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Serial Siblings, Con Women, Vanderpump Predictions with Scott Nathan · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: I have a great show for you today. I've got
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  Speaker 3: one of your return favorites now, Scott Nathan. He has
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  Speaker 3: all the best Hollywood stories. Did an interview with him
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  Speaker 3: last week, but first I got to fill you in
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  Speaker 3: on my fun weekend in Las Vegas and some juicy
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  Speaker 3: stuff that's happened since with our favorite juicy topics. So
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  Speaker 3: let's get into it. First of all, I hope you
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  Speaker 3: had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. I know I did.
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  Speaker 3: We went to Las Vegas for my live show. I
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  Speaker 3: know many of you got the streamer from Moment House
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  Speaker 3: and you still have a few days to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: And it was really so fun. So I had, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I had, so Brandon has finals coming up. So Peter
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  Speaker 3: stayed with Brandon and I had the next best thing.
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  Speaker 3: My son, Drake, drive us. So the two of us drove.
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  Speaker 3: And we decided to drive versus going to take Southwest
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, just because honestly, I like just having a
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  Speaker 3: lot of bags. I'm disorganized. I have badges. I have
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  Speaker 3: stuff for the VIP. It makes it so easy to
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  Speaker 3: put it in the car. But it's Memorial Day weekend
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  Speaker 3: in Las Vegas. So we were a little freaked out
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  Speaker 3: that there'd be a lot of traffic. No, it was fabulous.
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  Speaker 3: Got in the car, got our coffee by 7.30. We
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  Speaker 3: rolled up at the Venetian by 11.30. I mean, I'm sorry. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything that gets me wetter than
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  Speaker 3: when I wake up and realize that I've slept for
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  Speaker 3: more than eight hours or when you've beat a time
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  Speaker 3: from LA to Las Vegas. So, so great because we're
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  Speaker 3: at the Venetian and being that I'm performing there, you
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  Speaker 3: get some great perks when you get to perform there.
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  Speaker 3: One being we get to check into the VIP lounge.
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  Speaker 3: So that's really great because they have free waters there.
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  Speaker 3: And if you've been listening to me for a while,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Peter has a real contention about us ever
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  Speaker 3: taking anything from the mini bar, which every hotel, especially
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  Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, there's like a sensor. So even if
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  Speaker 3: you took it and then was like, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I need this little beer or this
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  Speaker 3: half bottle of wine. If you put it back too bad,
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  Speaker 3: it's on your bill. So I'm like, okay, so we
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  Speaker 3: got some waters. I got a free latte.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Then we had a little bit of time. So Drake
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  Speaker 3: and I got a cute lunch and then went back.
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  Speaker 3: Our room was fabulous. I had my room on my side.
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  Speaker 3: We had a whole living room. And then Drake had
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  Speaker 3: his room on his side. And then Justin and his boyfriend, Evan,
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  Speaker 3: came over and Chris, and we had like a little
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  Speaker 3: cocktail hour, a little voove. Then we went to Mont 32, which....
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Juicy Scooper, Dawn Britt hooked me up with that. And
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  Speaker 3: I loved that meal, but it was pricey. So pricey
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  Speaker 3: that they don't tell you the price. And one of
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  Speaker 3: the things was this absolutely delicious lobster that is a
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  Speaker 3: lobster from Australia that besides having an accent, it also
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have any claws, which is weird. Anyway, so the
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  Speaker 3: bill comes and I don't have my readers. So I
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  Speaker 3: give it to my son, Drake. And I go, I
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  Speaker 3: think part of it's comped or whatever. And Drake is like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my God, mom, the lobster is so expensive. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, luckily the guy came right over and he goes, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: this is on us. So we tipped the guy and
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  Speaker 3: we left. The next morning, Drake was like, mom, the
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  Speaker 3: anxiety I felt, because the Peter gene is so strong.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, he's like that lobster for the cost
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  Speaker 3: of that lobster. They must give him a first class
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  Speaker 3: ticket from Australia because when he told me, I was like, wow.
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  Speaker 3: But I have to say it was beyond delicious. And
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  Speaker 3: then we had a duck that they like carved up.
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  Speaker 1: We all ate it.
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  Speaker 3: It was so good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So then Justin and Evan go off to like an
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  Speaker 3: O show at Bellagio and they have fun. Drake goes
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  Speaker 3: back to the room and I'm friendly with Hannah Berner.
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  Speaker 3: She was performing at the win across the way. So
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  Speaker 3: we were, Chris and I were able to see the
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  Speaker 3: last end of her show and she was traveling alone.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't have any friends there. The husband, she's just
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  Speaker 3: like on tour. So that was so fun. So we
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  Speaker 3: went over to Delilah's, which is a really fun place
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  Speaker 3: in the wind, which is kind of like, it's sort
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  Speaker 3: of like a speakeasy. Like you feel like you walked
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  Speaker 3: into like the great Gadsby. It's really fun. And so
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  Speaker 3: we had some drinks there and, um, and headed back.
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  Speaker 3: And this is what I love when I do a
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  Speaker 3: Las Vegas show because I stay for two nights, but
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  Speaker 3: I only have a show one because when I have
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  Speaker 3: the show, then that whole day I'm really focused on
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  Speaker 3: the show. So Saturday starts and we go to Lavo
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  Speaker 3: for brunch. Oh my God. The brunch is ridiculous at Lavo.
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  Speaker 3: Had lunch, brunch there with my friend Mike, who is
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  Speaker 3: a Vegas resident and works in hospitality. He's great. So
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  Speaker 3: we had our food there. Then we go over to
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  Speaker 3: our cabana where they hooked me up again. This is
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  Speaker 3: the nicest cabana I've ever been in my life. It
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  Speaker 3: was like an apartment. It had a bathroom, full air conditioning.
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  Speaker 3: So that was great. So I was able to like
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  Speaker 3: go over the topics with Justin and Chris there while
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  Speaker 3: we had some like tacos and stuff. And then Spencer
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  Speaker 3: arrives with his dad because Heidi ended up staying home
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  Speaker 3: with the kids. And the dad was so sweet. So
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  Speaker 3: they have fun. We have fun with them. And then
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  Speaker 3: get ready for the show. So I get all cute.
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  Speaker 3: I have a great You know me with my shorts
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  Speaker 3: and my blazers. And I've never, until last year, ever
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  Speaker 3: wore naked legs on stage until last year was the
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  Speaker 3: first time I did it. Because I always thought as
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  Speaker 3: a young female comedian that like, that's too sexy. These
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  Speaker 3: little chicken legs will like distract people from my jokes.
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  Speaker 3: And now that I'm like, how many more years do
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  Speaker 3: I have left to even show these chicken legs? Now
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I am showing them in a shorts and
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  Speaker 3: blazer combo from Alice and Olivia and just really feeling myself.
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  Speaker 3: And I loved doing the show. We had so much fun.
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  Speaker 3: I screwed it up a little bit. I brought out Spencer. No,
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  Speaker 3: I brought out Chris. And Chris was the closer. And
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  Speaker 3: we had all these fun videos that are like scraped
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  Speaker 3: from the internet from when we were on Chelsea Lately
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  Speaker 3: that we rediscovered. And I was able to play in
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  Speaker 3: the live show. So that was really fun. And of course,
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  Speaker 3: had some juice. So that was all great. And then
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  Speaker 3: on the way home, we charged our Tesla and went
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  Speaker 3: to Prim. which is so depressing. It's just like about
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  Speaker 3: 30 minutes from the strip. And there's like a sad
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  Speaker 3: roller coaster that I don't think a roller, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think a, a coaster or whatever you call it, like
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  Speaker 3: the little ride, I don't think it's worked in like
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  Speaker 3: 15 years. And it's just, is just a vibe of
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  Speaker 3: just like, wow, what the hell is this? Like nobody's
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  Speaker 3: working there. It's just like one lone person by themselves. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: But kind of interesting to go look at. So we
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  Speaker 3: get going, and it was my anniversary weekend, 23 years.
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  Speaker 3: It's always been Memorial Day weekend. So I come home.
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  Speaker 3: Peter did give me a beautiful orchid purchased at Target.
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  Speaker 3: And Raven was, I don't know that she was thrilled
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  Speaker 3: to see me. I felt like Ariana coming home from
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  Speaker 3: my grandmother's funeral and to only find out that Rachel's
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  Speaker 3: been hanging out with Tom Sandoval all weekend. And she's like, hi, Hank.
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  Speaker 3: How was your trip? So sorry for you. It was
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  Speaker 3: so that we were here and I am recording this
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  Speaker 3: now and I'm excited to enjoy the Memorial Day in
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. Ross Matthews is coming over. Ross is
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  Speaker 3: going to be on soon on the show and Sarah's
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  Speaker 3: going to be Wednesday and it's all good. I was
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  Speaker 3: supposed to have Brandy and Julie last week, but poor
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  Speaker 3: Brandy's little peewee has gone on to heaven after 23
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  Speaker 3: years of life So they'll be coming back soon. But
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  Speaker 3: it was so much fun. Had the best time. And
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  Speaker 3: really like a seamless weekend. And I also want to say,
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  Speaker 3: not that crowded for Memorial Day weekend. And apparently it's
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  Speaker 3: because the weekend before, there was the, what was that,
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  Speaker 3: like a music festival, electric music, electric parade? Oh, EDM.
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  Speaker 1: EDM.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess every happening person goes to that. So
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  Speaker 3: it was like very chill. Restaurants were not crowded. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: we went to Villa Azur after the show. And it
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  Speaker 3: was like pretty loud music. And we were dancing and
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  Speaker 3: just having a blast. And just super fun. So just
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  Speaker 3: beginning to end, so fun, so great. Okay, so now
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  Speaker 3: I want to get into Real Housewives of New Jersey.
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  Speaker 3: I am so excited for the reunion tonight, you guys.
