker 7: be hanging the Jolly Roger out. I think I can
- 9:50Speaker 7: cover in one of my eyes and talking.
- 9:54Speaker 3: We're talking like it.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Is, oh knows.
- 9:57Speaker 8: So maybe at the very least this time around, I'm
- 10:00Speaker 8: test the VPN capabilities of my web browser.
- 10:04Speaker 4: And see if I can access it through Netflix.
- 10:10Speaker 3: I've watched SmackDown one day.
- 10:15Speaker 7: When they've you know, taped it in Europe at two
- 10:19Speaker 7: in the afternoon and not shown it here. It's still
- 10:21Speaker 7: airs live in the rest of the world, like like
- 10:23Speaker 7: it does here when raw ye, so I've successfully watched it.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Now.
- 10:27Speaker 7: I don't know if it like only leaves you half
- 10:30Speaker 7: an hour for free and I'm watching to pay for
- 10:32Speaker 7: more time.
- 10:32Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 10:33Speaker 7: I've only watched it to see if I could do
- 10:35Speaker 7: it and then really sit down and watch it for
- 10:38Speaker 7: any length of time.
- 10:39Speaker 8: Yeah, I may do a trial run, just like pull
- 10:43Speaker 8: up the browser, turn on the VPN, sign into Netflix
- 10:46Speaker 8: and see what type of menu it gives me. If
- 10:49Speaker 8: it gives me like the full WWE menu, then I'll
- 10:53Speaker 8: guess I should be good, probably for the Wrestle paloser,
- 10:57Speaker 8: but we'll see.
- 10:59Speaker 7: Yep, you can find it if you can find its
- 11:02Speaker 7: people on VPN, and I think what is that five bucks.
- 11:04Speaker 3: A month or something like that.
- 11:05Speaker 4: That still.
- 11:07Speaker 8: Yeah, there's still a ton of them out there, like
- 11:09Speaker 8: Nord VPN and stuff like that, I mean, which are good,
- 11:13Speaker 8: but I think, as I said before, you're with those,
- 11:16Speaker 8: you're kind of limited to your PC or your phone.
- 11:19Speaker 3: Or something like that.
- 11:21Speaker 8: If you if you're somebody who wants to watch you know,
- 11:25Speaker 8: on your big TV like most people would do, then
- 11:28Speaker 8: you got to figure out something else like a firestick
- 11:30Speaker 8: or that has or some way to you know, backload
- 11:34Speaker 8: or you know, third party some sort of yeah, some
- 11:38Speaker 8: sort of app or something of VPN, which I don't know.
- 11:43Speaker 8: I think you can do that with Android TV, but
- 11:46Speaker 8: it may depend on what type of TV that you
- 11:49Speaker 8: have and what type of you know, overlay or os
- 11:54Speaker 8: they have up there. I've heard some people say that
- 11:56Speaker 8: they can do them with the uh the Walmart on
- 12:00Speaker 8: brand Android TVs. Apparently those you can uh load third
- 12:07Speaker 8: party apps on. I've got a Sony Bravia, which is
- 12:10Speaker 8: a bit more high end, so I don't know. Those
- 12:13Speaker 8: may be a little bit more you know, secured against
- 12:17Speaker 8: stuff like that. And even with that, just loading third
- 12:21Speaker 8: party apps like that, I'm somewhat skeptical about.
- 12:27Speaker 7: I think just getting a witch or a magician or
- 12:30Speaker 7: something like that to help out.
- 12:32Speaker 4: Yeah, we know.
- 12:35Speaker 1: If you don't subscribe to ESPN Plus within the next month,
- 12:39Speaker 1: we'll just call you a.
- 12:40Speaker 6: You are a smelly pirate hooker.
- 12:43Speaker 3: M M.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I found a bunch of pirate.
- 12:49Speaker 4: I'll change my interest. I'll change my intro music from
- 12:52Speaker 4: Jay Uso to Kyrie says music.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Was that of the caravan?
- 13:07Speaker 3: Who was he? Who was what was it? Paul? Yes,
- 13:12Speaker 3: he's a swinging and.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah right, some of Vince must have
- 13:19Speaker 1: just got done fucking dodgy. It's great, it's it's funny.
- 13:26Speaker 7: And then wasn't that one of the incest storylines? It's
- 13:31Speaker 7: amazing that there were more than one.
- 13:34Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure he was working.
- 13:35Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure he had a sister, a famed sister
- 13:38Speaker 9: he was involved with, but that was like that was forever,
- 13:45Speaker 9: No I remember him.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Paul Bill interesting fellow.
- 13:51Speaker 3: I'm almost certainly he had a he had.
- 13:53Speaker 7: A relationship with his sister and all going.
- 13:57Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 13:58Speaker 7: I believe that too, And I think I think when
- 14:01Speaker 7: they went pg is just kind of fizzled out and died.
- 14:04Speaker 3: This may never mentioned it.
- 14:08Speaker 1: All right, beginning of this episode. I do not have
- 14:11Speaker 1: a thumbnail picked out, but I will try to find
- 14:14Speaker 1: one before the episode is done. Try to find a
- 14:17Speaker 1: good one, a good one. Figure out what I'm gonna do.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Somebody's got to have a goofy looking face somewhere. It's
- 14:25Speaker 1: always John Cena or Paul Haymon or seth Rawlins. I'll
- 14:30Speaker 1: find somebody, Yeah, guys. Clash in Paris Tenants record was
- 14:39Speaker 1: thirty and forty three, and the Paris a lot of
- 14:43Speaker 1: defansee arena. I'm pretty sure that's probably not how I
- 14:49Speaker 1: say it, but the law defense arena. Uh. I'll tell
- 14:55Speaker 1: you what, man. As soon as this show started, the
- 14:59Speaker 1: crowd immediately hijacked it, immediately, just singing and but we're
- 15:05Speaker 1: accustomed to this when whenever it's outside of the country.
- 15:10Speaker 1: I still think to this day, the biggest pop I've
- 15:14Speaker 1: heard outside of the country was when they were in
- 15:16Speaker 1: Puerto Rico with Bad Bunny. Maybe one of the biggest
- 15:21Speaker 1: out of the country, you know what I mean, like,
- 15:23Speaker 1: oh yeah, involved, the crowd involved, you know, I mean,
- 15:27Speaker 1: just it was. It was so intense and.
- 15:30Speaker 4: Yeah, and his music worked like it's his own song.
- 15:34Speaker 8: But it's like a perfect w W interest theme. So
- 15:38Speaker 8: soon as it hit, everybody immediately responded to it. And
- 15:41Speaker 8: then the whole fucking arena singing that song. Right, oh yeah, right,
- 15:47Speaker 8: that ship was let as fuck.
- 15:49Speaker 7: But uh, speaking of the crowd, I don't want to
- 15:52Speaker 7: harm on this too much, but they later on the
- 15:54Speaker 7: show will announce that it's the biggest gate ever arena,
- 15:59Speaker 7: right and beating Taylor.
- 16:02Speaker 3: Swift, and oh we beat Tailor Swifts. And this is
- 16:05Speaker 3: the kind of that I stunk in my crawl a
- 16:06Speaker 3: little bit, and I went and dug around a little bit.
- 16:08Speaker 7: Now, any any financials for the showff as far as
- 16:13Speaker 7: I can FINDE. But that Taylor Swift tour was the
- 16:18Speaker 7: highest grossing tour of all time. And if you remember,
- 16:24Speaker 7: while it was going on that the people the complaints
- 16:26Speaker 7: about the ticket prices were inescapable. Now she had forty
- 16:32Speaker 7: five thousand people in that building and w W said
- 16:36Speaker 7: they had thirty.
- 16:38Speaker 3: So I don't know if that speaks to how crazy expensive.
- 16:42Speaker 7: Ww E tickets are at this point that they were
- 16:44Speaker 7: able to make up fifteen thousand.
- 16:47Speaker 3: People for the highest grossing.
- 16:50Speaker 7: Concert event of all time, right, Like, this just blows
- 16:54Speaker 7: me in my mind that I didn't give us a number,
- 16:56Speaker 7: so who knows what the truth is?
- 16:58Speaker 3: And I also didn't mention that Taylor's.
- 17:00Speaker 7: Did get forty five thousand in that building, but Johnper
- 17:02Speaker 7: did it four days in a row, which is not
- 17:06Speaker 7: something that our friends in Stfford, Cannickant were able to do.
- 17:10Speaker 3: Sorry, I just stuck in my crawl and all this.
- 17:13Speaker 7: You know how fucking expensive this kid is, if it's true, God,
- 17:19Speaker 7: to make up for fifteen thousand more people just seems
- 17:24Speaker 7: crazy to me.
- 17:27Speaker 8: Confirmed Doyle's was swifty Hey, yeah, immediately out.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, MGF can't even like fucking Mark you
- 17:42Speaker 1: fucking swift et.
- 17:44Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm more of a mind the Siris guy.
- 17:48Speaker 8: I really wanted another truths Oh okay, Team Hillary Duffel
- 17:54Speaker 8: in the USA.
- 17:55Speaker 1: That's all I coming in like a wrecking ball. I
- 17:58Speaker 1: got agree with Dre team Hillary damn Ye.
- 18:02Speaker 8: Only one that only one that didn't get into no
- 18:04Speaker 8: bullshit m m. The only one that came out of
- 18:09Speaker 8: Disney semi normal.
- 18:11Speaker 7: Or maybe she's the only one that figured out how
- 18:13Speaker 7: to cover it up. Yeah right right, Wow, anyway, enough
- 18:19Speaker 7: swift talk.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
- 18:27Speaker 3: We'll be talking more about Taylor Swift.
- 18:30Speaker 1: No, no, definitely not.
- 18:31Speaker 4: Oh yeah, football seasons coming were about to get overloaded
- 18:34Speaker 4: with the swift to talk.
- 18:37Speaker 7: Yeah no, fuck yourself, all right, Yeah, let's get into
- 18:44Speaker 7: this paper view.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Where was I before I was Swift Heed?
- 18:49Speaker 3: Uh?
- 18:50Speaker 1: Yeah? Thirty three. We did have another match added to
- 18:55Speaker 1: the card. That was the Wyatt six Joe Gacy Dexter Limus.
- 19:00Speaker 1: It's the Tag team ww Tag from Champions versus the
- 19:04Speaker 1: Street Profits, Angela Dawkins and Montese Ford Trey. You want
- 19:10Speaker 1: to take it away at this pay per view?
- 19:13Speaker 3: Sure?
- 19:15Speaker 8: So match number one so the Tribal Thief versus the
- 19:21Speaker 8: Tribal Chief Bronson read versus Roman Reigns, the Shoe Lafalla
- 19:29Speaker 8: versus the Tulafalla. I gotta say this was a great
- 19:35Speaker 8: match to kick off the pl with I will give
- 19:38Speaker 8: him that, Like, Bronson looked like a million bucks in
- 19:42Speaker 8: there with Roman. Roman did everything he could to make
- 19:45Speaker 8: Bronson look like a legit powerhouse and like a legitimate
- 19:49Speaker 8: threat to him. I mean, Broman every time he would
- 19:52Speaker 8: get some offense on Bronson would shut it down. Country
- 19:57Speaker 8: had a counter for practically everything he do. Beat the
- 20:01Speaker 8: shit out of Roman range from pillar to post, and
- 20:05Speaker 8: they got a good amount of time to cook in
- 20:07Speaker 8: that match.
- 20:09Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how long the match went. We
- 20:11Speaker 4: looked that up real quick.
- 20:12Speaker 8: Twenty two minutes. Yeah, so, I mean that's third longest
- 20:19Speaker 8: on the car. So they got him, gave him plenty
- 20:23Speaker 8: of time to work with. Of course Roman won eventually,
- 20:28Speaker 8: but from bell to bell this was a great match
- 20:32Speaker 8: of which afterwards we got a lot of shenanigree.
- 20:39Speaker 3: Yeah I said that. The masses twenty minutes say after
- 20:42Speaker 3: match was that?
- 20:46Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all the shenanigans after the match from Roman,
- 20:51Speaker 8: from Paul checking on Bronson and Roman getting up to him,
- 20:56Speaker 8: to Paul Hayman kissing Roman's ass and saying.
- 21:00Speaker 4: Oh you're my travel chief, I love you, YadA YadA,
- 21:02Speaker 4: and trying to.
- 21:02Speaker 8: Present the shoes back to him, just for him to
- 21:06Speaker 8: get guillotined and choked out, which led to what then
- 21:10Speaker 8: bron and Bronson coming in beating the fuck out of Roman.
- 21:15Speaker 3: You forgot about you forgot about.
- 21:17Speaker 7: What I think is the most dangerous uh part of
- 21:20Speaker 7: this entire pay per view uh, and that includes the
- 21:23Speaker 7: Donnybrook match, is that Romans find still on the sneakers
- 21:26Speaker 7: and throws them in the crowd.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Like, how how did would there were not reports that people.
- 21:31Speaker 7: Getting uh have to having to be hospitalized because.
- 21:34Speaker 4: Of the fight for that one.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Yes, exactly that that was? It was what is he crazy?
- 21:43Speaker 3: You see? You tell the asshole? Did you see this
- 21:45Speaker 3: guy at the US Open steel a autograph from a
- 21:49Speaker 3: killed or something like that?
- 21:50Speaker 7: Like, I can't imagine what's going on here trying to
- 21:52Speaker 7: get to the fucking Roman reigns Jordan's friends.
- 21:57Speaker 4: Man, Well, you know what, I think?
- 21:59Speaker 1: So quick they saved them.
- 22:02Speaker 8: If anything saved them, it might be the fact that
- 22:05Speaker 8: it was only one. Now, maybe if he had thrown
- 22:07Speaker 8: the second one out there, you might have seen whoever
- 22:09Speaker 8: got that first set and the second shoe, they might
- 22:13Speaker 8: have fought to the death to complete the set.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Yeah, shoe. Yeah, but she wants broke bunch of orbital, right.
- 22:22Speaker 1: But the French layover so easy though, you know, like, hey,
- 22:25Speaker 1: give me that shoe, I'll give it.
- 22:27Speaker 4: To French French ront fighters that too.
- 22:38Speaker 3: That I have my own.
- 22:45Speaker 4: More and more, they probably got mad because they weren't
- 22:47Speaker 4: the right colorway, like I don't even want this ship.
- 22:52Speaker 1: More and more like these entrances, it depends on like
- 22:56Speaker 1: the TV that you're watching them on, if you're watching
- 22:57Speaker 1: them in four K, you know, when they use the
- 23:00Speaker 1: like it was that eight K for them to come
- 23:04Speaker 1: in it. I swear to god, man, it looks like
- 23:06Speaker 1: I'm watching a two K video game. That's what it
- 23:10Speaker 1: feels like sometimes with the lightning and stuff. And it's
- 23:13Speaker 1: not every arena, but there's some arenas with the entrances.
- 23:16Speaker 1: This looks so clean and crisp, you know, it's like, damn,
- 23:19Speaker 1: this almost like a almost looks like a video game
- 23:23Speaker 1: nobody else just made.
