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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Prosecutors Who Could Have Stopped Him (10/11/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Speaker 1: When I talk about these law enforcement agencies and the
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Speaker 1: fact that they knew what Jeffrey Epstein was and what
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Speaker 1: he was doing, it's because there is a ton of
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Speaker 1: evidence that points us in that direction. There is article
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Speaker 1: after article, court document after court document that states that
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Speaker 1: everybody was aware of what was going on. And while
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Speaker 1: people in society can get away with the whole, oh,
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Speaker 1: I had no idea, If you worked for the DA's
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Speaker 1: office or the prosecutor's office for the state of New
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Speaker 1: York and you let this go on for all of
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Speaker 1: these years, what does that say about you? And especially
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Speaker 1: considering if we look at the overall scope of what
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Speaker 1: was going on as far as predators right under their noses,
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Speaker 1: you had Weinstein, you had Jeffrey Epstein, so many different
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Speaker 1: people that were able to just operate for years. And
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Speaker 1: the DA's office, Cy Vance and his friends, act like
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Speaker 1: they had no idea. It defies logic. It defies reason.
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Speaker 1: And frankly, I just don't believe it. If we didn't
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Speaker 1: have all of the evidence to the contrary, I'd be
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Speaker 1: more inclined to listen to what these folks had to say.
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Speaker 1: But we know that all of this evidence has been provided.
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Speaker 1: We have court document. I mean, we have ream after
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Speaker 1: ream of evidence in this case. And when you go
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Speaker 1: through it all and you put it all together, the
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Speaker 1: picture that it paints is not one that is very
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Speaker 1: impressive from the point of law enforcement. There's no other
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Speaker 1: way to say it. There's no way to sugarcoat that.
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Speaker 1: And frankly, folks, none of these people are above reproach.
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Speaker 1: If you are hired or you are elected to do
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Speaker 1: a job and you do not do that job, you
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Speaker 1: are a failure. There's no, oh, this one was in
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Speaker 1: my way or that one was in my way. You
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Speaker 1: have been elected. You have been put in a position
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Speaker 1: because people believe that you can help, that you can
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Speaker 1: change things. And if you don't do that, you're a failure.
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Speaker 1: And the prosecutors in all of these districts where Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Epstein was active for all of these years, I'll just
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Speaker 1: come out and say it since nobody else wants to.
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Speaker 1: They all failed. They all failed these survivors. They failed
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Speaker 1: their communities. And they failed the nation overall. You don't
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Speaker 1: think this is a big black eye for the whole
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Speaker 1: country when you have all of these so-called elite involved
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Speaker 1: in something like this? But we all know that the
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Speaker 1: best way to get to the bottom of something, the
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Speaker 1: best way to disinfect something is to shine a whole
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Speaker 1: bunch of sunshine on it. And that's what we're going
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Speaker 1: to keep doing. We're going to keep talking about all
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Speaker 1: of these people that sugarcoated what happened. We're going to
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Speaker 1: keep talking about all of these people who pulled the
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Speaker 1: curtains down. And we're going to keep challenging these false
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Speaker 1: narratives that keep popping up. Today we have an article
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Speaker 1: from the New York Post. This article was originally published
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Speaker 1: on April 11th of 2019. The authors of this article
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Speaker 1: are Susan Edelman and Rebecca Rosenberg. The Manhattan DA's office
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Speaker 1: had graphic and detailed evidence of pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's
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Speaker 1: depravity when a prosecutor inexplicably argued for leniency during his
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Speaker 1: 2011 sex offender registry hearing, The Post has Learned. Now,
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Speaker 1: they said in the aftermath of this that it was
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Speaker 1: a mistake by their prosecutor to make this argument, which
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Speaker 1: I find to be absolutely ridiculous. You mean to tell
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Speaker 1: me that your prosecutor had no idea what they were doing?
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Speaker 1: And furthermore, if that's the case, why wasn't this handled
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Speaker 1: by a more senior prosecutor? Isn't this a serious matter,
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Speaker 1: a very important matter that should have been handled by
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Speaker 1: Cy Vance himself? But we never saw that. We never
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Speaker 1: saw them take the time to really dig in here
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Speaker 1: and ask yourself why that is. Well, when you're talking
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Speaker 1: about somebody who's rubbing shoulders with the so-called elite, breaking
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Speaker 1: bread with all of Cy Vance's donors and shit, you
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Speaker 1: tell me how there's not going to be a pressure
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Speaker 1: campaign to keep Epstein out of trouble. And then the
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Speaker 1: audacity to get up there and argue that this isn't
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Speaker 1: a violent, disgusting offender, a level three offender, and try
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Speaker 1: and argue that he's a level one offender is just
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Speaker 1: beyond the pale for me. And there's no amount of
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Speaker 1: apologizing or coming in to clean up the spilled milk
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Speaker 1: that's going to fix it. The damage has already been done.
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Speaker 1: And the sad part is there has been no repercussions
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Speaker 1: for anybody who has been involved in this. In advance
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Speaker 1: of the hearing, then deputy chief of sex crimes, Jennifer Gaffney,
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Speaker 1: had been given a confidential state assessment that deemed Epstein
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Speaker 1: to be highly dangerous and highly likely to keep preying
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Speaker 1: on young girls. The DA's office admitted in its own
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Speaker 1: appellate brief eight months after the hearing. So you have
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Speaker 1: access to all of these files. You have access to
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Speaker 1: all of this information. I don't want to hear, oh,
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Speaker 1: I made a mistake. You're not the sales lady at
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Speaker 1: Nordstrom who gave me the wrong, you know, size pair
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Speaker 1: of pants. You are a prosecutor prosecuting crimes against children.
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Speaker 1: You can't be wrong. And if you are wrong, you
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Speaker 1: need to rectify it ASAP or own up to it.
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Speaker 1: But that's the biggest problem I have here, folks, right?
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Speaker 1: These people never own up to it. If they make
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Speaker 1: a mistake, they do something untowards. It gets swept under
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Speaker 1: the rug and it gets buried in investigations. So how
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Speaker 1: are we ever going to fix anything? How are we
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Speaker 1: ever supposed to hold these people to the level that
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Speaker 1: we should hold them if their superiors are always protecting
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Speaker 1: them and sweeping this shit under the rug? The brief
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Speaker 1: has been sealed since 2011, but the Post obtained it
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Speaker 1: Thursday after suing to get it unsealed. So the New
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Speaker 1: York Post has done a really good job as far
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Speaker 1: as covering this stuff. And they're one of the few
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Speaker 1: publications that have been on this for quite some time. Now,
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Speaker 1: I've been very critical of the New York Times, of
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Speaker 1: the Washington Post, and I'll remain critical of those outlets.