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  Speaker 3: If you have not seen the trailer, if you have
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  Speaker 3: not watched this season, this is going to be epic.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be crazy. The clips from this thing
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  Speaker 3: are like chills. I'm scared. So as you know, if
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  Speaker 3: you've been listening to Juicy Scoop, Teresa, who's the star
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  Speaker 3: of the show, has married to this guy, Louie, now.
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  Speaker 3: After her husband of many years, Joe Giudice, they got
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  Speaker 3: divorced after he came back. from prison, he lives in
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  Speaker 3: the Bahamas because he is an Italian citizen. Even though
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  Speaker 3: he's been here since he was one month old, he
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  Speaker 3: never got around to getting his papers. Not too bright
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  Speaker 3: of a thing to do, but whatever. So she marries Louie,
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  Speaker 3: and we got to see the special, the wedding special,
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  Speaker 3: this past week. And I did kind of enjoy, I
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  Speaker 3: really do kind of like enjoy watching the special. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why she had burlesque dancers and like naked
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  Speaker 3: people dancing while Jennifer Aiden's daughter was there. I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was kind of weird. Um, but Hey, it's her wedding.
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  Speaker 3: And if they're like this hot, sexy couple, he's like,
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  Speaker 3: want to have sex. I think they have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of sex. And then he, um, but people in his family,
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  Speaker 3: like his brother and his dad, they gave speeches about
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  Speaker 3: how loyal Teresa is. And he used the word a
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  Speaker 3: lot too. loyal, loyalty, loyalty. And he had a couple
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  Speaker 3: of people that were from his famous video of when,
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  Speaker 3: I guess a couple of years ago when he was
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  Speaker 3: engaged to somebody else, he went to this like Christian man,
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  Speaker 3: you know, empowerment kind of a thing, um, through this
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  Speaker 3: inspirational speaker speaker who, and podcaster named Garrett White, who
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  Speaker 3: lives out there. And he gave this video to his
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  Speaker 3: fiance at the time saying, I'm going to make it better.
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  Speaker 3: I want to marry you. And all these guys behind
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  Speaker 3: him are like, this is the kind of standup man
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  Speaker 3: you have to be like change. Anyway, that video got out.
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  Speaker 3: And before, you know, I met, obviously I now I've
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  Speaker 3: met Teresa and Louie when I was in St. Bart's,
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  Speaker 3: but before all of that, I happened to be on
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  Speaker 3: my weekend with my girlfriends, um, for my birthday and
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  Speaker 3: I made them do a reenactment of it. And I
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  Speaker 3: got to find it and like repost it because it's
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  Speaker 3: pretty hilarious. And they had to stand behind me and
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  Speaker 3: none of my friends are like actresses or anything. And
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  Speaker 3: I acted like I was pleading to Peter to be
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  Speaker 3: a better wife. And then I was going to stop
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  Speaker 3: making such boring chicken and stop buying black shoes and
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  Speaker 3: like just really try to like try to come up
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  Speaker 3: with some new sexual positions. Like just try to make
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  Speaker 3: it the best wife I can. Anyway, so there were
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  Speaker 3: some of those guys there, but he kept saying loyalty, loyalty, loyalty,
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  Speaker 3: which is... some people felt was a little bit disturbing,
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  Speaker 3: but is that an Italian thing? But he's, Louie's not
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  Speaker 3: really Italian, but obviously, you know, Teresa has, wants to
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  Speaker 3: stand by her man. So the wedding, the hair is huge.
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  Speaker 3: He even looked up at it. I love that they
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  Speaker 3: were honest about it. When I met him, he's like,
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  Speaker 3: you're a comedian. What did you think of Teresa's hair?
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  Speaker 3: And I said, I think she let her hairdresser, I
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  Speaker 3: think she told her what she wanted. I think the
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  Speaker 3: hairdresser went too far. And by the time it was done,
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  Speaker 3: she was probably already late walking down the aisle. And
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  Speaker 3: if you have 1500 bobby pins in your hair, there's
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  Speaker 3: no going back. There's no turning back. And who cares?
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  Speaker 3: It's funny. Got great press. It's very Teresa, whatever. So
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  Speaker 3: now in the reunion, we're going to see Melissa and
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  Speaker 3: Teresa go at it. Joe and Louie go at it.
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  Speaker 3: And at the clip that I'm seeing is Teresa says
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  Speaker 3: to Melissa, her sister-in-law, I'm happy never to see your
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  Speaker 3: face again. Something like that. So they said they're not
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  Speaker 3: picking up cameras yet for New Jersey. They don't know
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  Speaker 3: what's going on with that. They normally would be like
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  Speaker 3: ready to start filming. So everyone is speculating. Are they
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  Speaker 3: keeping Teresa and Louie? Are they keeping Melissa and Joe?
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  Speaker 3: Are they all just going to come back and film together?
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  Speaker 3: Or are they going to split the two shows? What's
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  Speaker 3: going to happen? Because it looks like they really are done.
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  Speaker 3: And I just want to say, Oh, I did see something.
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  Speaker 3: Someone did send me something interesting about Italian men. And
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  Speaker 3: in some Italian families, not all, some, it's like this
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  Speaker 3: rule where in a man's life, his mom comes first,
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  Speaker 3: then his sister, then his kids, then his wife. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe Joe Gorga had his priorities like that.
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  Speaker 3: But God, if you are one of those women and
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  Speaker 3: you're number four and you've been married to this guy
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  Speaker 3: for 20 years like Melissa, that would be pretty annoying
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  Speaker 3: not to get the respect from the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: family and you're like fourth on the list. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not Italian. This is just what an Italian person
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  Speaker 3: sent me. So, and I have seen stuff where like
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  Speaker 3: a brother and a sister in an Italian family have
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  Speaker 3: this weird dynamic and the sister is like more, is
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  Speaker 3: really always like the matriarch of the family, even if
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  Speaker 3: the guy has a wife. But then I've also heard
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  Speaker 3: from Italians, and I think Teresa even said it once.
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  Speaker 3: What is it? A daughter is your daughter for life.
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  Speaker 3: A son is your son until he meets his wife.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know. But listen, these two... I think
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  Speaker 3: have to take a serious break, if not forever. And
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I also want to say as someone who, you know,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: have talked about adult sibling abusive relationships in which you
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  Speaker 3: have to break off all communications with your sibling as
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  Speaker 3: an adult, I think that needs to be more normalized.
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  Speaker 3: Because why is it that everybody is not critical of
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  Speaker 3: someone who gets divorced and Here you made a commitment
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  Speaker 3: to be with this person, you had children with this person,
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  Speaker 3: and now you get divorced. Obviously, nobody has a problem
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  Speaker 3: with divorced people, but people have such a problem when
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  Speaker 3: you wanna cut off ties with your mother or your
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  Speaker 3: father or your sibling.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 3: You don't even have children with that person. This relationship
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  Speaker 3: you were forced into, and just because you both came
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  Speaker 3: down the same vaginal tunnel and lived in the same
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  Speaker 3: house for maybe 15 years of your shared life together,
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  Speaker 3: Now you're 50 and you hate each other. You don't
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  Speaker 3: have to keep seeing each other. You don't. It makes
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  Speaker 3: it harder when a paycheck's involved and when the whole
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  Speaker 3: world is watching and the whole world is giving their advice.
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  Speaker 3: But even with cousins, even if the cousins don't hang afterwards,
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  Speaker 3: they each have their own sibling family. They all are
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  Speaker 3: successful people. I don't think it's the end of the world.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to see them all still remain on TV.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even know what to say to Bravo on
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  Speaker 3: how to fix this. I'm curious to see what they're
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  Speaker 3: going to do with it. Speaking of Bravo, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting. And I thought about this the
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  Speaker 3: other day. Andy has another book coming out. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of juice is leaking it. People are buying it, enjoying it.
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  Speaker 3: It's called The Daddy Diaries. And I guess it's about
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  Speaker 3: him being a young dad. But of course, he gets
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  Speaker 3: a lot of inside juice about his own relationships with housewives.
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  Speaker 3: And what I think is interesting is that If he
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  Speaker 3: has a personal relationship with a housewife, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: about their personal life or personal conversation or about negotiations, salary,
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  Speaker 3: why they are put on pause, why they might come back,
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  Speaker 3: any advice he has with them, any one of those,
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  Speaker 3: all those conversations, he can write in his book. And
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  Speaker 3: the housewife is not going to be pissed about it
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  Speaker 3: because she's hoping to come back to Bravo. But if
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  Speaker 3: a housewife shares anything about salary, negotiation, Anything that Bravo
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  Speaker 3: doesn't like, whether it's on their own podcast, my podcast,
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  Speaker 3: on the red carpet, in an interview, they could get
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  Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble with Bravo. They get scolded.