- 23:24Speaker 8: Okay, Well, speaking of entrance, I guess one thing we
- 23:29Speaker 8: do need to touch on is what I think you
- 23:33Speaker 8: brought it up du All in the discord when the
- 23:35Speaker 8: show started, is the fact that we actually have some
- 23:39Speaker 8: effort in the entrance way this year. Always in the
- 23:42Speaker 8: stage set up. Those are the monitors that they stacked
- 23:47Speaker 8: up in order to project an image of the Eiffel Tower.
- 23:53Speaker 4: Granted probably didn't cost so much.
- 23:54Speaker 8: They probably had those monitors sitting in the warehouse somewhere
- 23:57Speaker 8: not doing shit from when they broke down the old
- 23:59Speaker 8: big as we're all set.
- 24:01Speaker 4: But still they tried. I give them that.
- 24:05Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sure part of it is is T
- 24:08Speaker 7: K O. H. Nickel and diamond Ship. So, like, one
- 24:11Speaker 7: of the things I definitely miss about the Vince era
- 24:13Speaker 7: is some of those sets, you know, the sets, the
- 24:18Speaker 7: pay per view specific sets. Uh, you know TLC would
- 24:22Speaker 7: have ladder, it's all over the place, you know, like
- 24:25Speaker 7: and then it's just that kind of a little detail.
- 24:28Speaker 7: I'm sure it was expensive, you know, and I'm sure
- 24:30Speaker 7: one of the first things when they opened the Bucks
- 24:32Speaker 7: and says, well we can we can lose millions just
- 24:35Speaker 7: by doing a generic screen and every crow right, they
- 24:40Speaker 7: don't do that.
- 24:41Speaker 3: Yeah, when they don't do that, it's kind of refreshing.
- 24:44Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, definitely that Yeah, Because one was that will
- 24:47Speaker 8: forever stick in my mind was Bad one of Bad
- 24:51Speaker 8: Blood pols where they had the big giant drops of
- 24:55Speaker 8: blood hanging.
- 24:56Speaker 6: Ah.
- 24:57Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll forever remember that one. Yeah.
- 25:02Speaker 8: But yeah, nowadays it's just all right, stack some screens,
- 25:05Speaker 8: get the graphic team up there, all right, make an image,
- 25:09Speaker 8: put it up there.
- 25:10Speaker 4: Done.
- 25:10Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's yeah, it looks so nice, especially with
- 25:14Speaker 1: like John Cena's engines and stuff, just with the proper
- 25:17Speaker 1: lightning with some of these entrances. Yeah, I loved it.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Big Eiffel Tower. Nice.
- 25:24Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:25Speaker 8: So but back to the match, Yeah, bron and Bronson
- 25:32Speaker 8: put the beat down on Roman, spears tsunamis everybody trying
- 25:37Speaker 8: to referee, trying to call out there, stop them being
- 25:41Speaker 8: completely useless. And then Jay comes down to help his brother,
- 25:47Speaker 8: just for him to get that work too, and Roman
- 25:51Speaker 8: laid out on the stretcher, and then Bronson really comes
- 25:54Speaker 8: back and give one more Tsunami to grow on. So
- 25:57Speaker 8: presumably Roman is and taken out and off of television
- 26:04Speaker 8: again so he can return again.
- 26:08Speaker 3: At some point. It's really getting ridiculous with him. He
- 26:12Speaker 3: comes back, he does.
- 26:13Speaker 7: Maybe two promos, has a match gets beaten down, my
- 26:16Speaker 7: heels and it's gone for a month or two, does
- 26:19Speaker 7: this big return rinsed repeat. It's just like can we
- 26:23Speaker 7: either get him around for a couple of matches in
- 26:25Speaker 7: a row maybe or something like.
- 26:28Speaker 3: It's just so formula.
- 26:32Speaker 4: Definitely at this point it's if he's up there, he's returned.
- 26:39Speaker 4: It's not just Roman's just here. No, he's got to
- 26:42Speaker 4: return all the time.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it just matched. I think definitely.
- 26:51Speaker 7: Uh, it's great, a great opener and received all of
- 26:55Speaker 7: I think we kind of made a checklist of things
- 26:59Speaker 7: that this match maybe do achieved, and it was some
- 27:01Speaker 7: of them were contradictory a little bit, like we thought that, uh,
- 27:04Speaker 7: you know, they might write Roman off, but we all
- 27:06Speaker 7: thought Roman would win st I think we kind of
- 27:09Speaker 7: had a the lemma as to how that would happen.
- 27:12Speaker 7: I think they hit.
- 27:13Speaker 3: I mean in terms of even though.
- 27:14Speaker 7: I just complained about us the cycle of Roman, the
- 27:18Speaker 7: way they handled everything was great. I thought, I really like, uh,
- 27:25Speaker 7: when Bronxton Raids starts playing somebody out with with five
- 27:28Speaker 7: six seven whatever in his tsunamis uh, he's real great
- 27:33Speaker 7: with the whole Like.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Okay, I'm leaving, I'm leaving halfway down the ramp. Well
- 27:36Speaker 3: now I'm running back. I'm getting up there, and it's
- 27:39Speaker 3: jumping a gun, you.
- 27:40Speaker 7: Know, like it's almost uncomfortable, which is good, you know, Like,
- 27:44Speaker 7: and he really looked like he belonged in the ring
- 27:49Speaker 7: with Roman reigns, which is no small feet.
- 27:52Speaker 3: You know.
- 27:52Speaker 7: I think I said something about, you know who made
- 27:55Speaker 7: the second most money back in the back in the
- 27:58Speaker 7: Golden eight Days, in which the guy was wrestling Halkogan, right,
- 28:01Speaker 7: so like to be it's just there's no Tamman lives
- 28:04Speaker 7: in the Roman range, and being in the range just
- 28:07Speaker 7: at all with Roman rains is huge, huge opportunity, and
- 28:11Speaker 7: I think he absolutely made the most of it.
- 28:15Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he looked great.
- 28:18Speaker 8: Yeah, and not just being in the ring with Roman,
- 28:20Speaker 8: but being in there and looking good, Yeah, looking strong
- 28:24Speaker 8: and powerful. Like how many people that we see encounter
- 28:27Speaker 8: a Superman punch. Most people just eat that shit. Whereas
- 28:31Speaker 8: he actually had a spot in the match where he
- 28:33Speaker 8: countered the Superman punch, caught Roman and put him into
- 28:37Speaker 8: a death valley driver.
- 28:38Speaker 4: Was a pretty cool spot and encounter. But Hop and Wayne,
- 28:43Speaker 4: what were your thoughts on the match?
- 28:44Speaker 3: Oh?
- 28:44Speaker 1: Man, Like this guy got to go with Roman for
- 28:48Speaker 1: twenty two minutes. You know, some people who think that
- 28:52Speaker 1: Bronson can't put on an interesting match, Yeah, he can
- 28:55Speaker 1: with the right guy, and that right guy was Roman.
- 28:57Speaker 1: This you know, this night great rub for him. You know,
- 29:03Speaker 1: dancing in the ring with Roman. Not many guys get that,
- 29:06Speaker 1: especially a one on one. We're getting a lot of
- 29:08Speaker 1: tag matches. But I think Doyle brought it up last
- 29:11Speaker 1: episode with women was the last time Roman got a
- 29:14Speaker 1: singles match. You know, it's been a minute, you know,
- 29:18Speaker 1: it's it's been a minute since he's had a singles match.
- 29:21Speaker 1: Uh So I was pretty satisfied with this match, dude,
- 29:25Speaker 1: Like it told the whole not just the match, but
- 29:28Speaker 1: afterwards we got you know, it told in such the
- 29:31Speaker 1: amount of time that we had. It told a lot.
- 29:33Speaker 1: It filled in a lot of gaps of stories. It
- 29:36Speaker 1: wrote Roman reigns off. It elevated, you know, once again,
- 29:40Speaker 1: it elevates the group, you know. Uh and for the
- 29:46Speaker 1: match itself, I mean I was impressed. You know, the
- 29:49Speaker 1: way he handles himself in the ring, and I'm talking
- 29:53Speaker 1: about Bronson, Like the way he was able to pick
- 29:56Speaker 1: up Roman and give him that sit down power bomb
- 29:58Speaker 1: made it very believable, Like, you know, he's ready to
- 30:00Speaker 1: put his ass away taking that massive Samoa drop from
- 30:04Speaker 1: the top rope. But you know, at the end, you know,
- 30:08Speaker 1: we just got the spears of one, two three. But uh,
- 30:13Speaker 1: you know, like Doyle says, it's even the guy who
- 30:16Speaker 1: loses is still gonna make money, and not just that
- 30:19Speaker 1: he's his popularity is elevating because I don't think a
- 30:23Speaker 1: few years ago, you know, Bronson was unemployed. He got
- 30:27Speaker 1: let go, I don't think he was ever going to
- 30:29Speaker 1: come back to the company. And when he did, and
- 30:32Speaker 1: I think he really started to gain a lot of
- 30:35Speaker 1: momentum once he started tying himself with the bloodline somehow,
- 30:39Speaker 1: you know, once he got into war games, and I
- 30:41Speaker 1: feel like his career is finally going.
- 30:43Speaker 10: Somewhere, you know it it's rare started a little Yeah,
- 30:50Speaker 10: I think I thought it a little bit before that, right,
- 30:52Speaker 10: but like he kind of started to pick up that
- 30:54Speaker 10: momentum really when he went after Seth Rollins.
- 30:57Speaker 8: Once he started inducting people in the Tsunamis eight, it
- 31:00Speaker 8: just comes to the ring and just hitting multiple tsunamis,
- 31:03Speaker 8: and I think Seth was the first one.
- 31:05Speaker 4: And they remember he had the feud with braun Stroman, Yeah,
- 31:10Speaker 4: where they were going at it.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that for that short amount of time.
- 31:15Speaker 4: That was cool.
- 31:15Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, they made the mistake of making braun Stroman
- 31:19Speaker 8: go over. It should have been Bronson, but uh, you know,
- 31:22Speaker 8: they did have that, and then he kind of got
- 31:24Speaker 8: he got affiliated with the bloodline, and that's when we
- 31:28Speaker 8: saw him in Jacob's side by side and thought that
- 31:31Speaker 8: was perfect.
- 31:32Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it. Definitely he had that momentum going
- 31:36Speaker 4: before he fucked his foot up and wargames.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Yeah, I imagine where he'd be if
- 31:43Speaker 1: he didn't injure his foot. You know, actually, you know
- 31:46Speaker 1: it could be for the best too, because maybe he
- 31:49Speaker 1: wouldn't be where he is now, you know, aligning himself
- 31:53Speaker 1: in the picture with Seth Rollins being on TV every
- 31:58Speaker 1: Monday night, being on p Elei's now given the fact
- 32:02Speaker 1: that how many people are on the roster. I we're
- 32:04Speaker 1: only getting six matches, you know, out of like a
- 32:06Speaker 1: four or five hour show. I for after the match,
- 32:12Speaker 1: as soon as they removed that top cover on the table,
- 32:16Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, somebody's probably gonna go through that.
- 32:17Speaker 1: And then Roman, you know, he got the shoes back, which,
- 32:20Speaker 1: by the way, clever tying all the shoes together and
- 32:23Speaker 1: make them look like a fucking necklace. That Paul Hayman
- 32:25Speaker 1: wore out great. You know, just like I said, they
- 32:30Speaker 1: were gonna come out with the shoes and I was like,
- 32:32Speaker 1: is he gonna get him back? You know, is he
- 32:33Speaker 1: gonna just like take the shoes back? And yeah, we
- 32:35Speaker 1: were right, he's gonna take the shoes back. We've seen,
- 32:38Speaker 1: we saw him get a you know a little bit
- 32:40Speaker 1: of revenge on Paul Hamon got to choke his ass out.
- 32:43Speaker 1: But the second he stood up on that table, I
- 32:47Speaker 1: was like, why why, why why do you gotta go
- 32:49Speaker 1: to the table. And I was like, you know, worst breaker.
- 32:53Speaker 1: You know if we we mentioned that too last episode,
- 32:56Speaker 1: like you know, you're not gonna fucking fly out every
- 33:00Speaker 1: everybody else but not Braun and not you know, use him.
- 33:03Speaker 1: So this is exactly the perfect spot for him. And
- 33:06Speaker 1: it was great dude spearing him through that table and
- 33:08Speaker 1: and then the students, the multiple tsunami splashes and and Doyle,
- 33:12Speaker 1: I agree. The the they get me sometimes, man, Like
- 33:15Speaker 1: they're walking up the ram, I'm like, oh, they're done.
- 33:17Speaker 1: And then I even get up like okay, I'm gonna
- 33:19Speaker 1: go get a drink or something, and then they're like,
- 33:22Speaker 1: you know, Wade bears.
- 33:23Speaker 6: Like oh, my god, he's coming back.
- 33:25Speaker 1: We'll go ahead's stop him. And there's like ten men
- 33:28Speaker 1: trying to stop him, and then they can't, you know,
- 33:31Speaker 1: so they just get the hell out of his way, and.
- 33:34Speaker 7: You know, and yeah, I mean he reminds me of Yeah,
- 33:38Speaker 7: which I guess is kind of a pretty obvious comparison.
- 33:42Speaker 4: Yeah like that.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, though, to be honest, to
- 33:46Speaker 1: have a guy with that fucking size to like trust
- 33:50Speaker 1: that he's gonna jump off the top rope and do
- 33:52Speaker 1: it multiple times and not kill you, you know what
- 33:55Speaker 1: I mean, Like, there's a lot of trust in that
- 33:57Speaker 1: because that's that's a big board right there.
- 33:59Speaker 3: You know. I loved him doing it on the on
- 34:03Speaker 3: the backboard too.
- 34:05Speaker 1: That great.
- 34:07Speaker 8: Uh yeah, dude, you know I And for him to
- 34:11Speaker 8: be willing to take the big bumps himself, not just
- 34:13Speaker 8: be the one to dish him out because exactly someone
- 34:17Speaker 8: drop off the top rope from Roman as well.
- 34:20Speaker 4: You're seeing him take a bunch of big spots.
- 34:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:24Speaker 1: And then you know, the for me, the hilariousness of
- 34:29Speaker 1: Roman like fucking strapped to that gurney or whatever, and
- 34:34Speaker 1: then them just beating the ship out of him while
- 34:36Speaker 1: I still strapped and like, you know, I always think
- 34:40Speaker 1: it's funny, like when when the face wrestler is all
- 34:43Speaker 1: like getting medical help. They're in like the backboard and everything,
- 34:48Speaker 1: and they're they're in the little next strap thing and
- 34:51Speaker 1: they're on their way of like something's just like rolling
- 34:53Speaker 1: them out, and all of a sudden, the heel comes
- 34:55Speaker 1: back and like pushes them just fucking pushes the card
- 34:58Speaker 1: over or just rams them into a wall, and just
- 35:00Speaker 1: like you know, I always think it's funny. It's it's
- 35:03Speaker 1: dick because like your hands are tied your next tide
- 35:07Speaker 1: and you're just gonna like tip me over on my face.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Like come on, dude, as long.
- 35:12Speaker 8: As you don't do something reckless like Big Show when
- 35:14Speaker 8: he slammed Ray mystereo into the post and dropped him
- 35:16Speaker 8: on his head.