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Speaker 1: I feel like they've lost their way and they're more
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Speaker 1: in the business of dividing than they are in the
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Speaker 1: business of educating at this point, or at least opening
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Speaker 1: the door for you to walk through to educate yourself,
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Speaker 1: because really that's what it should be, right? You hear
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Speaker 1: about these news stories that the news is telling you about,
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Speaker 1: all the different things happening around the world. You get
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Speaker 1: interested in it. Now you have the ability to research
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Speaker 1: this stuff yourself. Take a look at a bunch of
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Speaker 1: different outlets. And that's what the media should be. But instead,
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Speaker 1: what they try and do is they try and educate you.
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Speaker 1: And I'm using air quotes here. Basically, they try and
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Speaker 1: indoctrinate you. Right. If you don't believe this way, well,
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Speaker 1: you're not you're against democracy. Or if you believe this way,
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Speaker 1: then you're a communist or whatever they might try and do.
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Speaker 1: The reality is this. They shouldn't be doing it. Their
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Speaker 1: job is to tell you the news, not to tell
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Speaker 1: you how to think. It describes the state's assessment finding
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Speaker 1: that Epstein should be monitored in New York as a
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Speaker 1: level three offender reserved for the most dangerous. That is
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Speaker 1: exactly what he was. The most dangerous of sex offenders.
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Speaker 1: Because remember, his proclivities never stopped. This guy, what do
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Speaker 1: you think? He just woke up one morning and said,
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Speaker 1: that's it. I don't want underage girls anymore. When you're
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Speaker 1: sick like this, you're wired wrong. And Jeffrey Epstein is
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Speaker 1: the epitome of all of it. In making its assessment,
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Speaker 1: the New York State Board of Examiners of Sex Offenders
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Speaker 1: evaluated the sworn corroborated accounts of numerous young girls who
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Speaker 1: had been lured into Epstein's Palm Beach, Florida compound in
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Speaker 1: 2005 and 2006. It's disgusting that they would even have
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Speaker 1: to go to Florida to look at this. Why didn't
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Speaker 1: you have your own case going on in New York City?
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Speaker 1: We know that he was using fertile hunting grounds, right,
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Speaker 1: to look for nubiles. Their words, not mine. So why
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Speaker 1: are you going down to Florida when your own backyard
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Speaker 1: is covered in manure? Girls aged 14 to 17 were
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Speaker 1: also recruited and paid $ 200 to $ 1, 000 to give Epstein
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Speaker 1: erotic massages that included sexual contact, intercourse, and rape, Palm
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Speaker 1: Beach cops found. Epstein pleaded guilty in Palm Beach to
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Speaker 1: abusing just one of these young victims, and was required
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Speaker 1: to register as a sex offender in New York since
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Speaker 1: he had an Upper East Side home. But when you
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Speaker 1: know people, and then you have people like Cy Vance
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Speaker 1: running the DA's office in New York, you're going to
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Speaker 1: get treated differently. And that's just how it is. Manhattan
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Speaker 1: prosecutors were aware the state board had assigned Epstein a
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Speaker 1: risk assessment of 130, a number that is solidly above
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Speaker 1: the 110 qualifying number for level three, with absolutely no
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Speaker 1: basis for downward departure. The brief notes, nevertheless, Gaffney argued,
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Speaker 1: that he should be labeled a level one offender, the
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Speaker 1: least restrictive, which would have kept him off the online database.
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Speaker 1: You mean to tell me that Jeffrey Epstein shouldn't be
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Speaker 1: on the online database? You know when you go on
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Speaker 1: there and you search for diddlers? You mean to tell
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Speaker 1: me Epstein shouldn't be in that database? If you look
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Speaker 1: at diddler in the dictionary, there's a picture of Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, he should be in the database, Ms. Gaffney.
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Speaker 1: Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Ruth Pickholtz sided with the board
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Speaker 1: and against Gaffney in designating Epstein a level three offender.
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Speaker 1: Epstein appealed and the DA's change of heart brief agreeing
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Speaker 1: that Epstein deserved the highest level of monitoring was filed
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Speaker 1: in opposition to that appeal. So if it wasn't for
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Speaker 1: this judge, Judge Ruth Pickles, Epstein would have been a
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Speaker 1: level one offender in New York City. Think about that
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Speaker 1: for a minute. And then you tell me that I'm
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Speaker 1: off base here. The appellate division ultimately upheld that Epstein
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Speaker 1: be monitored as a level three offender and he remains
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Speaker 1: on the registry. But he never checked in. He never
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Speaker 1: had to check in. He never did anything that he
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Speaker 1: was supposed to do. None of those stipulations were met.
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Speaker 1: Our prosecutor made a mistake. Danny Frost, a spokesman for D.A.
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Speaker 1: Cyrus Vance Jr., told the Post in December when news
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Speaker 1: broke that Epstein's sweetheart Palm Beach deal had buried evidence
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Speaker 1: he had allegedly abused some 80 girls and young women.
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Speaker 1: Reached late Thursday, Frost declined to say who above Gaffney
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Speaker 1: might have approved her decision to go easy on Epstein.
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Speaker 1: Vance's office has insisted that he was unaware of the
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Speaker 1: sex offender registry hearing at the time. Nobody knew, okay?
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Speaker 1: The office didn't know. The boss didn't know. And just
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Speaker 1: like Acosta, Gaffney was out here acting rogue. She went
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Speaker 1: off on her own and decided to do this. Does
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Speaker 1: anyone really believe that? Gaffney could not immediately be reached
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Speaker 1: for comment. Yeah, I don't doubt it. Probably not a
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Speaker 1: good look for Ms. Gaffney here. But once again, folks,
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Speaker 1: it goes to show you the way that this was
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Speaker 1: handled was straight up garbage. And all of these prosecutors
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Speaker 1: who want to get on Twitter and in different places
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Speaker 1: and talk about how great their offices were and how
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Speaker 1: much of a great job they did. Well, if you
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Speaker 1: were in any of these districts while Jeffrey Epstein was
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Speaker 1: active and your office is arguing for him to be
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Speaker 1: a level one offender and not level three, you, my friend,
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Speaker 1: and your compatriots have all failed. And when we're talking
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Speaker 1: about Cy Vance and we're talking about the pursuit of
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Speaker 1: disgusting sexual crimes, In my opinion, they failed miserably. All right, folks,
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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this episode. If you
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Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Whenever you hear people try and dismiss what
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was up to, one of the first things
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Speaker 1: people point to is the fact that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't
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Speaker 1: charged the first time around with trafficking or anything in
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Speaker 1: the realm that resembles trafficking. So of course people say, Well,
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein wasn't charged with trafficking. He wasn't convicted of trafficking.