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  Speaker 3: They oftentimes get fined or worse, they get put on
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: pause or fired forever. I just find that kind of
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: a bit of a double standard and just something that
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know that's really been pointed out. Don't blame
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Andy for it. Hey, I share about my life. He
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: has every right to share it. I just think it's
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: a little... Maybe hypocritical being that every housewife now has
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: multiple platforms and multiple streams of income as they should.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: They all have merch. They all have a podcast. They're all,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: you know, trying to do live shows, whatever that might be,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: whether they're stripping, dancing, singing, answering questions, whatever. And you
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: got to make your money the way you're going to
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: make it because it's not going to last forever. And
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: that's always been my advice. So I don't begrudge anybody
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: for doing anything like that. A lot of people are
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: still confused about Pizzagate. So let me explain from my
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: knowledge and my understanding. I actually heard about this idea
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: from a friend, was told to keep it a secret.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: She didn't know if it was going to come out
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: on the show or not. But I was like, ooh.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: It was a couple years ago. And it was when
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Teresa was dating Louie, but they weren't engaged. And Joe
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: had a business idea for them to do together, for
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: him and Teresa to do together. At this time, they're
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: all getting along and he liked Louie very much and
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: liked Louie for Teresa. And there's episodes where he says that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So there was no issue with that. And he has
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: this idea, which I thought was a pretty great idea
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: when my friend told me. You get these like portable
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: pizza ovens and then you have like a subscription where
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: like dough and ingredients will come every month. So it
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: comes right to your door. And, you know, you're billed
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: monthly and you can have this great pizza. And the
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: pizza ovens were already existing. Another company had them, which
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: there's controversy as would this business ever been able to
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: do it because they didn't create the pizza ovens. They
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: were already in existence. But Melissa had a cousin that
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: had worked in the business or something. That person gets
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: all the pizza ovens in which Louie allegedly spent $ 250, 000
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: getting the inventory. Then somehow he decides, Louis says, I
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: don't think that No-Nose Pizza is a great name. You
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: have the book, Teresa has Skinny Italian, Skinny this, he's
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: got like four books with skinny in it, cookbooks. It
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: should be called Skinny Italian Pizza, something like that. And
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: they did a photo shoot with Teresa and the girls
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: to get this launched or to get funding, I don't know.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Joe Gorga allegedly finds out that they did a photo
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: shoot without him, without Melissa, without, I don't know, without
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the kids or certainly without him. And he's like, well,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I put up all the money, Louie said. So you'll
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: still be part of the business, but we like this
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: name better than No-No's Pizza. And I'll give you 10%
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: of the business. And Joe got very upset by that
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: because it was his idea to start. And then Teresa
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: got upset because she was like, oh my God, why
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: did we even get in business with my brother? Now
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: this might affect my relationship with this guy I really love.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: And Louie just said, forget it. I don't want you
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: fighting with your brother. I don't want to be fighting
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: with your brother. Kill the deal. I don't care that
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I lost money. That's it. And so.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: People say, people are saying, so the riffs of their
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: relationship doesn't have that much to do with the pizza
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: thing because it never went. Neither person benefited from it
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and it died. I don't know where these pizza ovens are.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Apparently they present one to Andy at the reunion. But
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: what Teresa told me is that the oven made a
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: very thin crust pizza. So the skinny Italian name was
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a much better marketing idea than No-No's Pizza, I agree.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Anything that's like, hey, you'll get skinny, I think people
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: want to buy. So there's that. Just thought that was interesting.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: And then, of course, with the rumors. Then they fight
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: about the rumors. And it's so weird because there's been
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: so many storylines, especially in New Jersey, that just start
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: from a rumor. Teresa said she heard a rumor about
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Jackie's husband, um, going to the gym and hooking up
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: with girls or something at the gym or whatever. That
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: was never proven to be true. Where did she hear
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the rumor? She never says, but she said it and
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: became a plot line. Um, Reward the easy way.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Optionscard.ie.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths. Life is
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: one long lesson of chaos.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: filed against me.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: home dad. What happens next?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to pull punches.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Marge brought up the fact because Jennifer Aiden was saying
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: bringing up the fact that Marge and her husband which
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Marge never lied about they both were cheating on their
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: spouses and then they got together and they've been married
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: for years she was always bringing that up to Marge
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: and they weren't getting along so then Marge brought up
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the fact that Bill Aiden had an affair before either
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: of them were on the show again that wasn't a
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: rumor but she brought up something on camera that we
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: never saw on camera but juicy all cheating This latest
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: thing is the story was, and it's confusing, that allegedly
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Margaret told, no, allegedly this person saw Melissa in a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: car making out with a guy. This person told Margaret.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Then Margaret told this girl, Laura, who's been trying to
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: get on the show forever, but never made it. Then
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Laura told Teresa. And Jennifer Aiden, or maybe just Teresa,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: but Jennifer Aiden and Teresa know. Teresa tells Louie about it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Louie says, Joe Gorga, come to my house. I have
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: something to tell you. He tells Joe Gorga, Melissa supposedly
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: was making out with some guy. And Joe Gorga says,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: he didn't just say some guy, he said lots of guy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Joe Gorga doesn't believe it, comes home and tells Melissa that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: And they're like, we're just telling you because it might
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: come out on the show. But we won't bring it
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: up on the show. Melissa, Teresa and Louie won't bring
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: it up on the show. But then Jennifer Aiden blurts
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: it out on camera to the new girl. I can't
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: remember her name. The new blonde girl. The new blonde
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: girl then on the final party goes and tells Melissa,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: everyone's talking about how you made out with some guy
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: in a car. Melissa goes, I already know about this because...
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Joe and, no, because Joe told me that Teresa did
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: this and then supposedly Gia called Joe and said, divorce Melissa,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: you could do better. Gia says, I've never said that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: What could have happened is Gia could have said, you
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: deserve better, Joe, Uncle Joe, if this is true. But
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: she did, there's no text messages of Gia saying that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: It was a phone call. Anyway, so they both feel
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: like the other has never supported them being on the show,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: have always been trying to tear them down. And we're
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: also going to see on the reunion that there's some
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: accusation from Teresa thinking that Joe and Melissa had something
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to do with the FBI going after her and Joe Giudice, which...
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: would be pretty horrific if that was ever proven. So
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: to fill you guys in, that's why you should probably
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: watch that tonight. And as far as the latest on
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the Vanderpump, we're almost to the tail end, but Joe, um,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: but sorry, Tom Sandoval was just witnessed, um, on the
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: phone where a fan took a photo and he's on
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the phone talking to, and it Vasquez, whatever her name is.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: What is Raquel's name? I don't even know her last name,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: but it says Raquel's last name on the phone. So,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you know, and she and her family came out saying
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: they were getting death threats and therefore had to call
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the FBI. So we know they called the FBI, but
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: did Melissa and Joe call the FBI? Chris Jenner, this
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: is a case for the FBI. FBI has a lot
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: more important things to do, okay? They should be breaking down, like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: pedophile rings and sex trafficking on... and things like that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: But anyway, they got to see what weirdo DM'd, uh,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Raquel and said, you're a bitch who needs to die.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Not that anyone deserves that. I would
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: hope that she, that she still is on a hiatus
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: from her phone and social media, um, for her own
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: mental health, which she said she's working on.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Um, And I think I've covered it all, you guys. Oh,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Kim and Kory are having like the divorce, the worst divorce.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: They allegedly want the other to suffer so much. Kim
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: is trying to sell her wigs for $ 2, 700. They're selling
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: all these clothes on Kim's closet. She's in talks to
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: get back on Real Housewives of Atlanta, which of course
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: we all want to see. That's a set payday. But
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I've said it before, my God, I think she could
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: be doing a separate documentary. But if she's talking to them,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: they're probably like, you can't do something in the interim.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: But wow, if I was Atlanta, I'd be like, we're
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: going to get a whole nother crew. You are going
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to be on The Real Housewives of Atlanta. We're going
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: to get a whole nother crew. We're going to pay
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you per week that we get to film with you
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: starting today. And whether we use this footage on Real
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Housewives or not, you're going to get $ 10, 000, $ 20, 000 a week.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: but we need to see you selling your wigs. We
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: need to see you talking to your lawyers. We need
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: to see everything you're saying to your daughters. The fact
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: that you want to get Corey's hair tested because you
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: think he smokes too much weed. We want to hear
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: if you're going to go and gambling anonymous, how are
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: you responding to the fact that you gamble all the
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: time and he has the receipts and he's posting about it. Like, please,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: when the Vanderpump thing scandal happened with Stassi and even Jackson, Kristen,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: when that whole thing happened, I would have loved if
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: they could have stayed on the show and we could
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: have seen the cameras that day. That is what we
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: want to see. That is what the fans want to
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: see is, you know, what happens when everything goes to shit. Meanwhile,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Lenny and Lisa of Miami, also horrible divorce. He's claiming
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: that he came into the home where she still lives
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: and went into the bedroom where she always leaves the mail.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: And then she came running out from her closet, screaming
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: at him and physically hit him. But then he said
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: she called 911 and said that he was the aggressor.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: The cops come, neither one was arrested. But then he
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: goes and gets an ex parte or whatever, asking for
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: immediate custody of the children in which he would live
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: in the home with the children because she's so irrational
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: and she needs to leave the $ 50 million house. And
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: he's going to move in there with the kids. And
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: he'll find her a nice apartment somewhere inland in Miami.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, he says she's bleeding him financially. And he
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: also said that she put listening devices in his car.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Hopefully they have cameras filming this all in Miami right now.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: That I am not aware of. Also on Vanderpump Rules,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: people are showing clips of, there was a scene between
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Randall and James at some party. And this is like
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: two seasons back. And you see Raquel and Sandoval having
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: major chemistry, major moment, major flirting behind. Lots of moments
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: like that. So most people believe the big reveal that's
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: going to happen at the end, the conclusion of the reunion,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: is that it has come forth, whether it's Raquel or
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: someone else, that she and Sandoval had some kind of
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: a relationship prior to the bone after Guy's night. Like
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't full-on boning, but maybe it was secret conversations.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was just making out. It's that it happened
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: a long time ago. And it's also going to, I think,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: be revealed that certain other cast members know as well.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Lisa Vanderpump has claimed on Twitter, absolutely not true. I
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: never knew. But we know Schwartz now knew since August.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: But did he know prior to that? You know, was that,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: was she actually trying to get back at Schwartz? I mean,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: we're going to, or it could just be a lot
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: of hype so that we don't get bored of it
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and we stay engaged for the next couple of weeks.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know the answer. That I do not know.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: The answer to.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: But I, my guess is that the relationship, no matter
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: how sexual or not sexual it was, there was some
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: inappropriate relationship happening between Raquel and Sandoval, like probably two,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: starting about like a year and a half ago or
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: two years ago. All right, now, you guys, we have
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: more with Scott Nathan, photographer to the stars, and so
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: much more. Get ready for some fun Hollywood stories. Hello,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I am back for the
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: second time with Scott Nathan, photographer, friend to every single person,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: invited to every single Hollywood party. Scott, welcome back.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: It's good to be back.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: How has your life changed since you've become famous from
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: being on Juicy Scoop? Do tell.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm someone who's spent my life hiding behind cameras
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: so I didn't have to be in front of them.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: And now with relative frequency, I'm getting recognized a lot.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: And what do they say to you? The Juicy Scoopers.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Because I know you get recognized from your TikToks too,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: but I just want to hear about the Juicy Scoopers.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Well, people will come in and they'll be like, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: saw you on Juicy Scoop. I was sitting having a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: meeting with a friend who's actually a pretty big travel influencer.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And this girl comes over and she goes, Fucking love you.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And I gesture to Sarah, and she goes, not her, you.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: She's like, I love you from Juicy Scoop. And I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: was like, no way, thank you. What are you, she's like,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: am I bothering you? And I'm like, no, no, my
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: favorite subject is myself. Me too. Yeah, and she's just like, yeah,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I'm the florist here, and it was at this cafe
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and they sell flowers and other things too,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: so that was cool. And then here's an amazing one.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm downtown at the Mayan Theater. going to see
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a Brazilian jazz concert. I'm with my friend and his girlfriend.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And we're in line for Will Call. And this lady
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: cop comes over to me. And she's like big and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem very friendly. And she goes, what do I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: know you from? And I said, I don't know. I'm nobody.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: And she goes, what do you do? I said, I'm
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: just a photographer. She goes, you on TV? I said, no,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I am not on TV. She goes, I never forget
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a face. This is not good. Like, it feels very aggressive.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: And she's a police officer. Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: LA cop. And then she goes, all right. And then
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: she walks away and then she comes back and she goes,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I do know you. You're the motherfucking sugar coach on TikTok.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: And I go, I am. And she goes, I fucking
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: love you. And she fist bumps me. And then my
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: friend's girlfriend, who's been a soap star for 26 years,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: she says, she says, I've been on a network television
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: show for 26 years. I've never once been recognized in LA.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: You've been on TikTok for 10 minutes and everybody knows you.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I don't understand this.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Amazing. Um, Okay. So I love following you. I love
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: having you on the show. What is it about you?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Do you go out every single night of your life?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Why do you get invited to everything? What is it
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: about you?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I don't. There was a time, my 20s, my 30s,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to a lesser extent, my 40s, that I did not
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: miss the opening of an envelope. I was out 300
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: nights a year. Now, unless you're paying me or it's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: something amazing. I'm not, I'm not.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: And is the, not to be rude, but a Mayan
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Brazilian concert to me, I mean, the Mayan theater Brazilian concert. Why,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: why is that so appealing?