- 35:18Speaker 1: I've seen that video so many times it blows my mind.
- 35:21Speaker 1: And like he just picks him up like he's nothing,
- 35:23Speaker 1: dude strapped to the backboard, just slams against that ring post.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Like if you haven't seen that, like google that Raymond studio,
- 35:30Speaker 1: his ass handed to him by Big Show.
- 35:32Speaker 8: Uh, and then let Ray go and Ray falls smack
- 35:36Speaker 8: on his face onto the floor. I'm pretty sure. I
- 35:38Speaker 8: think Ray got a concussion from that.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Why am I laughing? That's fucked up?
- 35:47Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 35:48Speaker 7: Yeah, And I did you know, we had talked about
- 35:50Speaker 7: how Seth's cronies were gonna, you know, whitch match would
- 35:53Speaker 7: they effect or with you know, would they affects both
- 35:56Speaker 7: the Seth match and then Bronson reidmatch or whatever.
- 35:59Speaker 3: And I think they did a good job.
- 36:00Speaker 7: Of kind of even though it kind of made things
- 36:03Speaker 7: maybe a tad predictable, you know, then the great way
- 36:06Speaker 7: to get rid.
- 36:06Speaker 3: Of them also, you know, for the from the main event.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Uh So I thought that was kind of clever.
- 36:13Speaker 7: And it's always good when they were able to, you know,
- 36:19Speaker 7: matches depend on other matches.
- 36:21Speaker 3: Or or or related to each other somehow, you know
- 36:24Speaker 3: what I mean. That's that's always a good thing. I
- 36:26Speaker 3: think when they're able to to do that like that, synergy.
- 36:32Speaker 4: Definitely that.
- 36:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:33Speaker 1: I saw a meme today of it was Roman Reigns
- 36:38Speaker 1: and Paul Hammond in the hospital together playing video games
- 36:41Speaker 1: the New two K. You were sitting in like two
- 36:44Speaker 1: hospital beds. I was like, dude, AI R is fucking crazy.
- 36:48Speaker 1: So someone comes to wrestling, Uh yeah, man, that's all
- 36:53Speaker 1: I got for this match. It ate up a lot
- 36:57Speaker 1: of time. It ate up almost like like the first
- 37:00Speaker 1: like fifty minutes of the show.
- 37:03Speaker 8: Yeah, huge chunk. I was kind of surprised Roman choked
- 37:07Speaker 8: him out. I knew Roman was gonna do something to him.
- 37:09Speaker 8: I thought he was just gonna like turn around to him,
- 37:12Speaker 8: turn back and Superman punch him and just lay him out.
- 37:15Speaker 4: Right.
- 37:17Speaker 8: But as if for that match and it's aftermath, moving
- 37:24Speaker 8: on to the second match of the night, which was
- 37:32Speaker 8: the very disappointing and frustrating The Borderlands for Brawl, also
- 37:41Speaker 8: known as the tag team match for the WWE Tag
- 37:45Speaker 8: Team Championship, which saw the Wye Six, a team of
- 37:49Speaker 8: Joe Gacy and Dexter Loomis, coming out to defend against
- 37:55Speaker 8: the Borderlands Minions that the street profits have been reduced
- 38:00Speaker 8: too coming out commercials.
- 38:04Speaker 7: See what right, it's not enough fucking commercials and adds
- 38:07Speaker 7: oncovery everything. We need to turn the entrances into ads.
- 38:11Speaker 7: I mean, I think we've done this before, right, didn't
- 38:13Speaker 7: do it?
- 38:14Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 38:14Speaker 8: We did it with the war Raiders, Yes, yep for
- 38:18Speaker 8: I don't remember what game it was, but yeah, they
- 38:20Speaker 8: came out and cosplay for a game once.
- 38:25Speaker 4: Yeah, this needs to I got.
- 38:30Speaker 8: I was hoping it wouldn't. It would have been a
- 38:32Speaker 8: one time thing with the war Raiders, but clearly it's not.
- 38:35Speaker 8: Clearly if somebody has a product that they want to
- 38:37Speaker 8: shill and they're willing to fork up the right amount
- 38:40Speaker 8: of money for it, wwe will make some of their
- 38:43Speaker 8: wrestlers put on some gear.
- 38:46Speaker 4: And say this match was brought to you by blah.
- 38:50Speaker 8: So, in other words, the match wasn't brought to us
- 38:52Speaker 8: because you know, motherfuckers actually earned a match or warranted
- 38:56Speaker 8: a match, or there's a reason actually behind it. It's
- 39:00Speaker 8: just nope, somebody paid for it, so YouTube motherfuckers get
- 39:03Speaker 8: to put on this gear and go out there and
- 39:05Speaker 8: have a match that will ultimately mean nothing.
- 39:09Speaker 4: And then the add freaking you know, salt to the wound.
- 39:12Speaker 8: Of course, the Wyatt six successfully defend, which means the
- 39:16Speaker 8: Street for Offits have now taken another l.
- 39:22Speaker 4: I could care.
- 39:25Speaker 8: There was nothing to else really about the match worth
- 39:27Speaker 8: talking about. The only thing to me that was even
- 39:32Speaker 8: remotely interesting or possibly interesting going forward is the fact
- 39:37Speaker 8: that they seem to be teasing a potential breakup in
- 39:41Speaker 8: the Street Profits. We saw a few weeks ago montes
- 39:46Speaker 8: Ford had a promo by himself or a backstage vignette
- 39:50Speaker 8: by himself with no Angelo Dawkins. I think we've seen
- 39:55Speaker 8: another segment where there was a backstage promo and BFAB
- 39:58Speaker 8: and Dawkins were the only ones that talk and montes
- 40:01Speaker 8: four didn't say anything, and I think wasn't it at
- 40:04Speaker 8: the beginning of this match. Normally TZ is the one
- 40:08Speaker 8: that starts the matches, but instead Dalk stopped him and
- 40:13Speaker 8: Dangel Dawkins chose to start the.
- 40:15Speaker 4: Match, and Tes kind of just looked down, like the fuck.
- 40:20Speaker 3: S.
- 40:20Speaker 8: They seem to be teasing a potential breakup between the two,
- 40:24Speaker 8: which if that's where this goes, I'm okay with it.
- 40:29Speaker 8: If it leads to a montes Ford push, which is
- 40:32Speaker 8: long overdue. Nothing against Dawkins, he can go in the
- 40:36Speaker 8: ring as well. I wish him success, But clearly, between
- 40:40Speaker 8: the two, TZ is the one that has the main
- 40:45Speaker 8: event potential. And yeah, definitely, yeah, they were talking before
- 40:50Speaker 8: the match like they was gonna as far as who's
- 40:54Speaker 8: gonna go out there.
- 40:55Speaker 4: There was definite tension there.
- 40:56Speaker 8: You can see they going back for about who's to
- 41:00Speaker 8: start to act like he was going through when Dogs
- 41:02Speaker 8: stopped him and just throw them to the back, like
- 41:05Speaker 8: now you get out the ring. So there's something there.
- 41:09Speaker 8: Hopefully it develops into something. But the match itself, yeah,
- 41:14Speaker 8: fuck the match. Nothing special happened.
- 41:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:19Speaker 7: Yeah, the Greek profits had had communication issues or whatever.
- 41:24Speaker 7: They also had had lost the numbers game as well,
- 41:27Speaker 7: so they kind of felt like there was they were
- 41:30Speaker 7: in a no win situation. Usually when the the WIA
- 41:36Speaker 7: six music starts, my eyes usually start going to the.
- 41:40Speaker 3: Telephone machine, uh, because I think they're fucking stupid.
- 41:44Speaker 7: So I haven't really watched much of them, but i'll
- 41:46Speaker 7: tell you what, Man Gacy uh impressed the sit out
- 41:49Speaker 7: of me.
- 41:49Speaker 3: He looked really great.
- 41:51Speaker 7: Uh, and I hope he got some more to do
- 41:53Speaker 7: than being the living embodiment of a puppet.
- 41:59Speaker 3: Just why it's ext things just dumbished it, I think.
- 42:02Speaker 7: And then I feel like that they fucking we were
- 42:04Speaker 7: talking about how great this backdown Tag division was. It
- 42:07Speaker 7: seems like just a couple of episodes ago, and I
- 42:10Speaker 7: feel like they've just taken all of that and fucking
- 42:13Speaker 7: fucked it up.
- 42:14Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like the moment they put the titles
- 42:16Speaker 4: on the six, they sucked all the momentum out of it.
- 42:20Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, because the.
- 42:26Speaker 3: Matter, but it's just why I think it's so dumb.
- 42:29Speaker 3: I can't get over it.
- 42:30Speaker 7: And then you put on top of that, uh, one
- 42:33Speaker 7: of the teams is consemplated the video game for a
- 42:36Speaker 7: comer and that we're finally doing this. Maybe I think
- 42:40Speaker 7: we've I feel mc kee's it a few times. Uh,
- 42:43Speaker 7: the street profit brain comes and.
- 42:45Speaker 3: It's like, we should have done this fucking two years ago.
- 42:48Speaker 7: Like I feel like it's gonna be like John Cena
- 42:51Speaker 7: Seal term, like yes we we, yes, we did want this,
- 42:54Speaker 7: but we wanted it fucking years ago.
- 42:57Speaker 8: Right, we're over now, and when we wanted it, we
- 43:02Speaker 8: wanted it to be Yeah, And plus we wanted to
- 43:05Speaker 8: be an amical breakup, not a beef breakup. Like, Okay,
- 43:08Speaker 8: we've done this as far as we can. We can
- 43:10Speaker 8: go our separate ways. One love, brother, always got your back,
- 43:13Speaker 8: you do you, I'm gonna do me. But now they're
- 43:15Speaker 8: going back down the same old traditional route of their beefing.
- 43:21Speaker 3: The third time. I feel like, so it's just like
- 43:23Speaker 3: why should I take it seriously?
- 43:24Speaker 4: This time?
- 43:25Speaker 3: You guys are almost programs? How many other times? Like
- 43:28Speaker 3: why should I care?
- 43:33Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's it's frustrating and it's annoying. And
- 43:39Speaker 4: like you said, they sucked.
- 43:41Speaker 8: Why Six have come in and sucked all the momentum
- 43:43Speaker 8: out of the tag division before we had all these
- 43:46Speaker 8: competitive teams going back and forth beating the crap at
- 43:49Speaker 8: each other. You know, justifiable reason for the tag titles
- 43:52Speaker 8: to be hot potatoes in this situation because it makes
- 43:56Speaker 8: all because all the teams are fairly even and equal
- 43:59Speaker 8: with each other, so anyone could beat anybody at any
- 44:01Speaker 8: single moment. But then all of a sudden, here comes
- 44:04Speaker 8: to ya, six out of nowhere, and they just show up,
- 44:06Speaker 8: take the tag titles, and sudden they can't nobody beat
- 44:09Speaker 8: them right, and they supposedly they have the numbers game,
- 44:12Speaker 8: but yet every tag team in the division hates them.
- 44:17Speaker 8: So why don't they all just get together, gang up,
- 44:19Speaker 8: beat the fuck out of them, get the tag bet
- 44:21Speaker 8: titles back, and let's all fight amongst each other. And
- 44:23Speaker 8: anytime they could show up, we get together, We jump them,
- 44:26Speaker 8: get them about the paint.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Well, we saw a little bit then that ladders match
- 44:32Speaker 1: we saw last where it was like multiple teams they
- 44:35Speaker 1: hauled us kind of ganged up on the wyats right away.
- 44:40Speaker 8: Yeah, for all of five minutes at the start of
- 44:42Speaker 8: the match, and then went back to beating on each other,
- 44:45Speaker 8: and then still didn't have enough sense to say, oh shit,
- 44:49Speaker 8: these motherfuckers getting the numbers game back on us. Uh,
- 44:53Speaker 8: let's jump back on them.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Nope, yep, man, you know what, agree this match was
- 45:02Speaker 1: the worst, probably on the car. It could have been
- 45:05Speaker 1: left off the car.
- 45:07Speaker 4: Who whoaha, whoa whoa whoa whoa? No, no, no, no, no,
- 45:14Speaker 4: we don't care about it. It sucked.
- 45:16Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, oh controversy.
- 45:21Speaker 3: Anyway.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Uh, you know what, this match really does prove that,
- 45:27Speaker 1: like montes Ford has it all to go, main event,
- 45:29Speaker 1: this man is thirty five. Let's not waste any more
- 45:33Speaker 1: time here. I mean, this man was getting the crowd pumped.
- 45:37Speaker 1: This man is athletic as hell. This man has charisma,
- 45:40Speaker 1: he has I feel like the factor. Like you know,
- 45:44Speaker 1: sometimes when you're looking at a professional wrestler, you know
- 45:47Speaker 1: there's a checklist of things, you know, like you got
- 45:50Speaker 1: to have a decent gimmick, you gotta have, you know,
- 45:52Speaker 1: connection with the crowd, you gotta have a good mic ability,
- 45:56Speaker 1: a good in ring ability, And I feel like sometimes
- 46:00Speaker 1: you just need to check off all those things to
- 46:03Speaker 1: be up there in the main event, And now is
- 46:07Speaker 1: the time I think montest Ford has that ship like
- 46:09Speaker 1: they're like there were several times in this match I
- 46:12Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, oh shit, that's because montes Ford
- 46:15Speaker 1: throwing ship. You know, like that that spot where he
- 46:18Speaker 1: jumps over the corner ring post up over you know,
- 46:22Speaker 1: clearing the steps and everything like, that's fucking crazy. That's
- 46:26Speaker 1: some that's you know, that takes some athleticism to fucking
- 46:30Speaker 1: jump that high and clear that not not jumping off
- 46:32Speaker 1: of the ring post, just totally clearing it and the steps.
- 46:36Speaker 1: You know, in the fucking way I'd be trying that ship.
- 46:40Speaker 3: But.
- 46:41Speaker 8: You know I've stepped for the longest. That Shaw that uh,
- 46:45Speaker 8: montes Ford reminds me of of early Seawn Michaels.
- 46:50Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's not.
- 46:53Speaker 8: Again, that's not to say that his career is going
- 46:55Speaker 8: to measure up to Shawn Michaels, that he would be that,
- 46:57Speaker 8: but he reminds me of of early nineties Shawn Michaels.
- 47:01Speaker 8: Like Shawn Michaels fresh out of the breakup with the Rockers,
- 47:06Speaker 8: Montez gives me that same vibe.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, man, like we all have no idea
- 47:14Speaker 1: what's gonna happen if they break up, What's gonna happen
- 47:17Speaker 1: to Dawkins?
- 47:18Speaker 3: You know?
- 47:18Speaker 1: And I mean just watching the match now with them.
- 47:22Speaker 3: Hopefully he turns out better than Margins and you.
- 47:28Speaker 4: Just like find some decent fitting wife beaters.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Yeah, at this.
- 47:33Speaker 7: Point, I kinda I kind of want some type of
- 47:37Speaker 7: like barbershop type scenario where uh Montage just fucking throws.
- 47:43Speaker 3: Dawkins off the citage or whatever.
- 47:46Speaker 1: You know.
