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BONUS: The Podcast About Podcasts – Featuring Talking In Ovals · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  It's bonus time. Here we go.
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  This month in February of 2025, we are doing a podcast about
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  podcast. We want to introduce you to
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  other track and field themed podcasts that are out there that
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  might be great for your listening pleasure.
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  So all month we're introducing a new podcast each and every day,
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  showing you who they are, what they are, how they are, why they
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  got started and even their favorite episodes and most
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  popular. And hopefully this adds to your
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  podcast listening library. So here we go.
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  Let's get started with today's podcast about podcast.
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  Let's hop right into today's podcast about podcast.
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  And why don't you start with introducing yourself maybe a
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  32nd version of what you do in this great sport of ours.
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  And what's the name of the podcast that we're talking about
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  today? Sure.
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  My name is David Hyde. I'm from the wonderful state of
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  New Jersey and our podcast is called Talking in Ovals.
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  And we like to just try to branch out and get love for
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  every athlete in the sport, whether they're Noah Lyles or
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  one of your, you know, fringe pro runners.
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  And we want everyone to be able to have this sport to be their
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  main profession and to make a living off of that.
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  Plus, we delve into a lot to the high school and college realm,
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  especially here in the state of New Jersey.
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  We like to give high school kids their flowers for doing all the
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  wonderful things that they do. Yeah, great state for Trek and
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  Field, but I love that. What kind of style is this
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  podcast? Is it a solo podcast?
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  Do you have a partner? Do you interview style?
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  Tell us a little bit what we can expect when we listen.
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  Sure. It's definitely interview style.
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  It's myself and my partner, Alex Cuesta.
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  We do it remotely and you know, we we have a guest every
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  weekend. We don't dive a lot into the
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  times or the Marks and that purse runs.
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  We like to delve into their story and how they got to where
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  they are and you know how they are.
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  First question that we ask every week is what what is the spark
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  that got you into this sport? So we like to go through
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  everyone's journey and hear those stories because that can
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  really relate well with fans who might be going through something
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  similar. So they can kind of relate and
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  understand exactly what it's like to be an athlete of that
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  caliber or even a high school athlete who's just trying to
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  find their way in this sport. Very cool, very cool.
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  And what is our knowing that there's, you know, a minute, a
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  Max on on everything, but what's the average length of each
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  episode? We try to keep it around an hour
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  depending on our guests, like if we have on a journalist from New
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  Jersey, like a Jim Lambert, because that's kind of our, our
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  main state now. You know, we just had him on
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  this past Monday. It was like an hour 45.
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  It it all depends on where the guest is comfortable and we do
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  record Monday nights, 9:00. So you know, me being a teacher
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  as well, We also have to kind of find time that that works for
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  everyone involved. There are times where we have to
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  move it to different days. We just try to try to
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  accommodate our our guests and fans the best that we can while
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  not putting ourselves in a spot where it interferes with
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  something that we have to get done to.
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  I love that. Thanks for being a teacher.
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  My next question is always about the significance of the name.
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  But I think, I think we have it talking in ovals.
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  So instead of talking in circles, we, you know, we're
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  actually talking ovals. Just kind of a little play on
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  the words. You know, we thought maybe it
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  would just be something that that might kind of bring fans in
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  and just kind of make it work. So that was kind of Alice's call
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  there with the talking in ovals. I love that.
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  Well, Alex gets his mic and everything set up.
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  There's Alex. Let's see if he can hear us
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  here. Alex, we just got started, man.
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  Thanks for joining us. Why don't you, we'll catch you
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  up. We literally just got done with
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  the first question, so we're all good.
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  Why don't we catch up real quick and have you do a 32nd
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  introduction of who you are in this great sport of ours?
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  All right, so I'm Alex Plesta. I'm the Co host of talking and
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  Nobles over here with my awesome partner Dave Hyatt.
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  And yeah, we, we're on weekly. We do the show, we interview
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  people and we have a good time. Awesome, I love that.
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  Well, let's go to our next question.
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  You guys get to fight over who answers and what order and all
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  that good stuff. You guys are used to it doing
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  this podcast. When did you start talking and
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  nobles and and why did you start?
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  What was the motivation to get started?
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  They'll let you go, Yeah. Sure.