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Speaker 1: So how could he be a human trafficker? Well, one
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Speaker 1: of the main reasons that that didn't occur is because
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Speaker 1: it was by design. The state went after their own witnesses.
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Speaker 1: They destroyed their own witnesses' credibility on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein,
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Speaker 1: Barry Krischer, and the rest of them. That's what happened.
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Speaker 1: You really think that a jury would have given a
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Speaker 1: shit if a kid had a MySpace page talking about
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Speaker 1: drinking and smoking some pot? If they were molested by
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey fucking Epstein? This is the kind of bullshit we've
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Speaker 1: been dealing with since the very beginning of this. Oh, well,
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Speaker 1: these kids are incredible. They smoked some pot, they drank
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Speaker 1: some beers, they talked about sex. Do you forget being
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Speaker 1: a teenager? I did all of that. And I'm sure
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Speaker 1: most of you did too. So does that mean that
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Speaker 1: they couldn't have been abused by Jeffrey Epstein? Does that
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Speaker 1: mean that they had a credibility problem? Well, maybe if
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Speaker 1: it was one person, but what about 40? What about 50?
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Speaker 1: So today we have an article from the New York
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Speaker 1: Post and the headline, Jeffrey Epstein accusers had credibility challenges,
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Speaker 1: including past arrests, changing stories, DOJ memos detail. And we've
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Speaker 1: talked about this countless times. We didn't need the memos
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Speaker 1: for this. It's no secret that they destroyed their own
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Speaker 1: case and their own witnesses, and they only brought one
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Speaker 1: girl up. Now, they'll tell you it's because they had
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Speaker 1: credibility issues, but that's not really true. Furthermore, does Glenn
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Speaker 1: Maxwell have credibility issues? She sure got some favorable treatment, huh?
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Speaker 1: How about Sammy the Bull Gravano? Or how about Whitey Bulger?
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Speaker 1: Give me a break, okay? They think you're stupid. That's
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Speaker 1: what it comes down to. And of course it gives
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Speaker 1: ammunition to the people that are running cover for the cover-up.
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Speaker 1: And there's plenty of them out there. This article was
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Speaker 1: authored by Samuel Chamberlain and Josh Christensen. South Florida prosecutors
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Speaker 1: pitched the 60-count indictment of Jeffrey Epstein on charges, including
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Speaker 1: child prostitution and sex trafficking in the late 2000s, but
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Speaker 1: fretted that their case would be undone by some of
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Speaker 1: the pedophiles' alleged victims, according to newly released files. Well,
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Speaker 1: the OIG report says that CEOs, the child exploitation unit,
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Speaker 1: was completely on board and wanted to go forward. And
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Speaker 1: everything was on track to do so until Mukasey and
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Speaker 1: Philippe got involved from Maine Justice. And of course, that
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Speaker 1: came after a lot of pressure that was put on
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Speaker 1: them by Epstein's legal team. So it wasn't like, you know,
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Speaker 1: there was this gigantic push for this case to go away.
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Speaker 1: In fact, they thought they had enough. And that's basically
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Speaker 1: all the line prosecutors. It was the bosses, the brass,
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Speaker 1: that killed it. The Justice Department made public 20 additional
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Speaker 1: documents related to the disgraced financier Thursday evening, including, for
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Speaker 1: the first time, memos laying out the aborted Sunshine State
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Speaker 1: case against Epstein, who died in his Manhattan jail cell
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Speaker 1: in August of 2019, while awaiting trial on separate sex
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Speaker 1: trafficking charges. Yeah, but the first time around, they weren't credible, right?
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Speaker 1: The second time, though, very credible. The idiocy here is
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Speaker 1: just almost unbelievable, and it's wild that they believe that
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Speaker 1: anyone is going to believe this. As we said a
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Speaker 1: week ago, the Department of Justice reviewed public allegations that
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Speaker 1: Form 302 Interview Summary, documents originally produced to Glaine Maxwell
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Speaker 1: and Discovery of her criminal case were missing from the EFTA,
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Speaker 1: Epstein Files Transparency Act Library, the DOJ posted on X,
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Speaker 1: What we found through extensive review is that a published
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Speaker 1: interview summary, additionally disclosed in a published spreadsheet, had a
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Speaker 1: subsequent document that were coded as duplicative. The DOJ also said,
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Speaker 1: After this was brought to our attention, we reviewed the
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Speaker 1: entire batch with similar coding and discovered 15 documents were
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Speaker 1: incorrectly coded as duplicative. Under normal circumstances, I might give
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Speaker 1: you the benefit of the doubt. But here, I do not.
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Speaker 1: I think you're lying, and I think everything you're saying
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Speaker 1: is BS. Five more documents were prosecution memos, three of
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Speaker 1: which were drafted by the office of then-South Florida U.S.
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Speaker 1: Attorney Alex Acosta. Those memos reveal that prosecutors suggested taking
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Speaker 1: Epstein into custody as early as May 2007 and seeking
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Speaker 1: the seizure of his Palm Beach, Florida home and two
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Speaker 1: private jets, until Epstein's lawyers started controlling the situation. Have
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Speaker 1: you not been paying attention? That's what happened. Epstein's lawyers
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Speaker 1: got to justice, the brass, and started, you know, pulling levers.
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Speaker 1: That's why he hired the people he did. What, you
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Speaker 1: think Ken Starr was just out of the blue? Alan
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Speaker 1: Dershowitz just out of the blue? Lefkowitz out of the blue?
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Speaker 1: Menchel out of the blue? Lily Sanchez out of the blue?
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Speaker 1: Bruce Reinhardt out of the blue? Come on. All these
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Speaker 1: people were working on the case. And then they flipped
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Speaker 1: sides to start working for Epstein. Nothing to see here though.
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Speaker 1: No big deal. However, the documents also outlined the lines
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Speaker 1: of attack that could be used by Epstein's all-star legal
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Speaker 1: team to place reasonable doubt in the minds of a
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Speaker 1: potential jury. That is such BS. Can you imagine sitting
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Speaker 1: on a jury and them trying to pitch that to you?
