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- 0:07Speaker 1: Today, from Bible teacher Chuck Swindoll.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Douglas MacArthur wrote on his 75th birthday, In the central
- 0:14Speaker 2: place of every heart there is a recording chamber, so
- 0:17Speaker 2: long as it receives messages of beauty, hope, cheer, and courage.
- 0:23Speaker 2: So long are you young, but when the wires are
- 0:26Speaker 2: all down and your heart is covered with the snows
- 0:28Speaker 2: of pessimism, you are young. and the ice of cynicism,
- 0:31Speaker 2: then and only then have you grown old.
- 0:42Speaker 1: What do you do with a gift you didn't earn
- 0:44Speaker 1: and could never repay? For Job, his fiery season of
- 0:48Speaker 1: suffering finally cooled. The long night gave way to morning,
- 0:52Speaker 1: and from the hand of God came blessing upon blessing,
- 0:55Speaker 1: more than he'd lost, more than he'd dreamed. But here's
- 0:59Speaker 1: the beautiful thing. Those blessings weren't just for Job. Woven
- 1:03Speaker 1: through his story is hope for you, wherever you find
- 1:05Speaker 1: yourself today, right now in your own fire. Today on
- 1:10Speaker 1: Insight for Living, Chuck Swindoll continues a message titled, And
- 1:14Speaker 1: Job Lived Happily Ever After. Or did he?
- 1:25Speaker 2: I find when I get to the 10th verse of
- 1:26Speaker 2: this last chapter of his book, that it begins to
- 1:30Speaker 2: list for me no less than four great rewards that
- 1:35Speaker 2: came his way. Four gold-like blessings from the hand of God.
- 1:43Speaker 2: And I enumerate them for us so that you might
- 1:47Speaker 2: take hope where you find yourself today. Now your rewards
- 1:51Speaker 2: will be different because our trials are different. The blessings
- 1:55Speaker 2: that come your way ultimately will not be the same
- 1:57Speaker 2: as Job's necessarily. But these are his, and you will
- 2:01Speaker 2: have yours. Take heart. The first of the four blessings
- 2:07Speaker 2: I find in verse 10 and verse 12 of Job 42.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Job's possessions are doubled. The Lord restored the fortunes of
- 2:20Speaker 2: Job when he prayed for his friends. And the latter
- 2:25Speaker 2: part of the verse explains what that means. the Lord
- 2:29Speaker 2: increased all that Job had twofold. Now, there's a second
- 2:36Speaker 2: blessing that comes in verse 11. His relatives and friends emerge.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Notice what these people did when they came. They came
- 2:47Speaker 2: to him and they ate bread with him in his
- 2:50Speaker 2: house and they consoled him and they comforted him for
- 2:55Speaker 2: all the adversities that the Lord had brought on him.
- 2:58Speaker 2: What a great family reunion. That brings me to a
- 3:02Speaker 2: third blessing that came his way. Job's children are all replaced.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Verse 13. He had seven sons and three daughters. Let's
- 3:13Speaker 2: say they did. Okay. She had a little hand in that.
- 3:19Speaker 2: They're both getting up in years.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Okay.
- 3:23Speaker 2: And one day she says to Job, you're not going
- 3:27Speaker 2: to believe this. but I think I'm pregnant. He goes,
- 3:34Speaker 2: say what? Let's just say they're both 70, okay? Let's
- 3:41Speaker 2: just start there. Here's Job laughing with his wife over
- 3:48Speaker 2: the fact he's going to have a baby. Takes some
- 3:51Speaker 2: maternity clothes out of mothballs and says, yeah, I guess
- 3:55Speaker 2: I can fit back into that. Not just once. Not twice.
- 4:02Speaker 2: We're talking ten pregnancies. He and his wife were given
- 4:07Speaker 2: the ability to reproduce. And regardless of their ages, and
- 4:12Speaker 2: we're not told exactly what it is, they get to
- 4:14Speaker 2: enjoy the blessings of parenting, get this, with the wisdom
- 4:19Speaker 2: of grandparents. Can't beat that combination. How often we have said,
- 4:26Speaker 2: I so wish I knew then... What I now know,
- 4:29Speaker 2: I'd have been such a better parent. Well, they have
- 4:32Speaker 2: the chance for a second time around. They don't make
- 4:36Speaker 2: the mistakes they made the first time, or many of them.