- 47:46Speaker 7: Like sometimes at this point, I just I don't even
- 47:49Speaker 7: I don't even think I want a story, like a break.
- 47:52Speaker 3: Up story between them. I just want him to snap.
- 47:55Speaker 7: We don't maybe don't see Dawkins for a couple of
- 47:57Speaker 7: months until there's a draft or whatever, and then he
- 47:59Speaker 7: goes see and maybe I don't need the whole break
- 48:02Speaker 7: up storry. I just want to see Teds get rid
- 48:04Speaker 7: of them and go.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Yeah, there's talk of ESPN doing a draft WW draft
- 48:12Speaker 1: style for ESPN. I heard rumors of that that would
- 48:16Speaker 1: be around a good time to possibly break this tag
- 48:20Speaker 1: team up, because I mean I am constantly, like I said,
- 48:22Speaker 1: we're seeing cracks in the foundation. Finally we're seeing something
- 48:28Speaker 1: is changing within the street profits. So there's things that
- 48:31Speaker 1: didn't work.
- 48:33Speaker 3: You know.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Obviously they were Bobby Lashley for a while. They were
- 48:36Speaker 1: healed and they were faced. They were healed and they
- 48:37Speaker 1: were faced. That didn't work.
- 48:39Speaker 5: You know.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Then they they're doing their own thing again without Bobby
- 48:43Speaker 1: Lashley when he left kind of floundered for a while.
- 48:46Speaker 1: I mean, they need something, they need something. They added
- 48:49Speaker 1: b fab Uh.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was a good aggestion.
- 48:56Speaker 1: What's that.
- 48:58Speaker 3: I thought she was a good addition for them.
- 49:00Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she is. She's a strong mouthpiece for him.
- 49:04Speaker 4: She can go and.
- 49:07Speaker 8: You know, if they would ever wherever to go the
- 49:09Speaker 8: heel route with them, she obviously could have been that
- 49:12Speaker 8: you know, interfering manager and such.
- 49:14Speaker 4: But no, she has been a good addition for them.
- 49:16Speaker 4: She jails well with them.
- 49:18Speaker 8: And yeah, and she's also you know, finally getting some
- 49:21Speaker 8: shine on herself and the occasional opportunities to go out there.
- 49:24Speaker 4: And get physical.
- 49:25Speaker 8: So yeah, I totally agree, And if I would like,
- 49:31Speaker 8: I agree with you as well that I don't want
- 49:33Speaker 8: to see a breakup storyline. If they're gonna break up,
- 49:37Speaker 8: just break up, whether it's amicably or with beef move
- 49:41Speaker 8: them to the other brand, split them up, and just
- 49:43Speaker 8: go from there. I don't want to see the storyline
- 49:45Speaker 8: where they're beefing with each other and at least to
- 49:48Speaker 8: matches or anything like that, because that never goes well
- 49:52Speaker 8: for the person who's on the losing side, right, And
- 49:54Speaker 8: we know if they were to beef, montes Ford is
- 49:56Speaker 8: the one who was going to come out on top,
- 49:58Speaker 8: and Angela Dawkins is going to be the one who
- 50:00Speaker 8: comes out on the losing side.
- 50:02Speaker 1: Right. Seeing tag teams like this never work out. We've
- 50:07Speaker 1: seen tag teams getting broken up before new in neutral
- 50:10Speaker 1: terms because of the draft. You know, I remember the
- 50:14Speaker 1: Dudley's being separated for the first time. That's how we
- 50:17Speaker 1: got Devon Dudley.
- 50:19Speaker 3: That's awful.
- 50:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it doesn't work for everybody, you know.
- 50:23Speaker 3: That's how we got that's time we got Batista.
- 50:26Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the draft also, the draft also
- 50:31Speaker 1: led to the Hardy Boys being separated, you know, Left
- 50:35Speaker 1: Edge and Christian being separated.
- 50:38Speaker 4: How we got version one. Yeah.
- 50:41Speaker 1: Some some people grow from that and you know, they benefit,
- 50:45Speaker 1: but some people just they can't. We have unfortunately, Uh,
- 50:49Speaker 1: there's probably a support group out there for Tag team
- 50:52Speaker 1: partners that didn't make it after the split up, you know,
- 50:54Speaker 1: And I'm sure Marty Jeannetti is part of that group.
- 50:59Speaker 4: Yeah, Marty, and they would be the president of that group.
- 51:02Speaker 4: I mean.
- 51:03Speaker 8: But even among the tag teams you mentioned, there's always
- 51:05Speaker 8: one who shines and one who doesn't. Out of the Dudley's,
- 51:09Speaker 8: Bubba Ray is the one who probably had the better
- 51:11Speaker 8: singles career than Devon, although neither one of them was
- 51:14Speaker 8: that spectacular. Among the Hardy's, I mean not then among yeah,
- 51:18Speaker 8: Mongharty's Jeff was clearly the biggest star. It took a
- 51:21Speaker 8: while for Matt to find his footing, Like the version
- 51:24Speaker 8: one thing was okay, he made him a decent big
- 51:27Speaker 8: card talent, but it wasn't.
- 51:31Speaker 3: Stuff was elsewhere right right.
- 51:33Speaker 8: Matt made the most of this ship when he got
- 51:35Speaker 8: out of w WE, you know, was he started the
- 51:38Speaker 8: whole what was the ship called.
- 51:43Speaker 4: Escape?
- 51:44Speaker 8: Yeah, the delete stuff what he was calling then. But yeah,
- 51:48Speaker 8: that's when he finally found himself. Yeah, and with Edge
- 51:52Speaker 8: and Christian. Clearly Edge was the initial star and Christian floundered.
- 51:59Speaker 8: Remember the let's not forget his whole temper tantrum bit
- 52:02Speaker 8: that he was doing.
- 52:06Speaker 4: That and whatever you did it first, fucker. But yeah,
- 52:12Speaker 4: it's always it always goes one way or the other
- 52:14Speaker 4: with one of them is perfect.
- 52:21Speaker 8: So I mean, I don't want to see dangel o'dawkins
- 52:24Speaker 8: potentially join that club, even if he may find his
- 52:29Speaker 8: place eventually. I would much rather him have a better
- 52:34Speaker 8: start out than being the loser of a tag team beef.
- 52:42Speaker 1: Oh, can we move on to my next favorite match?
- 52:45Speaker 1: Probably match of the night, right, Doyle? Oh my god,
- 52:51Speaker 1: I'm so excited to hear his opinion. Please let him
- 52:54Speaker 1: go first.
- 53:00Speaker 8: I mean, well, the next match, yes, was Becky Lynch
- 53:05Speaker 8: versus Nicki Bella for the Women's Inner Continental Championship. And
- 53:12Speaker 8: the only thing I have to say about this match
- 53:14Speaker 8: is I understand that we want to celebrate our legends
- 53:23Speaker 8: and that we want them to be seen as much
- 53:29Speaker 8: as possible and get their moments for the fans to
- 53:34Speaker 8: you know, show their appreciation, celebrate them, and all that
- 53:40Speaker 8: that being said, I don't see any reason why in
- 53:45Speaker 8: the hell John Cena had to insert himself in this match,
- 53:49Speaker 8: and I believe Nicky Bello was absolutely in one hundred
- 53:53Speaker 8: correct by disaster kicking him off of the top.
- 53:56Speaker 4: Rope in the middle of the match. That's what the
- 53:58Speaker 4: fuck he got jumping in there. She was too good there.
- 54:01Speaker 4: That's all I've got to say about this match, you.
- 54:08Speaker 3: Know, I mean I totally agree with you. I mean,
- 54:11Speaker 3: some of these people just do not belong back in
- 54:14Speaker 3: the rain. But uh, she was. I mean, Nicki mill
- 54:18Speaker 3: wasn't very good.
- 54:19Speaker 7: Uh, you know a decade ago or whatever when she
- 54:21Speaker 7: was regularly you know, on the show and they kind
- 54:25Speaker 7: of started up, they were like, yeah she was.
- 54:29Speaker 3: She was you know, she was named the top of
- 54:31Speaker 3: the card at the time when women's wanted very good,
- 54:34Speaker 3: you know. And it's just like.
- 54:36Speaker 7: The crowd fucking hated her and they loved Becky and
- 54:39Speaker 7: give me to Heel, you know, the crowd the ship
- 54:42Speaker 7: all over Nicki Bella. They said that she was fox machine.
- 54:46Speaker 3: Uh, you know, kick whatever front find whatever the hell
- 54:49Speaker 3: it was supposed to be. Was terrible. You know.
- 54:52Speaker 7: There are a couple of moments where she had she
- 54:55Speaker 7: was openion Betty set off the announced tables.
- 54:59Speaker 3: It was awful. Well, her head with the even close.
- 55:02Speaker 3: I'm not saying she needs to actually make contact, but
- 55:06Speaker 3: at least looks like you're trying, you know.
- 55:09Speaker 11: And then she did a similar thing against the post
- 55:12Speaker 11: outside the ring. It was not even close. It's just
- 55:17Speaker 11: I mean, I know it's a fake quote.
- 55:20Speaker 7: Unquote, but it's like Jesus Christ, like she's trying to
- 55:25Speaker 7: make it look somewhat unbelievable.
- 55:29Speaker 3: I don't know. Nicky's just terrible.
- 55:32Speaker 7: God, I hope this if they had something grandiose planning
- 55:35Speaker 7: for her. God, I hope somebody is reconsidering that. But
- 55:41Speaker 7: you know, I think we're going to see the exact
- 55:42Speaker 7: same thing with somebody else.
- 55:44Speaker 3: In the not too distant future. But I don't think
- 55:47Speaker 3: Becky belongs in the ring anymore, or not that I'm sorry.
- 55:51Speaker 3: Of course Becky belongs to the ring.
- 55:52Speaker 7: She's only greats of all the time, Nikki, I don't
- 55:54Speaker 7: think belongs to the rig anymore.
- 55:56Speaker 3: I really don't need to see her again ever, Wayne.
- 56:05Speaker 1: Oh Man, Dude, I think Nicki looked fantastic in that ring.
- 56:11Speaker 1: I mean physically, she looks fantastic, you know what I
- 56:13Speaker 1: mean for forty one years old. I mean she looked
- 56:16Speaker 1: fucking good, right. I mean, I mean we can at
- 56:20Speaker 1: least all agree on that, right, I mean, she came back,
- 56:23Speaker 1: she looked in great shape. For a lot of the
- 56:27Speaker 1: women who come back, you know, or any wrestler comes
- 56:29Speaker 1: back from being gone for such a long time. You know,
- 56:32Speaker 1: it's always hard, you know we uh were we so
- 56:35Speaker 1: accustomed to, like, I guess what you look like last
- 56:38Speaker 1: time we saw you? You know, you know, Seamus was
- 56:43Speaker 1: always jacked and he came back fat, and we were like,
- 56:45Speaker 1: that's not the Shamus we know, go back, go back
- 56:49Speaker 1: and fix it.
- 56:50Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well Seamus wasn't well.
- 56:53Speaker 1: One.
- 56:53Speaker 8: Shamus is still an active wrestler, yeah, yeah, not training
- 56:57Speaker 8: as well. Nicki has been perfectly healthy, so there's no
- 57:01Speaker 8: reason for her to not stay in shape unless she
- 57:03Speaker 8: just completely let herself go, which we've seen you know,
- 57:09Speaker 8: her in tabloids. She obviously has not done that. If
- 57:12Speaker 8: she had let herself go, she wouldn't be coming back
- 57:13Speaker 8: to w w EE, right, Yeah.
- 57:18Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. Honestly, I didn't think we'd ever
- 57:21Speaker 1: see Nikki Bella wrestling again, period, unless it was rumble appearances,
- 57:27Speaker 1: because I have heard her previous neck injuries. Uh so,
- 57:31Speaker 1: I honestly didn't think we'd even get her wrestling with
- 57:33Speaker 1: anybody from the modern you know, this modern roster, hopefully
- 57:40Speaker 1: not too anymore. I mean, I agree with Doyle, there
- 57:42Speaker 1: was so many botches. I mean, you guys, obviously the
- 57:46Speaker 1: given you know, the the kick to John Cena off
- 57:50Speaker 1: the rope. Uh god, it's fucking all. And you couldn't
- 57:54Speaker 1: even Becky should have played it off like Samoa Joe,
- 57:57Speaker 1: you know, just like walked away like it was planned.
- 57:59Speaker 1: You know, could have easily have done something like that,
- 58:02Speaker 1: just you.
- 58:02Speaker 3: Know, it looks like she was running to sell it. Kicks.
- 58:05Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of hard.
- 58:06Speaker 8: That's the problem is it's hard to play it off
- 58:08Speaker 8: when it's that bad and out of place.
- 58:13Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, really bad.
- 58:17Speaker 4: Just saw a Nikki midair, like the fuck yeah.
- 58:22Speaker 1: I mean, it's come on, it's bound to happen, right, yeah, yeah,
- 58:25Speaker 1: somebody's bound to forget a sequence or two, or I mean,
- 58:29Speaker 1: if we get her down to brass tacks. How hard
- 58:31Speaker 1: it is probably to run an entire layout, an entire match,
- 58:34Speaker 1: you know, and remember all the steps and the timing
- 58:37Speaker 1: and that's all. But uh yeah, yeah, Doyle, I also
- 58:42Speaker 1: agree with the I even have it written down here
- 58:45Speaker 1: with the slam in the head on the table. Becky
- 58:47Speaker 1: was just awful with it. It wasn't even just Nicky,
- 58:50Speaker 1: it was Becky too.
- 58:51Speaker 3: Just not selling any.
- 58:54Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was so cringey. You know, there
- 58:59Speaker 1: was a few spot I enjoyed and enjoyed the bellabuster
- 59:02Speaker 1: on the outside of the steps. I enjoyed the the new,
- 59:05Speaker 1: the fearless Locke. It's it's just like Johnsena's s t
- 59:10Speaker 1: f U, but she kind of has her like Torso
- 59:13Speaker 1: turned out the direction.
- 59:15Speaker 3: You know. Michael Cole was like, Oh, she's put so
- 59:20Speaker 3: many opponents away with this roof. She called one before
- 59:25Speaker 3: exactly not one.
- 59:28Speaker 1: Yeah, though I even wrote it down, I was like,
- 59:31Speaker 1: I've never seen this move done before by her.
- 59:36Speaker 7: Michael Cole is getting getting to be insufferable. He's getting
- 59:39Speaker 7: like a different kind of bad than he.
- 59:41Speaker 3: Used to be.
- 59:42Speaker 8: Yeah, And then you know, they was the same thing
- 59:44Speaker 8: about her a little bit, a little bit of over
- 59:47Speaker 8: selling in some of his commentary.
- 59:49Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 59:52Speaker 7: One thing I could say with the rations, I like
- 59:54Speaker 7: winning the ratchs for the the backslide.
- 59:57Speaker 3: That's kind of funny. They're they're calling it the lynch pin.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: I kind of like that, yeah character than John did.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: I mean she's ruin and wrestling. You know, she's gonna
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: start winning with a backslide.
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: You know, Nikki Bella wasn't even worthy of a man
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: handle slam.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but she gave one though, which was weird. Not
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: worthy of taking one, but worthy of giving one.