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Speaker 1: and then the prosecution bringing eight, ten girls up to
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Speaker 1: tell you their story, which way are you going to
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Speaker 1: lean as a juror? The whole thing is BS, and
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Speaker 1: that's why it makes me so goddamn mad. Top of
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Speaker 1: the list potential weaknesses was the girl whose parents initially
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Speaker 1: flagged Epstein's proclivities to the Palm Beach Police Department in 2005.
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Speaker 1: Get ready for this. Copies of a MySpace page credited
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Speaker 1: to Redacted were provided to the state attorney's office and
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Speaker 1: to our office. reads the possible credibility challenges section from
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Speaker 1: a February 2008 version of the prosecuting memo. On that page,
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Speaker 1: Redacted states that she's 21 years old, she drinks, and
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Speaker 1: has taken drugs, she shoplifts, and she earns $ 250, 000 a year.
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Speaker 1: The MySpace page also shows a picture of Redacted wrestling
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Speaker 1: with her boyfriend and a photograph of a naked girl
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Speaker 1: lying on a beach. During her first session with the police,
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Speaker 1: she also minimized what happened with Epstein denying that he
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Speaker 1: touched her. She was scared. How about the second interview?
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Speaker 1: Or the third one that we went through? You see,
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Speaker 1: they can't fool us. We've actually read the interviews. So
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Speaker 1: they can try and spin it however they want. But
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Speaker 1: I've given it to you, uncut, unadulterated, so that when
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Speaker 1: they try their bullshit... you see it for what it is.
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Speaker 1: The memo then sought to address each of those concerns,
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Speaker 1: noting that the accuser denied the MySpace page was hers,
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Speaker 1: a claim investigators could neither confirm or refute, and adding
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Speaker 1: that prosecutors had secured two experts to testify that sex-abused
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Speaker 1: victims minimize what happened to them until they feel more
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Speaker 1: secure about the interviewer. Well, that's pretty obvious. And we
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Speaker 1: can see Jane Doe warm up to Michelle Pagan as
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Speaker 1: she's talking to her in the interview. Another accuser was
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Speaker 1: flagged for having brought several girls to Epstein's home, knowing
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Speaker 1: that they were underage, and she has been given immunity
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Speaker 1: for her testimony, though prosecutors caveated that she is very
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Speaker 1: straightforward about Epstein's actions and her own, and that members
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Speaker 1: of the federal grand jury had seemed to believe her.
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Speaker 1: I think they're talking about Haley Robson here, and her
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Speaker 1: behavior and her activities while in Epstein's clutches. Now, there's
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Speaker 1: a bunch of dickheads out there that'll try and tell
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Speaker 1: you that Haley Robson is some kind of gigantic human trafficker.
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Speaker 1: But let's remember that she fell into Epstein's clutches when
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Speaker 1: she was 16. And not only that, she spoke with
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Speaker 1: the police. Not like she was hiding. She wasn't pulling
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Speaker 1: a Nadia Marcinkova. She didn't pull a Leslie Groff or
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Speaker 1: a Sarah Kellen Vickers. She talked to the police. Maybe
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Speaker 1: somebody should let Anna Paulina Luna know that when she's
21:32
Speaker 1: done with her interdimensional demons or whatever the fuck she's
21:35
Speaker 1: up to. A third was mentioned as a credibility risk
21:39
Speaker 1: after an arrest while a juvenile for marijuana possession and shoplifting,
21:44
Speaker 1: while concerns were raised about a fourth accuser over an
21:47
Speaker 1: arrest on drug charges and her dismissal from a retail
21:50
Speaker 1: job at Victoria's Secret for theft. So those are the
21:54
Speaker 1: credibility issues. As a juror, would any of that matter
21:57
Speaker 1: to you? If all the evidence was overwhelming, you had
22:02
Speaker 1: the massage pads, I mean the message pads, You had
22:05
Speaker 1: all the corroborating evidence. You had all the circumstantial stuff
22:08
Speaker 1: we've seen. Would that really matter to you? It wouldn't
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Speaker 1: to me. Because guess what? Even if those girls were
22:14
Speaker 1: doing drugs and having sex and all the rest of it, shoplifting,
22:18
Speaker 1: they can still be abused. They can still be taken
22:21
Speaker 1: advantage of. So stop the bullshit. Follow the evidence wherever
22:27
Speaker 1: it goes. The same accuser admittedly has used drugs since
22:31
Speaker 1: becoming involved with Epstein, but she seems to have finished
22:34
Speaker 1: that phase of her life. Prosecutors also noted that her
22:38
Speaker 1: allegations were backed up by phone and financial records, indicating
22:42
Speaker 1: Epstein paid her between $ 300 and $ 1, 000 for sexual favors.
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Speaker 1: Ever think she was using drugs because Epstein was abusing her?
22:52
Speaker 1: That might have something to do with it, right? I mean,
22:54
Speaker 1: you know, correlation and all. In a February 2008 memo,
22:59
Speaker 1: prosecutors noted that a fifth victim had given testimony to
23:03
Speaker 1: a state grand jury during which she exhibited no hostility
23:06
Speaker 1: towards Epstein and said that she testified only because she
23:10
Speaker 1: was subpoenaed to appear. Well, did you ever think that
23:13
Speaker 1: Epstein got to her, reached out to her, paid her,
23:16
Speaker 1: threatened her, threatened her family? Holy shit, man. Her statements
23:21
Speaker 1: are well corroborated by the telephone records, etc., prosecutors said
23:25
Speaker 1: of this accuser. But as with the other girls, her
23:28
Speaker 1: past is not pristine. If she's underage, it doesn't matter.
23:31
Speaker 1: There's no coercion. Once someone's underage, that's it. You cannot
23:35
Speaker 1: have relations with her, stupid. You can't traffic her, stupid.
23:39
Speaker 1: You can't coerce her, stupid. Protective orders in the Southern
23:44
Speaker 1: District of New York and Southern District of Florida had
23:46
Speaker 1: initially prohibited the release of grand jury material in the
23:50
Speaker 1: Epstein and Maxwell cases, a senior DOJ official told the
23:53
Speaker 1: Post on Thursday. Appearing before the House Oversight Committee in
23:58
Speaker 1: September of 2025, Acosta told lawmakers that securing a guilty
24:02
Speaker 1: verdict against Epstein would have been a crapshoot. Borrowing the
24:06
Speaker 1: characterization of the case from an officer in the Justice
24:09
Speaker 1: Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity section who worked briefly on
24:14
Speaker 1: the case. That's not true. We know that CEOS was
24:19
Speaker 1: completely on board. Just go back and read the OIG report.