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  So, you know, I coached Alex when he was an athlete in high
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  school. So we've kind of had a, you
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  know, on and off, you know, like friendly rapport since then.
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  And as he aged, he came back and he was an assistant coach where
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  where I was coaching. So we kept in touch.
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  And I guess it was about two or three years ago, we were
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  watching the World Championships and we're just texting each
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  other back and forth. And Alex had been doing a
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  podcast in the past. I said, why don't we just do a
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  podcast on track? I don't care if anybody listens.
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  Let's just we want to talk about it.
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  So that's kind of where we started, just the two of us.
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  And then we got our first guest. It was Mike Rutt.
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  So thank you, Mike Rutt for being our our first guest.
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  And kind of from there, it's just kind of grown into for a
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  while was kind of more of a New Jersey thing with some pros.
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  And now we're just trying to branch out nationally and, and
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  give every athlete and and coach out there the love and the
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  flowers that they deserve because it's a hard sport to to
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  make your name in. So Alex, about two years ago we
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  started. Is that what I heard from David?
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  Yeah, it was right after worlds. We were texting during worlds.
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  And generally, you know, it was only Dave and I that texted each
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  other. We had only two track nerds that
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  were like, hey, let's talk about track.
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  And yeah, like I said, I have been podcasting for about 5-6
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  years at that point, doing some different things.
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  And Dave, I think jokingly was like, we should do a podcast
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  about track. And I was like, OK, And, you
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  know, then I got a logo together.
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  You know, I'll take credit for the name Dave because I did
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  think of the name, you know, a nice little pun on talking in
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  circles or talking in nobles. And I in about like two weeks
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  after that conversation, I'm like, let's do this.
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  And we started Dave got equipment really quick.
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  And you know, he was, you know, as long as I was serious, he was
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  serious. And we've been going ever since.
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  I love that. That's awesome.
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  You know, in business, like here at Gill, we have a lot of
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  different people that will purchase from us.
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  We'll have moms and dads that'll buy, you know, discuses and such
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  for Christmas. We sell the contractors,
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  athletic directors, but our ideal customer like who we are
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  thinking about when we design a new product, marketed product,
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  What are we what trade shoes are we going to go to is the high
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  school and college track coach. It's the same in podcasting.
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  Many, many different people might partake in your podcast,
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  but you're speaking to a certain type of person who is talking to
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  ovals. What is your ideal listener
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  profile? Who's going to get the most out
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  of watching and listening to your show?
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  I would like to say we kind of have a little bit of something
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  for everybody. You know, we have had on college
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  coaches, we've had on high school athletes, high school
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  coaches, current pro runners, former pro runner.
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  So I like to think that we have kind of a niche for everybody.
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  I will say we have kind of more been focused on the mid distance
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  to distance because that's kind of our background.
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  But we are really trying to branch out.
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  We've had on some throwers and and some Walter.
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  So we're just trying to get the fan who is knowledgeable, but
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  also the casual fan who's trying to look for something to to get
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  themselves invested into this sport.
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  I love that. Yeah.
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  And I think just like, you know, at first we were trying to go,
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  we were just kind of talking track.
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  And then we decided to start doing interviews because of my
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  previous shows. That's kind of stuff that I did.
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  And, you know, I kind of realized, don't have fear, ask
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  anyone anything. What's the worst they could do
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  is say no, right? And we've been fortunate that in
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  the Track World, a lot of people want to talk.
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  And like they've said, our goal is eventually become to tell
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  stories from the athletes, not just hear their accomplishments,
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  but why they got there, the grind they did before that, all
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  the things, you know, we see people win gold medals, we see
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  people win first place to break records.
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  And that's all we know about these athletes.
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  But we don't see all the issues and all the things that they had
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  to go through and we're trying to connect to the common runner.
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  And like Dave said, our biggest goal is to get more casuals
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  involved, to have them see that this sport isn't just no Lyles
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  winning a 100 and 200. It's what Noah had to do in
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  order to get there. And that's a big thing.
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  And I think that can connect to more of the casual fans while
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  keeping the, you know, track enthusiast also engaged.
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  I'm hearing kind of like the audio version of Sprint from
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  Netflix. So the call it the behind this.