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: That was weird. Yeah yeah, I forgot about that that part.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then they had the lynch pin.
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: I kind of like the lynch pin. It's nice because
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: it is kind of heals, you know, like I got
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: one over on you. What what the hell you're gonna
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: do about it? You know, but if you can't keep
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: him down for the three count, you know, down down.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: Were ang with this match. It was just like thirteen minutes.
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: I think, like what I mean, that's way too long,
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: you know, like I don't know, we never talk about again.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: Yeah, three seconds shorter than the Borderlands match.
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: Really, that's atomach longer, right, forty five minutes.
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: That's what the that's what That's a difference in action
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: right there. Make Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:01:32Speaker 8: Well the next match after this was Russev facing Seamus
- 1:01:39Speaker 8: and a good old fashioned like they really have that
- 1:01:43Speaker 8: in the whole name, good old fashioned donnie Brook match,
- 1:01:47Speaker 8: Like not donny Brook match. No, it's a good old
- 1:01:49Speaker 8: fashioned donny Brook match as opposed to the new and
- 1:01:53Speaker 8: improved donny Brook match.
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: M hm.
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: So, but this match was.
- 1:02:00Speaker 8: Pretty much what you would expect it from a and
- 1:02:02Speaker 8: E no DQ match with a bunch of big excuse me,
- 1:02:06Speaker 8: big strong guys in it.
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: They beat the crap out of each other. They used
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: a lot of weapons.
- 1:02:11Speaker 8: It was dinning Brooks, so they integrated, integrated some dinny
- 1:02:14Speaker 8: Brook elements like Lalley's and barrels and stuff, and eventually
- 1:02:20Speaker 8: russe F Baye Chamus tap out went on for twenty minutes,
- 1:02:26Speaker 8: which surprised me that this match went that long. I
- 1:02:31Speaker 8: did I think they was gonna give this match twenty minutes,
- 1:02:33Speaker 8: but they did.
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: Yeah, this one could have been a little shilter also,
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: I thought.
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: Yes, it definitely could have it.
- 1:02:41Speaker 8: Really it took a long time to get going. And yeah,
- 1:02:47Speaker 8: I mean, and it wasn't because that. It's because it
- 1:02:52Speaker 8: was just basically the a standard fair match that you
- 1:02:56Speaker 8: would see, like I said, from big guys. They did
- 1:02:59Speaker 8: all the typical big big man power moved stuff, they
- 1:03:02Speaker 8: did the typical spots like there wasn't really anything that
- 1:03:06Speaker 8: made it unique or special or isolated until you got
- 1:03:10Speaker 8: much later in the match. And that's when it finally
- 1:03:13Speaker 8: started to get interesting when it got much later and
- 1:03:16Speaker 8: then dragged on like you know, Russev hitting the Russev
- 1:03:20Speaker 8: lock on or the clutch camera clutch or whatever on
- 1:03:23Speaker 8: the what you call it on the barrels.
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: That was at least yeah, that was at least unique.
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: And then.
- 1:03:31Speaker 8: Seamus turned around and then hitting was a white noise
- 1:03:34Speaker 8: onto the table from the barrels. Like it was around
- 1:03:38Speaker 8: that time when the match finally started getting interesting. We
- 1:03:41Speaker 8: were finally getting some unique, some actual unique spots integrating
- 1:03:46Speaker 8: the props and stuff that were there and which was
- 1:03:49Speaker 8: then turning into near falls that people were kicking out.
- 1:03:53Speaker 8: That's when the match finally got interesting. But they really
- 1:03:56Speaker 8: could have cut out a lot of the fluff in
- 1:03:59Speaker 8: the middle. It got to this stuff better, and I
- 1:04:02Speaker 8: think it would have made for an overall better match. Yeah,
- 1:04:05Speaker 8: I'm in agreement with you. Do all, this match did
- 1:04:07Speaker 8: not need to be twenty minutes. It could have been
- 1:04:10Speaker 8: a good, solid, hard hitting fifteen Yeah, and I think
- 1:04:14Speaker 8: it would have been an overall better match.
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: Were your thoughts on it?
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, I mean I agree with you. I think
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: it went on a little longer than he needed to.
- 1:04:26Speaker 7: Yeah, But and it was fun, don't get me wrong,
- 1:04:28Speaker 7: and you know, as predicted, Chamis looked like the events
- 1:04:32Speaker 7: for me crying by the end, but it was just
- 1:04:37Speaker 7: kind of standard and nothing really stood out particularly, you
- 1:04:42Speaker 7: know that even that white noise off of the barrel
- 1:04:45Speaker 7: I think we saw the last time. It is one
- 1:04:47Speaker 7: of these Donnybrook matches right with with Pete Dunnan Seamus,
- 1:04:53Speaker 7: I think, even the exact same thing. So that's kind
- 1:04:55Speaker 7: of why I thought that they might do, you know,
- 1:04:59Speaker 7: one of those big theatrical kind of things where you know,
- 1:05:04Speaker 7: they go off and you know, fly off the stage and.
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: Spark food uppers.
- 1:05:09Speaker 7: You know, I thought I thought we might get something
- 1:05:10Speaker 7: like that, a little more flatty or something, if you will.
- 1:05:15Speaker 7: Uh yeah, the accolade, I think that's a move on
- 1:05:18Speaker 7: top of the barrels of school.
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: As well as him doing it with the still alien
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: his mouth, that.
- 1:05:22Speaker 7: Was pretty pretty pretty uh pretty gnarly, you know, and
- 1:05:27Speaker 7: Shamus doesn't tap out very often. I just don't know
- 1:05:30Speaker 7: what the fuck they're doing with Recess.
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: He needs to be something other than you know, foreign heel.
- 1:05:37Speaker 7: I think, right, it's some kind of other depths to him,
- 1:05:42Speaker 7: and I just don't see where that's gonna come from.
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: Hell.
- 1:05:47Speaker 7: I would he was, he was, the crowd is doing
- 1:05:50Speaker 7: recept great chance, and he was you know, covering his
- 1:05:53Speaker 7: ears or whatever. Fuck, I'd go back to that. I mean,
- 1:05:55Speaker 7: that was market for him and at least that was
- 1:05:58Speaker 7: something unique that that he had. You know, uh, right
- 1:06:02Speaker 7: now he's just you know, he'll foreid heel X really.
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: With nothing special about him. Yeah, that's not a good
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: question out of this is what what we're famous killing
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: war or not shamous? What where's rusup going? What the
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: hell was the point for bringing him back to just have.
- 1:06:23Speaker 7: A social hardcore matter of famous. You know, there needs
- 1:06:27Speaker 7: to be something more. I fairly hope there is.
- 1:06:31Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the problem with this match and this whole
- 1:06:35Speaker 8: feud is yes, the obvious guy won, and probably the
- 1:06:39Speaker 8: right guy won, but now what now you got the
- 1:06:43Speaker 8: problem of now what now?
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: What do you do with them? Yeah?
- 1:06:47Speaker 8: I propose the idea of him going after the Intercontinental
- 1:06:50Speaker 8: Championship and going after DOM. That could create for some
- 1:06:54Speaker 8: interesting dynamics. But that's not the only thing I could
- 1:06:59Speaker 8: think of. But I don't know if they're willing to
- 1:07:00Speaker 8: go that route given what happened on Raw Monday, and
- 1:07:06Speaker 8: the fact that there seems to be, for some dumb reason,
- 1:07:10Speaker 8: some backlash to the fact that aj Styles didn't win
- 1:07:13Speaker 8: the Inner Canals Championship. Fuck people mad for about that?
- 1:07:17Speaker 8: I don't know, but apparently that's the thing. Hum AnyWho,
- 1:07:24Speaker 8: what are your thoughts on the Dolly Brook match?
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: Wayne?
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: Dude, just good old fashioned Donnie Brook match. How many
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: good old fashioned Donny Brook matches have we had?
- 1:07:34Speaker 4: I can't tell for them to be good and old fashioned, good.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: Old fashioned Donnie Brook. Let's see, there's large wooden barrels
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: Irish Brandy, which I didn't see any some chilalies at ringsign.
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: We did have a Seamus Andrew McIntyre had had one
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, the Brawl and Bruce. Oh yeah,
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: Shamus and Pete Dunn uh and Rich Holland versus Imperium.
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: Uh.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, Doyle, wasn't that match in Philadelphia?
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: I believe that was the brawling brutes versus uh Imperium
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: in Abra? Yeah, dude, I believe it was the goo
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: old fashioned donnybrou Yeah that Uh. Let's see here August Yeah, okay,
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: maybe yeah, maybe So that's pretty cool. Uh yeah, so
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: it's to be like the third one we've seen and
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: then god knows how many matches we've seen of these
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: two together. But uh, I enjoyed it, but I wish
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: it was a lot shorter. Don't get me wrong. I
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: enjoyed the French counting as he beats the ballery, so
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: we get the French numbers. So that was that was
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: pretty funny. Uh beaten him with the chalale across the chest.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: I felt that there's a few Kendostick shots that made
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: me cringe. There was a really cool I wish shame
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: is to the bro cake that that connected. Just the
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: timing of it looks so clean, and uh they they
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: played it over again because it was so good where else?
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, I I put when he had him on
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: top of the barrels, stretching him out there, I call
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: it the whiskey stretch.
- 1:09:31Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: You know, such an I conic movement going on, you know,
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: of course, Uh I thought. I thought putting him through
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: the table, though, was pretty cool. I was like, that
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: hurt looks like I hurt him more than they hurt Russive,
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: you know, putting him through that slim gym table. But
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: I agree, J like what do we what do we
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: do with either of these guys after this? Where either
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: of them go?
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:09:57Speaker 4: How much Shame is going to go the same place
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: he's been going for the last couple of years.
- 1:10:01Speaker 12: Nowhere, Yeah, you know, uh yeah as an institution at
- 1:10:07Speaker 12: this point, you know what I mean, they want to
- 1:10:11Speaker 12: heat him up for something they can pretty easily.
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: I just feel like no direction and no no presence,
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: no nothing.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: Really this is this has been his big few since
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: he's been back. This is the big one. I mean,
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: he's on the card. You know, you can't argue that.
- 1:10:34Speaker 4: So it was in Europe?
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, But have we been Is this what
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: we were building up to? Is this what all those
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: matches were for us? Because this is this what we wanted?
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: Well not us, but you know, I don't fly, I
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: guess sure, Okay, now what now what? I don't know?
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: Far too long this would have been like maybe knock
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: all like five minutes of this fucking thing.
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: But this could have been on raw, yeah for sure,
- 1:11:10Speaker 4: like it like.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: It has been the past couple of weeks.
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: Huh huh, yes, that's really yeah, that's another thing.
- 1:11:17Speaker 7: We've seen this, We've seen this match or these two
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: every week for the past couple of weeks. It's just yeah,
- 1:11:23Speaker 7: it's just like another rider.
- 1:11:28Speaker 8: Yeah, that doesn't help it out all either, when they're
- 1:11:30Speaker 8: giving us the same match over and over again, and
- 1:11:33Speaker 8: this time you just throw a stipulation in it to
- 1:11:37Speaker 8: open them up to add more spots in the match,
- 1:11:40Speaker 8: and we didn't get those spots until late in the match.
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: And it didn't give us a j DOM on pay
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: per view. They did it the next night. Yeah, then
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: that could have been the next night.
- 1:11:55Speaker 8: It's right, like a J and down for the IC
- 1:12:00Speaker 8: title could have been on this pl and then they
- 1:12:03Speaker 8: could have saved the other match for Raw exactly because
- 1:12:09Speaker 8: or at the very least, if you're gonna have the
- 1:12:11Speaker 8: aj Don match on Raw, not to jump ahead a
- 1:12:14Speaker 8: little bit, but to jump ahead a little bit, that
- 1:12:16Speaker 8: match could have.
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: Been the fucking main event.
- 1:12:20Speaker 8: It clearly probably should have been based upon the pop
- 1:12:23Speaker 8: that AJ got, Like did they forget about backlash last
- 1:12:27Speaker 8: year when the whole fucking camera was shaking from the
- 1:12:34Speaker 8: people going off for aj styles like, and they thought, yeah,
- 1:12:38Speaker 8: we're just gonna throw that match in the middle of Raw.
- 1:12:42Speaker 8: It'd be fine that I could see people being upset
- 1:12:47Speaker 8: about but not retaining.
- 1:12:50Speaker 4: No, no, get over yourselves. AJ wouldn't win in that
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: shit by damn sure deserved the main event.
- 1:12:58Speaker 8: Like who'ld have thought the down South Georgia boys home
- 1:13:01Speaker 8: court would be Paris, France?
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, yeah?
- 1:13:10Speaker 4: Any other thoughts on the donny Brook match?
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: No, that's pretty good. Uh Shamus once again beating his
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: body to a bloody pulp for us?
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: What do you think would happen if Shamus went away
- 1:13:28Speaker 4: for like six months and came back with a tan yo.
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: Heart?
- 1:13:38Speaker 8: Oh yeah, ain't no way in hell he fucking tan naturally.
- 1:13:43Speaker 8: He fucking around trying to tan naturally and fuck around and.
- 1:13:45Speaker 4: Get skin cancer or some ship. Ain't no way.
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:13:53Speaker 8: Anyhow, moving on, next match was John i'n seen a
- 1:14:01Speaker 8: facing Logan Paul and a match that went on that
- 1:14:07Speaker 8: was the longest match on the card. This match went
- 1:14:11Speaker 8: on for twenty six minutes in twenty seconds, which.
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: I won't say it was.
- 1:14:21Speaker 8: A bad thing, but I don't know it was a
- 1:14:25Speaker 8: great thing either. I don't know that they needed all
- 1:14:27Speaker 8: twenty six minutes. They probably could have shaved off a
- 1:14:30Speaker 8: few themselves.
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: Of course.
- 1:14:33Speaker 8: Saying that then bows the question what the hell match
- 1:14:36Speaker 8: on this card deserved more time because I think all
- 1:14:40Speaker 8: the other I think the Roman matches had an adequate time.
- 1:14:43Speaker 8: Maybe you could put more time into the main event match,
- 1:14:46Speaker 8: but eh, maybe maybe not. The other three matches on
- 1:14:50Speaker 8: the card we already said two or the three of
- 1:14:52Speaker 8: them fuckers had way too much time.
- 1:14:56Speaker 7: So yeah, well, I personally, if if Seen is forced
- 1:15:01Speaker 7: to last match or whatever it is, is five minutes
- 1:15:04Speaker 7: too long, and I don't think that's the end of
- 1:15:06Speaker 7: the world.
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: Yeah, that that is a very valid point. This isn't
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: the tail end, So yeah, let him cook and cook
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: he did.
- 1:15:17Speaker 8: I think him and Logan Paul put on a very
- 1:15:21Speaker 8: good match as John Cena paid homage to his opponents
- 1:15:26Speaker 8: of the past by stealing all of their fucking moves,
- 1:15:31Speaker 8: Like geez, like, how how many moves did he use
- 1:15:34Speaker 8: in this match? I think he saw an end of days. Yeah,
- 1:15:40Speaker 8: I'm not saying it as a bad thing, like, yeah,
- 1:15:44Speaker 8: seeing him at the end of days was cool as
- 1:15:45Speaker 8: ship because lord, when the last time we saw that
- 1:15:48Speaker 8: with one w W television.