24:23
Speaker 1: And again, that's why we do it. What, you think
24:25
Speaker 1: I have fun reading all those court documents? Not exactly
24:28
Speaker 1: the greatest time in the world, but it's necessary. And
24:32
Speaker 1: I think it's important that all of you know what's
24:35
Speaker 1: going on and not from these people telling you directly
24:39
Speaker 1: from the source. That's how you form a real opinion, right? Ultimately,
24:43
Speaker 1: we just wanted the guy to go to jail. He
24:45
Speaker 1: said of a much derided June 2008 non-prosecution agreement that
24:49
Speaker 1: saw Epstein serve fewer than 13 months on a state
24:52
Speaker 1: charge of soliciting sex from a minor. with much of
24:55
Speaker 1: that time spent on work release. Very fair deal. Very fair.
25:00
Speaker 1: The kind of deal everybody gets, right? Certainly not the
25:03
Speaker 1: deal my family member got. Launched his ass to prison
25:07
Speaker 1: for over six years for illegal gambling. But cool, Jeffrey Epstein,
25:12
Speaker 1: 13 months, gets to go out, do whatever he wants,
25:15
Speaker 1: and continue to abuse people while he's under the custody
25:18
Speaker 1: of the state. Hell of a job, guys. Hell of
25:21
Speaker 1: a job. Tell us about credibility issues some more, though.
25:24
Speaker 1: Many victims refused to testify. Many victims had changing stories.
25:28
Speaker 1: All of us understood why they had changing stories, but
25:31
Speaker 1: they did. And defense counsel would have, cross-examination, would have
25:35
Speaker 1: been withering, Acosta added. Many of them had issues in
25:38
Speaker 1: their background. They had the MySpace pages. They had priors
25:41
Speaker 1: that would have been used against them by defense counsel.
25:44
Speaker 1: And that was at a time when, in all candor,
25:47
Speaker 1: defense could be much, much tougher on victims on the stand,
25:51
Speaker 1: said the former U.S. attorney. who added that he considered
25:54
Speaker 1: the tactics used by Epstein's legal team, which included famed
25:57
Speaker 1: advocate Alan Dershowitz and former independent counsel Kenneth Starr, skirted
26:02
Speaker 1: the line of professional misconduct. Not skirted the line. They
26:06
Speaker 1: crossed the line many, many times. And Alex Acosta didn't
26:09
Speaker 1: have the courage to stare them down. Instead, he acquiesced
26:13
Speaker 1: to everything that they demanded. And when he didn't acquiesce
26:17
Speaker 1: to one of their requests, they just went over his head.
26:21
Speaker 1: With the non-prosecution agreement, Acosta said, we put him in jail.
26:25
Speaker 1: He registered as a sex offender and the victims had
26:27
Speaker 1: an opportunity to recover. And that was a win. Not true.
26:30
Speaker 1: You put him in jail. He kept abusing. Victims had
26:33
Speaker 1: a chance to recover. Which ones? Point them out. Everybody
26:36
Speaker 1: likes to say victims this, survivors that. Which ones? They're
26:40
Speaker 1: not monolithic. These are all different people with unique stories
26:45
Speaker 1: of abuse that they suffered at the hands of Jeffrey
26:47
Speaker 1: Epstein and his friends. It's not monolithic. Looking at all
26:53
Speaker 1: of this, the ultimate judgment was, do you roll the dice?
26:56
Speaker 1: And if he gets away with it, you're sending a
26:58
Speaker 1: signal to the community that he can get away with it.
27:01
Speaker 1: Such bullshit. You sent that signal to the community by
27:04
Speaker 1: not going hard. That was the signal you sent? Don't
27:10
Speaker 1: give us this BS you were scared to go after
27:12
Speaker 1: him at trial. Federal prosecutors pursue shit all the time
27:17
Speaker 1: that's way weaker than this. It wasn't you didn't have
27:21
Speaker 1: the evidence, you didn't have the courage. That's what it was.
27:25
Speaker 1: A senior DOJ official told reporters that roughly 60,000 documents
27:29
Speaker 1: had been pulled from the Epstein Library and placed back
27:32
Speaker 1: under review to ensure proper redactions of victim images or
27:36
Speaker 1: pornographic material. More than 3.5 million pages of documents have
27:40
Speaker 1: been reviewed by DOJ employees and placed on the library's
27:44
Speaker 1: webpage since President Trump signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act
27:48
Speaker 1: into law last November. Yo, there's no such thing as
27:51
Speaker 1: a perfect victim. All kinds of people can be victimized.
27:56
Speaker 1: Even people that have a checkered past. And that doesn't
27:58
Speaker 1: make them liars. That doesn't mean we shouldn't believe them.
28:02
Speaker 1: What we should do is look at all the evidence
28:04
Speaker 1: provided and go from there. But they just skipped all
28:07
Speaker 1: of that and instead decided that it wasn't worth pursuing
28:11
Speaker 1: in federal court and they just kicked it back down
28:14
Speaker 1: to state. Because, you know, that's what the federal government
28:16
Speaker 1: always does. So they can talk about credibility issues all
28:19
Speaker 1: they want. But the only credibility issue I see here
28:23
Speaker 1: isn't with the witnesses. It's with the DOJ itself. All
28:28
Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
28:31
Speaker 1: in the description box. Everyone and welcome back to the
28:34
Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Hope everybody's having a great Saturday morning out there.
28:39
Speaker 1: And hopefully the rest of your weekend is even better. Today,
28:44
Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit more about Ghislaine
28:46
Speaker 1: Maxwell and the new court filings that her and her
28:51
Speaker 1: team are trying to keep under wraps. Now, we all
28:55
Speaker 1: know the situation with juror number 50 at this point,
28:59
Speaker 1: and we all know that Team Maxwell is pushing hard
29:03
Speaker 1: for a mistrial. Now, to go along with all of that,
29:07
Speaker 1: they have these new filings that they want to keep
29:11
Speaker 1: under seal because, according to them, they don't want juror
29:15
Speaker 1: number 50 to get any information that he might not have, right?
29:20
Speaker 1: They want to make sure that they're not making it
29:22
Speaker 1: easy for him if in the event he gets prosecuted
29:25
Speaker 1: or what have you. Now, the prosecutors, on the flip
29:30
Speaker 1: side of that, they're calling for transparency, right? which is
29:34
Speaker 1: crazy considering the federal government doesn't even know how to
29:37
Speaker 1: spell transparency usually but at least in this case the
29:40
Speaker 1: prosecutors are saying no we don't want this stuff under
29:43
Speaker 1: seal and they're challenging the filings by the defense so
29:50
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to judge nathan making a
29:52
Speaker 1: ruling on what's going to be sealed what's not going
29:55
Speaker 1: to be sealed and what's going to be for public
29:58
Speaker 1: consumption Now, you all know where I stand on this.