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  They stole it from us. Yeah, that's right.
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  That's right, Netflix. Yeah, I hear it.
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  I hear. This next question and again,
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  I'll let you guys divide it up how you want to is what is, you
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  know, a couple of years you've been doing this now, what has
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  been your favorite episode? And this isn't normally always
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  the same thing. What has been your most popular
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  episode? So what has been the most
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  downloaded and listened to and what's been just your personal
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  just favorite, whether it was a guest, a a story, a time?
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  What was your your favorite and what was the most popular?
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  This was the question. I was like, oh, man, this is a
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  tough one. You know, there's we've had so
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  many wonderful guests and moments, whether just, you know,
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  little tiny jokes, you know, between Alex and I that that I
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  recall, you know, being on air sometimes those are just as good
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  because, you know, you have you're realizing that this this
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  connection you have with your partner is genuine and it's
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  real. For me, I'd have to go with
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  Julie Culley or Kiara de D'amato, those ones kind of when
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  I was done, I felt inspired like, so I can just imagine how
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  it felt like after Kiara, I started running again, like, you
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  know, hearing about her story and this long break that that
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  she took and being a mom and coming back and breaking
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  records. So these guests sometimes don't
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  understand how much that they can inspire us as so.
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  And if they inspire us, people who are knowledgeable, I can't
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  imagine, you know, a young girl listening to Julie Culley or a
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  Cure the Model and understanding the struggle that they had to go
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  through and they can relate with them.
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  I'm going to take a cheating answer here and I'm going to
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  kind of group it up because all the high schoolers we have had
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  on the show have been absolutely incredible.
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  Whether it's Emma Zawatsky, Cordial Van, I'm not going to
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  name them all, but just their poise and the way that they're
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  able to come to this space. You know, before we weren't
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  doing it live, we're recording, but now we're doing it live and
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  even to come on live and do it so well.
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  Dave and I always joking on the show, like when we were in high
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  school, we would have been stuttering fools.
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  But they are so well spoken and so well put together.
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  They're so that's kind of, you know, I can echo Keira and Julie
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  'cause I always talk about those being two of my favorite
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  episodes, but I think the high schoolers together have really
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  been some of my favorite things in connecting with all the high
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  schoolers. And their willingness to come on
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  has been so great. And in terms of our most
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  downloaded stuff, once again going to cheat because we had a
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  series where we had Olympic polls.
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  They were Olympic, Olympic Trials qualifiers for USATF, and
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  there was a group of seven that we had on and together there was
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  a ton of talents and a ton of success.
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  But it was again, telling their stories and trying to get people
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  to help fund them, to continue their dreams, to help them get
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  to the Olympic Trials. Because one of the things that
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  we always highlight on the show is our pros don't get paid.
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  Then, you know, our very few are on top that get paid.
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  And then everyone else is kind of trying to figure out a way to
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  live paycheck to paycheck, have another job, you know, working
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  out of college just to train. So that was something that was,
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  I think, really successful for us and for good reason because
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  all seven of those individuals that we interviewed were
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  fantastic humans and deserved everything and are going to
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  continue to be prominent in our sport.
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  I love that. Good.
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  No, I was just saying, you know, and also since with with our
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  background, any episode that we have usually with someone from
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  New Jersey who's who's a original or an athlete, they
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  they do really well for us because you know, a lot of our
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  friends and family are, are from that that area.
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  So that has helped generate and we've got a pretty good rapport
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  going with that state and their coaches and athletes willing to
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  come on to talk about everything that's going on.
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  So that's been wonderful too. Very cool.
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  Love that. You know, some of our listeners,
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  some of them have been with us since day one.
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  They've listened to each and every episode up until what we
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  just published out there. But most of our listeners come
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  in and out, right, whether it's they see the guest or even time
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  of the year for them. But you guys have been behind
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  the mic every single episode, every single day.
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  What have you guys learned from starting?
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  You know, Alex, you had some background here in podcasting.
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  What have you learned from hosting this podcast?
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  It's not necessarily a, you know, oh, that Kara runs this
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  for a workout. It's more of, you know, the
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  marketing, the hardware, the software, the interview style,
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  the, the working together. What, what have you guys kind of
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  gotten better at over the the two years that you've done it?