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to be honest. It's like, to me,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: that just, it sounds like a fake thing that you
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: see in movies. Like, Like, whenever you see, like, a
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: movie thing, it's always, like, walking to, like, an art exhibit. I've, like,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: been to– I know you're an artist, but, like, I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: really have not been to many, like, art galleries nighttime.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: But they're always featured in movies. A book reading. Always
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: featured in a movie. I don't even know if they
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: exist anymore. Bookstores don't exist anymore. But I'm like, what
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: is it about.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I do love art shows. The big ones, the tier
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: one gallery ones. But it's also the crowd's really fun.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And you'd like the crowd, too, to go to the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Gagosians and the Hauser and Worth and the Blum and Pose,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: those big... I.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Don't even know any of those names because no one
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: invites me. Also, people say I'm very thirsty. I'm always
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: inviting myself to things.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Well, let's go. They're fun. But music, that's my weak spot.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I love the tribalism of concerts so much that I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: will go to... I will go see bands that I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: don't even like for the spectacle of it. Okay, good.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And tribalism at all. I remember one week in college,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I went to Judas Priest, Megadeth, the Three Tenors, and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Barry Manilow. I love concerts. I just love concerts.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And I think to answer the first question, how do
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I end up at them? I think it's just because...
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: this stuff. People like to have me along as a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: plus one because I can hold my own because I
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: can tell stories. And I'm also like a cactus. Like,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: famous people will bring me to their premiere knowing that
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I require no care and feeding. You can go on
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the red carpet, do all your press, ditch me. By
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the time you're at the other end of the red carpet,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I'll have all new friends.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: And speaking of all these friends, in all your stories, it's,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: you know, this person and this person. How many... people
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: do you honestly text and communicate with on a weekly
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: basis that are friends? Because it seems like it's got
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: to be at least like 40.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: No, it's like a handful, but I've been kicking around
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this town a long time. You build the collection, and
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you have to realize the vast majority of these people,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I knew them before they were famous. Oh, okay. As
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I met Katy Perry on the sidewalk because
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: she couldn't get into Chateau Marmont. She And I was like,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: me and my girlfriend were drunk. And we were like, yeah,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: she's with us. Come on in. And, you know, Dita
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Von Teese is a dear friend. Like, I knew her.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: She was literally a stripper in Orange County who was
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: doing really cool burlesque. And I met her on a shoot,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: one of my very first shoots for Playboy. It was
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: called Strip Search. And we were shooting strippers traveling.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Speaking of Dita Von Teese, that was such like a,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: you know, a thing that we'd see and she'd be
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: featured in reality shows and she's gorgeous and she's in
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: a champagne glass or whatever. Like, is that still happening?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Does she still do that?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: She still tours globally. She'll go, she'll go sell out
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: weeks at a theater size venue.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's so cool.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: She's, she's really, I mean, there are other burlesque stars,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: but it reminds me of an old Jerry Garcia quote
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: where it says it's not, It's not enough to be
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the best at what you do. It must be perceived
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: that you are the only one that does what you do.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, that is a good quote.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I spent, was it yesterday, Tuesday? I spent
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Sunday with her. I hadn't seen her in a while.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: We hadn't really caught up in a while, and I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: went over to her house, and we hung out and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: shot the shit, and I was so not read into
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: what she's been up to. And she's like, you saw
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: my Taylor Swift video, right? Taylor Swift video? I was like, yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: And she's like, what I really liked about Taylor was
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: that She said, Taylor said, everybody knocks you off. Everyone
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: bites your style, your look, copies your costumes. I want
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: you to be in a video where we're doing your
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: thing and I am, you know, giving you full credit.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: And I went home and I watched the video and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it's the martini glass with both of them synchronized spinning
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: in the martini glass and squeezing the olive all over
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: each other in the jewel dresses. And it's nice when
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: people do that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: When people recognize that you were the original, too, I think.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: And acknowledge it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Because most people do the Picasso, you know, good artists borrow,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: great artists steal.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Oh. So that was nice to hear that. Yeah. Taylor's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a big boy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: So now you have never been married.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And no children.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: No.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: But you have great dating stories. And it seems like
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: you've dated a variety of interesting women. So I would
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: like to hear some of. These interesting stories and how
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: some of these women are quite wealthy that you date.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: Some.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: What is that like when you date someone really wealthy?
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: It's a handful.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Nothing's free, Heather.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So what, tell me about, there was a story
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: about a girl that was into the horses. I always
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: thought about, I thought at one point I would be
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: in a position to become a late in life equestrian.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: But then I'm very scared of falling off a horse and,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: you know, getting crippled.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: So I do like the outfits, though.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: So do I. I like the costume. I started taking
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: polo lessons a few years ago just because I was
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, wearing white denim and a jersey and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: swinging a mallet around and looking, you know, like some
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Mayflower guy. Yeah. What was the end of my polo
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: career was a few times in. I'm left-handed. You're not
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: allowed to play polo lefty.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And I was like, why can't I just do it?
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And they're like, think about it. If two people are
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: riding toward each other, going after the same ball, and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you're right-handed and I'm left-handed, we'd kill each other with
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the mallet. Oh, okay. So it's like, it would be like,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you're right-handed?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I am, I'm right-handed.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd be like, oh, let's play tennis. You
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: have to play lefty. It's like, not possible.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I never went to any, I've never been to a,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I've only been to one polo party just recently out
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: where Coachella is. Oh, Empire, yeah. Yeah, and that was fun.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I think the only time I
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: ever saw it was in Pretty Woman, but never went
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: to it. Only like saw it in movies and stuff.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It's a really cool game, I think. And it's incredibly dangerous.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: You know, it has a higher fatality rate than Formula One. God.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: All right. So tell me about this equestrian lady.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Okay. So this equestrian lady was a lady I met
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: on Raya, like the beginning of Raya. And she's a
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: hedge fund manager.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Was she around your age, older, younger?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: A few years younger than me. Okay. And like, you know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: like a rich kid. And I saw we had a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: couple friends in common. And my cousin went to school
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: with her at their Ivy League school on the East Coast.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And she goes, oh, you might like her. She's kind
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of fun. She's a little spoiled. But, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So we end up dating. And she's got tons of horses.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: These championship breeding horses. Hunter jumpers. Warm bloods. This is
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: all foreign language to me, too. I'm looking at her
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: as blankly as you're looking at me.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: So she goes, oh, I want you to come see
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: my horses. And so we drive out to, it's like
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Santa Ynez area.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And she's like, you cannot tell anybody where these horses are.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no one I know cares where your
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: horses are. She's like, no, people would steal these horses.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Horse thieves are still a thing. So she goes, don't
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: go near that horse. And I go, I wasn't going to.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And I go, why?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: How many horses are we talking that she owns?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: A dozen or so.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: With trainers, with barns. And these barns are decorated way
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: nicer than my house. These are, like, beautiful, exquisite. You know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: they look like Ralph Lauren made them. So she goes,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: this horse's name is, his nickname is Cazadoro, which is
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Italian for the golden cock. And I go, why do
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: you call him that? And she goes, because his sperm
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: is worth a fortune. This horse literally comes diamonds and Ferraris.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Because any baby that, any little calf that he makes,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: what do you call a little horse?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: A foal? A pony.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: No. I go, what do you call a little horse?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: She's like, a pony?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: It's not a pony. It's a foal, right?