30:02
Speaker 1: I think everything should be for public consumption. Anything that
30:05
Speaker 1: has been put to rest, if you will, court documents
30:10
Speaker 1: about Jeffrey Epstein or people who might be dead or arrested, whatever,
30:14
Speaker 1: all of that stuff should be public knowledge. It should
30:17
Speaker 1: be open for the public to consume. And there should
30:20
Speaker 1: be no transparency whatsoever when it comes to the Jeffrey
30:24
Speaker 1: Epstein criminal enterprise. Unless, of course, that We're keeping, you know,
30:30
Speaker 1: under wraps the name of people who were abused. Then,
30:33
Speaker 1: of course, you don't want that stuff out there. I'm
30:36
Speaker 1: talking about information about those who were involved in the crimes.
30:41
Speaker 1: There should be no blanket of secrecy. There should be
30:44
Speaker 1: no trans. There should be no protection. It should be
30:48
Speaker 1: all transparent. Right. Once these people are outed, once, you know,
30:52
Speaker 1: this case hits the court, I don't want to hear about, oh,
30:55
Speaker 1: let's keep this under wraps anymore. Enough of that. This
30:58
Speaker 1: is not a national security issue. We don't have Boris
31:01
Speaker 1: over here from whatever the new version of the security
31:07
Speaker 1: services in Russia trying to figure out what's up with
31:09
Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell. This is CYA type shit... When they keep
31:15
Speaker 1: things sealed... As far as the federal government... Like their
31:17
Speaker 1: investigation into what happened... Into Jeffrey Epstein's death in the jailhouse...
31:23
Speaker 1: It's not because it's national security... It's because they don't
31:25
Speaker 1: want to have egg on their face... And they know
31:27
Speaker 1: they dropped the ball... And we've experienced that... So much here...
31:33
Speaker 1: In the Jeffrey Epstein case... And the investigation into what happened...
31:37
Speaker 1: It has been a brick wall basically... When you're looking
31:40
Speaker 1: for information... And it has to do with Jeffrey Epstein's death.
31:44
Speaker 1: Forget about it. But it's just been the way this
31:47
Speaker 1: case has been conducted from the very beginning. So much secrecy.
31:53
Speaker 1: People who should be outed not being outed. And somehow
31:56
Speaker 1: these people, the so-called elite, continue to be protected. Thankfully,
32:02
Speaker 1: that's starting to change and more people have had enough.
32:05
Speaker 1: More people like you out there are not buying the
32:08
Speaker 1: bullshit line that's being fed to them. And that's a
32:11
Speaker 1: good thing because there is a massive awakening going on.
32:14
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about any nonsense about, you know,
32:17
Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory or that. I'm talking about, in general,
32:21
Speaker 1: amongst people around the world, waking up and understanding that
32:25
Speaker 1: the circumstances that we find ourselves in are not good.
32:29
Speaker 1: And when you have people like Jeffrey Epstein and the
32:32
Speaker 1: people protecting him at the very highest levers of control,
32:38
Speaker 1: it's never going to work out well for the rest
32:40
Speaker 1: of us. So if we can't come together and rally
32:44
Speaker 1: to stand up to people like Jeffrey Epstein and human traffickers,
32:48
Speaker 1: then I don't know what sort of common ground we
32:50
Speaker 1: can find. One thing I will say, though, is throughout
32:54
Speaker 1: this whole entire time I've been researching this case, there
32:58
Speaker 1: have been people from all walks of the political spectrum
33:03
Speaker 1: who have come together and dropped all of their political
33:06
Speaker 1: BS beefs to work to try and bring justice here.
33:10
Speaker 1: And I think that's the proper way forward, right? Common ground.
33:13
Speaker 1: I mean, if we can't find common ground going after
33:15
Speaker 1: people like Epstein, I don't even know what to say.
33:18
Speaker 1: But thankfully, most people who are interested in this case
33:22
Speaker 1: have only one goal in mind, and that is bringing
33:25
Speaker 1: the people who are responsible for these heinous crimes to justice.
33:31
Speaker 1: All right, so we have an article today from Bloomberg. Headline,
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Speaker 1: Maxwell prosecutors oppose keeping keeping new trial request under seal.
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Speaker 1: This article was authored by Patricia Hurtado. Glenn Maxwell's prosecutor
33:48
Speaker 1: said her request for a new trial based on a
33:50
Speaker 1: juror's disclosure that he was the victim of childhood sexual
33:54
Speaker 1: abuse should be public. A hundred percent. Like I just
33:58
Speaker 1: said in the monologue there. I honestly, I don't believe
34:01
Speaker 1: that anything should be under seal at this point, unless
34:04
Speaker 1: it has to do with privacy for the survivors. If
34:07
Speaker 1: you're named as somebody in this case, a person of interest,
34:10
Speaker 1: somebody who was hanging around Epstein, sorry to say, but
34:14
Speaker 1: any kind of privacy that you should be entitled to
34:17
Speaker 1: is out the window. Last month, the British socialite, you
34:22
Speaker 1: mean human trafficker, Patricia Hurtado, that's what she is, a
34:25
Speaker 1: convicted felon, not a socialite, former socialite, Do we call,
34:30
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Manson a former construction worker or whatever
34:34
Speaker 1: the hell he did before he killed people or sent
34:36
Speaker 1: people off to kill people? Do we call John Wayne
34:39
Speaker 1: Gacy the engaging, loving clown? No, of course not. Call
34:43
Speaker 1: him a murderer, a serial killer, a sick fuck, just
34:46
Speaker 1: like Ghislaine Maxwell. filed the request under seal with her lawyer,
34:54
Speaker 1: Christian Everdell, arguing on Tuesday that public disclosure would provide
34:58
Speaker 1: a roadmap for the juror and give him an improper
35:01
Speaker 1: preview of information he shouldn't have. Maxwell's jury was anonymous
35:05
Speaker 1: and the man was only known as juror 50 during
35:09
Speaker 1: the trial. So again, what they're saying is their reasoning
35:13
Speaker 1: for trying to keep this under seal is that it
35:16
Speaker 1: would give juror number 50, Scotty David, kind of an
35:19
Speaker 1: idea of what's going on here. And they don't want
35:22
Speaker 1: that to happen, right? They don't want him to be prepared.