- 4:40Speaker 2: They got seven boys and they got three daughters. And
- 4:44Speaker 2: we read a little about the girls here, not anything
- 4:47Speaker 2: about the boys. We read their names, Jemima and Kezia
- 4:55Speaker 2: and Karen Hapuk. Notice something else about the daughters. Not
- 4:58Speaker 2: only their names, but they're lovely. In all the land,
- 5:04Speaker 2: no women were found so fair as Job's daughters. Isn't
- 5:09Speaker 2: that great? In all the land, there was none so fair.
- 5:14Speaker 2: And their father, here's the third fact. Not only their
- 5:17Speaker 2: names and their beauty within and without, but their father
- 5:21Speaker 2: gave them inheritance among their brothers. How unusual. But understand,
- 5:28Speaker 2: this is before the Mosaic Law. Now the fourth of
- 5:33Speaker 2: the great blessings have to do with his later years.
- 5:40Speaker 2: The blessings of a long and satisfying life. You read
- 5:45Speaker 2: of them in 16 and 17. Let's say Job is
- 5:50Speaker 2: about 70 by the time the healing comes and the
- 5:53Speaker 2: recovery and he's lived a full life and And now
- 5:56Speaker 2: we read that he lives 140 years after this, after
- 6:02Speaker 2: the trials. And now he enters, if you will, a
- 6:05Speaker 2: second phase of life. And if you add 70 to this,
- 6:08Speaker 2: you come up with 210 years of life. How great
- 6:15Speaker 2: that must have been for him. In fact, look at
- 6:19Speaker 2: what we read. He saw his sons and his grandsons. Great-grandsons.
- 6:27Speaker 2: It says four generations. Sons, grandsons, great-grandson. Maybe great-great, depending
- 6:34Speaker 2: on where the generations would start. It's not clear from this.
- 6:39Speaker 2: And then he died. Not a sweet way it appears.
- 6:44Speaker 2: He dies an old man and full of days. The
- 6:50Speaker 2: message reads, then he died an old man of full life.
- 6:56Speaker 2: The Living Bible renders this, Then at last he died,
- 6:59Speaker 2: an old, old man, after living a long, good life.
- 7:05Speaker 2: You know, men and women, not much is said in
- 7:10Speaker 2: any circle about those who are aging. It's sort of
- 7:15Speaker 2: the overlooked segment of life, even though there are more
- 7:21Speaker 2: of this particular category than ever before in our history.
- 7:26Speaker 2: of humanity. So we linger here long enough to not
- 7:31Speaker 2: only have a little fun with it, but to draw
- 7:33Speaker 2: some lessons from it. This is a man who has
- 7:38Speaker 2: seen a lot of life. It's said of Abraham, he
- 7:43Speaker 2: breathed his last and died in a ripe old age,
- 7:47Speaker 2: an old man, and satisfied with life, and he was
- 7:52Speaker 2: gathered to his people. Probably a reference of joining his
- 7:57Speaker 2: people in the afterlife. We would say in heaven. It
- 8:03Speaker 2: was said of David, then he died in a ripe
- 8:06Speaker 2: old age, full of days, riches, and honor. Job is
- 8:11Speaker 2: not dying a struggling, cranky, broken old codger. Who no
- 8:17Speaker 2: one enjoyed being around. This man is seeing his children,
- 8:21Speaker 2: his grandchildren, his great-grandchildren dying. He is reliving so much
- 8:27Speaker 2: of life and passing along so many of the things
- 8:30Speaker 2: that he has learned. One of my sources says the
- 8:33Speaker 2: patriarchal formula, old and full of years, is expressive of
- 8:38Speaker 2: a completely fulfilled life. What a way to die. Not
- 8:45Speaker 2: as we began living happily ever after. That's not possible.
- 8:50Speaker 2: We're on this earth. We still have a Sin cursed nature.