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: Yea European.
- 1:15:59Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, John cenas clash on the.
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: Joel's Wing from Chris Daniels. Yeah, you know, seeing John
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: Cena do a Hert Corona is always cool.
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: Mm hm, even Stole Rocks and Perez pop rocks.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and omage to a lot of wrestlers. I mean,
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: I I think I I rather enjoyed this fucking match.
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: You know, if we're gonna get a few more John
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: Cena matches and uh, you know you're gonna give somebody
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: like the logan Paul, then give us a good quality
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: fucking match and that and that's what we got, you know.
- 1:16:35Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I mean let it. Let it all hang out. Yeah,
- 1:16:38Speaker 4: the last couple get fuck it. Yeah, let it all
- 1:16:45Speaker 4: hang out.
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: The entrance with the the just the black background the
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: white letters of John Cena and then they change it
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: to you know, like the face with all the colors,
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: like the crowd just pops. Man. You know, this is
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: what I've been waiting for, Like John c like as
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: a fa you know, towards the end of his career. Man,
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: just enjoying it to the bitter end, you know, having fun.
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: Uh. Well, not only is he enjoying it, the whole
- 1:17:10Speaker 3: crowd is enjoying it, not just.
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: The whole crowd. Yeah, it's great, It's great.
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: I wish you know, of this year, just stupid the hunter. Yeah,
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: I wish it was that's all year. That's what I
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: would have been trying with.
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: That, right, Yeah, that's gonna be that.
- 1:17:31Speaker 8: That's gonna be the never ending debate once Johnson retired,
- 1:17:35Speaker 8: is you know, in retrospect now everybody saying, yes, the
- 1:17:40Speaker 8: heel turn was a mistake, and you know, because we're
- 1:17:43Speaker 8: getting so much good now that man, we could have
- 1:17:46Speaker 8: been getting this all year. We should have been getting
- 1:17:48Speaker 8: this all year. But I think there's an argument to
- 1:17:51Speaker 8: be made that if he had remained at babyface all year,
- 1:17:55Speaker 8: would we have been getting this level, this quality of
- 1:18:00Speaker 8: John Cena all year.
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: I think.
- 1:18:06Speaker 7: We certainly wouldn't have had that awful couple of months
- 1:18:09Speaker 7: to compare it to make it look that much better
- 1:18:11Speaker 7: in comparison.
- 1:18:12Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think we right, and I think it
- 1:18:15Speaker 8: could have It could have been maybe equally as dull
- 1:18:19Speaker 8: towards the middle had he just been a babyface, because
- 1:18:22Speaker 8: what would he have been doing. He would have been
- 1:18:26Speaker 8: contra by contrast, he might have been feuding with Heels
- 1:18:29Speaker 8: and so what we swap out see him punk for
- 1:18:36Speaker 8: Drew McIntyre. Few we swap out Randy Orton for somebody else.
- 1:18:43Speaker 8: So I mean, I think that needs to be taken
- 1:18:46Speaker 8: into consideration as well. Like you know, his his greatest
- 1:18:49Speaker 8: foes are currently all babyfaces, so we've just been getting
- 1:18:55Speaker 8: face on face matches or something, and let's not forget that.
- 1:19:01Speaker 8: Even if the execution afterwards was, you know, left something
- 1:19:05Speaker 8: to be desired, the moment itself of John C and
- 1:19:09Speaker 8: Attorney Hill was still very major and very impactful and
- 1:19:14Speaker 8: had the entire wrestling world talking. So I don't think
- 1:19:21Speaker 8: the moment itself was bad or was a mistake. I
- 1:19:25Speaker 8: just think the execution afterwards is where they fell off.
- 1:19:31Speaker 8: They went for the moment, but they didn't really appear
- 1:19:34Speaker 8: to have a plan afterwards, or the Rock sabotaged the
- 1:19:38Speaker 8: plans afterwards by just chucking up the deuce.
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:19:43Speaker 8: We'll see maybe on Unreal next year or whatever, or
- 1:19:47Speaker 8: some documentary ten years from now where people will feel
- 1:19:50Speaker 8: free to talk about it, but that we shall see.
- 1:19:54Speaker 8: But I think a lot of what's making this so
- 1:19:58Speaker 8: great now is part of maybe Johnson are feeling motivated
- 1:20:03Speaker 8: to make up for lost time during his heel run,
- 1:20:07Speaker 8: and now he's at the tail end, he's just letting
- 1:20:09Speaker 8: it all hang out.
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, that could certainly be.
- 1:20:15Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean this, this was I thought the best
- 1:20:17Speaker 7: John Cena match this year for sure, Bye.
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: By leaps and bounds, and I love that, you know, yeah,
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: I like this a lot better. I'll tell you why.
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:20:35Speaker 7: I liked that they didn't have fucking Logan Paul stupid
- 1:20:38Speaker 7: influencer friends fucking around in there, and they didn't have uh,
- 1:20:43Speaker 7: you know, Kim trying to do some viral.
- 1:20:46Speaker 3: Fucking moment with a throne and a clip or whatever
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: the fuck.
- 1:20:50Speaker 7: Even in real time, I was complaining that Logan Paul
- 1:20:53Speaker 7: was getting in one of John Seeny's last matches. Like
- 1:20:57Speaker 7: you said about the homage thing, I thought that was great,
- 1:21:00Speaker 7: and I thought Logan Paul was actually in the perfect
- 1:21:02Speaker 7: first and kind of do some you know, other moves
- 1:21:07Speaker 7: that you don't always see and because you know, we're
- 1:21:10Speaker 7: not see this match, you know what I mean, And
- 1:21:14Speaker 7: this is maybe the next best thing.
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: It's like a wink and a nod or a homus.
- 1:21:17Speaker 7: Do you remember there was a towards the end of
- 1:21:20Speaker 7: Gunsa's Icy Pat already need a master with a mizz
- 1:21:24Speaker 7: and there was a little bit of back and forth,
- 1:21:26Speaker 7: like I think there was like a lion tamer and
- 1:21:28Speaker 7: there was.
- 1:21:28Speaker 3: A couple of like former Icy Championship moves, and I
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: remember saying, I love that. I wish they had done
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: more of that, And this match is kind of kind
- 1:21:37Speaker 3: of that, which I've been hoping for. Uh So I'm
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: glad they just kind of played It's great. Uh you know,
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: they kind of played the hit teena one.
- 1:21:50Speaker 7: It's choice though, to go go hug the little chubby
- 1:21:53Speaker 7: Belgian kid right and right into a sticking your tongue
- 1:21:57Speaker 7: right down your weight throat right there, a little fads.
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: I thought that one's kind of interesting. Whatever, so he
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: can do whatever he wants. Yeah, I mean, how many
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: more matches is you gonna have? Three? Maybe four?
- 1:22:13Speaker 7: You know, so we're getting down there, and so you know,
- 1:22:16Speaker 7: like I said that, if I've johnt seen them, you know,
- 1:22:19Speaker 7: these last level matches, If John Cena match.
- 1:22:21Speaker 13: Was an extra five or ten minutes, I'm really historic
- 1:22:24Speaker 13: complaint about it, because you.
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: Know, you're just gonna enjoy, you know, love him or
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: hate him or whatever he is.
- 1:22:30Speaker 7: He is one of the best that's ever done it,
- 1:22:34Speaker 7: and I think you should just you know, try to
- 1:22:37Speaker 7: try to breathe it in, you know, while you have
- 1:22:40Speaker 7: the chance.
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: I think we'll miss him when he's gone.
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very very much true.
- 1:22:46Speaker 8: And I think as much as we are, as much
- 1:22:50Speaker 8: as mean we may have been chagrining the fact that
- 1:22:55Speaker 8: one of his last matches is was against Logan Paul,
- 1:23:01Speaker 8: we now have to consider the fact that one of
- 1:23:04Speaker 8: his last matches is going to be with brock Lesnar.
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fully effected brock to interfere.
- 1:23:13Speaker 7: But again, like I said, I'm glad that fucking Logan
- 1:23:15Speaker 7: Paul's little stupid friends didn't interfere. I'm kind of glad
- 1:23:19Speaker 7: that brock lest I didn't either, although storyline wise, it's
- 1:23:24Speaker 7: so like, why the fuck is he there at one time?
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: Uh, don't try to a hanging thread out there. But whatever,
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: they'll pull up whenever they want to. I suppose. Uh,
- 1:23:35Speaker 3: it's advertised for two SmackDown sewing up, so I imagine
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: that's all we'll find out.
- 1:23:42Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think we can all agree John Cena
- 1:23:46Speaker 8: when he came out, that was probably the pop of
- 1:23:48Speaker 8: the night by far.
- 1:23:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
- 1:23:55Speaker 7: People he's always been so polarizing, and I think everybody's
- 1:23:59Speaker 7: so it's like, well, this is the this is it,
- 1:24:01Speaker 7: you know, so let's you know, let's show him the love,
- 1:24:05Speaker 7: as they say, give him as fowls. They were even
- 1:24:09Speaker 7: chanting the supersede at one point during the match. It's
- 1:24:14Speaker 7: like that, you know, that was the big that was
- 1:24:16Speaker 7: the big lament against Sina for so long. Uh and
- 1:24:21Speaker 7: now they're chanting supersede. Well, I just thought it was
- 1:24:23Speaker 7: kind of a cool moment for him.
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: M h. And he seems like such a good dude.
- 1:24:29Speaker 8: Uh, you know, yeah, I think I was surprised by
- 1:24:32Speaker 8: some of the reactions he was getting. It seemed like
- 1:24:37Speaker 8: even surprised him a bit, like just how how big
- 1:24:40Speaker 8: of a pop he got. Yeah, he wasn't there for
- 1:24:42Speaker 8: Backlash last year, so he obviously, you know, didn't get
- 1:24:47Speaker 8: a sampling of how much this French crowd can turn up.
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: Any other thoughts on this match before we move on
- 1:25:00Speaker 4: to the main event.
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: No, I mean, like, I enjoyed this more than I
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: thought I was going to. So yeah, me too, I
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: thought the night Yeah, a lot of people complaining, you know,
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: we're wasting Johnson his matches, you know, No, not after
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: I saw this one, I was really.
- 1:25:18Speaker 3: I went into that thinking that, and I left not
- 1:25:21Speaker 3: thinking that anymore.
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: Yeah, John Johnson entertained, entertained me, him and Logan Paul
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: from belld Bell, So I couldn't ask for more from
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: from uh a fucking YouTuber and a guy who's on
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: his way out peacemaker. I can't complain about the two.
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: They gave me a fucking good match, So no.
- 1:25:41Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, moving on to the final match, Ain't Event
- 1:25:50Speaker 8: Fatal four Wave for the World Heavyweight Championship. Seth Rolins
- 1:25:54Speaker 8: our champion, defending against see Him Punk, Jay Usso and
- 1:26:00Speaker 8: l A Knight.
- 1:26:04Speaker 3: This match in France, it's night, Oh yeah night or
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: chevalier if.
- 1:26:11Speaker 4: You will, La Night we.
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: So in.
- 1:26:23Speaker 8: This match, again was another good match. They had some
- 1:26:28Speaker 8: fairly good storytelling elements in this match. Obviously, everybody jumped
- 1:26:34Speaker 8: on Seth Rollins from the jump and seemed to try
- 1:26:37Speaker 8: to have a united front of all right, let's take
- 1:26:41Speaker 8: out Seth Rollins and then three of us all duke
- 1:26:43Speaker 8: it out, to which ju So very quickly said yeah,
- 1:26:46Speaker 8: fuck that ship and super kicking the fuck out of
- 1:26:49Speaker 8: see Him Punk in the face when they tried to
- 1:26:52Speaker 8: put Seth through the table on the outside and at
- 1:26:56Speaker 8: multiple points in the match when it seemed like they
- 1:27:00Speaker 8: were going to do one thing, Jay was like, nope,
- 1:27:02Speaker 8: it's about me. I'm taking all y'all out. I'm not
- 1:27:04Speaker 8: missing or not about him. But he wasn't letting any
- 1:27:09Speaker 8: moments go to waste. Rather, and kudos to him, I
- 1:27:16Speaker 8: mean I would appreciate a more serious Jay Usso, yes,
- 1:27:21Speaker 8: the yeaton and all that stuff is fun, but he
- 1:27:24Speaker 8: needed to be able to get down to business when
- 1:27:26Speaker 8: it's time to get down to business. I think that's
- 1:27:28Speaker 8: part of his hopefully will be part of his growth
- 1:27:31Speaker 8: and his evolution as a singles competitor.
- 1:27:37Speaker 4: And obviously Punk Knight.
- 1:27:39Speaker 8: They did their thing, but ultimately Seth Rollins came out
- 1:27:43Speaker 8: on top because he had a plan. Despite the fact
- 1:27:51Speaker 8: that Bronson, Reed and Braun were kicked out of the
- 1:27:56Speaker 8: building by Adam Pierce, despite the fact that Paul Hayman
- 1:28:01Speaker 8: was laid up in the hospital after being choked out,
- 1:28:05Speaker 8: Seth Rollins had somebody who.
- 1:28:08Speaker 4: Would have his back.
- 1:28:10Speaker 8: He had a fourth man, and that fourth man was
- 1:28:15Speaker 8: the man in the form of Becky Lynch, who nutshot
- 1:28:20Speaker 8: to see him Punk when he thought he had the moment,
- 1:28:24Speaker 8: allowing Seth Rollins to pick up the pen and retain
- 1:28:28Speaker 8: the World Heavyweight Championship, and props to them, because I
- 1:28:33Speaker 8: don't think anybody had Becky Lynch pegged as the fourth Man,
- 1:28:39Speaker 8: Assuming that she's moving forward, she's being a part of
- 1:28:41Speaker 8: this faction, and that this isn't just a temporary thing
- 1:28:44Speaker 8: to set up something else, I would like I would
- 1:28:47Speaker 8: like her to remain a part of this faction. Honestly,
- 1:28:51Speaker 8: I don't want this just to be a temporary thing.
- 1:28:55Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think we had about half a
- 1:28:57Speaker 7: dozen guests that he used to hoot a fourth man
- 1:28:59Speaker 7: with hind Man and not one of those.
- 1:29:03Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
- 1:29:06Speaker 8: Now that does made me just you know, thinking off
- 1:29:09Speaker 8: the top of my head, wonder. I don't think I
- 1:29:12Speaker 8: want this faction to get too big, but it would
- 1:29:15Speaker 8: be rather interesting if Becky Lynch now got her own
- 1:29:21Speaker 8: bron breaker and uh Bronson Reid on her end, and
- 1:29:28Speaker 8: then we have Seth and Becky at the top and
- 1:29:31Speaker 8: that you know, he has his vision and her vision
- 1:29:34Speaker 8: and collectively they are the vision. Might be too much, maybe,
- 1:29:39Speaker 8: but it could be interesting, could be interesting, just throwing
- 1:29:43Speaker 8: it out there. Wayne, what are your thoughts on this match.