35:25
Speaker 1: They don't want his lawyer, Todd Spodek, to be prepared.
35:28
Speaker 1: So they're trying to keep it under seal and under
35:30
Speaker 1: wraps for as long as possible. Prosecutor Maureen Comey on
35:37
Speaker 1: Friday rejected Maxwell's claims as unfounded, arguing that there was
35:42
Speaker 1: no reason for the filings to remain sealed because the
35:44
Speaker 1: material was already made public by the juror when he
35:48
Speaker 1: spoke with the media. Makes sense, right? Dude spoke to
35:51
Speaker 1: the media, gave up the information already. What are you
35:54
Speaker 1: talking about under seal? What's the deal with all of
35:57
Speaker 1: this sealed nonsense? Now, obviously, if you're Ghislaine Maxwell and
36:01
Speaker 1: her team, I could see why they'd want to keep
36:04
Speaker 1: everything sealed. They know that it's a bad look for
36:07
Speaker 1: them no matter what happens. Maybe not in this instance
36:10
Speaker 1: so much, but as far as documentation throughout this whole thing,
36:15
Speaker 1: they knew that it would cast a bad light on
36:18
Speaker 1: their clients. So that's why Ghislaine Maxwell and her team
36:21
Speaker 1: fought so hard to keep those documents from the original
36:24
Speaker 1: deposition out of the public light. Thankfully, Judge Preska wasn't
36:29
Speaker 1: having it, and she released a bunch of those documents,
36:33
Speaker 1: and still more are on the way. But if it
36:35
Speaker 1: was up to Ghislaine Maxwell and her team, everything would
36:38
Speaker 1: have been kept in the dark forever. There can be
36:43
Speaker 1: no need to hide from public view a discussion of
36:45
Speaker 1: public materials, Comey said. The defense's suggestion that her defense
36:50
Speaker 1: briefing contains information from some significant investigation into Juror 50
36:55
Speaker 1: is not accurate. The motion does not contain any significant
36:58
Speaker 1: material that is not otherwise public. So, that's Maureen Comey
37:03
Speaker 1: pretty much poo-pooing the idea. Telling the court, look, we
37:07
Speaker 1: don't need this to be sealed. We don't need this
37:10
Speaker 1: to be kept under wraps. There's nothing in there that
37:13
Speaker 1: would be considered detrimental. So in our opinion, meaning the
37:19
Speaker 1: prosecution's opinion, we don't want this documentation sealed, which is
37:23
Speaker 1: kind of funny considering Maureen Comey and friends usually love
37:27
Speaker 1: to seal shit. Several media organizations have also urged U.S.
37:33
Speaker 1: District Judge Allison Nathan to unseal the proceedings. Maxwell, who
37:38
Speaker 1: was convicted in December of enticing, grooming, and sexually abusing
37:42
Speaker 1: underage girls with her former boyfriend, Jeffrey Epstein. Again, you
37:46
Speaker 1: say right here in this article, Mr. Toto, that she
37:49
Speaker 1: was convicted of enticing, grooming, and sexually abusing underage girls,
37:54
Speaker 1: but you still call her a socialite at the beginning? Okay,
37:57
Speaker 1: makes sense. with her former boyfriend, you mean co-conspirator, fellow
38:01
Speaker 1: child abuser, Jeffrey Epstein, that's what you mean, right? Not
38:04
Speaker 1: her boyfriend, requested a new trial after the juror told
38:08
Speaker 1: several media outlets that his revelation of past sexual abuse
38:12
Speaker 1: helps sway other jurors to convict. And again, that's what
38:17
Speaker 1: his statement is, right? That's the way he sees things. Now,
38:21
Speaker 1: I wonder if the other jurors see things quite that way.
38:24
Speaker 1: Do they feel like they were swayed by Scotty David,
38:27
Speaker 1: or is this another example of Scotty David wanting to
38:31
Speaker 1: be the hero of the story? While prospective jurors were
38:35
Speaker 1: asked whether they had been victims of sexual abuse, the juror,
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Speaker 1: who identified himself as Scotty David, his first and middle names,
38:43
Speaker 1: told Reuters that he flew through the jury questionnaire, and again,
38:47
Speaker 1: Just a public service announcement. If you're ever doing jury
38:51
Speaker 1: duty or you're called to sit in and, you know,
38:54
Speaker 1: be part of a jury, probably a good idea to
38:57
Speaker 1: answer all of the questions truthfully. Probably a good idea
39:00
Speaker 1: not to fly through the questionnaire like you're taking a
39:04
Speaker 1: ninth grade math test. Abba dabba the whole way through
39:07
Speaker 1: on your, you know, it's just it's ridiculous. Pay attention.
39:12
Speaker 1: Do the right thing and don't try and insert yourself
39:15
Speaker 1: in the story. I just don't understand that whole entire mentality.
39:18
Speaker 1: These people that want to be the story. What you're
39:21
Speaker 1: doing is making things much more difficult on these survivors.
39:26
Speaker 1: If this moron had never came out and spoke all
39:29
Speaker 1: this nonsense. to the media, just kept his mouth shut
39:32
Speaker 1: and didn't insert himself, we wouldn't even be talking about
39:35
Speaker 1: this right now. We'd be talking about sentencing, you know,
39:38
Speaker 1: all of the good stuff that comes after a conviction
39:41
Speaker 1: of an animal like Maxwell. But no, juror number 50,
39:45
Speaker 1: Scotty David, decided he'd come out, run his fat yap,
39:49
Speaker 1: and now here we are. So hopefully, all of this
39:53
Speaker 1: stuff that they're talking about remains unsealed and ready for
39:57
Speaker 1: public consumption. Because nobody trusts anything that's going on, right?
40:04
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hear about, oh, well, this is under seal,
40:07
Speaker 1: or the public can't consume this. Everyone's had a belly
40:10
Speaker 1: full of that. And it's time for the federal government, especially,
40:16
Speaker 1: to just be correct when it comes to Maxwell and Epstein.
40:22
Speaker 1: Unseal all the documentation that should be unsealed. Everything that
40:27
Speaker 1: pertains to the case. Because nobody trusts the official narrative
40:31
Speaker 1: from Jeffrey Epstein being killed or dying in prison or jail,
40:36
Speaker 1: I mean, to Epstein being protected by people in intelligence services.