- 8:53Speaker 2: We still must deal with a hostile world and nature
- 8:57Speaker 2: and others that is less than desirable. But there can
- 9:01Speaker 2: be satisfaction. There can be fulfillment. There can be a purpose.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Age is not kind to the human body. There are
- 9:12Speaker 2: things that occur that even those very effective in their
- 9:16Speaker 2: earlier years find begin to fade. You who are younger
- 9:21Speaker 2: have no idea what that feels like. Let's learn from
- 9:25Speaker 2: a passage like this, the value of helping those who
- 9:29Speaker 2: are aging enjoy a more satisfying life. Douglas MacArthur wrote
- 9:36Speaker 2: on his 75th birthday, in the central place of every heart,
- 9:40Speaker 2: there is a recording chamber. So long as it receives
- 9:45Speaker 2: messages of beauty, hope, cheer, and courage, So long are
- 9:50Speaker 2: you young. But when the wires are all down and
- 9:54Speaker 2: your heart is covered with the snows of pessimism and
- 9:57Speaker 2: the ice of cynicism, then and only. then have you
- 10:01Speaker 2: grown old. It's my experience to be in an enviable
- 10:08Speaker 2: place where I am in life, especially as it relates
- 10:12Speaker 2: to ministry and to my connection with Dallas Seminary. You
- 10:18Speaker 2: have no idea, unless you're where I am, as often
- 10:22Speaker 2: as I am, you have no idea of the pleasure
- 10:25Speaker 2: that I get from being with men who are my mentors,
- 10:29Speaker 2: who taught me when I was younger, and they're still
- 10:33Speaker 2: walking with God. It's wonderful to see a 75, 80,
- 10:37Speaker 2: even into their 90-year-olds still loving Jesus, still writing great
- 10:46Speaker 2: works and reading and challenging me to stay strong. I
- 10:52Speaker 2: love it when they call me Sonny. Dr. Walvoord has
- 11:00Speaker 2: talked to me. He says, when I was your age,
- 11:02Speaker 2: I thought that is a great compliment, man. Now, I
- 11:08Speaker 2: know that aging has its scary moments, I realize. Some
- 11:12Speaker 2: are still driving in their 90s. We had one of
- 11:18Speaker 2: our older faculty members driving up and bouncing off the
- 11:22Speaker 2: curb not long ago. And the car just died. And
- 11:28Speaker 2: so the other, the person that was riding with him,
- 11:33Speaker 2: jumped out of the door and held on to the
- 11:35Speaker 2: top and went. It was great. I was so glad
- 11:44Speaker 2: I had not been in that car. Some wag said, remember,
- 11:53Speaker 2: older folks are worth a lot more. They have silver
- 11:56Speaker 2: in their hair, gold in their teeth, stones in their kidneys,
- 12:03Speaker 2: lead in their feet, natural gas in their gut. worth
- 12:13Speaker 2: a lot folks let me give you five tips on
- 12:24Speaker 2: how to stay young okay i'm going to pass them
- 12:26Speaker 2: along to you they're original with me nobody gave them
- 12:30Speaker 2: to me i've sort of learned them as life has
- 12:32Speaker 2: unfolded for me and uh you might want to write
- 12:36Speaker 2: them down i don't care what your age is you'll
- 12:40Speaker 2: be here someday And when you are, you'll need to
- 12:43Speaker 2: review these. You want to stay young? Remember these five things.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Number one, your mind isn't old. So keep developing it.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Your mind isn't old. Keep developing it. Read more. Watch
- 13:02Speaker 2: less television. Spend time with people who talk about events
- 13:07Speaker 2: and ideas rather than sitting around a shop talking about people.
- 13:13Speaker 2: And how sorry this young generation is. Nobody wants to
- 13:17Speaker 2: be around a crotchety old person who sees only the
- 13:22Speaker 2: clouds and the rain. Your mind is not old. Keep
- 13:25Speaker 2: developing it. Keep developing it. I read about one comedian
- 13:31Speaker 2: who said his daddy is so ready to die he
- 13:33Speaker 2: won't even buy green bananas. That's a crazy way to live.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Dare the aging process. Buy a whole bunch of green bananas.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Your mind isn't old. Number two, your humor isn't over.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Keep enjoying it. I love being around older people who
- 14:04Speaker 2: still see the sunny side of life. They still see
- 14:08Speaker 2: things funny happening. They still can tell a great story.
- 14:12Speaker 2: They still enjoy a real belly laugh. You look fabulous
- 14:17Speaker 2: when you laugh. And it takes years off of you.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Helps clean out some of the lines on your faces.
- 14:26Speaker 2: And some of you would do well to cultivate a
- 14:29Speaker 2: better sense of humor. Did I say something wrong? Maybe so.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Your humor isn't over. Keep developing it. Keep enjoying it.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Number three, your strength isn't gone. Keep using it. Don't
- 14:47Speaker 2: let yourself get crippled up, if you will. If affliction
- 14:52Speaker 2: comes and you can't hold it back, that's obvious. And
- 14:55Speaker 2: certainly we care about that and we want you to
- 14:58Speaker 2: find assistance any way you can. And we are increasingly
- 15:02Speaker 2: more sensitive, I'm glad to say, of those who have disabilities.
- 15:09Speaker 2: But most of us don't, thank the Lord. Quit addressing
- 15:13Speaker 2: every ache and pain. We're talking about how weak you're
- 15:16Speaker 2: getting and how others will have to do this for you.