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. Anyway, so if you make one,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: that one's going.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: To be successful. Yeah, so everyone takes the top of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the food chain, they buy their sperm in these straws,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. So, so...
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I'm so bored. It's just, you know, these jumping things
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: around and around circles. There's no dudes there. All it's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: all women and they're really passionate. So I'm really exhausted.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: So I just I decided to step outside and smoke.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And this older gray haired gentleman pulls up at a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: green Aston Martin and he goes, oh, you're new. Where
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: are all the guys? He goes, oh, you really are new.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I go, you don't come to these? He goes, no,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: we pay for all of it. We come to none
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: of it. And let me tell you something. I don't
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: know who your girlfriend is, but she will never love
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you the way she loves her horses. I said, dude,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I figured that one out on the first date. And
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: so the event ends. She's walking me around, introducing me
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to people. And she introduced me to this little Mexican guy.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: And she said, this is Octavio. And I said, mucho gusto, Octavio.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And she said, Octavio, is he a trainer? She goes, no,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: he's a collector. I said, what's a collector? She goes,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: he extracts the sperm from my championship horses. And I said, well,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: so Octavio jerks horses off for a living? And she goes,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: why do you always have to ruin everything? Why do
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you always have to make everything gross? And I go, well,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: does he use a machine? She goes, no, he uses
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: his hands. And I go, well, he did have very
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: soft hands when we shook hands. And I go, so
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Octavio literally jerks horses off for a living? She goes, yeah.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: So.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, you're right.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Someone's got to do that job.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Someone's got to... Have the touch. So cut to two
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: or three weeks later, I'm in Las Vegas doing a
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: photo shoot of a bunch of pro athletes. And this
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: guy I know in the porn business, the director calls
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: me up and he's Italian. He says, Signore, I see
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: you're in Vegas. You have to come by the AVN Awards.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Which is the adult video.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: It's the Oscars of porn.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, adult video awards.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: So I said, and I had dated this one insane
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: porn star. And I was like, I don't want to
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: run into her. He's like, dude, there are a million
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: people here. You're not going to see her. I walk
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: in the door. The first person I saw was her.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so he introduces me to this beautiful British
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: porn girl. And I'm chatting with her. And she's from
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the same area that friends of mine are. And then
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: she introduces me to Kieran Lee, who anyone who's ever
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: seen porn has seen Kieran Lee. He's one of the
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: most famous guys in porn. And he's English, and I
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: happen to know that his nickname also is the Golden Cock.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: So we're chit-chatting by the slot machines, and I said,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: they call you the Golden Cock, right? And he goes, yeah, mate.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: And I said, why do they call you that? He says,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm the only guy who can work 28 days a month.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: And I said, you know, my girlfriend has a horse
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: named the Golden Cock, too. How much do you make
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: for a scene? He says, puffing his chest up, $ 1, 500
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: a scene, mate. I said, well, this horse gets tens
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars for an ejaculation. He says, show
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: him what his horse made. So I show him the
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: horse's website. He takes a screenshot of it, posts it
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: on his Twitter, and says the real golden cock, Cazadoro.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, so now I need to ask you about dating
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: a porn star.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: How did you meet this person? And what is it
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: like to date someone and sleep with someone that you
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: know the next day they're sleeping with people? And it's
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: not just like they're sleeping with someone. It's on film.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: It's what they do for a living. you know, they're
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: a sex worker. That's fine. We, you know, it's, people
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: have different attitudes about it now, but still, I always
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: wonder what it's like to be intimate with someone that
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: that is their job.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Well, this was, this was, uh, I guess you'd call
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: it a gateway porn star. Okay. So she only did girl, girl.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's always the loophole.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: It was fine for me. So her, her claim to
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: fame was she'd never had sex with a girl off camera.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: She'd never had sex with a guy on camera. And
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't pursue this, so I don't shoot adults. The
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: way this town works, as I'm sure you know, is
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: if you shoot on the north side of Mulholland Drive
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and play with the dirty people, the clean people don't
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: want to play with you anymore. And my very well-paying clients,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the Disneys, the Targets, all the beauty brands, the Schwarzkopf,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Urban Decay, they don't like, you know, you can't do crossover.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Being that that's the Valley. Yes. Which is where we
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: are now.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, where we are now. Porn Valley.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Love it. Just, I mean, growing up in the Valley
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: and knowing that it was the Porn Hub of the world,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: not so much anymore because so many people could just
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: do their own thing. But when we would like, when
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I remember early on, we watched like some like Cinemax porn.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I liked like, I liked like, I like like light porn,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: like porn light. And my husband and I were like
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: watching it because it like came with our cable. And
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: we would like stop it and argue about what street
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: we thought it was. And I'm like, no, I know
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: the cul-de-sac. It's off of Nordhoff. I know where that is.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: And he's like, no, I think that's right around here.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, this is real hot. This is a
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: real sexy moment for us just trying to know who
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: knows better Valley real estate.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I also like that they all, that so many of
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: them named themselves after places in the Valley.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Like there was a porn star back in the day
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: called Beverly Glenn.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: And then there was like Laurel Canyon and Christy Canyon
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: and Ray Victory.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Christy Canyon came on my show.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: She did? Yeah.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: How was that?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: She was funny. It's funny.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so the lesbian porn star. So I hadn't
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: worked in a couple months, and I'm like, I have
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to make some money. So I'm at a celebrity, like
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: a real celebrity, housewarming, and it's very dress up. And
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying hi to everybody at the party, and this
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: woman who I'd known for years, who was a big
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: celebrity hairstylist, comes over to me. She's like, Scott Nathan?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey. And I said, are you still
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: doing so-and-so's hair? And she goes, you don't know what
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I do now? I go, what do you do now?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: She goes, I'm the biggest MILF porn star in the world.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I said, are you married with two kids? She says,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm married with two kids, and I'm the biggest MILF
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: porn star in the world.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: So the hairstylist, she stopped doing hair?
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: She stopped doing celebrity hair.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: And how did she get into it?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: There was more money in it, and she was always
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: kind of an infomaniac.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: And her husband had a bit of a cuckold kink,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Which is where they like watching their wife with someone.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: So she's like, so I can tell where she's going
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: with this conversation. She goes, you know, the way you
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: light and the way in my connections, I was like,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: just stop right there. I can't play with you dirty people.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: She's like, what are you like a Mormon? What you
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: hate porn? And I was like, no, I love porn
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: as much as everybody. I just can't. It's the way
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the business works. I can't work with you. And if
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: word gets out, I can't do it. She's calling me
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: every two or three weeks. She's just like, come on,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I got a thing for you. You don't even have
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to use your real name. And I'm like, no, no, no.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: So finally, I was running out of money. And she goes,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I have a job for you. And I said, what
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: is it? And she says, just come and shoot a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: DVD box cover. It's called Romance Stills. I said, I've
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: never heard that term before. And she said, Romance Stills,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: it's like a lesbian, it's a lesbian feature. And the
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: girls won't even be naked. They'll just be in lingerie
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: looking at each other longingly. And I said, no nudity.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And she said, no nudity. You don't have to shoot
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the scene. Just shoot the box cover. I said, what
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: does it pay? She goes, I'll pay $ 1, 800 in cash.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: And I said, what's the address in Chatsworth? She goes,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: how'd you know it was in Chatsworth? I said, Lucky guess,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: because like 77% of the world's porn is shot in Chatsworth.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: So I show up there, and she's like, you don't
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: even have to bring grip or lighting because we'll have
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it for the scene. So I show up there. I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: quickly say hello to the girls. I barely meet them.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: They get their hair and makeup done. I'm like, all right,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: let's go upstairs. Let's go in the bedroom, sit on
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the foot of the bed, look left, look right. I
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: shot singles of both of them, did the romantic stuff,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: moved some light around, knocked it out in 30, 40 minutes.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And then I said, okay, here's your memory card. Give
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: me my money. So she gives me the money. And
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: she's like, where are you going? I got catering coming in.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: And I, you know, for lunch. And I said, well,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I do love free food. So I hung out and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I ate the catering and I'm getting ready to leave.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And she's like, do you want to copy the shoot
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: to your computer? And I said, nah, I'm good. She goes,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you don't want a copy of your shoot? I said, no,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I'm good. Because what am I going to do with
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: these lesbian box cover scenes? They're not going in my book.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm getting ready to leave again. She paid me
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the money. You know, and she refers to one of
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: them and she says, she likes you. Who's that? She
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: was the blonde one. I didn't even talk to her.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, she likes me. She goes, you should take
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: her home. She goes, you should take her home and
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: have sex with her. I said, look, I do okay
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: with girls, but I'm not really like to meet someone
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that I don't know in clothes and be like, want
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to go back to my place? It's just not my game.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I get to know people and I usually let it
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: be their idea. And she goes, that's such a square.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Just take her home. She already likes you. I said,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. So the girls shower.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: They come down in their robes. They're packing up their
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: rollerboard set bags. And it turns into the world's worst
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: porn acting performance between her and the girl. So she says,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: you don't want to have to drive all the way
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: back to Long Beach to you tonight? And she goes,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: but where would I go? And she goes, well, Scott
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: lives in West Hollywood. And she goes, Scott, would it
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: be an imposition if I stayed with you tonight? And
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I go, no. And then I feel like I have
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to be a gentleman and take her on a date.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So I go, well, do you want to get a
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: drink somewhere first? And she goes, I guess.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: So where did you go for a drink?