40:42
Speaker 1: Nobody trusts the institutions anymore. And that is the one
40:46
Speaker 1: thing that everybody seems to agree on. He also said
40:50
Speaker 1: he didn't remember such a question, but would have answered
40:53
Speaker 1: honestly if asked. Prosecutors have asked the judge to question
40:57
Speaker 1: the juror, but Nathan hasn't ruled on the request. So again,
41:01
Speaker 1: we're really waiting on Judge Nathan, right? That's what it
41:03
Speaker 1: all comes down to. She's going to make the decision.
41:05
Speaker 1: She's going to decide if this goes to more of
41:09
Speaker 1: an investigation, if there is a mistrial or whatever it
41:13
Speaker 1: might be. It all is going to rest on what
41:17
Speaker 1: Judge Nathan eventually decides. So we can speculate until that
41:22
Speaker 1: day comes, right? But we don't know what's going on
41:24
Speaker 1: in her head. We don't know which way she's going
41:26
Speaker 1: to land. Hopefully it's on the side of transparency and
41:31
Speaker 1: all of this stuff remains unsealed. But we all know
41:34
Speaker 1: how it works, right? We all know the deal with
41:37
Speaker 1: this kind of thing and how the federal government conducts itself.
41:42
Speaker 1: They will say that there's an active investigation when you
41:45
Speaker 1: try and get information about insert situation here. You know
41:50
Speaker 1: how many times people ran into that trying to get
41:52
Speaker 1: Freedom of Information Acts as far as Jeffrey Epstein's death?
41:57
Speaker 1: What they'll say is, well, this is an ongoing and
41:59
Speaker 1: active investigation, so we can't release any of this information
42:03
Speaker 1: to you. And that is how the government gets by, right?
42:07
Speaker 1: When you file a Freedom of Information Act, all they
42:09
Speaker 1: have to say is, oh, this is an active investigation,
42:12
Speaker 1: can't help you. And we see that so often with
42:15
Speaker 1: the federal government. And we have seen that a lot
42:18
Speaker 1: with the Jeffrey Epstein case, for sure, especially after this
42:22
Speaker 1: dude's death. Now, as far as Maxwell and the situation here, again,
42:27
Speaker 1: I don't really know how this is going to end up.
42:30
Speaker 1: I don't know if Maxwell is going to get a mistrial.
42:32
Speaker 1: I don't know. Right. I'm just being honest with you, folks.
42:34
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say, oh, she's
42:36
Speaker 1: not she's not going to get a mistrial. This is
42:38
Speaker 1: over and done with because we don't know. My feeling
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Speaker 1: is that Judge Nathan isn't going to find enough here.
42:45
Speaker 1: I feel that Judge Nathan will eventually take a look
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Speaker 1: at all of this. And I believe that the conviction
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Speaker 1: will stand. Now, we can argue until the cows come
42:57
Speaker 1: home about Scotty David and his conversation, right? Was it improper?
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Speaker 1: Wasn't it improper? And there's a lot to argue there.
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Speaker 1: Do I think that he should... be talking to the
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Speaker 1: media after a verdict such as this? No, probably not.
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Speaker 1: But that said, the stipulations didn't state that they weren't
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Speaker 1: allowed to speak to the media. So, you know, you
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Speaker 1: can't really blame him there. But for me, it certainly
43:30
Speaker 1: looks like he was less than truthful, right? And if
43:34
Speaker 1: that's the case, then he's an absolute clown. That's really
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Speaker 1: what it comes down to. If you're lying on the
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Speaker 1: jury questionnaire, you're lying to get on the jury because
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Speaker 1: you have an ax to grind or something like that,
43:47
Speaker 1: and it can end up leading to the situation we're
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Speaker 1: in now, then yeah, you're a clown, okay? But I'm
43:57
Speaker 1: very interested to see which way this ends up as
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Speaker 1: far as from a transparency perspective. Because it could tell
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Speaker 1: the tale moving forward as far as what we're going
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Speaker 1: to see unsealed and what we're going to see kept
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Speaker 1: under wraps. And personally, I want everything dumped. And when
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Speaker 1: Judge Preska was releasing all of those documents, it was very,
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Speaker 1: very helpful to the investigation, to the research, because you
44:24
Speaker 1: can go and cross-reference things now, right? It's one thing
44:27
Speaker 1: to hear a report source says. It's a whole nother thing.
44:30
Speaker 1: When that same exact information is in court filings, right?
44:34
Speaker 1: It brings a lot more weight to it. Someone can
44:37
Speaker 1: say whatever they want. But when you say something under
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Speaker 1: oath and it's in court documentation, it brings a whole
44:43
Speaker 1: different feel to it. Because now you have the threat
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Speaker 1: of perjury hanging over your head. So if you're not truthful,
44:50
Speaker 1: the federal government has the in to really make your
44:54
Speaker 1: life miserable and hell. And believe me, they love to
44:57
Speaker 1: do it. Whenever you're sitting down with the FBI and
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Speaker 1: they're doing one of their 302s, oh, they love to
45:03
Speaker 1: walk people into perjury traps. So it's going to be
45:07
Speaker 1: interesting moving forward to see how this transparency situation breaks
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Speaker 1: down here and to see what Judge Nathan decides. I'm
45:17
Speaker 1: leaning towards no mistrial. I'm leaning towards this conviction standing.
45:22
Speaker 1: But that said, Maxwell's definitely going to appeal one way
45:25
Speaker 1: or the other. And then this case will get bumped
45:28
Speaker 1: up to the appeals court and they'll have a look
45:30
Speaker 1: and they'll have a say. The one thing that Maxwell
45:34
Speaker 1: can't be too happy about, however, is that the same
45:36
Speaker 1: appeals court that's going to get a look at this. Well,
45:39
Speaker 1: Judge Nathan is going to be sitting on that appeals
45:41
Speaker 1: court soon. So she's going to know the case in
45:44
Speaker 1: and out. And I'm sure her colleagues will rely on her,
45:49
Speaker 1: you know, adjudication of this case. to get information from
45:53
Speaker 1: her clerks or whatever it might be so they have
45:56
Speaker 1: a full, robust idea about what happened. Maxwell and her
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Speaker 1: chances moving forward? I don't think they're very good, folks.
46:06
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I can't see Ghislaine
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Speaker 1: Maxwell ever getting out of jail. I think she's going
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Speaker 1: to serve this whole sentence... And at her age, with
46:16
Speaker 1: the years she's facing, looks like bologna sandwiches and jailhouse
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Speaker 1: quesadillas are on the menu for the rest of her life.
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Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's going to do it for this
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Speaker 1: morning's episode. I'll be back later on today at some
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Speaker 1: point with some more. But until then, there's some context
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