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: Oh man, dude, this match was awesome. The you know,
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: immediately soon as that bell rang, the beat down on
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: Seth rawlins, you know, like immediately, why not, right, this
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: guy's been the cause of all this trouble. Uh so
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: they immediately turned on him. But the alliance didn't stay.
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: You know, it was not too long because you know,
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: Punk and l A. Knight have been beefing with each other,
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: and you know, Jayuso has been told by even Roman
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: not to trust anybody in this match, and he didn't.
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: He started super kicking on left and right once they
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: tried to start up set up the table. There's a
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: bad table spot with Punk, you know, getting pushed out
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: the ring by l A. Knight going through the table.
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: He kind of like went through the table, the table
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: kind of broke, then he slid off the table. It
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: was a bad table spot, and I think it doesn't
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: I think La puts himself through a table. I believe, Yeah,
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: he puts himself through one of the announced tables. I
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: believe he tried to elbow drop in. Nobody was home.
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: I did like the spot we were going to get
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: when we were getting these curb stomps. Seth was putting
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: Seampunk's head in a steel chair. I was gonna curb
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: stomp him. I thought that was a new interesting way
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: to curb stomp somebody putting their head through the steel chair. Yeah, dude,
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: And once again we get close Punk's giving him to
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: go to sleep. The camera angles all right there, it's perfect.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: We get that person in the black hoodie. You know,
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: for the longest time, I I I was always thinking like, yoh,
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: maybe cool if Becky was with Seth, right, but I
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: thought like they would never pull the trigger because it's
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: like a too obvious of a of a of a
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: thing to do. And once you know Becky was full
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: on heel with the icy title, I was like, oh,
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: this would be perfect. You know, they're both heels, they
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: both have gold Like.
- 1:31:50Speaker 3: Why not.
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know, why not? Because we're gonna
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: talk about it after this. But you know, with a
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: few going forward, I mean, these titles are gonna be
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: on the line. I assume going forward, both of them
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: are in jeopardy. But you know, Seth wiggling his way
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: out here at a fatal four way. I think we
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: all saw this coming. But I you phrase it perfectly, Dre.
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: It's like you know, everybody's wondering who was the man,
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: you know, who is the fourth man? And the fourth
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: man was the man that is fucking perfect? And you know,
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: I'll get into Monday Night Raw after this, Doyle, what
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: did you think of the match?
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: I liked it a lot. I didn't love it though.
- 1:32:40Speaker 7: It had a little too much two guys in the
- 1:32:44Speaker 7: ring and two guys outside formula for my liking. I
- 1:32:49Speaker 7: wish they had kind of kind of a way to
- 1:32:51Speaker 7: mix it up a little more. You know, who really
- 1:32:55Speaker 7: said out to me? Who I have had a lot
- 1:32:58Speaker 7: of not so great things should say about. Uh? But
- 1:33:02Speaker 7: was uh the night he he looked like he belonged
- 1:33:06Speaker 7: in there with three bert and or former world champions
- 1:33:10Speaker 7: being the.
- 1:33:11Speaker 3: Only one that isn't or wasn't. But he didn't look
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: at a place at all. I still just don't quite
- 1:33:18Speaker 3: see him ever as winning a world title. But he
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: looked a lot less out of place that I kind
- 1:33:25Speaker 3: of expected him to look. And yeah, I mean the storyline,
- 1:33:30Speaker 3: uh wise, you know everything.
- 1:33:34Speaker 7: I think we all were, you know, like I said,
- 1:33:35Speaker 7: were all expected once once Breaker and once Brawn and
- 1:33:39Speaker 7: Braun Incorporated got banned from the building. Obviously, there's somebody
- 1:33:43Speaker 7: else that's coming. Uh, but none of us thought it
- 1:33:46Speaker 7: was not gonna be back you, So, you know, coganes
- 1:33:49Speaker 7: to them for.
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: You know, we don't get very many.
- 1:33:52Speaker 7: Sur practice, especially if you read the dirty like I
- 1:33:56Speaker 7: do by jamming them into my eyes.
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: So you're not surprised too often. Terms likes to be
- 1:34:03Speaker 3: kind of surprised.
- 1:34:04Speaker 7: It's funny, Uh, you know, you see the figure in black,
- 1:34:08Speaker 7: and I kind of did the Okay, here's the fourth person.
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: Oh it's a woman. That's a woman.
- 1:34:13Speaker 7: It has to be Becky and it's Becky. Like just
- 1:34:17Speaker 7: the mental techlist. I kind of went there as it
- 1:34:20Speaker 7: was all happening. Obviously, in a minute, we'll talk about
- 1:34:25Speaker 7: going forward. But I thought of like the idea I
- 1:34:29Speaker 7: had never sawn Beechy having her own side in the envision.
- 1:34:32Speaker 3: That's that's kind of a good idea, I thought.
- 1:34:35Speaker 7: And I think because Seth and Becky will be tied
- 1:34:37Speaker 7: up with something for at least the next couple of weeks,
- 1:34:40Speaker 7: it kind of gives Ron Braun Incorporated and Paul Hayman
- 1:34:45Speaker 7: a little more time to kind of be a trio
- 1:34:48Speaker 7: almost kind of as they were in sets absence while.
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: He was taking the knee injury.
- 1:34:55Speaker 7: I think just a couple of weeks, I did wonders
- 1:34:58Speaker 7: for both Throwns, especially you know, being with him, and
- 1:35:02Speaker 7: just as the whole air of credibility that.
- 1:35:05Speaker 3: You can't really recreate otherwise, you know.
- 1:35:10Speaker 13: So I kind of like the idea of having that
- 1:35:13Speaker 13: half of the vision and then really at the end
- 1:35:15Speaker 13: of the day, the whole point is to elevate the
- 1:35:18Speaker 13: two Bronze I think, so I.
- 1:35:21Speaker 7: Kind of like having them off doing their own thing,
- 1:35:24Speaker 7: while Seth and Becky are kind of off doing their
- 1:35:26Speaker 7: own thing. I don't know if Becky stays in the
- 1:35:31Speaker 7: group or not. I guess that will remain to be seen.
- 1:35:34Speaker 7: I can't say him make a cast for either either
- 1:35:38Speaker 7: her saying or either her going. I don't think that
- 1:35:41Speaker 7: the storyline we're respecting the result from Becky's interparent here
- 1:35:46Speaker 7: is going to be a particularly long one.
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: But I guess you'd get into that now if you want.
- 1:35:54Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean, if we're if we're done with
- 1:35:57Speaker 8: the the PLI itself, sure, I think we can move
- 1:36:02Speaker 8: on into the aftermath and were followed up on Monday
- 1:36:08Speaker 8: Night Raw. Just to touch on your point about Ron
- 1:36:11Speaker 8: and bron and Bronson uh together. Yeah, I think them
- 1:36:16Speaker 8: two clearly work good as you know, the being by themselves.
- 1:36:21Speaker 8: I wonder if they're gonna give them a few weeks
- 1:36:23Speaker 8: without Paul Hayman, because as they've mentioned Monday, you know,
- 1:36:26Speaker 8: they're now yeah, yeah, they're two now two dogs off
- 1:36:30Speaker 8: the leash. There's no Paul Hayman to hold them back.
- 1:36:35Speaker 8: Collins is, you know, preoccupied with.
- 1:36:38Speaker 4: His problem with.
- 1:36:39Speaker 7: Pun Okay, that's that's not a bad idea. See, I'm
- 1:36:43Speaker 7: just looking at like Haman, but the dogs are off
- 1:36:47Speaker 7: the leash thing. If they ran with that, that might
- 1:36:49Speaker 7: be fun.
- 1:36:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:36:51Speaker 8: And and they just basically while he's steths preoccupied, they're
- 1:36:54Speaker 8: just running rough shot over everything in sight and just
- 1:36:57Speaker 8: completely unhinged given you know, Adam Pierce heart attacks every week,
- 1:37:03Speaker 8: just fucking up everything in sight. That could make very
- 1:37:06Speaker 8: that could make it very compelling and keep them to
- 1:37:08Speaker 8: looking strong while not being you know, handcuffed to Paul
- 1:37:13Speaker 8: Hayman or Seth Rollins.
- 1:37:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:37:17Speaker 14: I mean, I just feel like the problem is if
- 1:37:19Speaker 14: you keep them with behind Seth and then you add
- 1:37:21Speaker 14: Becky to that, it's just they're just I feel like
- 1:37:25Speaker 14: they're just showing so much brighter than they do, you.
- 1:37:29Speaker 7: Know, not necessarily through any faults of their own, perhaps,
- 1:37:32Speaker 7: but I feel like they would just you know, feeling
- 1:37:37Speaker 7: back of a hard time catching up, you know, just
- 1:37:41Speaker 7: by the sheer magnitude of Seth and Becky together bring
- 1:37:45Speaker 7: it in like a more texts of heat.
- 1:37:49Speaker 3: Hard to kind of stand in the shadow.
- 1:37:53Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:37:54Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a valid point if it was just them too,
- 1:37:58Speaker 8: with Seth and Becky at the top. That's why I
- 1:38:03Speaker 8: kind of think maybe if Becky had her own half
- 1:38:06Speaker 8: to kind of you know, pull her attention, draw some
- 1:38:09Speaker 8: of her attention towards that as well, that could maybe
- 1:38:11Speaker 8: help balance the two of them out. So the way
- 1:38:15Speaker 8: she's not just there in Seth's circle or in Seth
- 1:38:20Speaker 8: or and it's not just those two together all the time.
- 1:38:23Speaker 8: They kind of each have their own thing that they're
- 1:38:25Speaker 8: managing while also being the power couple together again. And
- 1:38:30Speaker 8: there's the risk of obviously the faction itself being too big,
- 1:38:33Speaker 8: with having what would be basically six members plus Paul Hayman,
- 1:38:40Speaker 8: that could be you know too much. Many fact, not
- 1:38:44Speaker 8: to many factions work with that many members in it.
- 1:38:47Speaker 4: But I think.
- 1:38:51Speaker 7: One point they had about thirty people in the right
- 1:38:55Speaker 7: nWo had half the roster at full point ridiculous.
- 1:38:59Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, so, I mean it would have to be
- 1:39:02Speaker 8: done obviously with care, but with a certain level of restraint.
- 1:39:05Speaker 8: But I think if balanced out properly and being split
- 1:39:09Speaker 8: obviously with the men and women's division, there's potential there
- 1:39:14Speaker 8: for it to work.
- 1:39:15Speaker 4: It would just be a question of you know, which
- 1:39:18Speaker 4: women do you call up to do it?
- 1:39:21Speaker 8: And my guess is it would probably have to come
- 1:39:22Speaker 8: from NXT because I don't know that there's anybody on
- 1:39:26Speaker 8: the main roster. Of course, the other problem is that
- 1:39:29Speaker 8: all the women on the main roster seem to be
- 1:39:31Speaker 8: all tied up in their own feuds as well. So
- 1:39:36Speaker 8: what would these potential to women do? Would they just
- 1:39:40Speaker 8: insert themselves and everybody else's beef? You just go around
- 1:39:43Speaker 8: beating shit out of folks at random.
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: M I don't know.
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get you know, Becky and
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: her own group, I don't think so. I just I'm
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: on the boat of her came of seth uh yeah,
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: uh yeah. Let's get into what happened on role here
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: because a lot of people were I guess the main
- 1:40:11Speaker 1: thing we were all curious to know about is what
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: where is this punk? Seth Rollins angle going? Well, Seampunk
- 1:40:19Speaker 1: came the ring called out Seth Rollins, but instead he
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: got Becky Lynch, which was brilliant. Becky coming out Seth's music, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: She was mocking the crowd because they were chanting for
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: a j Lee, you know, giving into the crowd, acknowledging her,
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: you know, saying, you know, she doesn't work here anymore.
- 1:40:42Speaker 4: Work here.
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she ripped into seeing Punk for attacking
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: her husband repeatedly, you know, calling him, you know, amazing,
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: he's he's sexy and what else do you say, like
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: he's better looking than you and everything?
- 1:41:01Speaker 3: Uh uh, she called, well, it's always it's always my
- 1:41:07Speaker 3: hot husband.
- 1:41:07Speaker 7: But I enjoyed her in Europe when she sat American husband.
- 1:41:11Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's a little thing.
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: You know, basically saying everything, you know, he's everything Punk
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: will never be. And the Visionary then eventually came out
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: and told Punk that he said that he has to
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: say to his face, but uh uh, you know Becky
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: Lynch standing in the way. Yeah, Becky wouldn't let him
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: man like, you know, Seth send his woman out because
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: he got nothing left and got his boys are off
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: the least. You know, Paul Hayman's in the hospital with
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: Roman Reigns. It's you know, uh, he had to get
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: he had to get the man, and she decided to
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: put her hands on him and like good old fat
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: and like Stephan mcman slaps, you know, like slapping the
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: ship out of punk.
- 1:42:05Speaker 8: At one point it was damn near three stood just slapping.
- 1:42:07Speaker 8: At one point, she was just doing it just antagonis.
- 1:42:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was motor boat, you.
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: Know, telling her basically like you know, you you know,
- 1:42:20Speaker 1: your husband made a big mistake by cashing in on me,
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: and I'm going to make sure he pays for that.
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: And you know he said that he's going to make
- 1:42:27Speaker 1: sure that she pays for that.
- 1:42:30Speaker 4: You know, you know she never her hands on me.
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what before when Raw first, Yeah,
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: when Raw kicked off, we saw, Yeah, that was.
- 1:42:44Speaker 8: A weird thing too, Like people are acting like, oh
- 1:42:46Speaker 8: my god, why did he put it? He didn't do
- 1:42:47Speaker 8: anything to her. This whole thing is stupid. W W
- 1:42:50Speaker 8: can't hit women. And yeah, I'm like, yeah, I get
- 1:42:55Speaker 8: it to a certain extent, but that's where we're at
- 1:42:58Speaker 8: right now, and obviously there's a big your story at play.
- 1:43:01Speaker 8: I don't think WWE is opposed to men, you know,
- 1:43:06Speaker 8: hitting a move here and there on a woman. Yeah,
- 1:43:09Speaker 8: I mean, are we going to go back to the
- 1:43:11Speaker 8: days of the Dudley's putting women through the table every week?
- 1:43:14Speaker 4: Probably not, Yeah, but there's somewhere between.
- 1:43:17Speaker 8: There's some space between Dudley's putting Grandma to a table
- 1:43:23Speaker 8: and you know, Barry Corbyn hitting the End of Days
- 1:43:28Speaker 8: on Becky Lynch.
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Fair. That was June twenty nineteen, was
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: when the last time we saw a good mixed gender match.
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: In the beginning of the raw, they had Punk guarding.
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: You know, I guess Punk things there's only one way
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: into the fucking arena.
- 1:43:47Speaker 3: So.
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: Waiting for Punk, waiting for Seth Rollins to come in,
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: and then he finds out that he was already there.
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: Apparently there's another tour. Yeah, I think he was. They
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: were they better not do it, But it looked like
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: he was hinting like maybe Rha would be the person
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: he's going to go.