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Soho House.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: So I took her to Soho House.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: We had like a glass or two of wine. She did.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: And then made out in the photo booth. And then
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: next thing you know, we're kind of dating.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: So you took her home that night.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I took her home that night. Yeah. She stayed for
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a couple of days. Okay. And, and then we were
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: dating regularly and she was, uh, I, I, she was
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: a little, she was very erratic, her behavior. She'd be
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: the sweetest girl in the world. And then someone would
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: say something mean to her on Twitter. And I'd look
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: at it. I'd be like, this guy only has four followers.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: What are you getting mad about? And she'd like throw
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: her phone and like broke a hole in my wall.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, listen, you can't do this hillbilly shit
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: in my house. Do not throw your phone and break
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: my wall. You have to, you know, temper your thing.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: And then she says, you never take me anywhere. You
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: never take me to any mainstream parties. And I'm like,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: first of all, don't use the word mainstream. I was like,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: just saying the word mainstream in L.A. means everyone knows
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: you do porn.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: So I take her to a fancy, proper party. And
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: nobody knows who she is. She's too much of a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: lesbian for me. And everything was going fine. And then
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I started getting curious because this is not normal behavior.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: So when she'd be sleeping, I'd look at her medications
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: in the bathroom. And I know my way around prescriptions
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: fairly well, but I'd never heard of any of these.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So I start Googling them. And they're like schizophrenia medications.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: So she had bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. And I'd gotten
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: to know her dad on the phone. And she had
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: met my parents on the phone. And somehow my dad,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: somehow my dad figured out that she was a porn star.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I have no idea how. And he calls me all
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: creepy one day. And he says, does she do porn?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I go, yes, she does. And he goes, what's her
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: porn name? I said, oh, do you want me to
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: tell your dad? And he goes, yeah, I really want
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: you to tell me. I said, really want me to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: tell you? He goes, yeah. I said, I'll tell you
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: on your deathbed. You're not watching my girlfriend do porn, freak.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: And then she was like, tell him. I'm like, both
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: of you shut up.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: So how long did it last?
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Not long.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Now, when you have someone that you're dating that's kind
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: of weird like that.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I'm actually watching the remake of Fatal Attraction on Paramount +.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: They made it a series.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, I did not know that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: And it's pretty juicy, the way they kind of do it.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: They're kind of milking it out. It's modern day. But
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: the character of Alex, there's something mentally wrong with her
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: that makes her stalk him. It's not just that she
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: wants to be in love with him. So that part's
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: kind of juicy. When you're dating someone that you then
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: realize is mentally off to a point where they're taking whatever.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: She's acting erratic. You know she's on a very strong drug.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Does that make you scared about how do I break
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: up with this person so that they don't go off
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: the edge or don't try to You know, where they can,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: you know, they can take it nicely.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Nice letdown. Yeah, I mean, I kept warning her. I
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: was just like, this behavior. So I took her to
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Maroon 5's Halloween party at the cemetery, at the Hollywood
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Forever Cemetery.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: And there's like thousands of people there, so I wasn't
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: really worried about it. But just the way we function
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: in polite society is, you know, a certain way. And
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: we're working our way through the crowd. And I'm a
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: polite guy. I'm like, oh, excuse me, pardon me, you know.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: And she starts shoving people out of the way. And
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? You can't shove
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: people at a party. And then this woman comes up
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to us. And she's a little drunk and a lot overweight.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: And she goes, you guys are really sexy. Do you
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: want to have a threesome? And I go, oh, you're
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: so sweet. No, we're just together. We don't do that.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: And the porn girl goes, we wouldn't fuck you.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: You're fucking fat.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I go, that is a human being. You
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: can't talk to her like that. This is a human being.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: You can't talk to people like that. And on the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: ride home, I was just like, that behavior tonight was unacceptable.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: You ask why I don't bring you to things? I
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: can't bring you. You're like a feral animal. I was like,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: you can never do this again. And then it was
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: just a cut. And I was just like, I'm warning you.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: And what did the girl in the back seat say?
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were rude to me. No, just kidding.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: No, I was saying like you did take her home.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's funny.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: So I gave her plenty of warnings. And then I
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: just did this sort of fade out. I didn't do
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the formal breakup. I just started gradually ghosting.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: And you weren't scared that she was going to show
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: up at your place with a duffel bag?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: No, but then I ran into her. The next year.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: So the next year I end up at the AVN
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: awards again.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, so you run. Okay. And you ran into her there.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: This time.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: This time it's the, the, the AVN awards and the
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: shot show, which is the world's largest gun show happened
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: in the same week.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Usually probably a great pairing actually.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Cause all the Cowboys and Bubba's come over to the
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: hard rock and just stare at the porn girls.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. With their big belt buckles on. Uh, so I
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: did a photo shoot for this.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Gun company and, uh, You ran into her again.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. So we go back to the Hard Rock.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: And I go into the circle bar, which was that
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: circular bar in the middle of the Hard Rock. And
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I go, there she is. And I go, you know what?
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I don't have beef with any of my exes. I'm
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: ending this right now. So I go up to her.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: And she looks away. And I go, no, you saw me.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I know I'm here. Listen, you and I liked each
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: other before. We were friends before. Not really.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just for a few hours.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be friends after.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Like, come on.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: It didn't work out. Like, we don't have to be
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: ugly to each other. And she goes, you're right. I'm sorry.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: And we talked for a little while. We had a drink.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: And she's not good on alcohol, this one. So cut
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: to a few hours later, I run into her again
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: in a different bar in the hotel. And she stands
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: up on a glass coffee table surrounded by porn guys,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you know, with their bedazzled jeans and their tribal tattoos
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: and their big muscles. And she goes, that motherfucker right
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: there broke my heart. And I go, didn't I just
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: unbreak it like three hours ago? I thought we were cool.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: She goes, you hurt my feelings. And I go, I'm sorry.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden I'm surrounded by these
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: spray tan, three spray tan, muscly dudes. And they're just like,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: what'd you do to her, man? And I'm just like,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: mind your own fucking business. And thankfully they didn't beat
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: me up, but yeah.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: We're not friends.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Amazing. Now tell me about this other woman. that you
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: were a little bit conned by a woman you were dating.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I was a lot bit conned by a woman I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: was dating.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Okay. Start from the beginning. I love a con story.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Let's call it nine years ago-ish. Okay. I get a
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: friend request on Facebook, and normally I never accept those
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: if I don't know them. But this person I had
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: like a friends in common with, and they weren't the
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: typical friend collector types. You know how there's always that
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: couple dozen that are friends with everybody? So I hit accept.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: And we don't make plans. We're just making small talk
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: for a series of weeks, maybe three, four, five weeks,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and with no flirting and no intention of ever meeting.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: It's just something to pass the time. So one night
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: she calls me and she says, hey, I'm in your neighborhood.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I'm at the Pikey on Sunset. What's that? The Pikey
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: is like an old English pub and it used to
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: be called the Cochin Horses.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: It's really old. Like Hitchcock used to drink there.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And now it's like a fancy Michelin star kind of
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: restaurant called Horses as an homage to the back of
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the day. So I meet her there and, you know,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: we have some drinks and I'm about to say nice
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: to meet you because, again, I'm not a closer. I like.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Get to know someone. And she goes, hey, do you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: want to go back to your place and play? I go, yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: So we go back to my place and we do
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: some sex. And then she's like, I have to get
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: home and walk my dog. And I'm like, even better.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: You know? Yeah. So she leaves. And I don't hear
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: from her for a little while. And then three weeks later,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: she's like, listen, I just had a falling out with
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: my landlord. I have to move out tonight. Can I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: come stay with you for a while? And I'm like, no. Like,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know you. So she's like, Scott, I have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: nowhere to go. I am on the streets. I have
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: my dog and I have one bag. I have no
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: place to go. And I said, where are you? And
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: she said, Chatsworth. I said, do you do porn? She goes,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: why does everyone keep asking me that? And I said,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: because that's Porn Town. And she goes, no, I do
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: not do porn. I said, where are you? And she goes,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: DeSoto and Devonshire. So I go on Google Maps and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I go, hotels, DeSoto, Devonshire. I said, do you see
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: the Motel 6? She said, yeah, I see it, but
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I don't have any money, Scott. I said, hang on
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: a second. I said, I just booked you three nights.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: They're on me. You don't have to pay me back.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And I just figured it's a couple of hundred dollars.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I've lost that bastard in my life and I will
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: pay any amount.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Now, let me let me say right here. I think
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: you're very smart in doing that because I do believe
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: in my friends who have been financially conned by a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: guy that they dated briefly when they finally admitted because
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: they're embarrassed. They're like, well, he just needed a loan
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: for two weeks for taxes. I'm like, you were dating
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: this guy for three weeks. He's in his forties. And
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: he's asking a girl that he should be trying to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: impress for a couple grand that he can't get from
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: a credit card. He's exhausted everyone else in his life,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: a brother, a cousin for two grand. That's what you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: have to ask yourself when someone, so I think that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: you were smart to be like, Let me just give
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: this girl a gift. So you did that. Continue.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I book her three nights. I said, you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: don't have to pay me back. Good luck in your life.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I literally said that. Like, don't call me again.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Good luck.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Good luck with your life. So she calls me.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: So out of nowhere.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Before she calls me, she PayPal's me the full amount
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: from the hotel. And I was just like, oh, and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I don't respond. And she says, hey, did you get
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: the PayPal I sent you?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I said, you didn't have to pay me back, but
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: thank you. That was pretty stand-up of you. So I
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: thought that she was kind of all right. So then
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: a couple weeks later, she says out of nowhere, she says, hey,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: so my trust fund just came through, and my lawyer
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: says I can spend up to $ 10 million on a house.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, sure. She goes, Have you ever spent any
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: time in Montecito? I said I've spent a lot of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: time in Montecito.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: But wait, off the bat, you thought it was bullshit,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: or was there a little part of you that was like,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: maybe it is true?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Heather, we've been kicking around for a while. Okay, all right.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: You know the old saying, money shouts, wealth whispers?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: She told me she was a Getty. None of this
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: added up. Okay. You live in this town long enough,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you're going to cross paths with some of them. You know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: it's family free. So I said, sure you are. So
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: she's like, have you spent time in Montecito? I said, yeah,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in Montecito. I have
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: some friends that live there. She said, so I'm thinking
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: of buying a house in Montecito up to $ 10 million.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I said, well, good for you. And she said, do
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: you want to go house shopping with me? I said, no,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I'm busy. I have a lot of editing to do.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Just go. So she's like, well, I'm going to be
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: staying at a luxury resort there. I'll get you your
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: own room there. And you can just stay as long
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: as you want.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: So I call my friends who live on the beach
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: in Montecito, and I said, girl, she seems nuts. If
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: this turns out to be bullshit, can I stay with you?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: And they're like, you can have the keys to the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: guest house. You can come anytime without asking.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I said, okay.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: So I go up there, and I show up at
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the Bacara. You know, it's like a nice Carlton. And
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: it's real. They're like, welcome, Mr. Nathan. They put my
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: bags in a golf cart, and they drive me to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: a huge suite, you know, at the furthest edge, right
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: on the cliff above the beach. And she texts me
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: and she's like, listen, you don't have to hang out
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: with me if you have time for like a breakfast
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: or a smoothie. But it's yours. You were there for
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: me when no one else was there for me. Stay
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: as long as you want. I might be staying here
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: for months while I find my house. So I ended
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: up seeing her like twice, three times. I stayed there