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  I'd say the biggest thing when you're working with a partner
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  and I salute everybody out there who does this solo and does this
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  by by them them themselves. Having a rapport with a person
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  that you can trust. Like if if Alex is sick, I can
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  step in or if I'm not feeling well, he can step in.
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  So having that connection and that partner that you trust and
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  is huge because there's been many times where we wouldn't
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  have had a show if we didn't have a positive relationship
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  with each other. You know, do we always agree?
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  No, but we can usually find common ground where we can both
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  make it work, where we both feel happy and, and proud of the
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  content that we're putting out there.
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  And just trying to make sure that everyone has Internet that
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  that's huge too, you know, to make.
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  Sure that you know. Getting on early and, you know,
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  resetting the Internet and just making sure that everything's
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  good. That's the world that we live in
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  now. We never have that issue here at
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  the Gill Connections. You know, one of the things I've
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  learned because I've been podcasting for seven or eight
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  years now at first too was like kind of keeping Dave encouraged
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  because when I started, I did a show solo.
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  It was all about sports. I could go back and listen to it
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  and it was absolutely terrible. Like there was nothing and
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  nobody should ever listen to like the 1st 10 or 11 episodes
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  of I did the Sports Opinions podcast was the name no one
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  should ever listen to that. It is should be graveyarded.
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  But it was kind of like keeping Dave encouraged because you do
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  kind of noticed and you know, I don't go back and listen
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  episodes as much as I used to, but I know Dave was like
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  listening to every episode basically like watching film.
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  And it was like keeping Dave encourage.
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  And now Dave fantastic. He's a great host, a great
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  partner, really good knowledgeable out the wazoo,
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  especially in New Jersey track and field.
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  Like when we have some New Jersey people that are
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  knowledgeable, I just sit back and enjoy Dave shooting it with
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  the other guests. The other thing I've learned in
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  terms of doing this, and you know, like you probably will
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  trumpet this, is being flexible when you're dealing with guests
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  because things happen, you know, even things happen here.
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  We had one scheduled earlier. We needed to move it.
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  I almost didn't make it this morning.
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  That's why I'm doing it from a car.
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  So it's like being flexible and learning that people have things
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  to do. And especially with track and
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  field, you're dealing with meats, you're dealing with pros
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  at times. It's you have to not be so
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  rigid. We're not network TV, We're not
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  something like that. It's OK, we do.
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  We go live Monday nights, but they can't do Monday.
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  OK, we have nothing to do Tuesday night.
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  Let's move it to Tuesday. Our fans will understand.
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  And it's kind of keeping that mindset and that flexibility and
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  not being so rigid because, you know, in the end, Dave and I are
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  doing this for the love of the sport and for fun.
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  So we don't want to pull that out of it.
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  What a great podcast lesson. What a great life lesson there
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  as well, Alex. I, I also just want to add one
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  thing, you know, like when we first started, we were all
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  audio. So that was kind of a transition
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  to go live on, you know, like there's no editing.
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  It's, it's kind of like this is what is it?
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  You got to be just mindful of every of everybody in your house
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  and where you are and, and the surrounding.
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  So, you know, like, luckily we haven't had anything, you know,
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  we've had guests have to plug in and, you know, run around the,
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  the, the, the, the, the house. But I I think just the the whole
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  live aspect really adds a different component to what it
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  is. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  All right. Last two questions, where can we
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  find the podcast? So I would start with the three
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  main ones. So Apple, Spotify and YouTube,
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  are you on all three of those? Yes, we are.
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  Yes, and then we're. Also.
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  Yeah, where else? And what is this live component?
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  So Monday nights we are live at 9:00.
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  Typically it's Monday nights, we can do our interviews at 9:00
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  and we are a lot when we're live.
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  We're going on YouTube, we're on Facebook.
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  We're also on X, formerly known as Twitter.
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  So we're live on all three. So wherever you want to access
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  it, you can get on all them and it's talking and ovals.
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  If you go search us, you know, I've searched there is no other
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  podcast with our name yet. So you'll find us, you'll see
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  our logo, it's a track talking and ovals in it.
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  And you can catch us live at 9:00 there.