- 15:19Speaker 2: You keep doing it. My physician friend for so many
- 15:24Speaker 2: years made the mistake of telling an 84-year-old woman who
- 15:28Speaker 2: had just ran five miles. He said to her at
- 15:35Speaker 2: the next checkup, he said, you know, take it easy.
- 15:38Speaker 2: You don't have to run five miles. Week and a
- 15:43Speaker 2: half later, she died. And he said to me at
- 15:46Speaker 2: the memorial service, I'll never again tell a patient to
- 15:50Speaker 2: take it easy. Step up. Step up. Take the stairway.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Don't always take the elevator. Walk out into life and
- 16:04Speaker 2: travel and accept the challenges that life throws at you.
- 16:09Speaker 2: You become increasingly more in demand. Your strength isn't gone.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Keep using it. Here's a fourth. Your opportunities haven't vanished.
- 16:19Speaker 2: So keep pursuing them. There are people all around you
- 16:24Speaker 2: who could use an encouraging word, an affirming note, a
- 16:27Speaker 2: phone call that says, I love you and believe in
- 16:30Speaker 2: you and I'm praying for you. So go there. Opportunities
- 16:36Speaker 2: have not vanished. Don't allow yourself to get crowded in
- 16:41Speaker 2: And closed in so that all the blinds stay pulled
- 16:44Speaker 2: and all the doors stay locked. And you live in
- 16:47Speaker 2: the terror of somebody taking advantage of you. What a
- 16:52Speaker 2: dreadful way to live. Without removing any of the need
- 16:56Speaker 2: for necessary safety, don't live your life facing and thinking
- 17:01Speaker 2: only of the dangers. If you do, you'll never leave
- 17:04Speaker 2: your neighborhood. Opportunities have vanished. Keep pursuing them. Fifth is obvious.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Your God is not dead. Keep serving and seeking him.
- 17:18Speaker 2: You'll find the living God is ageless. We always picture
- 17:23Speaker 2: him as an old man with white hair blowing wind
- 17:26Speaker 2: out of the north. But that's not God. The Lord
- 17:29Speaker 2: Jesus is timeless. One of the things we'll be impressed
- 17:33Speaker 2: with when we're with him is this incredible condition in
- 17:37Speaker 2: which he is living his life. Take care of yourselves.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Keep up those good habits of health. Don't think it's
- 17:45Speaker 2: not important. Job pulled through all of this and lived
- 17:49Speaker 2: even another 140 years. And I read nothing of his
- 17:54Speaker 2: being somehow set aside. Ten kids will do that to
- 17:59Speaker 2: you if nothing else. That'll keep you hopping. Came across
- 18:05Speaker 2: a piece. Lord, thou knowest better than I know myself
- 18:08Speaker 2: that I am growing older and will someday be old.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Keep me from getting talkative and particularly from the fatal
- 18:16Speaker 2: habit of thinking I must say something on every subject
- 18:20Speaker 2: and on every occasion. Release me from the craving to
- 18:24Speaker 2: try and straighten out everybody's affairs. Keep my mind free
- 18:29Speaker 2: from the recital of endless details. Give me wings to
- 18:33Speaker 2: get to the point. I ask for grace enough to
- 18:38Speaker 2: listen to the tales of others' pains. Help me endure
- 18:41Speaker 2: them with patience. but sealed my lips on my own
- 18:45Speaker 2: aches and pains. They are increasing, and my love of
- 18:48Speaker 2: rehearsing them is becoming sweeter as the years go by.
- 18:54Speaker 2: I dare not ask for improved memory, but for a
- 18:58Speaker 2: growing humility and a lessening caught sureness when my memory
- 19:04Speaker 2: seems to clash with the memories of others. Teach me
- 19:08Speaker 2: the glorious lesson that occasionally I may be mistaken, Keep
- 19:14Speaker 2: me reasonably sweet. Isn't that a great line? I do
- 19:18Speaker 2: not want to be a saint. Some of them are
- 19:21Speaker 2: so hard to live with. But a sour old woman
- 19:26Speaker 2: or man is one of the crowning works of the devil.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Make me thoughtful but not moody. Helpful but not bossy.
- 19:37Speaker 2: With my vast store of wisdom, seems a pity not
- 19:40Speaker 2: to use it. But thou knowest, Lord, I want a
- 19:43Speaker 2: few friends at the end. Give me the ability to
- 19:48Speaker 2: see good things in unexplored. places and talents in unexpected people.
- 19:55Speaker 2: And give me, Lord, the grace to tell them so.