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: for three weeks to the tune of.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Wait, you stay there for three weeks. You don't leave.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: And you never see her?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I saw her a few times.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Do you bone?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: Do you kiss? Are you all romantic?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Nothing, nothing. We like met for a smoothie, you know.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: This is so weird. Okay, continue.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: So, so we end up, so we end up doing that.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And then I get a terrible feeling. I don't know.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Like I, my spidey sense was tingling after three weeks.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, this feels over $ 60, 000 at this point.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm doing all the things I would never do.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Like what? Like eating the chocolate covered almonds in the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: mini bar. Right. Which are $ 90 and drinking liquor from
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: the mini bar. And I'm kind of settling into this
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: robe life. Yeah, yeah. So I get a bad feeling.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: So it's like 9 o'clock at night and I call
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the front desk. And I said, yeah, I'm going to
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: be checking out early about 7 a.m. Can you have
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: my car washed?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: But you never put a card down for like incidentals
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: or anything.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: No, but I had to give my ID.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, right.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Which was concerning.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: So I.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: So the night before I left, I had my friends
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: who live there who always take such good care of
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: me when I visit. I said, why don't you come by?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: We'll spend an afternoon at Bacara. We ate some pizzas
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: and we drank some smoothies.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: All charged the room.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they all met. The girl was there too.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: All right. They all met.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: And did they think she was legit? Obviously, you're staying
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: there for... At this point, I would think.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: She was legit.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: They were like, something's not right about this girl. She's weird.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I know she's weird. I just don't
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: know where the money's really coming from. So... So I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: leave in the morning. I get up really early, and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I leave. And then around sunset, I get a call
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: from my friend who lives there, the wife. And she says,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: where are you right now? And I said, I'm home.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I came back home. I missed my cat.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: So when you left, they never tried to charge you
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: with anything? They were just like, bye?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: No. I didn't even go to the front desk.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you tell the girl you were leaving?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I texted her when I was halfway home.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. I said, thanks for everything. I'm on my way home.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. So my friend and her husband tell me
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that they were sitting at the Four Seasons Biltmore, watching
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the sun go down, having a drink, and a phalanx
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: of FBI agents come rushing into the bar, tackle her
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: to the ground, zip tie her wrists and ankles, and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: confiscate her dog.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: So she was sitting at a different hotel, and your
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: friends happened to witness this?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: And run into her. And she had her dog. And
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: they're like, hello. And then the FBI charges in. So
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I go, oh my God, what is going on? And
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: my friend says, Google this name. And I Google the
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: girl's name. It was slightly different from the name she
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: told me. And the first thing that comes up is
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: a listicle in the Huffington Post of the most notorious
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: con women in American history. And there were people that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: go back to the 1800s on this list. And her.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm in a state of panic. I'm like, I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: think there's weed in the house. I'm going to go
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: hide it. I'm like, the sheriffs are going to kick
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: my door down. They had a copy of my ID.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: My car was at the valet. They have my license plate.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get arrested. So I call my lawyer.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: And I go, Bill, what am I going to do?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: And I tell him the whole story that I just
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: told you. And he says, Scott, do not call the police.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, they just did a press conference on NBC.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: They're going to come to my house. He said, Scott,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: if you call. I go, maybe I should call this
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: detective and get ahead of this and just tell him
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: that I didn't know. He said, Scott, the police are
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: not your friend. If you call the FBI or the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: police on yourself, I'm going to drive over to your
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: house and I'm going to kick you in the balls
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: as hard as I can. He goes, if they arrest you,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: do not say a word to them. Every syllable that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: you utter to the police limits what I can do
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: for you. You didn't do anything wrong. Just sit tight.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: So I didn't sleep for three weeks. I was in
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: a state of abject terror. And, uh, Her credit, she
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: never told anything about me. But I wanted to sort
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: of see if I could shift the narrative. So I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: called my friend Vicky, who hosts this network TV show called,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I can't even think of the name of it. It
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: was one of those true crime TV shows. So I said, hey, Vicky,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you want to win another Emmy? And she goes, I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: love you. She's Southern. She says, Scott, I love your stories.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: What do you got for me? And I tell her
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: the story. She goes, it's an interesting story, but is
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: she good looking? It really only works if she's good looking.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, she's good looking enough. So Vicky takes
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: a camera crew down to the arraignment in Santa Barbara
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: County and sends me a picture of the girl who's
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: got a split lip and a black eye and a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: royal blue prison jumpsuit. And Vicky texts me the picture
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: and she says, it looks like somebody had some sass
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: mouth down at the jailhouse. And they did a special
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: on it. And she ended up getting, she ended up
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: getting like five or six years in prison.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: What did she do? What was her crime besides scamming hotels?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, here, let me tell you how she scammed hotels.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: That's the whole backstory. So she'd been in and out
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: of prisons since 1994 since she was a kid.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: And the first people she ripped off was her own grandparents.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: That's always how it starts.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Siphoned their life savings. Oh. And it wasn't like buying
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: anything of value. It was buying luxury goods, buying handbags
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: and hotel stays. And she married some guy, ripped him off,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: ripped all of his... So she was an identity thief.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: So what she would do is she would steal people's identity,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: then go rent Airbnbs, then find a piece of mail
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: of the people who live in the house, apply for
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: credit in their name, get credit cards, and kept it going,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: kept hopping from Airbnb to Airbnb, stealing people's identity, and
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: then she was constantly on the run. And the cops
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: and the feds had been looking for her for years,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: and they finally nailed her just after I left. So
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: she gets five or six years in prison. Between prison
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: overcrowding and good behavior, she got out in three years.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: And while I have no desire to ever make contact
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: with her again, I do, in a way, thank her
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: for not dragging me down the drain with her.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: So she put down some fake credit card. And that
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: is so weird, though. I can't imagine that after a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: bill running up that high, that they wouldn't be a
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: little concerned.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: You'd think.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: Like, it kind of reminds me of the Anna Delvey story,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: where Anna Delvey... Invites her friend and then she's like, oh,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: can you put your card down? But even then they
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: were like, came up to them after a while and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: were like, you know, we've run it through. It hit
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: a limit or maybe whosever card she stole was so
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: wealthy that it was still going through.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Or maybe she was constantly swapping them. And then I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: later found out from a news story that the realtor
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: that was showing her all of these $ 10 million houses. Yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: She stole the realtor's ID while she was looking at
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: a house, went into her purse and stole her driver's
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: license and credit card and ripped her off. Oh, God.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: That's another cruel thing. It's always the realtors that get
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: sucked into this fake con of looking for nice houses
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: and stuff. And they're all excited, thinking they're going to
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: make a $ 10 million deal. And they're trying hard. And
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: they're going home and telling their husband, oh, I got
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: a hot one.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, every realtor I know, the first
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: thing they ask for, because they don't want their time wasted, is, okay,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: send a letter of proof of fund.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I think these cons, because it's fun for them, too,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: I think they choose someone that's, like, new.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Like, some pretty new girl on Joe Schmoe's team, and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, hi, you know.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: That's totally green. Yeah.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Like, that, you know, is just so excited to have, like,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: an actual client and, like, actually book some appointments and stuff.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: They don't want to be too pushy and say, Oh,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: can I make sure, you know, but if you take
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: them in your car, especially being a female, meet them
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: at the office, don't meet them at the property and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: then have their license copied. So there's a witness and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: then you leave that license with like the receptionist and
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: then you put them in your car or whatever.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were a realtor.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: How long did you do that for?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: My parents were realtors and then I did it with them. And, um,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: And I got people calling me because I was like
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: 22 and pretty cute. And they put me in some ad.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: And then my mom was so excited that I was
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: getting calls. I remember when I took this guy that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: was like a cop out to buy his first home,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: which still would have been a great deal for me.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: And then I realized halfway through, this guy doesn't want
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: to buy a house. He was very flirty and everything.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: And then I was like, Then I was like, listen,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: we had a fun day today. I showed some stuff.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: But unless you buy from me, this was a huge
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: waste of my time. So, you know, are you serious?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: And also, you cannot go with another person and look
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: at other houses with another person or walk into an
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: open house and buy from the broker that's sitting there.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: You have to say, I represent you. Here's a stack
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: of cards. Be loyal. It's a tough business.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: How long did you do it for?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: I did it since I was seven years old. I
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: assisted my parents. with delivering pumpkins to the houses in
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: the neighborhood, stuffing envelopes, soliciting listings at the local school.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: And then I officially got my license at 19 and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: did it, like, in summers of college. And then I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: finally let the license go once I was working on
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Chelsea Lately. I let it expire.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: You were on that show a long time, right?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from the beginning to the end, yeah.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I get the risk of sounding stupid. How long did
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: it run for?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: Seven and a half years.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Okay. So, yeah.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: But at a certain point I just let it like,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: you know, cause you had to keep up those classes
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And I was like, I think
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I can like make it now, but I still love,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love real estate. I love, you know,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: watching the shows that I, I interview a lot of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: realtors that are on the TV shows. Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: And you were like, you were head writer for Chelsea.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: I was, I was wrote on it and produced it
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: and appeared on it and appeared on it. Yeah. Regularly. Yeah.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was fun.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: What do you think about the writer strike?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Uh, I believe in them. I mean, obviously, it's ridiculously
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: unfair to writers. I've been looking at people posting their
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: residual checks from streaming, and they're getting one and two
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: cents for writing gigantic TV shows from streaming royalties. And
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: it's bullshit. And directors make a fortune. Actors make a fortune.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Streamer CEOs make a fortune. Streaming companies grow year over year.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: You've got to pay the writers.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: I just saw someone.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Can't AI this shit.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: I guess Deadline just posted a writer that explained it
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: really well, which I didn't understand one of the aspects
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: being the mini room, where they say, we just want
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: to pay for the writers for like six weeks to
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: write the show, and then that's it. That's where they're
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: saying it's these gigs. It's not several months, where normally
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: the writers would write it, and then they would also
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: be on set to change the stuff to.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Which you have to do because things always change.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this older guy was saying, you know,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: now we're going to have a generation of writers that
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: really don't know how movie making works and you're not
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: going to get the same product. And they're thinking, they're
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: doing it just like, just give us the script and goodbye.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: And they're taking away the art form of it and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: it's going to affect the product, you know? So I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: think it's a scary time. But, you know, I hope.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: I hope people really back them because that's a really,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: this is like a monumental moment of like streaming and stuff.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of the stars that are doing it. I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: love what Drew Barrymore did. I love that people are
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: taking a stand because this is, you know, just as
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: all the writers should back the actors when they strike.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: You know, like you have to be unified. And the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: whole thing has become a shit show from, as we
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: talked about last time, from the commercials to TV to movies.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: You know, like I told you when I started doing commercials,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: 15% of commercials were non-union. Now it's like one in
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: 30 auditions I'll have are union. Wow. So they're just
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: trying to.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Eradicate the union, yeah.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Not pay anyone.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: And all these unions have the highest unemployment rate in
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: the world. When you get a gig, you should be
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: rewarded for it.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Right. Good point. Okay, so tell me what... Tell me you...