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  And then I try to work as hard as I can to get it all, you
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  know, to go to the audio version, I edit it out, make
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  sure it sounds good. Then I try to get it up by the
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  next day. I think I've been lazy right
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  now, but I try to get it up by the next day for the audio.
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  And then it's out. Basically anywhere you can
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  listen to your podcast. It's Spotify, it's Apple, it's
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  Amazon. And I go through a great
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  service, iheart. So we're basically anywhere you
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  can find a podcast. Typically next day for the audio
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  but video, YouTube, Facebook X. I love that.
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  And last question is, you know the average podcast listener
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  listens to between 7:00 and 10:00 different podcasts being
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  podcast host. I'm assuming maybe you guys are
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  podcast listeners. I wanna know what is each of
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  yours favorite podcast that isn't your own and isn't track
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  related? Isn't my own, it isn't track
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  related. I would.
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  I'll have to go with anything and it's been a sad couple years
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  dealing with the Brooklyn Nets. I am a die hard Brooklyn Nets.
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  Fan so. I torture myself and listen to
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  how we're we're going to be good in five or six years from now.
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  But I know, but generally anything sports related is is
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  this kind of my niche. You know, I obviously listen to
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  a lot of track and field podcast, you know, Sidious Mag
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  coach Bennett things of of of that nature.
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  But when it's not sports, it's usually Brooklyn Nets or New
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  York Yankees or, you know, something of of that nature,
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  trying to see how my teams will venture going.
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  Forward. I'm sure for a New York sports
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  fan, there's lots of options out there.
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  Yes. It's.
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  Alex, what about you? So when it comes to me, one of
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  the things that doesn't get to shine too much through on the
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  show is I'm a giant nerd and I love comics, I like gaming, I
• 18:33
  like anime, manga. So when it comes to that,
• 18:36
  there's one show I love called Side Scrollers.
• 18:39
  Back in the day, I liked this thing on YouTube in the Wild
• 18:41
  West, YouTube called Screw Attack, and it was all a gaming
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  list. One of the individuals,
• 18:45
  Stuttering Frank, started a show called Side Scrollers where they
• 18:49
  talk about all the gaming news, culture news, complain about
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  things that we don't like to get flowers and things we do.
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  So that's a show that I watch basically every day and listen
• 18:58
  to every day. Then another one because I'm a
• 19:00
  big Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball Z fan, again, a
• 19:02
  giant nerd, is contentious with a podcast.
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  They cover everything Dragon Ball and we keep on getting
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  content. So there's a reason for that.
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  Podcasts still exist. So those are the two that I
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  frequent. I love that.
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  That's very good. All right, listener, you see
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  from your podcast that you're listening right now, we're about
• 19:17
  done here. So here is my challenge to you
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  on the same app that you're using right now.
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  Hit pause because we're done here.
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  Hit pause. Go to that search button, put in
• 19:25
  talking and ovals. That'll bring up their podcast.
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  And here's how I like to kind of dive into new podcasts.
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  One is definitely listen to their latest episode, right?
• 19:33
  That'll give you kind of the style and flavor that they're in
• 19:35
  right now. But then you heard their
• 19:37
  favorite podcast episodes. You heard their most popular
• 19:40
  ones, maybe you go back into their library and check that out
• 19:43
  as well. And maybe this is a podcast for
• 19:45
  you and your listening schedule that you have there.
• 19:48
  Don't forget, always hit the subscribe button for their
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  podcast. That way you'll know the exact
• 19:52
  time their latest one comes out. If Alex is being lazy and it's
• 19:54
  not until two days after the live version, you can always
• 19:56
  catch that out and always, hey, check out this live version.
• 19:59
  You know, we do a live show here every once in a while and you
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  know how fun and kind of it's unscripted.
• 20:05
  You know, most of our podcasts are unscripted.
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  Live is definitely unscripted. So I would encourage you to go
• 20:10
  check that out. I bet they have a pretty lively
• 20:12
  chat option and and fun in there as well.
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  And and some questions from the audience, if you will, I bet
• 20:17
  goes on there as well. So go check them out.
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  Talking and ovals. Alex, Dave, thank you so much
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  for what you do in our sport and for giving value and appreciate
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  you guys being here today. Thank.
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  You, Mike. Thank you, Mike.