- 1:44:10Speaker 7: To to get I think they're gonna tease Rea, you know,
- 1:44:15Speaker 7: like similar well similar to like I think it might
- 1:44:21Speaker 7: have been the first raw on Netflix when everyone and
- 1:44:24Speaker 7: their mother knew.
- 1:44:26Speaker 3: That Rock was going to be there.
- 1:44:29Speaker 7: Tweeted out, they tweeted out, Hey, everybody, a former world champion.
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: Is gonna be on Raw tonight.
- 1:44:35Speaker 7: And then Row comes and they said, here's the former
- 1:44:37Speaker 7: world Tampy and then out comes Tender.
- 1:44:39Speaker 3: You know, I think I think it's everyone in their
- 1:44:43Speaker 3: mother know it's going to be a Lee.
- 1:44:46Speaker 4: Think I remembering that that wasn't the first raw on Netflix.
- 1:44:51Speaker 4: That was the was it Day one or whatever that
- 1:44:56Speaker 4: they did the raw? Yeah it was. It was the
- 1:44:59Speaker 4: first all of the year, I believe, but it wasn't
- 1:45:03Speaker 4: last year.
- 1:45:05Speaker 7: I feel like when the when something is is everyone knows,
- 1:45:09Speaker 7: you know, Like I feel like they will try to
- 1:45:11Speaker 7: swear about somehow, even if it's the announced Ria is
- 1:45:15Speaker 7: the partner, and then she gets taken out, you know,
- 1:45:19Speaker 7: at the last second, and Funk's like, hold on, I'm
- 1:45:21Speaker 7: gonna make a phone call, you.
- 1:45:22Speaker 3: Know or whatever.
- 1:45:24Speaker 7: Uh, it wouldn't surprise me. But of course it's absolutely
- 1:45:26Speaker 7: one hundred percent going to be a jay Lee.
- 1:45:29Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: And I love a good mixed time. But I'll say.
- 1:45:34Speaker 7: Mickey Bella is she's not that great in her in
- 1:45:37Speaker 7: her prime and that was ten years ago, and she
- 1:45:40Speaker 7: hasn't wrestled in and she also has I think the
- 1:45:43Speaker 7: bad next too, and it's just like, why are we
- 1:45:46Speaker 7: bringing it?
- 1:45:47Speaker 3: Like, you know, I hope she performs great. I hope
- 1:45:49Speaker 3: everything goes great.
- 1:45:50Speaker 7: But I just feel like it's setting his tough up
- 1:45:53Speaker 7: for failure by throwing somebody that hasn't been out there.
- 1:45:56Speaker 3: And wasn't that great. They were great supposedly.
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:46:02Speaker 3: It just seems agressive people for disaster. I think.
- 1:46:07Speaker 8: There's valid concern there, But I will say to her credit, One,
- 1:46:13Speaker 8: even if aj Lee isn't on the level of today's
- 1:46:17Speaker 8: women's wrestlers, she's better than Nikki Bella.
- 1:46:21Speaker 3: Well. Yeah.
- 1:46:22Speaker 8: Two, I think aj Lee has been putting She has
- 1:46:28Speaker 8: the advantage of being married to an active wrestler, so
- 1:46:31Speaker 8: she's been probably been putting some ring time in and
- 1:46:34Speaker 8: some quality ring time into it the very least shake
- 1:46:37Speaker 8: off some rust. I think there's even some footage out
- 1:46:39Speaker 8: there of them practicing in the ring together. Also, aj
- 1:46:47Speaker 8: did do has she has kind of shaken a little
- 1:46:51Speaker 8: bit of the rust off because she did some work
- 1:46:53Speaker 8: I think in Heels season two, The Steven.
- 1:46:57Speaker 7: Emel Show that that's the footage you're referring to, have
- 1:47:00Speaker 7: them working out was done training for that Stow?
- 1:47:03Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean she's been shaking some rust off.
- 1:47:05Speaker 4: It was that was she was? She wasn't it something
- 1:47:08Speaker 4: else she did. She wasn't in the the rest of
- 1:47:12Speaker 4: the movie.
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: I don't think she could. I think she was an
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: announcer or something like.
- 1:47:18Speaker 4: That in the movie that came out earlier this year.
- 1:47:21Speaker 3: Right, was she in the I don't think she was
- 1:47:25Speaker 3: in the Queen of the Ring Queen.
- 1:47:27Speaker 4: That's that's that. That's the one. Yeah, I was trying
- 1:47:28Speaker 4: to think of she was involved in that and I
- 1:47:29Speaker 4: can't remember.
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think.
- 1:47:31Speaker 3: I don't recall her being involved in that, But that
- 1:47:33Speaker 3: doesn't mean she wasn't.
- 1:47:34Speaker 4: Okay, But yeah, she was definitely involved in the Heel
- 1:47:36Speaker 4: season two. So there's again, is she gonna come out
- 1:47:41Speaker 4: there and look like EO Sky?
- 1:47:42Speaker 3: No?
- 1:47:43Speaker 8: But I think there's at least some reason for optimism
- 1:47:47Speaker 8: that she can come out there and look reasonably competent, right,
- 1:47:52Speaker 8: and at the very least looked better than Nicky Bella did.
- 1:47:56Speaker 7: I think I think we thrown this fantasy match out before,
- 1:48:02Speaker 7: you know, like I wouldn't be cool to say that,
- 1:48:04Speaker 7: so it's kind of funny that actually now would do it.
- 1:48:08Speaker 4: Yeah, and the pop is going to be massiveinate that.
- 1:48:15Speaker 7: I get the shackdowns in Chicago, But like, I feel
- 1:48:18Speaker 7: like giving us a j lee immediately will be too soon.
- 1:48:21Speaker 3: I think they need to milk it more. That's why
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: I want them to tell us it's gonna be.
- 1:48:24Speaker 7: Ria, or strongly hint that it's gonna be Ria, and
- 1:48:28Speaker 7: then Fainton frets and it's not real.
- 1:48:30Speaker 8: It's really a problem is Ria is currently tied up
- 1:48:33Speaker 8: in something, so it doesn't it wouldn't make much sense
- 1:48:35Speaker 8: to pull her out of her thing with Oscar and
- 1:48:39Speaker 8: EO and them just to go, you know, lend a
- 1:48:42Speaker 8: hand in the punk. I feel maybe as much as much.
- 1:48:47Speaker 8: And and you're you're absolutely right. When it seems super obvious,
- 1:48:51Speaker 8: they try do try to find some way to swerve us.
- 1:48:54Speaker 8: I just I almost kind of wonder from my is
- 1:48:58Speaker 8: it so obvious? Is that anything any attempt to swerve
- 1:49:03Speaker 8: could go the wrong way for the person that they
- 1:49:06Speaker 8: try to swerve us with, Like I think somebody floated
- 1:49:09Speaker 8: the idea, or if they go with Page instead of
- 1:49:12Speaker 8: AJ And.
- 1:49:14Speaker 4: I'm like, that would go very bad for Page. Yeah.
- 1:49:19Speaker 8: Yeah, But if Paige is gonna come back to the
- 1:49:21Speaker 8: WWE let her come back on her own terms of
- 1:49:24Speaker 8: being its own thing. If she is used as a
- 1:49:27Speaker 8: swerve for aj Lee, oh, that will go all kinds
- 1:49:31Speaker 8: of bad for her. Fans will turn on her quick.
- 1:49:36Speaker 8: That will not be a pot that she gets what
- 1:49:38Speaker 8: her music. It will be a fucking boy, especially in Chicago,
- 1:49:45Speaker 8: sh at her. And then that would in turn ruin
- 1:49:48Speaker 8: the moment when we finally do get Paige, because you've
- 1:49:51Speaker 8: pissed off the fans and then it's now you're trying
- 1:49:54Speaker 8: to win back angry fans.
- 1:49:57Speaker 3: See.
- 1:49:57Speaker 7: That's why I like that role, because I feel she's bulletproof. Well,
- 1:50:02Speaker 7: I think I don't think she would have and I
- 1:50:04Speaker 7: don't think the fans would.
- 1:50:05Speaker 3: Be pissed off. Uh, And I think you're absolutely right
- 1:50:09Speaker 3: that they wouldn't be if it was say a Page
- 1:50:12Speaker 3: or something like that. I don't think. I think. I
- 1:50:16Speaker 3: don't think Ritt could do anything.
- 1:50:18Speaker 7: I think Ya could go out and take a shit
- 1:50:20Speaker 7: in the ring and everyone would cheer wildly.
- 1:50:24Speaker 3: Like I think she is is bulletproof right now.
- 1:50:28Speaker 4: Oh, you ain't got to tell me twice.
- 1:50:30Speaker 8: I've been on the you know, talking about you know,
- 1:50:33Speaker 8: her blind the blind loyalty that she has from the fans.
- 1:50:36Speaker 8: Right now, I even think a moment like this, though,
- 1:50:39Speaker 8: could potentially be a test of it. You would probably
- 1:50:41Speaker 8: still get a pop, yes, but it'd be a Yeah,
- 1:50:47Speaker 8: it'd be a bit of a disappointing Hey Rea, glad
- 1:50:52Speaker 8: to see, but you know who want wanted to see.
- 1:50:55Speaker 8: But okay, I think it'd be a pop, But I
- 1:50:58Speaker 8: don't know how. I don't know if it would as
- 1:51:00Speaker 8: enthusiastic of a pop, because again, the fans in this
- 1:51:05Speaker 8: moment very clearly want one thing, and I think to
- 1:51:10Speaker 8: give them anything, even rear ripley, but anything short of
- 1:51:15Speaker 8: that one thing.
- 1:51:17Speaker 4: Is dangerous.
- 1:51:18Speaker 7: Clear I think they are going to give them that,
- 1:51:20Speaker 7: saying just I don't you just don't think they should
- 1:51:23Speaker 7: give it to them immediately. I think they should make
- 1:51:25Speaker 7: you wait for it a little bit, make your salivate
- 1:51:28Speaker 7: a little bit, you.
- 1:51:29Speaker 4: Know, if you're gonna make it.
- 1:51:31Speaker 7: If you're going from from there's no possibility whatsoever of
- 1:51:34Speaker 7: a j Lee ever wrestling again to a j Lee
- 1:51:37Speaker 7: is back in under a week.
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: I think that's too bad.
- 1:51:43Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're if you're not going to give us
- 1:51:45Speaker 4: AJ in Chicago, don't give us anything.
- 1:51:50Speaker 8: Tease it, but don't don't. My thing would be, don't
- 1:51:53Speaker 8: throw out a substitute, don't pump fake us if you
- 1:51:58Speaker 8: either give us a J or tease AJ in some way,
- 1:52:03Speaker 8: shape or form.
- 1:52:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, maybe he says like.
- 1:52:07Speaker 7: I got somebody in mind, but we're gonna fill on
- 1:52:09Speaker 7: the paperwork first, or something somethingthing that just dragging along
- 1:52:12Speaker 7: a little bit.
- 1:52:13Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what type of.
- 1:52:16Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know what type of symbolism you could
- 1:52:18Speaker 8: use to represent a j Lee or anything like that, But.
- 1:52:24Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:52:26Speaker 8: Maybe he says, maybe he uses her lot what was
- 1:52:29Speaker 8: her interesting? Lighted up or something like that, Yeah, light up.
- 1:52:32Speaker 8: Maybe maybe he gives a tease like that, like I
- 1:52:34Speaker 8: got somebody in mind and when she come best belief,
- 1:52:38Speaker 8: we're gonna light it up, or something like that.
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: Maybe like that he made a mistake on Raw when
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: he asked, like, where's all gonna be SmackDown? He's like,
- 1:52:47Speaker 1: we're smackedown, gonna be next week Like Chicago, he should
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: be like, good, light it up.
- 1:52:53Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree that was way too heavy handed by
- 1:52:56Speaker 8: doing that. I think they should have They should reversed it.
- 1:53:00Speaker 8: They should have had AJ. I mean, they should have
- 1:53:03Speaker 8: had Seth and Becky say that they were going to
- 1:53:06Speaker 8: show up in Chicago and then let everybody be hyped
- 1:53:10Speaker 8: and anticipation of Punk showing up as well, and then.
- 1:53:14Speaker 4: We could, you know, speculate about AJ or something like that.
- 1:53:20Speaker 8: But the fact that they went with you know, Punk
- 1:53:23Speaker 8: first being the one who appear in Chicago for one,
- 1:53:27Speaker 8: why that's the first thing, Like, it doesn't make On
- 1:53:32Speaker 8: the first hand, it doesn't make much sense for him
- 1:53:34Speaker 8: to appear in Chicago other than for any reason other
- 1:53:37Speaker 8: than the fact that it's in Chicago. So is he
- 1:53:40Speaker 8: just gonna come up in Chicago just to cut a promo?
- 1:53:44Speaker 8: Like I On the one hand, I don't like that
- 1:53:47Speaker 8: because that's taking time away from SmackDown talent who should
- 1:53:52Speaker 8: be getting at their time on that show. But it
- 1:53:55Speaker 8: said somebody's going to lose out on a time or
- 1:53:58Speaker 8: lose out on a segment just so this raw guy
- 1:54:00Speaker 8: can come out and cut a promo and he's about
- 1:54:04Speaker 8: his wife that again, like that I don't like.
- 1:54:08Speaker 4: I think it would have been better if they would
- 1:54:10Speaker 4: have gone with Seth Rollins is gonna appear in Chicago.
- 1:54:15Speaker 8: There would be justifiable reason for it because right now
- 1:54:17Speaker 8: he's the only active champ really appearing on TV regularly
- 1:54:20Speaker 8: because our WW champion is somewhere Sonic booming a person
- 1:54:24Speaker 8: in the face.
- 1:54:26Speaker 4: So for all intentsive purposes, Seth.
- 1:54:30Speaker 8: Is the top guy right now as the champ, So
- 1:54:32Speaker 8: if he pulls double duty on both shows for a
- 1:54:35Speaker 8: few weeks, it makes sense. So they could have gone
- 1:54:39Speaker 8: that route first, and Becky, you know, tags along with
- 1:54:42Speaker 8: him because she's his wife, and then you get to
- 1:54:46Speaker 8: the punk showing up and then to the aj Lee
- 1:54:49Speaker 8: joining him as well.
- 1:54:51Speaker 4: I think that would have been a better route to go.
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
- 1:54:58Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what they do.
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: Say what they do, man, I'm pretty excited. Sucks is
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: being waste on a SmackDown, but whatever.
- 1:55:09Speaker 8: Yeah, it sucks that it's gonna be the SmackDown before
- 1:55:12Speaker 8: the spackdown that they come to us because this is
- 1:55:15Speaker 8: gonna be a big high in Chicago. Does that mean
- 1:55:17Speaker 8: the following spackdown is gonna be a letdown? I would
- 1:55:21Speaker 8: hope not, considering they you know, they got this whole
- 1:55:23Speaker 8: rescl bal loser thing they got to build up in
- 1:55:25Speaker 8: three weeks which means they got Chicago, Norfolk and whoever
- 1:55:29Speaker 8: the fuck is after us. I think they would have
- 1:55:35Speaker 8: to kind of bring it for all these shows to
- 1:55:37Speaker 8: build up this thing.
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