- 20:01Speaker 2: I wish for all of you a full life that's
- 20:05Speaker 2: marked not by living happily ever after. Impossible. but satisfied, fulfilled, challenged, useful, godly, balanced,
- 20:20Speaker 2: reasonably sweet. Reasonably sweet. I'm going to draw two more
- 20:28Speaker 2: messages from Job. One will be what Job teaches us
- 20:34Speaker 2: about ourselves. That's next time. And following that, what Job
- 20:39Speaker 2: teaches us about our God, then I promise we'll end
- 20:48Speaker 2: the series. Bow with me, will you please? Could it
- 20:54Speaker 2: be that the reason you are finding it elusive, this
- 20:59Speaker 2: pursuit of a dream or remaining reasonably sweet, that you
- 21:05Speaker 2: simply don't have a Savior? Here you are at this
- 21:09Speaker 2: age lived all these years, however old you may be,
- 21:13Speaker 2: and you've never come to the cross. My, what a gap.
- 21:20Speaker 2: No wonder life's getting more tedious and you're becoming more negative.
- 21:28Speaker 2: You're lost. You're lost. Spiritually unborn. There's a remedy. There's
- 21:36Speaker 2: a remedy. There's a remedy. We sang about it in
- 21:41Speaker 2: the hymns and the songs. He is our strength when
- 21:46Speaker 2: we are weak. He is the treasure that we seek.
- 21:54Speaker 2: He is our all in all. That's Christ. I invite
- 22:00Speaker 2: you to him. Just turn it over to him. Bring
- 22:05Speaker 2: all the stuff of your life and he has a
- 22:08Speaker 2: wonderful way like restoring Job, he'll restore you, forgive you,
- 22:16Speaker 2: give you a future. Come to him today, won't you?
- 22:23Speaker 2: Thank you, Lord, for lessons learned within the lines and
- 22:27Speaker 2: between the lines of your inspired word. Thank you for
- 22:33Speaker 2: truth to live by and to die by and to
- 22:38Speaker 2: age with And to pass along. Thank you for our
- 22:44Speaker 2: friend Job. It's like he's almost become a member of
- 22:48Speaker 2: our family. Thank you for his model. Thank you for.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Coming back. To him with such words. And deeds of assurance.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Thank you for blessing him. Like no one else in
- 23:08Speaker 2: his day. We find hope there, Lord, and reason to
- 23:12Speaker 2: go on. We love you. And we say again, you
- 23:18Speaker 2: are our all in all. For when even our father
- 23:22Speaker 2: and mother fail us, the Lord will take us up.
- 23:27Speaker 2: And weeping may endure for the night, but joy comes
- 23:30Speaker 2: in the morning. Those who sow in sorrow and tears
- 23:35Speaker 2: will reap in joy. I pray for my friends today
- 23:39Speaker 2: who hear these words, who've never come to the Savior,
- 23:44Speaker 2: or they've come and they've drifted. They've let the old
- 23:49Speaker 2: nature take over. I pray that you'd cleanse them and
- 23:53Speaker 2: free them and give them renewal and hope. They might
- 23:58Speaker 2: become one of those treasured, aging people we need more
- 24:03Speaker 2: of in this old world that's lost its way. And
- 24:10Speaker 2: now unto him who has guarded us from stumbling and
- 24:14Speaker 2: who can present us faultless before the presence of his
- 24:17Speaker 2: joy with exceeding joy. To the only wise God, our
- 24:23Speaker 2: dear Savior. Be glory and majesty, dominion and power both
- 24:30Speaker 2: now and forever. In Jesus' dear name we pray and
- 24:36Speaker 2: everyone said, Amen.
- 24:47Speaker 1: What a gift to reach the end of Job's story
- 24:50Speaker 1: and find not a fairy tale, but something far richer.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Chuck Swindoll reminds us that on this earth, no one
- 24:57Speaker 1: lives happily ever after. Yet there can be fulfillment, purpose,
- 25:01Speaker 1: and blessing from the hand of God. You're listening to
- 25:04Speaker 1: Insight for Living. It's possible you found yourself resonating with
- 25:08Speaker 1: Job's plight today. Maybe you've been sitting in a cauldron
- 25:11Speaker 1: of your own suffering, and you're wondering when the suffering
- 25:14Speaker 1: will end, and if God even sees you. Well, Chuck
- 25:17Speaker 1: wrote a helpful book that will answer those questions. It's
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- 25:24Speaker 1: is for anyone whose faith is being tested by loss,
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- 26:54Speaker 1: book of Job actually teach us about ourselves? I'm Bill Meyer.
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