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: What is your Dala Lama story? And what did you
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: think about him sucking the tongue of the kid?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I went about two weeks avoiding seeing it. I was disappointed,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I would say. But then somebody, I don't know if
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: it was in my comments or if it was on
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: a show, I picked it up somewhere saying that it
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't an unusual Tibetan ritual. Have you heard that?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: I saw that. I saw different things. could it be
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: that he has Alzheimer's? Then they're like, no, he doesn't.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: And good news is Alzheimer's is very little with those
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: type of people based on their diet, which I'm like,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: what's their diet? We should take it. And then the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: other one was, yes, it's a ritual. It's a joke.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's something.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I respect all religions.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's weird.
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  Speaker 1: But don't French kids children.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was weird. So tell us your story.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So I had this really good friend who
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  Speaker 1: was a model. And she was not a sugar baby.
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  Speaker 1: She was not a pro. She was just like a
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  Speaker 1: sweet girl from the Pacific Northwest. But she ran with
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  Speaker 1: a big crowd. And she was just one of those
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  Speaker 1: people that was fun to have around. So everybody had
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  Speaker 1: her around. And she was one of those girls that
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  Speaker 1: could commandeer jets. And she'd be flying all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: And so one night she calls me. So she calls
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  Speaker 1: me on her iPad FaceTime. From the interior of a
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  Speaker 1: private jet. And I've seen, not a lot, but I've
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  Speaker 1: seen the interiors of a few private jets in my days.
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  Speaker 2: This was different.
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  Speaker 1: This was a huge aircraft. And I said, dude, what
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  Speaker 1: kind of plane is that? That's the biggest thing I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: And she goes, ah, and she's drunk. She's got a
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  Speaker 2: glass of champagne in her hand.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, ah, do you have anything to add?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, find out.
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  Speaker 1: So she takes her iPad and she goes to the
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  Speaker 1: flight deck. She goes, hey, you guys, this is my
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  Speaker 1: friend Scott. He's really into airplanes. Um, And I go, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what are you flying there, Cap? And he goes, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Bowen 757-200. And I said, nice whip.
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  Speaker 4: And he goes, oh, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: So she goes back to her big, creamy leather seat
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  Speaker 1: and flops back down, and I notice over her shoulder,
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  Speaker 1: saffron robe.
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  Speaker 2: And I go, dude, is that the Dalai Lama behind you?
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  Speaker 2: She goes, oh, my God, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know him? I said, no, I don't know him.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, he's really nice.
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  Speaker 1: I said, dude, he's the 14th reincarnation of Buddha. I
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  Speaker 1: would imagine the very least he would be is nice.
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  Speaker 2: And she goes, what? I go, Nothing, never mind.
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  Speaker 1: So we're talking a little while longer and she shifts
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  Speaker 1: in her seat again. And I go, dude, is that
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  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton talking to the Dalai Lama behind you? She goes,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, yes, do you know him? I go, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know him either.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, they're really cool. Do you want to meet them?
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  Speaker 1: I go, yeah. So she starts walking back there and
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  Speaker 1: then it occurs to me that I'm shirtless in bed
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  Speaker 1: with just lamplight on an Ambien.
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  Speaker 2: But it's too late. So she gets on one knee
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  Speaker 2: with the iPad and.
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, you guys, this is my friend Scott.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to meet you.
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  Speaker 6: And the Dalai Lama goes, hello. And Bill Clinton goes,
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  Speaker 6: how you doing, bud? And I go, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: what to say. I'm like high and shirtless. And I go,
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  Speaker 6: your holiness, Mr.
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  Speaker 5: President.
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  Speaker 2: And then she goes back to the seat. I go, dude,
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  Speaker 2: where are you going with Bill Clinton and the Dalai Lama?
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  Speaker 2: She goes, Monaco.
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  Speaker 1: I go, what are you doing in Monaco with Bill
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  Speaker 1: Clinton and the Dalai Lama? And she goes, partying, duh.
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  Speaker 1: So could not figure out what this was about. So
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  Speaker 1: the next day she sends me a picture of a
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  Speaker 1: bottle of wine on a dinner table with the ocean
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  Speaker 1: in the background. And I don't know that much about wine.
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  Speaker 1: And so I take a picture and I send it
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  Speaker 1: to Carlo Mondavi, a friend of mine who's of the
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  Speaker 1: Mondavi Napa Valley family. And he's wine encyclopedia, wine rain man.
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  Speaker 1: And so I just said, any good? And he goes,
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  Speaker 1: that's the most famous bottle of first growth Bordeaux in
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  Speaker 1: the world. The most expensive bottle of first growth Bordeaux
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  Speaker 1: in the world. And the fakest example I have ever
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  Speaker 1: seen in my life.
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: They counterfeit a lot of wine.
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  Speaker 1: So this one is a 1947 Chateau Cheval Blanc.
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  Speaker 2: Which means white horse, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cheval Blanc. And it's one of the, if not
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  Speaker 1: the most coveted Bordeaux. So I go, Carla, are you
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  Speaker 1: sure this is fake? He goes, yeah, the cork's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: The label's wrong. The wine's, the bottle's wrong. let me guess, can?
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  Speaker 2: I said, no. He said, nice? I said, no. He said, Monaco?
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  Speaker 2: I said, yes.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, let me guess, some billionaire took his dick out,
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  Speaker 1: was trying to show up in front of all of
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  Speaker 1: his friends and paid six figures for a.
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  Speaker 2: Bottle of wine? I said, yep. And he said, are
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  Speaker 2: you going to tell them it's fake? And I said, no.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, why not? I said, if I've learned anything
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  Speaker 1: about billionaires in my life is they don't like being
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  Speaker 1: embarrassed or humiliated, not saying shit.
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  Speaker 3: So who do you think bought the wine?
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  Speaker 1: Clinton? Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Dahlia Lama? Or who?
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  Speaker 2: It was the billionaire that was.
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  Speaker 3: Invited them all.
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  Speaker 1: Invited them all. And I know who it is, and
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  Speaker 1: I cannot say. Some people guessed it in the comments
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  Speaker 1: section on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people guessed it's Epstein. It's not Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Thank you so much. This was extremely fun and juicy.
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  Speaker 3: We have more on here, so we'll just save it
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  Speaker 3: for the next time.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Make sure I write everything down.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Heather. Thank you, Annie.
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  Speaker 3: And tell everybody where they can follow you and sign
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  Speaker 3: up for the book that's coming out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So the book sign up is at baddecisionsbook.com. My
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok are scottnathanphoto. My Twitter is scottnathan. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks so much for coming.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Always a blast.
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  Speaker 3: Always a blast. Well, thank you guys for subscribing to YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: And you probably noticed that the top of my head
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  Speaker 3: was cut off during the entire first part of the show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to read your comments about it. I'm
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just came back from doing a show
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  Speaker 3: in Vegas. There was this, you know, there's Patreon, there's streamers.
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  Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
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  Speaker 4: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
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  Speaker 4: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
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  Speaker 3: You deserve a treat.
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